NHL rumours 8

12 Oct 2023 23:54:36
To Florida Panthers :
LD - Noah Hanifin ( 4.95 @ 1 UFA )

To Calgary Flames :
RW - Sam Reinhart ( 6.50 @ 1 UFA )

13 Oct 2023 02:36:54
Fair deal.

13 Oct 2023 13:27:07
- this is a fair exchange of value of 2 pending UFAs.

- FLA has 7 left-shot D, and good as Hanifin is, they are unlikely to acquire another LD.

- I think it’s unlikely the cats trade Reinhart after his gutsy performance last year. My guess is that he extends at some point. He and the organization seem like a great mutual fit for each other.

14 Oct 2023 03:52:12
I personally don't see either team doing that near. They're both important players but will depend on the season. Hanifan is gonna be traded almost one hundred percent but I don't see Florida giving up on Reinhart unless they're way out and get really good assets, Hanifan is gonna get probably 3 mil raise and can't see Reinhart get much of a raise also so maybe calgary would be interested for that reason.

12 Oct 2023 23:53:29
To Vancouver Canucks :
RD - Adam Boqvist ( 2.60 @ 2 RFA )

To Columbus Blue Jackets :
RW - Conor Garland ( 4.95 @ 3 UFA )


Boqvist is available, Garland is available. Both teams fill a need.

13 Oct 2023 02:38:01
The Canucks do not need a offensive dman. Boqvist to Montreal makes sense.

13 Oct 2023 13:38:06
- seems very realistic to me👍

- Boqvist would be a great add for any lineup, but MTL is years away from being competitive and is loaded with quality RD prospects. It is unlikely they’d block any development paths for the kids, especially with Reinbacher and Mailloux likely joining the roster next year.

22 Nov 2023 21:16:01
No from Van. Boqvist is struggling a ton. Garland is a very good player despite what you hear. Gar doesn't get powerplay time or PK.

He outscored JT Miller last year at 5v5.

Boqvist is not good right now.

12 Oct 2023 23:38:34
Here we go again since jets resign helle, how about oilers trade for Sarros
Edmonton get Sarros
Nashville gets Campbell and or pick and prospect . Thoughts?

13 Oct 2023 01:10:38
It costs more than a pick and prospect to dump Campbell and return nothing.

13 Oct 2023 02:39:36
If the oilers tank and win the 1st overall pick or if you classify McDavid as a prospect maybe that’d justify Nashville taking one of the worst contract in the NHL and moving a top 5 goalie.

13 Oct 2023 13:42:42
- Campbell is a disastrous signing and has exceptionally negative trade value.

- it would take significant assets to trade him, making a demotion to the minors likely, and a buyout inevitable. The poor guy is simply too fragile to play goal in the NHL.

14 Oct 2023 02:02:25
Campbell i think you have to keep and hope he has a good year. He's worth nothing now but if he plays well, next season he's a lot more tradable.

11 Oct 2023 14:08:54
Canucks: garland retained at 2,750,000 Blue jackets: peeked 2,750,000 gives them there needs

11 Oct 2023 16:03:48
Reason I thought this is because Vancouver is looking for a reliable defender to play with Hughes and Columbus has a log jam on the right side that needs to be cleared up and blue jackets are rumored to want more depth on the wing and garland apparently wants out.

14 Oct 2023 02:05:13
Seems ok, would like to know why everyone disagreed. Garland is a guy can put on any line, peeke is a good young defenseman with extra guys to replace him.

09 Oct 2023 20:31:59
Buffalo:
W. Nylander RW
N. Robertson RW

Toronto:
O. Powers D

09 Oct 2023 23:21:14
Did you change your screen name Pinball?

09 Oct 2023 23:44:26
MEMARCUS: “Les Habitants “ only posts leaf-friendly deals while posing as a Habs fan.

(Kinda funny that someone is so ashamed of their actual team that they pretend to be a fan of another eh? 😁)

10 Oct 2023 01:51:53
memarcusjoe
Nope this isn't me or my post.

11 Oct 2023 03:44:51
As a Habs fan I believe this trade is not overly inclined in one direction. Could be worst, Leafs may need a better sweetener then Robertson 2 get Pow or a pick on top.

11 Oct 2023 13:02:27
Buffalo hangs up the phone and it ain't even close.

Nylander is a 27 year old winger with 1 year left on his contract. Robertson is an unproven, undersized, injury prone 22 year old who has played a total of 82 games split between the AHL/NHL over the past 3 seasons. Power is 20 years old and was drafted #1 overall in 21'. He is a big 6'6 skilled defensemen going into his second pro season. You actually think Buffalo or any team takes an offer like that? Even with Nylander extended it wouldn't be close.

11 Oct 2023 13:36:24
JAnderson: 1 year of Nylander before he hits the market as a UFA & oft-injured former/ small prospect Robertson does not get you Owen Power, regardless of who you cheer for.

Consider:

- Owen Power is only 20, yet had 35 points in 79 games, showing why he was drafted 1st overall.

- At 6-6, 214, the kid is a monster who can skate, and is a +38 in his first 87 NHL games.

Power has come as advertised, and I would suggest that aside from the most die-hard leaf fans that this is not a credible trade offer. BUF has a serious piece in Power, and through years of mediocrity have really built a compelling young core prospect group.

12 Oct 2023 11:57:57
I can not stand William Nylander, however he’s a top 10 winger in the game and that is not debatable. He’s worth at least 3/ 4 of Owen Power’s worth.

12 Oct 2023 15:36:57
You’re taking about a 1st overall potential franchise D for a really good UFA winger.

12 Oct 2023 18:20:06
JAndersonBPF: respectfully, I do not see Nylander as worth 3/ 4 of Owen Power's value, nor do I see Robertson making up the other 1/ 4, based on the reasons included in my reply to you.

12 Oct 2023 20:47:15
@JAndersonBPF the Sabres can just sign Nylander in free agency lol

08 Oct 2023 21:55:57
Lafferty got a 5th, so jarnkrok to Nashville for a 7th round pick. Thoughts?

08 Oct 2023 22:48:02
Jarnkrok can probably get that as well.

09 Oct 2023 04:02:43
My thinking is they are fairly equal though different playing type but jarnkrok is almost double the salary and he has a ten team no trade but doubt Nashville is on the list and has room. hes signed for 3 years and basically the only player they can trade because t. o. gives everyone a ntc. anyone that gets him will be for peanuts like Lafferty.

09 Oct 2023 04:34:21
McCabe to vancouver makes sense but they're up against the cap also and probably would have been with Lafferty, still alot to happen next q4 hours.

11 Oct 2023 13:04:12
I think Jarnkrok can easily get a 3rd, I could see a team like the Avs or Bolts interested in adding a player like him.

08 Oct 2023 14:46:17
Canu ks claim Brayden Pachal or Daniil Miroshenko off waivers from Vegas

05 Oct 2023 19:31:46
Chicago Trades
2nd Round Pick 2024*

Toronto Trades
Jarnkrok

*Chicago decides what 2nd Rounder The Leafs will receive of their 3 at The Draft in 2024.

Clears enough space for a 22 Man Roster on Toronto to get just under The Cap.


Thoughts ?

05 Oct 2023 20:33:41
Large overpay by Chicago. It's difficult to imagine anyone offering up a 2nd for Jarnkrok. It would need to be maybe a 6th or 7th.

05 Oct 2023 23:26:22
maybe a 5th will do it.

06 Oct 2023 02:39:23
What Defensive 20 goal scorers go for a 7th. would give up Hall or Athanesiou for 7th? Please be realistic.

Minimum a 3rd if not with a prospect.

06 Oct 2023 03:15:46
Another leaf that's worth nothing unless there's retained or draftpicks included. Might be able to trade him to a team with cap that requires an overpaid bottom 6.for a 5th-7th, or future considerations.

06 Oct 2023 13:01:20
- the leafs are 2.9M over the cap, and Jarnkrok makes 2.1M. To allow for in-season call-ups the leafs will need to clear about 3.9M.

- a rebuilding team like CHI wants to acquire as many picks and prospects as possible. Trading for a 32 year-old with term isn't what rebuilding teams do.

- Jarnkrok is in year 2 of a 4 year deal. He is out-producing his contract, and if the leafs really wanted to get rid of him I'm sure a contender would take a serious look at him. He's a positive asset, but not for a rebuilding team. He has a 10-team NTC so he'll have some input on where he goes, if he goes.

06 Oct 2023 15:58:44
Chickenfoot
When Muzzin, MMurray are put on LTIR and NRobertson is sent to The AHL The Leafs are over The Cap by exactly 1,272.283.
So your calculations are way off.

06 Oct 2023 20:28:29
So how is a defensive minded forward capable (and doing it) of getting 20 goals worth only a 5th? Especially at just over 2 mill a year. The Leaf hate is just as real as the Pinball pro Leaf bias.

07 Oct 2023 18:04:46
Ugh, jarnkrok can easily be replaced so worth nothing. Hes capable of 20 goals because he did it once and he's 32. Not room for growth. At least he's one of 3 players they can trade. They'll get nothing because its getting close to cap compliant time.

07 Oct 2023 18:08:02
And whole premise is ridiculous, chicago not giving up draft picks for a plug, young guys will be fine.

09 Oct 2023 05:32:02
PINBALL: those salary figures came straight from Capfriendly and were 100% accurate. As for Robertson, you can’t demote an injured player to the farm. He simply stays on the IR until he’s healthy.

09 Oct 2023 12:57:18
Chickenfoot
Now Toronto is 1,752.717 under The Cap, and Robertson isn't injured he played in the preseason and he is waiver exempt, and was demoted to The Marlies.
So again false information.

10 Oct 2023 00:35:48
PINBALL:

- Robertson and his shoulder injury skated with the leafs second group as of Sept. 21, and he was sent down earlier today, which is Oct. 9th.

- my post is time-stamped above as 7 hours plus before your post, and it was 100% accurate when posted.

- I endeavour to be accurate, but I’m happy to own it when I’m wrong. I am happy to confirm that I am quoting a reliable source in cap friendly at the time of my post.

- I will be happy to let facts speak for themselves, and I would put my record of what I’ve put forward against your own for anyone to judge, any day of the week.

- I’m not sure if you can tell, but I am taking great pains to reply to you respectfully. Regardless, I am accurate, and you do you.

05 Oct 2023 15:21:59
Chicago Trades
CMurphy

Toronto Trades
Jarnkrok
Brodie
MJones

Thoughts ?

05 Oct 2023 19:07:22
Murphy is one player chicago wont trade, his role is he plays and helps develop young guys so he's untouchable. Plus 2 pieces chicago has absolutely no need or want. Brodie is a fine middle defenseman. Murphy is cheaper which works for the leafs but not chicago.

06 Oct 2023 13:09:32
- as Shoots said, this helps the leafs out of a jam, but a rebuilding team is looking for picks and prospects, not 3 guys that are 32-33 years old.

- Jones is the leaf goalie most likely to hit waivers, and Tampa will definitely be scouring waiver lists for a stopgap, veteran goalie to help fill in while Vasilevsky convalesces.

08 Oct 2023 21:45:47
And now Jones is on waivers so free for anyone.

04 Oct 2023 17:30:56
Nylander, Liljgren and a 2nd

For

Pesce, Jarvis

Nylander could play 2nd line centre which is a dire need for the Canes.

04 Oct 2023 19:01:24
I think there is definitely a deal to be made between CAR & TOR, and this seems like a reasonable proposition given CAR's past interest in adding Nylander.

Two things to consider:

- leafs don't have a 2nd to trade in any of the next 3 years.

- this would put CAR 2.5M over the cap, so a 3rd team would be required to facilitate a move like this.

04 Oct 2023 21:18:10
I would think there is less than no chance that Jarvis is made available for a one year rental.

01 Oct 2023 00:18:01
3way Trade


Ott- 3rd pick mtl 2024

Habs- Joseph


Chi-

Gallagher-ott 1st 2024-mtl 1st 2025
Barron- ylonen

Anaheim or Philly maybe?

Ottawa clears 3m for pinto
Cost them to swap a late first for a early 3rd

Mtl-take Joseph contract, 1st mid pick in 2025 3 Rd pick 2024 and Habs still have cgy one, and give two b minus prospect because have too much contract

Chicago?Anaheim? Philly maybe?

01 Oct 2023 17:40:18
seems to be alot for Joseph. one veteran, two younger and a first round?

03 Oct 2023 17:22:16
If I'm reading this correctly it seems like MTL is trading some major assets for Joseph, so it's a quick no from MTL.

Joseph is as unspectacular as it gets, so beyond OTT's need to clear him from the books, I'm not sure why MTL would give up so many assets to help OTT get cap relief?

03 Oct 2023 22:31:34
Ottawa isn't exchanging a 1st and Joseph for a 3rd and nothing. might as well make the trade pinto and joseph for the 3rd.