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16 Mar 2025 21:21:38
Buffalo- Bowen Byram, Jack Quinn, 2nd 2025 and 2nd 2026

Islanders- Noah Dobson

It sounds like there is a good chance Dobson is moved and Buffalo has the best prospect pool in league so they can afford to get it done. Byram takes over top PP and Quinn complements Horvat and Barzal on top line and PP aswell

Dahlin-Dobson becomes top PP in NHL not to mention Dobson is a proven winner with a WJC and 2 memorial cups under his belt.

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1.) 17 Mar 2025 00:04:38
That's an aggressive offer that Buffalo would be offering. Interesting idea for sure.


2.) 17 Mar 2025 09:40:32
thats alot for Dobson.


3.) 20 Mar 2025 20:31:47
Definitely could be good trade partners. Peterka possibly an option in there too?


4.) 21 Mar 2025 21:27:17
I have not heard anything regarding Peterka being available but for Dobson I’m sure he would be.


 

 

13 Nov 2024 22:18:46
"Buffalo Sabres are looking to make a BIG trade"- Elliot Friedman

Buffalo- Jack Quinn

Anaheim- Trevor Zegras

Both players have struggled this year. Zegras has shown more than Quinn but has also had a brutal year last year. Quinn's goal scoring would fit on Leo Carlson's line

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1.) 14 Nov 2024 16:25:08
Could see it happening. Zegras is starting to give me early years Ho-Sang vibes. All the skill in the world, but massive egos and can't get things going.


2.) 15 Nov 2024 17:45:51
MG - that's an excellent comparison to Ho-Sang. Some guys have all the tools but lack the grey matter or the heart. I just don't believe in Zegras until I see something from him.


 

 

24 Jun 2024 19:58:56
The big rumour out here now is a deal around

Carolina: Necas

Nashville: Saros

For those who play fantasy this will massively increase both players value. Necas will get prime time offensive minutes beside Forsburg-O'Rielly and obviously Saros on a powerhouse Carolina team will be terrifying.

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1.) 25 Jun 2024 03:18:14
Interesting swap. What's Andersen's status on Carolina? And Kochetkov for that matter too? Don't see Saros as a need for the Hurricanes unless they are getting rid of one of those guys. Maybe one of them going with Necas and another piece going with Saros?


2.) 25 Jun 2024 20:08:31
I’d assume Anderson will head to Nashville.


 

 

13 Jun 2024 20:25:37
From Eliot Friedman - The Vegas golden knights are still heavily interested in Mitch Marner they are offering Shea Theodore and Logan Thompson as a package.

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1.) 13 Jun 2024 21:46:52
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Not enough Marner is a Top 5 RWinger and an elite player.


2.) 14 Jun 2024 00:56:44
Seen something like this as well. Leafs should take it if this was offered.


3.) 14 Jun 2024 01:32:10
Seen him ranked #10 actually.


4.) 15 Jun 2024 04:16:47
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Top Scoring RWingers last season.

1.Kucherov
2.Pastrnak
3.Rantanen
4.WNylander
5.Marner

Don't believe me look it up yourself, Marner is a Top 5 and he missed games with that high ankle sprain, if not he might have been even higher than 5th on the list.


5.) 15 Jun 2024 05:11:52
I consider M. Tkachuk and Stone to be better all around RWingers.


6.) 15 Jun 2024 15:06:19
It is a hockey writers article that had him at 10th. And points are not the end all of evaluation of a player.


7.) 15 Jun 2024 19:14:43
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Marner plays both PP and PK.
How many of those top players do both?


8.) 17 Jun 2024 12:30:27
He might be top 5 in the season. what is in the playoffs? Toronto will have to pay to gain cap space. unless they can retain.

Secondly how is Vegas going to resign this guy.?


 

 

28 May 2024 21:38:41
Realistic Mitch Marner proposal

Chicago: Mitch Marner (resigned)

Toronto: one of Moore/Nazar/Richel/Rinzel, Alex Vlasic and Torontos 2025 1st (acquired in McCabe deal)

Chicago is rumoured to be interested in Marner along with Vegas/Nashville and another team mentioned by Kyprios

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1.) 28 May 2024 22:22:58
To steep for Marner not worth that much future for a soft fringe player.


2.) 29 May 2024 00:02:02
Not realistic at all imo.
Marner is an Elite Top 5 RWinger in The NHL.


3.) 29 May 2024 01:01:49
So why if you are Chicago would you give up the youth for him, Still rebuilding. If they really want him wait a year and just pitch as a ufa. Remember the leafs are gonna take a hit to trade him as teams always have.


4.) 29 May 2024 13:08:19
Him signed at a reasonable cap hit holds value, a lot of it. All depends on what the cap hit is. If he is dealt it will be a sign and trade. No team is gonna give up a thing without knowing he's gonna be signed past this season.


5.) 29 May 2024 16:50:12
@Nashan- There is a very good chance he doesn’t want to hit the market. He hasn’t performed under pressure and there is a good chance he doesn’t want to play a full season knowing if he’s injured or underperforming it will lower what teams will offer. Signing in the offseason will assure security.

Why would a rebuilding team want Mitch Marner? Well that’s a question for Darren Dreiger who reported their interest. Marner being a an elite playmaker with the most puck strips (take aways) in the NHL beside an elite goal scorer in Bedard is very attractive.

Say what you will about his playoff performances where he is still a PPG player in his career 90+ point player will still command a big return. Not to the extent as leafs fans anticipate, they will be disappointed but this is in line and less then what Erik Karlsson returned when he was moved to San Jose

This package is actually similar to what Matt Duchene brought back when he was moved to Ottawa. Mitch Marner is a lot better then Duchene.


 

 

 

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05 Apr 2025 17:00:42
What is your guys best team of all time you can assemble with line chemistry as a factor (you don't want 3 skill guys on same line)?

Here is mine-

Bossy-Gretzky-Howe
McDavid-Crosby-Lemuix
Lafleur-Béliveau-M.Richard
Bure-Lindros-Messier

Ex: Jagar-Esposito

Bourque -Orr
Lindstrom-Makar
Stevens-Coffee
Ex- Potvin-Robertson

Hasek-Tretchiak-Roy

Now I haven't seen 90% of these players play ever since I'm in my early 20s but imo I think Lindros is most controversial pick here. My argument is he is a unicorn as far as a power forward goes and having him in his prime (pre Scott Stevens) on a line with Bure would be terrifying combination of dynamic offence (Bure) and space generation/physicality (Lindros/Messier)

Honorable mentions- Sakic/Yzerman/Ovechkin/Forsburg/Bossy/Bobby Hull

Brodeur/Dryden

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1.) 13 Apr 2025 14:49:29
Pretty hard to beat that team.
I might put Ovi over Esposito as and extra. Also on D, Makar might not be there just yet, a nasty D like Pronger( i see you have Steven's as well) would be good .
You 100% nailed it on goalies.


2.) 15 Apr 2025 11:06:02
I think on 2nd thought Bobby Hull in and Bure out. Fair point on Ovy. Lots of good forwards cut. I just think Makar is the most Dynamic Dman of the 21st century and needs the legend status recognition. He will be a hall of famer.

The goalies were tough especially with Roy at 3 but for me Dryden didn’t play long enough and I just don’t think prime Brodeur was as good as Roy.


3.) 15 Apr 2025 21:00:50
There's no doubt about Makar being a future Hall of Famer.
Bobby Hull for Bure.... cant go wrong with either.
Beem so many greats over the years.


 

 

25 Mar 2024 01:58:00
I don't think the pens can compete with their old core the currently have. If these players were willing to waive what could the Pens get for-

Crosby (Colorado is probably the only other team he'd go to)
Malkin
Rust
Letang
Karlsson

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1.) 26 Mar 2024 16:05:12
Crosby may waive for the Habs as well. If he's content with bot winning a cup and more so wants to closer to family and play for his childhood team.

Crosby likely returns a top 6/ 9 player, mid/ high end prospect, a 1st and likely a conditional 1st as well.

Malkin likely gets a mid level prospect and a 1st or 2nd. More likely the 2nd though

Rust likely brings back a mid level prospect, a 1st, and a 3rd. He's still only 31. Can play center and the wing and makes just over $5mill. Probably brings in maybe another prospect or pick if money is retained.

Letang is a tough one cause when he's healthy he's a very solid dman and still shows he can give you top pairing minutes and production. But his health is a big concern. I'd say it's likely a mid level prospect and a 2nd or 3rd for him. Maybe a 1st if money is retained or if a team really wants him.

Karlsson is likely a similar return as Letang. That cap hit is just nuts.


2.) 27 Mar 2024 10:32:27
I think you’re off on Malkin. He’s still a 1C and has that cup pedigree I think he nets a good return if he gives a list of teams. If he is picky then that return makes sense.


3.) 27 Mar 2024 11:33:15
He's just slowed down a tonne. Still has a tonne of skill and gets hot for streaks. Just inconsistent, which is to be expected when you're at his age. Definitely could still be a 1C, but not many teams in need of one, especially contending ones.


4.) 30 Mar 2024 23:06:07
Any contender would take Malkin then shuffle around there team to make the cap work imo.


5.) 31 Mar 2024 02:55:35
For sure no doubt in my mind they would. I was more leading to the likely hood of him being a 1C on a contending team would be low. More likely you see him as the 2C or moved to the wing on a contending team. Still a great player; father time definitely showing his signs on him though and his movement/ trade clause would play a big factor into what his return would ultimately be.


 

 

12 Mar 2024 19:11:35
Idk who's more delusional Pinball posting the awful Dumba to leafs trades or Chickenfoot saying Arizona declines.

Dumba and a 7th for a 2025 5th was what he went for incase someone missed it which I wouldn't blame them because he's irrelevant.

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1.) 13 Apr 2024 14:20:20
Is this not the place to make trade proposals and receive feedback? Quit your whining!


 

 

06 Mar 2024 23:09:04
Deadline predictions-

Lindholm- Boston

Debrusk- Pittsburgh

Guzentzel- Vancouver/Carolina

Zucker- Vancouver/Carolina

DeAngelo and Edmonston- Toronto (Hopefully Ryan Johanson)

Markstrom- NJ (Vancek in deal)

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1.) 08 Mar 2024 01:35:01
I think Toffoli heads to Vancouver now.


 

 

22 Nov 2023 19:30:30
What happened to Matt Dumba? Only 30 and went from a top 4 guy to the absolute worst player in the NHL? I don't even think he'd be good the AHL at this point.

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1.) 24 Nov 2023 23:02:19
Is he really that bad? I honestly haven't seen alot of him. I do remember not so long ago, he was a really good 2 way Dman, capable of highlight reel body checks here and there. How has his game regressed? He can't be worse than Klingberg?


2.) 25 Nov 2023 21:46:55
Klingberg can QB a PP and put up the odd 5 on 5 point at times. Dumba skates like he has cinder blocks on his feet is awful in his own end and stoped producing offence.


 

 

 

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13 Jun 2025 00:31:30
I literally said goalie or leading offensive player. Obviously that goes for Dman aswell if a guy like Makar puts up 25+ points he’s going to win.

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12 Jun 2025 15:01:20
Usually the guy who wins conn Smyth is the guy who led teams in points.

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11 Jun 2025 22:20:08
I’d love to see this posted on HF boards where it’ll be exposed to a larger demographic. Who’s better in this situation is redundant. Kyle Connor has 1 year left and would return what Marchand got as a rental with a full NMC (I think? )

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11 Jun 2025 22:17:55
From a Buffalo POV they have a ton of NHL ready prospects sitting in AHL with no room to play (Ostlund, Rosen, Kulich* and Helnius) are 1st round picks that aren’t full time players yet. If anything Buffalo needs more Ryan McLeods. Outside of that Savoie was moved for McLeod last year who in my opinion is a slightly better prospect (I like Lamburt aswell) .

If I were the jets coming off of the season where they were a top team I’m taking McLeod but I’m not trading any proven talent if I’m Buffalo unless I’m getting a upgrade as they have a fully stocked prospect pool.

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11 Jun 2025 22:10:53
If the leafs won the cup hypothetically Stolarz or Nylander would have been the Conn Smyth winner and I don’t think that’s debatable (if the other teams top player didn’t win) . Defensive players don’t win the con Smyth. Atleast I don’t remember one that did.

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15 Apr 2025 11:06:02
I think on 2nd thought Bobby Hull in and Bure out. Fair point on Ovy. Lots of good forwards cut. I just think Makar is the most Dynamic Dman of the 21st century and needs the legend status recognition. He will be a hall of famer.

The goalies were tough especially with Roy at 3 but for me Dryden didn’t play long enough and I just don’t think prime Brodeur was as good as Roy.

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31 Dec 2024 01:17:37
Is that your order? Hintz and Joel EK are low and Prov way to high.

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06 Nov 2024 13:50:30
He plays with so much heart tho he is a really solid player I’d take him on the leafs.

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26 Jun 2024 20:54:35
Korpisalo at 3mil is a steal. He is a very over qualified backup to Swayman. Absolutely phenomenal asset managemet by Boston imo. Swayman is the number 1 there and Ullmark was not needed.

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07 Jun 2024 03:41:21
I think the Marcel Dionne award is the obvious choice for western conference MVP. Absolutely elevated his game in playoffs.

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