NHL rumours 3

04 Jan 2025 16:19:58
If Austin Matthews is put on the shelf for the rest of the regular season I have a proposal that I can see happening.

NYRangers Trade
Zibanejad

Toronto Trades
Minton (AHL)
2nd Round Pick 2025


Considering what The Rangers have traded away and got for Trouba and Kakko this is about right for Zibanejad imo.

This will give The Leafs the centre they are looking to acquire as Zibanejad check marks everything.

Rangers obviously tearing some things down helps them Cap wise and more prospects for the future.



Thoughts ?

04 Jan 2025 17:27:55
I think we should keep minten and trade Cowen.

04 Jan 2025 18:23:10
Hrenklin
If you are The Rangers do you want Minton or Cowan?
Leafs would have more Centre depth adding Zibanejad compared to RW is why Minton from both Teams makes the most sense, Cowan is still a higher prospect than Minton is imo, can't go by that tournament he is going to be I believe a star player in the end.

05 Jan 2025 03:30:20
Cowan's stock went down drastically after the tournament. For a returning player he looked so out of place. Hopefully he can regain some form in the back half of the season and get his stock up.

As for the trade I don't think the Rangers have entered into a complete fire sale yet and even if they do I doubt Zibby is one to go. You don't sign your franchise goalie to that type of money and then trade a guy like Zibby who keeps you somewhat competitive. NYR is in shambles though so who knows.

05 Jan 2025 05:57:26
How does Toronto fit Zibanejad contract in, when everyone is healthy?

Please try again

Toronto needs forward depth and Defence more than anything.

05 Jan 2025 13:52:46
BumbleBeeTuna18
This can only happen if Matthews is injured enough to go on LTIR for the regular season, in the playoffs there is no Cap.
That's how it fits.

04 Jan 2025 14:17:59
Ottawa trades Josh Norris

Nashville trades Ryan O'Reilly

Nashville season is done and they can build to the future with someone that is younger and still has upside.

Ottawa gets the style of player they need to push for the playoffs and a guy you need in the playoffs.

May need to add picks or players to make it happens, but at the core this might be worth it for both teams.

02 Jan 2025 18:01:42
NYR - Zibanejad, Miller, Othmann

VAN - Miller, Desharnais, 2025 3rd.

04 Jan 2025 12:57:02
Not sure Vancouver want zibanejad, but seems pretty fair.

04 Jan 2025 14:09:25
Nice one EBS🤜. This seems especially well thought out.

NYR are committed to a making big moves, and whether they realize it yet or not, they’ve poisoned the well with their players and prospects, as well as their reputation around the league. Nothing will change until their ownership changes. James Dolan has the impulse control of a rat on fire running through a meth lab.

VCR is a team that is not afraid of making a big move, and they certainly have their own reasons for wanting to shake things up. If there’s a way they can rid themselves of Pettersson rather than Miller, they should. Unfortunately for them I think the rest is the league is rightfully wary of adding such an expensive, over-sensitive, whiner.

02 Jan 2025 15:37:08
DET Sends: Compher, Bergrenn, Gustafson, Mazur, Wallinder, 1st 2026, 2nd 2025.

BUF Sends: Cozens, Byram, 5th 2025/2026.

02 Jan 2025 17:06:21
While I'd absolutely love to see Detroit rid themselves of the Compher and Gustafson contracts, I don't believe this trade is doable.

A trade package for either Cozens or Byram is probably starting with Kasper or Danielson going to the Sabres.

02 Jan 2025 18:48:12
DET adds Kane instead of Gustafson.

01 Jan 2025 15:57:47
Detroit Trades
PKane*

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
Kampf
1st Round Pick 2026

*Detroit retains 50% of PKane's expiring contract.


Detroit looking for possible assets in trading PKane on an expiring contract and would get this in my proposal.

Toronto would solidify the Top 9 adding PKane and help for their playoff run.



Thoughts ?

01 Jan 2025 18:55:17
There's nothing in it for Detroit, they have to wait a year for the first, retain and take a cap dump with term. They can easily get better.

01 Jan 2025 19:23:03
I doubt Detroit has any interest in Kampf or Robertson. A 2026 1st for Kane might be OK, but Toronto would need to add to get Detroit to takethose 2. No thank you.

01 Jan 2025 22:51:54
memarcusjoe and lago
What do you really believe Detroit can get for PKane when he was traded away for pretty much nothing a few years back?

02 Jan 2025 00:34:09
We've been over this already. The difference between now and 2022 is that back in 2022 Kane would only allow a trade to the Rangers which limited that the return was for Chicago.

Even in 2025 Kane is worth more than the two Leafs forwards you have the least respect for and a late 2026 1st round pick, especially at 50% off.

If you know the Red Wings are looking for possible assets by trading Kane, try including some possible assets.

02 Jan 2025 14:37:10
Wow. Kampf & Robertson offered up yet again. I didn't see THAT coming. I'm sure we'll see it many, many more times.

Kane is the wrong target for a leaf team desperate to escape the first round. Full respect to the player he was, but he just doesn't seem like he'd be a Craig Berube player in 2025.

02 Jan 2025 14:57:52
2 weeks ago Kampf was worth more than Hathaway because hes a center even though he only had 3 assists at that time.

Now he has 2 goals and an assist for 6 points, and he's worth less than he was worth 2 weeks ago. He had to be packaged with Robertson and a 1st round pick in hopes of getting a winger at 50% off.

Even though you swore up and down 2 weeks ago that centers have more value than wingers.

Just more proof that you belong on the spectrum Pinball.

02 Jan 2025 17:10:26
DrwDave
You are really comparing Hathaway to PKane?
I am actually laughing right now with that comment.

02 Jan 2025 17:24:16
delete reply.

02 Jan 2025 17:35:59
Im comparing your evaluation of Kampf based on 2 trade proposals you made 2 weeks apart.

2 weeks ago you argued that Kampf (with only 3 assists) was worth more than Hathaway (depth winger) because centers are worth more than wingers.

Today you think that Kampf (with 2 goals and 4 assists) is only worth Kane (depth winger) when he's packaged with Robertson (depth winger) and a late 1st round pick.

So which one are you going to admit you're wrong about, Kampfs trade value today or Kampfs trade value 2 weeks ago?

Either way Kampf isn't waiving his clause to be traded from a team at the top of the division to a team near the bottom of the division.

Hopefully one day you'll have some respect for the depth players on your favorite team and stop trying to desperately trade them for everything and nothing at the same time.

05 Jan 2025 06:00:51
HALARIOUS!

50% off kane for a first round pick. Assuming that he helps them get past the second round, that first round pick will be close to a high end second round.

💩.

29 Dec 2024 17:59:27
tor: neimela, 2nd,

Buf: krebs


this is kiinda like a vulture circleing a corpse. he doesnt wow with points, but hes solid on the faceoff circle, and not afraid to throw the body and controlled thru next season at 1.4m.

30 Dec 2024 00:08:38
Don’t think he’s worth a 2nd. Guys like him are on the wire every couple of weeks. Definitely not an upgrade on Kampf imo atleast defensively/ PK.

29 Dec 2024 17:52:57
tor: cowen

CLB: marchenko, 2026 4th (tor)


this is a selling high on cowen. marchenko is still young, huge, and skilled while still signed for 2 more years at 3.85m. this is the kinda move I want to see the leafs make this year.

we still dont see what cowen will become at the nhl level. but marchenko looks like he belongs, and could also alleviate the potential of loosing marner.

30 Dec 2024 00:09:01
Marchenko is worth more then Cowen.

01 Jan 2025 14:26:39
based on his World junior play, Toronto definitely has to add more.

02 Jan 2025 00:41:02
Awful time for anyone to look at acquiring Marchenko from the Jackets cause he's playing some great hockey right now.

Cowan is playing awful and we would be selling low on him. I'm hopeful he gets it together after the WJs but he's looked awful in the tournament this far.

28 Dec 2024 19:15:14
Montreal has to think about trading evans and then resigning him this offseason, I think he could be the most sought after trade to any contenders …2 options
1st option
Mtl trades with Washington
Evans and a 2nd round
To Washington for Ryan Leonard
Out of respect to ovi caps have to go all in now
Option2
Jake evans
To devils for nemec

28 Dec 2024 21:59:28
Only Montreal considers those deals.

29 Dec 2024 02:36:39
Habs wouldn't get either of those top prospects for Evans. Best thing for Habs I think is try and keep him for 4-5 seasons. Don't risk losing him. He's a valuable bottom 6 player that when needed can play top 6 for injury relief as well as a great penalty killer .

29 Dec 2024 12:37:23
Nemec would require a serious package to even get NJ to consider it.

Evan’s will be traded, but it’s unlikely he’ll be re-signed by the Habs. His agent will rightly cash in on the season he’s had, but the challenge will be living up to the AAV he’ll earn. He’s a really good addition to any team, but every player has to slot in at the right cap hit.

30 Dec 2024 13:07:43
You think very highly on Evan's. He'll get a 3rd and a lower prospect.

01 Jan 2025 15:12:37
I suspect a trade for Evans will look similar to, but slightly better, than the Lehkonen trade that made with Carolina when they received a prospect and a 2nd.

Evans is on a 20+ goal pace, is a center who is good in the dot, defensively responsible, and he’s a pending UFA on a cheap deal.

Though it’s possible the Habs could keep him, it’s more likely they trade him. His value will never be higher, and it’s also likely the salary he’ll rightly earn as a UFA will exceed what should be paid a bottom 6 center, even one that can play up in a lineup.

Happy New Year one and all🍾.

26 Dec 2024 21:25:12
Let's go big!
MacEvoy for Leon D.

Who says no?

27 Dec 2024 16:59:15
Everyone……lol.

30 Dec 2024 13:11:14
One of the most lopsided trades I've seen on here. Top 3 forward in the world for an above average defenseman. boston throws in a couple 1sts and boston best 2 prospects.

22 Dec 2024 16:44:16
Food for thought.

Some may think this menu sucks and the food ain't worth the bite.

What really bites is Matthews' injuries and for me anyways I would trade platters in order to...

1- gain center help

2- gain two players that can both collect as many points and contribute (if not more) as we'd be giving up.

3-add leadership and playoff knowledge galore


Trade:
c-Auston Matthews -$13,250,000
c-Easton Cowen - $904,667

For:
Sidney Crosby - $8,700,000
Evgeni Malkin - $6,100,000


Yes, it is a fantasy and somewhat unbeilavable considering the magnitude of a big dealio like this.

But, if all three parties of players and gms accepted this, I myself as a Leaf fan would re-adjust for a two year window thinking we are better off capturing a cup with this trade.

Merry Christmas All ( good thing for the trade freeze or this may have been done already lol)

22 Dec 2024 23:43:51
as great as sid an gino are, we would benefit more from skilled mid ranged players than superstars. players like lehkonen, burokovski, and buchnevich. like serious, if you traded out matthews and kampf. you have enough cap space for all 3 of those players.

23 Dec 2024 12:03:29
Merry Christmas TG!

24 Dec 2024 03:09:28
Hrenklin - You are trying to trade three players from three different teams. Even though I do admire some qualities of hose players mentioned, imo Sid and Geno would still add more for this team right now if Matthews was to be traded.

I cant see a scenario where a team would pick him up, give us a rubbishload of draft picks and cap space in order to scoop three different players from three different teams.


Cros is still clicking and accumulating points while be one of the top notch captains to ever hit the ice and imo would even feel a little refreshed and maybe even hungrier representing the Leafs and able to lead the way. Add Geno also to the line up and the team pretty much balances out 1-4 lines nicely.

Anyways lol Matthews probably would be the one to nix the deal the way I figure it for this dream trade scenario.

24 Dec 2024 15:36:46
Pittsburgh says no thank you.

24 Dec 2024 18:57:46
If trading Matthews I would rather something built around Cozens and Power or Byram. Not sue which side adds but I think that leaves a long term windows open.

22 Dec 2024 06:24:10
EDM - J. Skinner, Kemp, 2025 1st

BOS - Carlo.

22 Dec 2024 15:30:42
Why would Boston consider that? A backup goalie a mid to late first and a 7/ 8 D for a top 4D. What's the reasoning here?

22 Dec 2024 17:35:26
@memarcusjoe no goalie in this deal, that's Jeff Skinner he's purposing. Regardless though Bruins don't bite on it what so ever.

22 Dec 2024 17:43:25
Ah got ya'. I forgot about that Skinner. That makes it even worse.

22 Dec 2024 21:16:12
Stu skinner is a backup? Bruins do it for cap space and draft capital. Kemp ready for some NHL minutes too. What do you think Carlo is getting in a trade? Can’t be that much more than a 1st.

22 Dec 2024 21:42:27
Carlo as a top 4 RHD on a good contract for a couple years definitely gets more than a throw away, rental winger with a bad contract and a rental AHL depth defenseman.

22 Dec 2024 22:28:54
Along with the mid to late first.

23 Dec 2024 06:16:15
Ekholm got a late first and a prospect and a worse contract. Kemp is just close to the NHL but could upgrade the prospect.

23 Dec 2024 13:20:31
Ekholm was older, an LHD and Nashville wanted to move him. None of those apply to Carlo.

24 Dec 2024 15:43:50
And he was waaaaaay better. Boston might be in a similar position to Nashville at the deadline if there out of the playoffs. A quick couple year retool and they can be on the rise again.

02 Jan 2025 00:18:51
And why do you say Nashville wanted to move Ekholm? They were also fighting for a playoff spot.