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09 Jul 2019 12:51:35
WPG: Comrie, 3rd Round Pick 2020
EDM: Puljujärvi

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09 Jul 2019 16:30:01
If that's the return for Edmonton, my aswell sit him and pet him go play in the khl. Comrie is a nearly useless trade chip.

09 Jul 2019 19:07:29
No thanks from Winnipeg. To much for Puljujarvi.

09 Jul 2019 20:02:58
Comrie needs a decent chance to play and he hasn't gotten it in Wpg and is being chased by Berdin as the #1
goalie on the Moose. In Edmonton he will be an inexpensive #3 goalie and should get a fair chance at developing under Holland. Comrie and a 3rd seems fair compensation for a disappointing Pully, but I like Pully.

09 Jul 2019 20:05:07
@shootsmcgee
What do you mean? Eric Comrie is a really good goalie prospect that’s pretty much ready to be an NHL goalie but the Jets’ depth was pretty deep. You’re forgetting that goalies take much longer to develop.

Also, no from Edmonton. Why do we need another goalie? Our goalie prospect pool is already one of the deepest in the league.
Starrett, Wells, Skinner, Hawkey, Rodrigue, Konovalov.

09 Jul 2019 23:49:18
Tyba4, that my reasoning is Edmonton doesn't need another goalie, comrie is a decent prospect but only for the right team. His ahl stats are good, not great and has floundered when he has got a chance in the nhl. Could turn out to be a great goalie but has not proved anything. Puljujarvi has at least proven he's an nhl player. No where close to what he shoulda been but at least a serviceable nhler. He hasn't exactly been given the best opportunities either and rushed.

10 Jul 2019 03:52:16
Puljujarvi won’t bring hardly anything in return right now. Especially after publicly demanding a trade. Edmonton is better playing him to let try and earn some value back this year first, then trade him at the deadline when return will be higher.

10 Jul 2019 06:10:46
@shootsmcgee
Yeah, you’re right my bad thought you meant that Comrie had no value in general.

09 Jul 2019 10:51:19
Chicago: anisimov
ottawa: 2021 3rd.

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10 Jul 2019 00:09:49
I'd take a 5th or 6th for anisimov but after the bonus he's only owed 3.5 mil I think for two seasons in actual money so maybe a team like Ottawa or carolina might bite.

10 Jul 2019 03:54:49
While he isn’t worth his AAV, Anisimov is still a useful player. He’s at least as good as Grabner, who got a 2nd in trade return.

09 Jul 2019 03:04:30
Was thinking maybe Kerfoot could be a 60 + point guy if played in a top 6 role as a winger in Toronto. He has speed to keep up. So

Tor:Nylander

Dallas:Faksa,3rd 2019

Yes obviously Faksa is a 30 point center but he's great at everything like Kadri was, bring physicality and a solid 2 way game. The fact that Nylander is about 1.5 million overpaid does take away some of his value but he's still getting a good player in this trade imo. Leafs also save enough money to make a very solid offer to Marner

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09 Jul 2019 04:09:22
No from the Leafs 100%.

Faksa a career third line centre.

So you’re trading a forward who had one bad year and is also very young for a career third liner and a third round pick? Seriously?

09 Jul 2019 05:16:08
Big no from TO, one bad season and he fetches a 3rd and a 3rd line center? Give me a break

10 Jul 2019 03:57:34
Take our Faksa and the 3rd and replace with Lindell.

09 Jul 2019 01:55:25
Detroit:Hronek

EDM:Puljujarvi,Bear,2rd2019

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09 Jul 2019 00:41:13
Oilers - Puljujärvi

Islanders - Ho-Sang & 3rd


Oilers sign Valeri Nichushkin ( 975 @ 1YR )
(Show me what you can do contract)



Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Connor McDavid - Josh Ho-Sang

Joakim Nygard - Leon Draisaitl - Alex Chiasson

Jujhar Khaira - Markus Granlund - Valeri Nichushkin

Milan Lucic - Gaetan Haas - Sam Gagner

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09 Jul 2019 01:36:35
Poor oilers fans atleast McDavid is fun to watch.

08 Jul 2019 23:05:51
This was rumoured, every ranger fan seems to love it haha. What do you guys think?

James Neal for Marc Staal & Third Round Draft Pick

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09 Jul 2019 00:17:09
Being in Alberta I'd like to see calgary give neal another chance but interesting. close cap hit but would hinder Calgarys chance to give valimaki and Rasmussen both a chance to get regular playing time. But one of stone or Brodie but both rd.

09 Jul 2019 00:51:31
Any sane rangers fan wouldn't like it.

09 Jul 2019 16:44:29
Hitchcock was quoted saying Puljujarvi is capable of being a 3rd line guy. And I’d argue he’s there right now. He’s heavy on the forecheck and has speed when he uses it. If he spends a year developing in the finish league then he can potentially play on Nuges wing in 2 seasons.

In saying that I don’t know if Dallas would do it. Do they have a replacement for Faksa? I’d consider it as an Oil fan though.

08 Jul 2019 22:42:35
Dallas:Faksa

EDM:Pulijujarvi

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09 Jul 2019 01:33:14
I’d say that’s a fat no from Dallas. A proven guy like Faksa for Pulj doesn’t seem like a smart move.

09 Jul 2019 02:58:34
Ya Vertius I get what your saying. The way I saw it was Faksa is a solid third line center right? Well Puljujarvi has first line potential, but also potential to end up being a star in the Liiga for his whole career. So it's like a gamble they take ya know?

09 Jul 2019 17:19:37
Yeah, I get you. I suppose Dallas would be a team that could benefit from that risk.

08 Jul 2019 17:21:49
Rangers:Mark Stall,Buchnevich,DeAngelo

MTL:6 Rd pick 2020

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08 Jul 2019 17:57:34
Way to much to dump Staal. Take out Buchnevich.

08 Jul 2019 18:31:43
I can’t see MTL taking Staal on anyway. They already have enough bad contracts. They consider themselves competitive and playoff contenders sets next year. Only want players that help win now. Rumor is they are leading team for Gardiner.

08 Jul 2019 19:43:15
Lias Anderson at a discount for taking on stall I would consider.

08 Jul 2019 22:36:08
Is Lias Anderson that good that we couldn't get him for taking Stall?

09 Jul 2019 00:55:57
Lias Anderson is a good solid prospect might never be a huge scorer but I think he will develop in a good two way player he's good enough that the rangers are not just going to give him away but they have a few young guys who have been better up to this point like howden and chiytl so he may be a bit cheaper then he would have probably been last season.

09 Jul 2019 03:48:27
Ok thanks Habby, I looked at his stats and nothing screamed top offensive threat. But he's only 20 and he plays center and 2 way center can take as much time to develop as defensemen's can so I don't doubt at all what your saying.

09 Jul 2019 23:36:55
Yah I think Rangers part with Lias Andersson before Buchnevich.

08 Jul 2019 17:17:17
Toronto:Nylander, Lilijegreen, Ceci

Buff:Ristonlainen



Toronto top 4 D


Rielly-Risto

Muzzin-Barrie

Now that's a solid defense

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08 Jul 2019 17:58:22
Nylander=Risto no need to add but they can take Ceci if they want.

08 Jul 2019 18:32:42
Ristolainen is definitely not worth Nylander. Not even close.

08 Jul 2019 18:33:53
And again, I very much doubt he gets traded to a division rival.

08 Jul 2019 18:35:37
And I thought Trouba was getting overvalued on this site.

09 Jul 2019 16:17:37
Ristolainen is not as good as people think.

09 Jul 2019 17:02:59
And he's not as bad as the other people think either.

08 Jul 2019 10:51:31
Toronto: Nylander

Buffalo:2rd 2020,2rd 2021

Similar to the first Andrew Shaw trade, Thoughts?

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08 Jul 2019 12:54:41
Then Nylander puts up 80 points beside Skinner and Eichel. Nylander is following a similar development path as Huberdeau.

What about Kotekinemi for 2nd 2020 and 2nd 2021.

08 Jul 2019 13:35:56
1) that doesn’t make sense VB as this is a trade with buffalo not Montreal.
2) Kotkaniemi is a Center who just turned 19 plays well in his own end and still on a ELC.
3) Nylander is not following a path huberdeau took, as his down year the whole team was horrible putting all the offence on him, while Nylander was playing with great players and given every chance to score. But rn you can’t compare Nylander to either Kotkaniemi or Huberdeau because they are different in most aspects.

08 Jul 2019 14:02:13
Nylander played the brunt of the year on the 3rd line. Nylander will be much better this year.

08 Jul 2019 14:04:45
By no means do I think Nylander is close to MacKinnon but I remember 2 years ago people started calling MacKinnon a bust. His 5th year is when he really hit his stride. Nylander will be better.

08 Jul 2019 14:06:51
Meant to say Nylander would be better this year, not better than MacKinnon.

08 Jul 2019 15:05:05
Nylander could get a little more. Maybe a B level prospect too. But not as much as Leaf fans think.
If Detroit pushing for Marner I’d imagine Detroit asks for somebody like Rasmussen in return + picks.

08 Jul 2019 15:34:49
TyBa no idea what you were trying to say. But Marner will not be leaving Toronto. Nylander spent 90% of this season on the 3rd/ 4th line how is that surrounded by talent?

Also I was making that Kotekeniami comparison because Detroit Mantha is a Habs fan.

08 Jul 2019 15:42:10
Nylander might have been put on the 3rd line at season end but most minutes played with as a line was with Johnsson and Matthew, so not bad line mates. Next was Kadri and Marleau again not bad line mates.

08 Jul 2019 15:57:28
No it was not so you have statistics to prove that?

08 Jul 2019 17:03:46
I'm not a Nylander fan, as I don't think he's worth his contract, however you can't compare him to shaw. Nylander was still a .5 point per game player last year, on a5% shooting percent. Half his normal.

Shaw put up his first strong points season at 27. Most likely nylander gets back to 60+points and shaw comes down to 40 points over a full season.

Nylander probably won't be traded, but to trade him after a weak season makes no sense. Here's the kind of depth piece that can come alive in playoffs and win series.

08 Jul 2019 17:46:37
Nylander is worth a lot more than 2x2nd. And I very much doubt he will be traded to a division rival.

08 Jul 2019 19:44:19
Nylander***
Come on VB I know I made a typo but that didn’t make the statement completely not understandable.

08 Jul 2019 20:03:13
VB according to frozenpool. com Nylander spent 22.15% on Even strength time with Johnsson and Matthews, 14.61% with Kadri and Brown,13.61% with Kadri and Marleau, 9.4% with Marleau and Brown, 4.27% with Matthews and Kapanen and 3.43% with Kadri and Johnsson. Rest of the combos were under 3% but that accounts for 2/ 3 of his even strength ice time. Corsica. hockey also has Johnsson/ Matthews (173 min) Brown/ Kadri (118) Kadri/ Marleau (108) and Brown/ Marleau (76) as his most common line mates. We all know that you find Kadri Johnsson Matthews as legit top 6 or better players.

08 Jul 2019 21:55:01
Well I’ve watched the leafs a lot and especially towards the end of the season he spent the majority of the time on the 4th/ 3rd line I find those stats hard to believe but I’ll take the L on this one and admit I was proven wrong but I’m sure anyone will agree Nylander has a lot more then he showed this season.

08 Jul 2019 22:02:48
@jbs they said the same thing about brown not playing with Matthews and how he didn't need to play with Matthews to score 20 goals a year. The so called leaf expert biased Jim didn't even know brown had scored the majority of his goals from his one 20 goal year actually playing on a line with Matthews lol and when they took him off the line well we all know what hapoened.

08 Jul 2019 23:52:08
Nylander has a lot more then he showed this season, wich is why he still has positive value. But another season like he just had, that 7 million avg contract is going to start looking like Milan's Lucic.

09 Jul 2019 06:01:59
I have no doubt Nylander will bounce back, I think missing training camp really hurt him. But he was given a lot of opportunity to play in the top 9 last season just couldn’t get on the score sheet. If I remember correctly his underlying numbers weren’t even that bad, just wasn’t getting on the sheet. For what it’s worth when it comes to lines I’m going to trust the stat collectors over eye tests since lines will change often and these places are dedicated to tracking that.

09 Jul 2019 06:04:24
Like Nylander still averaged 15.5 minutes a game, about a minute less than last year so his opportunities couldn’t have been limited that much year over year.

09 Jul 2019 23:34:51
That's a Dream Trade for Buffalo.
It's not enough nor will it ever happen.

10 Jul 2019 10:11:17
I miss read a bit and top was Kadri and Brown but still he played a great deal with all.

 


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