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10 Dec 2019 11:02:28
Colorado- Byram

Montreal- Kotekneimi

Colorado has probably the deepest blue line in the NHL and Kotekneimi has been struggling this season and LHD is Montreal's weakness.

1.) 10 Dec 2019 11:48:03
Kotkaniemi isn’t doing well because Montreal is using him wrong. If they can’t give him a role in the top 6 then they should put him in the AHL where he can develop properly. Giving him sheltered minutes on the third line and having him focus on defense and shutting down the other team doesn’t seem like the best use of a 3rd overall pick.

2.) 10 Dec 2019 12:22:14
Anyway, KK is out with a concussion now after Zadorov destroyed him with a hit. So I don’t think he will be going anywhere right now.

3.) 10 Dec 2019 13:33:00
KK isn't anywhere close to Byram in value. Montreal would need to add here.

4.) 10 Dec 2019 17:11:51
If aves aren’t sure about trading byram for hall, this isn’t close.

5.) 10 Dec 2019 17:50:28
Kk did struggle this year before the injury but Byram isn't exactly lighting it up in junior this year either. So I think it's fair to say that it's possible neither team considers this.

6.) 10 Dec 2019 18:36:40
Col says no to this. They might make Girard + 1st available for Hall because they have Byram coming up. And it’s a rumor they don’t want to include Byram in a deal for Hall so I doubt they trade him for KK. I think they value him more, and will not trade him.

7.) 10 Dec 2019 21:24:26
I would not do this from MTL.

8.) 11 Dec 2019 00:44:12
Byram is not looking like a #1 defensemen, more like a solid top4. KK is looking like a 70 point center once he is in his prime.

9.) 11 Dec 2019 14:49:24
Hall is a UFA. Kotekneimi>Hall imo.

06 Dec 2019 01:13:57
Calgary shake up.

Calgary: Frolik ( 4.3 mil for 1 year ), Oliver Klyington LHD and 1st 2020

New Jersey: Kyle Pamilari 1 mil retained ( 3.6 mil for 2 seasons )

Calgary- Gets a top line RW goal scorer signed cheap for 2 seasons while gaining cap space.

New Jersey- Gets a pick for rebuild and a solid LHD prospect who can step right in.

1.) 06 Dec 2019 08:12:41
None of those guys going to Jersey helps them in any way. Palmieri is top line player and second to Hall in points in the team. They aren’t going to lose him for futures with no guarantee and a cap dump.

2.) 06 Dec 2019 08:45:59
Would rather let Frolik walk than giving up Kylington and a 1st

3.) 06 Dec 2019 10:05:12
You’re not giving the 1st and Kylington to dump Frolik you’re giving it acquire a top line RW which Calgary is evidently lacking. Also why wouldn’t they trade Pamaleri for futures they’re a bottom 5 team in NHL.

4.) 06 Dec 2019 14:42:45
Because they want to compete now. That was the whole point in signing Simmonds and bringing in Subban. They think they are done rebuilding.

5.) 06 Dec 2019 14:48:01
Hall, Zajac, Simmonds, Greene, Vatanen, and Subban are the players going to get traded before they consider trading Palmieri.

6.) 06 Dec 2019 16:29:32
Too bad jersey didn't pick up a decent goalie in the off season, I really do think a good goalie can mask problems and speed up a rebuild.

7.) 06 Dec 2019 18:31:39
Calgary adds unprotected first for Frolik the minus machine detriment.

8.) 06 Dec 2019 18:47:45
Top line RW? I thought that's what Lindholm is for?

9.) 06 Dec 2019 23:39:01
He’s playing C a lot this season. ( Lindholm ) also I’m sure Ottawa wants to compete now but it’s just not going to happen.

18 Nov 2019 09:16:20
Toronto- Tyson Barrie

Calgary- Travis Hamonic ( retained to equal barries salary

Both teams struggling Calgary offensively and Toronto defensively. Barrie can get #1 pp time in Calgary.

1.) 18 Nov 2019 18:42:51
Interesting proposal VB.
I just read that the Flames contacted the Leafs with an offer for Barrie. Deal is around Bennett for Barrie. Leafs would like to involved Rasmus Anderson somehow as well. Flames would want to include Stone before Anderson.
Both teams struggling, I think they could make a deal to shake things up tho.

2.) 19 Nov 2019 04:54:41
Omg please for the whole leafs front office if they take Stone over Andersson.

3.) 19 Nov 2019 05:02:35
I would say no way calgary moves rasmus andersson.

4.) 19 Nov 2019 05:04:09
I like this trade alot. Solid defensive defencemen for a solid offensive defencemen. However i kinda like Yupps rumour. i'd do Andersson for Barrie before i'd part with Hamonic.

Giordano - Barrie
Hanifin - Hamonic
Brodie - Kylington

Rielly - Andersson
Muzzin - Holl
Dermott - Ceci

5.) 19 Nov 2019 13:51:04
Ohh crap I miss read that disregard my last reply.

11 Nov 2019 12:02:43
New Jersey- Taylor Hall

Colorado- Zandorov, Kuat and 1st 2020.

Mark Stone comparable-

New Jersey- gets a top 4 LHD which is their biggest need, Kuat 16th overall pick in 2017 is struggling coming of an injury but the potential is still there and a 1st.

Colorado- With Byram coming up that'll make Zandorov expendable. Taylor Hall is an elite player that could really help them on the second line.

1.) 11 Nov 2019 20:04:32
What if it was a conditional 1st. If Hall doesn’t resign it’s a 3rd. Either way I think it would be a good deal for both teams. One less D Colorado would have to protect in the expansion draft too.

2.) 12 Nov 2019 05:38:37
Just a 1st for rental Hall is needed.

18 Oct 2019 22:30:37
" To Leafs
B. Tkachuk- Adds goal scoring and grit.

Sens-
W. Nylander-skilled centre or winger
Kerfoot-speedy centre
N. Robertson- Leaf prospect averaging 2pts a game with the Peterborough Petes in OHL
2nd rd pick 2021"

This is a copy and paste from HF Boards with Senators fans saying they'd take it and run with all other fans saying leafs lose. I feel like you guys will have a much different take.

1.) 18 Oct 2019 22:44:13
Wow. Them handful of Sens fans on that site are just as dumb as their owner.

2.) 18 Oct 2019 23:30:59
Yikes, that’s a fat no from Ott.

3.) 19 Oct 2019 05:42:02
Sens take on 10 mil more in cap seems highly unlikely especially for them.

4.) 19 Oct 2019 06:35:11
No from Sens

5.) 19 Oct 2019 12:10:03
Sens laugh and hangup right away.

6.) 19 Oct 2019 12:10:24
Either this site has heavy bias against the leafs or there is Differentiations of hockey knowledge between the two sites. While HF boards may have a higher concentration of leafs fans the Ottawa fans still like it. I think people should look at this form posted on HF Boards I feel as if many people here have been Brainwashed into Believing Nylander isn’t a great hockey player. I for 1 believe Ottawa takes this and runs but as said Melynk does not take the 10 million it can be argued Nylander is currently the better player then Tkachuk ( we all know this site’s opinion as an whole ) Kerfoot a young 3C, A solid prospect and a pick.

7.) 19 Oct 2019 13:42:12
I looked up that trade on there and it seems to me most sens fans didn't like the trade but to be fair I only read a few pages of the replies.

8.) 19 Oct 2019 13:57:13
I don't think either team takes this kind of deal. Sens would add a lot to their cap and are in a full rebuild. Tkachuk may command 7-8 million in summer 2021 but that's not until the conclusion of next year. By then kerfoot would only have a year left and nylander only 2.tkachuk would have 5 years of control plus whatever extra years of ufa ottawa signs him to in his next contract. ottawa passes

Toronto while taveras is hurt would be left with only 1 top 3 center. Even when he comes back this deal still makes leafs worst right now . which right now is the goal not in a few years. Yes the cap savings is great butwhats the point of icing a cap savings team. Unless toronto replaces kerfoot right now than this leaves the leafs weak up the middle. i'd also hate losing robertson. he'd be
Reády when johnsson is an ufa. toronto passes

Not a bad thinker of a deal.

9.) 19 Oct 2019 20:03:42
Lol what? How are people saying this is bad for the Sens? The bias against the leafs in this website is going way to far. Hear the leafs are trading an elite winger, a 3C who can jump into a top 6 role, a future top 6 forward, and a 2nd for an elite winger.

Nylander straight up is fair. Lay I checked Tkachuk has yet to hit 50 points while Nylander has hit 60 twice.

10.) 19 Oct 2019 20:46:11
Robertson is a defenceman no? Lighting up the OHL. We’re ypu referring to another prospect named Robertson?

11.) 19 Oct 2019 21:20:25
Isn't nylander on pace for 50 points? It's not like he's tearing up the ice or anything. Not saying he won't get there but ill hold off on the elite talk for awhile yet.

12.) 19 Oct 2019 22:22:11
I’m still hoping for vbb’s prediction of Nylander 90pts and Marner 130pts. The leafs are barely holding a playoff spot and without Tavares, it may be a tough couple weeks or more. It’s still early but Toronto hasn’t beat a good team yet.

13.) 19 Oct 2019 23:15:54
Robertson is a LW who is indeed off to a great stsrt along with another leaf prospect as his center SDA.

14.) 20 Oct 2019 01:12:00
Is Brady Tkachuk really that much better than Nylander that Leafs need to add all that? It’s a huge premium.

15.) 20 Oct 2019 03:48:10
Nylander is an elite winger? You do realize he’s on pace for about 45-50 points right? Not exactly elite unless standards have fallen more that I realized.

16.) 20 Oct 2019 11:34:50
Aho is on Pace for 30 does that mean he’s not elite?

17.) 20 Oct 2019 17:37:53
No it doesn't vbbb but at least he was elite at one point of his career.

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28 Dec 2019 17:08:31
Just a small rant here.

I think the corruption within the the Canadian world junior team is ridiculous. Players who choose the NCAA route are 99% of the time blacklisted and a prime example of this is Alex Newhook. This guy will be a stud in the NHL and could easily crack the top 6 of Canada as a winger or be the 3C his 2 way game is on point. He'd be a stand out player but the coaching staff compromised of CHL team owners cut him to send a message. Players should not be punished for choosing education as a fall back option. This isn't the 1st case either same thing happened at the U18s

1.) 28 Dec 2019 17:59:05
I don't know if I agree with that VB. However, I don't really follow these kids as much as I'd like. well. who would you take off to allow Newhook a spot?

2.) 28 Dec 2019 19:05:56
Well, after that one VB, he coulda replaced anyone 🤦‍♂️. what a bad showing by Team Canada.

3.) 28 Dec 2019 19:47:44
The only forwards better then Newhook are Lafranier, Veleno and Hayton he can be the top line RW.

4.) 28 Dec 2019 21:02:26
I actually don't see him being better then at least 9 of the forwards like every year with Canada a lot of good players don't make the team.

5.) 28 Dec 2019 22:18:39
What 9 forwards? I only see 3.

6.) 29 Dec 2019 03:10:55
I think Cozens, McMichael, Byfield, Lafreniere, Dellandrea, Hayton, Lavoie and other guys are probably at least a tied. I think Newhook would of been fine on the fourth line but that team is and will be ok without him in the lineup.

7.) 29 Dec 2019 05:27:17
And I see at least 9 and at least 4 more that didn't make the team I would have took before Newhook.

8.) 29 Dec 2019 12:35:46
This is VB we are talking about, take it all with a grain of salt. In fact, a grain of salt might have a more educated opinion.

9.) 29 Dec 2019 15:03:24
Almost every analyst is shocked he didn’t make the team it’s 100% corrupted. If you think Byfield and Deledera are better then Newhook you obviously have never watched him play.

10.) 29 Dec 2019 19:07:05
In all reality, Canada could ice 2 maybe even 3 competitive teams in this tournament. trying to find the right mix, chemistry is maybe what left Newhook off. I'm sure there are a lot of guys who could be on the team that aren't there, and after yesterday's loss to the Russians, it especially if Canada has another poor showing in the end results, there will be a lot of 2nd guessing who shoulda been there.
I'm not disagreeing with ya VB. or agreeing. Canada tries to ice the best team every year, sometimes they don't always get it right. sometimes they do. I don't believe it has anything to do with what league they are in. the one thing against the College guys, is maybe they aren't as familiar to the coaching staff and scouts? But, like I said, I feel Canada wants to ice the best team. regardless of league.

11.) 29 Dec 2019 19:37:06
Well I dissagree with you very strongly I don’t recall a time where the Canadians took a NCAA player. And it’s also not the 1st time Newhook got screwed over as I said.

12.) 29 Dec 2019 20:28:07
Tyson Jost. Jonathan Toews. Just this ones off top of my head. , even this year there is a kid playing there., the Sens pick, with the 2 last names.?

13.) 29 Dec 2019 21:04:40
Also Cale Makar played NCAA . wasnt he on the team recently, think Dante Fabbro as well not to sure . but VB there has been guys in the last that have been on team Canada. I'm sure Paul Kariya was on it years ago and he went the College route as well.

14.) 30 Dec 2019 16:23:10
Educational conversation for VB =)

15.) 31 Dec 2019 14:57:31
Yah the Canadians had much more depth at forward so I guess the felt they couldn’t afford to cut him this year and also I had no idea Towes played NCAA. With that being said Newhook didn’t deserve to be cut and EVERY analyst agrees. He should be a top 6 player in this tournament. They can’t cut him next year he’ll be way to good.

07 Dec 2019 15:47:12
I feel like when Mortiz Schinider was taken 6th overall by Detroit last season we were all suprised but it looks like he's going to be solid top 3 2 way dman. I see him as potentially being a stud. Also Connor McMichael is looking like he's going to be a star.

1.) 07 Dec 2019 21:39:15
I wasn't as surprised as some he was in my top 10.

2.) 07 Dec 2019 21:45:57
The 6th overall that year was Moritz Seider not this Mortiz guy your talking about.

3.) 08 Dec 2019 13:23:59
Atta boy DetroitMantha.

04 Dec 2019 21:24:20
Bob is about to enter a tight race with Lucic for worst contract In the NHL and is gaining lots of momentum. ( Sergei Bobrovski ) how can such a talented player go to a bad team and preform that horribly. Ridiculous.

05 Nov 2019 23:36:26
Do you guys think Taylor Hall will be moved at the deadline? With the injuries and Assets Colorado has he'd be a great fit imo. Hall- Kadri would form a great 2nd line. Maybe something around Byram for an Extended Hall? Adds from both sides.

1.) 06 Nov 2019 06:57:31
Not a bad idea, COL should also have enough cap space to fit Hall in.

2.) 06 Nov 2019 10:22:24
Yeah they’ve been winning without Rantanen. So adding them both back can absolutely make them cup contenders I’m just curious on how their goaltending preforms in Playoffs. With the way Maker has jumped to the NHL you’d think they’d consider moving Byram ( for the right deal ) . I think an extended hall is the right deal.

3.) 06 Nov 2019 15:36:27
What do you think Hall with be offered by teams and what do you think he signs for?

4.) 06 Nov 2019 20:06:33
I think he’s worth something similar to what Vegas gave for Stone and if he reaches FA I think Paniran is a comparable.

5.) 06 Nov 2019 21:21:37
I wouldn’t trade Byram for hall personally, I think there are other options out there that could get the avs more scoring without giving up a prospect as promising as Byram. I think hallmis gonn want a ton of money come seasons end and avs May have the cap now but in up coming years they’ll have McKinnon and Makar and kadri to resign in the next couple years. If Colorado can keep this young core in tact they’ll be perennial cup contenders,

6.) 07 Nov 2019 00:23:53
McKinnon still has 4 years and Makar a few. They can go after a big name still and go for a cup now. Worry about that later.

7.) 07 Nov 2019 10:03:00
Agree with yup 4 years is a long time the Cap will increase by that time.

8.) 07 Nov 2019 22:12:33
I wouldn't trade one of the best defensive prospect for a almost 30 year old forward.

9.) 08 Nov 2019 01:50:43
Yeah eh, thought he just had a couple more years (McKinnon) . Anyways I personally still wouldn’t trade Byram for hall. I like the avs, like the core they have but I Personally don’t like hall, never have, think they should go after a guy like Jamie Benn. Benn May come cheaper and gives them grit scoring leadership and will have a cheaper contract.

10.) 08 Nov 2019 11:03:10
Benn has been playing like a 3rd liner this season. With his salary I don’t think he is an attractive pick up.

11.) 10 Nov 2019 19:30:54
Byram for Hall would be pretty great for both teams. Colorado would be going for it for the next 4/ 5 years. And that’s a pretty solid window. If they win a cup everyone forgets about Byram. Even tho I think Hall is overrated and I like Byram, bold move by Colorado but it’s a great fit. Hall as a second line support scorer would be pretty unreal. He’s also the perfect for to come back to a Edm for that reason - 2LW.

10 Oct 2019 03:11:30
Is it just me or has Cody Ceci been looking very solid this season I think a change of scenery is exactly what he needed he's been very good with Rielly on the top pairing. Big upgrade on Zaitsev so far.

1.) 10 Oct 2019 20:43:44
Ceci has looked really good

2.) 10 Oct 2019 22:19:47
Really? My friend whose a leafs fan was just messaging me complaining about how awful he is this morning lol.

3.) 11 Oct 2019 19:37:24
No he has looked very solid Tampa game was an off night for the whole dcore tho.

4.) 12 Oct 2019 04:23:32
This was before the Tampa game. He said he looked alright the first game then has looked real bad. Disagree if you want I’m just relaying his thoughts from watching the games lol. Tampa game was a trap for Leafs Tampa coming off an embarrassing loss, getting called out by Stammer, Point coming back, and playing who most say is the biggest challenger in the division if they couldn’t show up for that game they should just call the season and go home.

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14 Jan 2020 21:25:24
Most teams wouldn’t take price and that contract for free.

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09 Jan 2020 19:10:08
Steen, Paryanko, Thomas and 1st for McDavid.

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06 Jan 2020 22:11:03
Manson has been playing like the worst dman in the NHL this season with that being said I’d swap Ceci for him and hope he finds his old form.

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06 Jan 2020 22:09:55
Have you ever seen Kempe play? I’m guessing not because he’d help out the Habs. LA has no reason to move Kempe nor does Montreal have reason to move Brook.

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06 Jan 2020 14:39:01
The leafs don’t have a 1st in 2020 @bf32.

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