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30 Sep 2022 02:57:53
Leafs. Chychrun
Arizona 2nd 2023 Robertson Niemela

Ducks Muzzin
Leafs 2nd 2023

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30 Sep 2022 03:38:26
Not even close. Arizona politely hangs up on Dubas.

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02 Oct 2022 21:52:59
What SeaBass said🤜.

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26 Sep 2022 02:41:42
to Detroit Red Wings:
(LD/RD) Oliver Kylington [2.50 @ 2 UFA]
(C) Adam Ruzicka [762k @ 2 RFA]
Third Round Pick in 2023

to Calgary Flames:
(LW/RW) Tyler Bertuzzi [4.75 @ 1 UFA]



to Ottawa Senators:
(LD/RD) Juuso Valimaki [1.55 @ 1 RFA]

to Calgary Flames:
Second Round Pick in 2023




J Huberdeau - E Lindholm - A Mangiapane
T Bertuzzi - N Kadri - T Toffoli
S Milano - M Backlund - B Coleman
M Lucic - C Eakin - D Dube

N Hanifin - R Andersson
M Weegar - C Tanev
N Zadorov - M Stone


J Vrana - D Larkin - L Raymond
D Kubalik - A Copp - D Perron
P Suter - R Fabbri - F Zadina
M Rasmussen - A Ruzicka - O Sundqvist

B Chariot - M Seider
O Kylington - F Hronek
O Maatta - J Oesterle

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26 Sep 2022 20:40:38
So, Ottawa gives up a second rounder and gets Valimaki? Am I right in seeing that?

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26 Sep 2022 22:19:12
Valimaki wouldn’t make Ottawas roster, however, I wouldn’t mind Kylington for a 2nd.

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27 Sep 2022 01:51:34
@seabass2011 yeah, idk if you mean that in a good or bad way.
@hockeydad Kylington is definitely worth more than a 2nd.

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27 Sep 2022 08:26:32
@NotACasual. information seeking way. Trying to figure out who's going where and for what. It's slightly confusing as to who's picks are going where.

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28 Sep 2022 01:12:40
Kylington thinks he's a forward 30% of the time so I think he could be an allstar 1 day but right now he's lost without Tanev covering for him. Id rather valimaki over kylington cause still got faith in valimaki if he wasn't so injury prone.

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24 Sep 2022 19:29:42
to Calgary Flames :
(LW/RW) Conor Garland [4.95 @ 4 UFA]

to Vancouver Canucks :
(LD/RD) Oliver Kylington [2.50 @ 2 UFA]
2ND Round Pick in 2023


Yes I'm aware the Flames would have to make cap space but how's the trade value wise. Flames get a needed Top 9 F, Canucks get a needed Top 4 D.



J Miller - E Pettersson - B Boeser
A Kuzmenko - B Horvat - N Hoglander
I Mikheyev - C Lazar - V Podkolzin
T Pearson - J Dickinson - J Dowling

O Ekman-Larsson - T Myers
Q Hughes - O Kylington
D DeKeyser - T Dermott


J Huberdeau - E Lindholm - T Toffoli
A Mangiapane - N Kadri - C Garland
S Milano - M Backlund - B Coleman
M Lucic - C Eakin - D Dube

N Hanifin - R Andersson
M Weegar - C Tanev
N Zadorov - J Valimaki

Believable19 Unbelievable28

24 Sep 2022 13:10:00
Montreal: Christian Dvorak, Kaiden Guhle and 2024 top 10 protected 1st changes to a 2025 unprotected 1st

Winnipeg: PLD+ cap dump

Montreal gets a very good 2c and Winnipeg gets a solid package for a player who wants to go.

Believable6 Unbelievable36

24 Sep 2022 13:30:39
Way too much in my opinion. Montreal wants to tank for Bedard and can potentially just sign PLD.

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24 Sep 2022 15:52:39
If PLD doesn't want to sign long term the Jets will trade him to a team he wants to play with, for a better return than this. Winning teams like NYR, LA, Florida, Colorado and Tampa have the type of players they would be willing to trade that the Jets would want in order to get PLD and ability to sign him long term.

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24 Sep 2022 16:44:23
I wouldn't part with Guhle for him. Guhle will be a top pairing Dman in 2 to 3 years.
Habs just acquired Dach, he will hopefully become that number 2C, also with this upcoming draft, maybe they don't get Bedard, but Fantilli would be a good pick, if it Habs are in top 3, which, there is a good chance.
I like PLD, but not enough to give up Guhle. He has the opportunity to be a cornerstone player for the Habs for the next 10 years plus.

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24 Sep 2022 20:44:49
That's a fairly easy no from Winnipeg. Plus Dubois has never said he wants to go.

At this point of the off season, Winnipeg isn't going to trade a top 6 center without having an equivalent top 6 center coming back. Barring that, it would take an exceptional offer to get Winnipeg thinking. A TDL value offer now, doesn't offer any enticement.

Guhle is alright, but as an LD doesn't give Winnipeg anything they need. Dvorak as an expensive, average 3C doesn't add much value and there is less than a 0% chance Winnipeg would agree to wait to until 24 for a protected pick.

All in all the Jets get at least this value at the TDL this year. The extra value of Guhle is more than offset negatively by have to wait 2 drafts for a protected pick.

There's just no logical reason for Winnipeg to consider this. Teams don't trade star players for pieces they don't need or protected picks years in the future.

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24 Sep 2022 20:52:09
Additionally, the Jets wouldn't lower Dubois' value by attaching a cap dump to him. Why would any team do that?

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25 Sep 2022 00:09:28
Easy no from MTL. They’re not trading Guhle OR a 2023 1st for a player who isn’t a difference maker. WPG has zero leverage to demand a package like this. The player clearly isn’t going to re-sign and the other 31 teams know it.

IF MTL wants him, they can sign him in 2 years as a UFA, but who knows if Gorton or Hughes like what he brings, let alone how much he’d want? Just because the player prefers the team doesn’t mean the team wants the player.

I hope WPG gets a good return for the fans to be happy about, but this is pure fantasy.

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28 Sep 2022 14:46:31
MTL turns it down. we can't give up our best D prospect for PLD. Pretty much just echo everything Sosa said.

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25 Oct 2022 11:39:27
This is most stupidest suggestion I saw on this entire site.
PLD for all that ? must be jets fanboy.

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21 Sep 2022 12:51:41
To Blues-Valimaki

To Flames-Kostin

Both are former 1st round picks, struggling to get icetime with current teams.
Flames get another big forward and Blues get a defenseman to fill in for Scandella, who is out for at least 6 months

Believable25 Unbelievable9

22 Sep 2022 03:22:07
Right on RENIDRAG, finally someone proposing a fair exchange that work for both teams👍.

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21 Sep 2022 09:20:39
What would it take for the Flames to get Anderson.

Is this close ?

Oliver klyngton
2024 second round

Believable1 Unbelievable19

21 Sep 2022 10:00:33
Not close to Anderson’s market value.

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20 Sep 2022 18:37:20
Toronto Trades
Muzzin
Woll (AHL)
3rd Round Pick 2023

Anaheim Trades
Future Considerations

Ducks have the cap space, and really giving up nothing for 3 assets is a win win situation for Anaheim.

This will solve the cap problem for The Leafs, yes its a sacrifice and Muzzin would have to agree being traded as he has a NTC, but it will open the door to signing Sandin or packaging him with Kerfoot for something else.


Thoughts ?

Believable92 Unbelievable108

21 Sep 2022 10:03:35
Wow, so many votes in so short a time…. astonishing turnaround Pinball! Isisally it takes you a few days to accumulate that many down-votes, so this is truly UNBELIEVABLE 😁.

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18 Sep 2022 04:39:40
J.Holl & late pick for J.Edmundson (saves Habs $1.5 & they get a pick, Habs could also flip Holl for another pick at the deadline, leafs simply improve)

N.Robertson & T.Lilejgren for R.Hintz (saves stars $1.5 to afford J.Robertson & unite the brothers & also add a slick cheap D-man, all for a guy with 1 year left they can't afford to keep anyway. Leafs replace Nylander cheaper & add size, see below)

W.Nylander & R.Sandin for M.Jones & J.Drysdale (leafs save $5 mil & secure a D-stud. Ducks get a affordable young star under contract and a economical good D-man with offensive upside)


Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Jankrok-Tavares-Hintz
Engvall-Kerfoot-Jones
Clifford-Kampf-Simmonds*Aube-Kubel

Rielly-Muzzin
Edmondson-Drysdale
Brodie-Giordano*Benn

Samsonov-Murray

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18 Sep 2022 21:55:54
Dallas declines but Holl + a better pick might make sense.

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19 Sep 2022 21:34:01
OMG the Habs and Stars hang up the phone laughing at these desperate asks. (I can’t call them offers. )

The Habs are counting on Edmundson to lead a very young D corps through what is sure to be another lottery finish. They’re getting lots of calls for the big guy on the fantastic contract, and Holl gets your number blocked. If he moves it will be for a generous offer, and this ain’t it.

Hintz really proved himself in the playoffs for Dallas, so to throw undersized “prospect” Robertson and Lilly at the Stars is ridiculous to hockey fans with even a passing interest in actual player values.

I didn’t read beyond the Dallas offer. There just wasn’t any point. Leaf fans rarely pitch credible offers, and usually see the rest of the league as a dumping ground for their bad contracts and never-will-be’s. You don’t get respect with posts like this.

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20 Sep 2022 10:59:15
I think the habs consider moving Edmonston for a 2nd Holl is just in there because the leafs would need to clear space.

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20 Sep 2022 17:50:49
VB - Holl is nothing, and the Habs would do better than a 2nd and Holl if they wanted to trade him, absolutely no question.

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22 Sep 2022 19:09:25
I don’t think Habs could do better then a 2nd for Edmonston imo.

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25 Sep 2022 00:17:05
VBBBBB…. Edmundson isn’t on the market, but is getting a lot of calls. That will increase by the deadline, especially at 3.5M/ year for this year and next. IF he were to move he won’t move for less than a 1st plus…just like Chiarot.

The Habs would be foolish to trade him, so if they do, it will be for a heck of a lot more than a 2nd🙄.

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