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17 Jul 2019 17:07:53
IF each team could negotiate contracts with the RFAs what about this scenery change trade?

Toronto: Marner
Winnipeg: Laine.

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17 Jul 2019 17:28:13
Marner doesn't need a scenery change

No from da Leafs.

17 Jul 2019 18:00:51
No from Winnipeg, one bad season for Laine does not mean Marner is better.

17 Jul 2019 18:11:42
Jets would have to add for this one.

17 Jul 2019 18:17:31
The Jets would do it, the Leafs wouldn't.

17 Jul 2019 18:24:47
Well considering Marner had 94 points and is very good defensively compared to 50 points from Liane I’d say the leafs get absolutely bent over.

I love Laine tho I think he can be a 50+ goal guy but Marner has more value and if you don’t agree you’re insane.

17 Jul 2019 20:48:41
Marner is better in so many ways.

17 Jul 2019 22:13:18
I don't think either teams do this the leafs have goal scorers and not as many skilled pass first guys as win has great 2way players in schieffle and wheeler.

18 Jul 2019 02:06:07
So Kotkaniemi is better than Marner and Laine now Mantha? I’m sure he’s going to be good but one 34 point season doesn’t make you better than 2 proven players. Do you see how dumb that sounds?

19 Jul 2019 01:39:54
Think the trade is a Good one. Winnipeg has cap space for Marners demands, Laine may sign a Bridger for the small amount the leafs have of space.

17 Jul 2019 16:13:25
MTL:Alzner

Vancouver:Erikson(50% retain)

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17 Jul 2019 18:43:19
Why does Vancouver have to retain so much when they are taking on Alzner’s dump truck contract. At least Eriksson is playing NHL.

17 Jul 2019 21:47:45
Exactly. Canucks wouldn’t retain anything.

17 Jul 2019 15:01:51
Toronto Maple Leafs: Mitch Marner, Timothy Lilijgren, 2nd 2020 And 2nd 2021

New York Islanders: Oliver Wahlstrom, Noah Dobson, Adam Peeltch And 1st 2020

Leafs- get 2 solid RHD that can jump in the lineup and Oliver Wahlstrom is a high potential prospect will never be a replacement for Marner but Is a gifted scorer. The 1st Brings in a solid prospect

Islanders- Mitch Marner instantly transforms there roster Lee-Barzel-Marner would become one of the most dangerous lines in the game could see Marner reaching 120 points there. Lilijgren adds RHD depth to their system and 2 2nds helps rebuild their prospect pool after trading 2 solid pieces.

Leafs lines-

Johnsson-Mathews-Kappanen
Hyman-Tavares-Nylander
Moore-Kerfoot-Bracco
Gauthier-Spezza-Mikelev

Rielly-Peltch
Muzzin-Barrie
Ceci/Dermotte-Dobson

Andersson

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17 Jul 2019 17:02:07
HUGE overpayment from toronto.

17 Jul 2019 18:25:28
LOL but you think Marner for Laine is fair?

17 Jul 2019 18:44:22
Islanders can’t afford to do this.

17 Jul 2019 19:40:56
Yes they can afford this gives them over 10 million in cap space with the potential to trade leddy for even more.

18 Jul 2019 02:38:01
@vb

Yes, they would have to lose more salary somehow, you are correct. NYI @ 8.6 + 1.6 (Peltch) = 10.2. Very close to what Marner will get. They can be 10% over in offseason, so they can sign him. After that, Leddy is goner I guess.

18 Jul 2019 12:35:01
They’re looking to move leddy anyway.

17 Jul 2019 14:05:01
N.Y. Rangers:

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins C
Jesse Puljujarvi LW
Milan Lucic LW (50% retained)
2nd 2020
2nd 2021

Edmonton Oilers:

Pavel Buchnevich LW
Vladislav Namestnikov C
Kevin Shattenkirk D
Marc Staal D

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17 Jul 2019 17:06:16
i'd do it.

Buchnevich could be a good winger for McDavid, Namestnikov could be a good 3rd line center or 2nd line wing. Shattenkirk would be a top 4 option. they also get rid of lucic

NYR get a good top 6 center in nuge, bottom 6 winger in lucic and solid prospect in Puljajarvi and 2 picks. also get rid of staal's contract.

17 Jul 2019 18:09:04
Any team trading for Lucic needs to bear in mind that he has a full NMC. So he automatically counts against protected players in expansion draft. Do you really want to take the risk of being stuck with Lucic at the cost of having to expose a younger, better player?

17 Jul 2019 18:26:38
It’s really not bad imo maybe retain salary on shattenkurk.

17 Jul 2019 19:09:46
I don't think this works out for NYR. They have a cap crunch already so taking back Lucic would be an issue.

17 Jul 2019 19:36:51
I’m optimistic he’d waive his clause. No team is willingly taking that contract and if they do he’d be closer to home in Vancouver. And thunder Turkey, NY saves cap in this trade.
I think this would be a lot closer if they didn’t retain on Lucic. Otherwise not worth it to lose Nuge and take on cap.

18 Jul 2019 08:00:53
Oilers won't trade nuge, he is a fan favorite + oilers won't retain 50% if they take on shattenkirk

Would rather retain 50% of he's salary, add a 2nd round and trade him for a 7th round.

19 Jul 2019 01:51:14
You can't be serious. Think you forgot to add Kakko to make that trade close to realistic.

17 Jul 2019 11:11:29
Edmonton: Puljujarvi

Dallas: Faksa,3rd2019

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17 Jul 2019 18:09:31
Why would dallas do this? Doesn’t make a lot of sense for them.

16 Jul 2019 19:07:25
canes trade pesce
jets trade perrault, 2020 1st and 2020 3rd

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16 Jul 2019 19:28:10
If Pesce was available i think a lot of teams would top that offer. He looked really great in the playoffs.

16 Jul 2019 21:40:32
Jets would have to add for sure. Take out Perrault and add something of greater value.

17 Jul 2019 03:53:36
There would definitely need to be more coming from the Jets.

17 Jul 2019 04:34:28
I don’t know. Considering what top end RHD have been trading for lately, this might actually get the job don.

16 Jul 2019 18:05:26
Nashville trades Kyle Turris and a 2nd in 2021.

Buffalo trades Rasmus Ristolainen


Risto can eat some if subbans old minutes, and he will get much better defensively in Nashville. Turris can play 2nd C and let Reinhart play with skinner and Eichel.

The 2nd is because turris has 5 years left, and possible decline sooner than later.

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17 Jul 2019 01:47:37
As much as I think Nashville would like to get rid of Turris contract I think they feel that fabbro is nhl ready and capable of eating top 4 minutes so I say Nashville says no, they’re in more need of scoring than more defence.

17 Jul 2019 04:40:52
Turris is a huge gamble for any team right now. I don’t think he brings back a top 4 RHD. He might get a new mouth guard or something. He is $6M overpaid. Maybe Turris for Lucic?

17 Jul 2019 14:05:33
Maybe Turris for Lucic+ Draisalt.

17 Jul 2019 15:00:41
Yeah and Ristolainen adds more scoring. This is an obvious no from Buffalo.

16 Jul 2019 17:23:49
Buffalo Trades
SReinhart
Sheary
Ristolainen
1st Round Pick 2020

Toronto Trades
Marner
Hyman
Borgman (AHL)
3rd Round Pick 2020 (Ottawa's Pick)

Still think there is a match here for many reasons, I have revised my original Proposal some and value wise it's very fair, Leafs still need another Defenceman and this Proposal keeps Tavares going with NHL Wingers, improves the Defense and keeps them under the Cap.
Sabres are getting Marner plus a good Contract with Hyman.

Thoughts ?

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16 Jul 2019 18:34:23
Take out Sheary and Hyman. Toronto will not move Hyman under any circumstances. For a team that lacks drive and motivation throughout the year, Hyman is the only player that plays 150% every game even if he doesn't put up big numbers. You need players like Hyman to win the cup.

16 Jul 2019 19:47:09
Replace Risto with a good player like Middelstad.

17 Jul 2019 00:03:20
@Stammer2Leafs2016

I would rather keep Hyman as well but I looked at what Buffalo would want, Sheary is on an expiring contract where Hyman is signed for 3 more seasons including the 19/ 20.


@vbbbvvbb

Buffalo won't be trading any Centres they need another Centre, Sabres are deep at RHanded Shooting Defencemen and Ristolainen is a lot better than most people think, at 24yrs old and Babcock as his coach he would be better in Toronto.

17 Jul 2019 04:45:24
Marner would instantly transform Buffalo into contenders. Having him setting up Eichel or Skinner. Those guys would get 50 goals.

It’s a lot of moving parts. Having Reinhart included is key. We need a quality player in return. This would be the perfect chance for Buffalo to dump Risto as well.

Not sure Leafs want to make trade with a division rival though. Especiallly when it’s a player like Marner, who could completely turn Buffalo around.

17 Jul 2019 13:49:17
What would the Buyout for Risto look like for the leafs they really don’t need an offensive deffensman for the 3rd pairing.

17 Jul 2019 18:38:57
For 3rd pairing vb? You would put Ceci ahead of Risto?

17 Jul 2019 19:43:04
Well Rielly, Barrie And Risto certainly couldn’t play with each other so yeah.

18 Jul 2019 02:43:46
Somebody actually has to play defense I guess eh?

You don’t think Dermott and Risto would make a good pair? Barrie, Ceci, Muzzin all UFA. Risto is the keeper if this trade happens.

16 Jul 2019 17:26:06
Oilers: Russel , puljujärvi

Rangers: howden , shattenkirk (rangers retain 1,5m)


Rangers save 1m i cap for trouba and get a young player for their rebuild

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16 Jul 2019 23:40:48
They don’t get a young player though, they come out net zero in terms of young players and give up the one that’s shown the most.

17 Jul 2019 15:50:10
Anyone care to share why they disagree with my comment? I’m actually just curious. Howden and Pul are the same age from the same draft class so they don’t add a young player, they replace one. Howden went straight from junior to NHL and stuck with the team all year putting up more points than Pul did in his best NHL season. Howden is a two way center who can chip in the bottom 6 while Pul has a higher ceiling but won’t be able to handle that bottom 6 role if he can’t get his scoring up to speed. I said nothing about trade value or who would say no, just that Rangers don’t add a young player in this deal and there’s an argument to be made that Pul isn’t an upgrade over Howden depending on what you’re looking for.

17 Jul 2019 21:41:00
I agree.

17 Jul 2019 22:42:46
Rangers got 3 decent centers already in zibanejad, chytil and strome and howden will 4th line

If they add pulju they get younger as group To build around, Top 3 RW on the team will all be under 21.

16 Jul 2019 10:41:40
Toronto: Nylander,Sandin

Ana:Rakell

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16 Jul 2019 11:39:52
Let's flip a different Trade that's similar to yours @DetroitMantha.

Detroit Trades
Mantha
Hronek

Toronto Trades
Hyman

Tell me is that a fair Trade?

16 Jul 2019 13:54:55
Terrible for Toronto.

16 Jul 2019 14:13:48
The trades bad Pinball but Rakel>>Hyman.

16 Jul 2019 15:02:16
Nylander still worth what a good young 2nd line forward can get. B+ Prospect and a first.

16 Jul 2019 18:35:22
Lindholm and Rakell for Kapanen.

16 Jul 2019 19:49:39
Wouldn’t trade Sandin straight up for Rakel ( he’s the highest regarded prospect in their organization)

17 Jul 2019 04:47:26
Rackell has a fantastic contract. He’s a great player. I’m not so sure the difference between Rackell and Nylander is Liljegren. I wouldn’t think so anyway.

 


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