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18 May 2019 13:07:15
Thoughts on this deal


Ott receives: lucid, 2019 1st (8th ovl)

Edmonton receives: pageau, 2019 3rd (pitts)

This frees up 3m in cap space, and brings in a 3rd line shut down center with great pk ability that's only 26yrs old. You keep rnh on the wing and get a 3rd that you could flip (for for connor. brown maybe)

Ottawa upgrades a 3rd rounder to a top 10 pick and uses their cap space to keep building. By the time ottawa is relevant again the 6m cap hit might be gone or the cap has gone up enough for it to be negligible.


Thoughts on this, should there be an added sweetener somewhere?

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18 May 2019 19:58:16
this is the right kind of move for the senators but they probably could get an extra mid round pick or two (or just remove the 3rd fron their side)

18 May 2019 20:48:42
Almost. but EDM receives pageau and ott 1rd round 2019 and EDM add a 2nd round and and 4th round pick to get rid of Lucic, no way do they lose their first round pick this year.

19 May 2019 00:29:39
nobody wants lucic, I don't think many teams will bite even if the 8th overall is included. that's a terrible player on a terrible contract, that's Edmontons problem.

19 May 2019 20:14:36
I think Oilers should take this and run. Fills perfectly their 3c spot and now RNH can stick to McDavid's LW because that guy can't run his own line.

18 May 2019 08:01:15
Who you taking if you had to trade Auston Matthews ?

CGY : Noah Hanifin & Matthew Tkachuk
TOR : Auston Matthews

[ Tkachuk - Tavares - Marner ]
[ Hanifin - Rielly ]

ARI : Clayton Keller & Jakob Chychrun
TOR : Auston Matthews

[ Keller - Tavares - Marner ]
[ Chychrun - Rielly ]

EDM : Darnell Nurse & Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
TOR : Auston Matthews

[ Hyman - Nugent-Hopkins - Nylander ]
[ Nurse - Rielly ]

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18 May 2019 12:52:50
Lol all brutal proposals that make the leafs substantially worse. I’d trade Tavares for the Calgarys offer but definitely not Mathews.

18 May 2019 12:53:39
I can't see the Leafs doing any of these trades.

18 May 2019 14:03:02
God these are all brutal, haha. Especially that last one, we heavily downgrade from Matthews to RNH for Nurse? Cmon, haha.

18 May 2019 15:14:02
I'd do the first one if I was the leafs gm for sure.

19 May 2019 20:11:48
Matthews is a Special Player that is going on 21yrs old.
Players like that are not Traded and if they are it's later on in there career, so any Proposal of Trading Matthews is something that just won't happen.

19 May 2019 20:15:13
Austin Mathews, Nikita Zaitsev and Timothy Lilijgren for Seth Jones, Brandon Dubinsky ( cap ) and Josh Andersson

That’s something I’d do from the leafs POV. I think Columbus considers this also considering there defence is STACKED and Mathews Replaces the production left by Paniran and Duchene.

18 May 2019 07:56:59
Who you taking ?

EDM : Connor McDavid
CGY : Matthew Tkachuk, Sean Monahan & Noah Hanifin

EDM : Connor McDavid
VAN : Brock Boeser, Bo Horvat & Quinn Hughes

EDM : Connor McDavid
TOR : Auston Matthews, Timothy Liljegren & Morgan Rielly

EDM : Connor McDavid
FLA : Vincent Trocheck, Aaron Ekblad & Jonathan Huberdeau


Who you taking if you had to trade McDavid and got these offers.

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18 May 2019 10:31:09
If someone wants mcdavid it is going to cost marner, Matthews plus picks.

18 May 2019 12:53:44
Leafs don’t touch that offer makes them much worse.

18 May 2019 14:04:16
I may be biased, but the best offer is def the Leafs one. And realistically, it may be fair value, bur if Toronto does that it just sets ups back farther becaue of how much we lose in Mo.

18 May 2019 14:29:20
Agree with Topshelf. Trading Morgan Rielly straight up for McDavid would make the leafs a worse team as the defense is already brutal enough. Rielly is probably the leafs most valuable player within the organization.

18 May 2019 15:15:19
Edmonton gets better in each trade.

18 May 2019 17:51:52
No one would trade for McDavid, you’d have to give up half your team to do it so what’s the point?

19 May 2019 20:16:43
id rather just have mcdavid lol goat.

18 May 2019 04:42:21
PIT : Phil Kessel & Olli Maatta
PHI : Travis Konecny & Shayne Gostisphere

PIT : Evgeni Malkin & Brian Dumoulin (50% Salary Retained)
FLA : Vincent Trocheck, Jayce Hawryluk & Michael Matheson

PIT : Erik Gudbranson (cap reasons)
ARI : Lawson Crouse


Jake Guentzel - Sidney Crosby - Travis Konecny

Bryan Rust - Vincent Trocheck - Patric Hornqvist

Jared McCann - Nick Bjugstad - Jayce Hawryluk

Zach Ashton-Reese - Garrett Wilson - Lawson Crouse


Michael Matheson - Kris Letang

Shayne Gostisphere - Justin Schultz

Jack Johnson - Chad Ruthwedel

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18 May 2019 04:39:21
EDM : Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
WPG : Nikolaj Ehlers, 2nd-Round Pick & Ben Chiarot

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18 May 2019 04:48:32
No thanks from Winnipeg. That’s too much to give up for a guy who will be looking for a big raise in two years.

18 May 2019 07:48:31
I don't think Nuge will get a "big raise". Probably Nylander comparable 6.9M @ 4-6YR

18 May 2019 12:55:56
This is a close trade but I believe that Edmonton would want more for RNH.

17 May 2019 23:33:02
brandon Tanev to ottawa for a draft pick.

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18 May 2019 04:51:30
Tanev is UFA, but Ottawa can give us a pick if they want.

18 May 2019 05:21:18
he should get a nice raise this summer.

17 May 2019 20:12:52
I will make suggestion for trade. Edmonton must make trades this summer or we will lose again. Edmonton must trade defense for forward. It is so very obvious.

To Edmonton Kasperi Kapanen
To Toronto Evan Bouchard + Alex Petrovic

Now is good trade for both teams. They are both getting good players they need, yes?

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17 May 2019 20:19:01
No from Edmonton.

17 May 2019 21:49:25
Also pretty sure Petrovic is a UFA.

18 May 2019 10:34:49
Bouchard is oilers best prospect. why in hell would they trade him?

18 May 2019 13:03:27
Bouchard is the best prospect in Edmonton's system and has the potential to be a top pairing d-man in a couple of years. They would be foolish to trade him.

19 May 2019 20:14:19
zamboni, it is not a good trade. no no is not. Yes? no.

19 May 2019 20:19:56
You know a trade truly sucks for the team not named TOR if VB says the other team declines lol.

17 May 2019 17:52:12
New to the feed. Thought o would share a few ideas. Any polite feedback is welcome.
Flames trade ideas:

Jonny G to NJ for First overall (throw in a Dman ie. Brodie if need be). NJ has 2 great young C and no good LW. D is below average.

Monahan to Ottawa for Brady Tkachuck. Ottawa has no C.

Trade Frolik for a second or third or throw in.

Try to move ahead of LA in the draft to get Spencer Knight (G) as I think they will take them with the second 1st.

Figure out a way to move Neal so Dube can slot in next year.

Any thoughts on my ideas?

- Brady T, Huges, Lindholm
-Tkachuck, Backlund, Dube
-Mangiapani, Ryan, Czarnik
-Bennett, Jankowski, Hathaway.

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17 May 2019 18:19:51
I can't see NJ moving 1 OA under any circumstances. Same with Ottawa, I can't see them being willing to move Tkachuk, they're petty much in love with him.

17 May 2019 18:52:28
Big no from flames. Makes no sense for them.

17 May 2019 18:54:38
Brady Tkachuk has only played one season, how does he get you Monahan. c'mon man, and trading Gaudreau for a pick is a gamble and you would want a defencemen? Huge no, when did picks become so overrated. Gaudreau is a proven elite player. Hughes hasn't stepped foot in the nhl yet

17 May 2019 19:10:37
Taylor Hall ring a bell? Lol.

17 May 2019 19:32:43
Frolik is going to be traded to Wild for Zucker at the draft. Is so very true. They did not get the paperwork in time for deadline. It is all but a done deal.

18 May 2019 04:38:32
Zamboni is right. It was a done deal but they ran out of time

19 May 2019 20:12:11
It was supposed to be Frolik AND a 1st for Zucker. Paper work wasn’t done in time. Also no from NJ even if the dman is Rasmus Andersson. No from Ottawa on the 2nd.

19 May 2019 20:15:22
marcus and Sean are both right. marcus is right the sens would not trade tkachuk, but seans got to point neither would the flames. value wise ottawa probably adds.

17 May 2019 16:25:45
winnipeg trades trouba and 2020 first rounder
colorado trades zadorov and 2019 first round pick from ottawa.

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17 May 2019 17:15:47
I don't think Colorado is going to move that pick.

17 May 2019 17:25:37
I don't think the Jets would make this trade as they would want a center with a draft pick and don't want to give up another 1st round pick.

17 May 2019 19:01:24
This trade comes down to a 1st-pairing D-man for, arguably, the worst D-man on the Colorado Snowfalls. Furthermore, the Jets already have a terrible Russian blueliner. How many crummy commies does one team need? Maybe the trade could be made 3-way and the Jets can get Zaitsev, too (then we would have to call our D-corps 'Red-liners')

17 May 2019 19:57:00
Trouba is so very good. I do not think Winnipeg should make this trade. They should keep Trouba. Jets do not want a draft pick. They want to win now. It is so very much a chance to trade such very good player like the Trouba for a draft pick and a much slower and not good defenseman.

17 May 2019 20:24:12
Trouba for a late 1st, roster player for 3rd line and a okay prospect calling it now I’ll say I told you so.

17 May 2019 20:55:03
I don't agree the trade is trouba for zadarov, it is also to move from drafting mid 20s next year to 4 this year. I still don't think Winnipeg does this, but it's not d for d swap.

Maybe if they feel they can get an nhl ready c in the draft.

17 May 2019 22:25:14
I agree with the first Noel.

16 May 2019 12:31:21
Oilers: RnH and 8th overall

Chicago: 3rd overall


Chicago gets a elite Center and a good pick

And oilers gets their future no1 defender (byram)

As a oilers fan i'm all over this trade , what do you guys say? Is it fair/likely?

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16 May 2019 13:29:45
Nuge isn’t an elite center, if he was you wouldn’t give him up to move up 5 spots. I still think Nuge is a big price to pay to move up 5 spots in the draft. I can see Chicago doing it, even if they don’t want to keep Nuge they can flip him.

16 May 2019 14:28:27
Well, I like RNH as well, but to call him Elite is a stretch. by the time Byram is a really good number 1 D, which I think he will be, that's 4 to 5 years away. McDavid needs help now. Better to trade RNH for immediate help I beleive.

16 May 2019 15:05:42
i say this is beyond stupid for oilers and you CLEARLY are not a fan.

16 May 2019 16:16:14
Clearly not a fan? Haha nah i haven't missed a game in 4 year (missed max 20 games since 2010) and got ryan smyth’s portrait tattooed on my leg.

And why would it be bad? Oilers need cap and can move drai to center he's own line and then trade sekera or Russel .

Then they got 10-11,5m extra cap for wingers.

16 May 2019 16:35:59
They got toews and strome 1-2 so don't really need another top2 c. As a Blackhawks fan would like this though. He can play wing and on a lot of prospect rankings byram is 6-8 so Chicago can move back and get whoever's there cause 3-10 it's a crapshoot anywa.

16 May 2019 16:44:37
Oilers don’t need a prospect D more than they need RNH. There loaded with D prospects and two that could potentially be top pair. Regardless it’s an over pay to move up 5 spots.

17 May 2019 00:38:50
Who is the favourite at #3? I was originally podkolzin, but Byram is enticing or do you grab a center; cozens, turcotte, dach. Then there is a playmates, zebras; goal scorer, caufield; and who knows what kreb could do on a good line or carrying a 3rd line by himself. I am for chicago, not sure why Edmonton would move up when the difference from 3rd to 10th is a toss up. You need to really want someone specific to give up Hopkins for this. There is better assets already in the NHL to trade Hopkins for.

17 May 2019 04:53:55
Oiler’s must not make this trade. Is so very bad for the Edmonton Oilers. RNH is such very good hockey player. And I read many times that % that 8 oa is great player or is bust is very same as #3 oa. They are basically the same pick. Is so very true. So that is why Edmonton must not do this.

17 May 2019 07:03:12
No from Edmonton. Makes no sense at all and value is off

17 May 2019 09:31:47
Zamboni stop Reading what others write and get your own opinion. byram will be much better than the #8

In my opinion byram will be better than Dahlin and he went first.

17 May 2019 12:16:57
Swechamp. Everyone can have their opinions. But not a single professional scout I've read has Byram at 3. Not a single one. The highest I've seen is 5 . He is above all the other defenceman in this draft by a bit but in no way is he close to dahlin.

17 May 2019 14:43:01
Better then Dahlin? Dahlin is the most hyped defensive prospect ever. No dman was ever as hyped as him coming out of their draft year.

17 May 2019 18:55:33
Ekblad

17 May 2019 20:25:45
Dahlin was compared to Bobby Orr by some and Lindstrom by most. Doubt Buffalo would move him for McDavid.

17 May 2019 22:58:47
Ok, just seen sportsnet has byram at 3 cause of his playoffs, my bad.

18 May 2019 10:38:19
Vb if oilers called Buffalo and Said ”mcdavid for eichel and Dahlin” Buffalo would accept in a heartbeat.

18 May 2019 12:57:33
No they wouldn’t lol Dahlin And Eichel are a cup worthy core McDavid is abit better then Eichel but not a lot.

19 May 2019 00:35:20
eichels not that great vb, the sabres should've picked marner.

19 May 2019 20:11:35
i agree with vb, there's defs no defenceman who had more hype than dahlin. However shoots, i have seen EVERYWHERE with Byram going #3. he's supposedly the best d prospect out of the whl since scott neidemeyer (butchered his last name lol) and lots of people are saying Byram is a future #1 dman. So the hype is for sure there.

 


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