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24 Jun 2021 04:41:57
To Buffalo:

Mikeal Backlund
Connor Zary
2021 2nd round pick

or

Mikeal Backlund or Connor Zary (Buffalo's choice)
2021 1st round pick (#12)


To Calgary:

Sam Reinhart


All kinds of options for Calgary

Johnny Gaudreau - Elias Lindholm - Matthew Tkachuk
Sean Monahan - Sam Reinhart - Andrew Mangiapane

Johnny Gaudreau - Elias Lindholm - Matthew Tkachuk
Andrew Mangiapane - Sean Monahan - Sam Reinhart

Reinhart can play center or wing, Tkachuk and Mangiapane can play either wing and I've always thought Monahan would be really good at LW.

MoxNix

1.) 24 Jun 2021 11:03:00
Good trade. Reinhart + Zary I think makes sense for Buffalo.


2.) 24 Jun 2021 11:11:48
Buffalo jumps on that 100%. Zary and 1st for Reinhart would absolutely get that deal done.


3.) 24 Jun 2021 13:20:32
Terrible for Buffalo Backlund holds negative value to them. Rienhart is one of the most consistent players in the game and is easily worth more then Zary and a 2nd. Zary and 12th overall would be a solid offer. I bet Vancouver offers Buffalo the 9th overall for Rienhart. Rienhart is a Vancouver native and Benning is said to be looking to aggressively make moves this off-season. That’s his own words from his season ending interview. Something around Rienhart+ for Tkachuk also would make sense in a vacuum due to Tkachuk asking for a trade “rumoured”.


4.) 24 Jun 2021 14:28:58
@Nylander highly doubt Tkachuk would rather play in Buffalo then Calgary.
12 + Zary is better than 9, so Buffalo would jump on it.
Backlund holds little value so doesn’t make sense for Buffalo to take him.


5.) 25 Jun 2021 03:42:03
I didn’t see Zary + 12th for Rienhart. That’s a solid deal. Maybe Vancouver offers the 9th and a prospect to put bid but I think it’s a solid offer.


6.) 25 Jun 2021 04:58:51
@nylander all good, I seen that offer and I think it’s solid aswell.


 

 

19 Jun 2021 15:08:22
Ottawa wants an experienced center, Calgary needs a right shot RW.

Mikael Backlund

for

Connor Brown.

MoxNix

1.) 19 Jun 2021 16:46:08
Awful for the Sens. They have the money to throw at FA a lot more talented than Backlund. Brown is a top 10 pk player and has heart, he’s pretty close to untouchable I’d say.


2.) 19 Jun 2021 19:45:57
No from Ott. Backlunds on the wrong side of 30 and costs more than Brown. Ottawa also likely goes young down the middle with Norris/ Pinto and adds a third line C via FA.


3.) 19 Jun 2021 20:33:06
@Websjac

Which free agent is that going to be? Krejci and Nugent-Hopkins are the only two UFA centers who scored more points than Backlund last year. Both get paid more than he does, Nuge is looking for a raise and Krejci is 35 years old.

As for RFAs, you can't just sign them, you have to trade for them too.


4.) 19 Jun 2021 22:00:23
Calling Connor brown untouchable isn't something you'll hear a GM say.


5.) 19 Jun 2021 23:27:16
Well it would take a hell of a lot more than a declining 3C getting paid like a top line player.
Glendening, Backes, Zajac, Granlund, Bjugstad are all better options.


6.) 19 Jun 2021 23:30:31
@Monkeyful Ottawa is in playoff mode for next year so they wouldn’t trade Brown for a 1st or prospect. Other than that, what trade helps both Ottawa and the partner get better because this one only helps Calgary.


7.) 20 Jun 2021 04:11:48
Brown is a great 2 way player who is young and getting better Backlund is a good 3C but isn’t worth Brown and maybe not his contract.


8.) 20 Jun 2021 04:18:38
No from Ottawa, Backlund is older and overpaid. Backs doesn’t fit with Ottawa’s plans. Maybe expansion will take Backlund but I doubt it, still a good player who plays an important role nonetheless.


9.) 20 Jun 2021 06:17:00
@Nylander

You say 27 year old Brown is young, yet not very long ago you said 26 year old Monahan and 27 year old Gaudreau are old.


@Websjac

Luke Glendening? He's the same age as Backlund and nowhere near as good.

David Backes? He's a 37 year old RW who's played a grand total of 37 games and scored just 10 points in the last TWO years combined.

Travis Zajac? 36 years old and declining fast.

Granlund? Ok he's decent. The best of the bunch you named.

Nick Bjugstad? He's big but that's about the only good thing you can say about him.


10.) 20 Jun 2021 10:54:19
I’ve never said those two are old. I personally believe 26-31 is a guy’s prime (that’s why the thought of McDavid not even in his prime yet is insane) . The only reason I think Calgary should trade Gaudreau is because I don’t think he will resign, so you may as well get something for him.

I’m just saying paying 5.8M for a 3C seems like a bad idea especially when you’re giving up the better cheaper younger player. The players I’d mentioned would likely sign for under 2 which is more reasonable.
Heck even facilitating a trade with the Leafs for Kerfoot isn’t the worst idea. They’d probably be willing to add something decent to save money.


11.) 20 Jun 2021 14:54:14
@Websjac I never said you said those two are old, @Nylander said that.

Backlund has been a 2C virtually his entire career. Yes this year he was behind Lindholm and Monahan on the depth chart but that doesn't mean Backlund can't play 2C anymore. He makes 5.35 mil not 5.8

Anyhow according to all reports Ottawa is looking for a solid experienced center to take some pressure off their young guys and give them a few years to develop. Backlund a solid 2 way center with 3 years remaining on his contract would be perfect for that.


12.) 20 Jun 2021 15:52:39
Guadreau and Monahan are 2 unwanted players that Buffalo does not want and are way to old to be core players for there franchise.


13.) 20 Jun 2021 16:45:25
@Moxnix sure but it would be Calgary adding to get off his contract, not getting the better player in the trade.


14.) 21 Jun 2021 21:10:19
"get off" his contract?

The Flames aren't looking to dump Backlund or his contract if that's what you think.

But they probably would considering trading Backlund for Connor Brown. Not because Brown is better (he isn't) but because:

a) Calgary really needs a decent right shot RW (which Brown is) and
b) because Brown had good chemistry with Mangiapane at the World's.

Brown is younger and gets paid less (for 2 more years anyhow) . Taking that into consideration Calgary might even be willing to add a little sweetener or retain some salary but it wouldn't be a whole lot in either case.


15.) 22 Jun 2021 10:55:21
Not better? He had more points. A better defensive rating. Way better on the pk. Like name one thing Backlund does better. Backlund stats have gone the wrong way.


16.) 22 Jun 2021 15:24:10
More points, yeah 3 more points. This year. The only year Backlund was centering the 3rd line instead of the 2nd.

Every other year Backlund had more points. Last year it was close, otherwise not.

Not sure what you mean by a better defensive rating. Plus minus maybe? Backlund is often tasked with shutting down the other team's top line / best center and has been considered one of the best defensive centers in the league for many years.

He's very good on the PK, good on faceoffs and the powerplay too.


 

 

31 May 2021 05:22:08
Apparently Seth Jones has informed Columbus that he will not be resigning with them next year. They need a center badly.

Calgary trades:

Sean Monahan
Johnny Gaudreau

Columbus trades:

Seth Jones
Oliver Bjorkstrand

Columbus gets linemates to play with Laine on the first line. Calgary gets a really good shutdown defenseman and the top 6 RW they've been lacking for years.

MoxNix

1.) 31 May 2021 06:00:50
Bjorkstrand plays 1st line Laine plays 2nd. No way Bjorkstrand is moved. Guadreau also wouldn’t resign in Columbus. Also Columbus won’t be interested in any player over 23 in their rebuild.

Jones for Mangiapane, Valimaki and 1st 2022.


2.) 31 May 2021 09:47:59
@nylander I like that deal way better. Mangiapane would be a significant loss imo but Jones on the top pair with Gio would be fire.

Giordano - Jones
Hanifin - Tanev
Mackey - Andersson

Solid af.


3.) 31 May 2021 14:34:37
I dunno. Mangiapane is one of those guys who just keeps improving, getting better and better year after year.

He's already exceeded expectations from when he was drafted by a lot. If he hit his ceiling this year it's a fair trade but if he takes another step again next year it's a terrible trade for Calgary.

With that in mind, Calgary should keep Mangiapane.


4.) 31 May 2021 16:33:43
You have to give to get @Moxnix if the deal you make doesn’t hurt chances are it’s not fair for the other team. Sure Guadreau and Monahan are two solid peices but their is absolutely no reason why Columbus would want either of them considering they are a bottom feeding team even with

Mangiapane, Valamki and 1st for Jones

You’re giving a top 6 wing, a struggling but highly touted prospect and 1st for a bonafide number 1 dman. You have to beat every other teams offer and every competitive team in the NHL would put in a offer for him.


5.) 31 May 2021 19:02:38
When a player wants out and says he won't resign, the team has to take what they can get for him or wind up with nothing. Plus no team is going to offer much unless they can talk to Jones first to make certain he will sign with them.

Trading Valimaki, a first and something else no probably, but making Mangiapane the something else would be a mistake. If Mangy plateaus where he is now and stays at that level then it'd be ok but not if he takes another step.


6.) 31 May 2021 21:16:26
That was supposed to be "no problem", rather than "no probably".


7.) 31 May 2021 21:28:14
If Jones resigns he’s a franchise player and you take that and run. That’s the most highly sought after position in hockey. I’m sure the leafs out but that offer as a RHD would be a massive add.


 

 

15 May 2021 23:06:07
Jack Eichel
Jeff Skinner

for

Auston Matthews
Mitch Marner

After all what would Matthews be without Marner and vice versa.

What do you think @Nylander, how many firsts does Toronto add? 5? not enough? How about 10?

MoxNix

1.) 16 May 2021 05:53:56
Both teams decline Skinner is awful but Eichel is better then both players. Eichel=Eric Lindros.


2.) 16 May 2021 11:18:07
Matthews > Eichel
Marner >>> Skinner


3.) 16 May 2021 12:56:48
I'd say Eichel is somewhere between Eric Lindros and Alexander Daigle.


4.) 16 May 2021 15:29:53
Nylander, Eichel hasn't done enough to justify be rated better than either Marner or Matthews. Could he be? Absolutely. His diac in his neck is going to be a huge hindrance on him. So we may never find out.


5.) 16 May 2021 15:42:38
I dissagree with his injury it can be corrected through surgery it’s also not something that reoccurs. That injury happens to a lot of QBs in the NFL. They all return fine.


6.) 17 May 2021 01:49:11
Eichel's true value can be summed up by his effect on other players.

Taylor Hall stats GP G A P PM +/ -

2020-21 Buffalo Sabres NHL 37 2 17 19 24 -21
2020-21 Boston Bruins NHL 16 8 6 14 2 15


That's playing with the supposedly great Eichel vs playing with Krejki.


7.) 17 May 2021 02:51:33
There’s this thing in life called chemistry and Hall/ Eichel had none.


 

 

12 May 2021 22:32:23
Not that I want to see him in Calgary but since Jack Eichel trades seem to be FoTM now here's mine:

Johnny Gaudreau
Sean Monahan
2022 1st round pick

for

Jack Eichel
Sam Reinhart
2022 4th round pick

Both teams get the shakeup they need with Buffalo gaining a 1st round pick and just over $2 mil in cap flexibility.

MoxNix

1.) 13 May 2021 04:28:50
Take out Eichel and it’s closer lmao

Try

Tkachuk
Lindholm
Valimaki
1st
For
Jack Echel.


2.) 13 May 2021 08:03:17
@nylander that’s such an overpayment... don’t got to be a Calgary fan to see it. Dumbest proposal I’ve ever seen


3.) 13 May 2021 14:29:50
Value wise it’s not bad @Moxnix. To make it happen Gaudreau would need to sign an extension (so he’s not a one season rental), which I don’t see him wanting to be on Buffalo.
For that reason it wouldn’t happen.


4.) 13 May 2021 15:30:12
Eichel is a franchise C whens the last time one has been traded? Eric Lindros? Yeah that’s not going to cut it for the hardest position to find. A 24 year old franchise altering centre locked up for 5 more years is going to take a lot more then that. Rangers and LA both beat that offer without hesitation.

Also why would a rebuilding team want Guadreau and Monahan they are not competitive they want draft capital and blue chip prospects back. Just very biased towards Calgary and not taking Buffalos needs into consideration.


5.) 13 May 2021 16:43:33
@Nylander the problem for Buffalo is a) Eichel is injured, b) he doesn’t want to stay and c) he has never had a winning season (just a stat guy)

All those things decrease Eichels value. He’s not a player a GM should sell the farm for.


6.) 13 May 2021 17:32:52
That still doesn’t take away the fact every team in the NHL beats that offer.


7.) 14 May 2021 00:09:28
I guess we’ll wait and see.
I’m betting he goes for around 4 firsts. Guarantee Laf or any player of his caliber is not included. Best they will get is Byfield + from LA and Kakko + from NY.


8.) 14 May 2021 02:57:13
@Websjac 4 firsts is probably too much, unless it's a powerhouse team that expects to picking near the end of the draft for the next 3 or 4 years. But those teams don't often have the cap space to take on a contract like Eichel's even more so in these flat cap times.

I don't think Buffalo wants to start the rebuild all over again. I expect they'll trade him for the best player (or two) back they can. Maybe add a pick/ prospect or two but not all picks or even picks and prospects unless they're elite prospects.


9.) 14 May 2021 03:30:34
Those are both solid bases I agree.


10.) 14 May 2021 07:03:13
MoxNix
Tampa Bay: Alex Killhorn, Yanni Gourde, Tyler Johnson, Cal Foote, 2nd 2021, 1st 2023, 1st 2024 and 1st 2025

Buffalo: Eichel

Gives the Bolts 5 million extra in cap space. Spezza, Thortan and Simmonds combine for about half that.

Any team in the NHL could make room for Eichel and would out bid that offer you proposed.


11.) 14 May 2021 19:45:55
@Nylander Buffalo turns that one down for sure.

Three older somewhat overpaid forwards and a 7th defenseman. Yeah right, taking on that bunch would actually up the cost in picks. The four picks (which are going to be very late) should be enough by themselves though it'd be better if Buffalo can get 2 or 3 higher picks from another team.

Better yet if they can get a good center back, maybe a decent winger and a pick or two. How many picks/ prospects and how good they are would depend on who the player (s) they're getting are.


 

 

 

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26 Apr 2021 04:19:44
Calgary needs a top 6 goal scoring right shot RW, it's been their biggest weakness for years now. Calgary is strong at center and very strong at LW.

Montreal with Toffoli, Anderson and Galagher is very strong at RW but weak at LW and inexperienced at center.

Gallagher would certainly be a nogo but Montreal might part with Toffoli or Anderson if they get a LW or center back.

Possible players from Calgary would be Backlund
Monahan
Gaudreau

Possible players from Montreal would be
Toffoli
Anderson

Obviously with Backlund, Calgary would need to add but he might be a perfect fit with the Habs for a couple years while their two young centers gain experience.

Monahan would give them an experienced top 6 center and Gaudreau would instantly be the Habs most skilled LW and best playmaker.

Personally I'd prefer Gaudreau be the player heading to Montreal but what do you think?

Which RW might Montreal trade, which of the Calgary players named above would they want back, which team adds and what would the add need to be?

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24 Jun 2021 17:06:16
In your dreams maybe but in reality. Not a chance!

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24 Jun 2021 12:58:31
Yeah right, Monahan won't have any value next year.

That must be why you're willing to "take a chance on him to return to form" but aren't asking for any salary retention.

The Flames aren't "taking a chance" on Monny returning to form they're counting on it!

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24 Jun 2021 07:12:59
@Websjac

I missed your comment earlier about if Nylander is overpaid then Monahan is way overpaid.

Nylander scored 31 goals once, Monahan did it twice and had a 34 goal season too. Monahan has averaged over 25 goals per year over 8 years (including this year when he was playing injured) . Nylander has barely averaged 17 goals per year over 6 years (including the first where he only played 22 games) .

The most points Nylander ever had in a year was 61 which he did twice. Monahan has beaten that 4 times, including an 82 point year.

Monahan scores more goals, more points and everyone knows centers are more valuable than wingers. So who (if anyone) is overpaid again?

Myself, I say if Willy continues to play like he did in the playoffs this year he's worth his salary.

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24 Jun 2021 05:28:37
Hate to burst your bubble but Monahan scored 22 goals in his rookie season without Gaudreau.

The team was pretty bad that year too. Hudler, Giordano and Backlund were their best players and Camallari was 3rd in points.

IIRC the top line that year was Camallari Backlund Hudler. Monahan 5th in scoring behind those 4 didn't have much to work with.

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24 Jun 2021 04:24:44
Nobody wants Taresenko now. He hasn't been the player he used to be since the shoulder injury.

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