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29 Nov 2024 18:33:20
Detroit Red Wings
- Jonathan Berggren ($825k pending RFA)
- 2025 3rd round pick (Rangers 3rd rd pick acquired from Utah HC)
New York Rangers
- Kappo Kakko ($2.4m pending RFA)
A change of scenery for Kakko could bring out the potential he has as a former 2nd overall pick. With the Rangers forward depth Kakko hasn't gotten much opportunities to play top 6 and he doesn't seem to fit the rosters build.
Berggren brings depth scoring and positional flexibility at center/RW. A chance to play with a playoff contender like the Rangers will benefit his development, and the difference in salary will benefit the Rangers in the off season when they're retooling their roster.
1.) 01 Dec 2024 12:26:45
I would remove the pick Detroit sends and add a pick to Rangers side for taking on the bigger salary on a player like Kakko.
26 Nov 2024 04:03:44
Columbus Blue Jackets
- David Jiricek
Detroit Red Wings
- Michael Rasmussen
- Shai Buium
- 2024 2nd round pick
17 Oct 2024 13:44:26
Red Wings:
- Justin Holl ($3.4m aav until 2026)
Maple Leafs:
- Timothy Liljegren ($3m aav until 2026)
I don't even know why I did this lol. I just thought if Berube doesn't seen any potential in Liljegren after one week, maybe Holl is the type of player he's looking for?
And if the Leafs can't afford to waive him for nothing, the Red Wings definitely can. Liljegren either rebounds in Detroit or he gets sent to Grand Rapids, worst case scenario he gets some time to showcase his value until Petry returns from injury.
01 Aug 2024 22:26:30
Toronto:
Mitchell Marner (50% retained)
San Jose:
Givani Smith (AHL)
Scott Sabourin (AHL)
Andrew Poturalski (AHL)
2025 1st round pick (top 10 protected)
Klim Kostin
Nico Sturm
If Laine and Jenner with 50% retention is worth Kampf+Jarnkrok+ 3 AHLers and a 1st rounder, Marner should be worth the same sized package right Pinball?
Thoughts?
1.) 02 Aug 2024 20:43:24
Why engage. Pinballs offer was bad. we all know it. If No one responds he is less likely to post. And yes this is terrible for Toronto.
2.) 02 Aug 2024 20:45:57
Only difference being the 2 leafs nhl players pinball suggests are better than the players you put in for SJ, and the 3 all players are better as well.
Yours is worse than the bad deal pinball suggests.
3.) 03 Aug 2024 11:51:52
My trade is very clearly sarcastic since Marner is 99% staying put this season.
But even on the 1% chance he was traded, I think a Marner trade would look a lot more like a futures package for the Leafs instead of something ridiculous like, oh I don't know, Laine and Kent Johnson and a 2nd round pick with no retention on Laine.
02 Jul 2024 17:45:18
New York Rangers
- Jacob Trouba ($8m until 2026)
Detroit Red Wings
- Jeff Petry ($2.34m until 2025)
- Olli Maata ($3m until 2025)*
- 2025 1st round pick
- Jonathan Berggren (RFA)
*Detroit retains 25% of Maata's salary ($750k)
"Reports over draft weekend indicated the Detroit Red Wings are interested in acquiring Trouba, a Michigan native." - The Score, June 30, 2024
Honestly I don't know how this trade would play out I'm just looking at what Detroit might be willing to move while also realizing Trouba isn't the $8m defenseman he's paid to be anymore.
Petry would need to have NYR off of his 15 team no trade list, and he can't have any more salary retained as both Pittsburgh and Montreal are retaining to create the $2.34 cap hit he currently has.
Maata is he odd man out on the left side with Chiarot, Gustafson and either Edvinsson/Lagesson taking the last spot.
With their prospect pipeline already stockpiled, this might be the year Yzerman is willing to part with a 1st round pick. If prospects are what Drury would want, Mazur and Soderblom might be available but any 1st rounders drafted in the last 3 drafts are not on the trade block.
Drury just made $12.8 million in cap space with Goodrow being waived, but Schneider and Lindgren need new contracts and Miller, Lafreniere and Shesterkin are all eligible to sign extensions now.
I'm thinking 2 bottom pair defensemen, a 23 year old RFA forward and a 1st round pick might not be a quality return for their captain, but the Rangers might value the immediate roster help + no retention on Trouba's contract to be worth it.
This is a short term solution to free up more cap space for New York to keep their core players beyond 2025, and a long term solution for Detroit to bring in Trouba as a top 4 defenseman, a Michigan native, and potentially extend him after this contract ends.
1.) 02 Jul 2024 18:16:30
Seen a report that Shesterkin is wanting a huge raise. Like over $11mill. Miller and Laf both likely in the $6-$7mill range now for an extension. Gonna be an interesting situation to navigate for NYR management.
2.) 02 Jul 2024 23:05:18
Interesting scenario DRW. It would be a complicated one to pull off. Petry is also a Michigan boy.
I think a more likely scenario is a clean trade of Trouba to a mutually acceptable destination via another to ensure two teams could retain enough to not make a single team take on that gaudy cap hit.
(I. e. CHI by way of MTL, or some other combo of cities, with sweeteners for each. The ultimate destination will have to be a US city since his dad can’t legally travel outside of the U. S. to watch him play, which is why he left WPG to begin with. )
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25 Jun 2024 00:35:50
Sweeney gonna Sween,
Ullmark to Ottawa for Korpisalo, Kastelic and 2024 1st round pick (25th overall, Bostons pick)
Senators retaining 25% of Korpisalos contract and Bruins are saving $1.165m in team salary.
Thoughts?
I can't believe Ottawa picked up a Vezina winning goalie for such a small package while getting rid of Korpisalos contact AND they managed to keep their 7th overall pick and Chychrun.
Sweeney got goofed
1.) 25 Jun 2024 03:57:05
Empty prospect cupboard and not wanting to take on any salary played a big part I feel. Korpisalo likely gets flipped for another pick. The need for a goalie marker wasn't the greatest and when you add that he had a NTC this very well could've been the best he could do.
Interested to see if Ullmark stays at his Vezina level or if he returns to his Buffalo Sabres form.
2.) 26 Jun 2024 20:54:35
Korpisalo at 3mil is a steal. He is a very over qualified backup to Swayman. Absolutely phenomenal asset managemet by Boston imo. Swayman is the number 1 there and Ullmark was not needed.
3.) 30 Jun 2024 00:59:35
It's not going to matter who's in the net if there isn't major improvements to the team's defensive structure.
27 Sep 2019 17:43:13
Laine signed 2 year bridge deal at 6.75m aav.
Hopefully this will put to rest the speculation of a trade, and brings some closure to what he's actually worth.
1.) 27 Sep 2019 18:07:47
$6M salary first year. $7.5M the final year. This deal would have been a lot better for more years that’s for sure.
Just shows how good a deal Point signed.
Read that Laine and Rantanen were on the same plane together heading back to North America today. Maybe He’s close to a deal too.
What’s he and Connor worth compared to this Laine deal?
2.) 27 Sep 2019 18:35:00
I’m still so shocked SJ have Timo $10M salary on his 4th and final year of the deal.
3.) 27 Sep 2019 20:02:05
Now does Connor get paid more than Laine? Is he worth more? Will Connor get a longer term deal compared to Laine?
The new questions now that his signing is finally done.
4.) 27 Sep 2019 20:42:38
Hopefully Laine will play with a chip on his shoulder after reading about him wanting out of Winnipeg and how he's a lazy, uninterested, one dimensional, selfish player. Glad he's back with the Jets.
5.) 28 Sep 2019 10:51:55
He is pretty 1 dimensional and I’m saying this as a huge fan of his.
6.) 28 Sep 2019 16:37:58
Who here thinks Timo Mier getting $10M in his 4th and final year of his contract, meaning his next contract has to start at $10M, Who disagrees with me and thinks that’s a great contract right now. Speak up. Lol. Curious to know who thinks that’s a good contract.
7.) 28 Sep 2019 20:58:15
Yupp, you've been drinking again. Mier got 6 mil a year over 4 years. Got 30 goals last year. Getting 10 mil this year must mean he got 14 mil the first 3 years right? 4 million is pretty cheap for a 30 goal guy.
8.) 29 Sep 2019 00:51:49
The Mier deal is fine. that’s approximately what he’s worth. Strong, goal scoring power forward. Perfect for the Sharks. I’d give him the same deal.
9.) 29 Sep 2019 18:04:02
What? Timo deal is 4 years x $6M AAV. But salty for the fourth and final year is $10M. Meaning his next deal will have to be qualified at $10M.
Tkuchuck and Points final year salary is $9M. They will have to be qualified at $9M now.
Lianes deal is like $6.75M AAV but salary is $6M first year and $7.5M next year. So his next deal has to be at least $7.5M.
These bridge deals can be alright, but the biggest thing to look at is the final years salary, not AAV. This is only an issue of the player is still a RFA when bridge deal is up.
I’m surprised I have to teach some of you this and you don’t understand what I’m saying.
21 Sep 2019 14:26:11
Interesting opinion I read online today, just wanted to share for context because we throw around a lot of Laine trades these days.
31 Thoughts Rumor Roundup
Elliotte Friedman of Sportsnet: It is believed that Dustin Byfuglien's ankle hasn't healed as much as they had hoped. The Winnipeg Jets would have traded Jacob Trouba anyways, but they would have planned differently with regards to Byfuglien. There will be trade rumors involving Justin Faulk and Rasmus Ristolainen.
The Jets were interested in Ben Hutton but had to wait and the Los Angeles Kings were ready to sign him.
Trading Patrik Laine for a defenseman would be a hard trade for the Jets to win. Laine will be looking for more than $6 million on any two-three year deal.
1.) 21 Sep 2019 15:50:54
Likely if Byfuglien retires, the Jets will just stand pat and play the young guys to get more experience for them. Then next summer they'll have a better idea of what kind of defenseman they need to add and sign one from the bumper UFA crop next summer. The Jets were the 2nd or 3rd youngest team last year, so there is no need to throw away young talent on aging vets that won't make much difference to our playoff chances.
Faulk and Risto may be options for this year, but only if they come cheap. If the Jets trade for one of them, it won't be for Ehlers, Laine or Connor. Unless it was part of a much larger deal.
13 Jan 2025 19:12:36
Teams on a 7 game win streak dont trade their captain. Especially for a player rumored to have beef with another prominent player on their team.
Only one that wins in this trade is Petterson who finally gets to escape the media circus in Vancouver.
02 Jan 2025 17:35:59
Im comparing your evaluation of Kampf based on 2 trade proposals you made 2 weeks apart.
2 weeks ago you argued that Kampf (with only 3 assists) was worth more than Hathaway (depth winger) because centers are worth more than wingers.
Today you think that Kampf (with 2 goals and 4 assists) is only worth Kane (depth winger) when he's packaged with Robertson (depth winger) and a late 1st round pick.
So which one are you going to admit you're wrong about, Kampfs trade value today or Kampfs trade value 2 weeks ago?
Either way Kampf isn't waiving his clause to be traded from a team at the top of the division to a team near the bottom of the division.
Hopefully one day you'll have some respect for the depth players on your favorite team and stop trying to desperately trade them for everything and nothing at the same time.
02 Jan 2025 17:06:21
While I'd absolutely love to see Detroit rid themselves of the Compher and Gustafson contracts, I don't believe this trade is doable.
A trade package for either Cozens or Byram is probably starting with Kasper or Danielson going to the Sabres.
02 Jan 2025 14:57:52
2 weeks ago Kampf was worth more than Hathaway because hes a center even though he only had 3 assists at that time.
Now he has 2 goals and an assist for 6 points, and he's worth less than he was worth 2 weeks ago. He had to be packaged with Robertson and a 1st round pick in hopes of getting a winger at 50% off.
Even though you swore up and down 2 weeks ago that centers have more value than wingers.
Just more proof that you belong on the spectrum Pinball.
02 Jan 2025 00:34:09
We've been over this already. The difference between now and 2022 is that back in 2022 Kane would only allow a trade to the Rangers which limited that the return was for Chicago.
Even in 2025 Kane is worth more than the two Leafs forwards you have the least respect for and a late 2026 1st round pick, especially at 50% off.
If you know the Red Wings are looking for possible assets by trading Kane, try including some possible assets.