NHL rumours 7

28 Oct 2022 14:32:33
Toronto Trades
Kerfoot
Niemela (SML)
2nd Round Pick 2024

Vancouver Trades
Garland

Thoughts ?

28 Oct 2022 18:44:00
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Leafs need a Goalie and D…why would they trade for an undersized third-liner whose only 20-goal season was 3 years ago?

The leafs will never outscore their weaknesses, and adding at the forward position isn’t a priority. For a guy who only posts about the leafs you don’t seem to grasp what their needs are.

29 Oct 2022 17:14:37
You have no clue what the leafs needs are Chickenfoot. The leafs don’t need dman or a goalie they need scoring depth.

29 Oct 2022 18:14:56
VB - the leafs are lacking compete, and with 4 guys consuming half the cap, they can never build depth. They’ve proven that time and again, so don’t take my word for it. Their record is who they are.

VCR needs help on D, so from their perspective this trade addresses nothing. Most leaf proposals on this page rarely take into account what the fit might be for teams other than their own.

Last but not least, Kerfoot has a NTC, and is in the final year of his deal. Why would VCR want that? How would a pending UFA possibly be any help to a team ready to start a full or partial rebuild?

Why my previous post strikes a nerve with you is of no interest to me, but if you think this deal is fair or attractive to Vancouver then that’s on you.

29 Oct 2022 23:35:53
Clearly you have no clue how to read as there was zero mention of Vancouver in my post just pointing out your ignorance on the leafs roster build.

30 Oct 2022 01:46:49
I feel quite comfortable with my assessment of the leafs, and your opinion isn’t shared by any leaf fans I know. Yet another poor effort tonight certainly hasn’t changed anyones minds about what they are. If you’re happy with them power to you. I certainly don’t feel the need to trade insults with you.

30 Oct 2022 21:06:38
Don’t see how last night was a poor effort? The leafs let in 2 power play goals and battled hard. They lost fair and square. 2 goals a night is unacceptable hence furthers my point the need depth scoring. Saying they need another goalie is beyond stupid. The leafs management put there faith in the tandem for better or worse and Samsonov has looked like an absolute stud so far. The defence is good the have 5 top 4 dman in Muzzin, Rielly, Brodie, Lilijgren ( this guy is a stud ) and Girodano.

28 Oct 2022 09:08:04
to Carolina Hurricanes :
LW/RW - Nils Hoglander (891k @ 1 RFA)

to Vancouver Canucks :
RD - Ethan Bear (2.20 @ 1 RFA)


to Calgary Flames :
1st Round Pick in 2023 [VAN]
LD/RD - Travis Dermott (1.50 @ 1 RFA)

to Vancouver Canucks :
LD/RD - Oliver Kylington (2.50 @ 2 UFA)


to Arizona Coyotes :
RD - Tucker Poolman (2.50 @ 3 UFA)

to Vancouver Canucks :
LW/RW - Christian Fischer (1.12 @ 1 RFA)




J Miller - E Pettersson - B Boeser
A Kuzmenko - B Horvat - C Garland
I Mikheyev - N Aman - V Podkolzin
T Pearson - C Lazar - C Fischer


O Ekman-Larsson - T Myers
Q Hughes - O Kylington
R Stillman - E Bear

28 Oct 2022 11:47:59
I can’t imagine why VCR would trade a 1st in a season that they’ll be in the running for a great pick, if not a lottery pick.

The other proposals don’t seem realistic either.

28 Oct 2022 16:16:36
I meant a 2024 1st my bad

28 Oct 2022 18:30:16
For trying to upgrade the Canucks D, I wonder if there is some sort of way the Canucks and Hawks could come up with something, a Hughes for Seth Jones deal, not sure how it would all look . But something based around that.

29 Oct 2022 18:17:10
SOSA: agreed. If CHI retains half they can find teams to take on Jones’ deal. They just need someone that Jones will agree to go to. I agree with you that a deal like that is possible.

30 Oct 2022 21:08:13
Jones is not better then Hughes.

01 Nov 2022 20:19:06
Jones isn't as good ad Hughes on the PP, but he's not to bad offensively, however, he is way above Hughes when it comes to the Defensive aspect of the game. Hughes isn't physically strong enough to be a good 2 way Damn in the league.

27 Oct 2022 16:35:10
To Canucks- Benn, Harley, 2024 1st
To Stars- Miller, Rathbone

Dallas rids themselves of Benn's contract and get a better player for a slightly lower cap hit and squire a good young defenceman. Canucks collect assets for the future and gain cap flexibility much sooner. Rathbone also doesn't appear to have a place on the Canucks blue line with Hughes in the lineup and Harley could replace him as a good young defence prospect for the Canucks.

27 Oct 2022 16:29:23
To Canucks- Murray, Muzzin, Kerfoot, Robertson, 2023 1st, Niemela
To Maple Leafs- Demko, OEL, Schenn, Dermott

Canucks and Maple Leaf's swap some bad contracts in Murray and OEL but Maple Leafs get the goaltender they need to become true Stanley cup contenders and upgrade their defence while the Canucks initiate a rebuild and tank for a high draft pick in a deep 2023 draft.

29 Oct 2022 20:07:18
- Murray can’t stay healthy
- Muzzin’s concussions are really piling up to the point he needs to think long and hard about his post-hockey health
- Demko is the real deal, and since great teams are built from the net out, I can’t imagine why VCR would ever move such an important building block.

30 Oct 2022 21:09:50
Goalies are like Kickers in the NFL. Not much trade value.

26 Oct 2022 23:12:23
Given Josh Norris injury, I could see the Sens making a move for a UFA to fill the need

Bo Horvat to Sens for a prospect like Jarventie and a 2nd. Upgradeable to a 1st if they take Zaitsev.

Brassard is filling the need for now, but a stronger option certainly wouldn't hurt

27 Oct 2022 01:10:59
The Sens aren’t one move away from a Cup, so it’s unlikely they move a package for a UFA.

27 Oct 2022 11:26:46
They will want to pay DeBrincat and Zub first.

26 Oct 2022 13:27:51
Canucks send Bo Horvat to Sabres, for Flyers 2nd(23) and Sabres 1st (24)

Canucks need to seriously rebuild from scratch, Sabres get a solid 2nd line centre, that is good on draws.

This will be one of many trades the Canucks make over the next 6 months.

26 Oct 2022 15:13:50
If Horvat wasn't a rental, he might get that return, but since he is a rental, he's not getting a high 1st and 2nd in return.

26 Oct 2022 20:18:30
I dont think the Canucks need a complete rebuild. They have lots of good peices, even foundation pieces.
The Defense is brutal, if im the Canucks management, I look to move Hughes. His value is high, however, he's maybe the worst Defensman I've ever seen, but he can move a puck.
Get back a good solid 2 Way Dman, make some smaller moves. Some tweaks here and there.
But no need to blow up the team.

27 Oct 2022 16:51:43
LOL Sabres will not be trading for a rental. They are one of the worst teams in the east. If they don’t land a top C in the draft he may make sense as a a UFA but i see Cozens and him as to similar of players.

28 Oct 2022 18:50:03
VBBBB - I agree with much of what you say, but BUF is no longer one of the worst teams in the East. They are currently 7th out of 16.

25 Oct 2022 19:39:20
Toronto Trades
Engvall
Holl

Vancouver Trades
Garland

Thoughts ?

25 Oct 2022 23:40:46
Wow…after all this time and you’re still offering up the same old leaf trades. We haven’t seen you since you miraculously got upvoted more times on one post than you had in months. 😂.

26 Oct 2022 12:58:52
Canucks are a team that badly needs to rebuild, so I don't see them taking on 2 UFA's that are similar to the boatload of players they already have.

27 Oct 2022 00:00:46
EXCELLENT point Renidrag.

I didn’t really understand what Vancouver was trying to do, but I will blame it on the constant meddling from Francesco Aquilini, who has meddled with every coach and GM he has had. Like other similar owners who have been successful in business, guys like Francesco feel like they know more than their hockey people. (NEWS FLASH: you don’t, and your team has zero chance till you stay away. )

Trevor Linden was hired as President to address this very situation. As a respected player from the past, it was felt Francesco finally found the one guy he would listen to. He simply can’t help but interfere, and when Linden was unable to stop him, he bailed. Quickly.

Vancouver fans…sadly you’re screwed as long as your owner meddles. He’s young-ish for an owner, so unfortunately there is no solution, just new faces, with the same old problems. Too bad you can’t fire the owner. Good thing his dad set them up with wealth because Francesco has absolutely ZERO impulse control.

24 Oct 2022 19:22:59
to Vancouver Canucks :
LD/RD - Oliver Kylington (2.50 @ 2 UFA)

to Calgary Flames :
LW/RW - Nils Hoglander (891k @ 1 RFA)



to Vancouver Canucks :
LD/RD - Jakob Chychrun (4.60 @ 3 UFA)

to Arizona Coyotes :
RW - Jonathan Lekkerimaki (unsigned)
1st Round Pick in 2023 [VAN]
LW - Tanner Pearson (3.25 @ 2 UFA)
RD - Tucker Poolman (2.50 @ 3 UFA)





J Miller - E Pettersson - B Boeser
A Kuzmenko - B Horvat - C Garland
I Mikheyev - N Aman - V Podkolzin
A Bains - C Lazar - J Dakota


O Ekman-Larsson - J Chychrun
Q Hughes - T Myers
R Stillman - O Kylington

T Demko

25 Oct 2022 19:26:01
If im the Canucks, I hold on to that 2023 1st Rnd pick.
Actually any team that isn't a top tier Cup contender like the Canes, Rangers, Avalanche, ect. I hold on to the 1st rnd. Gonna be a deep draft .

Canucks are deffenitley struggling, but I think they will turn it around and at least compete for a playoff spot., not saying they will get one.