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12 Jun 2024 19:43:55
Ducks: 1st Round Pick 2024 Leafs
1st Round Pick 2024 Islanders (Chicago)
4th Round Pick 2025 Rangers (Chicago)
Nick Robertson (Chicago)
(Retain 50% of John Gibson)

Blackhawks: Trevor Zegras
(Retain 50% of John Gibson)

Maple Leafs: John Gibson

I haven't watched the Ducks in a couple years and I know Zegras had a down year so I'm not 100% on his value. Also read that Chicago has interest in him.
Is this fair? If not who adds or subtracts?

Believable2 Unbelievable12

12 Jun 2024 16:52:57
LAKings Trade
Kopitar
2nd Round Pick 2025

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
Holmberg
Kampf
Liljegren
1st Round Pick 2026


Kings move on from Kopitar and become better depth wise as all The Leaf Players are NHLers, LA keeps the retooling to keep competitive in this Proposal.

For The Leafs Kopitar becomes their older version of Barkov, Treliving talked about changing it up this does this to keep very competitive as Kopitar would be the #2 Center, with Tavares sliding down to #3 giving Toronto the best 3 Centre's in The NHL.

Cap Wise it's probably a wash once NRobertson and Liljegren RFAs resign.



Thoughts ?

Believable7 Unbelievable17

12 Jun 2024 17:29:09
I will add both Kopitar and Kampf would have to waive their NMC, otherwise this proposal can't happen.

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12 Jun 2024 17:56:22
Kopitar will retire a King.

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12 Jun 2024 20:23:08
It still gets worse even with some healthy advice, or straight up truth you've been given the last 3 years.

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12 Jun 2024 21:56:43
Why? Just. why? The Leafs don't need a top 6 center they need defense and goaltending which is what you offered all of these players and picks for when you tried to come up with offers for Chychrun and Saros.

Now you're moving on to trying for Kopitar and your only logic is "kings move on from Kopitar and become better depth wise. " But why do the Kings need to move on from their captain and a franchise player?

Kings fans would riot if this trade ever happened, but you dont give a 💩 about that you just want a shiny toy for the Leafs and you'll offer everything of no value all together because you think all of it combined has value.

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12 Jun 2024 21:59:57
Marner for Kaliev and a 2024 6th round pick. Leafs move on from Marner and become better depth wise.

You see how that looks when it's Toronto giving up the better player?

Now go click agree on your own post pinball.

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11 Jun 2024 23:39:15
Habs Trade

Habs trade Reinbacher, 26th and Anderson

Calgary trades Huberdeau and 9th

Habs draft Lindstrom 5th and Sennecke 9th.

Believable1 Unbelievable18

12 Jun 2024 00:13:58
This could be the worst trade I’ve ever seen on this site and that says a lot. No ones taking Huberdeau with 9th overall attached to him for free.

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12 Jun 2024 00:35:17
I’m gonna say no from flames.

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12 Jun 2024 00:35:57
Maybe switch 9 for 28.

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12 Jun 2024 16:10:16
Take out Reinbacher.

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12 Jun 2024 17:49:38
Huberdeau and 9 for Anderson and 26. That is a brutal thought. Get bent and hang up phone. Anderson lucky to be third line 20 points. How about a rebuttal trade………. Huberdeau and 28 for Reinbacher and 5.

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12 Jun 2024 20:26:10
sennecke is a weird pick.

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13 Jun 2024 00:26:31
Can’t tell if Nashan is trolling or he actually think Huberdeau holds value lol.

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13 Jun 2024 14:12:34
Little bit of trolling. Tired of lobsided trades is all.

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14 Jun 2024 01:51:27
Nathan. Hardly lopsided. You get the 5th overall pick, reinbacher was a 5th overall last year. If anything it is lopsided towards MTL.

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14 Jun 2024 15:09:23
You referring to my rebuttal trade? If so that is my point.

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15 Jun 2024 21:28:49
Fair. After I added Reinbacher I wasn't sure. Take out reinbacher and replace with Barron.

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11 Jun 2024 21:03:18
Chicago Trades
CMurphy*
2nd Round Pick 2024 (TBs Pick)

Toronto Trades
Liljegren
1st Round Pick 2026

*Chicago retains 50% of CMurphy's remaining contract.


Chicago would do a trade like this everyday with their rebuild in full force, retaining 2.2 million over 2 years is similar to the McCabe trade, and replacing a 31 year old Defenceman with a 25 year old Defenceman that should get better plus a 1st Rounder seals the deal.

Leafs looking for that Defenceman to play with Rielly would finally be filled adding CMurphy, and at 2.2 million this gives them enough flexibility to do more this off season, trading yet another 1st Rounder is tough but when you are trying to win it all next season trading picks usually happens.


Thoughts ?

Believable2 Unbelievable16

11 Jun 2024 22:33:07
So last week Liljegrens trade value was so low that you were trying to package him with Kampf for Chicago's 2nd round pick (60th)

But today Liljegrens trade value js somewhere between the center piece of a trade for Jusse Saros or the biggest piece of a trade for Connor Murphy.

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12 Jun 2024 08:30:10
Another Liljegren trade that hurts the other trade and helps the leafs?

Wow, I just never saw it coming.

I look forward to tomorrows even worse Lilly trade…and the next day’s…. and the next day’s….

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12 Jun 2024 15:23:34
Chickenfoot
How does trading a 31 year old Defenceman like CMurphy and trading off a 2nd Rounder for a 1st Rounder and also getting a 25 year old Defenceman hurt Chicago?
Isn't Chicago in a rebuild?
You don't think rebuilding teams make trades like this?
Wow it's amazing how you see things, got to give it to you make me lol.

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12 Jun 2024 15:36:52
If you’re laughing I’m laughing 😂.

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12 Jun 2024 20:29:22
Wow, Murphy is very important player. Take out the second and retention and not crazy though.

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13 Jun 2024 03:25:41
Chicago basically owns Torontos first more than Toronto does in 5 years? Im Chicago fan sounds great but Murphy will be apart of their future for a year or two. Chicago definitely not retaining on a great contract unless marner coming back only to prepare for the giant raise for marner.

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11 Jun 2024 20:50:36
OTT: Ehlers
WPG: Chychrun

Believable8 Unbelievable5

11 Jun 2024 21:09:59
Winnipeg has zero need for LHD, so the Jets should say no.

An Ehlers trade needs to fill a need for the Jets, like a top 4 RHD or 2C with term or team control.

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13 Jun 2024 03:28:36
Memarcus, connor Murphy, a 3rd for Ehlers.

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11 Jun 2024 20:32:36
LA: Rights to Laurent Brossoit
WPG: Rights to Matt Roy

LA: Rights to Ilya Samsonov, Rights to Timothey Liljegren
TML: Rights to Matt Roy, 6th Round Pick 2024

LA: Rights to Anthony Stolarz
FLA: 6th Round Pick 2025

LA Goalie tandem: Stolarz + Brossoit
Or Stolarz + Samsonov

Believable2 Unbelievable9

11 Jun 2024 15:03:22
Nashville Trades
Saros

Toronto Trades
McMann
Liljegren
Samsonov (Rights)


Thoughts ?

Believable7 Unbelievable20

11 Jun 2024 15:14:48
Not enough for Saros.

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11 Jun 2024 15:25:44
What's worse than packaging Mcmann and Liljegren to try and get Carlson from Washington?

Packaging Mcmann and Liljegren with Samsonovs signing rights for Jusse freaking Saros.

There are at least 4 teams in on Saros right now and you think thus package is the best offer Nashville can get?

You know absolutely NOTHING about hockey. McMann has 66 career NHL games at 27 years old and has 25 career points, 24 of which came last year when he was called up. And you value him as being better than Nic Dowd (500 career NHL games and 149 points. )

You deserve all the negativity you get for being this braindead.

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11 Jun 2024 15:50:10
LMac0420
I would be willing to add a 2026 first Round Pick if Nashville would be willing to add a 2024 2nd Rounder, so if that's the case.

Nashville Trades
Saros
2nd Round Pick 2024 (Jets Pick)

Toronto Trades
McMann
Liljegren
Samsonov (Rights)
1st Round Pick 2026

Yes that's very fair for Nashville and Toronto going forward, thanks for pointing out it wasn't enough, I agree Toronto would have to add that 1st Rounder for Saros.

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11 Jun 2024 16:18:55
Honestly you’re not close.
Saros is a top 10 goalie in the league.
Samsonovs rights have no value (maybe a 7th round pick)
Mcmann is a 27 year old rookie whose value is probably 3rd liner
And Liljegren is a 5-6 defenceman maybe a 4 on a good day.

Nashville wouldn’t need to add a pick
Toronto adding a 1st still isn’t enough.

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11 Jun 2024 16:57:44
Nashville fans would riot if Saros would be traded for such a lowball return, but you dont think about the other fanbase right?

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11 Jun 2024 17:11:58
Get serious if you want Saros and offer up Marner. Saros is one of the top 10 goalies in the league, he's going to be worth more than your daily combination of RFAs and a late 1st round pick.

But I know you're too much of a coward to answer my comment so just keep pretending you've got a friend in LMac.

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11 Jun 2024 18:14:30
Marner 50% retained to Florida for 7th round pick. That’s how your trades sound pinball.

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11 Jun 2024 20:26:51
LMac0420
Askarov is Nashville's future not Saros, with that saying getting more than my proposal is truly a stretch here, Saros is on an expiring contract which means teams won't be selling the farm to get Saros, most on here overvalue trades thinking teams are getting so much in a trade and they usually never get anything close in this case Saros is truly worth.
You can disagree which you are entitled to do on here, but I do understand how transactions happen in The NHL and if anything Saros probably is moved for less.

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11 Jun 2024 20:57:00
Unrelated to this offer at all but Pinball why are you adding Lilijgren to every leafs package? He is by far their best RHD in their system and is cost controlled. The leafs have absolutely zero reason to trade him and i guarantee they won’t. He’s a good dman and the leafs desperately need him being their only RHD under contract.

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11 Jun 2024 21:08:05
vbb
Liljegren just hasn't worked out with Toronto, I like him to but Treliving will be changing it up and believe Liljegren will be traded to improve other areas, there is Myers, Pesce or even Dumba out there that are RHanded Shooting Defencemen that are UFAs, and I am sure that area will be addressed minus Liljegren imo.

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11 Jun 2024 21:45:51
Pinball if Trotz gets less he’s fired.
Saros is a Top goalie in the NHL, has played 64+ games in each of the last 3 years, Vezina finalist and only 30. For a year of control @5 million and then the ability to sign him for max 8 years after.
You’re looking at giving up at LEAST a 1st Round Pick, Top Prospect, and a Young roster player. (1st Round Pick in 2024[23rd Overall], Easton Cowan and Timothey Liljegren)

Doesn’t matter if Askarov is the future, it doesn’t diminish Saros value.

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12 Jun 2024 00:14:03
LMac: Pinball doesn't like trades that are fair for both teams though. It gets too complicated for him.

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12 Jun 2024 08:34:22
Hahahahaha.

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11 Jun 2024 14:38:37
Ottawa Trades
Chychrun
Katchouk

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
Liljegren
DeWar
1st Round Pick 2026


Unless Chychrun is planning to resign which I believe he isn't in Ottawa, The Sens make a smart move in this proposal going forward in the future.

Leafs will be looking at bolstering Defense and Chychrun helps to get the off season shopping started, Katchouk a RFA will probably not be qualified making him a UFA imo.



Thoughts ?

Believable3 Unbelievable13

11 Jun 2024 15:31:47
In your own words you consider Chychrun the worst defenseman on the Senators roster because of his -30 +/ - stat.

Hes playing for a provincial and divisional rival, if he was going to be traded within Ontario the ask from Ottawa would be a lot more than 2 RFAs and a late 1st round pick considering they'll be seeing a lot of Chychrun with how often the leafs and Sens play each other.

You just continue to try and offer different combinations of Liljegren, Robertson, McMann or Dewar and that 1st rounder hoping that you'll find something that sticks.

You're absolutely braindead and you are wasting your time on here. Go play franchise mode on your ps5 where trades like this will still get rejected.

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12 Jun 2024 08:39:01
It’s trades like this that necessitate a Pinball quality control rule. One person littering this site with daily nonsense just lowers the experience.

#PinballNeedsATimeOut.

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11 Jun 2024 14:20:21
Carolina: Calgary 5th Round Pick 2024
Chicago: Kotkaniemi

Carolina: Washington 2nd Round Pick 2024
Utah: Orlov

Resign Skjei, Chatfeild, Jarvis, Guentzel

Make the Marner trade I posted
Still have enough to sign some depth forwards and D.

Believable0 Unbelievable6

11 Jun 2024 13:20:13
Something I think we might see on the draft floor on June 28th is the Calgary Flames drafting back to back in the 1st round.

With their 9th overall pick the Calgary Flames select Berkly Catton from the Spokane Chiefs.

And then... we have a trade to announce.

The New Jersey Devils trade their 10th overall pick to the Calgary Flames in exchange for Jacob Markstrom and the 62nd overall pick.

To New Jersey: Jacob Markstrom, pick #62 (2nd round)

To Calgary: Pick #10

Calgary uses this drama to announce that with the 10th overall pick, they select Tij Iginla from the Kelowna Rockets.

Calgary walks away from day 1 of the draft with 2 top 10 picks and the next generations Iginla to play for the Flames.

New Jersey walks away from day 1 of the draft with their starting goalie solidified and have a 2nd round pick to use on day 2(they currently have no 2nd round pick this year.)

Believable7 Unbelievable4

11 Jun 2024 14:49:59
Done deal for both teams.

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11 Jun 2024 21:00:41
I’m not sold on Markstrom returning the 10th overall pick. If a goalie is moved for 10th overall I see it being Saros/ Askarov or Sorokin. They are more comparable to Schnider due to age. Markstrom is not exactly young anymore.

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11 Jun 2024 02:21:07
Habs trade Guhle and Dvorak to Anaheim for Zegras
Sign Patrick Kane as free agent
Draft lindstrom 5th overall
1st line
Slavkosky Suzuki caufield
2nd line
Lindstrom 🔄dach Kane
3rd line
Newhook 🔄zegras Roy
4th line
Anderson evans Gallagher

Believable1 Unbelievable13

11 Jun 2024 12:13:25
Lindstrom should be sent back. He's got the size to be at the NHL level, but I feel like they've learned from Slav that there's no need to rush. Another year at junior would do him good.

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