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17 Jul 2021 14:41:47
Buffalo:
D. Larkin C
V. Namestnikov RW
1st 2021
2nd 2022

Detroit:
J. Eichel C
C. Miller D
K. Okposo RW (dump)

Detroit UFA signings:
D. Hamilton D (8.5mil for 7years)
N. Foligno LW (4mil for 2 years)
K. Yandle D (4mil for 2 years)
B. Coleman RW (3mil for 3 years)
B. Goodrow RW (3mil for 3years)

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17 Jul 2021 14:45:42
Lol at Yandle getting 4mil per. I see him taking 1 mil or less he’s a huge defensive liability.

17 Jul 2021 15:54:54
Buffalo won’t take that to sell low on Eichel and Detroit will likely just keep where we are.

We also won’t sign that many free agents, I expect maybe 1-2 and that’s about it.

17 Jul 2021 16:18:43
Keith Yandle had more points and a better plus minus than Jack Eichel.

17 Jul 2021 18:02:09
You think Coleman and Goodrow sign to Detroit after two cups? I think Coleman is worth 4,5-5,5 mil.

17 Jul 2021 18:50:30
I think Goodrow maybe gets 2.5-3M for 3 or 4 years. Coleman I think gets 3.5-4.5 for 4 or 5 years.
Foligno gets more than 2 years for sure. And Yandle doesn’t get 4M.

17 Jul 2021 21:27:57
Yandle max 2,5mil or Edmonton sign 4mil same D pair with Keith.

17 Jul 2021 23:13:51
@Moxnix Eichel only played 21 games bruh. 18 points in 21. He’s overrated but still would be the best player on any of the rumoured trades (except Panarin)

18 Jul 2021 03:50:31
Keith Yandle put up more points playing on a great team in a sheltered 3rd pair role, shying away from hits to keep his iron man streak. He has no skating ability left what so ever. All he is at this point is a 6th dman who needs to be very isolated who is still a impact player on the PP. he was healthy scratched in playoffs for obvious reasons.

17 Jul 2021 04:52:20
DET: Michael Rasmussen

PHI: Nolan Patrick.

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17 Jul 2021 15:56:56
I like the idea of picking up Patrick but I feel more confident in the less injured Rasmussen to actually hit the upside despite Patrick having the higher ceiling.

I think both teams say no for that kind of thought process.

17 Jul 2021 01:41:41
Confirmed Trade:

Detroit Trades:
2021 Edm 2nd (Pick 52)
Richard Panik (50% retained)

NY Islanders Trade:
Nick Leddy ( 1 year left at 5.5 million )

Thoughts on the deal?

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17 Jul 2021 04:09:34
Kinda reminds me of the Stepan trade the Sens made. Investing in a guy they can hopefully sell for more at the deadline.

17 Jul 2021 04:25:43
Leddy can probably help the younger D Detroit has, and maybe get a 2nd back at deadline.

17 Jul 2021 04:41:19
If his play doesn’t drop off I bet he gets more then a 2nd at deadline. without the expansion draft upcoming the isles don’t trade him that cheap.

17 Jul 2021 15:45:11
That makes sense in my mind. Also this draft is weaker so giving up one of our 3 2nds is not bad in my books and we get out of Panik’s extra year.

Leddy will be with us for a year or less if moved at deadline.

Like an offensive mentor for Seider as he’s strong on defense already that he could probably use insights on how to grow his offensive side of the game.

17 Jul 2021 16:10:35
Ah yes. Totally unbelievable. Why is this post 1-1 lmao.

17 Jul 2021 17:59:14
I'm expecting his stats to drop some, going from islanders to red wings. But mostly a team drop, and not his actual play. Though he'll probably look worse on the eyeball test, as trotz's system was great for him.

16 Jul 2021 21:51:36
If Washington thinks they’ll lose Vancek to Seattle.

EDM - Koskinen (50% retained, 2.25M), 2023 3rd, 2021 4th

WAS - Vanecek

They’ll get a veteran backup capable of being a 1B. Oilers could replace one of the picks with a defense prospect, Kemp/ Kesselring.

The same trade could be made for Kahkonen in Minnesota if they choose to protect Talbot.

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17 Jul 2021 04:09:56
Or they could just protect Vanacek?

17 Jul 2021 04:21:28
Doubt Washington would take Koskinen even at 2.25 mill, if they did, the cost would be higher than a 3rd and a 4th. The picks by themselves might be able to do it, although maybs it needs to be a 2nd like a lot of other deals have been?

17 Jul 2021 13:59:25
Then they’d lose Samsanov. Koskinen at 2.25M has value IMO. These other deals were a 2nd going to the team trading away the contract. If it were comparable to the other deals it would look more like Vanecek, 2nd/ 3rd for Koskinen full cap.

17 Jul 2021 19:36:43
Shoulda added Adin Hill to the list of goalies in that value range/ availability.

19 Jul 2021 14:00:26
Koskinen and his contact are a liability, not an asset. To dump that ridiculous deal you need a major sweetener.

16 Jul 2021 21:35:25
Trade mariner to Seattle for 2 first round picks and a 2nd.

Then sign landeskog and Hamilton for 8 million times 6 years.
They should have enough cap room with hyman leaving and who ever Seattle takes from them and Mariners miney.

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17 Jul 2021 11:18:51
Why not deal reilly elsewhere too and sign hyman aswell. we won't need him with:

muzzin-hamilton
sandin-brodie
dermott/ liljgren/ holl/ bogo/ whoever we decide will play on a cheap contract.

I agree that landeskog would be an amazing heart and soul addition, but not at the 8m he wants. hymans want that 8 year security because his body is wearing down. but teams only want shorter 5yr max deals due to the cap issues. ill actuallly not be surp[rised if some big names hold out from free agency before signing short term maybe better waters next year situation like taylor hall did.

17 Jul 2021 12:25:58
Let me understand this. landeskog, who you have said would have a lot of heart and soul, you won't pay 8 million. yet you are paying someone 11 million for no heart and soul.

17 Jul 2021 12:52:04
Just a TAD much for Marner. TWO FIRSTS? lol.

17 Jul 2021 13:01:37
Balsam with that logic pat Maroon is worth 11mil @Balsam. Don’t want to see Landy of Hamilton on leafs would rather target jones.

17 Jul 2021 14:46:43
we have a left shot jones already in reilly, hamilton brings a difference presence, skill set, and a tad more physicality. the definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing and expect a different result. since he's verbally commited himself to the front 4, change needs to happen on the back end. hamilton is a solid balance between muzzin physicality, and reilly offensive prowess.

17 Jul 2021 16:21:45
I said 8 for landesgog only because of nylanders money. Yes he's a bit older but has so many elements to his game, he fights hits and will produce the same points as willy maybe even more.

And the two firsts for mariner would only make sense to an expansion team. They won't find a player like mRner in the next few drafts.

19 Jul 2021 14:03:21
Marner is a 6-7M player. TOPS!

To trade Marner you'd need to hold back 4M or throw in picks to make a Marner deal remotely possible.

16 Jul 2021 20:05:11
Calgary trades:
Mikeal Backlund

Seattle trades:
2021 3rd round pick
and takes Milan Lucic in the expansion draft


Maybe Calgary needs to retain some salary or maybe it needs to be Monahan instead of Backlund.

Thoughts?

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17 Jul 2021 20:59:15
I would do it. Re sign Ryan, or let Dube center the 3rd line. What to do with all the extra cap space is the real question.

18 Jul 2021 05:08:17
That'd put Calgary around 23-24 mil in total cap space.

Trade Zary and the 12th overall for Reinhart if he can come to a prearranged agreement with the Flames to resign with them. Say 5 or 6 years at around 7 mil/ yr.

Sign Zack Hyman for around 5x5 or 4x5.5. If he wants much more than that in either term or salary forget it.

That'd leave another 11-12 mil for a good backup goalie, another decent player in the 4-5 mil/ yr range and to fill a few holes in the bottom 6 with value contracts and/ or kids from Stockton.

Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk
Hyman - Backlund/ Monahan - Reinhart

Hyman and Tkachuk could swap spots if Hyman (a right shot) can play RW as well as he plays LW. If so the 2nd line might be better deployed like this too:

Monahan - Reinhart - Hyman

I've often wondered if Monahan might not be better at LW than at center. He's more of a goal scorer than a playmaker anyhow.

Ruzicka should be ready to center the 4th line now or maybe Zary will impress in camp enough to get a chance. I think Ryan will sign with Seattle but Dube is an option. Who knows maybe Dube is another Bennett being misused plugging holes on his off wing and bouncing all around the lineup instead of being given a chance to settle in at center. There's always Gawdin too, he should be able to handle 4th line center but doesn't have the upside the others do.

20 Jul 2021 20:06:49
You can't use Zary as a player you fill next season as you trade him to the sabers for Sam reinhart.

16 Jul 2021 15:53:43
NYI: Bellows, Ladd, Hickey, Komarov, 2022 1st, 2023 2nd

DET: Future Considerations

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17 Jul 2021 01:44:40
I don’t mind the premise behind this just not wowed.

Don’t know much about Hickey recently, seems like a fringe bottom paid Dman.

Bellows, 1st and 2nd are nice pieces but taking Ladd and Komarov is a lot.

Also would much rather a Defense or Centre prospect instead of Bellows because we have wingers.

Good thought but feels like tweaking to meet needs and adjust value a bit.

16 Jul 2021 14:28:18
CBJ: Seth Jones

CHI: Kirby Dach + Adam Boqvist + Ian Mitchell.

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16 Jul 2021 15:23:50
Absolutely not from Chicago. They should walk away when they hear the name Dach, Boqvist or Debrincat.

16 Jul 2021 15:36:41
I’m not even sure if I’d give Ian Mitchell for 1 year of Jones.

 


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