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22 Jul 2021 12:55:28
TJ Brodie D

2nd 2021
2nd 2023

J. Tavares C
T. Dermott D

M. Dumba D
M. Boldy LW
M. Foligno LW
F. Lindberg G
M. Rossi C

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22 Jul 2021 14:24:26
An Eichel type package for Tavares.

22 Jul 2021 15:58:12
Tavares isn't worth his contract anymore, far less a massive trade haul.

22 Jul 2021 16:32:05
Tavares won't waive his no trade.

23 Jul 2021 00:56:47
Wouldn’t say he isn’t worth that contract. I’d guarantee another team would offer him more then 11 million if he were a UFA.

22 Jul 2021 12:47:33
Zach Hyman is going to get traded to Edmonton today. Mark my words.

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22 Jul 2021 16:00:03
The rumor is 8x5.5, 5.5 will be ok for a few years but the back end of that contract is going to be an albatross.

Holland is making Chiarelli look better and better every day.

22 Jul 2021 11:59:26
Toronto sends hyman signed to 8 year deal and Morgan rielly to Oilers for kassian and a first. Then toronto signs hamilton.

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22 Jul 2021 12:40:00
I like Kassian on Leafs.

22 Jul 2021 12:42:45
Oilers don't need another LD

So how about Hyman (signed 8 yrs), Holl and a 2nd to Oilers for Kassian, the 1st and Lagesson to Leafs.

22 Jul 2021 14:48:31
The leafs decided to protect Holl over Kerfoot and McCann in the expansion draft so I doubt they will move him any time soon.

22 Jul 2021 14:48:46
The leafs decided to protect Holl over Kerfoot and McCann in the expansion draft so I doubt they will move him any time soon.

22 Jul 2021 16:33:30
Rielly replaces larson.

22 Jul 2021 11:00:50
Edmonton Trades

Toronto Trades

Hearing there is a sign and trade side deal before Hyman becomes a UFA so Edmonton can get an extra year in his contract, so why not expand it more if both clubs are looking to change the core.

Edmonton will yes be losing the best player on the planet but adding 3 top players like that overall helps them.

Toronto wasn't signing Hyman anyways and trading Rielly opens up space to sign DHamilton, yes they lose those 3 players but if DHamilton is signed and McDavid is a Leaf I think they are better in the end.

Thoughts ?

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22 Jul 2021 12:48:10
I’d rather keep the 3 pieces from Toronto honestly.

22 Jul 2021 13:43:04
Leafs would have to add. alot.

21 Jul 2021 16:03:27
Habs: Shea Theodore

VGK: Romanov and Drouin.

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21 Jul 2021 17:19:44
Not even close lmao your trades are brutal. No from VGK.

21 Jul 2021 19:24:08
Vegas keeps their guy.

Romanov has potential but why on earth would Vegas even think about trading a good defenseman for a winger who gets paid the same amount and produces less points?

20 Jul 2021 22:31:27
I'd love for Ottawa to make a side deal with Seattle to acquire Jake Bean. The expansion draft is heavy on strong defensemen.
I'm honestly not sure his value but I'd assume it to be a 20-30 range pick.
Ottawa: Bean
Seattle: 2021 2nd (pick Ridley Grieg (last years 30th OA).

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21 Jul 2021 14:04:27
Probably going to be just a little more than that.

22 Jul 2021 02:42:32
It's funny how Ottawa fans keep trying to get rid of Grieg while insisting he's a top prospect who's worth a lot. But nobody wants him. Not even Seattle who could have taken him for nothing in the expansion draft.

22 Jul 2021 11:58:10
Pretty sure he’s like 18 and just drafted so I think he was exempt.

22 Jul 2021 14:28:41
It’s same way that Calgary fans try to ship Zary for anything. Griegs a good prospect but Ottawa is in a playoffs or bust year and he doesn’t fit that timeline.

22 Jul 2021 18:07:56
My bad the age exemption slipped my mind.

But you're wrong Calgary fans aren't trying to ship Zary for anything.

Sure I proposed Zary + the 12 OA pick for Sam Reinhart but Reinhart isn't just "anything", he's a 25 year old proven player who fits a very specific need in the top 6 for Calgary.

Reinhart is a right shot RW and better yet he can play center too which opens up a ton of options for mixing up the Flames' top 2 lines.

22 Jul 2021 20:42:52
It's like Toronto fans including Kerfoot and Engvall in almost any package and claiming how good of a player Kerfoot is.
Even funnier is Seattle ends up selecting a player that the Leafs just spent a prospect and pick on and didn't want Kerfoot.

20 Jul 2021 19:57:44
Habs Trade Price 3.5m retain
Seatle send lauzon-kukhonen and pick Byron

Habs- 2 Nd pick and 3rd pick 2021

Tampa- gourde-joseph

Habs- Drouin - Primeau- 2nd pick 2022

Buff- ristolanen

Habs sign Hoffman 2year 9m
Perry 1year 1.5m
Armia 3year 10m




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20 Jul 2021 22:19:33
So Seattle gives up 2 players for a guy they can have for free?

21 Jul 2021 15:59:41
I like the additions of Gourde and Hoffman. Instead of adding Hoffman though, I'd shoot for Landeskog instead. He is younger, a better leader, more solid 2 way player, and can average 60-70 points a season. Hoffman is too one dimensional like Cammalleri was.

22 Jul 2021 00:34:47
Landeskog isn't going anywhere unless someone offers 9 mil a year.

22 Jul 2021 03:00:46
And not just for 2 years either, he wants term too. He'll wind up settling for a lot less than 9 mil and probably stay in Colorado.

22 Jul 2021 03:30:48
The retain, major.

20 Jul 2021 17:32:20
I'm seeing a lot of ridiculous Eichel trade proposals out there one specifically that caught my attention and that one is...

Buf : Eichel

Nyr : Lafreniere, Kakko, a 2021 1st, and more

Based on that nerfing of Lafreniere and Kakkos value I figured I'd post a new Lafreniere to Ottawa trade

Nyr : Lafreniere, Strome

Ott : C.Brown, Thompson, 2021 1st (10th overall), 2021 3rd, Abramov, Jarventie, White, J.Brown

Stroke and White carry identical value as far as i'm concerned, stroke is simple inflated a bit thanks to 3 years with Panarin to boost his value so White, J.Brown, and the 3rd should be enough for Strome. The rest is to cover Lafreniere value. Still quite a bit though based on Lafrenieres performance or lack there of in his rookie season, combined with the lack of total value Lafreniere apparently carries in a Jack Eichel offer.

Lafreniere Stutzle Batherson
Tkachuk Norris Dadonov
Formenton Pinto Grieg

Lafreniere gets to go home to where he should have been all along, in Ottawa.

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20 Jul 2021 19:20:04
Leafs top that offer.

Ilya Mikheyev, Koppeki, 2022 1st, 2021 2nd, John Creamer, Kale McCarthy, Craig Coffin, Redmond Savage, Caleb Carr, Connor Cramm and John Walsh


Jack Eichel.

20 Jul 2021 19:43:04
Geez you can’t just pile everything in one trade. There’s contract limits lol.
If we wanted Laf, which I’m not sure we even do, it would likely take:
Laf for Sanderson, Batherson, 2021 1st and one of Thomson, Grieg or a future 1st.

20 Jul 2021 20:03:45
Strome >> White

Can't see the Rangers giving up on Lafreniere yet. The 10th OA probably gets you Strome, Connor Brown and the 3rd might too but the rest of that Ottawa package isn't worth much.

21 Jul 2021 14:05:44
Calgary counters Lucic, Backlund, Treliving, Huska, Sigalet for Eichel.

21 Jul 2021 14:37:20
Ah yes, you counter the Rangers package with quantity jnstead of quality. Lafreniere + Kakko would just be Stutzle + Sanderson or so. Lol.

21 Jul 2021 16:25:38
You all are high on something and your responses further prove how biased you are against ottawa.

As good as Jack Eichel is, the actual asking price of Lafreniere plus Kakko plus the Rangers 1st this year and more.

And you still think based on that trade value that Lafreniere can net a return of Sanderson, Batherson, 2021 1st and one of Thomson, Grieg or a future 1st? And that is coming from a so called sens fan?

Lmfao your basically saying that everything the the sens got now will only ever amount to a 4th liner or 3rd pair guy at best and ain't worth more than a 4th, Stutzle, Tkachuk, and Chabot included. And that simply ain't even close to the truth and you know it.

Ottawa developes well, just look around the league for proof. Zibanejad, Stone, EK, Hoffman, Silverberg, etc. That means they do carry a lot more value than any of you give them credit for.

I'm saying that based on the actual Eichel trade asking price for new york, from Buffalo, ottawa could easily get Lafreniere for this price, and I would be right despite the insane beliefs I'm reading here.

So you are all going to have to come off your high horse somewhere here. Either I'm right and this is a great and dare I say overpayment for Lafreniere, or Buffalo is NUTS and are asking FAR too much for Eichel and likely won't even get half that asking price for him, especiallyin his current situation? Which is it guys?

Unless their name is Connor McDavid, Wayne Gretzky, Sydney Crosby, Alex Ovechkin, Gordie Howe, etc and they are under 25 years old, NO 1 player is worth a Top 10 pick, a guy just drafted 1st overall, a guy just drafted 2nd overall 2 years ago, and more. Especially a guy who is NOT a point a game player, or has ever played in an NHL playoff game, needs major surgery, has a known attitude in the locker room, is coming off one of the worst seasons yet, and could be injury proned lol. Yet some how he's worth all that and 1 of those pieces is somehow worth 90% of ottawa combined and the 10th overall?

Get freaking real. You guys are on some amazing drugs that's for sure!

21 Jul 2021 16:29:09
As for monix, strome = White sorry to tell you. Nothing outside boosted stats thanks to Panarin suggest otherwise. And that's being kind as without Panarin Strome was proven to be much worst than White. Just ask an Edmonton fan or Islanders fan.

No way in hell he's worth anywhere close to the 10th overall so don't joke like that again lol

21 Jul 2021 18:21:16
Oiler fans liked Strome and in New York he had a 50 point season. Lol not everyone is out to hate on Ottawa, you just seem to think 15 players can equal up to the value of 1 and that’s just not how it works.

21 Jul 2021 23:11:44
The actual offer is Lafreniere, Kakko and a pick.

Lafreniere was picked 1st. Stutzle was picked 3rd.

Theres your comparable.

Kakko was picked 2nd. Sanderson was picked 5th.

Theres your comparable.

Those are comparables. Not throwing a bunch of quantity and saying hey look its equal to Lafreniere. Lmfao.

23 Jul 2021 18:35:46
The actual offer was Lafreniere, Kakko, New Yorks 1st in 2021, plus 3 more pieces. I know that for a fact as I was just reading about them from legit sources, as well as watching a YouTube video talking about those articles. Good try though TopShelf.

And sure those are comparables based on selection point alone, but adding career trajectory so far not so much. Either way, Brown has been on level footing or better than Lafreniere to start their career so far so arguably that's equal value as is White with Kakko for that matter, and Ottawa and New York both have top 10 picks.

So based on draft selection point sure, Kakko, Lafreniere, and Rangers 1st = Ottawa 1st, Stutzle, and Sanderson However based on rookie season plus the career trajectory so far the Rangers 3 are nowhere close to those Ottawa 3. But the package I originally posted for Lafreniere is equal to that entire package, Lafreniere included, for Eichel.

Therefore in conclusion I believe we can call this Lafreniere package an overpayment.

As for a bunch of quantity over quality garbage, if you're Joe sackic are you going to offer up an 18 year old Rantanen, a 19 year old MacKinnon, a top ten pick, and 3 more pieces to get a 23 year old Stamkos?

Highly doubtful. So why is that even a discussion to begin with when it comes to Eichel? And yeah, that's the best comparable no matter how you look at it.

In Ottawa case it's like trading a near guaranteed future Matthews and a near guaranteed future Pietrangelo plus 10th overall and more if they did the crap you're suggesting.

That is just simply NOT how trading a superstar like Eichel works. 95% of the time your getting a package of solid prospects and picks NONE of which has very high odds to be the same calibre of the superstar let alone 3 pieces that could potentially be BETTER. Especially an injury proned star who's never once played a playoff game and needs major surgery before his no trade clause kicks in lmfao


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