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26 Nov 2022 03:24:20
Minnesota Trades
Zuccarello*
Dumba*

Toronto Trades
Kerfoot
Simmonds
Holl
Kallgren
1st Round Pick 2023

*Minnesota retains 50% of remaining Contract(s)

Leafs add both a Top 6 Winger, as well as a Top RHanded shooting Defenceman.

Wild improve getting Kallgren for Goaltending depth plus a 1st Round Pick.


Thoughts ?

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26 Nov 2022 15:32:37
not sure why the wild would make this deal. kerfoot has some value but no more then a third line player, simmonds and holl have no value at all simmonds was on waivers not to long ago and kallgren is a 3rd string goalie with potential but as back up at the nhl level. the first round pick will most likely be a mid/ late first. while the wild in your words give up a top 6 forward and a top 4 dman and on top of that the wild eat 50 % of salary. pretty sure the wild turn this down.

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28 Nov 2022 11:30:06
wild loses out on this big time.

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24 Nov 2022 01:56:50
Canucks trade: Thatcher Demko

Devils trade: Holtz, Nemec, Blackwood,

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24 Nov 2022 02:21:33
I’m not sure why NJ would tamper with a successful lineup.

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24 Nov 2022 02:36:38
Canucks obviously aren’t ready to contend, they need to retool and get players and pic’s. Demko is affordable and cost controlled for the next 3 or 4 seasons, and just coming into his prime. A big upgrade on what they have already, and cements a need that will become an issue for the Devils in the future. Not many goalies on the potential trade market like him. NJ probably says no, but to get a goalie like him, you got to pay the price.

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24 Nov 2022 15:38:53
That is a massive overpayment for Demko.
Holtz was #7 overall in 2020, Nemec was #2 Overall in 2022, that is 2 top 10 picks, plus Blackwood, for Demko.
Extremely high price to pay.

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23 Nov 2022 17:43:28
ARI : Chychrun

Ott : Formenton, Jarventie, a conditional 2025 1st (Chychrun has to play a certain number of games before the 2025 draft or that 1st becomes a 2nd, due to him being so injury proned)

And

VAN : Hughes

OTT : Chabot, Daoust, 2024 3rd

I actually just read a rumor on Chabot for Hughes somewhere recently. So that one not far off what I read. And Arizona seriously needs to wake up on Chychrun asking price to which this is a realistic offer here.

Ottawa Defense after the trades.

Sanderson Hughes
Chychrun Zub
Branstrom Docker.

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23 Nov 2022 18:36:41
Sens will definitely not trade Chabot.

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23 Nov 2022 20:02:27
Rather have Chabot than Hughes.

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24 Nov 2022 02:23:06
I like the first trade, but I can’t see the second one.

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24 Nov 2022 22:34:53
There is a reason Formenton remains unsigned.

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25 Nov 2022 17:58:17
Renidrag yeah there is, it's called they haven't come to an agreement yet.

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26 Nov 2022 18:53:38
My bad to,

Sure.

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23 Nov 2022 17:30:53
Toronto and Minnesota trade.

TOR: Dumba and Boldy

MIN: Nylander

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23 Nov 2022 20:03:07
I wouldn't trade Boldy I'd i was Guerin.

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24 Nov 2022 13:27:41
Actually not a bad offer for Nylander.

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24 Nov 2022 22:37:03
I wouldn't trade Boldy straight up for Nylander, never mind adding Dumba.
This trade might work, if the Leafs were adding a 1st and another pick.

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25 Nov 2022 11:22:41
take out Boldy and it seems good.

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26 Nov 2022 14:07:58
Lol Dumba for Nylander is a joke. Buddy has been trash the past 2 seasons. Nylander is built for playoff hockey and goes off every playoffs like Paul Karyra/ Temmu Selaming did. He gets the Scotty Pippen effect because he plays under Mathews and Marner but honestly I think he’s just as good as them.

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27 Nov 2022 23:59:30
I haven’t been on here in months, I see balsam hasn’t changed.

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22 Nov 2022 18:41:17
Its my first attempt at this...

Sens need to do something asap. They either need a coaching change or a locker room shake up, because given the talent they have, they shouldn't be at the bottom of the standings. Clearly they have issues at D. Turn overs in the zone and lack of offence generated from the back end. Could the sens re-acquire Erik Karlsson. The problem is cap space. I believe Dorion and all sens fans would love to have him back.

scenario 1

Sens Trade : Josh Norris

Sharks Trade: Karlsson (retain 3.5 Million per year for 4 years)

Scenario 2

Sens trade : Josh Norris (8M) & Nikita Zaitsev (4.5M)

Sharks trade : Karlsson (full salary 11.5M)


Given Karlsson looks healthy and happy and playing like he was in Ottawa, where he was a TSN highlight every night, he would be worth parting ways with Norris.

Sharks need to enter a re-build and could use a young top centre locked in for 8 yrs. Norris is a write off for this year given his injury.

Karlsson is at a point in his career where he would not want to enter a re-build. He would most likely keep the Shark near the middle of the pack and just missing the playoffs, which doesn't help any re-build.

Karlsson would boost Ottawa's blueline and help Ottawa create some scoring. He could ignite all the talented players on the Ottawa roster. Could see a power play with Giroux, Stutzle, Debrincat, Tkachuck and Karlsson..... 5 point per game + guys on the ice at the same time.

I think Shark can sell it to their fans as a do over and building into the future. The cap works on both sides. got to trade a good player to make it happen. Both teams win. Think sens could be cup contender in next 4 years and if Karlsson agrees he'd most likely extend after 4 for a more cap manageable contract anyways.

For those saying it would be a problem cuz Brady is captain. Maybe Brady even gives up the C for an A acknowledging Karlsson. Maybe Karlsson just wears an A. Maybe Karlsson doesn't even need a letter cuz he would command respect regardless. The players need to get going and Karlsson would certanly move the needle in Ottawa big time.

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23 Nov 2022 01:48:09
I wouldn't be trading for Karlson, if I am the Sens. With what he costs you are better just being a little more patient with the group the Sens currently have.

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23 Nov 2022 17:31:28
Hell No!

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23 Nov 2022 18:41:07
Is there another player or package that would get Karlsson back in Ottawa.

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23 Nov 2022 20:06:31
I'd stay away from Karlsson, sure he looks awesome right now. But that contract is to much for to long.

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23 Nov 2022 20:38:19
Sens don't need Karlsson back. especially if it costs them Norris.

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24 Nov 2022 00:03:43
100% agreed with Seabass2011. In no world would I give Norris back for EK even with 75% retained salary on EKs part. Sens don't need to go backwards on the rebuild good God.

I'd sooner say with this season and go for the tank without making any moves and worry about the defense after they get a top 3 draft stud.

Bringing in EK now my be good for this year to push for playoffs sure but after this year it would kill the rebuild. No guarantee that he will stay this good for one. For 2 he's only got 5 maybe 6 good years left if he's lucky and can stay healthy. Health is the biggest risk. And if any of those go to the negative result, not only do they lose 10 to 15 years of a great young player in Josh Norris but they also basically throw away the tank and with it the opportunity to draft Bedard or Michkov or Fantilli to boot. Way too much risk for way too little reward. Just not logical.

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24 Nov 2022 02:28:21
I hope you don’t get discouraged with the feedback, and I hope you put together some more trade proposals ongoing👍.

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24 Nov 2022 13:32:06
Everyone has valid points, but the sens are not in rebuild mode anymore. They have been the past 5 seasons. Maybe they have to find another deal to get it done, but 100% Karlsson makes the sens a better team. He has been one of the best defencemen in the NHL for the past decade minus the injues in the past two seasons. This year he is currently in the Norris trophy convo with Makar. A healthy Karlsson would give the team a top 3 Defecemen in the NHL for the next 4 years. in a win now team. They are strugling at D. They can easily figure themselves out at centre. I don't see Norris getting 100 point seasons, but again the package doesn't need to include him. The bigger problem is if the sens don't make the playoffs, I don't see Debrincat re-signing and that is the bigger issue of doing nothing right now. The eastern conference is really strong this year and they can't afford to wait it out. If they lose debrincat then they will try and draft someone as good as him hoping they pan out and be no further ahead.

Maybe a coaching change for a better defensive system is needed, but something needs to happen asap, because the sens are no longer in a re-build but are dangerously close to going back into one.

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24 Nov 2022 21:37:27
CrosbySens. I'm not to sure that Karlsson is/ will be a top 3 dman. especially for 4 more years. Right now he is deffenitley on fire, I can't take that away
As for the rebuild, I think this hurts that. When the time comes to sigh Sanderson of his ELC, Karlsson will be eating up some of that money, as well as for others.
Obviously this season hasn't gone the way the Sens fans and management has though. I also thought they would be a playoff contender. That contract is just so high, and has to much term for a player who, yes this season is having an incredible rebound. Will it last? that's the 11 million dollar question.
Ottawa has some really good peices, so I wouldn't go to drastic, a few tweaks here and there. Most rebuilds don't go according to plan, especially the timeline. This one is a little off the rails forsure, but, a little this, a little that could steer the team in right direction.

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22 Nov 2022 11:57:33
Avalanche:
A. Kerfoot

Leafs:
2nd 2023
2nd 2022

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24 Nov 2022 02:30:14
Time to drop the “Les Habitants” handle…you only pitch leaf-friendly deals. No need to hide that you cheer for the leafs if you love your team.

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22 Nov 2022 11:45:40
Wild:
N. Robertson

Leafs:
Rossi

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22 Nov 2022 13:07:29
I’d take that and run as a leafs fan. Minnesota Wong trade Rossi.

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22 Nov 2022 02:17:42
Ruotsalainen, ArttuReserve List-$0001---------Luukkonen, Ukko-PekkaLTIR-$728,851011-------Lindgren, MatsReserve List-$0001---------InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%Demko, ThatcherLTIR-$4,351,351011-------Keeper, BradyMinor-$0011---0000--2025 2nd round pick (VAN)

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22 Nov 2022 11:00:05
UPL, Ruistlainen and a 1st for Demko?

Don’t think Canucks move demko.

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22 Nov 2022 22:28:58
If I am reading this correctly,
Buffalo trades Ruotsalainen, UPL, Mats Lindgren, a 1st, 2nd and 3rd for Demko, Brady Keeper and a 2nd in 2025.

As a Canucks fan, I take that all day every day.

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04 Dec 2022 00:37:00
Isn’t Ruotsalainen now in Philly?

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