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16 Sep 2021 23:07:46
Calgary trades:
Johnny Gaudreau @50% retained


Philadelphia trades:

Wade Allison
2022 1st round pick

Treliving waited way too long (by 2-3 years) to try trading Gaudreau. The closer he gets to UFA the more his value drops. By the time the trade deadline comes around he should still be worth a first as a rental.

Calgary gets a young right shot RW with good size who plays a Sutter style game for right now and a first round pick.

Philly gets Gaudreau now with the retention making it easier to absorb his cap hit for this year. They'll have no trouble signing him to an extension for less than he'd sign anywhere else too.

MoxNix

1.) 17 Sep 2021 00:30:38
Not enough imo. I think Treliving thinks like a monkey and let's Gaudreau walk during FA.


2.) 17 Sep 2021 02:11:12
Yeah Treliving is bad enough to let Gaudreau walk and get nothing for him in the end.

What really worries me is he'll do something even stupider, like sign to a ridiculously high long term contract or worse yet trade away half the rest team for Eichel and keep Gaudreau.


3.) 17 Sep 2021 08:50:25
Gaudreau 9.0 @ 7 years sounds about Treliving.


4.) 21 Sep 2021 16:59:31
- Philly can't fit him under the cap, even with CGY withholding 50%

- Cgy seems to be in "do something now" mode. Sutter didn't come in for a rebuild, and I'm not sure Treliving would be chosen to rebuild the team anyway.

- Allison is injured.


5.) 21 Sep 2021 22:16:43
No doubt Philly can find someone they'd be happy to move if they have Johnny at half price replacing him. That's why I suggested %50 retained, to make that part easy for them.

The Allison injury just happened hopefully it's not too serious.


6.) 22 Sep 2021 13:24:40
I wouldn't call trading Gaudreau a rebuild.

More like fixing a problem. Allision (assuming his injury isn't long term) is about ready for the NHL now with the size and play style Sutter wants.

LW is the Flames strongest position with Tkachuk, Mangiapane, Dube and even Looch not to mention a few LW prospects who are NHL ready too.

Even with retaining 50% the Flames will still gain ~3 mil in cap space plus a 1st round pick which can be used towards a trade for a top 6 right shot RW.

Coleman should be a good middle 6 guy but the Flames could still use a top line right shot RW.


 

 

30 Aug 2021 04:34:53
To Calgary:
2022 first round pick
Kotkaniemi (with offer sheet matched)

To Montreal:
Sean Monahan

Montreal gets out of a bind with the offer sheet on KK.

Calgary gets.

MoxNix

1.) 30 Aug 2021 05:09:39
Accidently posted. I was working on a post when I realized it wouldn't work, went to cancel and hit the post button.


2.) 30 Aug 2021 15:33:24
I’d do it.


3.) 30 Aug 2021 16:07:39
This transaction is impossible under league rules.

KK can't be traded by ANYONE this year, either by the team that offer-sheeted him, or by the Habs if they matched.


4.) 31 Aug 2021 21:29:40
I this were legal you don’t trade a 21 year old 3rd overall pick who’s looking like a 2c for someone like Monahan or Ryan Strome.


5.) 01 Sep 2021 04:29:11
they just have to trade the right b4 matched then cgy matched.


6.) 01 Sep 2021 15:40:23
GIS1838: under the CBA the only two teams KK can possibly play for this year are CAR or MTL.


 

 

28 Aug 2021 03:18:49
Spotted this in of all places Sportsnet reader comments.

Vancouver trades:

Pettersson
Hughes
Boeser

Buffalo trades:

Eichel
Dahlin
Skinner

Sounds about right to me.

MoxNix

1.) 28 Aug 2021 03:29:56
I honestly value Pettersson higher than Eichel at the moment, Boeser is obviously way better than Skinner, Dahlin is better than Hughes. Skinner is what makes Vancouver say no. They don’t have even close to enough cap space for him.


2.) 28 Aug 2021 06:13:09
I value Pettersson quite a bit less than most do. He has talent but he doesn't have the size or strength to be elite. If he puts on at least 25 pounds of muscle he'll prove me wrong but I don't think he can do it. He doesn't have the 11th Commandment (thou shalt not touch Gretzky) or Dave Semenko protecting him either.

I think Eichel is vastly overrated. Healthy I'd value him a bit more than Pettersson. Right now I value him less.

Dahlin is far better than Hughes.

Boeser is much better than Skinner though it might be closer than you think. I wouldn't be surprised if Skinner with another team rebounds to be a player you can count on for around 25 goals / 50 points again. That'd even up the point production but Boeser still comes out ahead because he's bigger younger and his plus/ minus is far better.


3.) 28 Aug 2021 06:24:04
Vancouver has a good laugh.


4.) 28 Aug 2021 12:27:20
Take out Skinner and it’s closer. He brings Buffalos package down.
Peterson and Eichel are close (both top 20 players), but I’d take Eichel if both were 100%.
Dahlin >> Hughes. Dahlins much better 2-way whereas Hughes is offensively gifted but a defensive liability.
Boeser would be too much to fill in the difference, but a 1st from Vancouver would get it done.


5.) 28 Aug 2021 14:34:39
A healthy Eichel is a top 5 centre in the game.


6.) 28 Aug 2021 14:57:07
Omg Vancouver would be foolish to do this.


7.) 30 Aug 2021 16:23:09
I agree with the Bossman and Websac.

EASY NO from VCR.


 

 

20 Aug 2021 21:19:09
St Louis trades:
Vladimir Tarasenko
0.5625M retained

Calgary trades:
Sean Monahan

Both players are former 30 goal scorers coming off a couple down years due to injury. Both players are being shopped by their teams. Both players have 2 years left on their current contracts. Salary retention on Tarasenko evens out the cap hit for both teams.

MoxNix

1.) 21 Aug 2021 03:28:18
I’d rather Monahan.


2.) 21 Aug 2021 05:07:05
Me too but it's looking like Treliving really wants to move Monahan and is about to do something really stupid. In that case I'd prefer taking a chance on Tarasenko returning to form over selling low on Monahan.


3.) 22 Aug 2021 00:11:00
@Moxnix, I understand your reasoning behind why this would be a deal.

I just recall hearing rumours that Tarasenko hasn’t been moved due to his shoulder issues. So his value has taken a big hit due to his injury.

So Monahan likely would be best moved elsewhere for someone in need of a Centre.


4.) 24 Aug 2021 22:23:49
No he hasn't been moved cause the right trade hasn't presented it self lol.


 

 

11 Aug 2021 01:56:12
Since the rumors aren't going away let's talk about Eichel to Calgary and what it might cost. The reported price tag for Eichel right now is the equivalent of four first round picks, which for Calgary would be something like:

Buffalo trades:
Jack Eichel

Calgary trades:
Sean Monahan
Dillon Dube
2023 first round pick
One of Matthew Coronato, Connor Zary, Jakob Pelletier or Juuso Valimaki

That's too much for player with a serious injury who may never be the same again. The price would have to come down or there would have to be conditions based on Eichel's recovery after surgery and return to form (or not) post surgery.

I think Monahan and Dube up front with no conditions is reasonable but Calgary's 2023 pick would need to be conditional on Eichel's injury recovery and performance in 2021-22 and the 3rd player/ prospect should be balanced by a conditional pick coming back from the Sabres in 2023 (a late pick if he performs like an elite center, an earlier pick if he doesn't, how late or early depending on just how good or bad he is) .

What do you think?

MoxNix

1.) 11 Aug 2021 03:37:28
Buffalo counters with

Sean Monahan (flip)
2022 First Round Selection
Juuso Valimaki
Connor Zary
Dustin Wolf.


2.) 11 Aug 2021 12:57:58
I see Monahan getting atleast a 1st and good prospect, so essentially Buffalo would be getting 2 1st’s, A-/ B+ prospect, Valimaki, Zary, Wolf. I mean who wouldn’t take that.


3.) 11 Aug 2021 13:59:57
I don't think Buffalo would flip Monahan, at least not this year.

Buffalo is well under the cap floor now (around 12 mil under IIRC) and that's with Eichel's 10 mil per year still on the books. They do have a few RFAs to resign to get closer but I they'll need more contracts just to get to the floor, Monahan's will help with that.

The rest of your proposal looks good except there are no conditions?


4.) 11 Aug 2021 19:50:54
To Calgary: Eichel

To Buffalo: Monahan, Backlund, 2023 1st and lesser prospect (Zavgrodny/Petterson/Mackey)


5.) 11 Aug 2021 21:08:35
@greatscottcgy that’s horrible for Buffalo


 

 

 

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08 Aug 2021 11:00:19
HockeyBuzz says Gaudreau trade talk picked up again yesterday with the following teams interested in him

NY Islanders
Montreal Canadiens
LA Kings
Ottawa Senators
Minnesota Wild

I'm very skeptical of that list, Montreal and Ottawa have a player they might be willing to trade that Calgary would be interested in but the others don't really have what Calgary would be looking for in return.

Calgary's biggest need is a top 6 right shot RW.

Montreal has 3 of those in Toffoli, Anderson and Gallagher. I can't see Montreal trading Gallagher, he's been a core player for them for years now. After the year Toffoli just had and the chemistry he has with Suziki and Caufield I can't see them trading him either. That leaves Anderson, a player the Flames tried to trade for before who happens to be a Sutter type player too, big fast and physical.

Ottawa won't want to trade Batherson but after the chemistry Connor Brown showed with Mangiapane at the Worlds this year, Calgary should be interested in him if Ottawa is willing to trade him.

I'm a little skeptical of Ottawa being interested in Gaudreau because they already have Brady Tkachuk and Tim Stutzle at LW. Unless they want to play Stutzle at center which apparently he can play.

The Isles are probably the only one of those teams that is on Johnny's list of 5 teams he can be traded to. However if he isn't getting extended in Calgary I believe he'd waive for Montreal or Ottawa because it gets him closer to where he calls home if negotiations don't work out the way he wants there either. I doubt he'd waive for Minnisota or LA unless they offered him a pile of money first.

MoxNix

1.) 08 Aug 2021 12:18:56
Hockeybuzz sucks.


2.) 09 Aug 2021 01:37:07
I don’t think I would trade Anderson for Gaudreau. Habs need Anderson style player more than Gaudreau type.
More size and toughness and more grit. Anderson can also score goals in the tough areas.


3.) 09 Aug 2021 03:26:47
Muzza01. I agree 100%.


4.) 09 Aug 2021 04:48:17
@muzza01 I’m a flames fan but I 100% agree, Gaudreau is very good offensively but he’s not the type of player they need.


5.) 10 Aug 2021 03:18:39
Thank guys.
I think Gaudreau is a great offensive player. But he plays to much of a finesse game.
Where as Anderson is the player the Habs needed for a long time. Wish they would have signed Perry for another season or two.


6.) 10 Aug 2021 14:13:51
LMAO really MoxNix. Hockeybuzz? Usually what Eklund reports is the exact opposite of what actually happens.


7.) 10 Aug 2021 19:33:41
Muzza. I was really disappointed when Habs didn't get Perry back.


8.) 12 Aug 2021 04:32:26
Same here Sosahabs24. Very disappointed in Habs not signing Perry. I thought he played very well with the Habs. He was the exact kind of player they needed and lacked for so long. Having Anderson and Perry was great for the Habs. Adding size, toughness, and grit. Perry wealth of experience and a cup winner.


 

 

21 Jul 2021 18:27:18
Things should get real interesting in the next 24-48 hours.

Seattle signed Adam Larsson and picked Mark Giordano. That gives them a pretty good defensive pair right there. They have to be talking with some big name free agents too. If they sign Dougie Hamilton or trade for Seth Jones they'll have a very good defense right out of the gate.

Most of their selections reported so far are big guys too. They're going to be tough to play against. With a few good free agent signings and/ or trades they'll be a very good team too.

No doubt they're talking to Gabriel Landeskog and few of the other top forward free agents too. They could wind up signing Zach Hyman to a nice team friendly deal.

Lots of trade possibilities too. Besides UFAs like "Landeskog players like Eichel and Reinhart in Buffalo, Monahan and Gaudreau in Calgary, Laine and Jones in Columbus, etc. are available too.

Then tomorrow at 1 pm the roster freeze is lifted and other teams can start making deals with each other again.

Things are about to get crazy!

MoxNix

1.) 22 Jul 2021 01:56:09
whats a team friendly deal for hyman?


 

 

26 Apr 2021 04:19:44
Calgary needs a top 6 goal scoring right shot RW, it's been their biggest weakness for years now. Calgary is strong at center and very strong at LW.

Montreal with Toffoli, Anderson and Galagher is very strong at RW but weak at LW and inexperienced at center.

Gallagher would certainly be a nogo but Montreal might part with Toffoli or Anderson if they get a LW or center back.

Possible players from Calgary would be Backlund
Monahan
Gaudreau

Possible players from Montreal would be
Toffoli
Anderson

Obviously with Backlund, Calgary would need to add but he might be a perfect fit with the Habs for a couple years while their two young centers gain experience.

Monahan would give them an experienced top 6 center and Gaudreau would instantly be the Habs most skilled LW and best playmaker.

Personally I'd prefer Gaudreau be the player heading to Montreal but what do you think?

Which RW might Montreal trade, which of the Calgary players named above would they want back, which team adds and what would the add need to be?

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23 Sep 2021 18:18:17
No way Calgary adds it would have to be the other way around with Columbus adding a first.

The age difference is only 6 months. Columbus would be getting a center who's scored 20+ goals every year but one (last year when he was playing injured) and 30+ four times.

Bjorkstrand has gotten more points than Monahan exactly once. Last year (again when Monahan was playing injured) . Most other years Bjorkstrand's goal scoring and point production were nowhere near Monahan's.

Bjorkstrand does have a better career plus/ minus but he was playing on a defense first team too.

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23 Sep 2021 14:14:49
Way too much from Calgary. You're selling very low on Monahan.

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22 Sep 2021 13:24:40
I wouldn't call trading Gaudreau a rebuild.

More like fixing a problem. Allision (assuming his injury isn't long term) is about ready for the NHL now with the size and play style Sutter wants.

LW is the Flames strongest position with Tkachuk, Mangiapane, Dube and even Looch not to mention a few LW prospects who are NHL ready too.

Even with retaining 50% the Flames will still gain ~3 mil in cap space plus a 1st round pick which can be used towards a trade for a top 6 right shot RW.

Coleman should be a good middle 6 guy but the Flames could still use a top line right shot RW.

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21 Sep 2021 22:16:43
No doubt Philly can find someone they'd be happy to move if they have Johnny at half price replacing him. That's why I suggested %50 retained, to make that part easy for them.

The Allison injury just happened hopefully it's not too serious.

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18 Sep 2021 14:41:19
Pinball if you actually believe half of what you say you are delusional and need help.

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