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21 Sep 2022 12:51:41
To Blues-Valimaki

To Flames-Kostin

Both are former 1st round picks, struggling to get icetime with current teams.
Flames get another big forward and Blues get a defenseman to fill in for Scandella, who is out for at least 6 months

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22 Sep 2022 03:22:07
Right on RENIDRAG, finally someone proposing a fair exchange that work for both teams👍.

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21 Sep 2022 09:20:39
What would it take for the Flames to get Anderson.

Is this close ?

Oliver klyngton
2024 second round

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21 Sep 2022 10:00:33
Not close to Anderson’s market value.

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20 Sep 2022 18:37:20
Toronto Trades
Muzzin
Woll (AHL)
3rd Round Pick 2023

Anaheim Trades
Future Considerations

Ducks have the cap space, and really giving up nothing for 3 assets is a win win situation for Anaheim.

This will solve the cap problem for The Leafs, yes its a sacrifice and Muzzin would have to agree being traded as he has a NTC, but it will open the door to signing Sandin or packaging him with Kerfoot for something else.


Thoughts ?

Believable92 Unbelievable107

21 Sep 2022 10:03:35
Wow, so many votes in so short a time…. astonishing turnaround Pinball! Isisally it takes you a few days to accumulate that many down-votes, so this is truly UNBELIEVABLE 😁.

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18 Sep 2022 04:39:40
J.Holl & late pick for J.Edmundson (saves Habs $1.5 & they get a pick, Habs could also flip Holl for another pick at the deadline, leafs simply improve)

N.Robertson & T.Lilejgren for R.Hintz (saves stars $1.5 to afford J.Robertson & unite the brothers & also add a slick cheap D-man, all for a guy with 1 year left they can't afford to keep anyway. Leafs replace Nylander cheaper & add size, see below)

W.Nylander & R.Sandin for M.Jones & J.Drysdale (leafs save $5 mil & secure a D-stud. Ducks get a affordable young star under contract and a economical good D-man with offensive upside)


Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Jankrok-Tavares-Hintz
Engvall-Kerfoot-Jones
Clifford-Kampf-Simmonds*Aube-Kubel

Rielly-Muzzin
Edmondson-Drysdale
Brodie-Giordano*Benn

Samsonov-Murray

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18 Sep 2022 21:55:54
Dallas declines but Holl + a better pick might make sense.

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19 Sep 2022 21:34:01
OMG the Habs and Stars hang up the phone laughing at these desperate asks. (I can’t call them offers. )

The Habs are counting on Edmundson to lead a very young D corps through what is sure to be another lottery finish. They’re getting lots of calls for the big guy on the fantastic contract, and Holl gets your number blocked. If he moves it will be for a generous offer, and this ain’t it.

Hintz really proved himself in the playoffs for Dallas, so to throw undersized “prospect” Robertson and Lilly at the Stars is ridiculous to hockey fans with even a passing interest in actual player values.

I didn’t read beyond the Dallas offer. There just wasn’t any point. Leaf fans rarely pitch credible offers, and usually see the rest of the league as a dumping ground for their bad contracts and never-will-be’s. You don’t get respect with posts like this.

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20 Sep 2022 10:59:15
I think the habs consider moving Edmonston for a 2nd Holl is just in there because the leafs would need to clear space.

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20 Sep 2022 17:50:49
VB - Holl is nothing, and the Habs would do better than a 2nd and Holl if they wanted to trade him, absolutely no question.

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22 Sep 2022 19:09:25
I don’t think Habs could do better then a 2nd for Edmonston imo.

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25 Sep 2022 00:17:05
VBBBBB…. Edmundson isn’t on the market, but is getting a lot of calls. That will increase by the deadline, especially at 3.5M/ year for this year and next. IF he were to move he won’t move for less than a 1st plus…just like Chiarot.

The Habs would be foolish to trade him, so if they do, it will be for a heck of a lot more than a 2nd🙄.

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16 Sep 2022 11:32:43
N.Y. Islanders:
Justin Holl D
Pierre Engvall LW
Rodion Amirov LW

Toronto:
Kieffer Bellows LW
Oliver Wahlstrom RW

Arizona:
Wayne Simmonds RW
Filip Kral D

Toronto:
5th 2024

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16 Sep 2022 16:34:12
First trade make zero sense for the islanders, give yup two young players for a 6/ 7 d man, a 4th liner and a prospect you has medical issues and the second not sure what to make out of it other then why would Arizona want this trade?

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16 Sep 2022 17:35:58
NYI would turn this down.

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16 Sep 2022 17:44:47
I don't think NYI takes this.

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19 Sep 2022 21:36:23
For a handle like “Les Habitants”, you sure pitch a lot of leaf-friendly fantasy-land offers.

Easy no for NYI and ARI.

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14 Sep 2022 13:35:27
Sharks Trade
Meier
4th Round Pick 2023

Leafs Trade
Kerfoot
Sandin
Knies (Big-10)
1st Round Pick 2024

For Toronto this is throw everything in to get that Top 6 Winger to Complete The Top 6.

San Jose in a rebuild would look at this proposal as adding 2 Young Good Prospects in Sandin already an NHL Defenceman with Top 4 potential, Knies The Leafs Top Prospect, plus a 1st Rounder, Kerfoot fills this year maybe more on an expiring contract.

Minnesota traded Fiala for a less package and both Fiala and Meier are very comparable.

Toronto will have to figure out the Muzzin situation to fit Meier's contract to get under the cap to make it work.


Thoughts ?

Believable19 Unbelievable45

14 Sep 2022 16:22:31
Get real. Another Leaf trade involving the great and easily replaceable Kerfoot, unsigned duo Sandin and Knives. The only players missing is a shaky Holl, tiny Robertson and old, expensive, injury prone Muzzin. No team wants to trade a good player for any of these players. Make a realistic trade that would help the other team Pinballisback if not have the Leafs keep these great players.

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14 Sep 2022 18:29:02
The same Leaf players being mentioned as trading pieces for good players.

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14 Sep 2022 19:34:14
? The leafs were the 2nd highest scoring team, most leaf fans I know are frightened by their goaltending, and you’re proposing a trade for more goal scoring?

Your view of building a winning hockey team is uniquely your own.

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14 Sep 2022 22:03:11
islandjet
So no Team wants Sandin and Knies because they are unsigned?
They both will sign whatever NHL Team owns there rights.
Oh by the way Meier is a RFA just like Sandin after this upcoming season.
Just admit you're a Leaf hater because the devaluing of Kerfoot, Sandin and Knies shows that, let me guess no Team wants a 1st Round Pick either?
Again Fiala and Meier are very comparable and what did Minnesota get from The Kings in that Trade?
My proposal offers much more than Minny got.

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15 Sep 2022 13:18:48
Pinball, you give yourself away as being disingenuous with your offer when you compare it to Fiala's deal.

You and we know, that the Fiala deal was a product of cap mismanagement by Minnesota and cannot be used as a fair value offer for any player that is not in the exact same situation.

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15 Sep 2022 14:58:58
memarcus i wish i could agree with your comment a million times! my exact thoughts whenever pinball compares fiala to anyone lol.

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15 Sep 2022 21:07:31
Verbal, it's always funny that people take well known bad trades as being the market setter because it suits their agenda and completely ignore trades where players return more than they should.

The actual circumstances of each trade have a far greater impact on trade values than us fans like to admit. No two trades are alike.

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12 Sep 2022 04:42:24
TO trades Robertson, Muzzin, Niemela, and Kerfoot for Crouse and Chykrun with Arizona keeping 3 million in cap. Leafs may have to add a second.

TO trades Sandin to the Rangers for Lundvquist.

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12 Sep 2022 15:50:13
How can this be a trade that would improve the Coyotes? All the players the Leafs are trading are either over the hill, injury prone, overpaid, under achieving ones that have very little value for 2 young, very good players that are signed long term at reasonable contracts.

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12 Sep 2022 23:50:48
islandjet
Reading what you posted you described one player in the proposal from The Leafs, that would be Muzzin and even saying that He is still a good Defenceman as long as he stays healthy.
The other 3 players don't fit over the hill, injury prone, over paid and under achieving at all.
Now if Sandin is exchanged in this proposal I actually could see Arizona being interested, but the Muzzin contract is still a problem unless he truly is done and can be put on LTIR imo.

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13 Sep 2022 16:17:57
If these players mentioned are that great why do they appear in so many trade post by Leaf fans? Just keep them.

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13 Sep 2022 20:04:12
I am not sure why at all Arizona would consider this trade? a team that is in a complete re build and other then neimela really nothing there that helps a rebuilding team that 4 years away! not to mention chychrun reported asking price alone was atleast 2 first or a first and a top prospect this is not even close and arizona is eating 3 million. not even close.

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14 Sep 2022 19:38:38
This is laughable. The other 31 teams do not exist to give up their talent to the leafs and take on their pieces. This is a garbage proposal unless you’re a true-blue leaf believer. Embarrassing proposal.

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20 Sep 2022 17:54:02
With Lundqvist traded today for a 1st, it sure goes to show how far off the offer of the sweetheart Sandin was.

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09 Sep 2022 23:31:12
heard a crazy idea that IF the murray samson oc experiment fails that scooby dubas would pivot to a trade for hellebuyck. i know this is a crazy crazy idea but just curious to know what the leafs would need to give up if it came down to this option? (btw i'm a jets fan)

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10 Sep 2022 00:42:18
Bucky ain't going anywhere and the leafs definitely don't have anything that would interest Chevy.

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10 Sep 2022 13:50:58
lukowich this isn't my idea or anything lol just sharing something i read haha.

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10 Sep 2022 16:46:41
The only way Chevy trades Helly is if Mikhail Berdin is NHL ready at a high #1 goalie level.
He would want a player that the Leafs wouldn't want to trade or retain $ on like Marner.
The Jets definitely wouldn't want or need soft, unmotivated Nylander or any combination of bottom level players or prospects.
The Leafs may not need a goalie if their 2 goalie signings pan out.

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10 Sep 2022 18:26:42
island jet that's why it says IF the murray samsonov experiment fails.

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10 Sep 2022 19:04:09
My gut says Hellebucyk is gone when his contract is done.

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11 Sep 2022 18:00:14
Yeah I guess Mathews wouldn’t be of interest to the jets. Marner probably wouldn’t crack the roster. That Nylander bum might crack the 4th line.

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11 Sep 2022 21:59:37
it isn't that those three couldn't crack the lineup. it is that any one of them would upset the salary structure of the team. .

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11 Sep 2022 23:13:40
Obviously the jets would taje Matthews and probably Marner but I'm pretty sure leaf fans are thinking Sandin, Muzzin, Robertson and a second.

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20 Sep 2022 11:01:06
If the leafs off Mathews for Helly the jets would buyout Connor and Ehlers to make the cap work.

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