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11 Jun 2024 14:38:37
Ottawa Trades
Chychrun
Katchouk

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
Liljegren
DeWar
1st Round Pick 2026


Unless Chychrun is planning to resign which I believe he isn't in Ottawa, The Sens make a smart move in this proposal going forward in the future.

Leafs will be looking at bolstering Defense and Chychrun helps to get the off season shopping started, Katchouk a RFA will probably not be qualified making him a UFA imo.



Thoughts ?

Believable3 Unbelievable13

11 Jun 2024 15:31:47
In your own words you consider Chychrun the worst defenseman on the Senators roster because of his -30 +/ - stat.

Hes playing for a provincial and divisional rival, if he was going to be traded within Ontario the ask from Ottawa would be a lot more than 2 RFAs and a late 1st round pick considering they'll be seeing a lot of Chychrun with how often the leafs and Sens play each other.

You just continue to try and offer different combinations of Liljegren, Robertson, McMann or Dewar and that 1st rounder hoping that you'll find something that sticks.

You're absolutely braindead and you are wasting your time on here. Go play franchise mode on your ps5 where trades like this will still get rejected.

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12 Jun 2024 08:39:01
It’s trades like this that necessitate a Pinball quality control rule. One person littering this site with daily nonsense just lowers the experience.

#PinballNeedsATimeOut.

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11 Jun 2024 14:20:21
Carolina: Calgary 5th Round Pick 2024
Chicago: Kotkaniemi

Carolina: Washington 2nd Round Pick 2024
Utah: Orlov

Resign Skjei, Chatfeild, Jarvis, Guentzel

Make the Marner trade I posted
Still have enough to sign some depth forwards and D.

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11 Jun 2024 13:20:13
Something I think we might see on the draft floor on June 28th is the Calgary Flames drafting back to back in the 1st round.

With their 9th overall pick the Calgary Flames select Berkly Catton from the Spokane Chiefs.

And then... we have a trade to announce.

The New Jersey Devils trade their 10th overall pick to the Calgary Flames in exchange for Jacob Markstrom and the 62nd overall pick.

To New Jersey: Jacob Markstrom, pick #62 (2nd round)

To Calgary: Pick #10

Calgary uses this drama to announce that with the 10th overall pick, they select Tij Iginla from the Kelowna Rockets.

Calgary walks away from day 1 of the draft with 2 top 10 picks and the next generations Iginla to play for the Flames.

New Jersey walks away from day 1 of the draft with their starting goalie solidified and have a 2nd round pick to use on day 2(they currently have no 2nd round pick this year.)

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11 Jun 2024 14:49:59
Done deal for both teams.

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11 Jun 2024 21:00:41
I’m not sold on Markstrom returning the 10th overall pick. If a goalie is moved for 10th overall I see it being Saros/ Askarov or Sorokin. They are more comparable to Schnider due to age. Markstrom is not exactly young anymore.

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11 Jun 2024 02:21:07
Habs trade Guhle and Dvorak to Anaheim for Zegras
Sign Patrick Kane as free agent
Draft lindstrom 5th overall
1st line
Slavkosky Suzuki caufield
2nd line
Lindstrom 🔄dach Kane
3rd line
Newhook 🔄zegras Roy
4th line
Anderson evans Gallagher

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11 Jun 2024 12:13:25
Lindstrom should be sent back. He's got the size to be at the NHL level, but I feel like they've learned from Slav that there's no need to rush. Another year at junior would do him good.

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10 Jun 2024 22:14:09
CBJ: Boone Jenner, Sean Kuraly, Erik Gudbranson

OTT: Josh Norris, Mathieu Joseph, Conditional 2025 3rd (Norris plays less than 60 games it becomes a 2nd; less than 40 games it becomes a 1st).

Ottawa gets the veteran leadership help and 3rd-4th line help it seeks. Columbus gets a potentially young 1st or 2 nd line centre if he can stay healthy, a winger that can play up and down the line up, and rids themselves of one of their bad contracts

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10 Jun 2024 18:40:14
Utah: Tavares
Toronto: Toronto 2nd Round Pick 2025

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10 Jun 2024 20:19:11
Tavares has said numerous times he won't waive, and I don't see that changing.

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11 Jun 2024 00:22:29
Tavares isn't going anywhere. He plays way beyond his 3 hits. He won key faceoffs, hit, blocked shots. He's going to take substantially less after this contract.

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11 Jun 2024 14:39:26
I wasn’t aware I had to clarify that this is hypothetical and that on the slim chance he would waive his NMC, that this is a trade I feel would benefit both teams.

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11 Jun 2024 22:44:34
I disagree LMac. The cap relief would absolutely benefit the Leafs, but the return of only their 2nd round pick (somewhere between 55th-64th overall) wouldn't be enough value for their team captain and a fan favorite.

After 6 years of Tavares and only 1 playoff series win to show for it, I think most fans would be pretty annoyed if the final outcome of that $77 million contract is getting back their 2nd round pick next year.

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10 Jun 2024 16:44:14
Carolina: Marner and Conditional 3rd Round Pick 2026 (Conditions being if both Pesce and Necas resign)
Toronto: Rights to Pesce and Rights to Necas

(Worst case scenario Carolina gets 1 year of Marner and Toronto gets the Arb year of Necas)
(Best case scenario all 3 resign and Carolina gets a pick)

Thoughts?

Believable6 Unbelievable9

10 Jun 2024 20:22:34
- CAR is known for being cheap, so I doubt they (or anyone) will trade assets for one overpaid year of Marner before he goes to unrestricted free agency.

- you can't trade conditional picks anymore based on whether a traded contract re-signs.

- it's not out of the question that Marner would accept a trade, but if he does, the biggest return to the leafs will be cap flexibility. (Even that's a stretch, since a team will likely insist upon retention to make it work. )

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11 Jun 2024 13:06:01
The trade value is on point but unfortunately I don't think Carolina would be making a trade for Marner, the reports at the end of their season suggest that they want to re sign Guentzel and Skjei so they won't have the money to afford Marner. And Necas is being shopped because they want to sign Jarvis and can't afford to keep them both.

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10 Jun 2024 09:40:17
Tor: Reaves,Robertson, liljegren, kampf* , 5th round chi: 6th round. *kampf like every player on Toronto has partial ntc. Reaves would be ok as an enforcer. But Toronto wants him gone. 2 projects that have to be signed and Chicago gets a 3rd or 4th line c for their trouble taking all the riff raff.

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10 Jun 2024 20:32:50
- Lilly & Robertson will need to be qualified as RFA's at 874K & 814K, which is doable if CHI values either player.

- Trading 3 years of Kampf (7.2M) and 2 years of Reaves (2.7M) is going to take something sweeter than a 5th and a 6th. That kind of cap relief for those kinds of players will cost more assets than those 2 picks, and the leafs only have 4 picks in the top 4 rounds in each of the next 3 years, so they're not really in a position to sweeten the offer much.

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10 Jun 2024 22:30:02
Chicago giving a 6th for a 5th, plus taking Reaves, bad signing, but chicago can take that less then double league minimum. He can be 13th forward and be used accordingly. Kampf overpaid for his role on Toronto but maybe more useful in chicago. Would be great if chicago could sign the rfas at cheap 1 year prove it deals. But just saying this kinda thing is what Toronto should expect. not Robertson, liljegren, kampf and a draft pick for a top 4 defenseman.

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09 Jun 2024 16:40:27
Toronto Trades
McMann
Liljegren
1st Round Pick 2026

Washington Trades
Carlson*

*Caps retain 2 million a year for the next 2 years of Carlson's remaining contract.


Before anyone says Washington won't retain any money don't forget Backstrom is done and will be on LTIR next season before he officially retires after that, good move for Washington going forward imo.

Leafs get a veteran solid 2 way defenceman in Carlson which they will be looking to add this off season.



Thoughts ?

Believable7 Unbelievable13

09 Jun 2024 22:11:56
I dont believe Carlson is on the trade block, and if/ when he will be it will require a bigger return than this.

An RFA and a late 1st round pick with an AHL/ fring NHLer won't be enough to get a top 2 defenseman, when you ask for retention as well then the ask gets even bigger.

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09 Jun 2024 22:18:48
How is that a good move for Washington going forward. The first rounder good but mcman and Liljegren are crap that’s why you include them and Robertson in every trade.

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10 Jun 2024 00:04:14
Nashan
Tisk Tisk undervalue Leaf players once again?
Liljegren had 23 points in 58 games that's tied for second on Capitals Defense with Sandin, and Sandin played more games, and a +3.
McMann has shown to be a solid winger as well, neither is what you refer to as crap, Washington is doing a retool and partial rebuild, why wouldn't they look to the future with an asset like Carlson?
Don't understand why everyone on The Leafs have zero value it's baffling to me.

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10 Jun 2024 15:23:50
So would you take nic dowd, Ethan bear and a first from Washington for Reilly?

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10 Jun 2024 20:44:51
- Nashan isn't undervaluing your leaf pieces in that trade Pinball, so save the whining for something other than hockey.

- McMann is 27 years old with a total of 65 NHL games. He's not a prospect or a player, because his track record tells us exactly who he is. He's an asset whose main skill seems to be maintaining a body temperature of around 98F.

- Lilly is the softest D-man I can think of at this moment, and at 25 years old and almost 200 games played, hockey people understand who and what he is. (You must know too since you included him and your current "usual suspects" in every repetitive version of your latest trade. )

- The only asset you're giving up of value is the leafs 1st, which demonstrates your limited knowledge of hockey. The leafs don't have enough picks or prospects to hand out any more.

- You didn't include anything for retention. OOPS! A 1st doesn't get you Carlson. with 2M retained. That's just hillarious.

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10 Jun 2024 21:43:15
Nashan
More like Milano, Sandin and a 1st Rounder for Rielly I would yes.
Not Dowd and Bear they aren't as good as McMann and Liljegren.
Plus you forgot to mention that The Cap top players are past their prime, this Leaf team in 5 or 6 years Will be like Washington.
That's why Washington not Toronto is looking to the future.

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10 Jun 2024 22:27:09
Chickenfoot
Yes I know teams only want Leaf players like Marner for a frindge prospect a washed up player and a 2nd Rounder.
I keep forgetting I am on let's undervalue every Leaf Player site.

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10 Jun 2024 23:20:23
Carlson likely just rides it out with the Caps. Big prove it year for Lily coming up. He's either going to be a bottom pairing dman going forward or he's gonna show his worth as a top 4 dman. The other thing is if the Caps want Lily they could very easily send him an offer sheet and put the Leafs in a tough spot.

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11 Jun 2024 15:00:09
If the Caps top players like Carlson are past their prime, then why do you want him on the Leafs?

No need to be a drama queen and have a panic attack when people disagree with you.

You're offering a past his prime AHL player, a late 1st round pick and an RFA who will be too old when the Capitals are back to being contenders.

In return you're asking for arguably one of the top 10 right handed defensemen in the league. Don't act so surprised when people disagree with you.

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09 Jun 2024 09:51:55
Calgary Flames :
- Andrew Mangiapane (5.80 @ 1 UFA)

Chicago Blackhawks :
- 2024 50th Overall Selection (TBL)

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10 Jun 2024 09:05:56
Why? Small overpaid winger. There's fa's will be better values. Maybe Ottawa 3rd(72nd) and that's good value to Calgary cause not many teams paying to take that salary. Hes just not worth that.

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09 Jun 2024 09:51:45
Calgary Flames :
- Jacob Markstrom (3M @ 2 UFA)
- 2024 28th Overall Selection (VAN)
- 2024 62nd Overall Selection (DAL)

New Jersey Devils :
- 2024 10th Overall Selection (NJD)


(Flames retain 50% of Markstrom’s Salary)

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09 Jun 2024 21:03:24
Using something of a comparable, Cory Schneider was traded straight up for 9OA, not sure Calgary would be adding nearly what you suggest, consider Flames are retaining g.

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09 Jun 2024 22:38:30
Cory Schnider was what? Something like 22 years old coming off of an elite cup run. Schnider had hype and hadn’t reached his potential. Markstrom is in his 30s and isn’t comparable at all.

The best comparable is Ben Bishop when traded from Tampa to LA.

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10 Jun 2024 20:46:27
Realistic trade.

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11 Jun 2024 12:24:15
Schneider was 26 making $4mill. For a team like NJ who is a goalie away from being back in the playoffs I'd say it's a good deal. Markstrom has shown to be a good goalie and with the goalie market being pretty slim NJ may be willing to part with the #10 pick.

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