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07 Oct 2024 03:08:46
Mtl- gallagher 25% retain, dvorak, 1st pick cgy/fla , 2nd pick clb 2025, primeau

Cbj- melzekins, olivier

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07 Oct 2024 15:53:21
MTL declines.

Even though Gallagher & Anderson are not worth their salaries anymore, cap space isn't an issue for the Habs in this stage of their rebuild.

Both can be traded when they're on expiring contracts in 3 more years. There's no need to recklessly trade assets to clear cap space when it isn't needed. If anything, the Habs will likely help other teams clear space in exchange for picks or prospects.

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07 Oct 2024 19:32:24
We got to play those youngster, im tired of worned out, overpay players on the bottom 6.

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08 Oct 2024 14:25:39
Olivier would be a good add for most teams for their 4th line. The thing with the Habs is their young prospects to fit the role of a 4th liner besides the younger of the Wifi brothers. Habs are still a few years from being back in the playoff hunt so they can hold onto! He aging pieces and hope they bring their stock up to unload at the deadline or the draft.

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05 Oct 2024 03:03:26
Montreal should revisit Zegras trade
Mtl offers:
Mtl 2025 1st round (top 10 protected)
Fla 2025 1st round
Filip mesar
To ducks for
Trevor Zegras
Montreal lines for 2026
Slavkosky Suzuki laine
Zegras dach caufield
Demidov Newhook Roy
Gallagher beck or evans kapanen

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05 Oct 2024 18:44:13
I'm not sold on Zegras . I'd entertain that trade for a lesser cost.

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05 Oct 2024 19:18:56
If I’m MTL, I pass.

The kids has loads of talent, and while he’s only 23, he just doesn’t seem like the kind of guy you “win” with. (Winning will be the only measure of how MTL’s rebuild will be judged. )

I also think that ANA will want two more pieces, like a young D (which the Habs have lots of) and one more prospect.

Regardless, if ANA moves him, they’ll get generous return for this talented kid👍.

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06 Oct 2024 23:18:33
What about reinbacher for Zegras? I’m not sold on reinbacher… never was , passing on mishkov for him was an equivalent of taking kk instead of tkatchuk or Quinn Hugues!

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04 Oct 2024 04:49:08
OTT - Ulmark, 1st
BOS - Swayman.

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04 Oct 2024 17:55:20
Seems odd from Bostons perspective considering they just traded Ullmark instead of Swayman.

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04 Oct 2024 17:59:37
Hey EBS, your deal is fair, value-wise, but I just don’t think it would ever happen. Ulmark moving twice in a short time like that just wouldn’t look good on either franchise.

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05 Oct 2024 06:09:29
Ulmark might be happy to come back who knows. Odd for sure though. Boston probably regret there decision at this point.

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05 Oct 2024 19:27:53
I agree 100% EBS! When they traded Ulmark before signing Swayman they committed the worst unforced error I’ve seen since some of Dubas’ beauties!

I’m sure Swayman’s agent is still laughing hard at Sweeney handing him all the leverage. 😁.

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07 Oct 2024 13:11:49
So Boston receives:

Linus Ullmark
2 1st round draft picks
Joonas Korpisalo
Mark Kastelic

And all they need to do is trade Swayman?

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07 Oct 2024 18:47:15
Yeah except not Ulmark. Lol and Korpisalo is a cap dump at 4M.

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03 Oct 2024 13:56:08
Leafs Reade Kampf, 50% retained to CBJ for a 7th round pick in 2029.
Leafs trade Lillj3gren to Sharks for a 5th in 2028
Leafs trade Robertson to Ducks for a 4th in 2027.

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04 Oct 2024 18:00:45
These look fair to me👍.

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02 Oct 2024 13:53:01
LAKings Trade
Clarke

Toronto Trades
Kampf*
Liljegren
Timmons
Hildeby (AHL)
1st Round Pick 2026

Toronto retains 50% of Kampf's remaining contract.


This is not just a Cap Trade but also a hockey trade for both Teams, with Doughty out getting both Liljegren and Timmons will help right away from the backend, Hildeby is close and The Kings don't have that young depth in Goaltender and Hildeby might just be the best player in this proposal.

It's really a lot to give up for The Leafs, but with a Cap issue this fixes it and getting Clarke with such a high sealing it's worth the cost.


Thoughts ?

Believable1 Unbelievable19

02 Oct 2024 15:57:53
There's just no real upside on this for LA. They've developed Clarke and are looking at him to start logging bigger minutes and playing a bigger role. Losing Doughty sucks obviously, but they will likely address internally or maybe trade for someone like Timmins as a stop gap until Doughty comes back. The last thing we should be doing is unloading Hildeby. We finally have some promising young goalies in the system, him being the best one. Let him have another good year in the AHL and if injuries happen we bring him up and give him a few games to see how he's fairing. Hopefully next year he's ready to make the jump to be a full time NHLer.

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02 Oct 2024 22:50:59
Pinball, you won't get Clark for that package.

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03 Oct 2024 03:04:00
Or LA could just continue you to develop Clarke and give him more opportunities on the PP with Doughty out.

And I think you meant Clarke has such a high ceiling it's worth the cost.

And you're correct, Clarke has such a high ceiling it would take a much better return for LA than 3 role players on the Leafs roster, a goaltender prospect and a late 1st round pick.

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03 Oct 2024 10:36:02
To add to what MG, Euro & DRW said, there’s also the salary cap issue. While Doughty will be on LTIR to start the season, he’s officially listed as “Month to Month”, so when he comes back they’d be over the cap.

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22 Sep 2024 23:24:02
Pittsburg Trades:
Tristan Jarry

Ottawa Trades:
Linus Ullmark

Thoughts?

Believable1 Unbelievable27

23 Sep 2024 20:03:26
Why would Ottawa trade the Vezina winning goalie they just traded for.

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24 Sep 2024 19:26:49
This would never happen.

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26 Sep 2024 22:42:27
Ullmark for Jarry?!? lolol. good one. Get off the pipe.

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19 Sep 2024 22:50:41
Sharks Trade
Ferraro

Leafs Trade
NRobertson
Kampf
Liljegren

SJ with a ton of Cap has to take Kampf in this proposal for Leaf Cap reasons, but Ferraro paired with McCabe gives Toronto a solid second pairing.



Thoughts ?

Believable6 Unbelievable28

24 Sep 2024 19:28:29
Where’s the compensation for SJ absorbing all this contract dollars? What’s in it for them?

Brand new season, same old time-wasting nonsense from Pinball.

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24 Sep 2024 20:35:37
I don’t think either of you have ever watched a hockey game tbh. Especially you pinball you claim to be a leafs fan but yet include Lilijgren in every proposal.

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25 Sep 2024 00:36:50
And I VB, think it’s amusing that you hold Lilly in the high esteem you do. I’ve watched lots of hockey, played lots of hockey, and Lilly is the guy that hockey people don’t take all that seriously. His career will say it better than I could, though, so I’ll leave it to him to tell his own story.

In the meantime, I’ll just keep pretending I’m not endlessly amused by your Lilly love, and I’ll take it as a compliment that you don’t think I watch hockey in the manner you do🙏.

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25 Sep 2024 17:34:57
Im not sure what you’re trying to say here about his career but he’s currently playing around 20 minutes a night and is on the leafs 2nd pair. He is the 2nd most physical dman on the roster ( 137 hits, 172 Blks ) was his 82 game pace. Colton Paryanko for reference ( 113 hits and 218 blks ) averaging almost 5 minutes more of ice time per game and getting payed 4.5 million more.

You say he sucks? Well maybe he’s not great in a vacuum but the fact is on the leafs roster he’s irreplaceable. You always speak of the lack of D on the leafs roster is the reason for the lack of success so you suggest they trade their best RHD? Well to me if that’s a suggestion of someone that watches and “played” hockey (house hockey doesn’t count lol) then that speaks to the persons behind the suggestions intelligence.

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25 Sep 2024 22:22:15
If you’re happy with Lilly that’s all that matters, right? 👍.

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26 Sep 2024 21:50:11
It doesn’t matter how I feel it matters how Craig Brube feels and that’ll be judged on his ice time this season.

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28 Sep 2024 03:26:15
Chickenfoot
Hmmm I don't know what's in it for SJ, just like Ottawa trading Chychrun to Washington for Jensen and a 3rd Rounder, what's in it for Ottawa?
You see teams make trades that on the surface might not make sense to some but they happen regardless.
With how well Robertson is playing in the preseason he probably won't be traded in the end, I am sure SJ wouldn't mind a player like Robertson and Liljegren on their team and rebuilding like they are.
You know Leaf players believe it or not have value even though you always shoot it down.

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28 Sep 2024 15:08:42
Pinball, OTT needed to get rid of Chychrun. It wasn’t working and he needed to go to free up some cap space. They sold him off for what they could get.

As for you and your trades, they are always one-sided, and the feedback you receive reinforces that notion. I’m not sure what your deal is, but insightful trade proposals that benefit the team not named the leafs just isn’t your thing.

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28 Sep 2024 15:35:38
Chickenfoot
So Ottawa would have traded Chychrun to Toronto for Liljegren and a 3rd Rounder?
Tell me that would be fair in your opinion?

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28 Sep 2024 17:17:06
Chickenfoot
Jensen makes $4,050.000
Chychrun $4,600.000

What's the savings for Ottawa that moves the needle?

Know your facts Chickenfoot.

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29 Sep 2024 19:53:47
lol Chickenfoot just got outwitted by pinball actually laughed out loud.

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29 Sep 2024 23:47:31
You guys are hilarious…and not intentionally. You’re just hillarious.

Chychrun just wasn’t working out in OTT. They tried to make it work, but sometimes it just doesn’t, and you cut your losses and move on. They sold low on him, but they save 550K on their cap with him gone. Jensen isn’t much of a return, but in a capped out league, 550K isn’t insignificant. I realize that you’re no “capologist”, but as it stands today they only have 1.88M in cap space.

As the webmaster said previously, you’re in no position to lecture anyone on hockey. Your track record is what it is. You embarrass yourself too regularly to count. It’s what you do. Given that your team is perpetually up against the cap it’s pretty funny you don’t think 550K is much relief, but then again, that’s you😁

I’m still having a good laugh at you two though…so thanks for that. You take Lilly-lovin’ to a whole new level, and that ain’t easy. If you guys are happy with him, I’m happy for both of you! 😁👍.

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30 Sep 2024 04:33:13
Chickenfoot
But Liljegren makes $3,000.000 compared to Jensen making $4,050.000.
Wouldn't Liljegren been a better deal for Ottawa to make considering age difference etc, plus and extra million off the books?
Come on Chickenfoot you can do better than your usual EVERYONE agrees with you mentality that I know nothing about hockey.

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01 Oct 2024 18:31:28
@chickenfoot you love to bring up Pinballs track record but what’s yours. It’s quite pathetic really that you take your time out of your day to log on every day and attempt to bully/ belittle him. It’s quite pathetic how little you have going on for yourself to have the time each day to do that. I assume you are the laughing stock at your workplace and bullying him makes you feel better but this sites not a therapy board.

I have been a member on this site since I was 9 years old and I have yet to see anyone reply so much and provide such little insights or input. You post no proposals, no valuable discussions or contribute to no discussion in a valuable way. It’s not amusing Or aggressive it’s simply depressing.

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01 Oct 2024 21:48:24
Typical Pinball proposal showcasing how much of a soft Leafs fan he is.

No loyalty to any players that have locker room chemistry and packaging 3 players for 1 in return whilst at the same time claiming that Leafs players hold some value.

Vbv you may be right about Liljegrens value to the Leafs vs his actual value as a player. But that doesn't excuse you from being softer than 10 ply toilet paper. You're quick to attack someones intelligence when you disagree with their opinions, and even quicker to cry about bullying when your own intelligence is being questioned.

It's sad to see that a summer break from posting on here hasn't changed anything from either one of you.

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02 Oct 2024 02:16:15
VB…seriously? You load up on insults and accuse me of bullying and belittling? Seriously? Read your comment again…you’re kind of all over the place there.

It seems as though you’re working through your own insecurities as you project on to me. But as always, it’s hilarious, and all over the place.

I will continue to share my comments, and I’m pretty sure I won’t be nearly as disparaging or insulting as you. You do you Vb, and I hope the upcoming season makes you even happier👍.

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04 Oct 2024 21:10:23
According to TSN, and Lilly himself, his spot on the team doesn't seem like a sure thing:

TSN article

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06 Oct 2024 22:50:46
To Chickenfoot and Vb.
I have no issues of anyone making comments about my posts, again it's a fun sight and truly never have sleepless nights no matter what anyone says about my posts.
Thanx Vb for sticking up but I am ok no matter what anyone says.
Hey I keep it entertaining if anything lol.

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08 Oct 2024 16:44:26
You are the only one who thinks Homer trades that are always to the leafs’ benefit are “entertaining”.

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19 Sep 2024 14:09:58
This will probably never happen with waiving NTC/NMC, contract extension's etc, but if it did happen which team(s) do you think say no, here is my proposal.


Anaheim Trades
LCarlsson
McTavish
RStrome
Fowler

Toronto Trades
Tavares
Kampf
Marner
Liljegren



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19 Sep 2024 14:41:02
Just like all your trades Pinball, the non-Toronto team tells you to pound sand.

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19 Sep 2024 17:07:18
memarcusjoe
So I take it you see Anaheim saying no, I wasn't asking if this trade was fair etc.
I asked what team (s) would say no.

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19 Sep 2024 17:43:39
Correct Pinball, Anaheim says no.

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19 Sep 2024 22:18:52
Anaheim says NO.

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21 Sep 2024 20:45:09
You also ask for "thoughts" pinball, which is just a trick to excuse you from replying to your own posts.

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22 Sep 2024 15:31:24
Facelift39
Incorrect I only reply to my own post if I need to clarify something, in this case I was asking what Team (s) would say no, not if I think it's a good trade period.

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24 Sep 2024 19:31:12
The team not named the leafs would always say _____ NO in any Pinball trade.

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16 Sep 2024 17:33:05
To Oilers - Liljegren

To Leafs - 3rd rounder

With Kane going on LTIR they could absorb the contact. Apparently they are looking for an RD.

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18 Sep 2024 02:00:09
Why would the leafs have any interest in moving debatably their best RHD.

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19 Sep 2024 03:04:52
Blues got broberg for a 2nd.

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21 Sep 2024 06:15:20
@redwing Broberg is worse, overpaid and a LHD. He has shown nothing in the NHL.

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15 Sep 2024 14:11:14
Edm: skinner, M savoie, 2026 2nd (edm)

Chi: hall (50%), martinex (50%)


The return of the star. everythign is aligned perfectly for this to happen.

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15 Sep 2024 16:57:59
Oilers say no easily.

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12 Sep 2024 01:52:01
I see another low risk high reward trade for Montreal
Montreal make trade with rangers
Mtl sends :
Savard and a 3rd round (nj devils)
To rangers for:
Kaapo kakko
Rangers fill out their defence with a good defensive defenceman with Stanley cup winner
And mtl gets a high potential player a la laine ( both are Finnish)
2025 lineup
Slavkosky Suzuki caufield
Laine dach kakko
Roy Newhook Anderson
Gallagher evans armia or Dvorak
2026 lineup
Slavkosky Suzuki caufield
Demidov dach laine
Roy Newhook kakko
Gallagher beck Anderson

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13 Sep 2024 17:45:06
Apparently the Rangers were shopping him, but took him off the market due to the low offers they were getting.

I'm thinking the Rangers would jump at an offer like this. I'm guessing they'll hope that a new year brings improved play, and perhaps a better offer for him at the trade deadline. At this point I think he is what he is, and I wouldn't give up more than a 2nd to get him.

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