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16 Feb 2021 21:07:06
Nylander & Vesey for Backlund & Bennett?

Salaries pretty much balance out. I don't care if Toronto gives up the "supposed" best player. Toronto gets a solid 3C and some toughness. Calgary gets a top 6 RW. Kerfoot would be a better piece than Vesey for Calgary because they are losing 2C in the deal. I don't think Calgary can take on the salary difference between Vesey & Kerfoot


1.) 16 Feb 2021 21:33:06
No from Toronto why would you want that

2.) 16 Feb 2021 22:30:51
I hate Nylander. Backlund is good at both ends of the ice and they need grit. Their team is built to make the playoffs every year, and that’s it. can't win on skill alone.

3.) 16 Feb 2021 23:07:49
Replying again.
Nylander > Backlund (Backlund is super good defensively tho, but age, offensively and positional wise it makes no sense for Toronto)

Bennett > Vesey (Bennett plays a hard and physical game, Vesey is a pylon, both similar offensively but Bennett has a better chance of breaking out and is younger)

4.) 16 Feb 2021 23:37:46
That’s just absolutely stupid from the leafs. Wouldn’t mind Backlund as 3C tho Bennet went from underrated to severely overrated very quickly he’s worth a 2nd/ 3rd tops when he’s moved at deadline Calgary fans will be disappointed.

5.) 17 Feb 2021 00:32:53
@toronto17 that is very true but Nylander is younger and better offensively, but the playoffs is a different story you’re right. Mhm maybe an add from Calgary? Like a first round pick. I just see this kinda favouring Calgary at the moment

6.) 17 Feb 2021 11:22:16
Flames say thanks but we'll just keep our two centers.



29 Jan 2021 13:50:34
Dermott for Bennett? Maybe a small add somewhere. Change of scenery for both players. Leafs could always use more grit. Not sure if Calgary needs a dman but maybe Dermott fits in 5-7 dman. They are the same age, both RFA's, and both have shown some promise in years past


1.) 29 Jan 2021 14:54:16
No from Calgary they’re set on the left side.

2.) 29 Jan 2021 15:15:27
Thanks. I don’t know much about Valimaki.

3.) 29 Jan 2021 17:54:18
@toronto17 Valimaki is a stud and is regarded as untouchable, Treliving really likes Val. But so far he’s struggled a bit this season

4.) 29 Jan 2021 18:58:10
Untouchable is being thrown out very lousily on this site.

5.) 30 Jan 2021 01:16:23
@nylander it’s not my words. They have literally stated that he is untouchable

6.) 30 Jan 2021 16:01:10
Well they must’ve said it in the sense of a hyperbole as I’m sure when Jack Eichels name was floating around in the offseason and Calgary called Buffalo to see what it’d take to get Jack out they didn’t tell them Valamaki is off limits. I am absolutely sure they’d include Valamki in a trade for Eichel.

7.) 30 Jan 2021 16:10:17
I didn’t know Valimaki was highly regarded. I’m just trying to find a fit for Dermott. The leafs could use a bottom 6 grinder or just trade him for a pick. Toronto really needs to get Lehtonen or Sandin in the line up full time.

8.) 30 Jan 2021 17:18:24
Detroit would be a fit for Dunn and Dermott that’s the only team I could see protecting 1 of those 2.

9.) 30 Jan 2021 18:24:56
Don't worry Toronto fans, injuries will occur, and they other players will be called up. Don't trade your depth and get stuck.

If lehtonen or sandin deserved the full time spot, they would have it.

10.) 30 Jan 2021 23:14:43
We’ve seen quite a bit of Sandin, he’s is better than Dermott IMO. I think he has a much higher ceiling as well. Yes injuries will happen but I don’t think they need that many LD when the RD are weak. Maybe a one for one, Dermott for a RD of similar talent. I would really like to see Holl/ Reilly, Brodie/ Muzzin. I hope Brodie is just nervous with a new team. He fumbles the puck a lot and passes to nobody. Holl has been a stud, could be the rock defensively that Reilly needs.



06 Oct 2020 13:45:15
Nylander for Larsson and Kassian. The salaries are close, maybe a pick added somewhere? Leafs get a top 4 RD and some grit. Edmonton gets a top 6 forward, much younger than the players they give up. Everyone talks of the defence the oilers have in their system. I'm sure one can fill the hole left by Larsson


1.) 06 Oct 2020 16:50:01
what are u on.

2.) 06 Oct 2020 19:03:10
Uhh. Larsson is a pending UFA. I’m not totally sure if he could catch a 1st at the deadline and Kassian isn’t worth much.

3.) 07 Oct 2020 00:15:46
I didn’t realize Larsson was a UFA. I did mention that a pick could be added somewhere Emmitt, it was just a base to fill positional needs.

4.) 07 Oct 2020 03:31:58
You didn’t realize Larsson was a UFA because he’s not. He has a season left at $4.1mill.

5.) 07 Oct 2020 14:20:44
Yeah 1 year left is a pending UFA why would I associate the trade deadline with him if I didn’t know that? Pending UFA means they are about to be UFAs players like Krug/ Petro/ Hall are UFAs currently.

6.) 07 Oct 2020 13:33:02
Well Pending UFA means his contract is up at the closest UFA day, which is OCT 9th this year. So, Pietrangelo and Hall are ‘pending UFA’s’’, not Larsson, but if that’s what you meant then fine.




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07 May 2021 00:23:36
It seems as though the refs need Montreal players to make the call for them. They say they score, the refs blow it down. Allen tells them someone was in the crease, he waves it off. Noesen was definitely in the crease but why can't these refs make their own decisions?


1.) 07 May 2021 04:47:58
Reilly dives and they get a 5 on 3 the list goes on and on lol. Stop cryin you won be happy.



25 Apr 2021 01:40:47
Are the leafs a dirty team? I find the question ridiculous. They probably hit the least in the league. A couple high sticking fines happens to every team. Tonight's game was the most physical I've seen them in a couple years. Anyways, they need Thornton & Simmonds angry for the playoffs if they're going to win a round


1.) 25 Apr 2021 13:41:52
Toronto isn’t a dirty team at all lol. I’m a flames fan but Calgary can be a very dirty team sometimes.

2.) 25 Apr 2021 15:22:04
Dirty hockey is the best hockey. Wish there was more 2 hand stick fights like there was in the 40s lol.

3.) 26 Apr 2021 05:13:05
What’s wrong with fists Nylander? That’s how real men fight. I’m not sure if you’ve reached adulthood yet.

4.) 27 Apr 2021 16:23:39
Real men thought in the battle of Thermopylae in Ancient Greece. They didn’t use fists.

5.) 27 Apr 2021 21:54:39
They didn’t use hockey sticks either.

6.) 28 Apr 2021 16:07:19
Habby2, you are honestly a legend, I stop posting on this site for a little while because just watching you put the self proclaimed genius Nylander in his place has been entertainment enough for me.

7.) 28 Apr 2021 20:21:43
Knowing someone is enjoying it makes it all worthwhile janderson. the truth is I actually don’t mind nylander most of the time, it’s just sometimes he becomes too big of a homer and I can’t hold it in any longer lol. we’re you here when he all but guaranteed marner would get 150 points that season?



21 Apr 2021 03:11:20
I think I'd rather Hutchinson over "occasional" save Dave. I'll admit I was bashing Brodie his first 5-10 games, now I think he's pretty solid. Rittich has lost the puck too many times tonight please make me feel better about this guy casual, lol


1.) 21 Apr 2021 09:37:00
Give him team. New city, new team. Only his second nhl team he’s ever played on, imagine the emotions he’s going through rn. He’ll bounce back

2.) 21 Apr 2021 11:52:39
He was so bad last night. Let in 3 goals that classify as “that terrible goal that goes in once a month” in one game. One of the 2 better get it together soon. Fred looks like he’s getting closer atleast.

3.) 21 Apr 2021 14:16:32
A healthy Andersen has proved to be more then competent. They have 3 nhl caliber goalies who can get hott. 1 of the 3 is bound to go on a hott streak and that’s the one you play. Dave has had hot stretches In Calgary. Campbell has had them in in both LA and Toronto. Andersen won a series for Anaheim and his lack of success should be blamed on the team and not him.

4.) 21 Apr 2021 19:24:18
Sunday night Campbell was okay and Holtby was exceptional. Canucks win. Last night Rittich was terrible and Holtby was good. Canucks win. Leafs don’t need exceptional goaltending. The have good offense and the D is far better than in years past. Just need solid. make the saves you should make and make a cpl others at key times. Give them a chance to win every night and they will win a lot. But can’t be letting 1,2 or 3 softies in a night.

5.) 21 Apr 2021 19:35:51
I sure hope he turns it around. I still think Campbell will be ok.



20 Mar 2021 22:39:43
Why has Joe Thornton never been 3C? He only made a living playing center for 20 years


1.) 21 Mar 2021 14:21:44
Doesn’t have the defensive ability.

2.) 21 Mar 2021 15:46:10
I think if you put some wingers with him that can skate, he’d be just fine. Thornton/ Engvall/ Mikheyev would be a good 3rd line IMO.



13 Mar 2021 22:42:48
Can someone tell me why Komarov is on the taxi squad in NY? Has his play declined that much? I know he was put on waivers as well. I loved him in Toronto and they could use a player like him in the bottom 6. If NY had interest in Kerfoot, it could save the leafs cap this year to make a run at someone else also. Not sure if either team would be interested. Maybe a pick added?


1.) 15 Mar 2021 07:52:50
I would say it’s a combination of his drop off in play and for cap flexibility.

2.) 15 Mar 2021 18:47:06
Thanks habby.




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01 May 2021 20:53:38
I was thinking Barrie is FairTrade4All Nylander, but you might be right. Barrie and Balsam are the two biggest trolls on this site.




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01 May 2021 20:35:45
“Less talents than the leafs” from an oilers fan, lol. Have you ever looked at your own profile Barrie? You’re obsessed with the leafs, even when the conversation is not about them. Remind me please what your previous username was.




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01 May 2021 18:00:52
Yes they would need someone with term if trading Reilly.




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30 Apr 2021 23:47:00
Both decline. I actually like Barrie’s suggestion. I really think Sandin can replace Reilly before long. Who knows?




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30 Apr 2021 16:28:05
I apologize Anderson. I thought you were mostly just a leaf basher and on your high horse about the habs. I think it started when you were saying that Montreal is the team to beat, as well as the leafs trading their 1st for Foligno. That’s my problem because it’s just your opinion. No apologies to Balsam, he’s been the biggest troll bashing the leafs for years. I love it when you guys give it to Nylander. I don’t care what team anyone cheers for, no need to be a d *ck. My biggest issue with people is judging a player by the jersey they wear.





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