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08 Oct 2019 22:54:41
When Hyman and Dermott get back from the injured list.

Calgary Trades
Bennett
RAndersson

Toronto Trades
Hyman
Dermott
Holl

Thoughts ?

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08 Oct 2019 23:57:55
Ya right. that's a hard pass from the Flames.
Andersson > > Hyman
Bennett > Dermott, Holl

09 Oct 2019 00:40:13
Remember how nylander missed training camp and what 2-3 months of hockey and he wasnt even hurt. He sucked and bad

Well isn't the same going to happen to both Hyman and dermott. I don't know what everyone expects but if you think both will just jump into this league without any training camp and in mid season and just do what they do guess again.

Dont know if bennett and andersson will solve any problems the leafs have but i'm down with discussing hyman and dermott deals as i do think they'll be too rusty to even make an impact.

08 Oct 2019 23:47:02
Huge no from Calgary.

09 Oct 2019 05:34:47
Calgary hangs up immediately.

08 Oct 2019 00:47:02
Huge no from Calgary.

09 Oct 2019 06:55:47
Calgary hangs up immediately.

09 Oct 2019 19:47:56
In what world is Bennett worth more then Dermott? I think this deal is closer then one might think. Of its no from Calgary it's not because of value, it's because of the chemistry the players already have in they're team.

10 Oct 2019 03:08:42
Rasmus Andersson is the most valuable piece in the trade.

10 Oct 2019 17:36:26
Hyman on the flames 4th line, Dermott on their bottom pair, Holl a perfect fit for what they need on the Kansas city Mavericks. flames really should consider lol.

08 Oct 2019 16:14:06
Habs: Horvat and Stecher

Canucks: Drouin, Weber and first round pick.

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08 Oct 2019 16:20:46
Horvat isn't great, but he's worth more than that entire package from Montreal on his own.

08 Oct 2019 16:29:29
I'd rather keep Weber, Drouin and the 1st.

08 Oct 2019 16:43:08
Both teams say no. Montreal first. Weber way too important to that team. Him and Price are keys to their success right now.

08 Oct 2019 17:29:13
Um what. Vancouver easily says no. Do some research on Horvat.

08 Oct 2019 17:29:23
I keep saying it. sounding like a broken record, but don't give up on Drouin yet. and I agree with what Yupp says.
Also, that 1st round pick, pretty sure will be another lottery pick.

08 Oct 2019 19:59:37
And Vancouvers D is looking pretty nice with Edler/ Myers and Tanev/ Hughes. Trading their second line center and leader when their center depth isn’t that nice for a D they don’t really really need. They would have way too big a hole and weakened at center if they did this. And Montreal would have way too big a joke at D if they did this.
Both team says no. This is not a well thought out trade for team needs at all.

08 Oct 2019 20:27:35
Where do the nucks get the salary cap space from?
Not even close to realistic talent wise, value wise, cap wise AND Habs give a first round to boot?

Not even tweakable to make this realistic.

09 Oct 2019 03:52:02
Memarcusjoe gets more full of rubbish with every post.

09 Oct 2019 01:20:04
If Habs don't make playoffs this season and go on a deep run, expect Weber to request a trade next summer. He recently stated that he'd like a serious shot at winning the cup before he's done playing. I believe Price iterated the same sentiment recently. Both of their windows are closing rapidly. So, now would be a good time to trade either or both players and get a decent return.

09 Oct 2019 06:52:04
If Habs don't make playoffs this season and go on a deep run, expect Weber to request a trade next summer. He recently stated that he'd like a serious shot at winning the cup before he's done playing. I believe Price iterated the same sentiment recently. Both of their windows are closing rapidly. So, now would be a good time to trade either or both players and get a decent return.

09 Oct 2019 06:54:02
Memarcusjoe gets more full of rubbish with every post.

09 Oct 2019 19:48:40
Drouin has the potential to be better then Horvat so no from Mtl.

08 Oct 2019 13:10:57
Oilers: Russel , Bear + 2nd round pick (maybe + a Ahl player like maximov with potential)

Jets: Ehlers

Jets get 2 dmen that can make the roster , bear have proven that he can play at nhl level and have great potential to be a good offensive RD


Oilers get a Top 6 LW to play with RnH and neal

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08 Oct 2019 13:53:08
Lol. Not close. A cap dump, a meh prospect and a second doesn't get you anywhere near a first line winger.

08 Oct 2019 14:00:46
I would do Lipon for that though. It gives the Oilers a player that is easily top 6 for them.

08 Oct 2019 14:04:32
. But you would need to keep Russel.

08 Oct 2019 15:29:51
Another dumb post trying to rob the Jets.

08 Oct 2019 15:44:54
how about

nurse, puljijarvi and Bear

for

ehlers, pollman.

08 Oct 2019 16:02:47
No thanks from Winnipeg. Nurse is going to want a big raise next year and isn't worth giving up Ehlers for.

08 Oct 2019 16:03:57
With Larson out the Oilers aren’t trading Nurse unless it’s in a deal for an upgrade on D.
Russell would be a top pairing on the Jets right now tho boys 😂😂.

08 Oct 2019 16:04:59
Nurse > Ehlers & Poolman

08 Oct 2019 16:13:39
im getting 2 differant stories here

either nurse is greater than ehlers
or
ehlers is greater than nurse

cant have both

so
nurse straight up for ehlers.

08 Oct 2019 16:18:29
Nurse is a low end second pairing guy. Definitely won't get Ehlers straight up. Puljujarvi holds zero value for the Jets and Bear is meh.

08 Oct 2019 16:44:26
If Nurse was on the Jets he would be one of the best top pairing guys in the league to Marcus.

08 Oct 2019 16:50:47
I don't think so yupp. Jets fans rate players objectively. Homers like yourself, see Nurse as a god.

08 Oct 2019 16:52:04
At least you don't deny Nurse is a low end second pairing defenseman at best.

08 Oct 2019 17:34:52
is ehlers considered a top line guy to jets fans?

this is where i'm confused

thought this deal was a 2nd line forward for a 2nd pairing D

once they tranfer to their new teams they both become 1st line/ first pairing guys

am i missing something here?

08 Oct 2019 18:33:14
You might understand this better craigger. Would you trade Nylander for Nurse? No, you wouldn't and we all agree that Ehlers is better than Nylander and also has a better contract. Nurse simply isn't good enough for the Jets to consider moving Ehlers for.

08 Oct 2019 18:52:33
And Morrisey is a number 1D I’m guessing? I’d say Nurse and Morrisey are pretty comparable.

08 Oct 2019 19:30:45
Lol. Ebs. Nurse is nowhere near the same quality as Morrissey. Morrissey has played and excels on the top pairing. Nurse can't play top pairing and is best suited to low end 4D duties. Nurse is basically Zach Bogosian without the injury history.

08 Oct 2019 20:18:04
Lmao. No where do I say he is a god. You’re trying to put words in my mouth to try and push your homer idea. And I bash my team constantly, unlike yourself.
You should just like Trudeau. Lol.
Ehlers isn’t better than Nylander or Nurse. But you're a waste of time to even try having a conversation with.
Hope you have a great day tho little guy.

08 Oct 2019 20:37:50
Trade talent wise would work if Jones, Legasson or Samkarov were in the mix instead of Bear.

Cap wise, Oilers I don't' think have the cap space to do this unless there was 1M retention by Winnipeg, or Manning was traded instead of Bear.

Both teams are suffering from thin D's right now, so 2 dmen out of Edm, 0 back seems a little unlikely at this time. Russel would really help the Jets thin D for sure and Ehlers would help Edm's forward lines. But trade with Bear favors Winnipeg too heavily and the cap problem exists.

08 Oct 2019 20:39:05
I bet Nurse averaged more ice time per game and had more points than Morrissey last year.

08 Oct 2019 20:52:35
Now you're feelings are hurt yupp? You're the one who was trying to pass Nurse off as a top pairing defenseman. Talk about homerism. I agree though you are far too biased to have a good debate with.

08 Oct 2019 21:13:20
The only reason Nurse had more minutes is because Edmonton had an awful defense and Nurse was slightly better than the other crud they had. Minutes don't make a player top pairing quality. Ability does.

08 Oct 2019 22:03:08
Nurse has Klefbom to compete with for ice time on the left side. Who does Morrisey have? Maybe he had more minutes because he plays both special teams. A D doesn’t just get lucky and get 40 points. It may have been a good year for him but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him back in the 35 point ish range.

And settle down I’m not saying Nurse is better. Just like Yup didn’t say Nurse is a godly number 1. But to say there not even close shows your homerism. The only thing you can do is put words in other people’s mouths.

08 Oct 2019 22:41:01
First of Nylander > ehlers everyday

Why do you keep saying Oilers d is bad?
Jets got a bottom 5 d core right now

I mean even Ottawa got better d lineup than jets got against penguins tonight.

08 Oct 2019 23:06:37
Nurse and morrisey are basically the same guy same age and handed same advanced stats

Only thing is nurse is bigger much bigger

Nurse is also a bit more offensive and hasn't had the rhd that morrisey had to develop beside. Guess this year morrisey will get to play with no help so we will see how he really does. If you don't want to help morrisey with a partner enjoy the watch. your loss. trading offece, which is winnipegs strength, for defence help would be wise but hey whatever

And yes i'd do nylander for nurse last season. however, now leafs don't truely need a dman so i wouldn't do deal now.

Ill ask you this memarcusjoe. if morrisey was on edmonton would you trade ehlers for him?

09 Oct 2019 05:42:09
Nurse worth way more then ehlers, how is this a conversation? Craziness.

09 Oct 2019 00:55:33
Nurse is another example of the Oilers mishandling a young player. Due to their traditionally weak defense the Oilers rushed Nurse and expect him to be their #1 d-man before he was ready. He makes way too many mistakes over and over again that a true #1 doesn't do. Also he will expect a large contract next year that he doesn't deserve. Having said that he's the best d-man the Oilers have.

09 Oct 2019 02:00:57
If Morrissey was on Edmonton, yes I would trade Ehlers for him. Nurse isn't the same quality though. Nurse has terrible hockey sense which keeps him as a #4D, Oilers fans always complain about him and we're only guaranteed of having him for one season.

Morrissey is a top pairing D, has hockey smarts and is all around better than Nurse. So, it's not a good comparison. Especially when you throw in Morrissey's contract compared to Nurse's.

Then when you consider that Ehlers has a 6 year contract at a bargain rate and Nurse has one year left on his contract before asking for a big raise and is also LD, which isn't a long term need. All this makes it makes it pretty easy to turn down for the Jets.

I know panic trades like this one are fun to discuss, but think of it this way. Would Nurse make the Jets more of a Cup contender? No, definitely not. The Jets are in for a rough year this season, so wasting excellent, young assets, signed long term, on a marginal upgrade that won't make or break the season, is terrible asset management. Ehlers will be much more valuable to the Jets long term than one year of Nurse.

09 Oct 2019 06:51:33
Nurse is another example of the Oilers mishandling a young player. Due to their traditionally weak defense the Oilers rushed Nurse and expect him to be their #1 d-man before he was ready. He makes way too many mistakes over and over again that a true #1 doesn't do. Also he will expect a large contract next year that he doesn't deserve. Having said that he's the best d-man the Oilers have.

09 Oct 2019 06:53:57
If Morrissey was on Edmonton, yes I would trade Ehlers for him. Nurse isn't the same quality though. Nurse has terrible hockey sense which keeps him as a #4D, Oilers fans always complain about him and we're only guaranteed of having him for one season.

Morrissey is a top pairing D, has hockey smarts and is all around better than Nurse. So, it's not a good comparison. Especially when you throw in Morrissey's contract compared to Nurse's.

Then when you consider that Ehlers has a 6 year contract at a bargain rate and Nurse has one year left on his contract before asking for a big raise and is also LD, which isn't a long term need. All this makes it makes it pretty easy to turn down for the Jets.

I know panic trades like this one are fun to discuss, but think of it this way. Would Nurse make the Jets more of a Cup contender? No, definitely not. The Jets are in for a rough year this season, so wasting excellent, young assets, signed long term, on a marginal upgrade that won't make or break the season, is terrible asset management. Ehlers will be much more valuable to the Jets long term than one year of Nurse.

09 Oct 2019 06:56:09
Nurse worth way more then ehlers, how is this a conversation? Craziness.

09 Oct 2019 09:58:18
since he started in the league morrisey has had a top 4 RHD to play with. Buff, trouba or myers take your pick. Every time morrisey hit the ice 1 of these guys where on it with him.

Lets see if morrisey truely is what you all write he is without a partner.

Nurse and morriseys advanced stas are identical and that's with morrisey having someone capable of holding their own every time he went on the ice on the right side. Say bye bye to morrisey looking half descent.

09 Oct 2019 12:27:24
Nurse signed the same bridge deal as Morrissey so there’s a good chance he signs a similar long term deal. Also he’s an RFA so your not guaranteed him for only a year.
Nurse played all of his junior years and when he was brought in he definitely wasn’t expected to be a number 1. Why do you make this stuff up? Morrissey played a whole 50 more AHL games than Nurse. Not a lot.
And yes Island Jet he makes mistakes, no one said he was a true number 1. Lol.

09 Oct 2019 16:04:31
Lol. You’re such an idiot Marcus 😂😂.
Kinda make me laugh tho, at you not with you. It’s been pretty sad for a while now my man.

10 Oct 2019 09:39:15
Marcus just keeps digging his own grave with his comments. People can clearly see you are a complete homer and call others Homer's when you clearly lack knowledge of nhl and only watch your own team and say everyone else is garbage. Nurse would get ehlers+ he's a 2nd line guy at best.

07 Oct 2019 22:46:03
Wpg: Hellebuyck
Wpg city: Two large pylons

Two large pylons can save the jets some cap space and make a better contribution. Hellebuyck's contract would eat away at WPG's city budget for road repair after winter but he scoops so many pucks out from the back of the net, scooping asphalt shouldn't be hard.

Thoughts?

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07 Oct 2019 23:19:31
I think you're someone that doesn't watch much hockey.

08 Oct 2019 01:55:28
Hellebuyck is worth at least a first.

08 Oct 2019 02:28:02
Winnipeg has no interest in trading Hellebucyk at this time.

08 Oct 2019 14:46:33
I mean it’s not all his fault their dcore is very weak.

07 Oct 2019 22:25:16
WPG: Laine
NYI: Barzal

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07 Oct 2019 23:17:35
The Islanders won't be trading Barzal and the Jets won't be trading Laine.

07 Oct 2019 23:18:29
Why would NYI do this?

08 Oct 2019 01:08:56
Lol. NYI laughs.

08 Oct 2019 01:55:45
No from NYI.

08 Oct 2019 02:37:26
No from the isle.

08 Oct 2019 03:19:16
Lol no from isles

08 Oct 2019 03:20:42
Barzal>>Laine.

08 Oct 2019 16:04:41
Marcus, are you saying if the Islanders GM called up and offered Barzel for Laine, You would say no?

09 Oct 2019 19:30:56
I’d take Laine over Barzel.

11 Oct 2019 22:27:48
I wouldn't.

07 Oct 2019 20:48:46
TO L.A-Laine
TO WPG-Doughty
Jets get a top pair defenceman to replace buff(if he retires) and doughty gets a chance to win a cup
LA gets a young sniper and Laine gets a chance to play top line minutes.

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07 Oct 2019 21:39:14
Lol. Not even in a Kings fan's wildest dreams. Doughty is great and all, but he's 29 and is being paid $11 million/ season until he is 36. Plus the Jets just extended Laine, they won't trade him in a knee jerk, panic trade as you are proposing.

07 Oct 2019 21:49:16
Doughty say no.

07 Oct 2019 22:50:16
As much as I like Doughty, he will be long retired, over the hill, while Laine will be scoring 50, flirting with 60 for years to come.

Laine had a rough 2nd half last year, so many are questioning him.
I will guarantee he will score the most Goals of anyone on his draft class. I'm not saying points, or that he will be the best player, but as a goal scorer, he will be # 1.

08 Oct 2019 01:57:45
Pulock is not far from Laine for worth.

08 Oct 2019 02:56:00
Sosa he could but I wouldn’t be willing to guarantee it with him currently being 2nd to Matthews. Definitely could but He’s not blowing Matthews outta the water.

08 Oct 2019 14:52:40
Laine is 22 and Doughty is like 35 that’s a huge no from Winnipeg.

08 Oct 2019 17:36:51
Doughty is like same age as pietrangelo and stamkos.08 draft

older but not old.

09 Oct 2019 22:23:13
Agree with jbs, sosa. In most draft classes laine could run away with it, but him and matthews will probably always be close.

07 Oct 2019 14:48:33
Winnipeg:

Nikolaj Ehlers

New York Islanders:

Josh Ho-Sang
Ryan Pulock
2nd round pick 2020

Winnipeg acquires a RHD to 'replace' Buff until he decides on his playing future, Ho-Sang gets a change of scenery and a chance to develop his game and potentially earn top 6 minutes playing with Laine

NYI acquires an top linemate to match up with Barzal

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07 Oct 2019 15:24:34
I posted this exact trade a few days ago.

07 Oct 2019 15:36:05
Didn't someone just post this trade a day or so ago? It would be a trade I would consider, but I doubt the Jets have any intentions of moving Ehlers. Ho-Sang could be dropped from the deal as he doesn't hold any value and I doubt TNSE would want to get mixed up with him.

07 Oct 2019 16:44:06
Bring on the endless dumb trades trying to get the Jets to sell low on their players for any d-men.

07 Oct 2019 22:51:21
Why is that a dumb trade islandjet.? Pulock is no slouch.

08 Oct 2019 01:58:03
Pulock= Laine.

08 Oct 2019 03:22:02
It’s a dumb trade because the Jets are involved. In memercusjoe’s mind, Ehlers nets you Dahlin+.

08 Oct 2019 03:31:35
Yeah it's actually the islanders who should be saying no to this one.

08 Oct 2019 16:06:10
This is a great trade for both teams. But the Jets nosed guys here would want Barzal back for Ehlers. Lol.

07 Oct 2019 14:40:54
canes trade pesce
jets trade stanley, second 2020, conditional 3rd 2021

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07 Oct 2019 14:54:25
I can see why the Jets would do it, but why would Carolina make this trade?

07 Oct 2019 16:49:49
The Jets are better off waiting until November to make a trade for a d-man with a team that has them and needs a forward. This way both teams get what they need. Doing a trade now would be trading from a position of weakness and they would have to give up too much for too little.

07 Oct 2019 17:01:02
Islandjet, are you saying this is too much to give for Pesce?

07 Oct 2019 21:48:16
Not saying this is too much for Pesce, but Logan Stanley is actually looking good.

07 Oct 2019 21:55:25
Here i thought pesce was worth a top 6 forward. that's what's being spread around the leafs site the last couple months.

If a mid 1st round defenceman pick and a 2nd and an unknown conditional 3rd gets you pesce than i guess replace stanleys name with liljegrens name and leafs get hemselves a rhd to play with reilly. done.

 


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