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19 Oct 2024 10:35:42
Colorado Avalanche
* Tristan Jarry $4,573,000
* Drew O'Connor $925,000
* Samuel Poulin &775,000
* Valtteri Puustinen $775,000



Pittsburg Penguins
* Alexandar Georgiev $3.4m
* Calum Ritchie $950,000
* 15% retained on Tristan Jarry’s Contract is $807,000
* Calle Rosen $775,000
* TJ Tynan $775,000


Idea of the trade was that two struggling goalies get new opportunities elsewhere.

The Av’s are in win mode now so they get a very good player in O’Connor who can make a difference. O’Connor is a UFA at end of season so Pittsburg resigning him was a gamble and feel that the Avalanche have a better shot.
Plus Puustinen can help the team today. Poulin also gets a fresh start and maybe he can make it work in Colorado.
Both of these players have term on their contract which benefits the Av’s.

Pittsburg has to retain salary only fair due to the term left on Jarry’s contract.
Pittsburg also gets a good prospect in Ritchie.
The other two players are simply throw in’s on the deal to make numbers and bodies work and both are UFA at end of season. They go right to the minors.

Thoughts??

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19 Oct 2024 01:00:11
Trade which helps both teams:

Colorado Avalanche
* Tristan Jarry (UFA) $4,573,000
* Drew O'Connor (UFA) $925,000
* Samuel Poulin (RFA) $775,000
* Valtteri Puustinen (UFA) $775,000

Total: $7,048,000.00


Pittsburg Penguins
* Alexandar Georgiev (UFA) $3.4m
* Calum Ritchie (RFA) $950,000
* 15% retained on Tristan Jarry’s Contract is $807,000
* Calle Rosen (UFA) $775,000
* TJ Tynan (UFA) $775,000

Total: $6,707,000.00


Thoughts?

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19 Oct 2024 10:39:36
Correction - disregard tbe UFA/RFA note.

Idea of the trade was that two struggling goalies get new opportunities elsewhere.

The Av’s are in win mode now so they get a very good player in O’Connor who can make a difference. O’Connor is a UFA at end of season so Pittsburg resigning him was a gamble and feel that the Avalanche have a better shot.
Plus Puustinen can help the team today. Poulin also gets a fresh start and maybe he can make it work in Colorado.
Both of these players have term on their contract which benefits the Av’s.

Pittsburg has to retain salary only fair due to the term left on Jarry’s contract.
Pittsburg also gets a good prospect in Ritchie.
The other two players are simply throw in’s on the deal to make numbers and bodies work and both are UFA at end of season. They go right to the minors.

Thoughts??

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17 Oct 2024 22:05:15
EDM - Kulak
TOR - Liljegren.

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17 Oct 2024 13:44:26
Red Wings:
- Justin Holl ($3.4m aav until 2026)

Maple Leafs:
- Timothy Liljegren ($3m aav until 2026)

I don't even know why I did this lol. I just thought if Berube doesn't seen any potential in Liljegren after one week, maybe Holl is the type of player he's looking for?

And if the Leafs can't afford to waive him for nothing, the Red Wings definitely can. Liljegren either rebounds in Detroit or he gets sent to Grand Rapids, worst case scenario he gets some time to showcase his value until Petry returns from injury.

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16 Oct 2024 00:04:21
Chicago: 25 4th., 26 4th. Toronto: liljgren. I've read going rate is a mid round pick. Maybe a 3rd. I can see Chicago picking him up and sending down nolan to an already stacked rockford de and reunited with korchinski. At this point Toronto doesn't have the depth to trade him but maybe figure it out.

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16 Oct 2024 18:41:59
It won’t take that much to get Lilly. The leafs have been asked for sweeteners or to retain salary.

What was the team thinking when they made him their 4th highest paid D-man, and then can’t play him? He’s paid like a 2nd pairing guy, but he’s actually a 6 or 7 D on a decent team.

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18 Oct 2024 01:11:40
I thought you were just being a Leafs hater Chickenfoot but you were actually right about this. Lol so much for being the most valuable D on the Leafs.

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18 Oct 2024 16:19:06
Hey EBS! Happy Friday!

I don’t hate anyone or any team. I don’t pretend to understand all the attention paid to this player though, either.

My thinking about Lilly is pretty much consistent with the general consensus among pundits, as to tradability and factors to making a move palatable to another team.

And yes…. I too laugh at the dude who thought Lilly was the most important D to the leafs. For all his insults and dismissals of others, it turns out he doesn’t understand his own team, let along “hockey” in general. 😂

Be good to yourself and enjoy the hockey this weekend. 🤜.

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24 Oct 2024 16:58:06
Liljegren ROTS …

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15 Oct 2024 15:15:54
I have a 3 team trade proposal.

Anaheim Trades
Leason - (Tor)
Nesterenko(AHL) - (SJ)

San Jose Trades
Granlund - (Ana/Tor)*
3rd Round Pick 2025 - (Tor)

Toronto Trades
Kampf - (SJ)
Jarnkrok - (Ana)
Liljegren - (SJ)
1st Round Pick 2026 - (Ana)

*Ana will retain 50% of Granlund's expiring contract.

Trade Breakdown.
Anaheim
Leason/Nesterenko
-Jarnkrok/1st Round Pick 2026

San Jose
Granlund/3rd Round Pick 2025
-Kampf/Liljegren/Nesterenko

Toronto
Kampf/Jarnkrok/Liljegren/1st Round Pick 2026
-Granlund/Leason/3rd Round Pick 2025



Thoughts ?

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16 Oct 2024 02:16:24
Wow…another trade that tries to offload the Kampf and Lilly contracts? I just never saw THAT coming! 😁.

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16 Oct 2024 12:30:25
Chickenfoot
Do you think Kampf and Liljegren aren't NHL Players?
Curious as you always put them as castoffs to other teams.

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16 Oct 2024 18:44:33
Kampf and Lilly are overpaid for what they bring. You’re not trading either without retaining salary or offering up sweeteners. A player who isn’t worth their cap hit is tough to move in the cap era. That’s just the way it is.

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17 Oct 2024 13:38:32
Only pinball could cast off Kampf in every trade he makes and then gaslight someone else and ask "why do you think of him as just a cast off? "

Seriously though, why do you hate Kampf so much Pinball?

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18 Oct 2024 01:24:00
Amen, DrwDave for reminding us of what hockey sense reads like🤜.

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10 Oct 2024 15:29:57
Flames pick up Lillgren from Toronto and Toronto retains 40%. In addition Calgary sends Joel Hanely to Toronto for a 2025 4th.

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10 Oct 2024 13:41:28
Toronto: liljgren... chicago: Reichel. Forward for defenseman that need a new start.

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24 Oct 2024 17:00:38
liljegren ROTS …..

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08 Oct 2024 22:43:42
Sharks Trade
Granlund

Leafs Trade
Kampf*
Liljegren


*Kampf will have to waive his NTC if SJ is not on his list.


Cap Wise is basically a wash with this proposal, yes once Jarnkrok, DeWar and Hakanpaa are ready to be activated there will be more moves, but for the now it truly gives Toronto 4 solid Lines imo.



Thoughts ?

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09 Oct 2024 00:11:50
Whats wrong with Kampf? Why is he included in every single trade you come up with?

If this isn't a cap saving move then it means you think Kampf isn't good enough to hold his own as a PK specialist.

If it will cost Toronto Liljegren just to attract a team into taking Kampf, wouldn't it be easier to just hold onto him and see how the season starts out?

Since the Leafs haven't even played a single game this season nevermind played one with the lines they want to roll, how can you say this move gives them 4 solid lines?

Overall thoughts, you once again forgot that the Leafs are forward heavy and don't need a scoring forward if it's going to cost them a PK specialist and a right handed defenseman.

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09 Oct 2024 12:28:13
DrwDave
Holmberg, Lorentz, McMann, and DeWar once he is healthy that easily replaces Kampf is why, they still need to make moves at the bottom forward position once Jarnkrok is also healthy.
Liljegren is a depth Defenceman for Berube and again once Hakanpaa is healthy there are too many Defencemen keeping Liljegren.
Granlund gives Toronto 3 Solid Centers in my proposal.

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20 Oct 2024 14:59:25
Liljegren worth a 3rd 4th. Kampf worth almost nothing due to his salary. Toronto can't trade a couple barely nhl players for a good nhler.

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08 Oct 2024 14:49:52
I wonder 8fmanyon3 could create a post or 2 that w o under somehow be beneficial to the Leafs, maybe to provide them some cap relief, as well as giving them a decent player?
Preferably the proposal would have the Leafs giving up at least 2 of the following players, Kampf. Lilljegren or Robertson.

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08 Oct 2024 18:00:20
Should have proofread

I wonder if anyone could create a post or 2 that would.

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12 Oct 2024 05:41:15
I’m pretty sure every trade that Pinball will post for the foreseeable future will include Kampf, Lilly or Robertson…in some combination…and it will be for a “decent player”.

It won’t be realistic, cap compliant, or fair value for the team not called the leafs, but I suspect you’ll get a frequent barrage of “cap dumps for a player” trades👍.

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07 Oct 2024 14:48:09
Anaheim Trades
Vatrano

Toronto Trades
Kampf*
Jarnkrok
Liljegren

*Leafs retain $400.000 a year of Kampf's remaining 3 year contract.


Leafs solve a few things with this proposal, Cap Space, and a Top 6 Winger in Vatrano.
Ducks long term get the better return in this proposal, having as much Cap as they do this doesn't hurt them at all.



Thoughts ?

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07 Oct 2024 17:07:06
Toronto is already over the cap with Pacioretty and Lorentz signed.

They also have a log jam at LW with Knies, Robertson, Pacioretty and even Cowen and Alex Nylander. They don't need Vatrano but they do need cap space.

Kampf and Jarnkrok have modified NTCs which may include Anaheim as 1 of their 10 no trade teams since they're on a playoff team already and wouldn't want to play for a bottom feeder.

You could offer Liljegren to Anaheim for future considerations to make cap space, but then again Anaheim has no need for him on their RHD depth and the Leafs are short of RHD depth already.

Overall thoughts are you woke up this morning and didn't seem to notice that the Leafs roster is forward heavy and in no need of a scoring winger.

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07 Oct 2024 19:32:42
DrwDave
Cowan is back in Jr and Alex Nylander is going to The Marlies.
Robertson is going to play RW not LW, or you can put Vatrano at RW.
DeWar and Hakanpaa will be on IR and Philip Myers a RHanded shooting Defenceman made the team.
This fits the cap and adds upfront imo.

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08 Oct 2024 16:41:06
So 37-goal score (60 points) for 3 cap dumps, one of whom is expected to miss several weeks?

Yep…that’s a pinball trade for ya👍.

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