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07 Apr 2021 14:16:36
Blockbuster deal

Calgary Trades:
Sean Monahan
Johnny Gaudreau
Sam Bennett
2021 1st round pick

Buffalo trades:
Jack Eichel
Sam Reinhart.

MoxNix

1.) 07 Apr 2021 17:42:55
I doubt Buffalo would do it as you’re trading younger players on longer contracts for older guys that are going to become FA soon. I think they’d rather a trade package that gives them future assets. It could be a pretty cool 3 or 4 team trade with Bennett and the first going to Buffalo, Eicher and Reinhart going to Calgary and then Gaudreau and Monahan to one or two teams that give young assets to Buffalo.


2.) 07 Apr 2021 19:52:25
Why would Buffalo want two aging players for a top 5 centre in NHL. As a leafs fan I acknowledge he’s better then Mathews.


3.) 08 Apr 2021 03:18:40
Since when is a 24 year old, 26 year old and 27 year old “aging players”? You realize Eichel is 24 and Reinhart is 25, so with that logic wouldn’t they be aging players as well?


 

 

25 Mar 2021 20:50:38
Calgary trades:
Johnny Gaudreau 6.75 mil (1.2 mil retained)
Sam Bennett 2.55 mil (1.7 mil retained)

Philidelphia trades:
Travis Konecny 5.5 mil
Nolan Patrick 874k
1st round pick

Philly wants Johnny, Johnny would love to play in Philly. Calgary gets 2 right shot forwards to fill the gaping hole at RW. Sammy and Nolan are both former high draft picks who haven't panned out as expected and could benefit from a change of scenery.

Take away the salary retention on Gaudreau and the pick could be a 2nd rounder.

MoxNix

1.) 26 Mar 2021 03:52:08
Fair trade imo.


2.) 26 Mar 2021 03:56:45
Gaudreau definitely resigns in Philly aswell. He’s always wanted to play for Philly, he lives there and his fiancé is there. I’d really want Konecny and Myers if it was possible. But this is fair imo, good post.


3.) 26 Mar 2021 15:56:29
This is a really easy no from Philly. Konecny has more value than Gaudreau. Patrick has more value than Bennett. How is this fair?


4.) 26 Mar 2021 17:08:08
Switch the first from flyers to a 2nd or 3rd coming from flames and would be realistic.


5.) 26 Mar 2021 17:41:43
@UnkleSalty Without any retention you might get a 3rd or lower.


6.) 27 Mar 2021 01:23:15
@ebsolutely, I think you might be undervaluing Gaudreau a bit. He’s definitely way better than Konecny.


7.) 27 Mar 2021 04:04:43
Doesn’t mean he has more value, plus look at there’s stats the past little while. If Philly knew they could sign him long term for a contract they liked I think they’d have similar value.


 

 

17 Mar 2021 05:43:15
Calgary trades:
Sam Bennett
Derek Ryan
Andrew Mangiapane
2021 2nd round pick

Nashville trades:
Philip Forsberg

Ryan is only in there to help with the cap. He's a UFA after this season. Glenn Gawdin or Adam Ruzicka can be called up to replace him.


Calgary gets the top 6 right shot RW they need.
Nashville gets a good young winger, a young center/ winger who still has unrealized potential and a nice draft pick to kickstart the rebuild.

Alternatively if Nashville is willing to retain enough of Forsberg's salary to make it work Calgary could keep Ryan and either upgrade the pick to a 1st or add a top prospect like Jacob Pelletier.

MoxNix

1.) 17 Mar 2021 06:40:50
I’d rather keep the 3 pieces from Calgary. Calgary doesn’t need another LW that’s going to be wanting a big raise. Calgary would lose 3 roster players and gain 1 back, it wouldn’t be a good idea.


2.) 17 Mar 2021 12:42:15
Derek Ryan has zero value and would pass through waivers. This is pretty awful considering Bennet and Ryan hold zero value to the Preds.


3.) 17 Mar 2021 14:04:02
Forsberg is a right shot and would be filling the RW hole.


4.) 17 Mar 2021 16:29:30
Forsburg excels on his offside much like Ovechkin, Paniran and Laine. His one timer wouldn’t be utilized on the RW.


 

 

28 Feb 2021 18:46:02
Calgary trades:
Johnny Gaudreau
Sam Bennett

Philadelphia trades:
James Van Riemsdyk
Nolan Patrick

JVR is included to balance cap.
Philly moves both the youngest and oldest player in the trade. 22 and 31 vs 24 and 27 for Calgary.

Why Philly might do it:
Philly gets a player in Johnny they have significant interest in who really wants to play for them.
They move an older player who though he is having a good year is declining, is currently the highest paid player in the deal and on the longest contract.
They get the most skilled player in the deal.

Why Calgary should do it:
They get bigger.
They get a right shooting forward who can play center or wing (right shot RW being Calgary's most pressing need) .
If JVR continues to produce well his contract isn't all that bad and if he doesn't work out he can be bought out in a year or two.


The teams swap young centers capable of playing on the wing. Both are high picks who haven't met expectations. Patrick has been injury prone, Bennett has been inconsistent (poor in the regular seaons and great in the playoffs) . A change of scenery might be good for both players.

Calgary probably winds up with the better young player in the end but Gaudreau is still in his prime and a definite skill upgrade over a declining JVR.

MoxNix

1.) 28 Feb 2021 19:57:10
Bad for Calgary which is surprising. Patrick while a lot younger and better then Bennet is very injury prone and JVR is a complimentary piece.


2.) 28 Feb 2021 20:43:30
2 years isn't "a lot younger". Overall Philly actually gets younger by 2 years and Calgary 2 years older which again isn't a big difference.

Gaudreau is a complementary piece on the Flames and he's just going to sign with Philly in 1.5 years anyhow. This way Calgary gets something for him. A useful player in Patrick who could be either a top 6 winger or a 3rd line center right now and if he's over the injury bug still has the potential to be even better.

Bennett should fit right in Philly and might finally start approaching the potential everyone still sees in him.

Of course there's usually some risk involved for both teams in any good trade. Bennett and/ or Patrick might not be any better with new teams than they have been with their existing teams. Philly might not be big enough and mean enough to make more room for Johnny (I think they are though) . And JVR might drop off badly (I think he'll be ok for at least the rest of this year) . On the other hand it could work out very well for both teams and all the players involved.


3.) 28 Feb 2021 20:55:58
Besides my initial thought was adding a Philly 2nd round pick or something to the deal. But with the way people are around here once they figure which team is your team they pretty much always without fail shoot down anything you propose for your team as too much. ;)


4.) 28 Feb 2021 22:08:59
No from Calgary


5.) 07 Apr 2021 01:37:46
Sorry, but Nolan Patrick isn't going to have a long career and JVRs is almost over.


 

 

26 Feb 2021 17:40:23
Calgary trades:
Milan Lucic (2.5 mil retained)
And?

Boston trades:
Brandon Carlo

I believe Lucic would waive his NMC to go back to Boston and Boston just might take him back if they only have to pay 2-3 mil of his salary. Edmonton is already paying 750k, leaving 5.25 mil. With Calgary retaining 2.5 that'd leave 2.75 mil.

Carlo makes 2.85 mil and is an RFA after this season. There's no doubt Calgary would have to add something to make it happen but the teams have talked about Carlo before.

I doubt the Bruins would be very interested in picks or prospects, it'd probably take a roster player, likely a defenseman. Kylington or Nesterov shouldn't be a problem but if the Bruins want a Hanifin or Valimaki the Bruins would have to add more too.

The question is what else would Calgary have to add to make it happen?

MoxNix

1.) 26 Feb 2021 17:55:18
Guadreau for Carlo straight up would be fair. Carlo large premium 6 foot 5 shut down dman. He’s basically Colten Paryanko with less speed and a little worse shot. Guadreaus contract hurts his value being a UFA in 1.5 years.


2.) 26 Feb 2021 18:46:07
@Nylander you really think Carlo has the same value as Gaudreau?


3.) 26 Feb 2021 21:08:07
I do think so he’s a young physical cheap big mobile cost controlled shut down dman. Those are rare to find. I’d say his value is abit higher then Rasmus Andersson although I think those 2 and Lindell on Dallas in the same tier. Maybe just below the Brodin/ Pesce tier.


4.) 26 Feb 2021 23:25:18
Didn’t the GM say they’d trade Pastrnak before they’d ever think of trading Carlo?


5.) 27 Feb 2021 00:50:17
I’ll admit he’s off to a good start this season but I mean a 2.5M Lucic is not worth very much if anything. Would have to be a fairly significant piece to get Carlo.


6.) 27 Feb 2021 14:34:07
@Ebsolutely No argument there. I'm just wondering what adds others here think it would take.


7.) 27 Feb 2021 20:32:24
I believe the add is hanifin. That's who Boston likes. But with lucic, if Boston sees no value, then you're paying them to take the contract. So the add becomes quite big.


8.) 05 Mar 2021 02:21:58
Well you’d have to add Tkachuk to get Carlo and get rid of Lucic.
Carlo is 23/ 24 top 4 dman on a top defensive team, leads team in pk, right hand shot.

You must not watch much hockey outside of Calgary to even suggest this trade.


 

 

 

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21 Apr 2021 22:46:49
Value is ok but I don't see Philly trading Konecny without getting a top 6 forward in return. I don't see Toronto trading their best LD for a 3rd pairing / taxi squad RD either.

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21 Apr 2021 22:36:03
Toronto says no. Reilly is better than Dumba and Hartman isn't worth much.

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17 Apr 2021 04:20:52
Huge no from Calgary.

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17 Apr 2021 04:02:37
Calgary would be better off passing on Eichel and just trading for Reinhart. They're fine at center now and need a top 6 right shot RW.

Eichel hasn't lived up to the hype around him.

He's been injured often, missing 21 and 15 games in 2 different years with ankle sprains. Now this year he played just 21 games and is out for the rest of the year with a neck injury that requires surgery.

He's a couple good years and a few soso years and this year a bad one with just 2 goals in 21 games.

Every high scoring forward they've brought in to play with him has been terrible with him. Hall, Skinner, etc. Hall is looking pretty good in Boston now though, same goes for O'Reilly who left a few years earlier.

It's starting to look like the problem in Buffalo may *BE* Eichel. Weak ankles, a bad neck, a complainer with a me first attitude and a huge long term contract. He doesn't make the players around him better, in fact he seems to make them worse!

No thanks!

Reinhart on the other hand is one of the few players in Buffalo who's been producing this year in spite of everything. Players like that are the ones you want.

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15 Apr 2021 11:06:15
Both teams say no to that one.

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