NHL rumours 9

17 Jul 2024 17:59:02
Toronto and Seattle trade.


TOR: McCann

SEA: Liljegren, Robertson

17 Jul 2024 19:01:02
Lili will be on the leafs top Pairing with Rielly. He’s not amazing (doesn’t have a ton of trade value) but hes a home grown prospect and one of the longest tenured leafs and he won’t be traded.

22 Jul 2024 00:55:32
Lily should be on the bottom pair with OEL.

16 Jul 2024 16:37:37
Colorado Trades
Future Considerations

Toronto Trades
Kampf
Jarnkrok

Avalanche have the cap space with LTIR in place for next season, and need to solidify the 4th line.

Leafs get the well needed cap space to continue to change the roster that Treliving talked about.



Thoughts ?

16 Jul 2024 18:15:43
- What in the world are you talking about?

- COL is over the cap with 4 roster spots open, and their LTIR status offers even more questions than answers.

- They are in a really bad spot with many areas of the roster to address, and no cap space to do so, and you think you’re going to dump bad contracts on them for nothing?

- Is this the point when you realize you’re wrong and rather than admit it, you pretend you were joking? (Weak)

#PinballREALLYNeedsATimeout.

16 Jul 2024 19:26:35
Chickenfoot
Incorrect you better look up their Cap Again.

16 Jul 2024 19:43:36
Every week Pinball takes 5% of his Leafs fan education and he allocates it to some other team. This week, pinball is 95% a Leafs fan and 5% an Avalanche fan.

Because he's only been a part time Avalanche fan for 2 days, pinball thinks he can solve Colorados roster issues by solving Torontos cap issues.

I can totally understand how dumping 2 4th liners for magic beans can be considered a win-win for both teams. Great work on this one pinball, you're definitely onto something big with this blockbuster.

17 Jul 2024 02:25:58
Pinball…as the webmasters said…you are in no position to lecture ANYONE on hockey matters.

Perhaps the news of COL cap and depth issues are new to you, but even passively informed hockey fans know COL is more than a tweak away, and your trade proposal is the ultimate “homer deal / fantasy trade” in more ways than one.

17 Jul 2024 13:46:10
Not in hurry to give up Jarnkrok. Can play all the forward positions in a pinch, just need him to stay healthy. I'm unfamiliar with when LTIR actually kicks in but the space could potentially be there with Nush and Landy on LTIR, but I'm pretty positive Landy is suppose to be good to go.

Avalanche are in genuine cap hell though. Likely going to lose Rantanen at season end. Potentially some tough times ahead for them.

15 Jul 2024 21:38:56
Another option for same trade with leafs and flames

Tor - Minten

Robertson

Jarnkrok

2025 2nd

Calvary - Huberdeau - 50%

15 Jul 2024 22:51:42
Calgary isn’t retaining 5.25 million for 7 years.

15 Jul 2024 21:36:16
Calgary is in rebuild mode and might as well try and off load some assets for picks and prospects.

Tor Minten

Topi Nemela

Jankrok/kampf - cap
Going back

2025 second

Calgary Huberdeau - 50%
Retained

16 Jul 2024 17:02:11
I dont think this work for either team.

13 Jul 2024 22:53:20
Columbus trades
Charlie Elick
3rd round pick

Winnipeg trades
Rutger McGroarty

14 Jul 2024 00:18:37
Unlikely, but maybe if the Jets really like Elick. The Jets are looking for an NHL player or NHL ready prospect. They won't want to be going backwards developmental wise.

Most likely you'll need to check back at the TDL at the earliest. Chevy has set his price and is under no pressure to rush to make a trade.

13 Jul 2024 16:52:04
Just read an article about a trade between PHI and WPG.
WPG
McGoarty
PHI
Konecny
Laughton
2025-2RD

Great trade for WPG for now. Providing they could resign Konecny.
But both player are later 20s.
But Konecny and Scheifele and think would look really good together.
But honestly I can't see this trade happening.

13 Jul 2024 19:47:17
Yeah, I definitely can't see that happening. The players are too old, have too little term left and Konecny isn't extending in Winnipeg.

It's not anything Winnipeg would be looking for in exchange for McGroarty, imo.

13 Jul 2024 22:38:53
Is this guy, not even a top 10 pick, worth that?

14 Jul 2024 05:05:22
Personally I think this is way too much for McGoarty.
So far all I’ve read so far is that really only few teams interested in McGoarty because of his demand of having a NHL roster spot. Montreal, Carolina, and I guess Philadelphia.

14 Jul 2024 17:11:38
Id like to think Chevy would take this deal. Makes the Jets better and deeper going into next season. Only have so many good years left in Helly so the time for being all in for a cup is now for the Jets.

14 Jul 2024 21:40:34
I would think Flyers add Sanheim and a top prospect, because Rutger is a superstar.

15 Jul 2024 01:53:36
superstar? seems more attitude. maybe should be in Toronto.

16 Jul 2024 11:47:38
I wasn't serious.

21 Jul 2024 06:06:49
Whoever wrote this article is a pinball Winnipeg fan. that's like a trade for a allstar, not a fairly upside prospect.

11 Jul 2024 13:01:19
Big trade between Toronoto and Edmonton.

EDM - Marner, Robertson and Liljegren

TOR: Draisaitl

12 Jul 2024 02:51:26
Wow…no….

12 Jul 2024 20:10:12
Edmonton front office: "Dude, dude. you're not going to believe the call I just got from Toronto. lol. it's hilarious. "

21 Jul 2024 06:09:27
In a crazy world that they both say they're not resigning a both teams decide to trade them, Toronto sends a first, a top prospect with the rest of that.

09 Jul 2024 19:41:05
Lilijgren, Timmons & mid-prospect for Vatrano.

Marner & Robertson for Crouse, Guenther & 1st round pick.

Kulak for Harvey-Pinard & 5th round pick.

Leafs sign Shattenkirk $2.5/yr
Oilers sign Suter $1.3/yr

09 Jul 2024 21:35:32
Guenther isn’t going anywhere, he is gonna be a steady 40 goal guy.
Not sure if Anaheim would want that as a return
Habs want kulak back? Do not think so
Don’t see any of this happening.

09 Jul 2024 23:33:43
Nashan
Who is the elite player in this proposal with Utah and who is just about to hit his prime?
Marner was a Top 5 RWinger in points last season and has consistently been a top ELITE player for more than a few years now.
Why are you making Marner out as an average player constantly?
Truthfully Treliving would want more than that package as Guenther is going to be good but not anywhere in the same class as Marner.

10 Jul 2024 14:09:52
I’m not making him out as average. I’m stating that Utah is keeping Guenther. I will add that elite should only be thrown at players that win.

10 Jul 2024 19:56:48
Nashan
So Marcel Dionne and Gilbert Perreault weren't elite players?

10 Jul 2024 23:47:04
You are putting marner in with them? Don’t think so.

10 Jul 2024 23:49:54
Do you even watch anyone else other than the leafs? Doesn’t seem like it.

11 Jul 2024 00:38:13
Nashan
My point is Dionne and Gilbert Perreault never won a Cup.
If you think Marner won't be in The HOF after he retires you are also delusional.
Marner is an elite forward.

11 Jul 2024 01:56:52
Then why trade him?

11 Jul 2024 02:53:07
Marner does better in playoffs than Dionne. ( I think, he was retired before I was born) . Why would the leafs trade a super star? Because they have 3 super stars and Tavares making 45 million.

11 Jul 2024 15:46:38
Dionne actually slightly higher points per game. Funny you say leafs have 4 superstars. You think if they were actually superstars they would have achieved something. Tavares contract done next year, so I say again if he is that good you think try to keep him at all cost. Lol.

11 Jul 2024 18:42:05
Dude let’s say Edmonton had Makar, Mackinnon, Paniran, McDavid, Bedard and a prime Wayne Gretzky. How are they going to keep all of them under the cap? Super stars are expensive and you need depth.

13 Jul 2024 14:59:02
the issue isn't having a lot of superstars. it is overpaying 2 of them before they deserved it.

09 Jul 2024 01:56:50
Wpg Trade Ehlers ans Mcgroarty

Mtl Trade Dvorak 1 st Pick protect top 3 and Mailloux or Hutson.

09 Jul 2024 02:24:17
The Jets aren't taking back a cap dump in an Ehlers or McGroarty trade.

True North wouldn't be interested in Mailloux due to his character issues.

I can't see Montreal trading Hutson.

10 Jul 2024 14:42:47
Too much from MTL. they don't need Ehlers in their rebuild. Ehlers should be somewhere contending now at 28.

11 Jul 2024 18:56:18
Winnipeg definitely takes back a cap dump if this is offered.

26 Jul 2024 12:25:57
There's a pretty significant difference in value between Hutson and Mailloux. I'm sure the jets would be interested in a 1 for 1 deal (Mcgroarty for Hutson) but I doubt MTL would agree

08 Jul 2024 19:45:35
SJ Trades
Future Considerations

Toronto Trades
Kampf*
NRobertson (RFA)

*Kampf will have to waive his NTC to complete the transaction.



With Cap being an issue with Toronto Kampf imo is the one that has to go, you have to add NRobertson for The Sharks to take on Kampf's remaining 3 years.



Thoughts ?

08 Jul 2024 21:48:23
What cap issue? The leafs can run a 22 man roster and be under the cap. Just can’t run 23 players.

08 Jul 2024 22:10:44
Not enough from the leafs. Thoughts, my senators had to shed a 3rd to send joseph packing. 27 year old joseph, a 35 point man with a Stanley cup ring and 2 years left at 2.9
Kampf at 29 years old, a 19 point man with 3 years left at 2.5 would need something other than a disgruntled RFA forward who requested a trade. The sharks would want better compensation for taking on a contract that the leafs had no problems giving out to the guy just one year ago.

09 Jul 2024 02:50:06
Facelift39
NRobertson to start had only 8 points less in 16 fewer games, why are you focused on Kampf only? NRobertson is the prize for SJ and better than Joseph hands down as well as 5 years younger.
Prime example of focusing on one player when it comes to Leaf proposals.
Why would SJ want a 22 year old winger who is only getting better in your thinking.
Plus Joseph makes more than Kampf not a lot more but more regardless.
SJ isn't giving up anything for 2 NHL Players with NRobertson in the Top 6 on SJ.

09 Jul 2024 02:52:09
Vbb
Incorrect as DeWar isn't signed yet and they don't have enough Cap for DeWar.

09 Jul 2024 05:44:57
Right well that’s depends on how much he signs for. The obvious choice to go is Timmons.

09 Jul 2024 11:41:05
Detroit had to give San Jose a 2nd round pick to dump Walmans $3.4m contract.

Robertson has no trade value, in your own proposals you've gone from using Robertson as the main piece of trades to try and get Zegras, Chychrun and many others.

Now you're saying he's a throwaway to dump Kampfs contract. Figure it out pinball. Add a 2nd round draft pick and stop being such a crybaby when people give you a reality check on how these cap dump trades work.

09 Jul 2024 18:25:12
Robertson, a 2-way player with 27 points and 5 seasons under his belt does not hold the value you are suggesting. an NHL top 6? 😂 😂 😂.

09 Jul 2024 18:50:20
DRW. thanks for bringing some hockey sense to this thread once again. YEESH! Yep, SJ is going to take on bad leaf contracts for absolutely nothing (aka "future considerations". )

10 Jul 2024 04:26:27
Chickenfoot
didn't Dallas just trade Faska to The Blues for future considerations and didn't have to add anything?
You going to tell me Faska and Kampf aren't comparable?
Oh right only if Faska was a Leaf then no team will take on that contract.
You do realize your bias is obvious right?
I don't mind people disagreeing with me that's part of the site, but accept mine when you get it back without insults, unless you are an adolescent and have obvious growing up to do, your responses are usually very immature.

12 Jul 2024 03:01:17
PINBALl…absolutely hilarious. (and without even trying. )

- you ask me to accept your feedback, and reply without insults.

- then you insult by saying, AND I QUOTE: “unless you are an adolescent and have obvious growing up to do, your responses are usually very immature”.

You just can’t make this stuff up, so I think I’ll let your words say it all. WELL PLAYED! YOU’RE DOING GREAT👍😂.

12 Jul 2024 19:58:00
Chickenfoot
That was my sarcasm at the end.
I said it because I knew you would point it out lol.

07 Jul 2024 15:59:43
Possibly off the wall trade proposal.
WPG
Ehlers
CAL
Sharangovich
2025-3Rd.

Sharangovich may not bring the offence that Ehlers can. But he did have a good season and he brings more grit than Ehlers and better defensively. Also he can play all three forward positions. May need work on face offs tho.
Many would see this as more of a lateral move. But I feel it brings more options.

07 Jul 2024 17:21:28
I think the Flames will stick with Sharongovic. I beleive they also just re-signed him to a new long term deal.

07 Jul 2024 19:23:47
Calgary just extended Sharangovich, they're not trading him.

08 Jul 2024 14:12:00
I agree that it doesn't look like they will trade him given the extension, but you never know. remember Dubois.

08 Jul 2024 18:25:24
He quietly had a solid season. What’s sharangovichs deal i admittedly don’t know a lot about him who is he as a player? Something like a Zacha?

09 Jul 2024 01:08:09
I had no idea that Sharangovich just signed an extension. Never checked. My bad.