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18 Oct 2021 12:36:21
Devils Trade
Zacha
Leafs Trade
Kerfoot
Dermott
Thoughts ?
1.) 18 Oct 2021 12:59:05
I say devils take that honestly.
2.) 18 Oct 2021 16:12:46
Devils say no.
Zacha is bigger, younger, gets paid less (for this year anyhow) and scored more points than Kerfoot did in each of the last 2 years.
3.) 18 Oct 2021 22:12:47
MoxNix must be back in 1943 welcome to the new world where players like Yamamoto, Caufield, Diebrencat etc are key players. Size means nothing. Sure bigger players have the potential to hit more but Zacha isn’t necessarily a physical player. I’ve played hockey all my life which clearly you haven’t. I’ll tell you 1st hand small players can knock a bigger player down easy. In bantam I remember when Jaxon Bellamy ( QMJHL ) being like 6.4 went in on a rush on dumped the puck in the corner and Lucas Cormier absolutely lit him up while he had posetion of the puck. This kid was maybe 5.9 at the time if that. That kid was solid. No one could knock him off of his feet.
4.) 18 Oct 2021 23:38:42
NHL and minor hockey are obviously not the same. While it’s definitely not the first thing to look at, size is still something teams want.
5.) 19 Oct 2021 00:47:40
@Nylander Obviously you never watched Theoron Fleury play.
You need stop acting like you know it all and talking to down to everyone who disagrees with you. You're an ass.
Size still matters and it isn't just about how much or how hard they hit. IN GENERAL bigger players are harder to push around and can take more punishment than smaller players.
6.) 19 Oct 2021 00:56:36
Just in case someone thinks my saying @Nylander is an ass was going to far.
Nylander is the guy who thinks it's ok to compare others on here to Richard Ramirez a serial killer, serial rapist, kidnapper, child abuser and burglar.
7.) 19 Oct 2021 03:29:06
I compared your narcissism to his that’s all. Like Richard you attach your self to outlandish ideology’s similar to him. For an example saying Marner is worse then Mathew Tkachuk is crazier then anything Richard believed but similar to him you’ll fight for your opinion to your last breath even though logic says otherwise.
8.) 19 Oct 2021 18:15:23
Just stop projecting your own issues onto others. Nobody wants to hear your crazy dimestore psychology.
9.) 19 Oct 2021 18:54:14
Boys Boys Boys if you are all guys, this is just a fun post I posted either you agree or disagree, no need to attack each other.
14 Oct 2021 15:27:53
Florida Trades
Gudas
Toronto Trades
Dermott
Holl
Florida gets better depth on Defense.
Toronto gets a tough Defenceman which they need.
Thoughts ?
1.) 14 Oct 2021 16:14:28
Florida wouldn't do this trade as they like having a physical, second pairing d-man. Dermott and Hol have a $3.5 mil cap hit while Gudas has a $2.5 which in this NHL makes a big difference.
2.) 14 Oct 2021 22:34:01
I think I'd rather have Holl over Gudas to be honest.
3.) 15 Oct 2021 17:28:20
We don’t like honesty around here Sosa, lol. You’re supposed to bash every player that’s not on your team and defend your own players even if they’re garbage.
4.) 15 Oct 2021 17:35:21
Holl>Gudas for the price. No from Toronto. Both are about the same, Gudas more physical, Holl more mobile. Holl’s slightly cheaper so I wouldn’t want to give up Dermott AND Holl for a single dman. Even of its to get Lily playing time, i’d rather just ship Dermott for a mid round pick from soneone in need of dmen (Vancouver? ) to recoup assets.
5.) 15 Oct 2021 19:07:44
Tough call. It's true Toronto does need to get tougher but I don't think I'd trade Holl for Gudas, not even straight up.
Holl isn't great but he isn't bad either. He might not be as tough as Gudas but he isn't soft (unlike certain other Leafs defensemen) . Holl has good size plays D first and is willing to hit or take a hit.
05 Oct 2021 15:33:39
Devils Trade
Severson
4th Round Pick 2022*
Leafs Trade
Rielly
Holl
Engvall
*NJ have there own plus both Edmonton and Columbus's 4th Round Picks in The 2022 Draft, The Devils get to choose which 4th Rounder Toronto gets when The 2021/22 Season is over.
I yesterday posted a similar type trade proposal and have tweeked it some to make it more of a believable proposal.
I do believe this proposal is a very fair trade and what each Team would be looking at before the puck drops to start the new NHL Season.
Thoughts ?
1.) 05 Oct 2021 16:38:15
I don't see anything in it for Jersey. They're not in a position to be trading players with term for rentals. Especially when they already have a better all offense, no defense defenseman signed long term. Rielly wouldn't waive anyways.
2.) 05 Oct 2021 17:50:51
memarcusjoe
Severson will be a UFA after next season just like Justin Holl, so that's false information as Severson isn't signed long term.
Engvall is a RFA after this season and of course Rielly a UFA after this season.
Curious why this full season of having Rielly on NJ doesn't seem to count for anything?
Playing there and getting to know the team and players would be a selling tool to resign him, plus PK will be off the books of 9m, that's plenty to resign Rielly for The Devils.
3.) 05 Oct 2021 21:08:33
Well Pinball, Holl isn't really the issue. The issue is that Severson is under contract for two more seasons while Rielly is done after this one. Severson has been with the Devils for a while and is much more likely to re-sign a reasonable extension with Jersey since he knows the team and doesn't put up enough points to warrant high dollars.
Why give that up for a defenseman that will be looking for a huge raise like Rielly will be? Jersey already has a better version of Rielly signed long term at a big cap hit. All the prime minutes will go to Hamilton and Rielly's production will drop not getting all the prime O zone starts and PP1 time.
The Devils simply don't need Rielly as even with him the devils are a long shot for the playoffs this year and Rielly doesn't give them anything that they don't already have long term. So why would Jersey do it?
4.) 05 Oct 2021 21:08:54
Now we will see endless rumors to trade Rielly because we can't resign him from so many Leaf supporters. Unless its a sign and trade the Leafs won't be getting much.
5.) 06 Oct 2021 18:47:07
Ok memarcusjoe and islandjet
Let's make a similar trade with 2 other teams, does Detroit say no to this?
Detroit Trades
Larkin
4th Round Pick 2022
Florida Trades
Barkov
Gudas
Lammikko
Very similar to my proposal tell me does Detroit say no to that proposal?
6.) 06 Oct 2021 20:31:46
It's not similar at all Pinball. Both Larkin and Barkov are younger than Rielly plus both are centers and in Barkov's case at least a 1C which are much harder to find than an offensive specialist LD. Plus Barkov wouldn't waive for Detroit.
Overall, a poor attempt at a comparison. Do you really think Rielly is as valuable as Barkov?
7.) 07 Oct 2021 04:14:10
In what world is Reilly comparable to Barkov? Certainly not this one!
8.) 07 Oct 2021 13:46:42
memarcusjoe and MoxNix
No I am comparing Rielly and Severson and comparing Barkov to Larkin.
You are both trying to sell Severson as better than Rielly when he clearly isn't is my point.
In my response I didn't compare Rielly to Barkov at all if you read it properly.
9.) 07 Oct 2021 15:41:53
Pinball, where did either of us say Severson is better than Rielly? In your example though Severson is closer in value to Rielly than Larkin is to Barkov. So the point is that you are trying to pass off two totally different trades as similar somehow when they aren't.
10.) 08 Oct 2021 02:06:32
Nobody is trying to sell Severson as better than Reilly. Severson does makes less money right now, has 2 years left on his contract and won't be looking for 8+ mil on his next contract.
Severson is a cost effective 2nd pairing RD playing behind Hamilton. They aren't going to trade him away for a rental, especially not a rental they don't even need.
Reilly is UFA at the end of this year and looking for a big contract on his next one.
11.) 08 Oct 2021 12:27:42
MoxNix
Ya no team needs a Top 2 Defenceman according to what you say.
Rielly hasn't played one game this season and you call him a rental, far as I know there are 82 games to be played this season plus the playoffs and yes adding Rielly I believe makes NJ a playoff team, they are much better than you have them predicted.
I agree at the trade deadline he is a rental but not for an entire season, that's where you make no sense.
12.) 12 Oct 2021 04:05:06
LOL Leafs fans.
All those upvotes for crazy talk and downvotes for talking sense.
04 Oct 2021 13:52:31
Devils Trade
Wood
Severson
3rd Round Pick 2022
Leafs Trade
Rielly
Holl
Mikheyev
Engvall
New Jersey is looking to turn the corner this season, the signing of Hamilton says that, adding a true Top 2 Defenceman in Rielly, a very solid Defenceman in Holl and adding Mikheyev and Engvall as well makes them better with this trade off proposal.
Toronto is at that point do they look to trade a key piece in Rielly?
I believe because of Cap and Rielly and Mikheyev being UFAS after this season they do, and I like opening the door for both Sandin and Liljegren to play fulltime in The NHL as well as Dermott to play more mins as well, Wood would be a Great LWinger for Kampf and Kase as a 3rd line shutdown line.
Thoughts ?
1.) 04 Oct 2021 16:11:58
Peddling UFA Rielly, who is a second pairing d-man that will want way more than he is worth in his next contract, a 3rd liner UFA Mikheyev and 2 players who would be lucky to make the Devils will not get a return like this. Once again another one sided trade.
2.) 04 Oct 2021 18:33:40
@islandjet rentals are still capable of getting a decent return. Think Stone, Foligno, Hall, etc. Reilly is in the category of players.
3.) 04 Oct 2021 19:24:04
If I'm Toronto, I thimk i'd want to rectify the Reilly situation ASAP. to lose this guy in the off season would really hurt., and I also believe trading him at the deadline would also really hurt, as Leafs are in win now mood, and he's a huge part of that team.
So, maybe trade him now, Severson would be a decent addition, deffinetley not Reilly, but better than nothing. ( i'm not sure his contract status however, but Leafs need to make sure they replace him somewhat adequately in order to make a run., so deal with it now., and make changes during the season, if moving one of the big 4 also needs to be done. well, so be it. But don't lose this guy for nothing, like Habs did with Danault. Deal with it now.
Pinball, i'm not sure this deal works, but something along these lines aren't to bad.
4.) 04 Oct 2021 19:24:07
Islandjet
I don't understand how this is one sided at all, Justin Holl is just a step below Severson with the same term of Contract left, Rielly is still the best player in this, and Mikheyev is on there roster for sure, Engvall I will admit might be a depth player in this proposal yet it's one sided you?
Strange way of looking at it don't you think?
5.) 04 Oct 2021 19:31:04
Ah yes Justin Holl would be lucky to make the New Jersey Devils. Of course.
6.) 04 Oct 2021 19:35:22
Foligno only got a good return because Toronto's GM always overpays.
They'd overpay Reilly too except they don't have any money left and nobody else is going to trade a whole lot for a player who's probably going to ask for a lot more than he's worth next year.
7.) 04 Oct 2021 20:10:33
Toronto vs the world lmao. MoxNix reminds me a lot of Richard Ramirez in terms of being extremely high functioning but lack of social knowledge to back up conversation. ( taking a character study on him in my 3 year psychology ) .
8.) 04 Oct 2021 22:09:27
Foligno got a late first and Hall a second right? Stone came with a contract so not comparable. Even though Holl is a pretty decent D, looking at the Devils right side he probably wouldn’t make it. Lol and Reilly is realistically a 2/ 3 D but he’s a UFA and just because the Devils signed Hamilton doesn’t mean there looking to trade guys under contract for UFA’s.
On the high end the Devils would probably be looking for a Ristolainen type return for Severson and a Goodrow return for Wood.
9.) 05 Oct 2021 12:27:40
This trade would look better if subban wasn't still making a ton.
01 Oct 2021 12:37:33
Blues Trade
O'Reilly
Leafs Trade
Rielly
Kerfoot
Thoughts ?
1.) 01 Oct 2021 12:54:12
You would need to add a lot for St. Louis to even think about it. I’m talking Sandin and Amirov and a 1st.
2.) 01 Oct 2021 14:40:39
A rental and a cap dump for one of the Blues top players who is also their captain?
Not a chance!
3.) 01 Oct 2021 17:50:44
No way the Blues would do this for a rental.
I also think however that adding O'Reilly and subtracting Reilly from the roster creates a very big hole on the D. Having O'Reilly would be good for any team, however when you have Mathews and Tavares already at center, you don't need a 3rd star center.
4.) 01 Oct 2021 20:11:54
Rielly doesn’t come close to ROR. Lol. Even then, STL with Parayko/ Faulk/ Krug and TOR with Matthews/ TavRes - what sense does this make?
5.) 02 Oct 2021 23:24:35
I don’t think that’s even close. O’Rielly (a number 1 center) for a rental and 3C. -_-.
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08 Apr 2021 12:48:24
2 Trade Proposals for The Leafs.
First Trade.
Buffalo Trades
THall (50% of Contract Retained)
Toronto Trades
Barabanov
1st Round Pick 2021
Second Trade.
Detroit Trades
Bernier (50% of Contract Retained)
Toronto Trades
FAndersen
4th Round Pick 2021
The Leafs wouldn't have to trade Kerfoot or any other player on the current roster besides an injured FAndersen and replacing him with a healthy Bernier and saving 3.5m in Cap keeps Kerfoot on the Team only making them deeper with quality depth.
The Trades for UFAs have been established and this is very similar to what The Islanders and Devils did last night.
Thoughts ?
04 Apr 2021 21:33:42
Devils Trade
Palmieri (50% of Contract Retained)
Toronto Trades
Simmonds
2nd Round Pick 2021
Leafs are just under the cap limit so it works Cap Wise in this trade proposal.
Thoughts ?
1.) 05 Apr 2021 20:11:28
He’s the only guy that can fight his way out of a wet paper bag. Do you want them to get bullied in the playoffs and throw their skirts on? Or would you rather the other team know there are consequences for their actions.
2.) 06 Apr 2021 23:05:24
Agree with Toronto17. one thing Leafs have lacked the past couple of years is gritty hard nosed players. so Pinball, why would you want to trade away one of the grittier in your face types, the league has to offer? He may not score the way he once did. but he's still an important player. Leafs have enough guys to put the puck in the net. need to keep the grit. And. he still can score .
3.) 07 Apr 2021 04:52:15
If this is all Palmeri can get the devils will keep him .
11 Jul 2020 15:34:12
A Proposal that I don't see happening but if it did would either Team be even interested in doing it ?
Edmonton Traded
McDavid
Toronto Trades
Matthews
Kapanen
Dermott
Thoughts ?
1.) 11 Jul 2020 17:54:42
The Oilers would never do this trade.
2.) 11 Jul 2020 19:49:21
One team would take it and run and the other wouldn't give the deal any consideration at all. See if you can put aside your heavy bias for one minute Pinball and figure out which is which.
3.) 11 Jul 2020 22:55:38
replace kap with freddie and a couple firsts and the oil don't hang up immediately.
4.) 12 Jul 2020 01:38:50
Mackinnon at 6.3 million>>>McDavid with the flat cap.
McDavid isn’t a top 5 most valuable player in the NHL anymore imo but mathews certainly isn’t either.
5.) 14 Jul 2020 01:05:15
McDavid for Matthews, Marner, Rielly and a 1st.
6.) 14 Jul 2020 17:10:33
@EP40 I hope that’s a troll.
Pettersson, Boeser, Hughes and Horvat for McDavid.
7.) 17 Jul 2020 03:24:45
Matthews and Reilly is fair value, but the leafs would still have to add Kapanen To get it done.
18 Jul 2019 11:22:48
Leafs sign Marleau for 700k which they can as Carolina bought him out not Toronto.
Marleau slaps out Marner and makes him sign a 8yr Deal at 8.5m a year and everything is solved in Leaf Land.
Thoughts ?
1.) 18 Jul 2019 14:57:10
Someone would probably have to slap him pretty hard to get him to sign that deal.
2.) 18 Jul 2019 16:37:49
pretty sure I had read that the Leafs offered him 8 years x $10 mln already, so yah he's not signing that
He wants to sign a shorter team deal so he can hit paydirt again in 5 years or whatever.
3.) 19 Jul 2019 01:49:38
Get Ariana Grande to get him on the Igor then maybe he’ll sign it.
4.) 20 Jul 2019 19:46:59
I was in a taxi line in Vegas two days ago behind Marluea and his wife. Super nice guy, talked for 6/ 7 minutes. Shook our hands twice. I asked him if he’s going back to SJ, if they want him back or not and he kinda laughed and got an unsure type answer. I asked if Mitchy boy is going to sign soon, if they are watching some of the other RFAs or not and he says he thinks everyone is waiting for Mitch.
Super nice guy, I wish I had of asked if Mathews wanted a 5 year deal to be UFA sooner to go back home to AZ sooner or not. Wish I got his reaction to that. Haha. Super nice guy, he and his wife.
5.) 20 Jul 2019 19:58:58
His wife is a super nice guy? lol.
6.) 20 Jul 2019 20:04:40
I can’t believe you shook his hand, twice. Cool story bro, lol. How’s Lesnar doing?
09 Aug 2018 20:14:33
Calgary Trades
Lazar
Toronto Trades
Leivo
More of a depth trade proposal but Leivo will play in Calgary and Lazar gives the Centre/RWing depth option for the Leafs 4th Line.
Thoughts ?
1.) 10 Aug 2018 02:33:40
Lazar as the 4th c wouldn’t be bad.
2.) 10 Aug 2018 19:14:49
I’d rather see them trade Leivo where he can get a good opportunity, because he’s been nothing but a loyal guy and a true professional when it couldn’t have been easy. But I’d rather just get a pick, like a 3rd or 4th than another guy to put in the same position.
I figure in the next few years, leafs will be trading quite a few 2nd, 3rd, 4th round picks as they try to make deep playoff runs. Why not try to acquire a cpl extras when we can?!
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19 Oct 2021 18:54:14
Boys Boys Boys if you are all guys, this is just a fun post I posted either you agree or disagree, no need to attack each other.
08 Oct 2021 12:27:42
MoxNix
Ya no team needs a Top 2 Defenceman according to what you say.
Rielly hasn't played one game this season and you call him a rental, far as I know there are 82 games to be played this season plus the playoffs and yes adding Rielly I believe makes NJ a playoff team, they are much better than you have them predicted.
I agree at the trade deadline he is a rental but not for an entire season, that's where you make no sense.
07 Oct 2021 13:46:42
memarcusjoe and MoxNix
No I am comparing Rielly and Severson and comparing Barkov to Larkin.
You are both trying to sell Severson as better than Rielly when he clearly isn't is my point.
In my response I didn't compare Rielly to Barkov at all if you read it properly.
06 Oct 2021 18:47:07
Ok memarcusjoe and islandjet
Let's make a similar trade with 2 other teams, does Detroit say no to this?
Detroit Trades
Larkin
4th Round Pick 2022
Florida Trades
Barkov
Gudas
Lammikko
Very similar to my proposal tell me does Detroit say no to that proposal?
05 Oct 2021 17:50:51
memarcusjoe
Severson will be a UFA after next season just like Justin Holl, so that's false information as Severson isn't signed long term.
Engvall is a RFA after this season and of course Rielly a UFA after this season.
Curious why this full season of having Rielly on NJ doesn't seem to count for anything?
Playing there and getting to know the team and players would be a selling tool to resign him, plus PK will be off the books of 9m, that's plenty to resign Rielly for The Devils.
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