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31 May 2025 12:21:05
Anaheim Trades
RStrome
CGauthier
10th Overall Pick 2025
89th Overall Pick 2025
Toronto Trades
WNylander*
McMann
*WNylander will have to waive his NTC.
I tweaked my original post as some on here look at it as one sided for The Leafs, this gives Cap plus some youth to Toronto.
Thoughts ?
1.) 31 May 2025 14:55:44
Other than Gautier, it looks okay. If Toronto asks for 21 year old top prospect that is a key piece for Anaheim's future for 29 year old, overpaid complimentary winger that isn't going to make much difference for Anaheim next season and will be declining when the Ducks get near the playoffs. Anaheim says no easily.
2.) 31 May 2025 17:01:28
Nylander is only worth a great return like this in the eyes of Leaf fans. No teams would want a playoff floater like subway boy.
3.) 01 Jun 2025 00:59:37
lol Nylander is the leafs best player, not Mathews, Not Marner. He won’t be moved only player that plays with hart in the playoffs.
William Nylander=David Pasternak
Toronto does not do this deal from a marketing perspective aswell as a on ice perspective.
4.) 01 Jun 2025 15:36:04
Lol he's the best player when he decides to be. His work ethic is still lack luster when the bounces aren't going his way and that shined through in the Florida series. At least Matthews picked up his play defensively when the bounces weren't there for him.
5.) 02 Jun 2025 01:14:38
memarcusjoe.
If Anaheim is getting WNylander do you really think a player like CGauthier plus a 1st Rounder wouldn't be the asking price?
I am also adding McMann in my proposal as well.
Again WNylander is an elite player and had 15 points in 13 games in this years playoffs.
6.) 02 Jun 2025 13:21:08
Pinball, I agree that Toronto might ask Anaheim for Gauthier, I'm just saying there is just no chance that Anaheim considers paying it.
Nylander isn't a play driver and isn't the piece that puts Anaheim over the top and makes them a Stanley Cup contender. He doesn't even make them a playoff team.
7.) 02 Jun 2025 20:26:06
@Memarcusjoe. You atleast got to admit he’s atleast a tier above Kyle Connor and Mark Schifele at worst.
8.) 02 Jun 2025 21:45:19
Lol. Sure vbb. Both Connor and Scheifele outscored Nylander, one is a far more valuable point a game center and both cost 3 to 4 mil less per season, but somehow Nylander is a tier above.
Do you even think before you post, or is it all "Laff player better"?
9.) 03 Jun 2025 09:46:06
OMG…Nylander a tier above Kyle Connor?
That might be your most outrageous post ever! ?
- Connor has more career goals and points despite having played almost a full season less.
- Connor makes 4M less than Nylander, and that stuff matters a lot to most hockey fans.
Thanks for the laughs as always?.
10.) 03 Jun 2025 16:33:31
What next vbbvbb Reilly is better than Morrissey, Woll is better than Helly. Your such a Leaf homer it's so sad.
11.) 03 Jun 2025 23:55:32
Nope Rielly is not close to Morrisey nor is Woll close to Helly. Mathews (a player that’s a tier below Nylander) is on most pro analysits (TSN, Sportsnet, etc) a top 5 player I think I seen him at 7th which was the lowest.
Nylanders 98 point season is higher then Kyle Connors career high. Not to mention Kyle Connor has averaged almost 3 minutes more of ice time throughout his career which is about 12 extra GP per year. When you take a look pts per 60min Nylander is closer to Connor McDavid then Kyle Connor.
Not that I’d expect primitive nomads to understand statistics.
12.) 04 Jun 2025 00:22:12
Lol vbb. Now you have yourself believing thatwith enough smoke and mirrors, Nylander is in the same class McDavid. You should have quit when you were behind and we all just thought you were a homer.
You've taken your silliness to a foolish new level.
13.) 04 Jun 2025 01:49:27
Ooops my bad for for not dumbing it down enough for you.
Saying a piece of wood is closer to a tree than it is a garbage bin isn’t saying a piece of wood is a tree.
Nylander is no where’s near McDavid or MacKinnon or Crosby but he’s closer to them then he is to Kyle Connor. My apologies I overestimated your reading comprehension.
14.) 04 Jun 2025 02:19:10
? just keep believing in that smoke and mirrors thing VBB. Nylander is near the same level as McDavid. Ay yi yi.
What a maroon.
15.) 04 Jun 2025 02:20:59
I forgot though. Nice try on the attempted back peddle.
16.) 06 Jun 2025 18:25:53
It’s even funnier when angry folks with questionable logic and conclusions try to be condescending …?.
17.) 07 Jun 2025 19:36:20
Hey everyone I just put out a proposal, didn't think it would go this far into a war of words.
I still believe it's a good trade for both teams but that's strictly my opinion.
Cheers Everyone.
29 May 2025 15:53:55
Anaheim Trades
Terry
Gauthier
1st Round Pick 2025 (10th Overall)
Toronto Trades
WNylander*
*WNylander will have to waive his NTC.
Ducks looking to make that next step and have enough good young players to make a deal like this going forward.
Toronto gets 2 solid Players back with Gauthier maybe being the best player going to The Leafs and free up some Cap to continue to change as Treliving said The DNA of the team.
Thoughts ?
1.) 29 May 2025 17:42:56
Not a chance the Ducks consider moving all that for Nylander. 2 comparable players and a high first, typical pinball.
A landslide trade win for Toronto and a deal that ends up getting the Anaheim GM fired.
2.) 29 May 2025 21:46:15
memarcusjoe.
So now WNylander isn't an elite player?
WNylander is the best player in my proposal and when you want an elite player like WNylander in his prime you're not getting him for a couple 4th liners.
3.) 29 May 2025 22:02:41
To add to Memarcus, why would a team that’s taking the time to build it slowly and correctly do this? Because they’d rather see the leafs succeed than themselves?
When your only criteria is what helps the leafs and ignores what another team needs, you get trade proposals like this: one-sides, leaf-loving trades that ignore what the non-leaf trade needs.
4.) 29 May 2025 22:58:27
Chickenfoot
The Ducks have more young good players and prospects then they do vets, they don't have an elite player in their prime though and markets like Anaheim look for this to sell more tickets, jerseys etc.
The NHL is very much a business as well and so many like yourself think it's just about playing hockey.
It isn't there is so much more involved, that's why a team like Anaheim would be looking to make a splash like this imo.
5.) 30 May 2025 03:33:15
Pinball, who said anything about elite?
You're coming to Anaheim asking for two top players, plus a first round pick to take your overpaid, complimentary winger.
Just as you have realized now, the benefit of having two players, the pick and the flexibilty that gives you is better than one guy taking up a huge chunk of cap.
With their timeline, Anaheim is better off with Gauthier and the pick as opposed to still have to pay Nylander 11.5 mil as he begins his decline when they are ready for the playoffs.
Anaheim is not obligated to bail Toronto out of their cap mismanagement.
6.) 30 May 2025 16:34:52
You make the rest of us Leaf fans look bad.
1) Nylander isn't going to all of a sudden make the Ducks a playoff team.
2) We would be selling so low on him. People just watched him put out next to zero effort in our final 3-4 games of the playoffs. We look like fools for paying him north of $10mill with the effort he was putting out.
3) ANA isn't going to trade away their future for a player who is going to have them in the same position as they were before. He may sell them a few more jerseys, but ultimately winning games sells tickets.
The change that's coming is Marner is walking. We shouldn't be willing to go above $11mill for him and I think he wants to leave too for a fresh start. From what I've gathered he's not interested in a sign and situation either so we are unlikely to recoup any assets for him; that's the nature of the beast though.
Hopefully JT gets brought back at a decent cap hit, Knies gets locked down for 5+ years, and we go after some guys to really fill out our team that are the type of guys to drag yah through the mud in the guts of the game. We do that and we are going to be a much better team come playoff time. Regular season success is cool and all, but the playoffs is what actually matters.
7.) 30 May 2025 17:24:57
memarcusjoe
Top 5 RW scoring leaders this past season.
1. Kucherov
2. Pastrnak
3. Marner
4. Rantanen
5. WNylander
How can defend that he isn't an elite RWinger?
8.) 30 May 2025 18:18:08
As usual Pinball the point goes right over your head. I never mentioned anything about whether Nylander was elite or not, you're just trying to argue something with yourself, because you have nothing else realistic to offer on how this helps Anaheim.
So, instead of trying to deflect and argue against a point that neither myself or anyone else made, make an argument for what was actually said to defend your trade.
Tell me why Anaheim guts their future by trading away a high end young player just entering his prime, for an overpaid player, soon to be 30 and exiting his prime, just because it helps Toronto free themselves from a bad contract?
That's what I want to hear about from you. Not an argument against yourself about semantics.
9.) 30 May 2025 18:22:57
Even fellow Leaf fans are telling you it's extremely biased in favour of Toronto.
10.) 02 Jun 2025 16:36:02
Pinball. listen to your fellow leaf fans. You're embarrassing yourself. Your conclusions, and the logic behind them, are deeply flawed.
I'm REALLY looking forward to the two-month break from your posts when Marner doesn't re-sign with the leafs.
19 May 2025 15:51:44
Here we go it's been a while since I posted but here is my Leaf off season proposal.
Seattle Trades
McCann
CFleury (RFA)
Stephens (AHL)
Toronto Trades
McMann
Kampf
Jarnkrok
McCabe
I also believe they will resign Marner and Tavares and also go hard on signing Marchand and Bennett as character players are lacking on The Leafs imo.
There will be changes no doubt but they aren't going to tear it down either.
Thoughts ?
1.) 19 May 2025 19:50:31
Marchand never wanted to go there in the 1st place so no chance he goes now and why would sea want 4th liners for mccann.
2.) 19 May 2025 20:33:44
Laughable they r not resigning either marner or Tavares. Certainly not going to be able to sign both plus Marchand and Bennett ???.
3.) 20 May 2025 13:16:26
- The fact you think the leafs would even consider re-signing Marner, or that he'd want to re-sign there, shows what you know about even your favourite team.
- The fact that you think the leafs would have the cap space (or the interest) to re-sign Marner & Tavares, and somehow magically sign Bennett & Marchand, shows what you know about the business of hockey.
- The fact you continue to post garbage trade after garbage trade, despite years of feedback saying your trades are absolutely beyond the realm of possibility, shows that you're incapable of intaking information and adjusting.
I have to hand it to you leaf fans. you're the most patient fanbase on the planet. The most overhyped rebuild in hockey yielded two series wins in almost a decade and the most embarrasing Game 7 record in hockey. I honestly don't know how you cheer for a team like that.
4.) 21 May 2025 12:52:48
Chickenfoot just knows it all lol.
Yes they will resign Marner because teams don't let elite players walk for nothing, I hope you apologize to me on here when Marner and Tavares are resigned.
Cheers.
5.) 21 May 2025 17:04:22
Nice of the NHL to let us not have a salary cap in your trade and signing scenario. Only way that would be even remotely possible.
We're only going to be able to keep a combo of 2/ 3 of Marner, Tavares, and Knies. My hope is we keep Knies and maybe Tavares if the deal is low enough. We can't afford to pay three guys north of $11mill and fill the rest of the team with 'meh' players. If we want to do any sort of damage in the playoffs our team needs to score by committee and that only happens if you have a deeper, well rounded team.
Ideally we get Knies signed to a Slaf like deal, ideally less would be even better. We move Jarnkrok and Kampf for late draft picks to teams trying to hit the cap floor. Time for some of these AHL guys to get a legitimate look. Leaves the Leafs around around $17mill roughly I believe. Can look to add maybe a bigger name like Boeser, Ehlers, Ekbald under $10mill. Then go after some better depth like Fredric, Granlund, Tanev, etc. Won't be able to sign em all but we'd be a much deeper team going forward if we could add a few of them.
Going to be an interesting off-season.
6.) 21 May 2025 19:53:43
Pinball…I would be HAPPY to apologize to you if the leafs resign Marner.
Shall I assume you’ll own it if they don’t resign Marner? You’re good for that I assume?
7.) 21 May 2025 20:53:15
Chickenfoot yes I am a man of my word if Marner signs elsewhere I wil post an apology to you personally.
8.) 22 May 2025 01:36:37
Pinball…an apology is a little dramatic, just own it, that’s all. You post a lot of crazy crap, so if Marner doesn’t re-sign, just give everyone a 2-month break from your posts. I’ll do the same?.
9.) 22 May 2025 12:51:35
Deal Chickenfoot.
10.) 23 May 2025 03:04:54
Pinball ?.
11.) 23 May 2025 18:11:46
Please don't take 2 months off, either of you , this site has lost alot of people over the years. Your guys banter back and forth is good reading at time lol
Anyway.. I think Marner is done in Toronto, I could see Tavares taking a home town discount to stay in Toronto, to retire a Leaf. Bennett to Toronto also sounds realistic, id personally not like that as a Habs fan.
I dont know what it is about the Leafs, but they just don't seem to have any heart..It seems like a bad character team, and they should consider blowing it up and starting over.
12.) 23 May 2025 23:29:11
@Sosahabs24! the issue is they don't have a genuine drag you through the mud leader that's won on the roster. You need that kind of player to do well, especially when you're in the guts of the game. Bennett checks that bill, but I don't think he leaves Florida. I think Marner is gone. Seems like he's ready for a fresh start and I think the Leafs are as well. The realization that we can't pay three guys north of $10mill and build an effective roster has hopefully sunk in. Tavares brought back on a cheap deal would be alright. 30+ goal scorer, good on the dot, battles hard. His foot speed is an issue obviously tho.
13.) 24 May 2025 13:12:28
MG loves his team but is never a Homer. Full respect for that. ?.
09 May 2025 15:06:07
Devils Trade
Mercer
Dillon
Nemec
Hameenaho (SM-liiga)
2nd Round Pick 2025
Canucks Trade
QHughes
5th Round Pick 2025
Thoughts ?
1.) 09 May 2025 16:17:32
As Jersey, I wouldn't do that. Why give up that much quality youth for 2 years? Either wait, or let Hughes put the pressure on the Canucks to lower the asking price. So that he has a good, deep team to come to.
2.) 09 May 2025 17:05:29
memarcusjoe.
Canucks trading their best player and Captain they would want a huge haul imo.
Vancouver isn't going to give QHughes away if traded I believe.
This is something that Vancouver would want in making this type of trade, and NJ gets better immediately.
3.) 09 May 2025 17:45:27
Sure that's what Vancouver would want, but that doesn't mean that's what they will get.
If he only wants to go to one team, there isn't a lot of bargaining power.
I wouldn't do it, if he has his heart set on going to Jersey only. I'd wait until the price becomes more reasonable, but that's me, maybe Jersey management is more cavalier with their assets.
03 May 2025 20:31:24
Islanders Trade
Mayfield
Leafs Trade
NRobertson
Kampf*
Benoit
*Kampf would have to waive his NTC if The Islanders are not on his list.
Mayfield gives Toronto another CTanev Carlo type RHanded Defenceman which Treliving is always looking for.
Islanders at a point to start making changes and yes Kampf has to be part of this type of proposal, but for the future this is the type of smaller deals I see them doing.
Thoughts ?
1.) 05 May 2025 16:43:16
Benoit has been playing lights out these playoffs and is signed to a cheap deal. There is zero reason to deal him at all. Not one.
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30 Aug 2024 12:56:57
This isn't a trade post.
I just wanted to say RIP for Johnny Gaudreau and prayers for his family after his tragic death.
Very sad day for everyone who loves the game of hockey.
1.) 30 Aug 2024 18:26:22
A horrible tragedy. RIP to the Gaudreau brothers, Johnny and Matthew.
14 Jun 2024 15:53:08
New Jersey Trades
Mercer
Nemec
10th Overall Pick 2024
2nd Round Pick 2025
Toronto Trades
Marner*
Liljegren
*Marner would have to both waive his NMC and do a sign and trade otherwise Marner and NJ say no.
IF Marner agrees to a trade and signing long term with NJ and The Leafs willing to make this bold move, it will definitely change things for both teams.
Mercer is no Marner but a solid Winger, Liljegren is no Nemec either and that's the improvement for Toronto, I see NJ pursuing Guentzel and should have just enough to sign him and have a full roster imo.
Thoughts ?
13 Jun 2024 15:35:37
Montreal Trades
Suzuki
Caufield
DSavard
5th Overall Pick 2024
57th Overall Pick 2024
Toronto Trades
Marner*
NRobertson
1st Round Pick 2026
*Marner would have to both waive his NTC and do a sign and trade.
Montreal wants Marner this should be the asking price if Marner agrees to going to Montreal.
Thoughts ?
1.) 13 Jun 2024 19:58:48
Not even sure why I am responding to this. bur Pinball, maybe this is why you get so much negative backlash on this site. This is horrible. I might be bias, but this is one of the more rediculous trades I've seen from you.
28 Feb 2023 21:35:48
What a Leaf Day so far.
Leafs Going
Sandin (Washington)
Engvall (NYIslanders)
3rd Round Pick (Vancouver)
Leafs Incoming
Gustafsson (Washington)
LSchenn (Vancouver)
1st Round Pick 2023 (Boston's Pick)
3rd Round Pick 2024 (NYIslanders)
All I can say is my thorn on here Chickenfoot, didn't I say Dubas was going to do big things ?
More to come by THE GENIUS Dubas.
1.) 01 Mar 2023 12:47:53
In 2 weeks he has brought in O’Rielly, McCabe, Acciari, Lafferty, Schenn, Gustafsson and recovered a 1st rounder…. lost only Sandin, Engvall and Joey Anderson off the NHL roster, has chicago paying 50% of McCabe for 2 more seasons AND actually gained cap space over that period.
I honestly don’t know anyone else that would have or could have done that. If they don’t extend him, where do you go looking for a replacement GM that’s an upgrade? I wouldn’t wanna be the guy who has to find it. And if you don’t keep Dubas around, does Brandon Pridham, their cap expert, stay? Or does he go with Dubas?
I think it’ll be a big mistake to not extend Dubas regardless of what happens in the first round. He’s done his job at an elite level. It’s up to the players to do theirs now.
18 Mar 2022 19:12:42
Toronto Trades
WNylander
NRobertson
Liljegren
Dermott
Hirvonen (SML)
1st Round Pick 2022
2nd Round Pick 2023
Vancouver Trades
JTMiller
Garland
LSchenn
Hunt
Both Toronto and Vancouver basically said respectfully that WNylander and/or JTMiller wouldn't be traded from their respected teams, and I know it probably won't happen, but if both Teams would be willing I believe this would be great trade for both Teams imo, plus it would be the biggest deadline trade in NHL history.
Thoughts ?
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07 Jun 2025 19:36:20
Hey everyone I just put out a proposal, didn't think it would go this far into a war of words.
I still believe it's a good trade for both teams but that's strictly my opinion.
Cheers Everyone.
02 Jun 2025 01:14:38
memarcusjoe.
If Anaheim is getting WNylander do you really think a player like CGauthier plus a 1st Rounder wouldn't be the asking price?
I am also adding McMann in my proposal as well.
Again WNylander is an elite player and had 15 points in 13 games in this years playoffs.
30 May 2025 17:24:57
memarcusjoe
Top 5 RW scoring leaders this past season.
1. Kucherov
2. Pastrnak
3. Marner
4. Rantanen
5. WNylander
How can defend that he isn't an elite RWinger?
29 May 2025 22:58:27
Chickenfoot
The Ducks have more young good players and prospects then they do vets, they don't have an elite player in their prime though and markets like Anaheim look for this to sell more tickets, jerseys etc.
The NHL is very much a business as well and so many like yourself think it's just about playing hockey.
It isn't there is so much more involved, that's why a team like Anaheim would be looking to make a splash like this imo.
29 May 2025 21:46:15
memarcusjoe.
So now WNylander isn't an elite player?
WNylander is the best player in my proposal and when you want an elite player like WNylander in his prime you're not getting him for a couple 4th liners.
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