NHL rumours 5

19 May 2019 20:12:56
Pettersson devils
First overall draft jack Hughes Canucks

Jets 2020 first round pick, tanev and a 3rd in 2019

Canucks trouba

19 May 2019 22:25:49
Tanev is an UFA so he's a no go but the Jets would have to add Trouba plus and I still don't think this trade is enough from the Jets.

19 May 2019 23:28:51
Rather have Petterson.

19 May 2019 23:54:12
Sorry, that would be a no from Winnipeg on the Trouba trade.

20 May 2019 14:13:33
These trades were awful the first time you posted it, they still aren’t good now.

Pettersson is a phenomenal budding player and there is ZERO guarantee Hughes will be better, the Canucks have absolutely no reason to do this.

The Trouba trade is pretty good, Tanev is a still a great defenseman, the injuries just lower his value. If he can get on a better team like WPG where he’ll have to block less shots than his injuries will likely fall too. The first and third are nice extra value.

19 May 2019 20:18:19
CGY : Michael Frolik
EDM : Kris Russell (50% Retained Salary)

CGY : Rasmus Andersson, 26th Overall Selection & Mark Jankowski
NYI : Nick Leddy

CGY : TJ Brodie
MTL : Philip Danault

CGY : Michael Stone
VGK : 7th-Round Pick

CGY : James Neal, Curtis Lazar & 2nd-Round Pick
ARI : Jason Demers

CGY : Juuso Välimäki, Dillon Dube & 3rd-Round Pick
WPG : Nikolaj Ehlers

CGY : Mikael Backlund, 4th-Round Pick & Oliver Kylington
NSH : Viktor Arvidsson



Calgary Flames Projected Lines :


Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - Elias Lindholm

Matthew Tkachuk - Sam Bennett - Viktor Arvidsson

Nikolaj Ehlers - Philip Danault - Austin Czarnik

Andrew Mangiapane - Derek Ryan - Garnet Hathaway


Mark Giordano - Travis Hamonic

Nick Leddy - Jason Demers

Noah Hanifin - Kris Russell

19 May 2019 21:34:29
No thanks on the Winnipeg trade.

19 May 2019 22:26:56
Jets wouldn't make this trade.

19 May 2019 23:30:51
I'd like to keep Danualt on Habs. he will never be a star, however he is starting to remind me of Guy Carbonneau. a really solid 2 way player, who will start to generate some Selke talk as he gains more experience. by far Bergevins best trade.

20 May 2019 04:05:42
Sosa i agree but value wise wouldn't that be enough for danault. Fills their need on defence aswell.
Brodie - Weber
Mete - Petry

20 May 2019 14:11:17
Huge no from Calgary on the leddy Trade leafs counter with Kappanen, Rights to Gardiner and a 2020 1st for Ras Andersson. He’s probably the last dman Calgary trades.

21 May 2019 21:43:03
I am a Calgary Habs fan, although I do watch many Flames games. TJ Brodie is on the decline and is now inconsistent. Not a good addition to the Habs defense.

19 May 2019 20:17:03
EDM : Jesse Puljujärvi, 2nd-Round Pick & Ethan Bear
LA : Tyler Toffolli

EDM : Milan Lucic, Tyler Benson, 2020 1st-Round Pick & Joseph Gambardella
ARI : 6th-Round Pick

EDM : Andrej Sekera, Kailer Yamamoto, Sam Gagner & 4th-Round Pick
OTT : Cody Ceci

EDM : Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
WPG : Nikolaj Ehlers, 2nd-Round Pick & Ben Chiarot

EDM : 8th Overall Selection
STL : Jaden Schwartz

EDM : Kris Russell
CGY : Michael Frolik

EDM : Zack Kassian
VGK : 6th-Round Pick

EDM : Adam Larsson
CHI : Brent Seabrook, Dylan Strome, 3rd Overall Selection & John Hayden


Edmonton Oilers Sign
• (LW) Jared McCann (925K @ 1YR)
• (C) Tyler Ennis (925K @ 1YR)


Edmonton Oilers Projected Lines :


Nikolaj Ehlers - Connor McDavid - Tyler Toffolli

Jaden Schwartz - Leon Draisaitl - Dylan Cozens

Jujhar Khaira - Dylan Strome - Michael Frolik

Jared McCann - Tyler Ennis - John Hayden


Oscar Klefbom - Evan Bouchard

Darnell Nurse - Brent Seabrook

Ben Chariot - Cody Ceci

19 May 2019 20:30:37
No comment on other trades but to much for Toffoli.

19 May 2019 21:39:04
No thanks from Winnipeg.

19 May 2019 21:50:28
WPG should definitely take that they need an Upgrade on the 2C and Nuge would be great.

19 May 2019 22:48:31
RNH is not worth Ehlers plus, as he will expect a crazy contract in 2 years that he doesn't deserve. Ehlers is signed long term on a very cap friendly contract so Let the Oilers give RNH what he wants in 2 years. Also Charoit is an UFA.

20 May 2019 01:59:12
@islandjet
You're joking right? RHN >> Ehlers

Ehlers scored 37 points last season, is that worth 6 million dollars per year? Not saying it's a bad contract and he will most likely bounce back to be a 55-65 point forward in his career but it's definitely not ''very cap friendly''.

Winnipeg shouldn't care about the fact that the contract is longer for Ehlers as this is your Stanley Cup window.

RHN is pretty much a 30 goal, 70+ point centre if he has the support from his wingers. Playing on the second line this season, he scored 28 goals and had 69 points.

20 May 2019 04:06:57
Islandjet, Nuge will probably get a Nylander similar contract. 6.9M @ 4-6 years. I wouldn't say a huge raise

20 May 2019 12:15:07
Well the Winnipeg Jets are an all star team of the 20 best players to ever play hockey so players like Nuge and McDavid carry no value because they’d just be sent to the AHL.

20 May 2019 15:43:26
Its not that Jet fans over value their players it just most of the trade proposals here don't make the Jets better. I believe there will be trades by the draft and we'll see what return Chevy can get.

20 May 2019 16:21:24
Ehlers “very cap friendly” but Nylander has “a terrible contract. ” Very similar numbers and age, Nylander can also play center. Nylander makes less than a million more than Ehlers. These jets fans should be banned from the site. RNH would be a very nice addition to the #2 center position. The jets have the best wingers in the league apparently, losing Ehlers should be a no brainer to get a legit #2. Little is garbage.

20 May 2019 19:51:43
Jared McCann is on the penguins, under contract. Unless their is some other guy named Jared McCann.

20 May 2019 22:11:23
Please. not even 1 shred of sensibility on any of these.

Trade 1 no go. Tofolli only has 1 year left on his contract. Edmonton needs to dump salary, not gain salary.

Trade 2 LOLOLOLOL. Can't even comment on that one. funny. No go

Trade 3 Massive overpay since Sekera alone is better than Ceci who could hold out for a lot of money as an RFA.

Trade 4 ends as soon as you started to type the first letter of RNH w/ o a #1 dman coming back.

Trade 5 Why in the world would St Louis give up Schwartz? That's just ridiculous no matter if Cousins is available at 8 or not.

Trade 6 Frolik is a terribly inconsistent player. Don't see a team like edmonton that lacks consistancy wanting a player that only plays good once every 6 games. Kovalev syndrome but at least Kovy when he decided he wanted to play. played at an elite allstar level.

Trade 7? Ok this is getting into troll world. 6th round pick really? One of the best players for his contract value last year for a 6th round pick? Please.

Trade 8 Seabrook's term is too long to consider. I am sure Edm has only 1 roster spot for a washed up old man on D ( Sekera ) If Seabrooks term was only a year or 2 the trade would have a possibility of being sensible.

20 May 2019 14:12:00
These are brutal.

21 May 2019 21:43:49
yeah that's a garbage offer for schwartz.

19 May 2019 20:16:34
EDM : Adam Larsson
CHI : Brent Seabrook, Dylan Strome, 3rd Overall Selection & John Hayden

19 May 2019 23:36:55
Way to much. also don't think Edmonton can afford this due to cap.
But, Strome is showing he may be a decent scoring 2nd line Ctr. I can see this kid hitting 70 points. I think Chicago would be wise to keep him.

20 May 2019 14:15:52
What is this looooool

Dylan Strome = Adam Larsson (imo)
also why would the Oilers take Seabrook's contract?

23 May 2019 23:24:36
tyba, the process of elimination tells me that the Oilers would be taking seabrook to get the 3rd overall pick and Hayden if I read it correctly.

19 May 2019 19:01:45
A few offseason moves for the Leafs.

Trades:

1.
To TOR:
Eric Staal
Jared Spurgeon
2020 2nd Round Pick

To MIN:
Nazem Kadri
Kasperi Kapanen
Nikita Zaitsev
2020 1st Round Pick

2.
To EDM:
Connor Brown

To TOR:
Colby Cave

*Re-sign Hainsey 1-year $1.5M*

New Lines:
Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander
Moore-Staal-Bracco
Marleau-Cave-Mikheyev

Rielly-Spurgeon
Muzzin-Dermott
Sandin-Hainsey

Andersen
Sparks??

Thoughts?

19 May 2019 23:37:31
Dont trade Kappanen.

20 May 2019 04:08:06
I actually think these are pretty good

20 May 2019 22:14:26
Line combo's you have listed are incorrect. Marner's last game as a leaf was about a month ago as he takes his RFA offersheet bucks and leaves with a grin on his face. Lucky kid.

19 May 2019 15:38:08
Toronto:
S. Jones D
B. Jenner C
A. Texier RW

Columbus:
W. Nylander C
N. Kadri C
T. Liljegren D

19 May 2019 17:03:38
Columbus doesn’t do that for Jones alone.

20 May 2019 19:26:10
Maybe look at dumba in minny.

19 May 2019 15:35:26
Just a little idea:

Toronto Trades: Patrick Marleau (6.25M x 1 Year) + Connor Brown (2.1M x 1 Year) + Jeremy Bracco (AHL)

Arizona Trades: Conditional 1st Round Pick

Condition: If Marleau is bought out by Arizona, no pick is awarded to Toronto.

In essence, Arizona swallows 6M off of Marleaus salary for a top9 forward in Brown and a PPG guy in the AHL in Bracco. This is similar to Grubauer+Orpik for 2nd+3rd, however, the return with Marleau is less because Toronto doesn’t acquire anything in return. The Conditional 1st is there for one reason: to ensure that Marleau waives his NTC; Arizona won’t want to give up the 1st, so they can buy him out and he can return to Toronto, just like Orpik did.

Toronto does this to save 8M in cap, and we don’t disrupt the locker room as Marleau would return like Oprik on a team friendly 1 year deal. It isn’t considered cap circumvention, its just frowned upon.

19 May 2019 17:29:19
Zero chance Arizona would consider putting their first on the line for this and zero chance Marleau waives to go to Arizona. The league has also closed the Orpik loophole, so this would be cap circumvention.

19 May 2019 20:45:30
Marcus, i didn't realize that it isn't circumvention. And they really aren’t putting their first on the line because its literally just there to make sure Marleau gets bought out. And Marleau would waive to be bought out.

And I’m just curious, how did the league fix the Orpik-loophole?

19 May 2019 20:48:29
Cause I read from a Washington source that the move McLellan did was only considered ‘really good’. The NHL investigated and found nothinh that was wrong with it, cause the rule states that a team cannot buyout and then resign. Trading, being bought out and resigning is different, at least from the rules i’ve seen. Idk if they changed it.

19 May 2019 21:50:55
I guess they haven't really changed it, but they said they will monitor these situations closely. Apparently, the league was satisfied with the explanation that Washington had no intention of re-signing Orpik after Colorado originally bought him out since that would be cap circumvention.

So, with what you are planning, the league would easily discover the original intent and veto the deal. Which is why I can't see Marleau agreeing to it.

How does the first guarantee he is bought out? Why can't they just use their 7th or something worthless?

19 May 2019 22:12:20
maybe toronto can work something out with San jose.

20 May 2019 04:09:33
Pretty fair value wise but cap wise no and i don't think Marleau would waive either

20 May 2019 16:40:00
Oh @Marcus, the first was kinda included rather than future considerations that way Arizona knows that they have to buy him out, and Marleau too knows of this. So that way, he gets bought out and allows for himself to find the best possible solution, most likely back with Toronto by late summer.

And i do agree that the NHL will monitor this stuff, but since the buyout will be paid within the cap (not like Lecavalier when they tried to send him to Toronto for a buyout and it got vetoed) itll probably still work.

20 May 2019 22:15:43
Marleau envokes his NTC and says NOPE.

19 May 2019 15:30:57
Montreal:
E. Malkin C
K. Letang D

Pittsburgh:
J. Drouin LW
S. Weber D (1million retained)
1st 2019
2nd 2020

19 May 2019 15:47:29
No from Pits.

19 May 2019 15:25:24
Canucks first overall pick select Jack hughes
Devils Petterson

Canucks Seasbrook and 3rd overall draft byram

Hawks 10th overall pick Diepetro

Jets 2020 first rd pick, tanev and goldobin

canucks trouba

19 May 2019 16:20:42
Jets wouldn't do this trade.

19 May 2019 17:34:55
No thanks from Winnipeg.

19 May 2019 20:22:48
God no from Vancouver on the first one, Petey is a special player and there is ZERO guarantee Hughes will be better.

Again, a huge no from Vancouver, Seabrooks contract is even worse than Eriksson’s considering age, and his extended length and AAV.

As for the third one? Idk. Jets fans on here are pretty delusional in regards to what Trouba is worth considering he’s most likely going to leave as an RFA, and unless he guarantees that he’ll sign for a reasonable price with whatever team WPG trades his rights too, no one is going to want him.

I think he’ll get a replacement defensemen and either a first or a lower pick and a decent prospect. He definitely isn’t going to get the king’s ransom that Jets fans on here think he will.

19 May 2019 08:44:26
What would be the asking price for Malkin? Pittsburgh needs defence but also cap space and Arizona needs a legit number one center.

Would this package get it done?

ARI : D Jakob Chychrun, C Nate Schnarr, D Pierre Oliver-Joseph & 14th Overall Selection

PIT : C Evgeni Malkin & D Olli Maatta

19 May 2019 14:36:31
Value wise not bad but Arizona feels like a place Malkin wouldn’t waive to.