NHL rumours 6

27 Nov 2024 19:14:18
Chi: Jones, teravainen nyr: kreider,trouba....ny said they want a hockey trade. Cap hit nearly the same.jones is superior to trouba, teravainen off to a slow start but is 3 years younger then kreider. Chicago does this for less term for when they need to pay the young kids.

28 Nov 2024 09:54:17
I think there’s a fit to be had between NYR & CHI, but CHI will need young players or picks. Trouba and Kreider at 30 & 33 aren’t the right fit for a rebuilding team.

Perhaps Trouba and some sweeteners to dump his contract, as long as CHI isn’t on his 15-team no trade list👍.

28 Nov 2024 13:36:59
I get what you're saying cf, I think getting 4 years of Jones for two years of trouba is worth it in the long run for chicago. Trade clause have to be worked out. Im chicago fan so trying to figure out how to get rid of Jones contract. He doesn't seem to fit the rebuild, but still playing 25 mins on a terrible team. not when Injured. Trouba is on a sharp decline but a 230 pound shooter would really help chicago.

28 Nov 2024 13:42:13
They are giving 2 30 year old for 2 slightly older players with shorter contracts was the basis.

29 Nov 2024 09:55:11
I hear ya Shoots, and it’s a pretty clever fit.

Since the shakeup tends to favour the better team, I’ll say that CHI gets a prospect or a 2nd for their trouble.

In particular, the swap of Trouba for Jones is pretty exciting for the Rangers. CHI would also be able to make an attractive trade for Kreider with some retention you’d have to think. This is a pretty clever fit Shoots🤜.

27 Nov 2024 18:51:26
Col: mittelstadt chi: mrazek

01 Dec 2024 04:19:50
Seems less likely now.

26 Nov 2024 11:40:04
Montreal
2024 2nd
2024 4th

Edmonton
Savard.

26 Nov 2024 14:12:12
This is unintentionally hilarious.

The 2024 draft is over genius. Your depth of hockey knowledge is unrivalled! 😂 (EDM has another 4th in 2026 if that helps. )

How many accounts is this for you on here now, 3? Why bother? It’s already an on-line forum, so why hide?

Have a great day good Sir👍.

26 Nov 2024 08:49:37
Columbus
Matheson 50%

Montreal
Top 5 protected 1st 2024
Jiricek.

26 Nov 2024 10:23:13
- CLB hangs up and blocks Montreal’s phone number.

26 Nov 2024 12:12:10
This may be the most lop-sided homer trade ever. Matheson doesn't get you either Jiricek or the pick 1x1, and to suggest that begets you both is mind boggling.

26 Nov 2024 14:05:56
Lago: agreed. Matheson is the wrong age too for a rebuilding team. But it’s intended to be a ridiculous trade.

This looks like the 3rd burner account for a semi-regular on here with an axe to grind. Gee…I wonder who it could be…he’s just such a clever person and a master of disguise…🤣.

28 Nov 2024 02:00:47
To do 50%, you add, not the other team. Matheson might get a 1st 50% at the deadline if a very desperate team wants him very bad. Montreal stll add a top prospect for retaining. Let's not kid ourselves, savard may get you A 2nd without retention.

26 Nov 2024 04:03:44
Columbus Blue Jackets
- David Jiricek

Detroit Red Wings
- Michael Rasmussen
- Shai Buium
- 2024 2nd round pick

25 Nov 2024 00:45:07
I'm trying a pinball trade today. Toronto: marner. Chicago: Smith,maroon,Hayes, Toronto 1st round pick

25 Nov 2024 17:00:42
Good one, but it will fly over pinballs head.

24 Nov 2024 15:36:18
Nashville Trades
O'Reilly
McCarron

Toronto Trades
Kampf
Jarnkrok
Holmberg
NRobertson
1st Round Pick 2026

Very similar to The O'Reilly trade The Leafs did with The Blues a few years back, no salary retaining in this proposal just a good old fashion trade.


Thoughts ?

24 Nov 2024 23:16:40
Even if orally is available for trade he has upped his value since that trade. Right now he seems to be playing as a high end 2c.

25 Nov 2024 01:24:35
Nashville declines. If they move O’Reilly they’ll do much better than this. They’ll get a nice package of a high-end prospect for their rebuild, a 1st and a 2nd.

This trade, predictably, is generous to the leafs and ignores what NSH would need in return to make such a trade work.

25 Nov 2024 12:32:19
Chickenfoot
Of course you dissected as O'Reilly being more than he is and The Leaf Players being less than their value.
Am I surprised by your response?
Absolutely not as this is your thing no matter what I post.
Cheers.

25 Nov 2024 16:34:24
@Chckenfoot so you’re telling me Malioux, protected 1st and 2nd would be a fair trade for O’Rielly in a vacuum?

If anyone offers them a “High end prospect”, 1st and 2nd then the Preds GM would drive him to the airport personally.

26 Nov 2024 03:51:42
Average pinball trade:

Everything the Leafs have on the trade block in exchange for a forward.

26 Nov 2024 10:21:55
- Pinball, why post one-sided, homer trades like this if you’re just going to whine? Embarrassing.

- People don’t have a bias against your team. Learn the lesson here: your trades are always inordinately heavily weighted towards your team, with little or no thought give as to what another team might need.

- IF O’Reilly were to move; as a Conn Smythe-winning center he’d be immensely valuable for a cup run if slotted correctly in a 2C situation. He’d bring a healthy return.

- a 1st is a given, but you didn’t include compensation for the cap dump that Kampf currently is.

- Robertson’s trade value has been covered. He’s not a trade “asset”. He’s an insignificant throw-in who will be lucky to get an NHL contract next year. (Is this news to anyone else? )

- Holmberg is 25 with just over a hundred NHL games. He is what he is, but he’s not a coveted trade asset.

Quantity doesn’t equal quality, and as Tom Hanks famously said, “there’s no crying in baseball! ” (Or a hockey trade forum. )

26 Nov 2024 15:57:21
Chickenfoot
As usual you're 💯 wrong.
Cheers.

26 Nov 2024 19:00:27
Justin Williams won a conn Smyth that doesn’t mean he’s worth all of that. O’Rielly is closer to Williams age than Bedard. O’Rielly we’ll be retired in 3 years he is nothing at this point besides a mediocre 3C who’s elite in the Dot. He has value but if Nashville is offered a 1st from any team they should take that and play their younger guys imo.

27 Nov 2024 04:30:43
VBB…. or whatever name you’re going by tonight…are you okay?

- Williams is 43, and in the Hall of Fame. O’Reilly is still playing. They’re 10 years apart…what are you talking about? Do you think the market values are the same in this season as a decade ago? 😂

- not sure how Bedard got into this conversation…. or Williams for that matter. Or why you asked what I’m saying about a “Mailloux trade”, which I’ve never mentioned on this site. Not sure what your deal is, maybe it’s time to start a few more burner accounts on here? 🤣.

28 Nov 2024 03:43:55
If O’Reilly turns it around and has a decent season he might get a 1st but good chance it’s only a 2nd IMO.

22 Nov 2024 20:48:23
Granlund 50% retained to Toronto for Kampf, Cowan and Robertson

22 Nov 2024 23:56:06
Cowan would be a tough pill to swallow.

22 Nov 2024 05:09:14
Edm; skinner, Kane, 2nd ... Chi: hall 50%. Murphy......Halls old home, Kane might be good for Bedard if he's healthy ever. Murphy also injured alot. But of all works out Edmonton better defense and chicago hopefully better offense.

22 Nov 2024 05:28:42
This one gives Edmonton extra cap to use. Hall immediately replaces top 9
with chemistry could be top line. And top 4 de. Chicago eats cap and gets a tryout with kane.

22 Nov 2024 06:01:08
For chickenfoot. Chicago also sends sj. a 4th for 1.5m or a 3rd if desperate. So brings hall to 1.5m. Maybe? Murphy at a very reasonable price signed through next year. I think could be good for both teams in terms of needs. Chicago is last so can wait for Kane. Edmonton can get immediate defense.

22 Nov 2024 00:34:34
Montreal trade with Carolina
Mtl sends: Mike Matheson and Kirby dach and Florida or Calgary 1st round
To Carolina fo r Martin Necas
That is if Necas doesn’t want to be I. Carolina for long term
If only Kent would of drafted mishkov instead of reinbacher 2026 roster would look like this
Slavkosky Suzuki caufield
Mishkov Necas Demidov
Laine hage Newhook
Anderson evans Gallagher
Defence
Hutson ekblad ( free agent)
Guhle Mailloux
Xhejaj struble

22 Nov 2024 05:23:17
With the season necas is having they'll not trade him. But if he does a not signing warning not a bad pitch but upped his trade value huge from a few months ago.

21 Nov 2024 19:10:22
3 Team Trade Proposal.

Anaheim
Acquires NRobertson from The Leafs in exchange for Retains 50% of Granlund's expiring Contract

San Jose
Acquires Kampf and The Leafs 2026 1st Round Pick.

Toronto
Acquires Granlund from The Sharks.



Thoughts ?

21 Nov 2024 22:15:23
- SJ gets a 1st for taking on the Kampf deal. (This is proper compensation, kudos👍)

- if I’m reading your post correctly, ANA gets Robertson, but no compensation for retaining 50% of the Granlund contract? (Leafs add a decent pick or ANA declines to be involved in helping the leafs with their salary cap issues. )

- SJ would accept the 1sr for the cost of taking on Kampf’s 3 years @ 2.4M/ season, but where is the trade asset for Granlund and his expiring contract?

You have the start of a fair trade, but additional assets would be required by ANA & SJ. It is incomplete as-is.

22 Nov 2024 01:08:01
Chickenfoot
Anaheim gets NRobertson for retaining 2.5 million of Granlund's expiring Contract.

22 Nov 2024 16:07:34
Pinball this trade only really benefits the Leafs. They have to give up a better player than Robertson but you would never include any player that a team would actually want in any of your always proLeaf trade proposals.
Still you're always entertaining.

23 Nov 2024 01:53:57
Robertson is a contract, not an asset. He’ll be lucky to play in the NHL next year. He is not compensation, he is not positive value. That’s why he’s in most of your trades.