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21 Jul 2018 03:45:40
Leafs: Rielly
Oilers: Draisaitl

memarcusjoe

1.) 21 Jul 2018 05:33:42
why would leafs do that . give up their one good D for a Center when they have Mathews, Tavares, Kadri .


2.) 21 Jul 2018 05:50:36
I’m going to be honest here Drais is great and has more value then Rielly but no way leafs make this trade Rielly is the only bright spot in there Dcore and Peter. C is known for making questionable trades so “maybe” if Rielly was a RHD he’d accept it but the fact is the oilers are set at the left side.


3.) 21 Jul 2018 06:19:14
Leafs have no need for drat and need Reilly way way more.


4.) 21 Jul 2018 08:11:55
Great idea, as we all know the Leafs could really use their surplus of great defenseman and trade for the elite C they're desparetly lacking.


5.) 21 Jul 2018 15:34:37
Biasjoe is just trying to see how we value our own teams players. It looks like vbb’s and myself know that Draisaitl has more value. That’s crazy eh joe, considering we’re leaf fans? Do you see how that works? I am judging a player by their true value, not what team they play for.


6.) 21 Jul 2018 16:04:50
Different situation leafs pull the trigger right away. But as said above, to trade your best Dman for a guy going to be 3rd centre or an $8.5 mill winger makes zero sense. Just stick to that Winnipeg koolaid, joe.


7.) 21 Jul 2018 17:05:04
Every Leaf Fan knows Drais>Rielly in value. But unlike the Jets, the Leafs have a need for Defense, as everyone knows, so we’d certainly not trade our best dman for another centre.


8.) 22 Jul 2018 22:54:42
pretty sure the leafs do this in a heartbeat. it wouldn't be that hard to flip drai or another asset for a very solid dman.

just a value game at this point. no idea why edm would do this.


 

 

21 Jul 2018 00:11:32
Leafs: Rielly
Oilers: Draisaitl.

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24 Apr 2019 14:02:03
There are only two teams that have not won a playoff series in the salary cap era.   Florida and Toronto.

I find it amazing that Toronto, a team with (just ask any Leaf fan here) the 23 most valuable players in the NHL.   Including the top 4 forwards currently playing in the league, 3 centers that would be 1C's on every other team in the league, at least one generational player, the "real" Norris trophy winning defenseman and the best goalie in the history of hockey.   How? How? How is THAT team continuous first round fodder?

Could it be that the Leaf fans here massively overrate every single player and prospect in their system?   Nah, they wouldn't do that would they?

memarcusjoe

1.) 24 Apr 2019 14:33:18
Not to mention a the best coach and Gm in sports history.


2.) 24 Apr 2019 15:04:12
Unfortunately for the Leaf fans this happens way too often and the only thing it does is inflates their player sense of worth so they eventually over pay for their so called star. Also because every player is a potential all-star and award winner when that player plays like they really are and makes mistakes then some fans and Toronto's media monster drive the kid out of town. Then posters here make ridiculous trade posts, overvaluing their players and when they'er told it isn't a fair trade they retort by calling anyone who doesn't agree with their fantasy post a homer. How sad. No wonder the Leafs haven't won the cup for 52 years. memarcusjoe expect to be lambasted over this post.


3.) 24 Apr 2019 18:33:18
I’m not sure anyone implied that leafs players have much value.

Mathews and Tavares top 10 Cs- Facts undebatable

Marner is one of the best up and coming players in the game- fact undebatable

Rielly was a top 5 defence man in the NHL this year- he was top 3 in scoring for dman

Nylander is a bad season separated from a star in the making ( still think he’s better then Ehlers but very close in value ) - it’s much more likely he bounces back rather then having another bad season.

Kadri is a 2C on most teams and is probably the best 3C in the game.

Andersen’s stats show that he is a top 5 goalie- fact


Kappanen, Johnsson, Lilijgren, Sandin are all worth 1st round picks.

Dermotte is worth more to the leafs than to any other team.

It is logically impossible to disprove any of these points thank you goodnight.


4.) 24 Apr 2019 19:24:41
Lol okay elite Bryan Little truther. Auston&JT are first liners on almost any team, don't try and tell anyone they aren’t. Rielly is still an elite dman, he had the most goals and T3 in points. Marner is an elite RW. Our defence isn't great but it was shored. Our 3L got exposed and our goalie had a garbGe game7, and our coach is extremely stuborn.


5.) 24 Apr 2019 19:57:08
Wow. I guess you were glued to game 7 just like chirpy and all the others. Your team of untouchables that even non leaf fans comment on are out as well. Not sure if you noticed that. It seems that Canadian teams are sh*t. Maybe if we had Danault Habby, or had Dubas not replied to Marchand’s tweet, lol.


6.) 24 Apr 2019 19:59:05
Lol at vbbb and topshelf. Even in the face of epic ineptness by the Laffs, their overvaluing of their players continues.

The Laffs motto should be:

Toronto Maple Leafs: Golfing in April - A Tradition Since 1967!


7.) 24 Apr 2019 20:49:38
Holy Mackinaw, Johnny Toronto had a great season as he finally made the playoffs.


8.) 24 Apr 2019 20:50:45
Yes leafs17 if you had daneult you guys probably would have won game 6 instead of Nazem Cooke watching from the press box again.


9.) 24 Apr 2019 21:01:37
You’re right again habby. The best 2 way center in the game has never been mentioned by anyone in the league, other than an old man with too much time on his hands. I also like how the Winnipeg cheer leaders kept it bottled up until now. The leafs must have had you gals worried. For a jets fan to talk trash is pretty comical. You guys still seem to forget your history of being bottom feeders. Either that or you’re young and naive.


10.) 24 Apr 2019 21:06:01
@Habby, I agree. That has to be a real kick in the butt for leaf fans. Kadri could actually have made a difference yesterday by providing some secondary offence since the top 4 players in the NHL all playing for the Leafs were their typical no show selves again. But instead the idiot is in the press box, suspended for a selfish play. AGAIN.

I hope Kadri remains a Leaf for a long, long time. He'll go down as one of the most costly morons of all time.


11.) 24 Apr 2019 21:17:53
Memarcusjoe rationality must not be a trait you’re familiar with. You can throw all the shots you like but the reality is the jets are in the exact same position as the leafs only difference is the leafs actually made it to 7 games played a more formidable opponent.


12.) 24 Apr 2019 21:25:20
Habby and memarcusjoe we should be more sensitive to these Leaf fans as having their team not winning a cup in 52 years, 5 plus decades, over a half a century, would make a fan of a perennial loser like the Leafs crazy. Don't worry as in a week they will be planning the parade for next season as they tell us they have the greatest team ever assembled, on paper.


13.) 24 Apr 2019 21:33:31
Vbbb and Leafs17, you guys can try to compare yourselves to the Jets all you want, but you know the Leafs aren't close. The Jets have actually won a playoff series or two while the Laffs are still fighting to remain winless.

As my original post notes, the Laffs have far more in common with a bottom feeder like Florida than they do with real teams like the Jets.

So, I'll ask again. With all this supposed elite talent the Leafs have, how come they're out once again?

I know losing is what makes the Leafs the Leafs, it's their heritage, but do you guys always want to stay on that path?


14.) 24 Apr 2019 21:45:41
You’re an angry young boy Joe. You guys were the 2nd best team in the NHL I thought? We were all told that many times. Even old man habby would agree if his memory serves him.


15.) 24 Apr 2019 21:53:42
Uh, leafs17, please don’t presume to know me and please don’t talk about what I’m doing. It’s weird and off-putting, you stalker. I didn’t see the game because I was at work.


16.) 24 Apr 2019 22:02:02
I understand Leafs17, it's easier to keep deflecting than to try and explain how your $11 million dollar center, tied for the best center in the league, scored 1 yes 1 whole goal in a 7 game series.

Now that money was well spent!


17.) 24 Apr 2019 22:29:06
I wonder if we have to be forced fed that stupid commercial with Matthews and Marner holding hands while they do anything but learn how to win a hockey game or the one with kids playing hockey that want to be Matthews. Only in Toronto. Its not like the rest of the country is infatuated with these commercials. What a joke.


18.) 24 Apr 2019 22:54:44
@vbbb everyone of those statements are debatable except the one about marner.


19.) 25 Apr 2019 00:37:04
Debut them then.


20.) 24 Apr 2019 23:51:36
I said the jets had the best roster as they have the ability to play any way. But we will see how formidable of an opponent Boston is when they play the 8th seed blue jackets. If the Bruins actually win that series I'll come back on here and admit the leafs are closer then I thought. With regards to daneult if you listened to anything other then leaf media plenty of unbiased sites were talking about him and how his line was one of the better 2 way lines in the nhl. But again torontonet or the Toronto sports network don't talk about it much. So I can understand you being brainwashed. But in leaf land nazem Kadri is the only top defensive centre in the history of the league who doesn't kill penalties lol.


21.) 25 Apr 2019 02:10:26
@vbbb keep in mind I didn't say I didn't agree with your statements but I could realistically see an argument for all of them except the marner one.


22.) 25 Apr 2019 02:25:34
But I'll ask you this just for fun do you think Anderson would be one of the top 5 goalies picked to start a playoff series by anyone? Other then leaf fans?
Do you think it's possible that Tavares or Matthews wouldn't be one of the first 10 picked to start a playoff series keep in mind even though they don't put up incredible regular season numbers Washington has 2 centres that a lot of people would take before them not to mention the two in Pittsburgh and Patrice Bergeron would get more votes then either Matthews or Tavares. I think it's rather easy to find 5 more who are arguably better.
Same thing for Reilly if a gm had his choice of picking any 5 dman to start the playoffs with could you see the scenario where reily may not be picked?


23.) 25 Apr 2019 02:34:11
When was the last time the jets/ thrashers won the Stanley cup? Who cares about how far they made it the last few years if you don’t win how’s that any better than losing in the first round or 3rd round? It’s still losing. As hockey fans we shouldn’t be fighting we should be cheering each other on. Every Canadian team has elite players or soon to be elite players and have bright futures all at the same time. “If you’re not first your last” no point in bitching about it. it’s just a game!


24.) 25 Apr 2019 02:57:44
You failed to debut any of the points I’ve made.


25.) 25 Apr 2019 04:16:34
I forget how many cups the Jets have? Maybe we should be discussing how sh*t Canadian teams are. I’m willing to admit the leafs are not contenders. Joe and Jet continue to group all leaf fans together. Maybe you guys go to many other sites, I’m not sure. I for one have a busy life and barely make time to argue with you guys, lol. There is one person on this site that makes ridiculous leaf proposals and one person that likes to pump the tires of leafs players. There are 3 maybe 4 jets fans in the world and 50% are delusional. Good average. The blackAlpaca is very respectable.


26.) 25 Apr 2019 05:40:39
I didn't fail to debut anything lol cause I didn't try I just tried to show you how debatable most of those statements actually are vbbb.


27.) 25 Apr 2019 21:17:05
Don Cherry stated that Andersen was the best goalie in the NHL. I don’t agree but I’d say he’s top 5 he played great in the playoffs and if you watched him you’d agree. Also at the Mid way Point of the season Rielly was the favourite to win the Norris.


28.) 25 Apr 2019 21:18:15
Sports net also ranked Mathews the 4 best C in the NHL last offseason and Tavares 7th. Statistically they only got better.


29.) 25 Apr 2019 22:48:02
Don cherry and sports net are your sources? The two biggest leaf homers on the planet lol.


30.) 26 Apr 2019 11:06:57
Don Cherry is a Bruins fan.


31.) 26 Apr 2019 22:46:19
Don cherry is a leaf fan who also likes Boston cause he coached there for a few years. His allegiance is to the leafs though that's pretty common knowledge.


 

 

25 Dec 2018 05:45:46
Merry Christmas everybody!

memarcusjoe

1.) 25 Dec 2018 13:55:26
Cheers buddy, to you and your family as well, to everyone and everyones families!


2.) 25 Dec 2018 15:10:11
Merry Christmas.


3.) 25 Dec 2018 21:04:50
Have a Merry Christmas all.


4.) 25 Dec 2018 22:50:59
Merry Christmas.


5.) 28 Dec 2018 01:36:39
Love all the “disagrees” lol.


 

 

21 Jul 2018 17:01:25
Yes, the value experiment worked as I figured it would.

Vbbb, Leafs17 and Jim have all admitted they are true hypocritical homers.


According to the criteria established in the Trouba trades below by these Leaf fans, you absolutely have to accept the trade if you are offered a player of close to equal or more value. Regardless of whether or not you need them or can afford their contract. If you don't you're a homer.

Now, presented with the same situation, Leaf fans turn down the trade, but have multiple excuses as to why they aren't homers.

Thanks for coming out and admitting all Leaf fans on here are hypocritical homers, by turning down the trade.

memarcusjoe

1.) 21 Jul 2018 23:06:25
Read it again smart guy. All I said was Draisaitl has more value.


2.) 21 Jul 2018 23:06:43
So. Matthews, Marner, Rielly, Liljegren and 1st for Trouba, Little and Roslovic.

Who says no?
Probabky Winnipeg tbh. That offer from Toronto would need to at least add Tavares to get the almighty Trouba.


3.) 21 Jul 2018 23:27:49
And also, heres a list of a couple others that you and @islandjet rejected:

Marner for Trouba (You said it's in the right ballpark, but would prefer a centre. No thanks. Marner is a superior player to Trouba lmao. Marner drives a line. You don't say no to a guy who can quarterback a line because he 'isn't a centre'. Apart from Wheeler and Laine, Marner is a big upgrade to what you guys have) .

Rielly for Trouba (Just lol, Mo and Trouba are similar players and Mo is on a good contract, we should all see that Mo>Trouba based on that)

Bouchard (D-Prospect) + RNH for Little + Trouba (Upgrade centre which is what you want, and you get a 'cheaper' dman, albeit a couple years away. RNH >>> Little btw. )

And also. you might say 'SOME OF THESE TRADES don't HAVE DMEN TO REPLACE TROUBA SO there's NO POINT'.

Well:
Ain't you the one that said 'apart from Rielly, no one on Toronto would crack WPG's blueline'? Or was that islandjet? Either way, aparrently, you guys have an absolute PLETHORA of dprospects like Sami Niku or Tucker Poolman (Who are both apperantly better than Gardiner according to you guys lMaO) . So yeah, don't mess your words. If you have such a great dcore, why need to replace Trouba if you're upgrading at forward?


4.) 21 Jul 2018 23:18:07
In seriousness, let's get down to it, okay. Let's retrace some of those deals that were previously offered:

Ghost and Patrick for Little, Trouba and I think a 2nd.
You want a centre? You got a centre in Patrick as replacement for Little; younger, cheaper, more potential, better player next year imo.

You want a dman in return? You got a dman in return who isn't asking bonkers in money in Ghost, unlike Trouba asking 7+ million, lmao. And Ghost is a far, far superior player.

This deal is totally 1-Sided. Patrick and Ghost are superior players, and yet, you and islandjet rejected this trade. And for what? What other position do the Jets need help in, lmao.

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Juolevi and Horvat for Trouba and Little.

Hmmmmmmmmm. Let's break this one down too.

Horvat is far superior than Little. Horvat is young, cheap, and imo, I could see him as a selke candidate in his prime. He's the perfect shutdown 2C for Vancouver after Pettersson transitions from Europe. What's his replacement? Brian Little - old, slow, bigger contract. Vancouver's trying to get younger.

And of course Trouba is worth more then Juolevi, anyone with eyes can see that. But Juolevi was a #5 Overall Pick, and can break into the NHL next year. And you want a replacement dman aye? there's your replacement dman. He won't be as good as Trouba, but he's way cheaper and has potential to grow into a Trouba role.

NEXT!

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Keller and Crouse for Trouba and Little.

Lml, let's break it down shall we?
Little is worth more than Crouse 100%. Nobody denying that. Crouse is a 20 point winger in the NHL, nothing more imho. But look at what Arizona has done over the past two seasons: Galchenyuk, Hinostroza, Stepan. All superior or equivalent centres to Little on better contracts, or are better/ younger. But sure, I'll give you the value there, Littles better for sure.

Onto Keller for Trouba. KELLER IS HEAD OVER HEELS BETTER THAN TROUBA. Keller is the one really, really bright spot on ARZ. Easily has Marner potential and could be a star if surrounded correctly. And don't give me BS that Winnipeg couldn't use him and he'd be 'battling Roslovic and Dano and f'n Adam Lowry'. Keller would easily be one of the best players on the Jets and would make them nasty - giving them two role out lines; Schief/ Laine and Keller/ Wheeler. As for Trouba for AZ, what's he going to do? They already have a ton of money tied into Hjalmarasson, OEL, Demers and Goligoski. What, pay another 7 million for Trouba? Take a hike.

See buddy, we ain't the lunatics. You are. Stop acting like we're crazy. You're crazy. You want the sun and the moon for Trouba, and you ain't going to get it.


5.) 21 Jul 2018 23:54:38
Mathews=Eichel or any player not named Crosby or McDavid
Marner=Guadreau
Nylander=Paryanko/ Ehlers
Kadri=Nylander
Tavares=Kane
Rielly=Lindholm
Anderson=Quick
Gardiner=Ryan Murray
Marleau=Kovluchuk
Kappanen=13th overall
Brown=projected late 1st like Hartman
Hyman=Brown

Call me bias but this is my evaluation of leaf players.


6.) 22 Jul 2018 04:42:37
Your biased lol.


7.) 22 Jul 2018 05:31:58
Topshelfslpper I didn't say Trouba was the better player in all the trades mention but I believe that he is more valuable to the Jets than some trades proposed here. Marner would help any team in the NHL but the Jets trading for him would leave a big hole on the Jets defensive right side for a type of player the Jets have in Ehlers, Connor, Wheeler and Laine. Besides there is no way the Leafs would do this deal. If and when the Jets trade Trouba or any other player it will be for a piece or pieces that improve the team. You are the one that thinks every trade would improve the Jets and I actually know what the Jets have not only in the NHL but in the minors, that will be fighting for a spot on the roster. Some of these proposals look good now but could hurt the Jets in 2 or 3 years. You don't have to agree with me but that's my opinion and I really appreciate that you actually took time to defend your position with facts rather than the usual childish quip such as this team laughs or hangs up the phone.


8.) 22 Jul 2018 06:30:32
Why would Trouba leave a big hole in your Defense? Earlier today and yesterday you said jets have 7 Dmen better than Jake Gardiner who is a good top 4 Dman. How can you have 7 top 4 Dmen and yet turn down Marner because of the hole it would leave?! Lol you and MarcusJoe together have made jets fans look like the most clueless fans going. Good job 👏.


9.) 22 Jul 2018 14:54:24
Bahaha! From what we have heard from these 2 bozo’s, there are no holes in the line up. Give them the cup now, they did already have one good season in franchise history. I love how the island tries to sound all mature and non confrontational yet calls the leafs defense pathetic yesterday. That’s not childish quip at all?


10.) 22 Jul 2018 15:27:35
But now at the same time we are proving you are a hypothetical jets fan that doesn’t know hockey or the value for players on your team with out being a homer. You can compare the 2 teams jets and leafs an they are close value wise. So for you to call them homers and not yourself is crazy. And if we go back through all the threads him gives the best reasons and break downs on all trades. You just have to figure out even though you don’t like Toronto there’s players are good and some really good.


11.) 22 Jul 2018 16:56:33
The other factor in trading a player is how it affects the teams cap space. Trouba is not worth $7 mil a year to the Jets based on how many more players they have to sign. He may be worth $7 mil to teams that have players that are signed to long term affordable contracts but Trouba at $7 would cripple the Jets with Connor, Wheeler and Laine coming up next season. Some of these trade proposals on paper are very good but in the cap world would hamstring the Jets for years. If you were informed more about the Jets prospects, of their 4 top ranked d-men only Poolman is a right shot player. In 3/ 4 years the Jets may only have Myers, Trouba and Poolman in their system so a need for left shot d-men are not a priority. If they are forced to trade Trouba the Jets have 5/ 6 top forwards coming up in 2-4 years so getting a forward that would want 7-8 mil a year would be cap crazy when they have affordable players coming up. The big picture is hard to take, but a trade involving Trouba is a lot more complicated that getting, on paper, a better player or players that the Jets can't afford in 2 years. If the Jets trade Trouba it most likely will be for a young right shot d-man that isn't ready to be a top pairing player for 2 or 3 years. The Jets would still have Buff, Myers and Poolman who can shelter a young d-man until they are ready to take over.


12.) 22 Jul 2018 18:13:43
@Islandjet,
That's what all the Leafs homers on this site don't understand. They think it is like NHL 18 and that if you have a player that is rated 80 and someone offers you two or three players that total 82, you have to take that trade. It doesn't matter that you can't afford them, or that you don't need a player at a certain position, you just have to accept the trade.
They need to understand that in a cap world there is far more to a trade than just equal or more value.

Especially, when they want you to rely on their homer centric views on player values on players they know nothing about instead of using advanced stats to evaluate players that you don't get to see play often, like I do.


13.) 22 Jul 2018 19:48:33
Lol @marcus whafya have to say for me? Is my evaluation false and am I a homer too? Hmph. No response from Marcus as of what I’m seeing.


14.) 22 Jul 2018 19:48:33
Lol @marcus whafya have to say for me? Is my evaluation false and am I a homer too? Hmph. No response from Marcus as of what I’m seeing.


 

 

 

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17 Jul 2019 18:17:31
The Jets would do it, the Leafs wouldn't.

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17 Jul 2019 03:53:36
There would definitely need to be more coming from the Jets.

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15 Jul 2019 05:13:04
The Jets don't need wingers, especially soft, overpaid ones.

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14 Jul 2019 20:40:05
I think Buffalo might want more, but Risto is not the type of defenseman the Jets need. So, I would say no.

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13 Jul 2019 21:33:09
Start with Kotkaniemi and add from there.

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