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31 Oct 2024 19:16:05
Mtl- dvorak-barron-primeau- 3rd pick

Sj- vanecek-sturm

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01 Nov 2024 18:18:16
Why would the Habs, a rebuilding team, send 4 pieces for a 28 and 29 year old?

MTL declines, and if it’s a poor year, their reward will be drafting well with all those early picks.

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27 Oct 2024 14:29:48
Sharks Trade
Kunin
3rd Round Pick 2025*

Leafs Trade
NRobertson
Kampf
Liljegren

*SJ will decide which of the four 3rd Round Picks in 2025 Toronto receives.


Once DeWar and Hakanpaa are activated Toronto will need to both get under the cap and be able to fit a full 23 man roster, Kunin gives them a better third line winger than NRobertson gives them.

SJ in a full rebuild will be making deals like this for their future and it's something I believe helps them more than keeping Kunin.



Thoughts ?

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28 Oct 2024 03:34:27
So the leafs get to dump 3 contracts worth 14M+ for a player that SJ resigned to a 1-year contract of 2.75M…and SJ is the team adding a sweetener?

Seriously?

A rebuilding team like SJ takea on bad contracts because they’re incentivized to do so with picks or prospects. They don’t do it to help teams who have mismanaged their cap.

This is intro hockey 101 kind of stuff. Even a casual fan would get why this is a one-sided trade that would never happen.

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28 Oct 2024 11:15:50
Chickenfoot
NRobertson and Liljegren are the sweetners, SJ have a ton of picks and prospects already going forward, adding 2 players like that is a positive move not what you paint it as.

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28 Oct 2024 14:06:09
if 2 players "like that" are incentives, why get rid of them?

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28 Oct 2024 15:07:56
balsam8
Cap plus Liljegren doesn't fit into The Leafs defense anymore.
That's why.

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29 Oct 2024 02:11:21
Wow…. the problems/ recurring trade subjects are the sweeteners.

I think I’ll just let that soak in….

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30 Oct 2024 22:55:23
👏👏👏👏 no more liljegren crap trade rumours.

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30 Oct 2024 23:36:02
Replace Kunin with Benning.

Now take out Robertson and Kampf.

Now you can see what an NHL trade looks like. If the Leafs had you for their GM they would have been fleeced by San Jose today.

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26 Oct 2024 22:30:32
Utah receives Lilly and Robertson

Toronto receives McBain

Utah is thin on the right defense and can get somewhat of the same position in Robertson.

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19 Oct 2024 17:11:27
Utah Trades
Crouse

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
Liljegren


Utah is an a obvious pickle and this type of proposal helps both Teams imo.
Yes once DeWar, Jarnkrok and Hakanpaa are ready to be activated to get under the cap more moves will be forced, but until then this is something I believe Toronto as well as Utah will be looking at.



Thoughts ?

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19 Oct 2024 21:38:01
I doubt that Utah has any interest in trading Crouse, especially for those two disposable pieces.

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19 Oct 2024 22:57:32
Why are they in a pickle?

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20 Oct 2024 00:04:30
Ebsolutely
Both Durzi and Marino both out for most of the season is why they are in a pickle on Defense.

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20 Oct 2024 04:25:37
If leafs want to unload contracts, they add, not get a good player in return. Liljgren is a mid round and Roberson less. Like trying to unload jarnkrok and kampf for a top 6 with better salary you're always trying to sell. Lilgren has upside but he's a old prospect. Roberson has upside but they need to show their worth.

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20 Oct 2024 16:18:44
Tury59
Unload contracts?
Crouse makes $4,300.000
Liljegren $3,000.000
NRobertson $875.000

Utah saves money on this proposal, please know your facts!

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21 Oct 2024 11:40:36
I doubt they unload Crouse. But you're not wrong about Utah being the ideal trade partner. I'd explore the idea of a deal around McBain for Liligren. Picks involved I'm sure, but we get a big body upfront that opens up the potential of unloading some more players for lower end picks. Utah addresses their backend issue for the time being. Maybe Lily hits his stride once he's moved 🤷🏻‍♂️.

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21 Oct 2024 16:25:31
Hey @chickenfoot feel free to rip me apart. Lilijgren has really fallen out of favour of Craig Berube. He’s the 6th/ 7th D in the system and a team like San Jose would give a mid round pick for him probably but that’s all he’s getting.

Personally I do really like him and hope he stays on the leafs tho IF berube decides to play him.

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22 Oct 2024 04:06:08
Pinball…so you’re offering up a 6-7 D (who has gotten in one game this year) and a guy with zero points on the season who is already on a “prove it” contract…. and you’re offering it up for a guy with 3 twenty goal seasons who is part of the core that Utah is building?

Sounds about right for a Pinball trade.

The leafs get a player, and Utah gets fringe NHL’ers without so much as a sweetener or salary retention.

And then…you lecture Tury59 to get his facts straight?

Wow…😂.

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22 Oct 2024 16:46:22
If there is a trade to happen I think it would be lilijgren for future consideration.

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22 Oct 2024 18:10:07
The only thing good about this trade is that for once you spared Kampf from being included in a trade proposal.

What could he have possibly done to deserve to be taken off the trade block though?

Last week he was an essential piece of a Granlund trade but today, the Leafs don't even need to include Kampf in order to acquire Crouse, who is a better player than Granlund at this point in their careers.

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28 Oct 2024 09:13:14
There is ZERO chance that 11 people upvoted this Pinball trade. Zero.

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29 Oct 2024 02:07:35
Chickenfoot
I don't upvote my own trade proposals, I guess you have a hard time believing that some actually obviously agree with me.
Every Leaf trade in your eyes isn't fair, I guess you see The Leafs as an AHL Team.

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29 Oct 2024 13:39:58
As I’ve said many times, your default reply of “you hate my team stuff” is so childish. Absolutely embarrassing.

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19 Oct 2024 16:32:51
Seems to me about as simple as you can get it Toronto:liljegren
Utah: 6th Rnd pick (24)

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19 Oct 2024 17:35:48
I just don’t see it happening for Utah. They have more depth in prospects than most, so they ma y not want to block a development path.

I also think retention or a sweetener have to be part of such a transaction.

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19 Oct 2024 12:14:05
PITT trades Jarry

Columbus trades Merzlikins

New start for both goalies.

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19 Oct 2024 17:36:07
I like it!

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19 Oct 2024 10:35:42
Colorado Avalanche
* Tristan Jarry $4,573,000
* Drew O'Connor $925,000
* Samuel Poulin &775,000
* Valtteri Puustinen $775,000



Pittsburg Penguins
* Alexandar Georgiev $3.4m
* Calum Ritchie $950,000
* 15% retained on Tristan Jarry’s Contract is $807,000
* Calle Rosen $775,000
* TJ Tynan $775,000


Idea of the trade was that two struggling goalies get new opportunities elsewhere.

The Av’s are in win mode now so they get a very good player in O’Connor who can make a difference. O’Connor is a UFA at end of season so Pittsburg resigning him was a gamble and feel that the Avalanche have a better shot.
Plus Puustinen can help the team today. Poulin also gets a fresh start and maybe he can make it work in Colorado.
Both of these players have term on their contract which benefits the Av’s.

Pittsburg has to retain salary only fair due to the term left on Jarry’s contract.
Pittsburg also gets a good prospect in Ritchie.
The other two players are simply throw in’s on the deal to make numbers and bodies work and both are UFA at end of season. They go right to the minors.

Thoughts??

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19 Oct 2024 01:00:11
Trade which helps both teams:

Colorado Avalanche
* Tristan Jarry (UFA) $4,573,000
* Drew O'Connor (UFA) $925,000
* Samuel Poulin (RFA) $775,000
* Valtteri Puustinen (UFA) $775,000

Total: $7,048,000.00


Pittsburg Penguins
* Alexandar Georgiev (UFA) $3.4m
* Calum Ritchie (RFA) $950,000
* 15% retained on Tristan Jarry’s Contract is $807,000
* Calle Rosen (UFA) $775,000
* TJ Tynan (UFA) $775,000

Total: $6,707,000.00


Thoughts?

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19 Oct 2024 10:39:36
Correction - disregard tbe UFA/RFA note.

Idea of the trade was that two struggling goalies get new opportunities elsewhere.

The Av’s are in win mode now so they get a very good player in O’Connor who can make a difference. O’Connor is a UFA at end of season so Pittsburg resigning him was a gamble and feel that the Avalanche have a better shot.
Plus Puustinen can help the team today. Poulin also gets a fresh start and maybe he can make it work in Colorado.
Both of these players have term on their contract which benefits the Av’s.

Pittsburg has to retain salary only fair due to the term left on Jarry’s contract.
Pittsburg also gets a good prospect in Ritchie.
The other two players are simply throw in’s on the deal to make numbers and bodies work and both are UFA at end of season. They go right to the minors.

Thoughts??

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17 Oct 2024 22:05:15
EDM - Kulak
TOR - Liljegren.

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17 Oct 2024 13:44:26
Red Wings:
- Justin Holl ($3.4m aav until 2026)

Maple Leafs:
- Timothy Liljegren ($3m aav until 2026)

I don't even know why I did this lol. I just thought if Berube doesn't seen any potential in Liljegren after one week, maybe Holl is the type of player he's looking for?

And if the Leafs can't afford to waive him for nothing, the Red Wings definitely can. Liljegren either rebounds in Detroit or he gets sent to Grand Rapids, worst case scenario he gets some time to showcase his value until Petry returns from injury.

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16 Oct 2024 00:04:21
Chicago: 25 4th., 26 4th. Toronto: liljgren. I've read going rate is a mid round pick. Maybe a 3rd. I can see Chicago picking him up and sending down nolan to an already stacked rockford de and reunited with korchinski. At this point Toronto doesn't have the depth to trade him but maybe figure it out.

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16 Oct 2024 18:41:59
It won’t take that much to get Lilly. The leafs have been asked for sweeteners or to retain salary.

What was the team thinking when they made him their 4th highest paid D-man, and then can’t play him? He’s paid like a 2nd pairing guy, but he’s actually a 6 or 7 D on a decent team.

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18 Oct 2024 01:11:40
I thought you were just being a Leafs hater Chickenfoot but you were actually right about this. Lol so much for being the most valuable D on the Leafs.

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18 Oct 2024 16:19:06
Hey EBS! Happy Friday!

I don’t hate anyone or any team. I don’t pretend to understand all the attention paid to this player though, either.

My thinking about Lilly is pretty much consistent with the general consensus among pundits, as to tradability and factors to making a move palatable to another team.

And yes…. I too laugh at the dude who thought Lilly was the most important D to the leafs. For all his insults and dismissals of others, it turns out he doesn’t understand his own team, let along “hockey” in general. 😂

Be good to yourself and enjoy the hockey this weekend. 🤜.

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24 Oct 2024 16:58:06
Liljegren ROTS …

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