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03 Mar 2023 16:30:02
LA - Petersen, Turcotte, 2024 1st
VAN - Demko
An off-season move if they don’t resign Korpisalo.
Petersen 28, has 2 years left at 5M. Demko 27, has 3 years left at 5M.
1.) 03 Mar 2023 19:20:46
That would be a great deal for both sides Ebs.
2.) 03 Mar 2023 22:37:30
Peterson is a cap dump, so essentially you're not really getting anything back for Demko lol. LAK needs to add
3.) 04 Mar 2023 01:40:54
Check out Demko’s numbers. Petersen has put up good numbers in the nhl before and he has one less year on his deal. VAN gets a first and solid prospect while getting a quality goalie back.
4.) 04 Mar 2023 02:37:50
Not sure I would consider Turcotte a solid prospect.
Maybe switch him out with Anderso-Dolan.
5.) 04 Mar 2023 12:55:55
Yeah that's true, it could work but I think they wanna avoid rebuilding. @ebsolutely
6.) 04 Mar 2023 12:56:03
Good post though!
7.) 04 Mar 2023 21:59:13
Sens dumped Murray for a 3rd along with 25% retention. So I don’t think the cost to dump Petersen would be that bad especially if there taking back another big contract in Demko. VAN doesn’t get much worse after the trade so I don’t see it as a rebuilding move.
8.) 05 Mar 2023 07:41:38
Yeah that's true, i agree with your logic but in my opinion I value Demko a lot more though. I just think he's a solid goalie. I'd love to hear what Canucks and Kings fans would say to this though.
9.) 05 Mar 2023 18:02:54
This is one take I absolutely disagree with. Petersen is making 5+ million in the AHL you don’t send a 5 million dollar player to the minors unless they are awful. Cal Petersen at one time was a NHL goalie but not anymore. He doesn’t belong in the big leagues and it was Rumoured it would cost Brandt Clarke to dump his contract.
10.) 06 Mar 2023 17:10:35
Maybe I’m underestimating how bad Petersen has been. But goalies regularly don’t have much value so getting a 1st and a decent prospect along with one less year of 5M for Demko is a good return IMO.
11.) 07 Mar 2023 00:52:54
You are vastly underestimating Petersens negative value. It’s literally 5 million dollars of dead cap.
12.) 07 Mar 2023 03:30:50
LA also has a hall of fame goalie and another that has gone 19-4-2. Petersen would make VAN’s team. It’s a risk for sure to trade for him but it could be worth it.
17 Feb 2023 23:17:52
EDM - Yamamoto, Conditional 2023 3rd
ARI - Gostisbehere (50% retained), Bjugstad.
1.) 18 Feb 2023 08:52:57
Looks good to me
04 Feb 2023 01:31:33
EDM - Puljujarvi, 2023 3rd
STL - Barbashev.
1.) 06 Feb 2023 11:29:53
No thanks blues rather have 2 2nds or 2nd and prospect. Poolparty is a cap dump at this point.
2.) 06 Feb 2023 16:56:15
"Poolparty"? Wow.
3.) 06 Feb 2023 19:36:39
Poolparty is probably one of the most well know nicknames around the nhl it’s clear you don’t follow the oilers.
4.) 06 Feb 2023 23:31:56
VB: this is getting embarrassing man. His nickname is “Bison King”. (Don’t take my word for it, Google it. )
I’m not sure why you’re so fascinated by me, but with every angry reply you throw my way you just embarrass yourself and come off unhinged.
Relax…go for a walk…whatever it takes. I’m here to talk hockey, not argue with you.
thehockeywriters. com/ jesse-puljujarvi-bison-king-moniker-perfect-fit/.
5.) 07 Feb 2023 01:20:47
Puljujarvi is overpaid buts he’s an RFA at the end of the season so I see it as less of a cap dump and more of a 20 game trial. St. Louis is rumoured to be interested in him. Barbashev is on pace for less than 40 points so I don’t see him getting two 2nds.
04 Feb 2023 01:24:46
NJD - Zetterlund, Casey, 2023 1st
SJS - Meier (50% retained)
NJD - Bratt
VAN - Boeser, Schenn, 2023 2nd, 2024 2nd
Palat - Hughes - Boeser
Meier - Hischier - Holtz
Wood - McLeod - Mercer
Siegenthaler - Severson
Schenn - Hamilton
Graves - Smith.
1.) 06 Feb 2023 17:47:18
Why would New jersey trade Bratt? 2nd trade doesn't make much sense for new jersey
2.) 06 Feb 2023 19:36:04
He’s an RFA and there’s been rumours for a while he won’t be resigned.
3.) 06 Feb 2023 19:47:20
BumbleBee Bratt has been a point per game for two seasons now and he’s only 24, could make a good duo with Petterson. IMO Van doesn’t need 2nd round picks they need a guy to play on the top line with Petterson. Trade Garland for cap space/ D man. They have a lot of good pieces to build with and Bratt would make them that much better.
4.) 07 Feb 2023 03:50:56
He's a great player, and I think Van would be interested. I just doubt that a deal would ever work out.
-I don't understand why a young team would take a step back and seek out draft picks?
- I would argue that Bratt is a better players than Boeser and on a cheaper contract.
- I'm not sure schenn makes up the diffrence in loosing a significant piece in Bratt.
Like I said, Vancouver would love to have Bratt, but not at the cost of draft picks, or that very least this year's 2nd round pick.
5.) 07 Feb 2023 16:22:10
Boeser will be cheaper for them next year after Bratt gets a raise, Schenn will be a good addition for a playoff run and the 2nds will be trade amo to improve the lineup. And again rumour has it Bratt won’t be a Devil next year. For VAN they upgrade on a guy that could use a fresh start. It costs them a couple picks but I’m surprised you don’t think it’s worth it. This might be premature but I imagine it helps with resigning Petterson too.
6.) 07 Feb 2023 20:15:40
Well, I would say 2 draft picks would be based on resigning with Vancouver.
Bard Marchand said it perfectly. (as much as I dislike the guy)
The reason boston has been so successful for so long, is because they don't ask for greedy contracts
(I'm paraphrasing)
You look at teams with the Matthew's and McDavid's of the league, they take such a huge chunk of cap space that it's tough to build a team around them.
MacKinnon did it right. He took a discount on AAV, won the cup, AND THEN got his big pay day!
So with Bratt, he will resign probably 8-9 million a year, can you build a team around him with that much cap space being gobbled up?
7.) 08 Feb 2023 00:10:05
I don’t think Bratt gets 8-9M, I think maybe in the 7’s. He’s an RFA too by the way so he’s under team control. Pit did it with Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Fluery all taking large cap %. You pay your star players, it’s the overpaid guys that hurt you. McDavid and Matthews aren’t overpaid. The McKinnon argument is baloney. He didn’t take a discount, he got the money he deserved he should’ve just signed less term. We’ll see if this Boston taking less baloney is accurate when Pasternak gets resigned. If it’s anything less than 10 I’ll believe it.
8.) 08 Feb 2023 12:28:57
Do you mean bologna? Lol
I'm not saying Matthew's and McDavid are overpaid. I'm saying they have made it difficult for the GM to build a team around them. The sedins took a discount to get to the finals.
Question: Would you say Nylander is overpaid?
Every GM makes mistakes. you will overpay someone. I guess what I'm saying is you have High cap players, less room for mistakes!
What Marchand said is true. you can't argue that. unless you've been day drinking.
Everyone forgets hockey is a business. from the players' side and the owners' side.
9.) 08 Feb 2023 14:46:15
BEE: well said.
You can’t have too many overpaid guys on a roster, and you need a whole lot outperforming their deal. Some people get that, some won’t. ?.
14 Jan 2023 03:34:31
EDM - Kulak, Foegele, Ryan, 2023 1st, 2024 2nd
NAS - Ekholm (retain 1.25M), Trenin.
1.) 14 Jan 2023 06:23:57
So, the Predators, who are just slightly below the Oilers, for the last playoff spot, are going to send a solid defensive defenseman and a solid 3rd line player, for cap dumps and some picks.
Ya, I think if I am Nashville, I just continue on and end up ahead of the Oilers anyways.
2.) 14 Jan 2023 08:32:13
Kulak is a downgrade for sure but he’s also 4 years younger and 3.5M cheaper (2.25M after retaintion) than Ekholm. Trenin and Foegele seem fairly comparable except Trenin is 800K cheaper. Ryan is in for cap reasons but he’s makes 1.25M so he’ll be easy to get a pick for.
This trade would probably make more sense if Nashville slips in the standings a little more. They haven’t been contenders in a while now and could use a shake up. Josi and McDonagh are horses on LD and Kulak can take most of the minutes left from Ekholm. Nashville also gets cap space.
3.) 14 Jan 2023 13:57:20
this is the target you might be able to move Puljujärvi in. add a first and kulak and youll likely have a deal.
4.) 14 Jan 2023 23:00:25
Tkachuk has been a great fit in FLA. No chance they’d trade him less than a year after making a big move to acquire him.
5.) 16 Jan 2023 02:33:52
@ chickenfoot, I think you replied to the wrong trade proposal.
6.) 16 Jan 2023 09:59:33
Yep, you are correct Renidrag ?.
7.) 16 Jan 2023 14:01:33
It was good for a laugh, plus 3 people agreed with you?.
8.) 16 Jan 2023 14:22:42
That IS funny, but regarding Tkachuk, he was a big move for FLA. He's really fit in great, but FLA really needs to fix their D and find some way to get partial cap relief with that gawdy Bobrovsky contract.
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03 Mar 2023 15:40:33
Holland talked to Puljujarvi about an extension in the 1M’s and Puljujarvi was okay with the money but he thought a fresh start would be better. Makes me think he never asked for a trade. I think a new opportunity is what he wanted but it sounded like it was a hard decision.
McKinnon signing for 12.6M and Pasternak signing for 11.25M shows they didn’t take discounts to stay. They both had no leverage on the their first contracts and probably got what they deserved. This is their critical money making contract that will make 90% of their career earnings and they took full advantage. Now on their next contracts sure I can see them taking less to stay. I believe Nuge did it, Kane potentially, Barrie (who I hope takes less to come back on his next contract) .
1.) 07 Mar 2023 01:09:34
The way I look at it if you take a discount as a union man to stay at a specific work site you’re a awful person I don’t care if you have family there. unions are meant to make sure people get what they are deserved and aren’t taken advantage of. Taking a discount is bad for the rest of the NHL because it effects the comparable contracts used by management and in term makes others less money. The owners are billionaires. They can afford to pay the players much more then what they’re paying them for the most part.
2.) 07 Mar 2023 23:31:27
I agree when it comes to these big dollar contracts but when it comes to a veteran who has already made his money I don’t see a problem with it. I just wanted to point out that the people that say McDavid and Matthews and whatever top players should have taken less like McKinnon they’re wrong. Or that Boston has a culture of taking less and Pasternak will do the same were wrong.
3.) 08 Mar 2023 19:40:03
Yeah for sure there is term thrown around in unions for the older members “ he served his time and payed his dues” I think that applys to the tenured vets.
4.) 08 Mar 2023 23:06:39
I also contradict myself a little because I think Campbell would have been smart to take say 4.75M instead of 5M and Nurse 8.75M instead of 9.25M. They would just take way less heat for there play if there salary started with one smaller of a number.
5.) 09 Mar 2023 13:05:05
Who cares about heat realistically. I’ll take the extra half of million to pay for Vegas therapy.
6.) 09 Mar 2023 17:32:06
Edmonton media/ fans play at least a small part of who stay and who goes. Fans hated Justin Schultz, Lucic, half and half on Puljujarvi and they all got moved possibly because of it. I don’t know how these guys value 500K when your making 9M so hard to say but it might be worth it to not get ripped on Twitter all time.
03 Aug 2022 20:27:16
Why hasn’t any GM offer sheeted Sandin yet? Leafs have -1.5M in cap space and the compensation for a 2.1M offer is only a 3rd. Would a 3 year @2.1M AAV get signed or matched? Have the salary be in the 3M for his last year to get him a high AAV on his next contract.
1.) 04 Aug 2022 00:35:51
Because Sandin isn't that good.
28 Mar 2022 18:30:25
If Husso is the starter for St. Louis in playoffs, will it cost them a lot to unload Binnington or does he have value? He’ll have 4 years left after this season at 6M. Will they just have to let Husso walk to free agency? I think I pretty close comparable is Driedger and he got 3 years at 3.5M.
1.) 30 Mar 2022 16:06:01
I’m sure Buffalo would take Binnington. Well pretty sure. He has a solid pedigree and hasn’t been as bad as Murray before he was traded.
23 Mar 2022 01:38:29
I’d give Kane a blank cheque with a 4 year term on it. Never knew how good he was until seeing him every night. Maybe one of the most underrated players in the league. I don’t know if the Oil can clear enough cap space but I have a feeling he’d show loyalty and take a slight discount to stay in Edmonton.
1.) 23 Mar 2022 15:07:55
I love Kane and wanted him on the leafs but I doubt he’d take a discount. Doesn’t seem like that type of guy.
2.) 23 Mar 2022 17:27:40
Considering his money situation maybe not. He’s been run out of what 3 cities, if he fits in well in the room and continues to rack up points then I think he will. I don’t know how many teams were willing to give him a shot this season and I don’t think he’ll forget that either.
3.) 24 Mar 2022 00:36:53
Money talks. He’s in no position to take a discount I know I wouldn’t. Business is business Edmonton gave him a opportunity and he showed them that it was the right choice and that’s that.
4.) 24 Mar 2022 14:46:31
Players take discounts all the time. I don’t think they’ll clear enough cap room for him anyways so we probably will never find out.
5.) 30 Mar 2022 16:07:41
He declared bankruptcy a few years ago. He’s not any player. He needs all the money he can get.
02 Aug 2021 00:15:00
Who’d you rather have Hyman 5.5M x7 or Coleman 4.9M x 6?
1.) 02 Aug 2021 03:50:56
I think Coleman is the better player so I’m going to go with him.
2.) 02 Aug 2021 07:57:05
Coleman is better and cheaper.
3.) 02 Aug 2021 16:53:24
Hymans propped up a lot bc he played in Toronto, he's a really good player, but I love the Coleman deal at less AAV and less term so i'd have to say his deal. Both players are very good tho, i'd just give a slight edge to Coleman.
4.) 02 Aug 2021 20:14:45
I’d rather take Coleman because of his deal but I’m not sure who the better player is. Hoping Hyman can at least live up to that contract for a few years.
5.) 03 Aug 2021 22:27:33
Only reason I prefer Coleman to Hyman is his versatility. Hyman plays a gritty go fetch the puck style and is capable on playing that way on both ends while putting up those points by having good hands.
Coleman is realistically more flexible to play any position and up and down the line up as a two way player who can chip in offensively without sacrificing the defence.
Both are very close choices and would ultimately be based on team needs.
08 Mar 2023 23:01:12
They barely saved any cap space because I’m pretty sure there deals would have been done after next season.
07 Mar 2023 23:24:20
Yeah I don’t think they can do 8 years it wouldn’t be a smart move. But maybe pick up a goalie at next years deadline then buy him out with 3 years left if his season goes badly. They have Lucic and Sekera dead money coming off the books then in 2 years Neal will be off.
How long were the Suter, Parise buyouts? Those were a bad move.
07 Mar 2023 03:30:50
LA also has a hall of fame goalie and another that has gone 19-4-2. Petersen would make VAN’s team. It’s a risk for sure to trade for him but it could be worth it.
06 Mar 2023 17:10:35
Maybe I’m underestimating how bad Petersen has been. But goalies regularly don’t have much value so getting a 1st and a decent prospect along with one less year of 5M for Demko is a good return IMO.
06 Mar 2023 17:08:21
Campbell could be a buyout candidate in the off-season.
09 Mar 2023 17:32:06
Edmonton media/ fans play at least a small part of who stay and who goes. Fans hated Justin Schultz, Lucic, half and half on Puljujarvi and they all got moved possibly because of it. I don’t know how these guys value 500K when your making 9M so hard to say but it might be worth it to not get ripped on Twitter all time.
08 Mar 2023 23:06:39
I also contradict myself a little because I think Campbell would have been smart to take say 4.75M instead of 5M and Nurse 8.75M instead of 9.25M. They would just take way less heat for there play if there salary started with one smaller of a number.
07 Mar 2023 23:31:27
I agree when it comes to these big dollar contracts but when it comes to a veteran who has already made his money I don’t see a problem with it. I just wanted to point out that the people that say McDavid and Matthews and whatever top players should have taken less like McKinnon they’re wrong. Or that Boston has a culture of taking less and Pasternak will do the same were wrong.
03 Mar 2023 14:57:10
You said it would take a 3rd to move Zaitsev not a 2nd so you actually lied about that. Crazy how some posters spin the facts. Don’t waste your time with this guy casual.
24 Feb 2023 14:44:21
Yeah I like the ring of honour for guys like Neil. The Oilers just started one and I think the first guy they put in was Ryan Smyth.