NHL rumours 3

23 Nov 2023 03:21:34
Chicago Trades
CMurphy*

Toronto Trades
Brodie+
Reaves
Voit (AHL)
1st Round Pick 2024

*Chicago retains 50% of CMurphy's remaining contract

+Brodie would have to accept the trade having a NTC in his contract.


Leafs are in a position of having to shed contract if they want to improve in other areas, this would do that and also give them a tougher Brodie type in CMurphy who shoots Right and would fit nicely with Rielly.

Black Hawks are in stage 1 of their rebuild and adding a 1st Rounder and a pretty good prospect in Voit would seal a proposal like this, plus Reaves on the team gives Bedard even more protection, Brodie obviously replaces CMurphy and could be flipped at the trading deadline for more future assets.



Thoughts ?

23 Nov 2023 12:39:50
Idk, I feel like the Hawks could get a better offer that meets their needs if they were to trade Murphy with 50% retention.

23 Nov 2023 17:48:22
Terrible for Toronto. Reaves' contract was not worth our best defensive dman a 1st and a decent prospect. Murphy is needed but Brodie is not the player to trade.

25 Nov 2023 21:43:23
Brodie is better then Murphy. How about Morgan Rielly instead of Brodie?

Brodie carry’s the leafs defence on his back and won’t be moved. Without Mathews the leafs have Tavares but without Brodie the leafs have no elite defensive dman. He is truly the most valuable player to the leafs system.

22 Nov 2023 23:29:49
Mtl - montembault-ylonen-col 2nd pick

Edm- Campbell 25%retain-bourgault-holloway-bourgault

23 Nov 2023 02:47:01
No thanks. I like Montembault. Maybe switch him for Allen.

22 Nov 2023 21:28:59
Van deals Tyler Myers (25% retained), Jett Woo, Guillame Brisebois

NJ Devils deal Kevin Bahl, Alex Holtz

22 Nov 2023 21:22:08
VAN deals A. Kuzmenko, Nils Aman and Linus Karlsson, 2024 2nd round pick

CBJ deals David Jiricek and Kent Johnson

23 Nov 2023 12:41:18
Not a chance Columbus does that

21 Nov 2023 16:03:18
Sorry didn't realize cap wise it pry wouldn't work for Detroit here's revised.

Detroit - patrick laine
Columbus - andrew copp 1 million retain Marco kasper 2nd 24.

21 Nov 2023 23:11:05
Take away the retention then it’s closer but I feel like with Debrincat Laine doesn’t make sense.

21 Nov 2023 16:00:12
Detroit-patrick laine 5th 24.
Columbus- Marco kasper 1st 25

21 Nov 2023 09:49:18
TOR - 2024 1st, Fraser Minten & John Klingberg

CGY - Chris Tanev (50% Retained)


Toronto receives one of the better defensive defensemen in the league and dump Klingberg which saves themselves about 1.9mil in cap space.


Morgan Rielly - TJ Brodie
Mark Giordano - Chris Tanev
Jake McCabe - William Lagesson

21 Nov 2023 15:10:19
Hmmm, the late 1st is for retaining. to take klingberg would cost Toronto stuff they don't have and a calgary - Toronto trade would have to be for equal money. If Toronto gets tanev at 50%, that's a 1st. To take klingberg leafs would have to add minten and a 3rd just for teams like sj and Chicago would be interested.

21 Nov 2023 23:12:56
Klingberg will not be traded.

22 Nov 2023 20:37:38
Nobodies taking klingberg, he stinks.

21 Nov 2023 09:42:30
EDM - Jack Campbell, Dylan Holloway, 2024 1st & 2024 2nd

CGY - Jacob Markstrom


Markstrom has been of the bright spots for the Flames this season but they should be selling and retooling for next season. The price would be slightly higher due to the Oilers obviously being their biggest rival and they’d likely have to overpay.

Oilers get a capable goaltender and shed a bad contract while the Flames grab futures.

Jack Campbell ( 5.00 @ 4 UFA )
Jacob Markstrom ( 6.00 @ 3 UFA )

21 Nov 2023 11:31:10
Markstrom is eons better than Campbell, but also most put his contract near Campbells as one of the worst goalie deals in the league.

21 Nov 2023 18:19:51
I’d way rather buyout Campbell and use those assets to land a better goalie.

21 Nov 2023 22:19:42
@Ebsolutely fair but the Oilers will still have a goaltending situation and their window is closing. Draisaitl's big raise in 2 years, then McDavid's raise the next year is gonna be harder to build around. That's why their window is now.

21 Nov 2023 23:13:45
The likely scenario is Campbell is bought out.

21 Nov 2023 09:36:36
SJS : Marc-Edouard Vlasic

EDM : Jack Campbell, 2024 2nd & Warren Foegele


Oilers take back a higher AAV but shed a year and acquire a serviceable defensemen.
Vlasic ( 7.00 @ 3 UFA ) - $21mil
Campbell ( 5.00 @ 4 UFA ) - $20mil


Oilers D-Core :

Mattias Ekholm - Evan Bouchard
Darnell Nurse - Marc-Edouard Vlasic
Brett Kulak - Cody Ceci

21 Nov 2023 18:23:35
That’s a really interesting one. I don’t see much of a plus for San Jose to make the trade. But how about retain on Vlasic, take Foegele out and add a higher pick? Also need to watch Vlasic play because isn’t he getting healthy scratched?

21 Nov 2023 22:22:29
@Ebsolutely I was gonna do the exact same thing but I changed it last minute. damn lol
It was originally Campbell + 1st + Bourgault for Vlasic (2mil retained)

22 Nov 2023 01:55:09
If Vlasic can play top 4 minutes then I think that’s a really solid trade. Maybe find a way to add Blackwood.

20 Nov 2023 22:53:36
Calgary trades Hanifin and Vladar to Leafs for Nylander and Minten.

Leafs get a quality defenseman and a decent young goalie, both of which are badly needed.
Flames get Calgary born Nylander and and a prospect

20 Nov 2023 23:47:33
Fair exchange of value, and the leafs definitely need help on D and in the net. Treliving obviously knows what Hanifin and Vladar can bring too.

However, if CGY is going to tear it down (as they should) they’re probably not as keen on a pending UFA like Nylander.

Perhaps this trade proposal could form the basis to bring a 3rd team in who could give CGY more of what they need: picks and prospects. (i. e. Hanifin would look great in a lot of places, and NJ has the ability to make this work. 👍)

21 Nov 2023 01:02:34
Lol the leafs aren’t moving there franchise player who surpassed Mathews for a fringe number 4 dman and a backup goalie who’d be lost on waivers immediately.

21 Nov 2023 11:32:20
They’ll sign Nylander. I hate the leafs but he’s insane.

21 Nov 2023 14:31:12
@vbbbbbbbbm

Then I guess the Leafs should either sign Nylander to a 12 million dollar deal, or move Matthews.
Maybe they could try move Marner, but that would be a lot of retention and Tavares isn't going anywhere.
Welcome to the team that refuses to address defense and goaltending, so they can have 4 forwards making about 55% of cap.

21 Nov 2023 18:00:00
VB. Hanifin #2 d on leafs defence core. I agree not worth Nylander.

21 Nov 2023 23:19:48
Is he number 2 on the leafs? Probably is. It’d be between him or Brodie who’s quietly been having a great season Hanfin would be the better 2 way guy but Brodie is better in his own end. But on the last few cup teams he’d be number 4

Tampa- Hedman, McDonagh, Serg
Colorado- Towes, Makar, Byram
Vegas- Theodore, Pietrangelo, McNabb ( unreal in his own end )

I actually think he’d be the number #7 dman on Carolina assuming DeAngelo stays for the PP.

19 Nov 2023 23:34:35
EDM - Jack Campbell, 2024 1st, Philip Broberg & Xavier Bourgault
ARZ - Matt Dumba


Leon Draisaitl - Connor McDavid - Zach Hyman
Evander Kane - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Dylan Holloway
Warren Foegele - Ryan McLeod - Connor Brown
James Hamblin - Derek Ryan - Sam Gagner

Mattias Ekholm - Evan Bouchard
Darnell Nurse - Matt Dumba
Brett Kulak - Cody Ceci

Stuart Skinner
Calvin Pickard

20 Nov 2023 02:42:17
3 assets to undo the Campbell signing would be an incredibly steep price to pay…but I can definitely see your point.

20 Nov 2023 08:53:24
@Chickenfoot yeah, I've been seeing Campbell get lit up in the AHL and thought it'd probably take a bit. I only see Edmonton doing this because they're in win now and getting a RHD back but it's definitely a steep price. Poor Campbell, got to feel for the guy.

20 Nov 2023 10:46:39
Agreed.

It’s hard to imagine how it came to this, especially since EDM has such a history of dealing with bad contracts and buyouts over the years. Everyone knew of Campbell’s mental fragility if they’ve watched any post-game interviews with him following a loss, especially in the playoffs.

The Nurse contract is also a debacle. It’s time to explode the myth of paying “the EDM tax”, and overpaying players to attract or retain them. Under a cap everyone has the same $ to spend, and you can’t win a cup with multiple bad contracts on your roster.

20 Nov 2023 13:16:14
Does Dumba make the oilers?