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23 May 2019 00:09:12
Ottawa trades up two spots with Las Vegas and hits the cap floor with the trade.

Ottawa gets - David clarkson contract and 17th overall pick

Las Vegas gets- 19th overall pick

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23 May 2019 00:42:43
to move up 2 spots? really?

23 May 2019 03:10:46
I do not think it is worth it for Ottawa to make this trade. They can sign free agent to reach cap floor and two places is not so very much. They do not get top 10 pick, no.

23 May 2019 04:24:13
any chance alex tuch becomes available to the sens? would love to have him on a line with brady tkachuk and ex teammate Colin white.

23 May 2019 04:58:15
Doesn’t Clarkson only have one more year left? I don’t think they’ll have to pay too much to get a team to take that final year.

23 May 2019 13:29:11
Why is it not have to pay Much to dump clarkson but a first one of their top prospects and a roster player to dump Callahan in a lot of proposals? I think they’ll have a similar cost personally, somewhere in the middle.

24 May 2019 05:09:56
Because Clarkson can be put on LTIR where the cap comes off the books during the season. So he really is just cap for the summer/ if need to reach floor.

24 May 2019 13:41:41
CTC55 but these teams aren’t going to use the cap space once the season starts anyway, and Callahan is a tremendous leader and can actually play a solid 4th line and pk role. if he plays anything like he did after being benched for Tampa he could probably bring back around a mid round pick at the deadline had something like 8 points in 12 games after benching including some big short handed goals.

24 May 2019 18:42:49
Oh no I completely agree with you that they should be under similar cap dump trades. But the reason it’s more likely Clarkson is seen as a better one is for the reason I gave.

25 May 2019 22:03:30
I see it jbs' way from a sens point of view. the sens need someone for the next year or two to go up against the crosby's and mcdavid, not that the player has to be 100% successful. more so that they aren't throwing their 20 year old prospects out there against the top lines kind of thing, would it not be better to have a guy like callahan for one year or a guy that doesn't help at all?

22 May 2019 22:56:49

Eriksson Ek

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22 May 2019 23:34:08
Nope. Nothing there worth moving Trouba for. Unless there is a pretty big add.

23 May 2019 00:37:19
No from Minnesota.

23 May 2019 01:58:32
So you wouldn’t move a pending ufa for a stable top 4 left handed dman (that jets need) and a young 2nd line center (what the jets need/ want)? Ok.

23 May 2019 02:04:33
From the little I’ve seen Ek, he’s going to be a really solid player. If given the chance I think he’d have a breakout season on Winnipeg’s second line.

23 May 2019 03:12:40
Minnesota will probably trade these guys for nothing, oh yes, you will see. They do not trade players, no. They give players away.

23 May 2019 05:01:10
Minnesota would have to add a little. Borodin is a good replacement D and Eriksson Ek is a good prospect that could use a change of scenery. While Trouba is coming off a 50 point season, it’s his first one and there is ZERO guarantee he repeats, WPG isn’t going to get this King’s ransom Jets fans seem to think he will.

23 May 2019 16:42:18
Neither Brodin or Ek are worth Trouba.

23 May 2019 16:45:06
Mertle, Brodin is nice, but only has one year to UFA and Eriksson Ek is more like an average 3C than he is a 2C. So, there is nothing there that catches the Jets attention for an extended Trouba.

23 May 2019 17:03:07
The Jets won't make this trade as they will not trade him within the division and this trade doesn't make the Jets better. Down grading from a 50 point +8 Trouba for an 18 point -15 d-man and a 14 point -7 center doesn't look like an improvement. Trouba will get a better return than this. Chevy isn't going to make a trade like Hall for Larsson.

24 May 2019 04:13:31
I agree that jets shouldn’t trade within the division, but it doesn’t say in the proposal that Trouba is signed and traded or agrees to extend prior to trade, so if it’s for Trouba for one year it’s too much from Minnesota. Brodin is a solid top 4 dman, and will come cheaper than trouba as will Myers so their top 4 stays solid with Stanley still developing. Ek at this point maybe is a good 3c but he’s still young and is progressing into a 2c and with another years experience could be a 2c by next season. Not to mention Minnesota already has dumba as their #1 rhd who is arguably better than Trouba (to anyone who’s not a jets fan on this site) . Doesn’t seem worth it to me for minny.

22 May 2019 19:18:35
WPG: Trouba (resigned), 58th Overall 2019
NYR: 2nd Overall Pick 2019

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22 May 2019 19:36:25
Take out the pick from Winnipeg and add a player/ prospect on the Rangers side and you're close.

22 May 2019 19:59:30
The Jets may take the 2nd overall pick and Lemieux for Trouba.

22 May 2019 20:15:56
Depends on what he signs for. if he is asking for $8M a year i don't think its worth it.

22 May 2019 20:25:18
2nd overall for Laine And Trouba maybe.

22 May 2019 20:28:22
What’s with these stupid Trouba values? He’s not worth the second overall pick +, you Jets fans are even more delusional than Leafs fans now.

22 May 2019 20:50:41
What? . Really? The 2nd overall for Trouba? I think that's way to much for Trouba.

22 May 2019 22:04:48

Come on. That's not even remotely close; 'may take the 2nd Overall and Lemieux', are you for real, they'd jump on Trouba and the 2RP for Kakko, LMAO.

22 May 2019 22:57:35
In all honesty Chevy would piggy back trouba all the way to New York for the 2nd overall pick.

22 May 2019 23:39:47
So, an extended, young #1 RHD will fetch less than he would as a 20 game rental at the TDL? I knew people here are terrible at assessing player values against picks, but this is actually pretty funny.

23 May 2019 00:38:06
I can name 30 dman better then Trouba And 4 on the Predators alone.

23 May 2019 01:32:09
Would you have traded that pick a couple years ago, knowing it was Laine or Matthews for say. I dunno who's comparable . maybe Petro?
Maybe not a good comparison, however, NYR are not going to trade either Hughes or Kakko for Trouba.

23 May 2019 03:05:05
Trouba is such very very good player, yes. We all know this is true. He is so good as the great Morgan Rielly, but only because of injury is he a little behind in development. The numbers are very similar, but the Trouba is one year behind. Next year will be Trouba going to get 60 points. Maybe more. Would Toronto trade Rielly for the 2nd overall pick? I do not think so. Even last summer before this year when Rielly has such great season I do not think Leafs would make this trade. And I do not think Jets make this trade for the same reason. We will see the great Jacob Trouba will break out next season too. He will be the best defenseman for Winnipeg, maybe ever.

23 May 2019 03:26:06
So Kadris worth Stephen Johns but Troubas worth more than Kakko.

Come on bud. The bias is clearly, clesrly showing. Its insane.

23 May 2019 03:47:15
I looked at defenceman rankings, only could find before this season but in one, trouba was ranked 38th and another he was 58th so he must of improved a lot this to be worth a future franchise player.

23 May 2019 04:31:46
You think Trouba would get more than Kakko at the deadline next year? Trouba is good, nobody is denying that. Kakko looks like he could be generational. He’s either going to get traded for less than you think or walk for nothing after next year. Nothing wrong with keeping him and going all in, but it’s a very realistic possibility. Deadline he probably gets a late first and a mid level prospect.

23 May 2019 06:08:52
Yeah at no trade deadline does he get the 2nd overall pick.

23 May 2019 08:01:04
I guess if you guys would trade the rarest position in hockey, a young, proven #1 RHD for a single magic bean, then you are more gutsy than NHL GM's.

I mean a top 5 player has never turned into a bust in the history of hockey, right? I mean you've got Yakupov, Daigle, Wickenheiser, etc. all those guys turned into superstars.

I guess fans would make the trade, as they only see the maximum upside in a draft pick and none of the possible downside. So, the draft pick always achieves his maximum potential with zero negatives for a fan.

But logical thinking like an NHL GM, makes you realize that a single magic bean for a proven commodity isn't much.

23 May 2019 12:53:44
The thing is, Daigle and Yakupov were one time busts.

Last few years you had:
Dahlin/ Svech
Hischier/ Patrick (the one true down year, but everyone knew that going into the draft)
Matthews/ Laine
McDavid/ Eichel
Ekblad/ Reinhart
MacKinnon/ Barkov
Yakupov/ Murray

The one true bust year was way back in 2012. And Hughes an Kakko are two guys who are basically like Matthews/ Laine all over again. If you don’t take Kakko over Trouba, i don't know man.

23 May 2019 13:38:03
Look, with where Winnipeg is in their competitive cycle could they decline? Absolutely. Is Trouba going to get Kakko plus from the Rangers? Absolutely not. Everyone knows draft picks are gambles, but those high picks are the safest ones and Kakko floor is likely still a mid 6 scoring forward, with the ceiling of a generational talent. If Winnipeg knows Trouba is going to walk, and they’ve had contract issues with him in the past, then it’s far from a bad deal, more than they’d likely get from anyone else in a trade right now. Throw in a “proven” bottom 6 F if you want, w/ e. I’d take the elite prospect over a 20 something pick and a guy taken in the second/ third round 3 years ago any day. Proven players are traded for picks/ prospects all the time, and prospects of that status are almost never traded because of their ceiling.

23 May 2019 15:45:48
I think Trouba is good but the bias is over the top here, he is not a #1 RHD put him on any weaker team and he doesn’t do as well. He can’t carry a game like a true #1 RHD. He is great but he’s a #3 D that can slot in as a #2 if need be. But come on in 6 seasons he’s only been healthy for a full season 2 times (he played 81 games one year so I’ll count it) and has only been above 40 points once. So say what you what Winnipeg fans but also know that if he goes to arbitration this year he’s not staying a jet for long and you’ll lose him for nothing next year.

23 May 2019 16:09:49
I guess that's how we can tell that were all fans here. Fans would definitely make that trade, because they can only see the draft pick reaching their maximum potential, nothing less than that. They don't accept the fact that most draft picks don't live up to their pre-draft hype.

While NHL GM's deal in reality. The chances of a winger, as good as Kakko is, ever being as impactful as a proven, extended #1 RHD, the rarest position in hockey, is very, very slim. So, you can't give up that 1 RHD for a single pick, that may or may not ever turn out.

23 May 2019 20:49:20
Well for starters LHD is a rarer position and C is more valuable.

23 May 2019 22:15:08
Trouba has quickly become the best defenseman to ever play. It’s too bad he doesn’t want to play for Winnipeg. Considering he also has had a concussion along with other injuries, wants out and wants big $, I’d say you take the best offer you get and show him the door. If Winnipeg loses Trouba and Myers, the d core will be just as solid as their center depth.
Just curious Zamboni, how is it you text like a scholar when you first came to this site, now you text like English is your 4th language? Did you run into a wall named Jamie Benn just like the Trouba did, yes?

23 May 2019 22:59:55
Calgary traded a 12th overall pick and two 2nd rounders for hamonic and a 4th, not the perfect comparison but maybe something to consider when judging trouba's actual value.

24 May 2019 16:51:52
Harmonic also had 3 years left at under 4 mill a year cap hit. Aside from last year up to that point they had comparable offensive numbers before a potential trade. None of the picks were for the upcoming draft, all at least one draft out, and Calgary got a 4th back. It could be argued that Hamonic actually had more value then than Trouba does now and I’d take Kappo over the 1st and 2 seconds even with the first ending up being Dobson.

22 May 2019 05:12:09
EDM - Lucic (2M retained), 2019 1st (8th)
NYR - Shattenkirk (1M retained), 2019 1st (20th)

Each team swaps bad contracts, obviously Lucic is way worse. The Rangers move up 12 spots into the top 10.

I think if Lucic has salary retained he could be flipped for a mid pick. Not sure exactly sure how much the Oilers would need to retain and how much New York would to flip him.

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22 May 2019 13:52:49
Good trade man.

22 May 2019 15:53:26
interesting ebs nice.

22 May 2019 16:36:48
You messing with me VB? 😱.

22 May 2019 17:17:07
Not bad to be honest. Tough pill to swallow with Lucic and his term but for the next two years he is making 1.6 less giving a bit more of room. I would do it as a Ranger fan.

22 May 2019 18:24:14
This has the makings of a good trade, but I don't think Edmonton would be wise to give up #8 pick to do it though. Perhaps 2019 2nd and 3rd / 2 seconds might make it a done deal.

22 May 2019 20:26:33
You’re crazy if you think a couple 2nd round picks will make a team take Lucic.

22 May 2019 22:06:04
I think cut the retention from Shattenkirk and its good tbh.

Cause Shatty is still a decent enough player. Just not worth his 6.5M, but worth more than Lucic.

Lucic at 4M + #8 for #20 is fair, Shatty isn't negative value, he's just overpaid.

22 May 2019 23:28:56
I think it’s good for both teams even with retained salary on Shattenkurk. Vasili Podkolzin would be an huge add to the rangers.

23 May 2019 00:15:17
I like it alot.

23 May 2019 02:13:42
I’m not really getting your argument TTS. If they both had good contracts then it would be a no way from Edmonton. But neither of them do.
Lucic at 4M doesn’t have that much negative value IMO. At 3M I’d say he actually has decent value as a bottom 6 physical veteran cup winner.
If Shattenkirk is over paid then I’d say he actually does have negative value, just not as much as Lucic.

23 May 2019 03:21:04
Is so very original. But can we afford this? With $2M retained on Lucic plus Shattenkirk at $5.75-$6.75, depending if retention, is makes now $7.75-$8.75 for two years for Shattenkirk. And we drop so many places in the draft.

I do not think is such good trade.

23 May 2019 10:53:59
With the retention I suggested the Oil lose 1.5M in cap space. But they fill a spot on the RD making Russell and his 4M tradeable. They get there puck moving PP guy for a short two year term that’ll be perfect for when all the D prospects are ready.

23 May 2019 12:57:47
Yeah, i was just thinking that Lucic is still the worse player compared to Shatty in general. Cause when both are at full salary, I’d take Shatty, even if you retain 1-2M on Lucic, I’d still take Shatty. Both aren’t great, but Shatty still has a chance to rebound since its not like the game passed him by (in terms of speed) . that's why if NY retains on Shatty and EDM retains a bit more on Lucic, NY gets the far worse player (likely Lucic ends up like Beleskey tbh) .

I did think it was close though. I j don't know if anyone would retain on a player going the other way in a Lucic trade.

23 May 2019 13:40:33
Difference between making Russell expendable and tradable. Shatty might be able to fill the spot (not particularly well in a top 4 role right now I don’t think) but I don’t see teams lining up for Russell at 4 mill.

23 May 2019 14:17:53
This looks good on paper, however the thing people always forget is human factor. If shattenkirk isn't living up to his paycheque in New York (The team he specifically wanted to go to), how do you think he's going to perform in Edmonton, i believe a team he specifically did NOT want to go to when he was leaving St. Louis?

25 May 2019 21:25:39
If I'm Holland, no way I would let the Rangers have 2 pick with the top 10 pick from this draft. The Rangers have already so much young guys with so much potential.

EDM : Lucic, 2nd round pick 2020, 3rd round 2021
NYR : Shattenkirk, 5th round pick 2019

* Lucic has 4 years at 6mil
* Shattenkirk has 2 years at 6,5mil.

22 May 2019 04:33:32
WPG: Trouba
NJ: Severson, Zacha

Jets get a replacement for Trouba and a young C that could hopefully develop to a #2C. Devils get a #1RHD plus with Hughes coming in Zacha becomes expendable.

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22 May 2019 08:18:35
Good trade

22 May 2019 13:53:33
Yeah value is good Zacha could mould into a good 2c for Ehlers and Laine.

22 May 2019 14:14:57
This certainly would have possibilities. A very good base fir a deal.

22 May 2019 14:56:32
Could be a good trade but Zacha is a RFA and unless he can agree to a reasonable contract before the trade I think that Chevy should be wary.

22 May 2019 17:20:47
Well based on his play his future contract won’t be too much but he might not to sign long term rn ( he might bet on himself being better) but as the deal stands it seems like a good deal for both teams. Both get a good D with New jersey getting the best player but Winnipeg gets a solid top4 D and a NHL center that can still maybe turn into a top 6 forward.

22 May 2019 20:54:55
"a fair base" as usual.

23 May 2019 03:25:54
Both Trouba and Zacha are RFA, but only Trouba will go to the arbitration. Haha.

I believe New Jersey will not make this trade until they see how good Hughes actually is in nhl and they let Zacha build more value.

23 May 2019 14:53:47
Funny Jets fans would take terrible Severson and what most say a bust for trouba but not Kakko? Might be the definition of delusional right there.

23 May 2019 20:52:59
Delusional is not the right word. Ignorant is better.

22 May 2019 04:28:43
WPG: Trouba, Perreault, Gustafson
BUF: Reinhart, Ristolainen

Jets get a young #2C, a top 4 RHD to replace Trouba. Sabres get a #1RHD, a veteran mid 6 F that can play up and down the lineup who will add leadership to a young team, and a C/F prospect.

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22 May 2019 08:18:46
Fair imo

22 May 2019 14:17:56
Remove Perreault, Gustafson and Risto. Just work the deal around Reinhart and picks/ prospects.

22 May 2019 15:06:37
The Jets wouldn't want Ristolainen so it would take a better player/ prospect plus a #1 draft pick to get all three players from the Jets as Perreault isn't a cap dump.

23 May 2019 03:39:28
But why is every trade on here for Trouba? Why must he be traded? Can not the Jets just keep the Trouba? He is such very good player. They should just keep him. Why would they trade away such a very very good player?

23 May 2019 06:26:34
Zamboni. It's either trade or lose him for nothing next year. Get a better return for a year than a playoff run. he's as good as gone just like Matthew's singed a contract until the year he's a ufa. he's as good as gone also.

22 May 2019 04:23:45
WPG: Trouba (resigned)
FLA: Ekblad

Straight up trade. Ekblad gets a new start and behind Buff. Trouba gets his shot as the #1RHD in the US.

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22 May 2019 05:18:41
Nope from Florida. Trouba ain't worth nearly as much as Ekblad

22 May 2019 13:54:00
Add Ehlers atleast.

22 May 2019 14:20:54
It could be something to work around. Florida would need to add due to Ekblad's concussion history and because Trouba is much better.

22 May 2019 15:10:26
I like the deal as its a good hockey trade but I agree with Memarcusjoe the Jets could be getting a player that however good is one hit to the head away from never playing again which lowers his value.

22 May 2019 18:25:37
Player for player I think this is a good trade, only thing I see is Winnipeg is cheap and wouldn't want to take on Eckblad's big dollar contract.

23 May 2019 00:19:42
does sidney crosby's concussion history hurt his value too?

23 May 2019 03:42:48
Oh haha. Ekblad’s history of injury makes his value lower but the Trouba’s history of injury does not affect his value? All players are one hit away from having their career over.

Ekblad is so very much better than the Trouba. Of that I am sure. But do not take my word for it, no. Just read the analysts rankings, yes. You will see. Ekblad is so very much better than the Trouba.

23 May 2019 06:37:16
Ekblad is a way better player, maybe concussions have lowered his value but still worth a lot more than trouba alone, jets add a high pick and draft pick.

22 May 2019 04:20:04
ANA: 29th Overall Pick 2019 (STL)
WPG: 51st Overall Pick 2019, Comrie

Jets move up to the first round. Ducks use one of two 1st Round Picks to move back to the 2nd Round and get a backup goalie to Gibson.

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22 May 2019 13:49:13
yeah that will STL pick will either be a 30 or 31st pick


22 May 2019 15:15:19
Jets would do this trade as Comrie needs a chance to be a backup in the NHL and he won't get it with Maurice as coach. However I don't believe that the Ducks would as there will be lot of proven backups available on July 1st.

23 May 2019 00:28:20
I was surprised the Jets picked up broissoit last off season, I figured comrie to be nhl ready a year ago. although goalies do usually take longer to develop, I kinda like this trade tbh.

23 May 2019 03:46:53
I do not think backup goalies are worth a 1st round pick. Did not Anaheim trade a starting goalie for a 1st? So why would they trade a 1st for a backup? They can get a backup for much less. Oh yes, is true. Goalies do not have so very much in trade value.

23 May 2019 06:38:16
Again way to much.

23 May 2019 22:09:05
Interesting trade but is Myers a 2nd pairing d-man? I think that this trade gives the Jets a great center and 2 unknown futures for 3 roster players. The Jets don't do this as they are in a win now mode, not in 3 years.

21 May 2019 23:57:32
Toronto Trades

Ottawa Trades
ANilsson (UFA)
2nd Round Pick 2019 (Florida's Pick)

Ottawa then buys out Marleau and Marleau resigns in Toronto for a 1 million one year deal, similar trade Washington did Trading Orpik to Colorado and his buyout and resign in Washington.
Clears Cap Space for the Leafs and gives Ottawa some assets.
ANilsson would also be a perfect backup to FAndersen but they will need to resign him being a UFA.

Thoughts ?

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22 May 2019 00:40:59
pretty sure they fixed that loophole after the orpik trade happened? and i'd imagine ottawa would just use marleau to get to cap floor and have him as mentor to the kids.

22 May 2019 02:01:27
The loophole has been fixed and Marleau won’t waive for Ottawa. He’ll 100% be a Leaf next year with his full salary counting against the cap.

22 May 2019 04:17:26
Marleau has a no mouvement clause he won't waive for ottawa.

22 May 2019 10:26:47
Lol, zaitsev is a huge dump on top you add Marleau. Hahaha. And want a second in return for that crap.

22 May 2019 18:26:09
Marleau will nix this trade.

23 May 2019 03:50:28
Two cap dumps, a fourth line center who is not very good, and a backup goalie who is not very good, for a 2nd round draft pick and a backup goalie who is better than the crappy backup goalie named Sparks? I do not think this is a good trade for Ottawa. No, they will not accept this trade. Toronto can keep all those guys that do nothing to make Ottawa a better team.

21 May 2019 14:19:30
Carolina Trades
JGauthier (AHL)
6th Round Pick 2019

Toronto Trades
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)

Thoughts ?

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21 May 2019 14:36:45
No matter how many times you post this or similar trades. I can't see Carolina having any interest in it.

21 May 2019 15:13:05
Kadri seems to be at the heart of every trade posted here to try and bilk teams out of a top d-man or prospect.

21 May 2019 15:48:27
Honestly you never should have gone for jake muzzin. he is LHD you need A RHD. There would have been plenty of good first round dmen available at the 17-23 pick. here is a list just from the mock drafts.
IMO you guys should have gone for Moritz He is big tall. I hope to god the blues can figure out how to get a 20-25 pick and get this guy. I would give up A really good set of prospects for this kid. He would fit nicely behind Parayko, petro.

Victor Soderstrom, rhd,
Ville Heinola, lhD
Moritz Seider, rhd 6"4 200 lbs
Cam York, LHD
Philip Broberg, LHD
Anttoni Honka, RHD.

21 May 2019 18:56:51
how do you disagree. Tor lost thier 1st have muzzin who is lhd and didn't fair well moving to rhd. Tor was booted out first round and on top of all that you still have a rhd issue. LOL yep disagree with me.

ON SIDE NOTE let's GO Bluessssssss.

21 May 2019 20:17:56
Muzzin brings a physical presence that’s absent on the leafs blue-line and is the best shut down guy on the team.

21 May 2019 21:43:55
Yeah that's actually pretty easy to disagree with Colt.

The Leafs needed better defense. Period. On both the right side and the left side (with Gardiner likely gone this summer) . Muzzin was a good add on a cheap contract and was traded for a non-exorbitant price, and he came with another year and cost certainty. You're suggesting that the Leafs would have been better off using that first to draft a RHD somewhere in the back half of the first round this year and then what, wait another 3 years for that player to be in the lineup? Their window is open now.

Yes the Leafs lost to Boston in the first round again. Boston is a good team. They disposed of Columbus and made mince meat of Carolina cruising to the Stanley Cup Finals. So far, the Leafs have given them the best run for their money, and without Kadri for most of the series. Maybe your Blues will be up to the task if they can finish off the Sharks, but I would not sleep on them.


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