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22 Feb 2021 21:20:11
Never going to happen, but a wild one:

SJS Acquire:
- Sergei Bobrovsky (10 M till 26/ 27)
- Keith Yandle (6M till 23/ 24)
- Brett Connoly (3M till 23/ 24)

FLA Acquires:
- Martin Jones (5.75 M till 24/ 25)
- Erik Karlsson (11.5 M till 27/ 28)
- Marcus Sorensen (1.5M till 21/ 22)

Cap Difference is minimal, it's basically a Bobrovsky for Karlsson swap, with Jones and Yandle included as replacements at their positions.

Florida does this to take a chance on EK, since Bob has essentially lost his starting job to Dreidger, and EK should be a huge upgrade on Yandle, even though he's been pretty brutal in SJ, playing alongside Ekblad, Stralman and Weegar should help. Getting out of Connoly's contract for Sorensen's UFA contract is also a plus, despite having to take on the extra year of Jones compared to Yandle, and the extra year of Karlsson compared to Bob.

SJ does this to take a chance on Bob, who's stunk in Florida, but may be able to turn it around (maybe not, but its equally as likely as Karlsson), and they also get a goalie who is somehow better than whatever Martin Jones provides. Yandle's a dropoff from Karlsson, but he's also a year less than Jones (as is Bob compared to EK), and the difference is taking on Connoly's contract, which may be flippable with retention for a pick or so.

Everyone who has an NMC/ NTC would likely waive here just because its going from a Sunny state to another Sunny state, and everyone could use a change of scenery.

Definitely not realistic at all, but could be a fun trade.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 22 Feb 2021 22:20:01
Holy cow, you really put a lot of thought into that trade! Well explained. As you said not likely, but you've come you with some good reasons to at least think about it.


2.) 22 Feb 2021 22:46:58
I think it’s a super cool idea


3.) 22 Feb 2021 23:56:04
TSS always has the most well thought out posts. hmm. this is really interesting, both Bob and EK could flourish on a new team. would maybe SJ need to add a pick, jus due to the extra year of Karlsson contract, over goalie Bobs I dunno.

Like always TSS well thought out.


4.) 23 Feb 2021 00:37:12
This is definitely an interesting trade well done.

Another point to consider is that the Florida players may reject the deal because of the Florida tax savings to earn more.

So they might just prefer Sunny and Tax free money than a change in scenery.

Overall an intriguing trade proposal.


5.) 23 Feb 2021 00:57:22
Florida adds Karlsson is still a top pairing guy the Sharks just suck. Bob on the other hand isn’t a NHL caliber player.


6.) 23 Feb 2021 03:19:22
Ayeeee, thank you all for the kind words, means a ton! I was just thinking of a way on how Florida may be able to upgrade their team for an even stronger playoff push, and altho Yandles playing well, everyone involved here is def. i. need of a change of scenery. And @datsyuk, i completely forgot about Floridas tax-free state stuff, I don’t think Cali has that, so yeah, Bob and co. may not be so willing to move.

Could def see a pick/ prospect to FLA to balance out the years as well @sosa, since were in a pretty dead cap, so maybe a 3rd or so? Still tho, something like this is so unlikely to happen, but i'm pretty sure this is the only way that guys like EK/ Bob/ Jeff Skinner get moved.


7.) 23 Feb 2021 15:38:22
Very cool idea, good job TSS

I know you said it’s unrealistic and just for fun, but I always think ‘why would the player want this’ after ‘why it makes sense for each team’ and Datsyuk kinda touched on it.

Karlsson makes $11.5M in one of the highest taxed states. For him to go from a nice climate, high tax on a bad team to a nice climate, low tax and better team is a no brainer.

But it was the worst kept secret that Bob was signing in Florida for a year prior. He wanted it, like a lot of Russian guys, for the Miami lifestyle. I see no way he would waive to leave the city he chose and take a massive hit to his bottom line of guaranteed money

But that’s looking deep into a scenario that you know is far fetched and unrealistic to begin with. Great read though and post more because yours are always good and thought provoking!


8.) 23 Feb 2021 22:46:39
Ya. TSS, I think a 3rd or 4th would be fair.
It probably wouldn't happen, like you say, but also like you say, only way to really deal with these outrageous contracts.


 

 

10 Feb 2021 22:51:53
Another top6 winger to the Leafs trade scenario (Elliote keeps pushing this, so, why not? )

Toronto Maple Leafs Trades:
Travis Dermott (0.8 x 1; RFA)
Pierre Engvall (1.25 x 2)
Roni Hirvonen (Unsigned)
2021 1st Round Pick (Unprotected)

Anaheim Trades:
Rickard Rakell (3.8 x 2 - 50% Retained)
2021 5th Round Pick

- Engvall's just included to balance cap, and could be a decent enough fourth liner for Anaheim. Dermott's a good enough fifth or sixth dman for Anaheim, but the real gets are Hirvonen, whos playing well in the Finnish league and had a great WJC, and the first round pick.

- Rakell hasn't had a great season this year, same with last year, but he can easily bounceback to being a top6 forward on a good Leafs team alongside Nylander and Tavares. It may seem like a bit much, but like I said before, i think the going for a good top4 dman/ top 6 forward with a year extra on the deal will mirror the Muzzin deal of before, and this offer may even be better.

Leafs Lines:
Hyman/ Matthews/ Marner
Nylander/ Tavares/ Rakell
Robertson/ Kerfoot/ Thornton
Simmonds/ Spezza/ Mikheyev

Rielly/ Brodie
Muzzin/ Holl
Sandin/ Bogosian

Ducks Lines:
Henrique/ Getzlaf/ Terry
Heinen/ Steel/ Silfverberg
Comtois/ Lundestrom/ Milano
Backes/ Engvall/ Rowney

Lindholm/ Shattenkirk
Fowler/ Manson
Dermott/ Larsson.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 11 Feb 2021 04:56:44
I like it but I don’t think Anaheim would retain on an already smaller contract, and I honestly don’t like Engvall. Like at all, but I understand he’s in there to balance cap. I say yes from both without Retention


2.) 11 Feb 2021 14:31:20
Why wouldn’t Anaheim retain? There is absolutely no reason for them not to they suck and have the cap space.


3.) 11 Feb 2021 19:24:35
I just don’t think they’d do anybody favours, it’s not like Rakell has negative value. And if they’re only getting one prospect in return good luck getting a retention


 

 

08 Feb 2021 15:44:35
Toronto Maple Leafs Trade:
- LD Mikko Kokkonen
- LW Jimmy Vesey
- 2021 2nd Round Draft Pick

Los Angeles Kings Trade:
- LW Adrian Kempe (50% Retained)

- Toronto gets a cheap, good third liner who could easily slide into the top6 and be a decent enough 2nd liner if need be. At 50% retention, Kempe is only at 1M for the next year and the year after, which is affordable.

- Los Angeles gets a d prospect from 2019 (3rd rounder) who played in the WJC and was a solid defensive presence - Niemela got way more praise but Kokkonen was very solid in his own end and in transition, despite not having the points to show for it. The 2nd is a nice get as well considering LA is still struggling this year and could use draft haul for 2021, and Vesey is a downgrade for the year but could probably be flipped for like a 5th.

Was considering making the 2nd a conditional 2nd, which upgrades to a 1st based on Toronto's playoff play, or swapping Kokonnen for Hirovnen or Niemela, but I thought for a constant 35-40 point guy giving up all that seemed a bit much. Idk.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 08 Feb 2021 18:20:28
Too much for Kempe imo


2.) 08 Feb 2021 18:21:57
Good post tho :)


3.) 09 Feb 2021 00:24:50
I do that in a heartbeat from a leafs POV.


 

 

06 Jan 2021 22:12:11
According to David Pagnotta of the Fourth Period, a reliable enough source, Carolina is interested in Laine. Winnipeg wants Necas+Pesce, to which Carolina has turned down, but a trade could still happen.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 07 Jan 2021 04:05:08
Yeah I don’t think they move Pesce. I could see Necas and Hamilton.


2.) 07 Jan 2021 14:04:41
Not a trade that the Jets would do.


3.) 07 Jan 2021 15:28:48
Well I mean Carolina turned it down so clearly they would haha.


4.) 07 Jan 2021 16:10:08
Yes, I think Necas and Pesce get Winnipeg talking. Carolina gets the best player, but Winnipeg fills a defensive need with a guy that has a great contract for 4 more years.

Hamilton wouldn't be considered at all unless he has agreed or will agree to a reasonable dollar, long term contract.


5.) 07 Jan 2021 17:30:09
If Carolina TURNED DOWN a proposal of Necas and pesce that means that it is a package that the peg would want because they are the ones who made the proposal. just my thought.


6.) 10 Jan 2021 05:47:59
Carolina throws in 2021 2nd and Winnipeg throws in Roslovic?


 

 

25 Aug 2020 16:20:35
Kapanen for #15 OA, Hallander and Evan Rodrigues.

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1.) 25 Aug 2020 19:18:52
Leafs did well IMO. Surprised Kapanen got a 1st that high plus other pieces. Rodrgues could be a good fit as well.


 

 

 

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30 Nov 2020 21:56:27
2014 Redraft anyone?

Mine, personally:

1. Drais
2. Pasta
3. Point
4. Ekblad
5. Larkin
6. Nylander
7. Ehlers
8. Arvidsson
9. Reinhart
10. Fiala

I'd say 6-8 could be rearranged however, they're all really similar in points/ gp and goals/ gp, just depends on preference. Fiala only makes it cause he looks like he's coming anew in Minnesota.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 01 Dec 2020 04:15:19
Very good list. Larkin is so underrated around the league man. I’d argue Sanheim > Fiala but all in all, solid list. The NHL Redraft on Draftsite is dog sh** lol


2.) 01 Dec 2020 04:17:15
Solid list, I’d argue that Sanheim > Fiala but all in all, good list. The redraft on Draftsite is usually dog sh** if you wanna look on Draftsite, they have McCann ahead of Fiala, Sanheim, Olofsson and DeAngelo lol


3.) 01 Dec 2020 04:18:39
Solid post, Sanheim > Fiala for me. Check out Draftsite their list is dog crap, McCann over Olofsson, DeAngelo, Sanheim lool


4.) 01 Dec 2020 05:15:14
Noooo, i thought my internet was being crappy so I kept having to recreate my comment and it added all 3 lmao


5.) 01 Dec 2020 05:24:44
I would take Larkin ahead of ekblad.


6.) 01 Dec 2020 05:29:29
I’d also say Reinhart > Arvidsson.


7.) 01 Dec 2020 06:03:42
I agree with you on that one Ebsolutley.
That turned out to be a pretty decent top 10.


8.) 03 Dec 2020 02:13:46
Now do the 2015 draft, might have to do top 30 though! Lol.


9.) 03 Dec 2020 02:22:14
Scratch that top 50 maybe. I know I’m not the first to say it lol but 2015 could easily be one of the deepest drafts ever.


10.) 03 Dec 2020 05:50:16
As a leafs fan I’d strongly look into a Nylander/ Rienhart swap.


11.) 04 Dec 2020 20:51:27
i feel like there is a huge dropoff in this list.

like stud stud stud ekblad stud and then off a cliff this list goes

and i'm a nylander fan.


12.) 05 Dec 2020 03:11:33
I’d say it’s a gradual decline then a drop off from Reinhart to Arvidsson.


13.) 05 Dec 2020 03:29:42
psta can easily have a better season than drais, point can easily have a better season than pasta

larkin is a stud defensively and eats HUGE minutes,

then off the cliff it goes.


14.) 05 Dec 2020 15:03:55
Ovie are you saying Eklblad doesn’t belong in that group? He’s a vanilla player but he is a franchise dman. He is just good at everything and plays the game right he’s rarely flashy but he rarely makes a mistake.


15.) 05 Dec 2020 15:37:24
Top 3 are franchise players, Larkin and Ekblad are really really good than Nylander, Reinhart and Ehlers are really good. I don’t even know what we’re arguing about but I think it’s a solid top 10. Lol.


16.) 12 Dec 2020 02:49:30
im not saying ekblad isn't a stud, but comparing a "vanilla" dman to all star forwards seems silly to me.


 

 

10 Aug 2019 01:24:36
Changing the NHL Top20 Centers List
(Using the mentioned players in nhl. coms list, so no Toews, Couturier, Kopitar, etc. )

1. Connor McDavid
2. Sidney Crosby
3. Nathan MacKinnon
4. Patrice Bergeron
5. Alex Barkov
6. Steven Stamkos
7. Auston Matthews
8. Evgeni Malkin
9. John Tavares
10. Ryan O’Rielly
11. Mark Schiefele
12. Jack Eichel
13. Brayden Point
14. Sebastian Aho
15. Tyler Seguin
16. Evgeny Kuznetsov
17. Nicklas Backstrom
18. Elias Petterson
19. Sean Monahan
20. Logan Couture.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 10 Aug 2019 05:31:05
Matthews - Lower
O Rielly -a little Lower


2.) 10 Aug 2019 05:31:22
Draisaitl got snubbed hard


3.) 10 Aug 2019 06:28:30
I will hope for their sake that they somehow stupidly counted him (Draisaitl) as a winger since he played quite a bit of wing last year, too.

Also, I think Tavares is the best C on TOR.
I also wouldn't know how Scheifele and Eichel are better than Point, but maybe that's just me.


4.) 10 Aug 2019 11:33:46
Tavares is not even close to Mathews have you watched the leafs lol.


5.) 10 Aug 2019 11:34:29
Also it’s probably because they’re intelligent like me and know Drais is a product of McDavid.


6.) 10 Aug 2019 11:41:09
Ever the train wreck of thought, vb once again batting a thousand 😂😂😂.


7.) 10 Aug 2019 14:57:54
Yeah, I def think Drias is counted as a winger in this scenario.


8.) 10 Aug 2019 19:52:30
@vb
I love how the craziest part of that sentence is that you're calling yourself intelligent and not that Draisaitl is a product of McDavid.

Also, for anybody else thinking Draisaitl is a product of McDavid, how come he's like PPG for Germany? He is like the sole reason they're good.


9.) 10 Aug 2019 20:03:52
@the_triplets

Yeah lol, Eichel is better than Point. Schief is on the same level.


10.) 10 Aug 2019 22:43:51
@the_triplets
maybe don't listen to me about Point because i had the coldest take of all time and said Dvorak will be better than Point.


11.) 10 Aug 2019 23:12:26
lol what does division 3 world hockey have to do with the NHL.


12.) 11 Aug 2019 00:49:01
@vb
The fact that as you said, it's ''division 3 world hockey'' and Draisaitl carried his entire country on his back and scored 19G 35A 54P in 53GP.
If you're saying he gets carried, who carried him on the Germany team?

AND he's has the all-time best PPG % on the German National team (! )
put that in your pipe and smoke it vb.


13.) 11 Aug 2019 07:23:46
Lol I remember you indeed saying that Dvorak thing. Aged well lol

Just saying, Eichels career high is 82 points which he got in his 4th season. Point got 92 in his third season. Yes, he's on a better team but he's also a big reason why TB is better than BUF.
So, I'd argue that offensively they are at least even.
As for defense, Point is clearly superior. Two Top 10 Selke finishes in the last couple years speak for itself I guess and that while being kinda overlooked in TB behind Stamkos, Kuch, Hedman, Vasy, etc. and TB players generally only getting recognition and therefore trophies if they are REALLY good.


14.) 11 Aug 2019 10:11:17
So the all time leader on team Mexico must be a star in the nhl to right?


15.) 11 Aug 2019 19:11:07
If he’s a point per game against the other top countries there’s a case to be made VB. Why do you have to over exaggerate everything? That’s why you don’t get taken seriously. I appreciate it’s always good for conversation you just don’t come out on top very often.


16.) 11 Aug 2019 22:19:28
I’m come out on top every time because everything I say comes true or is accurate and there is not a case of me ever being proven otherwise.


17.) 12 Aug 2019 07:42:52
This must be comedy by now.


18.) 12 Aug 2019 07:43:17
How did "Laine will score 80+ goals" turn out for you? Just to name one of a million indrecibly stupid and inaccurate things you said.


19.) 12 Aug 2019 11:41:51
Ive never said that to anyone on this site I've said that to idiots during trade negotiations on the fantasy league to bost his value.


 

 

20 Jun 2019 04:11:05
Anyone want to take a guess on the biggest riser for next season?

I’d easily put my money in the Rangers. If they buyout Staal/ Smith they’d have enoigh money to sign a toptier free agent. I think they’re going to be a major threat down the line.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 20 Jun 2019 13:48:54
Rangers will be a bottom 5 team imo. The Panthers, Devils, Sabres And Flyers will all be better and those are just 3 teams in the East that should make playoffs that didn’t last year. Rangers will be better then Ottawa and Detroit next year but that’s it in the east.

East-

For fallers I have: Islanders, Carolina and Columbus In the east

For risers I have Florida, Buffalo and Philadelphia with New Jersey just missing playoffs. IMO the last wildcard spot will be a battle between Buffalo and Montreal.

West-

For fallers I have Vegas

For risers I have Vancouver.


2.) 20 Jun 2019 14:35:41
At the risk of getting burned for like the 4th year in a row, I’d pick the Panthers (especially if they make some helpful splashes in free agency) .


3.) 20 Jun 2019 19:16:52
Sabres. I think they’re 2-3 solid pieces away from being an excellent team.


4.) 20 Jun 2019 23:57:13
VB Rangers have added Trouba Fox Anderson Kakko and Kravtsov over last year already and are rumoured to be taking a run at guys like Panarin in free agency. Far from a guarantee but they look poised to take a big step forward this year or next.


5.) 21 Jun 2019 00:28:14
I agree with NYR. Even if they don't sign Panarin or another good FA.
They're doing the rebuilding thing right and I think it'll start to pay off for them this season. Kakko doesn't hurt either.


6.) 21 Jun 2019 03:45:50
Yah I mean they’re definitely better but New Jersey is also getting better especially considering the Hart trophy winner in 2018 only played 37 games. Florida is a team that should be a cup contender with Tampa, Boston, leafs etc when they get Bob and Paniran same with Philadelphia imo. Buffalo has just been gradually improving and Next year I think Dahlin will really breakout showing he’s a top 5 dman in the game. ( maybe it’s my bias because I have him on my fantasy team but I think he’ll score about 70 points.


7.) 21 Jun 2019 07:00:59
If FLA gets Bob and Panarin, they def make the playoffs. Their D is still iffy, tho. I like PHI as well, but no way they're a cup contender (yet), imo. They have goalie trouble, too.
And to answer your question: Yes, it is your bias.


8.) 22 Jun 2019 02:33:23
Well Yup shares the same opinion so I’m to sure. Carter Hart is also a stud he’ll be the best goalie In the game. He’s Canada’s future in net. I’d Trade Freddy Andersson for him.


 

 

18 Jun 2019 01:03:29
Ohhhh, i'm going to savor this one boys.

#20 and Neal Pionk, a 4-5D on NEW YORK goes to WPG for Jacob Trouba.

HAHAH wheres Ekblad, Reinhart, Provorov, Nolan Patrick, Veleno, Hronek and the rest of the gang? Hell even Kadri wouldve been a better get 🤣🤣.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 18 Jun 2019 02:50:43
Can’t wait to hear how the winnipeg homers spin this

Mental gymnastics incoming!


2.) 18 Jun 2019 04:10:43
You’ll soon find out from the jets boys that Pionk is next Bobby Orr.


3.) 18 Jun 2019 08:59:06
Poink for Patrick and Ghostsphere.

Memarcus Joe- that’s a good base maybe Philly adds a second.


 

 

06 Jun 2019 01:52:25
2013 Top15 Redraft? It's been 6 Years, so it seems like a good enough time to do one:

1. Nathan MacKinnon
2. Alex Barkov
3. Seth Jones
4. Sean Monahan
5. Bo Horvat
6. Max Domi
7. Elias Lindholm
8. Jake Guentzel
9. Shea Theodore
10. Jonathan Drouin
11. Darnell Nurse
12. Brett Pesce
13. Rasmus Ristolainen
14. Anthony Mantha
15. Josh Morrissey

HM: Pulock, Butcher, Burakovsky.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 06 Jun 2019 07:43:17
Personally, I'd hands down take Guentzel and probably also Lindholm over Domi. Nurse and Mantha, too, possibly.


2.) 06 Jun 2019 20:31:21
1.Mackinnon
2.Jones
3.Barkov
4.Monahan
5. Guzentzel
6. Horvat
7. Domi
8. Lindbholm
9. Ristolainen
10. Pesce
11.Theodore
12. Morissey
13. Drouin
14.Mantha
15.Nurse.


 

 

 

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03 Mar 2021 02:44:50
Yeah @Datsyuk that's what I was aiming for

It is kinda rare, but I could def see it happening with lots of teams stuffed to the cap this year, so a lot of the bottom feeders like ANA/ DET/ OTT/ SJ/ NJ/ BUF should be more willing to retain (on UFA deals like Granlund, not on term deals) for the incentive of like a 3rd, 4th or something of the sort.

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02 Mar 2021 20:43:51
I'd say instead of Vesey to Vegas, something similar to the Robin Lehner deal could, where Lehner was 50% retained by Chicago, went through Toronto, where Toronto retained 50%, and then he went off to Vegas; out of the exchange, Toronto gave up Martins Dzierkals whos never going to leave the KHL and got back a 5th for retaining like 1.25M on the 2.5M (since Chicago retained 50% which was 2.5 M of the 5M)

I doubt Vegas has the cap space, but another team like maybe New Jersey or so would do the retaining, so:

Granlund and an AHLer go to Toronto with Nashville not retaining for the 1st, Vesey and a 4th,
the 1st and Vesey go to Nashville for Granlund without retention and,
a 4th goes to New Jersey in exchange for an AHLer and New Jersey retaining 50% on Granlund.

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02 Mar 2021 20:15:56
This is never going to happen, but if I had to say, it looks like it's probably a bit much from Toronto.

From the above Chabot/ Dahlin, Chabot is about the same as Dahlin, meaning that Rielly with an extension is less valuable than Dahlin, since the difference between Chabot and Rielly is really only age, both are superb offensive dmen on their respective teams. The 4 year difference likely is a difference of one of Sandin or Robertson, the 1st is probably too little.

With Olofsson and Nylander, the argument can be made for either player. 'oh Nylander is soft and overpaid' isn't an argument considering Nylander has 19 points in 23 points and is locked in for the next four years at 6.5 appx. which is honestly a solid contract for a guy of his production. Both were picked in 2014, so there's no age difference, and Olofsson may end up better than Nylander, but only time will tell. As of right now, Nylander has the better resume, so it's only fair to say that at least, Nylander=Olofsson.

So, I'd say adding Robertson AND Sandin is probably too much. One of them, Rielly and Nylander and even a 1st, since I'd say Dahlin>Chabot, so Dahlin>>Rielly, is probably the right package.

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02 Mar 2021 20:09:36
If Eichel gets traded its for quality. The argument is to be made for DahlinChabot, but even at the basis that Chabot=Dahlin, which is most reasonable, Eichel isn't getting traded for quantity.

Eichel+Okposo gets one of Stutzle/ Tkachuk + Zaitsev/ White + Norris/ Batherson + some pick, which is a trade neither team should be really willing to do.

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02 Mar 2021 17:01:03
Detroit shouldn't and wouldn't trade Larkin. If they do, which again, they shouldn't, it shouldn't be for more futures.

That's an okay package from Toronto, but an okay package isn't getting Larkin for sure, espec. at 50% retention.

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