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21 Nov 2021 01:02:47
Dallas/ Toronto UFA Deal:

Toronto Acquires:
- Joe Pavelski @50% Retention

Dallas Acquires:
- Nick Ritchie
- Roni Hirvonen
- 2022 2nd Round Pick

Forwards don’t cost as much as dman, and considering the difference between a guy like Hall (2nd+Bjork) and Foligno (1st+3rd), I think Pavelskis playstyle falls closer to Hall. So 2nd+Ritchie (whos been god awful but hockey GMs overvalue players like him even though he provides nothing besides being 6’3) should be similar to the Hall return, and Hirvonen is an addition for the 50% retention.


1.) 21 Nov 2021 22:02:39
I don’t mind it, however I think a better prospect would need to be going back to Dallas. Or swap the 2nd for a 1st and take out the prospect. Just comparing it to what Foligno got.

2.) 22 Nov 2021 05:50:52
Hirvonens actually a pretty decent prospect, mid-late second rounder in Finland, so I actually think him+2nd outvalues a presuambly low 1st, but Amirov/ Robertson > Hirvonen+2nd. I wouldn't be opposed to Ritchie+1st but I think Dallas may honestly prefer Hirvonen and the 2nd.

3.) 22 Nov 2021 09:54:43
Yeah, I could see Dallas doing something like this if they’re out of a playoff spot by the trade deadline. Good deal.

4.) 22 Nov 2021 19:44:54
What do the Calgary Flames need to send to get Pavelski @ 50% retained? He'd be a great 2nd Line Centre/ RW IMO.

Line 2: Mangiapane-Pavelski-Dube/ Rucizka
Line 3: Coleman-Backlund-Duehr/ Rucizka/ Dube/ Pitlick.

5.) 26 Nov 2021 03:51:18
Pavelski is likely worth more to a top team as a deadline rental than he is now. Assuming he's playing well and the Stars aren't looking like they'll make the playoffs.

6.) 26 Nov 2021 11:49:31
Pavelski has been one of my favourite players for years. He’s a clutch playoff performer and destroyed the red wings every time they met up. I do think the leafs should add someone with a Stanley cup though. They have some nice leadership in Spezza and Simmonds, but Muzzin is the only guy that’s one a cup.



18 Nov 2021 20:24:12
If Eichel actually returns pre-playoffs like he says he is.

Vegas Acquires:
Julien Gauthier (Buriable Contract)
2022 3rd Round Pick
2022 6th Round Pick

NY Rangers Acquire:
Reilly Smith

Vegas Acquires:
Pierre Engvall (Toronto retains 7.5% - Buriable Contract)

Toronto Acquires:
Mattias Janmark
2022 6th Round Pick (NYR)

Vegas alleviates 7 mill in cap space, which will be enough to get them to the cap ceiling - both Engvall and Gauthier are decent 12/ 13 forwards but more importantly are buriable contracts with Engvall's slight retention.

There's not going to be many teams that will line up to help Vegas, but Toronto has enough space to replace Engvall with Janmark with little harm done to the roster, which is all-in-all and upgrade for the team, and the Rangers have nearly 6 million in cap space, more than enough for a quality top 6 player in Smith.

Again, if Eichel Kucherovs, then none of this needs to happen. But Eichel himself said he wanted to play in the RS, and if he does, Vegas needs to maneuver one way or another.


1.) 19 Nov 2021 00:58:56
Honesty thinking he’s going to have to Kucherov whether he likes it or not.

2.) 19 Nov 2021 08:08:06
Yeah that's what I thinks actually going to happen, its just that Eichels super outspoken on stuff (not saying the surgery was the wrong decision, imo Buffalo was totally in the wrong there), but the way he conducted his interview with Elliotte Freideman after the trade kinda showed that he's not really shy to back down, and if he wants games before the playoffs, itll kinda be tough to convince him otherwise. Will be interesting though.



25 Sep 2021 18:12:35
Colt hit a home run, Brown for Sanford and a pick announced today.


1.) 25 Sep 2021 22:49:39
Colt had the pick going the wrong way. He wanted Sanford and a 3rd for Brown. The actual trade that went down is Brown and a conditional pick for Sanford.

2.) 25 Sep 2021 23:25:44
It actually gets the ottawa senators to the cap floor. And Blues lose 1.3 in cap. Withe other moves blues are now .735 mil under cap.

3.) 26 Sep 2021 08:49:35
I just came here to say that wow.

4.) 28 Sep 2021 09:29:27
MoNix. it was Sanford and a conditional 4th rounder for Brown. If Brown suits up for less than thirty games, Sens get a 4th rounder.

5.) 28 Sep 2021 13:46:28
Seabass that's not what I'm seeing reported. It says the 4th goes to the Blues but if Brown plays more than 30 games the pick is removed from the deal.

6.) 28 Sep 2021 18:24:07
Army is ruthless and save blues 1.4 mil boom.

7.) 28 Oct 2021 20:41:51
Everything about this transaction was a score. Ottawa receives and active NHL player with flexibility and the type of character the team looks for overall. While St Louis also receives the financial benefits (at the time) to better manage themselves. Fortunately through all this Ottawa unloaded what begin to be a growing problem with a stubborn player whos been waived in less time then he could have placed his uniform on.



17 Jul 2021 20:16:52
Wild day:

Ryan Ellis for Myers and Patrick.

Patrick then shipped for Glass.

McCann for Hallander.

Dickinson for a 3rd to VAN

Goodrow for a 6.




26 Jun 2021 20:11:20
Just a couple of ideas regarding three likely trade candidates that people aren't talking too much about:

Trade 1:

Edmonton Trades:
- Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (UFA: Sign and Trade; 7M x 6 years)
- Phillip Broberg
- 2022 2nd Round Draft Pick

Columbus Trades:
- Patrik Laine (RFA: Sign and Trade: 6M x 4 years)
- Scott Harrington

RNH doesn't hold much value as a UFA, but would be a nice fit as the first line center in Columbus, so they acquire his early negotiation rights and get him as a sign and trade. Laine for Broberg and a pick is probably close; Laine is at an all time low and probably doesn't fit with Columbus for the next few years, Broberg would be a nice replacement for Jones next to Werenski in the next few years and a 2nd round pick is always a nice get. For Edmonton, they take a chance on one of the best shooters in the league who's fallen far from his original value. Honestly, putting Laine next to McDavid for at least the next four years may be the most lethal combination in the league (top10 shot in the league next to the best player/ passer in the league)

Trade 2:

Vegas Trades:
- Reilly Smith
- Cody Glass
- Nick Holden
- 2021 1st Round Draft Pick

Washington Trades:
- Evgeny Kuznetsov
- Daniel Sprong
- 2021 3rd Round Draft Pick

Another trade of a player who's probably at his lowest value all-time in Kuznetsov. Although a very good player, lots of rumors from Washington have painted him as a guy who doesn't buy into the teams systems and is lazy - essentially, the scapegoat for the team after losing in round 1 again. Vegas could use a true 1st line center (Stephenson is a better 3C), and bringing in a disgruntled Kuznetsov for a lower cost than normal may be well worth it. Reilly Smith had a very middling playoffs, and is essentially a salary cap filler (only 25 points in the RS too, not great) ; Holden's a complete cap dump, so Glass and a 1st essentially for Kuznetsov and a 3rd. Glass is a reclamation project and could be nice behind Backstrom and Eller in Washington, and moving up 2 rounds to make up for the Mantha pick is worth it imo.

Trade 3:

Arizona Trades:
Oliver Ekman-Larsson

Boston Trades:
Ondrej Kase
Jake DeBrusk
2021 1st Round Draft Pick
2022 3rd Round Draft Pick

OEL is a shell of his former self, but he's still a pretty reliable #2-3 dman in the league, and would fit well on a pairing with Brandon Carlo. Boston has a ton of cap-space, and DeBrusk hasn't performed well at all in the last two years. Kase has been injured, and would likely be exposed to Seattle, so he gets added too as a reclamation project for Arizona. They also pick up a 1st rounder - a pick which they had to forfeit this year because of the scouting scandals and whatnot. For an 8mill dman who's slightly past his prime, without any retention, I think this price is about right - it looks low, but I don't know that OEL goes for much more.

Been a while since I posted actual trades, am I rusty? Haha.


1.) 27 Jun 2021 02:52:13
Not enough for Laine. Nuge holds zero value he will sign there for free.

2.) 27 Jun 2021 06:52:03
I do think that's a little light for Laine.
Also, I beleive the OEL one is to much of a price for the Bruins to pay.

Edmonton should try and make a play for DeBrusk.

3.) 27 Jun 2021 17:14:35
Laine isn't going to sign for less than he makes now. Nuge probably doesn't get 7 mil/ year either.

No way Vegas does that trade with Washington. There's a huge cap disparity, Vegas can't afford a contract like Kuznetsov's unless there's a similar contract going the other way.

Nobody wants OEL. Not with that contract anyhow unless there's heavy retention by Arizona and if they're going to do that they might as well just keep him.

4.) 27 Jun 2021 17:36:33
Broberg and the 2nd is at least as valuable as the 8th pick you proposed for Laine, Nylander.

5.) 27 Jun 2021 19:32:15
I was kinda on the same boat with OEL not having much value, but I feel like GMs may still like him as a player because of his name quality tho, and a team like Boston makes a lot of sense because of how much cap they open up with Rask, Halak, Krejci and Hall gone. I think maybe knocking the 1st to a 2nd may be closer, cause its essentially Debrusk and the 2nd with Kase as a complete unknown variable added cause he makes like 2.5mill.

For the Vegas one, I think the cap matches. Smith makes nearly 6, Holden makes 1.7 and Kuznetsov makes 7.5 or so. With Martinez walking too, the cap aligns pretty well. It may be too high for a depreciating Kuznetsov, but then I could see Washington upping to a 2nd instead of a 3rd.

And yeah for Laine, probably a little bit more needs to be added to Broberg, I’m not too close with Edmonton prospects but I’m pretty sure Ryan McLeod is a B prospect, so adding him or potentially someone like Jesse (or another 2nd, maybe? ) should make it closer. A Laine trade probably doesn’t happen, but I do think Laine’s value is at an all time low and Edmonton shouod be all over that type of opportunity to pair him with one of their two centers.

6.) 27 Jun 2021 23:21:14
I didn't realize Reilly Smith makes 5 mil/ yr, he's a little more productive than I thought he was too. But he's also older than I thought (a year older than Kuznetsov) and UFA in a year.

Laine I don't see Jarmo trading Laine now after what he gave up to get him. IMO he's more likely to trade Bjorkstrand than Laine.

Unless Columbus decides to blow it all up and rebuild from scratch, which they might do if they can't resign Laine and Jones. Then they trade Jones, Laine, Werenski and maybe Bjorkstrand too. Or they might keep Bjorkstrand since he's signed until 2026.

7.) 28 Jun 2021 01:10:05
I think a team would rather have the 8th overall pick and pick their own prospect but that’s a fair point.

8.) 29 Jun 2021 17:57:10
Nuge will be staying in Edmonton. He just signed for 8 years at 5.125 mil/ yr with a NMC.




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29 Oct 2021 17:22:42
Rielly 7.5x8

Its not god awful, considering Rielly originally was paid 5, Kessel’s cap hit was 1.2 (still lmfao) and the cap is increasing by 1, nothing really changes.

Rielly’s been our beet dman this season considering how badly Muzzin has regressed so far. Hopefully Muzzin turns it around, but I think the fact that Muzz-Holl has been so bad + Mo taking less than guys like Jones/ Nurse/ Heiskanen, etc. makes the deal look better. Kinda stumps Sandin and Liljegren though, but I do think one of Holl/ Dermott is going to be moved for offence (presuambly Holl unless Sandin/ Dermott suddenly starts playing terribly)


1.) 29 Oct 2021 18:19:24
Yeah, not too bad for the Leafs. A little high for a little too long, but not a killer contract.

2.) 29 Oct 2021 18:36:03
What makes this deal look amazing is Nurses/ Jones contracts. He would’ve gotten a lot on the open market. He took a big discount.

3.) 29 Oct 2021 18:52:00
I thought that was a great signing. Little long, but still good for right now.
I don't think they need to trade defense for forwards though.

4.) 29 Oct 2021 18:52:10
I think it was a really good signing by Leafs.
Rielly is a really good Dman. Maybe not a true Norris contender, and there are better number 1 guys forsure, but he's not a bad top pairing guy. He's more of a 1B than a 1A guy. I think 7.5 for 8 is a really fair deal.

To bad Dubas didn't sign Marner and Mathews to better deals like this.

5.) 29 Oct 2021 23:33:06
I think Reilly was a good signing, Nylander’s contract is looking better every day. Tavares is definitely over paid, that’s free agency. Other teams offered more, maybe the leafs should have passed on him. Matthews I’d say might be a little over paid. Marner is over paid by a couple million. I won’t defend Dubas, but no GM planned for a c.v. and a flat cap. I’ll fully admit that I would’ve traded Nylander the second he held out. Mostly to set the tone for Matthews and Marner. I probably would look like an ass now that Nylander seems like he wants to play a 200’ game. It’s a lot easier for us armchair GM’s.

6.) 31 Oct 2021 10:01:48
Nurse is overpaid and at this point he’s better than Rielly.
Rielly got *around* the cash he deserved (I think 6.5-7 is more his value for the term) but also just like Nurse the term is a little long.



27 Jul 2021 16:14:09
I get trading MAF (sorta kinda, even then, he's the face of the franchise), but his agent just said that they weren't even informed of the trade by Vegas and only found out via twitter. F*** Vegas, they’ve probably become the most unlikable team in the league w how their mgmt works (trying to GM like its NHL21 w that bozo McPhee [Erat for Forsberg guy nonetheless], their social media guy is insufferable and their fans all don’t know anything ab hockey.


1.) 27 Jul 2021 16:28:20
Talk is he would not sign off on any trade as he wanted to stay in Vegas because of family reasons, most people think he’s going to just retire now,

2.) 27 Jul 2021 19:19:51
I just read that. that's a horrible way to treat anyone, especially a classy guy like MAF who, like you said, was the face of the franchise.

3.) 27 Jul 2021 20:54:07
I’d rather raise a family in Chicago then Vegas. No idea why he wants to raise a family there.

4.) 28 Jul 2021 02:27:28
I read one article saying he was going to discuss his future with his family. people might have read that and thought that to mean he wanted to stay in Vegas because of family reason. Not sure how old his kids are but yeah I would agree Vegas wouldn’t be my top choice to raise a family either. maybe his wife has some type of connection with the city I don’t know.



21 Jul 2021 19:33:20
And mccann is gone…

Logically, trading Hallander to secure Kerfoot and Holl is better than paying our remaining 2nd to Seattle (since we have no picks this year apart from the 2nd lmfao)

Emotionally, wtf. Only the Leafs would do something like this. Its so stupid, lmfao. McCanns better than Kerfoot anyway, and Holl is a proped up 5th dman who (now that the Leafs protected) will call a 2nd pair shutdown dman just to save face.

Justin Holl is a byproduct of Jake Muzzin. Justin Holl is not a top 4 dman without Jake Muzzin. If Jake Muzzin falls off, Holl falls of even harder. Keeping him, and Dermott, only to stunt prospect growth is unfathomably stupid from the GM and management. Yet, when you make these types of comments to coping Leafs fans, you’re called a fake fan or whatnot because you still have to be optimistic about running back the same team that blew a 3-1 lead and has done nothing this offseason to instil any hope in it.

Man i’m just pissed. Whatever though.


1.) 21 Jul 2021 23:46:44
I have to agree. losing one of dermott or holl would have been better then this outcome. they give up probably there 5th or 6th prospect just to get McCann and then instead of going the 7-3-1 route and keeping him they do this instead. I mean It wasn’t even a given that Seattle would take holl considering the amount of dmen that were available.

2.) 21 Jul 2021 23:52:21
I was trying to explain why this was stupid to leafs fans on social media. I agree with everything you said.

3.) 22 Jul 2021 01:54:13
a 7th rounder and a no name prospect to keep your roster intact is a small price to pay if that's what you want to do as a gm.

that being said.

muzzin was a by product of doughty a few years ago

holl is decent, worth keeping.

this is seriously no problem whatsoever. nothing to be pissed about, whatever though,

4.) 22 Jul 2021 02:06:33
I really fail to see how McCann is better. McCann has hott stretches but he isn’t consistent. He also doesn’t PK. Kerfoot is very vanilla but he gets the job done on a consistent bases. McCann is better when on his game but he’s hott and cold compared to Kerfoot who showed up when it counted. Also Holl should be valued as he’s cheap and has great chemistry with Muzzin on a non existent right side.



05 Jul 2021 16:11:41
RIP Kivi, the goalie from Columbus. PR wrote that he sustained a ‘tragic injury’, don’t know what the cause was but no matter what, its tough news to hear.

Rest in peace🙏🏻.




01 Jul 2021 16:13:41
Wow. Vik Arvidsson for 2nd and 3rd from LAK. Steal for LA imo, but had to be done since LA is going to protect 4/ 4 in the expansion draft.


1.) 02 Jul 2021 01:27:09
Smart move by both teams in my mind. Only thing I’m wondering is how does this deal affect the overall trade market? Some may argue it’s too much or not enough for Arvidsson but also the expansion draft plays an effect as TopShelf pointed out.

Does this trade get an idea the realm of cost to move players pre-expansion if you have slots at forward vs Defence or vice versa? Thought I’d add this question to discuss.

2.) 02 Jul 2021 14:25:24
Yeah I think it does Datsyuk their will definitely be more moves and GMs will use this to set the Market. My guess is Copp/ Appleton or Matt Dumba is the next trade made.

3.) 02 Jul 2021 16:55:47
@Nylander, I agree that those two are definitely ones to consider as odd ones out for sure with value.

The question is how much are they getting then? I could see Copp/ Appleton get in the range of a 4th-3rd pick with a plus potentially depending on how many teams buying.

Dumba I could see getting maybe 2 2nds as a starter.


4.) 02 Jul 2021 18:11:35
I think those players will get more not necessarily due to buyers lining up for those players but they will require more value as you have to factor in the other player being lost by team x in expansion draft.




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12 Jan 2022 17:23:19
Feel like this would be more likely to happen with a team like Arizona which is more true rebuilding (compared to Detroit who doesn’t look like they’re still trying to add picks/ assets), since they’d likely sit on Ritchie and try to trade him 50% retained next trade deadline for more assets. Also think the 4th should be lowered to like a 6th or so, but good idea overall.




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05 Dec 2021 21:01:29
Ho Sang isn’t being traded, the only reason he’s on an AHL-only deal is because Toronto doesn’t want to run the risk of waiving him because they want him in the AHL and don’t have space on the NHL roster. There’s mutual understanding between his camp and the Leafs, he isn’t going anywhere otherwise he would’ve signed an NHL guaranteed deal with some other team - he believes in Torontos system and Toronto believes in him. Besides, you can’t trade AHL contracts in NHL deals.

Second off, that still seems low for Zacha. Ritchie will probably get traded and won’t cost the Leafs anything to dump because as I’ve said before, NHL GMs are idiots who think useless guys like Ritchie have value, but in a trade package, his value is almost just being a contract filler, not positive/ negative despite the cap hit. Dermotts an eh 6th dman, probably valued decently but with Subban/ Hamilton/ Smith/ Graves/ Severson/ Seig, Dermott isn’t really needed in Jersey. He’s just jn the same situation as in Toronto. The 1st is nice, but to get a guy like Zacha, it’d probably cost a 1st + a prospect, rather than two guys Jersey has minimal use for.




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02 Dec 2021 17:37:13
Toronto is rolling, I do not want anything to do with the mess known as Evander Kane, especially after the video that surfaced on ig. No matter his cap hit, I don’t want that type of persona anywhere near this teAm.




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29 Nov 2021 07:33:35
Honestly without Norris/ Boeser/ Zub, OEL or Myers / Poolman for Zaitsev/ Murray isn’t an awful base just for a change of scenery for everyone involved since all of fhe contracts are dreadful.




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24 Nov 2021 02:02:15
Boeser WITH retention, and you’re giving Vancouver Lucic? Absolutely no chance with a sane GM at Vancouvers helm, howevers its Benning and he could very well trade Hughes for Mike Matheson without batting an eye so who knows lmfao.





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21 Aug 2021 00:33:43

Is my prediction. SJ is too old everywhere, ANA is too young, I’m not feeling Calgary too much unless Markstrom has a bounce back year. I think Vancouver may get in if Demko stands on his head behind that middling dcore, but I think Seattles dcore and goaltending are good enough to snag the third spot, and Edmontons McDraisaitl while Vegas is Vegas.




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02 Aug 2021 16:53:24
Hymans propped up a lot bc he played in Toronto, he's a really good player, but I love the Coleman deal at less AAV and less term so i'd have to say his deal. Both players are very good tho, i'd just give a slight edge to Coleman.




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01 Aug 2021 23:28:44
Honestly, I’m content with what the Leafs did. I wanted more for sure, but the only way anything happens in the playoffs is if Matthews and Marner decide to show up. Adding more offence was what I wanted (Bertuzzi, Garland, etc. ), but honestky, with or without those guys, if Auston and Mitch combine for 1 goal between a combined 14 games, this team is going nowhere. I don’t think Auston’s traded if they fall flat again, but Mitch is on put-up or shut-up at this point if they fail again. I definitely would’ve wanted more, don’t get me wrong, but I feel a lot of the moves are decent enough depth. Bunting was nice in Arizona, and could be a chippy 30 point guy for the team, Kases a complete wild card, and as much as I’m not the biggest Ritchie fan, I like him on the 3-4L - especially since we weren't trading like Liljegren for him (as people have suggested Lily for Crouse before) . The dcore also stayed completely in tact - Sandin in for Bogo is a wash imo, and the goalies honestky improved. I loved years 1-3 Fred, but these last two years have been middling inconsistency. Mrazek is nothing special - he's not a Vasy or Fleury or Price or whatnot, but he's someone who can play 35-40 games easily, which is what we need. Campbell had the best sv% in the playoffs (albeit 7 games), and was very solid, rarely having positional mistakes and whatnot. Sure he isn't the best starter, but I do think he's ready to play 40 or so games, so long as he remains healthy.

In all, I agree that the Leafs probably couldve/ shouldve done more. But this is put up or shut up for Dubas and Marner, if they don't perform in the playoffs, both of them are gone imo. And really, I don't see an issue w making the playoffs either - Tampa lost their entire second line (Gourdes line played more than Stammers), Boston lost Krejci and Ritchie and replaced them with Foligno and Haula (net even or negative imo) and Florida improved. I think Toronto gets in for sure, its just, can this core actually do anything, or is it finally time to burn this bridge?




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29 Jul 2021 04:07:02
Personally would've given 500k extra for Bonino instead of Kampf, sent Engvall and Mikheyev to Arizona for literally nothing since they need players anyway (hell throw in a late pick or so if really need be, but I think Engvall/ Mikheyev for nothing is pretty fair as is) . Then just go bargain bin shopping - Tatar, Kase, Ritchie, trade? Not Kampf man. F***.




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29 Jul 2021 04:05:13

Was the dcore that Toronto ran in 19/ 20 and frankly, it wasn't great. Muzzin couldn't even insulate Barrie, and altho Nurse is a better overall dman i'm not sure if he's a better defensive dman than Muzz is, so that's one task. Keith himself is 5-6 dman, who's a good guy in the locker room probably, but is a shell of himself.

The bottom pairs are about the same tbh, but this feels a lot like that teams dcore (yes, mainly cause its still Barrie and Ceci lol), which wasn't great. Hopefully Nurse steps up, but yeah.