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04 Sep 2020 16:52:42
Patrick Laine just posted his house and cars for sale in Winnipeg It could be a coincidence but with the rumours swirling could be something to it.
1.) 04 Sep 2020 18:20:00
Where did you get that info?
2.) 04 Sep 2020 19:12:50
Islandjet trying to stalk laine.
3.) 04 Sep 2020 19:42:18
vbbv is just hoping he gets more Laine trade rumors going by watching Laine's condo. No he isn't going to be traded.
03 Sep 2020 18:09:58
Winnipeg- Patrick Laine and 10th overall
New Jersey- Kyle Pamileri 50% retained, Damon Severson, Ty Smith and 20th overall
Jets- the jets get a top 4 RHD which is their weakness, a NHL ready potential top 4 LHD , a cheap 2 way replacement for Laine and 1st.
New Jersey- Laine and Hughes would be the definition of dynamic and they move up 10 spots.
1.) 03 Sep 2020 18:35:05
Maybe drop both firsts?
2.) 03 Sep 2020 19:49:53
Ya I think if you drop the firsts then itâs closer.
3.) 03 Sep 2020 19:58:49
Only fills one hole for the Jets while it opens another and Smith is LD while RD would be a better fit. It would probably need to be built around Hischier or Hughes than a collection of lesser parts.
4.) 03 Sep 2020 20:37:28
Dream on that's a horrible trade for Laine who isn't going to be traded from the Jets.
5.) 03 Sep 2020 22:48:49
Thatâs not that bad but i think they can get better value for Laine
6.) 04 Sep 2020 04:04:41
Itâs pretty highly speculated that Laine has played his last game as an jet. This trade gives them a replacement, top 4 RHD and a really good d prospect. I think if they drop the 1sts Winnipeg wins the deal but I guess itâs not awful for Jersey. Hischer and Hughes Wonât be moved for anyone on the Jets.
7.) 04 Sep 2020 17:44:21
and laine wonât be moved for anyone on new jersey lol.
31 Aug 2020 16:43:29
3 way trades rarely work but in this instance I could see it working.
Winnipeg- Dylan Strome
Pittsburgh- Andrew Copp
Chicago- Matt Murray, Kristian Vesalianen/Logan Stanley and Winnipeg's 2nd 2020
Winnipeg- Gets a big playmaking 2c in which they desperately need while only swapping out a 3c, Lottery ticket prospect and 2nd round pick. 2c is obviously a much harder roll to fill then 3C.
Pittsburgh- needs a 3C which is probably their biggest current hole. Strome is more suited for offensive zone starts hence not swapping Murray+ for Strome. Copp fills that role perfectly and more importantly cheaply.
Chicago- so apparently there is mutual interest for a deal here with involving Murray. It's currently circleing Twitter. They get a high risk/high reward reclamation project, a decent prospect and pick.
1.) 31 Aug 2020 19:28:33
Too much from Winnipeg for Strome. Drop the second or Copp and it's closer.
2.) 31 Aug 2020 19:31:10
Even with Murray being a chance, he's worth more than copp i think.
Wpg should wait and see if someone gets bought out and might be a good free agent signing. I don't think they're giving up more value than strome is worth, but it's a few pieces they might like to hang onto. Or use to upgrade D.
3.) 31 Aug 2020 21:03:30
I think the Jets give up too much to make this trade work. They need to trade for a skilled, physical, play making #2 center. Strome is a pending RFA who will expect a $6 mil plus contract. He isn't worth Copp, Ves, Stanley and a 2nd. Copp isn't worth Murray. The only winner is Chicago. A lot of posts here are meant to hurt the Jets not make them better.
4.) 31 Aug 2020 21:58:58
Strome wonât get 6 million. And you described exactly how Strome plays lol.
5.) 31 Aug 2020 22:05:51
Why do you jets fans always think these players are going to get significant raises? Strome wonât be getting over 6M, especially now. I think if Chicago sends like a 3rd or 4th to Pittsburgh it makes the value a little closer.
6.) 01 Sep 2020 00:20:06
Chicago gives up an RFA and receives a package? Robbed
7.) 01 Sep 2020 18:11:26
Copp is the weakest link in this trade. pittsburgh would just skip over winnipeg and deal murray for strome. gee how that makes sense for both clubs
Why would either team include winnipeg?
Homers write what?
8.) 02 Sep 2020 04:22:06
Strome>>>Murray. Strome will ask to much for Pittsburgh and is awful defensively.
28 Aug 2020 05:42:42
It looks like OEL's time in Arizona is done and I think he is the LHD the habs need.
Arizona- Oliver Ekman Larsson
Montreal- Johnathan Drouin , Victor Mete, Cayden Primeau, Karl Alzner and 1st 2020
Arizona- Brings in a player with a ton of talent in Drouin, A solid bottom Pairing dman in Mete, a young goalie with a ton of potential and a 1st.
Montreal- gets out of Alzners contract while bringing in a top pairing LHD.
1.) 28 Aug 2020 10:03:23
Yikes thatâs a steep price, if they leave Alzner out of the package they could get him a little cheaper
2.) 28 Aug 2020 13:21:52
It is steep but I'm not against this. OEL would be good and make our top 4 D pretty good. Primeau would be a loss for sure as well as Drouin but I think there is some young talent coming up to replace Drouin.
Would Arizona take it? Not sure, i thought Darcy played very well this year. Drouin would be nice and Mete would help out in the back and could become better over time. A first in a deep draft is always good. I think Arizona might be hesitant. But I am biased toward MTL.
3.) 28 Aug 2020 13:22:19
Alzner has to stay as part of the package though.
4.) 28 Aug 2020 13:56:37
Trading too many young pieces for a shot with price in my opinion. Price is fantastic, let him decide to stay or move, but don't risk what's probably 4 long term pieces to get oel.
5.) 28 Aug 2020 15:02:10
That's to much from Habs.
6.) 28 Aug 2020 18:38:53
Youâre not getting a number 1 dman signed long term for a package that doesnât hurt.
7.) 31 Aug 2020 07:31:20
Vbbbvvbb,
Sure you can get a 1 D signed long term for cheaper watch.
Wait for Romanov or Norlinder to take over sign them to an 8 year extension. Boom done for free!
8.) 31 Aug 2020 16:04:54
Way too much from MTL, and Arizona is NOT taking on any dead salary like Alzner's. They don't have the cap space and are back to pinching pennie$.
26 Aug 2020 07:24:14
Toronto- William Nylander, Travis Dermott and 15th overall
Buffalo- Rasmus Ristolianen 50% retained, Casey Mitelddestad and 8th overall
Toronto- clears cap space, adds a big physical RHD who'd be very cheap and can eat top pairing minutes, a lottery ticket in mitelddstad and a top 10 pick in a deep draft.
Buffalo- Adds a scoring winger who they desperately need, a dman to challenge McCabe and move down 7 spots in draft.
1.) 26 Aug 2020 13:28:15
If Buffalo is adding Nylander and his inflated cap hit, then they won't retain 50% of ristolainen's salary.
2.) 26 Aug 2020 14:18:07
Lol you wish, VB.
3.) 26 Aug 2020 16:08:08
I think itâs pretty good VB!
4.) 31 Aug 2020 16:15:28
No from BUF.
Toronto fans always overvalue their assets.
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09 Sep 2020 01:11:33
It absolutely kills my mind seeing the two unnamed jets fans put down a player who verbally speaks out towards his discontentment towards losing. What has happened to society where people believe it's wrong to want to succeed. A player like Eichel is who you want on your team. Not a player who is satisfied with coming 2nd place.
1.) 09 Sep 2020 14:51:48
Ryan oârelly complained about a culture thing in buffalo as well. And he has found a lot of success since they traded him. Didnât Patrik berglund just quit hockey after he got traded to buffalo? I think Eichel talking about wanting to win is more of an indictment of the organization than it is a case of whiny superstar.
2.) 09 Sep 2020 15:11:44
VB - are you serious? What is happening to society? I thought you would have been kicked off this site the other week when someone didn't agree with your opinion and you called them autistic.
3.) 14 Sep 2020 14:55:58
Hey man weâre all hockey fans. And weâre all passionate about our teams and players.
29 Aug 2020 23:27:51
I have a bad feeling that the leafs are going to absolutely decimate their lineup to sign piertrangelo this off-season.
Leafs lineup-
Human-Mathews-Marner
Roberson-Tavares-Nylander
Mihkyev-Spezza-Korshkov
Barbonov-Rodigues-Gauthier
Rielly-Pietrangelo
Muzzin-Holl
Sandin-Gudas
UFA
Campbell
Leafs will have about 20million in cap space to sign Peterangelo, Gudas, a goalie and Mikheyev
1.) 30 Aug 2020 09:08:33
Idk if Iâll get hate for saying this cause everyone hates the leafs for some reason but this lineup doesnât look bad at all. Looks like a solid playoff team imo, just got to add more grit in free agency. Rinaldo, Clifford. Girgensons would even be a solid addition to the bottom 6.
2.) 30 Aug 2020 16:45:25
Petro just announced he wanted to stay a blue. Armstrong said they are working on a deal. All roads point to him resigning in stl.
3.) 30 Aug 2020 19:24:47
@Colt so which 2 of Bozak, Steen, Parayko and Allen are leaving? And if itâs Bozak or Steen what young players are they giving up to get rid of their contracts?
Also vb I really donât think the leafs will sign Gudas. It sounds to me like Dubas wants to keep Dermott around, and donât forget they also signed Lehtonen who can play that bottom pairing role.
They could probably use that money to get a much better 3C then Spezza.
4.) 30 Aug 2020 19:38:03
@RussianColt
We all thought the same about JT.
5.) 30 Aug 2020 21:43:21
Elliott Friedman- âMany NHL execs are already calling Gudas a future leafâ. This was said on his podcast. It sounds like he is.
6.) 31 Aug 2020 02:32:04
Welp then Dubas is signing an aging and declining player who seems to just be a big body out there. Hopefully itâs for below 2 million.
7.) 31 Aug 2020 10:00:36
Iâd really like to see Derek Forbort and Radko Gudas on the 3rd D Pair, along with Clifford, Spezza & Girgensons their 4th Line.
14 Jul 2020 17:29:20
My list of top 10 most valuable players in NHL considering contracts and age.
1. Nathen Mackinnon
2. Leon Draistle
3. David Pasternak
4. Rasmus Dahlin
5. Elias Petterson
6. Seth Jones
7. Colten Paryanko
8. Connor McDavid
9. Jacob Slavin
10. Victor Hedman
I really don't think McDavid is worth 12.5 million obviously he's the best player in the NHL but 1 player Dosent win a Stanley cup. Not saying If I'm the oilers I move McDavid for seth Jones but I don't think they can build a good team until the cap goes way up.
1.) 14 Jul 2020 18:28:28
If Seth Jones is more valuable than why wouldnât you trade McDavid for him? That extra 2.5M in cap wonât improve the team enough for the drop off in talent from McDavid to the next guy. McDavid >>> Draisaitl. Having guys on ELC doesnât make a lot of sense either. Also I strongly disagree with Paraykoâs value.
2.) 14 Jul 2020 21:27:28
McDavid makes 2x as much as Jones and over that of Paryanko. As per ELC players my thoughts are theyâll sign cheaper deals being within a financial crisis. Could be wrong. Also why I wouldnât move McDavid for anyone besides Mackinnon is because no matter how bad the oilers are McDavid will fill up the stands.
3.) 14 Jul 2020 23:50:55
The Oilers will fill the stands no matter what if there good and mostly even when there bad, so thatâs not much of a reason. McDavid is 4x the player Parayko is. Tough to gauge it all when it comes to age, position, talent but Iâd take McDavid over Jones and his salary all day.
4.) 15 Jul 2020 07:26:24
Including someone on an ELC here is pretty stupid, even for your standards, VB
Also, reply in league chat please.
5.) 15 Jul 2020 07:31:28
Kucherov at 9.5 and Point at 6.7 are also both good shouts, imo.
Also, as long as we're still in 19/ 20, 4M Josi HAS to be on and probably near the top of that list.
6.) 15 Jul 2020 14:05:09
I think that McDavid can go up higher also. I understand that he makes a crazy amount of money, but if you consider him and Drais compared to Crosby and Malkin when they signed their contracts - it is probably very similar % and that seemed to work out not so bad for PIT.
The ELC's have no place up there. So many stipulations around them and they are max amount and term. They may make less because of the flat cap or to be honest we might see teams with a lot of cap space offer sheet them out of their market and plan on the fact that it is a 5 year plan for a team rebuild.
I agree with Triplets. Point has to be up there and probably Kuch as well.
7.) 15 Jul 2020 14:40:27
Ohh god I forgot about Josi and the Tampa players I just did this super quick to prove a point that connor McDavid isnât worth as much as most people think. I doubt Tampa would do a McDavid for Kucherov swap.
8.) 15 Jul 2020 17:48:39
Lol only VB can say that McDavid is overpaid and misspell ''doesn't'' in the same sentence.
09 Jul 2020 14:53:51
Kind've bored so I'm going to make a list of where I think Free agents are going to go.
Taylor Hall- Calgary
Alex Pietrangelo-Saint Louis and If not could be anywhere.
Travis Hamonic-Winnipeg
Tj Bodie- Toronto or Calargry
Hoffman- Arizona
Dandonov- Florida
Hoaltby-Carolina
Markstrom-Vancouver
Demelo- Winnipeg
Buffuglyn- Retired
Green- Edmonton
Krug-Detroit/LA
Shattenkurk-Boston
Barrie-Not sure to be honest
Thortan/Marleau-Retired
1.) 09 Jul 2020 16:24:57
Good post. I'm not sure the Jets would sign Hamonic unless its for under $5 mil per and only 3 years. I don't think any team will break the bank to sign UFA for big dollars and long term in this uncertain cap era. RFA signings may go up to take advantage of teams that are up against the cap and can't re-sign their own players. Getting a younger player in their prime will be much more attractive.
2.) 09 Jul 2020 19:32:30
I donât think the Oilers will sign Green unless itâs close to league minimum. They have a couple questions on D for next year but the they donât have a lot of cap space.
3.) 09 Jul 2020 23:46:27
Where do you see Kovalchuck going?
4.) 10 Jul 2020 15:59:37
Hamonic to Winnipeg for 4.5 for 5 years. Mike Green to Edmonton 1 year 1 million and Kovy to Montreal not sure what the contract will look like.
5.) 10 Jul 2020 16:31:07
I highly doubt the Jets would bite on Hamonic at 5 years especially at 4.5. I don't think the Jets will go that high dollar wise and definitely not term wise for Hamonic. If he wants to play close to home he's going to need to come on our terms, not his, as he really doesn't add much for us that can't be added cheaper.
6.) 10 Jul 2020 17:55:30
In the new C-19 NHL Hamonic is too expensive at $4.5 plus the term would have to be 3 years at most. The Jets have Samberg, Heinola, Niku and Stanley ready in the next couple of seasons so they don't need a long term contract on an ageing player.
7.) 11 Jul 2020 01:46:01
Do you guys ever see Free agents that being payed fairly.
8.) 11 Jul 2020 04:50:33
Holtby could be a good fit in carolina but the owner won't have the money too sign him.
9.) 11 Jul 2020 04:53:51
I don't doubt that Hamonic will get overpayed and too long a term from someone, it just likely won't be Winnipeg. He's just not a big enough need.
10.) 11 Jul 2020 06:51:05
VB what about Toffoli.
11.) 11 Jul 2020 20:14:47
I would also like to hear about Toffoli and Haula. Honestly I kind of want Haula in Toronto because he will probably be a great cheap 3 C for a year or two. Would love to see a 3rd line of:
Robertson-Haula-Kapanen
Leafs can move Kerfoot+Johnsson to make space.
12.) 11 Jul 2020 21:42:53
Haula wonât be cheap probably around 4 million in Florida and Toffoli will resign in Vancouver.
28 Jun 2020 07:32:17
Top 30 dman in the nhl I find it sad who most people just look at offensive production to judge dman but defending is the most important.
1. Victor Hedman
2. Seth Jones
3. Jacob Slavin
4. Colten Paryanko
5. John Carlson
6. Drew Doughty
7. Roman Josi
8. Alex Pietrangelo
9. Brent Burns
10. Erik Karlsson
11. Shea Weber
12. Ryan Suter
13. Charlie McAvoy
14. Dougie Hamilton
15. Rasmus Dahlin
16. Morgan Rielly
17. Miro Hieskanen
18. Mark Girodano
19. Arron Eklblad
20. Cale Makar
21. OEL
22. Mattias Ekholm
23. Ryan McDonagh
24. Thomas Chabot
25. John Klingburg
26. Brett Pesce
27. Ivan Provonov
28. Quinn Hughes ( key example of a offensive dman who contributes negatively defensively he'll develop into a better player then Karlsson imo )
29. Zach Werenski
30. Hampus Lindholm
31. Jacob Trouba
Missed- Dumba, Orlov, Brodin, Ellis, Schimit, Theodore,
1.) 29 Jun 2020 22:23:04
It's a better list than I coulda made VB. PK Subban has fallen that far hey. not saying I disagree with ya.
I'm not sure in the order, however it's a pretty good list. I will agree with number 1 though.
2.) 29 Jun 2020 22:29:37
Yah last year was pretty sad for Subban.
3.) 29 Jun 2020 22:48:26
The one guy I'm glad to see in the list is Ekholm. I think on any other team he would grab some Norris votes and me a number 1. he's had Weber, Subban and Josi always overshadow him.
Maybe I'm jumping the gun a bit., I don't get to see a lot of Preds, but everytime I have watched him, he's a stud Dman. with a better Offensive game than he is credit with.
With Josi and Ellis, he doesn't need the Offense in his game.
4.) 30 Jun 2020 02:38:04
Yeah for sure heâs a super underrated player.
5.) 30 Jun 2020 02:39:53
Just realized I forgot Kris Letang. When heâs healthy Iâd put him in between MaCavoy and Hamilton.
6.) 30 Jun 2020 03:35:16
So many good Dmen in the game. I also don't see Josh Morrisey., I think he is really good. not sure who he takes out. just shows his solid the D are in the NHL.
7.) 30 Jun 2020 13:39:10
I donât think he makes the list players like Ryan Ellis, Brodin and Theodore is take over him.
8.) 01 Jul 2020 20:54:35
I'd say Josi is definetely top3. He's the frontrunner for the Norris and is probably one of the best skating dmen in the league. I'd def put him up there with Hedman.
9.) 02 Jul 2020 06:44:55
Josi is miles better than Doughty. SHould be top 3, I agree with TSS.
10.) 02 Jul 2020 17:18:57
I just feel like Doughty gets underrated playing on a awful team.
11.) 02 Jul 2020 21:14:23
Seth Jones is way higher then he should be, may not even be in my top 15 let alone top 10.
Imo he is one of the most overrated players in the game.
12.) 03 Jul 2020 07:17:21
I'd say Doughty is actually one of the more overrated players in this league. People still somehow think he's a top 3 D in this league while he is Top 20 at best, if at all.
13.) 03 Jul 2020 14:55:23
Wow I totally disagree with that but youâre entitled to your opinion.
14.) 04 Jul 2020 04:18:07
Not really a fan of him but Doughty is still top 10 imo.
14 Sep 2020 15:44:47
Actually not bad I really think DeAngelo is overrated but itâs not bad.
12 Sep 2020 09:48:19
No way Eklblad is moved and the 1st trade is actually interesting obviously Josi is better but he is 7 years older and itâs not like Nashville is ready to compete.
12 Sep 2020 09:46:53
Just totally disregard the top pairing RHD in Eklblad and just look at the cap dump used to make the deal less terrible for the Panthers. Eklblad>>>>>Nylander.
09 Sep 2020 01:07:14
Orr theyâll just attach multiple 1sts and prospect to dump contracts instead of trading their best winger.
09 Sep 2020 01:05:49
I think reading Egyptian hyroglythics is more legible then this.