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11 Jan 2021 23:11:22
Minnesota: Matt Dumba


Winnipeg: Patrick Laine

A couple overrated players being shopped by their respective teams with absurd asks change places.

Winnipeg gets the right shot D they want and Minnesota gets a goal scoring forward they can use.

Both are on expiring contracts (RFAs after this year) with salaries in the same ballpark.

The only problem is both teams will like want more in return.


1.) 12 Jan 2021 03:43:20
I made a mistake about Dumba's contract, he actually has 3 years left and becomes a UFA when it's over.

2.) 12 Jan 2021 04:31:13
Easy no from Winnipeg and very poor knowledge of player values shown by the poster. Not surprisingly.

3.) 12 Jan 2021 05:36:49
Give it a rest with the insults Marcus. Every player in Winnipeg isn't a superstar no matter how much you keep insisting they are.

4.) 12 Jan 2021 13:49:01
Laine has high trade value whether you like it or not. He's actually pretty good and I'm not a Jets fan.

5.) 12 Jan 2021 14:01:15
Laine only wants to go to socal. He isn't interested in winning a up just getting paid and being on the coast.

6.) 12 Jan 2021 14:33:09
This is a trade proposal that the Jets would never do.

7.) 12 Jan 2021 18:09:27
Hopefully the Jets hang on to Laine. he's what a 22 year old kid? He's not mentally mature, but that will come, but seriously he's a kid. once he matures as a person, look out. sky is the limit.

8.) 12 Jan 2021 21:56:53
Laine for dumba and Fiala is closer.

9.) 13 Jan 2021 18:58:36

If Laine was signed to a longer term contract with a reasonable cap hit sure. But he isn't and if he was the Jets wouldn't be shopping him.



02 Jan 2021 02:24:31
To Calgary:
Pierre Luc Dubois

Sean Monahan
Oliver Kylington


1.) 02 Jan 2021 04:24:58
I think that would be a no from Columbus.

2.) 02 Jan 2021 05:08:30
Monahan is a 30 goal scorer, Kylington is a 6th/7th defensemen, and a 1st? How does Calgary keep adding after Monahan? Columbus takes that in a heartbeat, Calgary declines hard.

3.) 02 Jan 2021 13:08:01
It's pretty simple, Dubois is younger, bigger, plays a more physical game, is better defensively and produces pretty well offensively too in spite of being on a defense first team with very little offensive talent to play with him.

In short, Dubois is already better and at his age probably hasn't peaked yet.

4.) 02 Jan 2021 16:37:42
Casual, in this case it would be age and contact situation that would make it a no, IMO. Not necessarily value.

5.) 02 Jan 2021 17:54:12
MoxNix said it perfectly. John Tortirella runs a very conservative system similar to the Islanders with Barry Trottz that doesn’t favour well with high point production. Monahan is very overrated imo he’s a 2c that can be a 1c with elite wingers.

6.) 03 Jan 2021 02:03:38
@Nylander I agree that he’s a 2C, 1C with Elite Wingers but he isn’t overrated at all. Monahan never gets talked about. None of Calgary really ever gets talked about unless it’s Tkachuk, Giordano (only because of Norris) Giordano was underrated for so many years before getting recognized for his Norris Caliber performance.

7.) 03 Jan 2021 05:47:58

Now I'm curious. If you think Monahan is a "2C, 1C with Elite Wingers", then why did you say Calgary declines hard to this trade proposal?

The 2 hardest things to acquire are a number 1 center and a number defenseman. Dubois would be an upgrade on Monahan and if he is available there'd be plenty of other teams interested. The main advantage Calgary would have over other teams is Monahan is probably a better center than most other teams would offer in return.

Not enough by himself. Kylington is a player a strong defensive team like Columbus could use to help with offense. The two of them still wouldn't be enough. If they don't add a first they'd probably have to add a good young roster player they don't want to give up, like Benny, Mangi, Dube.

8.) 03 Jan 2021 22:05:54
Cause I don’t think Luc Dubois is a #1 Center. Me and a lot of hockey pages on Instagram feel the same on that. He’s a solid 2C. Monahan has proved way more, I’ll take Monahan any day

9.) 04 Jan 2021 17:49:38
Lol there’s where you’re going wrong. Instagram is not a platform to gather information on hockey. That’s like me saying many people agree the bruins suck because a drunk guy at the bar said that while puking in the bathroom.



13 Nov 2020 12:21:58
Patrick Laine


Noah Hanifin and a 1st round pick.

Winnipeg gets a solid top 4 defensemen on a good contract with lots of term.

Calgary takes a chance on a pure sniper with only 1 year left on his contract and who's probably looking for a big raise next year.

Both teams get something they can use and move a player they've been shopping.


1.) 13 Nov 2020 13:47:22
Yoooo I’m a flames fan and Laine is worth way more. For Calgary to acquire Laine i'd assume it would cost around Andersson, Dube, 1st & a B+ or A- prospect

2.) 13 Nov 2020 13:53:38
To get Laine the Jets would want quality not quantity. It would take a young #1 d-man not a bunch of 2nd line forwards, 2nd pairing d-men, prospects or draft picks. The Jets can be patient as they have control of him for 3 more seasons.

3.) 13 Nov 2020 14:12:48
@islandjet so Rasmus Andersson, Dillon Dube, 1ST & a A- prospect isn’t quality? Damn you’re actually biased as hell

4.) 13 Nov 2020 14:17:34
Hanafin doesn't have nowhere close to the value of Laine and the first doesn't close the gap much. Plus Hanifin is an LD and not a long term need. All in all, a very easy no from Winnipeg.

5.) 13 Nov 2020 15:52:41
That would be the same as Calgary trading Monahan to Winnipeg for Morrissey and a 1st Round Pick.
Would Calgary do that trade?

6.) 13 Nov 2020 18:03:41
yes calgary would do that lol morrissey way more valuable then monahan by himself.

7.) 14 Nov 2020 01:53:35
So Laine is potentially a higher scoring Mike Hoffman?

8.) 14 Nov 2020 13:01:44
I expected winnipeg fans would go ballistic over that but realistically it's about all you're going to get for a player who:

1. Is a high end sniper but
2. Isn't very good without the puck
3. Isn't very physical even though he's big
4. Only has one year left on his current contract
5. Is expecting a huge pay raise over the 6.75 mil he makes now.

If not for the existing flat cap you'd certainly get better offers but with things as they are now. If he actually was the superstar you all pretend to think he is then

a. He'd be on the first line not the second.
b. You wouldn't even think about trading him
c. The team wouldn't be shopping him.

Fact is the team doesn't want him because he's going want too much in a year's time and nobody else wants him either because not only does he want too much, the team does too!

9.) 14 Nov 2020 13:24:54
MoxNix trust me. Islandjet and Memarcus don’t see it that way.

10.) 14 Nov 2020 14:43:58
The Jets aren't shopping Laine and he hasn't said he wants out of Winnipeg so until that happens most of these trade post are wishful thinking by posters wanting to see the Jets get fleeced. A lot of humorous post by the way.

11.) 14 Nov 2020 15:07:23
NotACasual, trust me, I know. Those two don't like any Jets trade that doesn't totally rob the other team. Their idea of what Jets castoffs are worth is laughable.

12.) 14 Nov 2020 15:44:40
IslandJet, humerous posts no, laughable post yes. Posts from you that is.

According to you, half the Jets' forwards are either 1st line players or superstars.

Yet the Jet's couldn't even make the playoffs.

According to you the Jet's 2nd line players are better than Calgary's 1st line players.

Yet the Flames bounced the Jets out of the playin very easily.

You still haven't caught on Casual is making fun of you when he keeps offering Rasmus Andersson + more for all the players you want to get rid of. The Flames won't be trading Andersson anytime soon, especially not for an overrated one dimensional player on an expiring contract.

13.) 14 Nov 2020 16:37:55
U nailed it MoxNix. Overvaluing of an asset seems to be what is happening here. GMs are not going to give up a boat load to turn around and give Laine $8.5M to $10M a year later. Especially with a flat cap. He's the true definition of a one dimensional player.

14.) 14 Nov 2020 20:27:33
Rasmus Andersson is a cost controlled top4 dman whos young; if that ain't quality idk what is.

15.) 18 Nov 2020 15:24:13
WPG would rather a player than a 1st, in my estimation.

I don't have a horse in this race, but as-is this deal doesn't get CGY a guy like Laine. Not even close.



30 Sep 2020 05:05:36
Calgary - Mark Giordano for
St Louis - Alex Pietrangelo

I have a hunch Treliving is going hard after Pietrangelo.

Pietrangelo gets his 8 year contract, St Louis gets a still pretty good defenseman with a lower cap hit and shorter term. Calgary gets a new number 1 defenseman who should be good for at least a few more years and will help groom Andersson and/ or Valamaki for the the top spot in the future.

The part I don't like is that's a very long contract for a 30 year old player at what's going to be a big cap hit. If Pietrangelo declines quickly it'll work out very badly for Calgary in the long run.


1.) 30 Sep 2020 06:05:13
I think we’re going to see Petro in a Flames jersey but why would they trade for his UFA rights? They can probably get a first round pick and a prospect for Giordano. Why not just sign Petro in free agency and trade Gio to a contender?

2.) 30 Sep 2020 19:56:44
Agree with NotACasual. Also the 7 year term might be better for Calgary than 8 years.

3.) 01 Oct 2020 03:39:00
Who would want mark giordano at this stage of his career. HE IS 36 YEARS OLD. Retirement will come sooner rather than later.

4.) 01 Oct 2020 16:51:25
@NotACasual It's a sign and trade, that's how you get 8 years.

@Monkeyful possibly but the extra year is usually more attractive to the player and if it's for a lesser amount it lowers the AAV a bit and makes a potential buyout in the later years easier too.

@BumbleBeeTuna18 lots of teams would want Gio with just 2 years left on his contract. The Blues for one, Gio is a good short term option for them if they can't fit Pietro under the cap and keep him.



14 Sep 2020 04:29:37
Calgary: Johny Gaudreau, Oliver Shillington and a 2nd round pick, depth player or prospect.

Columbus: Seth Jones and Josh Anderson


1.) 14 Sep 2020 08:54:34
That’s a fat no from CLB. Jones is a top 3 defensemen in the NHL imo. Gaudreau disappears during Playoff time, Jones steps up all year round.
1. Hedman 2. Carlson 3. Jones

2.) 14 Sep 2020 14:18:44
I may have Josi and Slavin above Jones. Maybe even Makar as well. However this doesn't take away from how Jones is an amazing defenceman and you would probably have to start with Monahan if you wanted him.

3.) 14 Sep 2020 14:39:25
Seth Jones is a horse, and this trade doesn't come close to offering value for him. Players like Jones are hard to get, and this doesn't come close to the value of Jones alone, LET ALONE Josh Anderson too.

4.) 14 Sep 2020 14:51:05
@themostleaf33 hard to argue with your opinion honestly. Those are some amazing defenders.

5.) 14 Sep 2020 15:42:19
Lol I love the naming attempt of Kylington and that’s a gross no from Columbus. Guadreau will return a 1st and nice prospect. He is approaching UFA and coming off a bad season and even worse playoffs.




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24 Jan 2021 18:48:17
Typo, the 3rd round pick went to Winnipeg not Columbus. Correcting that before the troll blows it up into something else.




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24 Jan 2021 15:32:07
At any rate while I don't think I ever said it'd take Laine + 1st for Dubois I very well could have.

No matter how Marcus tries to spin it after the fact, Columbus got Laine + Roslovic (a first round pick right there) and a 3rd round pick.

That's after Marcus and Jet kept insisting it would take a lot more than Dubois to get Laine, that Laine would not be traded this year / at this time, etc., etc.




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24 Jan 2021 15:14:29

No I've only ever had this name here. That's just marcus doing what he always does making things up.




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23 Jan 2021 21:59:32
@memarcus the only trolls around here are you and jet. All you do is talk rubbish, call names, misquote and outright lie about others have said before.




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23 Jan 2021 21:44:23
Winnipeg wins this trade bigtime.

Finnish GM overpays for another Finn. They're just going to lose him after this year anyhow when he demands a huge pay raise. If the arbitrator doesn't give it to him he'll sulk until Columbus gets fed up and trades him too.





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