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27 Feb 2024 14:18:34
TRADE #1:

EDM Trades:

- Gagner
- 5th (2025)

MTL:

- Future Considerations


TRADE #2:

ANA Trades:

- Henrique (50% retention)

EDM TRADES:

- Holloway
- 2nd ('24)
- 3rd ('24)



- EDM trades Gagner's expiring deal to MTL to free up a little cap space.

- MTL gets a 5th for accommodating EDM.

- ANA gets 2 pieces for pending RFA Henrique, plus a 3rd for retention.

- EDM gets their third line center & depth in the bottom 6.

Chickenfoot

1.) 27 Feb 2024 16:51:49
@Chickenfoot think you meant UFA for Henrique. Regardless though I think the value is there to land Henrique. What an add that would be for the Oilers too. Holloway doesn't seem to be a part of the Oilers future and if they can add a guy like Henrique for the playoffs I think they will be better for it.


2.) 27 Feb 2024 21:05:45
Holloway will be apart of the Oilers future unless he’s traded for a big piece. The 2nd and 3rd might be enough for Henrique. I think he’s a good target for the Oil.


3.) 27 Feb 2024 21:26:29
MG: you are right that I was wrong?

I’m not a big fan of the Oilers’ more notable prospects, but a change of scenery going to a less competitive team can be a boost for some. I would be curious to see him get a shot in ANA, and who doesn’t like some California sun this time of year!


4.) 28 Feb 2024 01:02:31
@Ebsolutely you are overvaluing Holloway big time. A great comparison value wise for him is Nic Robertson. Many people, myself included, don't see Robertson as a trade piece that moves the needle much at all for a big piece. And yet he has more goals, assists, and points than Holloway career wise all while playing less games.


5.) 28 Feb 2024 18:23:33
I didn’t even really put a value on Holloway, I could just see a 2nd and 3rd being enough for Henrique. Holloway plays a big fast game that translates easily to a bottom 6 player, but he still has potential to be a top 6 guy. I think Holloway moves the needle quite a bit in a trade today, if he doesn’t prove much by next year then I’ll agree his value will dip a lot.


 

 

09 Feb 2024 19:43:49
TAM Trades:

- Howard
- 1st ('26)
- 2nd ('25)
- 3rd ('24)
- Myers (UFA/minor cap dump)
- Fleury (
- Shalagin (Unsigned)

OTT Trades:

- Chychrun
- Tarasenko (UFA/50% retention)


- TAM pays a price to replace Sergachev
- TAM includes some contracts to create contract space.
- Sergachev's injury creates the need and the cap space to do it.
- TAM will need to send one waiver exempt player to make the 23-man roster limit.
- OTT gets picks and the Bolts top prospect
- OTT recycles 2 guys not in their future plans for futures.

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1.) 14 Feb 2024 18:04:34
So much wrong with this I don't know where to start?

For one who's Howard? Are you talking former Detroit Goalie Howard? If so Ottawa don't need a goalie.

For 2 Tampas picks aren't high enough to mean anything here

For 3 Chychrun ain't going anywhere, Chabot is more likely to be traded than Chychrun is, he litteraly already put the kaboosh on those dumb rumors.

And for 4 why is Ottawa retaining anything, let alone 50% on Taresenko when they are already taking back cap hit on Myers and Howard (if it is the goalie)? Ottawa don't have the space for that.


2.) 15 Feb 2024 01:39:07
Hahahaha…Howard is Tampa’s top prospect, not a goalie. ?.


 

 

02 Feb 2024 18:33:34
LA Trades:

- Rittich
- 2nd ('25)
- 4th ('26)

MTL Trades:

- Allen



- LA has Talbot as their starter, and desperately needs help beyond what Rittich can offer.

- Allen can help this year and next, and because the G supply is limited and demand is high, he brings a higher return due to market conditions.



"MTL still encourages teams needing cap relief to bring their garbage pending UFA contracts for some sweet, sweet cap relief at OUTRAGEOUS asset costs."

: )

Chickenfoot

1.) 02 Feb 2024 22:24:08
I would like to see a little more. If the Kings ( which they do) are in desperate need for a other goalie., well id take advantage of that and ask for a little more. Would rather not have Big Save Dave in the deal.


2.) 02 Feb 2024 23:18:18
I think rittich is on a roll and Talbot is a bit on a downfall.


3.) 02 Feb 2024 23:25:27
This would be an above-market return.


4.) 03 Feb 2024 22:13:35
makes a ton of sense for the Kings, they need more stability in net


 

 

02 Feb 2024 18:03:15
NYI Trade:

- Matt Martin
- 1st Round Pick ('26)


MTL Trade:

- Savard



- NYI only have 2 healthy RD, and Savard is playoff-tested, big, and still has plenty shot-blocking & timely scoring in him to help them this year and next.

- MTL gets a second 1st in each of the coming 3 seasons. I see them packaging some of their extra NHL-ready yound D along with some 1st rounders to get some high-end talent up front. (They have quantity, now it's time to target some quality high-end targets.)

- Martin has been a good soldier for Lou, but he's a throw-in on this deal to make the dollars work.

Chickenfoot

1.) 02 Feb 2024 22:26:29
No need for Martin, I dont mind this though at all.


2.) 02 Feb 2024 23:28:20
SOSA: as I mentioned above Martin is only a salary take back to facilitate the deal, as Rittich is above. (The return to the Habs is the picks. )


3.) 03 Feb 2024 22:14:58
I think you nailed Savard’s value in my opinion, a 1st is very reasonable.


 

 

02 Feb 2024 13:31:42
WPG Trades:

- 2024 2nd (MTL)
- 2025 1st

MTL Trades:

- Monahan
- Kapanen


- Chevy gets the C he needs to take important faceoffs without taking from his active roster.

- MTL increases picks for draft or trade.

- MTL increases available cap space to 7.2M, and encourages all teams in need of deadline cap space to come with offers to dump their garbage for prospects & picks.

Chickenfoot

1.) 02 Feb 2024 14:39:47
No from Winnipeg as the Jets need a 2C. Monahan isn't an upgrade over anyone in Winnipeg's top 6 and isn't good enough defensively to play in the bottom 6.

I doubt Chevy has any interest especially at that cost.


2.) 02 Feb 2024 14:40:29
I think that the value is there but if I'm MTL, I'd prefer going for prospects instead of picks. Rebuild is going along well and a young core is being built and I think it's important for them to have a core of players that have similar age ranges, considering they already have a good amount of draft picks in the next few years. I would swap that 1st for a young promising player like Lambert, assuming a deal would be done with WPG.


3.) 02 Feb 2024 15:34:04
Lol memarcusjoe what was that about Chevy not having any interest? ?.


4.) 02 Feb 2024 15:55:19
Nice chickenfoot, didn’t think Montreal was getting a 1st for Monahan. These early trades may be worth more than deadline deals. Montreal killed it with Monahan.


5.) 02 Feb 2024 15:55:59
Well that didn't take long. Excellent return for Montreal and a disappointing trade for Winnipeg.


6.) 02 Feb 2024 16:42:49
@memarcusjoe

Well. this reply aged well.


7.) 02 Feb 2024 16:45:54
Well, your doubts didn't pan out as you thought. Monahan is now a Jet! For a 1st this year and a conditional 3rd in 2027 if they win the cup.


8.) 02 Feb 2024 17:12:46
Hopefully Monahan is as good as Montreal fans say, but I'm not getting my hopes up.


9.) 02 Feb 2024 19:43:51
Pretty close value to the actual trade, well done.


 

 

 

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16 Jan 2023 14:32:19
Off-Season Bobrovsky Contract Options:

CAP HIT: Next 3 seasons at 10M/year.

TRADE: less likely, given FLA has already traded their next three 1st-round picks, and moving it wouldn't be cheap.

BUYOUT: to buy out the next 3 years it would create a cap hit of 6.666M for 3 years, plus 3 more years at 1.666M. Ugly, but necessary. Bob's game is structurally unsound and at 35 to start next season he's unlikely to be able to change some of his bad habits. (i.e. side to side movement.)

The buyout is ugly, but why waste one more season of this team's core? (At least it's better than the MIN buyout.)

Like Buckley's, it will taste awful, but it will work (better) than status quo.

Chickenfoot

1.) 17 Jan 2023 19:07:46
3 years of saving 3.4M then 3 years of only 1.6M isn’t actually that bad. They don’t really have any expiring contracts so maybe they wait one more season with him?


 

 

09 Aug 2022 13:11:34
I'm curious how WPG fans assess PLD's trade value. (Full respect WPG fans - sorry to bring this up.)

I respect Jets' fans and I hope they get good value for him in the way Treliving with Gaudreau.

Given that PLD will have to wait 2 years to "possibly" sign with MTL, and the fact that every NHL team now knows his preferred spot, his in-season trade value is impacted. It seems like the best chance to trade him is as a deadline rental. (For several reasons I don't see MTL as a logical trading partner.)

At the Trade Deadline I can see a max value for PLD as a 1st and a 2nd or a good prospect. At the least I see a 1st.

I'm curious how WPG fans see this ending. Island Jet, you're a legit WPG fan and a prudent/realistic observer. How do you see the PLD saga concluding, and where do you gauge the return?

(My apologies if this posts twice. I posted yesterday but perhaps something went wrong on my end?).

Chickenfoot

1.) 09 Aug 2022 15:08:53
I believe that if the Jets can't sign PLD by the trade deadline the Jets have 3 options.
1. trade him around the new year to a team that has a young skilled player that needs a change 1 for 1. Similar to the Laine trade.
2. trade him at the deadline in which they will get a couple of prospects and draft choices. This is a future trade if the Jets believe they need a do a rebuild.
3 trade him at the draft where they will get the best return of a top end player, A prospect and/ or high draft pick.


2.) 10 Aug 2022 05:08:18
I think assuming he is dead set on signing with the habs is ignorant. I’m sure if a team like Tampa has the cap room he’d consider there in a few years.


 

 

08 Aug 2022 16:55:44
Just to change the subject a little.?.I'm curious about what WPG fans think about PLD's trade value.

First and foremost, I respect WPG fans, and I want them to have a great season and get a fair deal for the PLD asset.

Given that PLD is an RFA this coming June, and a UFA the following June, and given his interest in landing in MTL eventually, his value seems to be that of a pure deadline rental. Whoever gets him knows they're unlikely to re-sign him.

I doubt the Habs will trade for him. It's not the right fit for a few reasons. Therefore, if true Cup contender is looking for a 2C-3C for a playoff run this year and next, I suspect his max-value is:

1st & 2nd

or

1st & decent prospect

What do you think Jets fans? What will he bring, and when will he be traded?

Chickenfoot

1.) 08 Aug 2022 18:59:18
I would like to see the Jets trade him 1 for 1 to a team that needs a change from one of their young, top end centre/ wingers. This type of trade can happen anytime by January or at the draft. If the Jets trade PLD at the deadline they will get A prospects and/ or high draft picks.
I would like to see them get a 1 for 1 top end player but if PLD doesn't sign long term before the deadline then he has to go by the draft.


2.) 09 Aug 2022 13:24:50
PLD's minimum value at the TDL in two years is a first and a good prospect.

So, if he is moved now, you would need to pay for those extra two years and would need to add probably either another good prospect or a young top 6 player.

Most likely nothing happens until next summer unless Chevy gets a too good to be true offer.


 

 

 

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29 Feb 2024 15:35:27
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29 Feb 2024 15:34:05
PINBALL: Thanks for the unintentionally hilarious lesson in how to build a team. that was awesome! It's always notable to be condescended to and insulted by someone with your hockey acumen. You're on fire today Pinball!

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29 Feb 2024 15:29:43
If VCR can't work out a deal with Petterson, and they actually did trade him, they'd want a player who can help them now for a Cup run instead of futures, IMHO.

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29 Feb 2024 15:25:51
Sweet Lou loves Dobson, who is a potential Norris candidate this season or very soon. I haven't such an effortless skater in recent memory. A few strides and he's down the ice. Very impressive to see at ice level.

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