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15 Apr 2021 23:17:32
New York Rangers- Kappo Kakko, Chris Kiriender (cap), Nils Lundqvist, Georgiev, 1st 2021 and 1st 2022

Buffalo- Jack Eichel and Colin Miller 50% retained

Is this a solid offseason trade?

Nylander

1.) 16 Apr 2021 11:37:17
A 2nd/ 3rd Liner, a 29 year old, a mediocre prospect, backup goalie and 2 firsts for a “top 100” player and a top 4 d

You critiqued mine harshly and then post this crap.


2.) 16 Apr 2021 11:38:36
In all honesty though it really isn’t that bad I guess. Need a better prospect coming back to replace the 2022 first. If I was them I’d ask for Kakko and Fox.


3.) 16 Apr 2021 16:04:07
Fox is a top 10 dman in the NHL quietly.


4.) 16 Apr 2021 16:55:57
NotaCasual the difference is Kakko is a much better prospect than anything Calgary has to offer.
I think this one is pretty accurate in terms of value, it would take an offer like this to get Eichel.
I could see Kakko, Georgiev, Strome and 2 firsts.


5.) 16 Apr 2021 17:58:16
With Lindqist as well.


6.) 16 Apr 2021 19:41:55
Strome has zero value but I guess he could be in there I place of Kriender.


7.) 19 Apr 2021 20:38:09
Nylander the self proclaim genius, could you explain to me how Ryan Strome who has 44 point in 45 games this year has no value?


 

 

09 Apr 2021 11:52:17
Nick Foligno will be traded to the leafs in a 3 way trade i'm calling it now. Kerfoot will end up in San Jose and there's also a chance Andersen is on the move to Buffalo/Dertroit/Arizona. If not he'll remain on LTIR until he is fully healthy

Nylander

1.) 09 Apr 2021 13:38:49
I’d way rather Foligno than Hall. I think the leafs need to focus on defensive forwards. A 3 way deal is a tough one to call, you must have read something.


 

 

30 Mar 2021 18:17:34
My guess on where Hall goes.

Toronto- Kerfoot, Hirovainen or Hallander and 2nd 2021

Buffalo- Taylor Hall 50% retained

Or

Boston- Jake Debrusk and 2nd 2021

Buffalo- Taylor Hall 50% retained

Bookmark this. Hall doesn't return a 1st.

Nylander

1.) 30 Mar 2021 20:02:59
I’d rather jake DeBrusk and a 2nd than the Bruins first anyway.


2.) 30 Mar 2021 21:54:17
I agree, I think with how the market is, it’ll be really tough to get good value for players and bUffalo may end up taking a bad offer at trade deadline to get something for Hall.


3.) 31 Mar 2021 00:09:07
Jake Debrusk is a valuable cap dump. He pretty much needs to be in any deal the Bruins make.


4.) 31 Mar 2021 05:20:22
Maybe a conditional 1st +, similar to the Kane trade a couple years ago.


5.) 31 Mar 2021 13:30:52
I like the Debrusk trade.


 

 

22 Feb 2021 15:19:08
Imo the leafs are going to make a huge push this season this deadline I could see 2 or 3 players added easily. Specifically a top 6 LW and maybe Chris Tierny

Note- RETAINING 50% OF A CONTRACT isn't A BIG DEAL FOR A RENTAL AT DEADLINE BECAUSE 75% OF ACTUAL SALARY IS ALREADY PAID SO IT doesn't MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN VALUE TO THE OTHER TEAMS. Think about it, it's logic and their are many examples.

Toronto- Jimmy Vesey and 2021 3rd

Vancouver- Tanner Pearson 50% retained

Toronto- The leafs get a solid 3rd line LW

Vancouver- is out of it and will move him to the highest bidder. I don't think any American team will want to deal with border issues so the bidding war will probably be between Montreal, Winnipeg and Toronto. I think that's the best offer they get.

Ottawa- Chris Tiereny 50% retained

Toronto- Alex Kerfoot, B prospect and 2nd 2021

Ottawa- the sens get a decent replacement who is more gifted offensively but is only mediocre defensively and they get 2 nice pieces for the future. He'll be moved to the highest bidder most likely unless if resigned. I think this gets him.

Toronto- gets a solid 2way 3C PKer.

Now the big piece at the deadline they're looking to acquire is rumoured to be Viktor Avidsson, Mikeal Granlund and Rickard Rakell. IMO Avidsson is the best fit.

Nashville- Viktor Avidsson 50% retained

Toronto- Pierre Engvail, Timothy Lilijgren and 1st 2021

Nashville- The predators will be sellers at the deadline and 2 1sts for Avidsson is a huge hull

Toronto- the leafs get a hard working top 6 winger he's a player you want in the playoffs

Lines-
Thortan-Mathews-Marner
Avidsson-Tavares-Nylander
Hyman-Tierny-Mikeyhev
Pearson-Spezza-Simmonds

Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Holl
Dermott-Bogosian

Andersen
Campbell

Note- Thortan is listed on 1st line because of Chemistry but he will be shuffled around in playoffs due to fatigue Pearson/Hyman/Thortan will be moving around.

This is a cup caliber lineup imo it's a stronger roster then LA/Pittsburgh when they won their cups.

Nylander

1.) 22 Feb 2021 18:06:26
Pearson could fetch more than just a 3rd, Vesey is essentially worthless considering how he's played for the Leafs, and especially with 50% retention. I'd say Pearson at 50% is probably a 2nd + some depth AHL'ers like Vesey, a 3rd seems too minimal.

Tierney really isn't worth it, Kerfoot's underlyings show him as a solid enough defensive player and he also has more points at the moment. I definitely wouldn't be adding a B prospect and a 2nd to Kerf to upgrade, unless you're considering Kerf a cap dump, which again I think would be kinda harsh for a decent enough 2LW/ above average 3C with 4-7-11 in 19 games. Even though Tierney's retained 50%, I don't think all that for a rental is really worth it.

The Arvidsson trade feels like too little from Toronto as well. Engvall is a cap piece, that's all he is - Arvidsson at 50% for the next 3 years is 2.3 dead cap for the Preds, and the return is Liljegren, who is likely a #4 dman at the NHL level and a 1st which is likely to be between 26 and 32? Although he hasn't had a very good year, coupled with his struggles last year, I still think that at 50% as a non-rental at his age, he could probably get a bit more. Maybe I'm wrong, but that (Lilj/ 1st/ Engvall) is similar to Kappy's return from Pittsburgh, and I think Arvidsson>>Kappy.


2.) 22 Feb 2021 18:26:23
Nylanders trade is fairly similar to the Zucker trade just with retention. Might have to add a little but it’s probably pretty close IMO.


3.) 22 Feb 2021 19:14:15
You know what I think you’re right with the 3rd being upgraded to a 2nd in the Pearson trade. I’m sure that’d get it done because I’m sure their won’t be a huge bidding war.

The Zucker trade was a comparison.

I see tierny as a lot better fit for a shutdown centre then Kerfoot.


4.) 22 Feb 2021 19:30:50
I see where you're going with Tierney. Thing is, I like Kerf on the Tavares wing tbh, but I do get wanting to get Tierney. That's a toughie. If we don't include the Arvidsson trade, and keep Kerfoot, and send Ottawa a B prospect + 2nd + 3rd or so, I think we'd be able to get Tierney, cause I do agree that a third line of Mikheyev-Tierney-Hyman would be an excellent matchup line.

Coming back to the Arvidsson trade, I myself forgot about the Zucker/ Addison trade, haha, and looking at it again, it's pretty similar. I guess the Kappy trade isn't really a fair comparasion cause Rutherford did overpay for him, but I think the age difference between Zucker and Arvidsson, + the retention would probably warrant an extra 2nd or so. that's my bad for forgetting the Zucker trade though, haha.


5.) 22 Feb 2021 20:57:09
I think it’s a forgone conclusion that a top 6 winger is added to the leafs wether it be Avidsson or someone else. Tiereny would be such a good add tho would be nice if they wouldn’t need to add as much to Kerfoot.


6.) 22 Feb 2021 23:55:28
I am sure every team in the league is going to retain 50%salary, to help the Leafs.


7.) 23 Feb 2021 04:22:47
Why wouldn’t they? If the leafs are giving them assets. They’re rentals whoever wins the bidding war gets them.


8.) 24 Feb 2021 23:09:40
With little to no fans in the stands, teams that won't be making the playoffs will also want to cut salary because of the huge cash losses taking place. if the leafs want teams to retain 50%, they will be paying a much higher price.


 

 

19 Feb 2021 17:58:17
3way trade

Colorado- John Gibson and Rickard Rakell

Toronto- Philip Grubauer

Anaheim- Alex Newhook, Bowen Byram, Timothy Lilijgren and 1st 2021 ( Toronto )

Colorado- gets the best goalie in NHL signed long term at a cheap cap his and a solid 2nd line winger signed to a cheap cap hit.

Toronto- the leafs get a starter who is probably a upgrade on Fredrick Anderson. Freddy Anderson could then be moved to Pittsburgh or Washington for a pick.

Anaheim- Jump starts their rebuild with 4 huge Pieces.

Nylander

1.) 19 Feb 2021 18:15:40
why does the leafs need another goalie they have campbell, freddy, and dell.


2.) 19 Feb 2021 19:40:26
Anaheim comes out way ahead. I think it would be a maaaaaybe from Colorado and only because there team is stacked and Gibson is around the age of the core group.


3.) 19 Feb 2021 20:12:41
Ebsolutely I don’t think you understand how good Gibson is. He is the most valuable goalie in NHL hands down.


4.) 19 Feb 2021 20:49:05
Pens Grubauer is younger and cheaper.


5.) 19 Feb 2021 20:53:27
Not sure any of these teams would accept the offer. Grubauer is a solid starter for Colorado, Toronto is happy with their tandem and Gibson is the solid goalie Anaheim needs to remain somewhat competitive as they rebuild.


6.) 19 Feb 2021 22:10:55
I understand he’s been underrated his whole career. Colorado won’t trade that much of there future for a marginal upgrade. They can get a .920% for much cheaper. Arizona might like one of those three pieces for Kuemper.


7.) 19 Feb 2021 23:04:43
I don’t think any team entertains that deal. All 3 probably have zero interest, but PENS, leafs don’t have Dell anymore. He was claimed on waivers by the Devils a while ago.


8.) 19 Feb 2021 23:11:16
Nylander: to say Grubraur is younger and cheaper than Andersen is true, but he’s only 2 years younger AND he’s only cheaper till this June. He’s $3.3M and a UFA. So you trade for him and then he walks for nothing. Or you lose leverage because him and his agents know what you gave up for him. If you think he’s going to give up his 1 chance at UFA and sign on to be the starter for the Maple Leafs without a significant raise, you’re dreaming.


9.) 19 Feb 2021 23:29:38
Anaheim won't be competitive for a while my guy.


10.) 20 Feb 2021 01:00:31
Just looked up Grubauers numbers and there impressive. Him and Kuemper or someone capable of being a 1B would be a really good goalie tandem.


11.) 22 Feb 2021 02:03:40
Why doesn't Toronto try for Gibson then? 1st this year, 1st next year, sandin and nic roberts (i think that's his name)


 

 

 

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12 Apr 2021 01:10:58
I wonder how MoxNix and NotACasual feel after seeing literally every trade made being 50% retained

Am I a genius or was it just common sense that no contender can make trades without 50% retention?

Nylander

1.) 12 Apr 2021 05:54:48
Well obviously your not a genius nobody should be surprised about the salary retention but I am surprised with the low return some teams got back after retaining salary. not the foligno deal mind you but a lot of teams didn’t get a good return so far.


2.) 12 Apr 2021 12:01:05
No surprise but shocking at how low everybody is getting these players for. Especially in a weaker draft


3.) 12 Apr 2021 15:28:21
Your an absolute genius VB, I don't know what you do for a living, or if your in college, but whatever it is. you need to quit. and become a GM in the NHL right now!


 

 

27 Mar 2021 21:06:30
Woah what a surprise Erik Staal moved at 50% retained! I thought no body retains on contracts or is it just the leafs no one retains on?

Nylander

1.) 30 Mar 2021 13:52:20
There’s a difference. a bottom feeding team on double digit losing streak retaining 50% on a 3mil 1yr contract as opposed to a decent team retaining 50% on a star player (Forsberg) @ 6mil for 2 years. do you not see the difference or?


2.) 30 Mar 2021 14:50:14
At the time of the 50% Forsburg deals the Preds were in the same position as the Sabres. The Preds are hott now. They won’t sell their players anymore.


3.) 30 Mar 2021 23:22:01
@Nylander, yes they were in a similar position.

The key difference is term. Retaining on a rental for a higher return is a common idea for trades in the NHL today as contenders look to bolster their roster for the playoffs.

Asking teams like Detroit for Mantha or Nashville for Forsberg to retain on guys with term is likely a non starter given the current economic environment for teams now.

Teams selling their players very likely would prefer not to retain on term if possible. Not saying it won’t happen but it’s far more rare than retaining salary on a rental like Eric Staal.


4.) 31 Mar 2021 16:36:22
Forsburg has 1.5 years left. That is much different then Manthas situation.


5.) 31 Mar 2021 22:38:25
Yes their terms on different. If you ask for Forsberg at the 1 year left, Nashville would consider retaining.

Even with the extra half year, teams are less willing to hold onto salary if they don’t have to. There are teams who could probably take Forsberg for 1.5 years and no retention.

They may send cap back but it’s smarter for Nashville to take a player with cap back they can use rather than dead retained salary sitting on their books.

Same with Detroit, we would take salary back if we move Mantha . That would save us dead cap and if the salary is so bad that you’re sending, then you may need to add.


 

 

03 Mar 2021 15:22:28
Just curious to see who you'd guys would take on your team

Rasmus Dahlin or Austin Mathews

Personally I'm very on Dahlin becoming a top 5 dman in NHL history so I definitely take him.

Nylander

1.) 03 Mar 2021 15:44:03
Matthews. Dahlin is overhyped. he's good, but not as great as he's made out to be. Let's see what happens in a few years, as dmen take longer to hit prime.


2.) 04 Mar 2021 18:01:32
Matthews best pure goal scorer Dahlin was pumped up going into the draft and i think he’s good he just need to play in a different market.


3.) 05 Mar 2021 18:43:27
It’s way too early to decide on this. Dmen take longer to develop. Unfair comparison at this point.


 

 

16 Feb 2021 23:51:30
People need to get off their high horses with Sam Bennet he's a great 4th liner and a serviceable 3rd liner he had 2 good playoffs but the reality is he's a dime in a dozen type of player. He asked for a trade and his values extremely low. Jack Roslovic is a comparible. Players like Bennet, Lawson Couse, Nick Ritchie, Arturi Lehkonen, Patrick Maroon, Casey Cizikas, Joel Armia, etc they're all useful come playoff time but they carry more value to their teams then others.

The flames will get a 2nd or 3rd from a team like Columbus at deadline and that'll be end of story.

Nylander

1.) 17 Feb 2021 10:56:27
Well I mean Jack Roslovic has 10pts in 10 games so if that’s you’re comparable Bennett should hold value lol


2.) 17 Feb 2021 11:07:03
You’re getting mad that we don’t agree with what you think Bennett is worth.
“ The flames will get a 2nd or 3rd from a team like Columbus at the deadline and that’ll be end of story. “
If we don’t agree with your opinion then we’re on our high horses? Don’t get so pressed.
Sounds like you think your opinion is more accurate/better than ours so would that mean you should get off your high horse?


3.) 17 Feb 2021 13:53:08
I really don’t understand why people consider a 4th line player to hold significant value. Yes he has good playoff stats but look at the players I mentioned. A change of scenery did do wonders for Roslovic but at the time his value was low like Bennets.


4.) 17 Feb 2021 15:47:51
I don’t think a lot of people think he holds crazy value or at least I haven’t seen it. I think the 2nd +/ - could be accurate.


5.) 17 Feb 2021 16:23:52
Nobody thinks Bennett is a superstar. Since day one you’ve been on your high horse of hockey knowledge. As a fellow leaf fan, I’ve been here to try to keep you grounded. When the going gets tough in the playoffs, Bennett comes to play. Nylander goes to get his nails and hair done.


6.) 17 Feb 2021 18:27:20
William Nylander playoff stats- 25GP 5G 10A 15P 0.6PPG

Sam Bennet Playoff stats- 30GP 11G 8A 19P 0.63PPG

Mathew Tkachuk Playoff stats- 15GP 3G 2A 5P 0.33PPG

Who has more value Tkachuk the guy painting his nails in playoffs or Sam Bennet? No denying Brennet is solid in playoffs but Nylander is as well and triples his production in regular season. Like I said you don’t trade a star player for a grinder. A grinder can be found/ had for a lot cheaper. Look at Patty Maroon is he worth Guadreau. I’d say Nylander=Guadreau.


7.) 17 Feb 2021 18:42:54
Ohh wow Bennett’s playoff numbers are impressive. I change my mind to at least a 2nd. Might be a guy a team will overpay for.


8.) 17 Feb 2021 22:23:57
Yeah ebs Bennett is a monster in the playoffs like I don’t understand lmaoo, he’s been the flames mvp every playoffs


9.) 18 Feb 2021 05:53:16
Nobody said trade a star player for a grinder straight up. You’re one of those guys that only look at points. Nylander’s point totals this year are not that bad, he’s just invisible most games. Once in a while he does a couple laps around the offensive zone before heading to the salon when the play goes the other way. Come playoff time, I’d take Bennett or Tkachuk over Nylander any day. I’d be curious to see how many points Bennett could put up with Tavares or Matthews. Nylander has always played with high end talent.


10.) 18 Feb 2021 15:39:43
Not everyone has the ability to play with high end talent. Also compare Hymans point totals to Nylanders both play with same linemates. You’re in the minority’s of leaf fan’s opinion and clearly you have zero logic if you think Nylander is moved this year. I’d rather see Marner moved being a near 11 million dollar player.


11.) 18 Feb 2021 19:35:59
I try to be realistic and not a homer. There is no denying Nylander's skill and he probably won’t be traded. Dubas said he’s keeping all 4 and he’ll probably stick to his word. A lot of coaches would rather a guy like Hyman over Nylander. Especially when you have other guys that can score. Hyman’s work ethic, ability to turn pucks over and win puck battles is hard to to find. Nylander’s contract makes him more likely to be traded than Marner. You should know this.


12.) 18 Feb 2021 21:56:45
I agree with that except one thing. Work ethic can be taught easier then talent. Players like Hyman are a dime in a dozen. Players with Nylanders talent are much harder to find.


13.) 19 Feb 2021 05:09:04
I disagree that players like Hyman are dime a dozen. Work ethic comes with heart, that can’t be taught. He has been near the top of the league in take aways year after year. Somehow you turned this into Hyman versus Nylander. If I was a GM lacking scoring, I’d be all over Nylander. If I had other players that can score, I’d fill the rest of the team with guys with heart. Nylander is best suited with 2 line mates that do all the dirty work. That way he doesn’t break a nail in the corner.


14.) 19 Feb 2021 14:03:58
There’s a reason why Nylander is worth multiple 1sts and top prospects and Hyman isn’t. think about that.


15.) 20 Feb 2021 15:33:19
You get 3 hard working Hyman’s for the price of one pretty boy. Think about that.


16.) 20 Feb 2021 21:09:25
Come playoff time yes Bennett shows up

However, if your team needs to get in the playoffs he is a ghost

How valuable is Bennett if your team somehow missed the playoffs.

That’s why right now Bennett has no value unless a gm thinks 100% his team is in a playoff spot. However, due to injuries and C.V. even right now no team can guarantee their spot in playoffs, this is why he is difficult to trade as gms won’t spend capital for a regular season flopper.

Come trade deadline things change because some teams know they are in the playoffs guarenteed thus tend to deal for the Bennett tuoe(season pooper playoff performer) thus Bennett value gets teams 2nd rounders for these guys.

If a player can’t help you get into the playoffs then his regular season value is low.

That’s why so many grinders are dealt at deadline time not this time of year


 

 

20 Jan 2021 15:12:01
Contract and age aside who is the better player right now?

Philip Danault or Anthony Cirelli

Personally I'd go with Danault I see him doing more with less and I also controversially see him as the better defensive player.

Nylander

1.) 21 Jan 2021 00:37:02
Im a habs fan so I have to go with Danault but Cirelli will be a Selke winner for years to come.


2.) 21 Jan 2021 00:57:08
I don't think ya can go wrong with either one. Which one is better at face offs? I'll go with him lol.


3.) 22 Jan 2021 07:23:49
Danault, you can’t go wrong with either though.


 

 

 

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22 Apr 2021 05:26:31
I’d love to see how your brain works I’d like to sit down and just talk to you to see what’s going on inside of there.

Value wise this is bad for leafs and needs wise it is 10x worse.

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22 Apr 2021 02:46:54
Easy no from Toronto what is their incentive?

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21 Apr 2021 05:27:38
Take out Cam Fowler and Manson because they hold zero value to Sabres.

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20 Apr 2021 12:39:12
Larsson replaces Hamonic.

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18 Apr 2021 16:24:34
Take out Turcotte and it’s fair.

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