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17 Jan 2022 02:56:43
Calgary can't afford to wait any longer for Monahan to find his game again. Some of the bottom ranked teams with plenty of cap space might be willing to take him on as a reclamation project.

Calgary trades:
Sean Monahan @6.375M UFA 2023

to a team like Buffalo, Columbus, Seattle, etc. for a second round draft pick

Yes it's selling low but Calgary gets an early second round draft pick and more importantly they get Monahan's cap space back.


1.) 17 Jan 2022 21:19:26
Problem is Picks and Cap Space Don't Put Points On The Board. So Yes, Monahan should be moved, but something has to come back to replace his scoring. You didn't propose how you would replace him on the roster either.

Pitlick and Ritchie are the 1st guys to get Sat, Traded or Waived, because they haven't put up anything. Obviously Trades need to happen, but they also have Pelletier, Gawdin, Ruzicka and Phillips they could insert in to the lineup:

Pelletier/ Mangiapane-Monahan-Mangiapane/ Phillips
Lucic-Gawdin/ Ruzicka-Dube

Gawdin and Ruzicka have got to be better than Richardson (still injured) and Lewis is playing better than Ritchie and Pitlick and is needed on the PK. Phillips and Gawdin were 120+ Point Top Scorers in the WHL, they just need a better role and some talent to play with. I'm convinced it's mainly Pelletier that's making everyone better in Stockton. Lots of players 20 and under doing well in the NHL too: Jack Hughes, Trevor Zegras, Lucas Raymond, Anton Lundell, Dawson Mercer, Tim Stutzle and Dylan Cousins to name a few and they're not all big guys either. Calgary has Talented Prospects, they just need to start inserting them in to the line-up and using it and spreading it out. Sutter's just too reliant on the old guys.

2.) 17 Jan 2022 23:06:47
Don't need a player in return. They'll have $6.375 million more cap space and another second round pick to shop for a replacement with.

3.) 17 Jan 2022 23:12:02
As for replacing him, he has 6 points and just 2 goals at 5on5. The other 10 points are all on the powerplay.

An immediate replacement would be Ruzicka, Dueher or even Gawdin in the lineup, Ruzicka, Dube or Gawdin positionally. And go shopping with $6.375 mil more cap and another second round pick on top of the cap space and the picks/ prospects/ players they already have.

4.) 18 Jan 2022 01:30:58
Well I wouldn't do it just for the sake of doing it. I would want to make sure we have somebody else coming in at the same time.

Should still be able to package Monahan in a Trade to Seattle for Giordano or McCann or Columbus for Bjorkstrand, Domi, Gavrikov or Jake Bean or Buffalo for Peyton Krebs, Robert Hagg or Mattias Samuelsson.

But yes, we do have a couple Centre's who should be able to replace Monahan's low production at 5on5 and they're worth a try.

In the meantime, sit/ rest Monahan and put Pelletier at LW with Dube and Mangiapane. I'd be interested in seeing Phillips on the RW with Mang on the LW as well, but he's not waivers exempt and
neither is Gawdin. I'd make the 4th Line a Defensive Hard Hitting Wear Down Chequing Line Centered by Ruzicka with Lucic or Coleman on the LW and Lewis, Ritchie. on the RW. If they dump or waive Pitlick, then they can bring up Gawdin and if they waive Ritchie they can bring up Duehr.

5.) 19 Jan 2022 16:33:20
Monahan must be reading this he scored two goals last night.

6.) 20 Jan 2022 03:57:45
Right lol. Good for him. Part of me wants to wait and see if he can turn things around still, but realistically we should probably move on from him regardless at this point. Hopefully he increases his value 🤞.



16 Jan 2022 21:02:40
Calgary trades:
Noah Hanifin @4.95M UFA 2024
Dillon Dube @2.3M RFA 2024
2022 first round pick
2022 second round pick (Florida's)
Glenn Gawdin @750K RFA 2022

Arizona trades:
Jacob Chychrun @4.60M UFA 2025
Lawson Crouse @1.533M RFA 2022

All assuming Chychrun's injury isn't very serious.


1.) 17 Jan 2022 22:21:43
For the millionth time, How much just for Lawson Crouse? and Christian Fischer too while you're at it? #HeckNoToChychrun.

2.) 17 Jan 2022 23:38:47
I wouldn't trade for Crouse. He's just an add to replace Dube on the roster and fill a spot in the bottom 6 at LW.

A spot he's better suited for than Dube is. Dube has more skill (better suited to a top 6 / middle 6 role) and isn't as big or physical (not as well suited for a bottom 6 role) .

Simply put, I didn't think Hanifin and two seconds was enough. Adding Dube to that was too much but adding Dube and Gawdin with Crouse coming back works. Crouse being worth more than Gawdin but less than Dube.

3.) 18 Jan 2022 01:50:04
Well I'm joining your position that the Flames should get Bigger with 6ft+ guys.

Dube hasn't been that great at 5on5 either, which may be a product of who he has been playing with, but Crouse is also scoring more.

I'm of the mind they should Trade Dube for a 2RW, but until then, move Dube and Coleman to the RW, as they have both had success there in the past. Dube's just got to be better.



13 Jan 2022 05:06:09
Another trade to address Calgary's need for a top 6 right shot RW who can score goals.

Calgary trades:
Tyler Pitlick @1.75M UFA 2022
2022 first round pick
2022 second round pick

Montreal trades:
Tyler Toffoli @4.25M UFA 2024

Gaudreau – Lindholm – Tkachuk
Mangiapane – Backlund – Toffoli
Dube – Monahan – Coleman
Lucic - Richardson - Ritchie / Lewis

Calgary has just enough cap space to fit Toffoli in with Pitlick's cap hit gone.
Alternately if Montreal is willing to retain 50% on Toffoli Calgary could remove Pitlick from the and make it Dube or a good prospect instead of the second.

What do you think does anything need to change and if so what?


1.) 13 Jan 2022 09:21:49
Not enough.

2.) 13 Jan 2022 09:22:26
Actually I take that back, it might be lol.

3.) 13 Jan 2022 16:34:21
I don't see Montreal retaining 50% on Toffoli for 2.5 years, but if they did, yes, you would be sending Dube + a 1st + a Top Prospect.

Pitlick + Two (2x) Second Round Picks + a 3rd Round Pick (/ or Equivalent Prospect) OR say Pitlick + Dillon Dube + 2nd Round Pick + 3rd Round Pick (/ or Jeremie Poirier) would be more appropriate IMO

Toffoli has scored 10 goals in his past 48 Games, so it's not like he's on fire and his value is super high right now. He also turns 30 in a couple months, but he does come on a decent contract and is scoring 0.65PPG, so he's worth a couple 2nd RD Picks + Something, but not a 1st without the 50% retention.

4.) 13 Jan 2022 22:57:49
@MoxNox and @NotACasual What about pursuing RW Oliver Wahlstrom out of New York? Any interest and if so what would it cost the Flames or is he too young and inexperienced yet?

5.) 13 Jan 2022 23:55:36
Wahlstrom is young and the Iles really like him. They won't be trading him.

6.) 13 Jan 2022 23:57:19
@TrevorA There's a great writeup on Toffoli's production and how he'd fit with the Flames here.

7.) 14 Jan 2022 19:25:19
I Agree, hit Disagree on mistake, stupid page was re-loading lol.

A 1st + Ryan Francis or Emil Heineman is fine by me. A bit of an over payment and they would need to take Pitlick back as well, but whatever it takes to get him, I'd be okay with at this point. I was essentially saying he's worth Three (3x) 2nd's + a 3rd, as a 1st is far more valuable than a couple 2nds and Dube is worth a late first to me, but Two (2x) 2nds for sure when you look at the probability of playing in the NHL for each Pick/ Round position.

Like Forsberg, Toffoli is a LW, so I wouldn't be surprised if Mangianpane stayed on the RW. Maybe they still pursue Connor Brown in addition as well, since he's a true Right Shot RW for say Monahan, Dube or Zadorov + Something. Or Dube + Something for Crouse would be good as well. Still need to upgrade those 3 Guys for a 1/ 2C another RW and/ or another Defensive Power Killing Forward for the 3rd Line LW/ RW with Backlund and Coleman.

I was going to mention paying attention to Nick Paul at 2C before the game too and he looked really good there last night. Christian Fischer and Luke Glendenning are cheap 3rd/ 4th Line Options as well. That Daniel Sprong out of Washington might be a cheap offensive RW option as well.

Whatever the Oilers have is super contagious, cause the Flames are on a bad losing streak now too. I'm sick and tired of waiting, some moves need to be made sooner than later. Give Pelletier and even Ruzicka a better look already. Both Ritchie and Pitlick aren't producing anything at all and shoot directly at the Goalie instead of the openings and net behind them.

8.) 15 Jan 2022 02:02:16
Nick Paul looked good last night because bad Markstrom showed up again last night. He was a sieve in that game.

9.) 16 Jan 2022 02:50:07
Watching Nick Paul again tonight against the Oilers. He’s not a bad budget player at all. Good energy, composure, vision and a decent shot too.

10.) 16 Jan 2022 09:24:12
A 2nd round pick should should get the deal done for UFA pending Paul, as a sens fan in my opinion.

11.) 16 Jan 2022 19:35:16
He’s definitely not worth a 2nd unfortunately maybe a 5th or 7th. Ottawa only traded a 7th Round Pick to acquire former 2nd Round Pick Dylan Gambrell from San Jose and they are/ were putting up similar numbers.

Ottawa should Trade Chris Tierney for sure and maybe Gambrell too and then re-sign and play Paul at Centre.

12.) 17 Jan 2022 03:56:51
Tierney has no value.



12 Jan 2022 18:57:15
If Kekalainen decides it's time to rebuild.

Calgary trades:
Sean Monahan @6.375M UFA 2023
Dillon Dube
Jusso Valimaki, Jakob Pelletier, Matt Coronato or Connor Zary (Columbus' choice)
2022 first round pick

Columbus trades:
Oliver Bjorkstrand @5.4M UFA 2026

A bit of an overpay for the Flames (a big one if Monahan rebounds) but Calgary is in win now mode. They finally get the top 6 right shot RW they need and gain some cap space to pursue an upgrade at second/ third line center or LD with.

Columbus gets a couple young players including their choice of one of Calgary's four top prospects and a first round pick to jumpstart the rebuild plus a veteran center who if he finds his old game again would be their first line center.


1.) 12 Jan 2022 22:26:04
Two votes already. I'm pretty sure the unbelievable vote is @TrevorA. Not so sure about the the believable vote but it might be @NotACasual.

2.) 12 Jan 2022 23:06:03
Just reading this now. FYI-I never hit the Unbelievable or Disagree button on your posts btw, but you’re not wrong, I’m not crazy about this proposed trade.

I rarely hit those buttons unless people make a proposal that doesn’t add up cap wise or they haven’t included any reasoning or explanation as to why the trade makes sense or how they will replace the player that’s being traded.

Everybody seems to hit the unbelievable and disagree button on me though lol, which is completely fine, but I prefer and respect the people who offer some reasoning or a counter proposal, so I know why and can try to learn or improve from it. We don’t all have to agree all the time either and I’m perfectly fine with that too.

3.) 13 Jan 2022 00:05:10
LOL ok. In your case it's probably because your posts tend be long with complex multiplayer trades. It's just too much effort for most to respond to the whole thing.

4.) 13 Jan 2022 00:59:11
You probably hit Disagree on my post previous to yours @MoxNix LOL.

Oil10 is the one who puts several multi-team trades in one post which is very difficult to analyze and respond too. I have posted a few 3-5 player acquisition trades but those do happen now and then. I posted a simple Lawson Crouse for Pitlick, Gawdin + a 2nd and 3rd Prospects and got 0 Agrees and 13 Disagrees with absolutely no comments, so I have no idea why that trade would be unbelievable

The internet and these forums are an interesting thing and yes, most people are extremely lazy and exert very little effort and others just don’t have the guts too, but whatever, I’m just here killing time cause I can. I take most comments with a grain of salt, but am most interested in thoughtful and intelligent feedback, even if it’s not necessarily positive. It keeps me thinking and sometimes you guys help me and other times I realize your guys’ posts are no more successful or better liked than mine are; so it’s all good. Just can’t wait to see some trades here already so we can verify Toffoli, Anderson and Chiarot aren’t going to bring in a huge haul like everyone seems to think, but we’ll see and I’m perfectly okay being wrong from time to time.

5.) 13 Jan 2022 03:13:05
Bjorkstrand is criminally underrated imo because he plays in Columbus and is on a great long term contract, so I think this would be the cost to acquire him. Whether Clb wants to rebuild without him I’m not so sure about- I think they’d rather trade Domi, Laine and those type of guys.

6.) 14 Jan 2022 21:57:19
I'd do this Trade if you took Pelletier and Coronato out (offering either Valimaki or Zary only instead) and I'd prefer to send a 2nd RD instead of Dube (use him for trade bait for another player), but if Dube must be part of the package, fine. Bjorkstrand would be coming at a good age with a reasonable contract.



06 Jan 2022 19:34:43
Calgary needs to move Monahan and get a second line center to replace him. The Sharks don't look like they'll be making the playoffs so Tomas Hertl could be available.

Calgary trades:
Sean Monahan @5.25M (1.125M retained) UFA 2023
Dillon Dube or 2022 2nd round pick (Calgary's)
2022 2nd round pick (Florida's)

San Jose trades:
Tomas Hertl @5.25M UFA 2022

Calgary resigns Hertl for 3-6 years at 6-7M per year and brings up Pelletier or Dueher to replace Dube. The higher the salary the shorter the term. If it's a sign and trade maybe the Flames could make it Monahan, Dube and a first.


1.) 06 Jan 2022 21:00:30
A mistake above.

Hertl's cap hit is 5.625M not 5.25M, Calgary would only retain 750K rather than 1.125M.

2.) 06 Jan 2022 21:25:57
Hertl for Monahan + Two 2nds would be ideal. I'd want the Sharks 3rd/ 4th to retain $2.25mil on Monahan OR would offer another Pick for SJ to retain on Hertl instead. I value Dube > a 2nd, but sometimes you got to give to get and I def want Hertl extended too

If Hertl will be too much, these rentals are worth consideration: Claude Giroux, Joe Pavelski, Jeff Carter (avail? ), Paul Statsny or younger guys like Andrew Copp or Vincent Trochek (avail? )

I'm even more interested in RFA's Pavel Zacha and Jared McCann, or guys with term like Anze Kopitar (Monahan + Zadorov + Pick + Prospect), JT Miller, Adam Henrique, Ian Iafallo and I'd consider gambling on Alex Kerfoot, Pius Suter or Call Jarnkrok too if they came cheap or took one or more of Monahan, Pitlick or Zadorov back.

3.) 07 Jan 2022 07:11:46
Zacha for sure, he's my first choice at center as a very affordable long term solution.

Miller would be great but probably not available, is up for a big pay raise next year and would likely cost too much to acquire anyhow.

Henrique would be ok but really he's more of a good 3rd line center / middle 6 player than a second line center. Still he'd be an improvement over Monahan now and he had some chemistry with Mangiapane at the Worlds too. I think that line was more about Mangy and Brown though, Henrique just happened to be the guy who benefitted from centering them.

Jared McCann would have to be cheap, he might be ok as a 3rd line center but he's no second line center.

Kerfoot is pretty much more of the same only smaller and more expensive. I don't want Kerfoot but at this point do Monahan with no retention for Kerfoot. However I'm absolutely certain Toronto wouldn't consider it. They couldn't afford his cap hit even if they wanted to, not even close.

Jarnkrok sure if it doesn't cost too much to get him. He's more of a 3rd line center than a second line center too but he is a right shot and his cap hit is only 2M. Pitlick (1.75M cap) and a 3rd or 4th works for me.

Ian Iaffolo? Who's he? Or did you mean Alex? He's a left shot LW the very last thing Calgary needs more of.

Calgary and LA don't like each other I can't see Kopitar ever coming to Calgary. I'd pass on the rest for various reasons.

4.) 07 Jan 2022 22:25:09
Looks like Zacha has gone cold the last couple of weeks.

Further to my post above, Calgary needs to start thinking about replacing Backlund, so picking up Kerfoot or McCann would at least give us a better 2C than Monahan or Dube for now until a deal for a better C comes along at which point the can be moved to 3rd/ 4th C.

I mentioned considering Calle Jarnkrok about a month ago when his value was likely much lower, but he's been heating up lately. I just feel he would make a good fit on the Flames since he would familiarity with the other Swede's, specifically Markstrom and Backlund and he's versatile enough to play wherever he might be needed if the price wasn't too high, like a 4th or Pitlick + a 5th/ 6th/ 7th or something like that, since Pitlick isn't doing much or seemingly needed anymore.




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08 Aug 2021 11:00:19
HockeyBuzz says Gaudreau trade talk picked up again yesterday with the following teams interested in him

NY Islanders
Montreal Canadiens
LA Kings
Ottawa Senators
Minnesota Wild

I'm very skeptical of that list, Montreal and Ottawa have a player they might be willing to trade that Calgary would be interested in but the others don't really have what Calgary would be looking for in return.

Calgary's biggest need is a top 6 right shot RW.

Montreal has 3 of those in Toffoli, Anderson and Gallagher. I can't see Montreal trading Gallagher, he's been a core player for them for years now. After the year Toffoli just had and the chemistry he has with Suziki and Caufield I can't see them trading him either. That leaves Anderson, a player the Flames tried to trade for before who happens to be a Sutter type player too, big fast and physical.

Ottawa won't want to trade Batherson but after the chemistry Connor Brown showed with Mangiapane at the Worlds this year, Calgary should be interested in him if Ottawa is willing to trade him.

I'm a little skeptical of Ottawa being interested in Gaudreau because they already have Brady Tkachuk and Tim Stutzle at LW. Unless they want to play Stutzle at center which apparently he can play.

The Isles are probably the only one of those teams that is on Johnny's list of 5 teams he can be traded to. However if he isn't getting extended in Calgary I believe he'd waive for Montreal or Ottawa because it gets him closer to where he calls home if negotiations don't work out the way he wants there either. I doubt he'd waive for Minnisota or LA unless they offered him a pile of money first.


1.) 08 Aug 2021 12:18:56
Hockeybuzz sucks.

2.) 09 Aug 2021 01:37:07
I don’t think I would trade Anderson for Gaudreau. Habs need Anderson style player more than Gaudreau type.
More size and toughness and more grit. Anderson can also score goals in the tough areas.

3.) 09 Aug 2021 03:26:47
Muzza01. I agree 100%.

4.) 09 Aug 2021 04:48:17
@muzza01 I’m a flames fan but I 100% agree, Gaudreau is very good offensively but he’s not the type of player they need.

5.) 10 Aug 2021 03:18:39
Thank guys.
I think Gaudreau is a great offensive player. But he plays to much of a finesse game.
Where as Anderson is the player the Habs needed for a long time. Wish they would have signed Perry for another season or two.

6.) 10 Aug 2021 14:13:51
LMAO really MoxNix. Hockeybuzz? Usually what Eklund reports is the exact opposite of what actually happens.

7.) 10 Aug 2021 19:33:41
Muzza. I was really disappointed when Habs didn't get Perry back.

8.) 12 Aug 2021 04:32:26
Same here Sosahabs24. Very disappointed in Habs not signing Perry. I thought he played very well with the Habs. He was the exact kind of player they needed and lacked for so long. Having Anderson and Perry was great for the Habs. Adding size, toughness, and grit. Perry wealth of experience and a cup winner.



21 Jul 2021 18:27:18
Things should get real interesting in the next 24-48 hours.

Seattle signed Adam Larsson and picked Mark Giordano. That gives them a pretty good defensive pair right there. They have to be talking with some big name free agents too. If they sign Dougie Hamilton or trade for Seth Jones they'll have a very good defense right out of the gate.

Most of their selections reported so far are big guys too. They're going to be tough to play against. With a few good free agent signings and/ or trades they'll be a very good team too.

No doubt they're talking to Gabriel Landeskog and few of the other top forward free agents too. They could wind up signing Zach Hyman to a nice team friendly deal.

Lots of trade possibilities too. Besides UFAs like "Landeskog players like Eichel and Reinhart in Buffalo, Monahan and Gaudreau in Calgary, Laine and Jones in Columbus, etc. are available too.

Then tomorrow at 1 pm the roster freeze is lifted and other teams can start making deals with each other again.

Things are about to get crazy!


1.) 22 Jul 2021 01:56:09
whats a team friendly deal for hyman?



26 Apr 2021 04:19:44
Calgary needs a top 6 goal scoring right shot RW, it's been their biggest weakness for years now. Calgary is strong at center and very strong at LW.

Montreal with Toffoli, Anderson and Galagher is very strong at RW but weak at LW and inexperienced at center.

Gallagher would certainly be a nogo but Montreal might part with Toffoli or Anderson if they get a LW or center back.

Possible players from Calgary would be Backlund

Possible players from Montreal would be

Obviously with Backlund, Calgary would need to add but he might be a perfect fit with the Habs for a couple years while their two young centers gain experience.

Monahan would give them an experienced top 6 center and Gaudreau would instantly be the Habs most skilled LW and best playmaker.

Personally I'd prefer Gaudreau be the player heading to Montreal but what do you think?

Which RW might Montreal trade, which of the Calgary players named above would they want back, which team adds and what would the add need to be?





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26 Jan 2022 22:57:58
The Fleury trade might fly but the rest heavily favor edmonton.




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26 Jan 2022 22:43:30
Ebsolutely and Casual nailed it.

Giroux is still good but he's 34 years old and UFA after this season. As a playoff rental he'll be worth a first plus something extra.

Giroux @4.1375M (50% retained) UFA 2022


2022 first round pick
2022 second round pick (Florida's)
Nikita Zadorov @3.75M UFA 2022.




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26 Jan 2022 22:30:08
Not bad, value is about right. Crouse and Dube with Monahan or Ruzicka at center just might be a very effective line.




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25 Jan 2022 16:45:01
Arizona will get better offers than Liljegren, Robertson and a first for Chychrun.

Trading the other 6 players would cost extra since it's basically a cap dump with the Leafs ridding themselves of 3 players they don't want anymore for cheaper players.




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24 Jan 2022 19:00:35
Eberle and Appleton might get you Monahan but no way Calgary adds a first or Dube far less both.





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