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18 Oct 2022 21:18:31
to Toronto Maple Leafs :
LD/RD - Oliver Kylington (2.50 @ 2 UFA)
First Round Pick in 2023 (CGY)
LW/RW - Dillon Dube (2.30 @ 2 RFA)

to Calgary Flames :
RW - William Nylander (6.96 @ 2 UFA)



M Bunting - A Matthews - M Marner
A Kerfoot - J Tavares - D Dube
N Robertson - C Jarnkrok - Z Ashton-Reese
D Malgin - D Kampf - N Aube-Kubel

M Rielly - T Brodie
M Giordano - O Kylington
J Muzzin - J Holl


J Huberdeau - E Lindholm - W Nylander
A Mangiapane - N Kadri - T Toffoli
B Coleman - M Backlund - T Lewis
M Lucic - K Rooney - B Ritchie

N Hanifin - R Andersson
M Weegar - C Tanev
N Zadorov - M Stone

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19 Oct 2022 01:57:38
Leafs have no reason to move their best player so far this season. Barely even would help out with cap space. I’m assuming Dube gets buried in AHL and is in there as a cap dump if not then the leafs already have like 6 players with the same skill set of him? So Klyington ( a LHD the leafs don’t need ) and a 1st for the leafs most consistent forward.

Playoff teams don’t just trade top end players mid season also this completely failed to address any needs from the leafs pov.

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19 Oct 2022 16:05:15
I can't see Nylander playing the physical type of game the Flames play. No taking shifts/ periods/ games off with Sutter as the coach.

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21 Oct 2022 10:24:39
I can’t see the fit here for either team. CGY would be over the cap, and Kylington is on IR for “personal reasons”, so that affects whatever trade value he has until it’s know what the deal is.

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18 Oct 2022 19:44:52
Muzzin didn't look okay at all after being hit last night. They called it a neck injury, but with 2 concussions last year alone, at some point the guy has to start thinking about his family (as Marner referred to last night) and his post-career quality of life.

If they can't find a suitable waiver wire pickup, a trading partner who doesn't care about this season or next will be necessary. This likely leaves out 29 teams not named Anaheim, Arizona or Buffalo.
The acquisition cost in assets this early in the season will be exceptionally high, but that's what happens when you mismanage your cap and roster construction.

TOR: Muzzin, 1st ('22), 2nd ('23)

ARI: Ghostisbere

Every fan base over-values their own prospects, but Toronto fans take it to a different level. There are no prospects of broad appeal to other fan bases, so you're left with mortgaging even more futures. It also means you can't bid on Chychrun because you just don't have the pieces to do so.

Ghost is a LD whose deal expires after this year, so the extra 2nd is the cost of ARI taking on the second year of Muzzin's deal.

There's no easy answers to the corner Scooby has painted himself into. The goaltending isn't near good enough either. But Scooby is all out of time and magic beans, so replacing Muzzin won't be cheap in a cap-strapped league.

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18 Oct 2022 20:46:42
Too much for a cap dump from Philly. But, I think a more realistic target could be Collin Miller in Dallas (who has already cleared waivers aswell)

cheaper (1.85m for 2 seasons), right shot. Might cost a 3rd and a small prospect like bobby mcmann, or maybe Adam gaudette for Miller straight up.

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18 Oct 2022 21:48:38
Which rumour are you replying to?

This trade is between TOR & ARI.

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19 Oct 2022 01:59:57
The leafs don’t need Ghost he’d be a waste of an asset I’d much rather Muzzins Physical play then a offensive dman for the 2nd pp. he’d be a better fit for a team like Montreal who has no QB.

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14 Oct 2022 18:55:39
Canucks trade: Boeser, Rathbone

Press trade: Jeannot, Fabbro

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15 Oct 2022 15:14:25
Interesting idea👍 NSH probably negotiates a different piece than Rathbone, but all in all this seems pretty reasonable to me Bean🤜.

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16 Oct 2022 17:49:38
As a long suffering Canucks fan, I would take future considerations, to rid the team of Boeser and his almost 7 million cap hit.

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12 Oct 2022 19:41:19
Jets Stanley
Devils Sseverson

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12 Oct 2022 21:25:19
The Jets shouldn't make this trade as Severson is an older, mistake prone bottom pairing d-man while Stanley is still young and his mistakes are due to his lack of NHL experience, the Jets horrible defensive system, weak coaching and poor mismatched partners.

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12 Oct 2022 23:01:37
I doubt New Jersey looks at that one.

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03 Oct 2022 01:59:19
Yotes. Sandin Knies 1st 2023 kerfoot kallgren
Leafs Chychrun 2nd 2023 3rd 2024

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05 Oct 2022 00:25:07
Not sure what people expect Arizona to get for this guy. There best offer that we know they have gotten was Pulijujarvi and 1st and Arizona countered with Holloway and 1st to which the oilers declined.

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05 Oct 2022 18:43:19
Arizona is in no rush to make a trade for Chychrun. They can take all the time they need. They'll get a haul for him or they'll simply wait.

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05 Oct 2022 23:41:24
They’ll be waiting until he’s a UFA then. Not sure how big of a gap one of Holloway/ Broberg and 1st is from Knies, Sandin and 1st. Honestly I’d prefer Knies and Sandin to a single one of them.

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07 Oct 2022 01:20:23
There is no comparing the EDM and TML packages VB…that’s a joke to think Sandin and Knies = Holloway and Bromberg!

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07 Oct 2022 10:29:59
I don’t think Knies and Sandin=Holloway and Broberg.

I think Knies and Sandin=Holloway

And >Broberg as a 2 for 1

Sandin is still very young probably 2 or 3 years from making an impact. he was among the top 10 youngest dman in the nhl last year. He has all the tools to be a top 4 dman and has good hockey sense. Knies has been excellent in the NCAA last season and is in the top 50 of every prospects rating in every list I have seen.

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01 Oct 2022 23:30:06
Leafs. Chychrun

Yotes sandin Knies kerfoot

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02 Oct 2022 00:32:09
Drop Kerfoot and add a 1st from Toronto.

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02 Oct 2022 21:49:42
A 1st is a given, the eventual return will dwarf this suggestion.

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02 Oct 2022 22:26:25
To get Chychrun, do the Leafs maybe need to part with Nylander for him? If im Arizona, I'd want someone who is young and is an established player.

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30 Sep 2022 17:10:14
Ok let me take another run at this hopefully without get the same tired comment "One sided" that its Calgary trading a bag of pucks for the best player in the league.

Oilers trade Puliarvi, Foegle and a second to Arizona for Chychrun

Arizona trades Puliarvi to Calgary for Kylington and a third.

Edm gets much needed high end defense, Cgy gets much needed skilled right wing, Ari gets a 3rd, a 2nd, and a skilled defensmen who can be used in rebuild or traded for a decent return, foegle can be flipped for a bag of pucks.

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30 Sep 2022 19:07:57
well if you were hoping to not get that comment you will have to change the trade. Chychrun reported asking price is atleast a first and a top prospect. so if your not willing to part with your first and one of broberg, holloway, or Bourgault. then your not getting him. especially for that package pulliarvi has some value but not high enough to get you chychrun.

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30 Sep 2022 22:20:53
Understood Wingsfan 19 and I am actually a Flames fan but I was thinking as a whole picture it is a 2nd,3rd, Kylington for Chychrun plus whatever they can do with Foegle.

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02 Oct 2022 21:51:12
A 1st is a given in the package for Chychrun.

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04 Oct 2022 18:06:00
Kylington has more value as a puck moving D who had a break out season last year than puljaarvi does. So CGY says no. But I’d give a 2nd and middle prospect for Pu.

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30 Sep 2022 11:42:54
Buffalo:
Pierre Engvall LW
Alex Kerfoot C
Justin Holl D

Toronto:
Jeff Skinner LW
(50% retained)

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30 Sep 2022 14:18:36
I'm not sure why Buffalo would do this trade? skinner had a nice bounce back season last season which added to his value and Kerfoot is the only piece from Toronto that has any real value to them and if they are going to retain salary I suspect they are going to want more in the area of picks or prospects not a 4th liner and a 6/ 7 dman trade makes little sense for Buffalo, does not make them better.

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02 Oct 2022 13:32:42
Holy since when do 4th liners but up 50+ points?

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02 Oct 2022 21:52:29
LesHabitants: all you offer are leaf-friendly deals.

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