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06 Jul 2024 19:49:22
Toronto, Robertson
Dallas, 6th round pick
Toronto, Lilljegren
San Jose, 7th round pick
Toronto, Kempf
Anaheim, future considerations.
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07 Jul 2024 05:17:10
Nice to see a realistic Robertson and Lilly trade on here for a changeđ.
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07 Jul 2024 14:05:17
Anaheim says no.
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07 Jul 2024 16:04:27
Lily will be 2nd pair with OEL.
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06 Jul 2024 16:12:39
Detroit Trades
Rasmussen
SJ Trades
Granland
Thoughts ?
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06 Jul 2024 18:35:43
I doubt Detroit has any interest in Granland, and do seem to like Rasmussen. Zero chance this happens.
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06 Jul 2024 19:53:20
lago
With Detroit having resigned Patrick Kane and signing Tarasenko at RW, and Raymond and DeBrincat on LW, they have a great top 6 at Wing but besides Larkin they need a second line Centre, Granlund would fit perfectly on the top 6 as for Rasmussen Detroit has Copp, Motte, Compher that fill the same type of player, I have to disagree with you about Detroit not wanting Granlund.
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06 Jul 2024 21:54:03
Granland is not an upgrade at #2C over Compher. Nope, no thank you.
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06 Jul 2024 22:05:06
lago
Granland adds to the top 6 and Compher drops to the 3rd line with Copp making Detroit better overall, my proposal keeps Compher on Detroit not trading him away.
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07 Jul 2024 03:15:40
Rasmussen is a 25 year old drafted and developed 6 foot 6 top 9 forward whose signed for 3 more years after this for a $3.2m aav.
He's significantly better for his role compared to 32 year old Granlund, a $5m pending UFA playing on his 3rd NHL team in the last 2 years.
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07 Jul 2024 03:20:19
I'll take Rasmussen over Granland every day and twice on Sunday. Don't want Granland, don't need Granland, he adds zero to the Red Wings.
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07 Jul 2024 04:32:53
lago
So Detroit doesn't want almost a point a game Centre in Granlund?
Detroit has plenty of prospects the reason Kane and Tarasenko were signed because The Red Wings are ready to take the next step, is Detroit better this upcoming season with Rasmussen or Granland?
That's actually an easy answer.
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07 Jul 2024 13:29:15
Yes, it is.
Rasmussen - 25 years old, 6'6", 220lb, Cap hit $3.2M
Detroits most physical forward
Granland - 32 years old, 5'10", 185lb, Cap hit $5M
No upgrade over Compher, pushes Detroit
over the salary Cap after Seider, Raymond,
Veleno and Bergrren are signed, causing the
need for another salary dump.
No thank you. But I will propose this - To Detroit, Granland,
$2M retained, to SJ, Husso, no retention.
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08 Jul 2024 14:43:53
You're way out of your depth pretending to know anything about the Red Wings pinball.
If Granlund is so good maybe you should offer Liljegren and Robertson for him to the Leafs. :)
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06 Jul 2024 14:43:03
WPG
McGoarty
TOR
Robertson
WPG
Ehlers
BOS
Poitras
Frederic
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06 Jul 2024 14:55:24
Winnipeg isn't selling that low on McGroarty.
Boston isn't trading Poitras.
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06 Jul 2024 16:20:12
Donât you think itâs hard to properly grade someone (McGoarty) who has never played in the NHL?
What is his value?
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06 Jul 2024 18:10:40
He's a top prospect that is in high demand, so he must be pretty good.
Are you contending that all of the 24 draft picks have little value because they haven't played in the NHL yet? I think NHL GM's disagree with you.
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06 Jul 2024 19:04:13
That is NOT what I was implying. What I was saying is that itâs really hard to put proper value on players that never played in the NHL. That doesnât mean they have no to little value! Think about Patrik Stefan went first overall or Yakupov or Daigle. Highly valued prospects. But didnât amount to what was expected or thought they would.
I do think McGoartyâs game and style will translate well in the NHL. But there is no guarantee.
He is a high rated prospect. So trading him would be hard, cause value. How does he value to other teams. What are they going to give up? What are the Jets expecting to get?
I throw trades out in here for fun. Thatâs it.
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06 Jul 2024 19:51:10
Okay. Well you asked, so I wasn't sure. He'd be evaluated just like any other prospect so it seemed like a superfluous comment to rationalize your offers.
The Jets will either look for a similar aged and skilled prospect or a young NHL ready player that fills a need.
We'll probably need to wait until at least the TDL to find out.
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06 Jul 2024 20:43:18
One way to gauge a players value if youâre not overly familiar with them is Capfriendly.
McGroarty isnât on there yet since heâs not under contract, but Robertson is, and heâs rated as a 79 / 3rd liner.
Given that McGroarty is highly sought after, you could reasonably assume you wouldnât get him with Robertson.
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06 Jul 2024 20:59:57
Thanks Chickenfoot.
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07 Jul 2024 05:20:23
Have a good one Muzzađ.
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06 Jul 2024 14:31:38
Carolina Trades
Necas
Winnipeg Trades
Ehlers
Makes sense to me for both teams.
Thoughts ?
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06 Jul 2024 14:57:19
I don't think Chevy will use his best trade chip for two years of a player that is a lateral move and will be more expensive than Ehlers next year.
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06 Jul 2024 15:49:44
I think WPG would have to add. But I also think Necas next contract would be higher than Ehlers. So as a financial standpoint, I think WPG would decline.
Even tho it would be nice addition for WPG.
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06 Jul 2024 01:43:24
Chicago: athanasiou (50%) soderblom, 2025 2nd... Edmonton: kane, broberg
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06 Jul 2024 02:28:19
I would have no interest in Kane.
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06 Jul 2024 00:01:13
Parayko, Neighbours & conditional 1st for Marner.
Kulak to Flames for a late pick & mid prospect.
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06 Jul 2024 03:13:20
No from flames. Let a kid play
To much for marner 2 high quality muckers and a first for a fringe player. I would say nope from a St. Louis perspective.
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06 Jul 2024 21:43:48
I actually like the St. Louis one. Parayko would be a perfect get and neighbours looks like heâs going to be a stud.
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05 Jul 2024 23:52:36
Carolina Hurricanes :
- Martin Necas
Winnipeg Jets :
- Nikolaj Ehlers
Sounds like the Canes are aggressively pursuing Ehlers.
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06 Jul 2024 00:41:18
Winnipeg adds, necas is 5 years young, and also plays center. Ehlers is LW only, which is an actual need for carolina.
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06 Jul 2024 01:04:24
I can't see Winnipeg just making a lateral move when they trade Ehlers. It's only 2 years of control for Necas and his next contract will certainly be more than Ehlers contract next year.
It just doesn't make sense for Winnipeg.
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05 Jul 2024 03:37:32
Maybe Oilers would be willing to switch kulak with Kane⌠that would give them 5.1 million extra plus prices ltir
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05 Jul 2024 12:40:14
- Kane would be a little trickier where he has a NMC, and two years left on a bigger salary.
- Kane probably doesnât want to go to a rebuilding team like MTL.
- With his reputation, Kane will also be a more challenging player to get other teams interested. MTL has a lot of young players and may not want that kind of influence and conflict in their room.
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04 Jul 2024 18:11:15
EDM:
- 2025 2nd
- 2026 1st
- Kulak
MTL:
- Carey Price contract (2 years left @ 10.5M)
. EDM gets 2 years of major LTIR space to help with the last year of the James Neal buyout plus the first two years of the Campbell buyout. (3.016M this coming season, and 2.3M next season.)
. EDM sheds the final two years of Kulak to become cap compliant before the new season, with a chance to upgrade via trade with the extra cap space.)
. MTL absorbs the Kulak deal with an eye on flipping him for a pick or prospect before camp.
. MTL doesn't require the Price contract's LTIR space at this point in their rebuild, and turns it into assets for the future.
. Price has already said he's cool with MTL flipping his contract for assets if required.
. If EDM doesn't want to pay the price, a team like VGK, VCR or FLA will be tempted.
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04 Jul 2024 22:35:57
Montreal would be the scummiest team to trade LTIR for assets. On top of the disservice it does to Price.
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04 Jul 2024 23:37:56
CROZIER: not sure how closely you follow hockey, but MTL would hardly be the first team to trade an LTIR contract. A few off the top of my head would include Zetterberg, Pronger and Datsyuk.
Chris Pronger even made a joke about his HHOF induction saying that he might go in as a Coyoteđ
As for Price, heâs already said heâd be cool with it, which I already mentioned. Hereâs his exact quote:
âEverybody here knows hockey is a business, and money management and cap space is part of that, â Price said. âIâm going to be a Montreal Canadien for the rest of my life and Iâm very proud of that. Iâm willing to help this team in any aspect, whatever the team has to do. If they have to move money to make this team better, Iâm here to help in any way I can. â.
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05 Jul 2024 12:17:16
This trade only saves the oilers the 2.75M of Kulaks contract. Being over the cap from LTIR isnât a benefit to teams, it makes it so you donât accumulate cap space throughout the season. Easy no from Oil.
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05 Jul 2024 12:18:44
I like the idea of this Chickenfoot.
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05 Jul 2024 12:59:48
EBS: trading a contract like Kulak would let EDM start the season compliant, and therefore max out the LTIR benefit in-season and acquire additional salary as they will likely want to do.
Hereâs a link to the TAM-DET trade of Zetterbergâs LTIR cap hit that is helpful in understanding the very real cap benefits for EDM.
A 1st and 2nd is a steep price, but one a Cup contender like EDM would definitely consider very worthwhile, especially given the combined buyout cap hits of Neal & Cambell in this crucial upcoming season.
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06 Jul 2024 21:53:09
This trade would take the Oil from say 88.75M down to 86M. And now have 10M on LTIR making it harder for them to accrue cap space and add at the deadline. Theyâd only lose 2.75M in salary counting towards the cap. They donât gain 10M from Price. There is no chance theyâd trade a 1st and 2nd to dump Kulak. Kulak isnât a bad contract.
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04 Jul 2024 04:55:49
Chicago: Kaiser and Murphy. Philly: konecny
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04 Jul 2024 16:09:30
I'd do it.
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03 Jul 2024 23:59:16
Montreal trades with jets 2 scenarios
1:
Montreal sends
Harris, Barron, beck , Dvorak , Anderson
To Winnipeg for
Ehlers and McGroarty
2:
Mtl sends Harris or Barron, Anderson and Calgary/Florida 1st round (top 10 protected)
To Winnipeg for McGroarty
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04 Jul 2024 03:09:50
You're not going to be able to dump Anderson and Dvorak without paying to do so and it won't be to Winnipeg.
Puck Pedia's dump calculator puts dumping Anderson at the 13 OA pick and Dvorak at 35 OA. So, keep adding you don't have enough to dump either.
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04 Jul 2024 13:03:42
not sure i am sold on a guy who is already wanting out of a place he got drafted (Lindros relation? ) . plus the second trade is an overpay.
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04 Jul 2024 16:41:05
The Jets have enough bottom pairing d-men and 4/ 5th line forwards of their own. The Jets would want less poor offered quantity of players and would want one top level player for Ehlers and McG.
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04 Jul 2024 17:35:43
MTL declines as well.
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06 Jul 2024 19:43:58
This trade in particular looks more like a MTL salary dump. With Dvorak and Anderson included.
Maybe do a Barron & Beck for McGoarty.
But I donât See MTL doing any of this.
McGoartyâs style would look good in Habs top six tho.
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