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03 Oct 2019 15:12:33
to San Jose
Howard

to Detroit
Jones
2nd

San Jose can't afford to have jones any longer. I wouldn't have such a high pick if it were not for the fact that Jones has a long time still on his contract, and Detroit will probably have to buy him out.

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03 Oct 2019 16:31:45
I am not completely opposed to this but the term would make me want additional compensation. It’s another 4 years as he heads into his 30s.

Plus we will have other young players we need to pay with upcoming expiry dates. His cap hit as you mentioned could lead to a buyout. Detroit is trying to get out of the current cap trouble.

So not likely to happen, we may be ok helping out with a 1-2 year bad contract for a price. This may be too long.

03 Oct 2019 16:55:52
However, I could see Howard being sent to the Sharks as a rental for a solid 1B for Jones.

There were rumours the Sharks were interested in him last years deadline as well.

02 Oct 2019 19:09:45
MTL: Hall

NJ: Peohling, Mete, Gallagher, plus 2 second round picks.

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02 Oct 2019 19:55:29
I think this deal is good

If jersey sees or gets the feeling they can't resign hall then this is a more than acceptable trade offer.

Maybe to sweetin the pot a bit offer a conditional 1st if hall resigns on the 2020 and a 2nd if he doesn't

Also put a condition on that if gallagher resigns with jersey, jersey owes montreal a 2nd in 2022

Still one heck of an offer. love to have gallagher on my team any day.

02 Oct 2019 20:27:19
3rd line center, top 4 d, 1st line rw, 2 2nds? Are you out of your mind?! No from Montreal

02 Oct 2019 20:51:56
All this for a ufa? don't think so.

03 Oct 2019 00:35:56
All this. And doesn’t fill the most pressing need. Actually takes away a left handed Defenseman. Value wise. I see the potential.

03 Oct 2019 01:37:02
If hall gets traded there's definitely a 1st involved.

03 Oct 2019 04:23:35
MTL would need to give up a lot in order to acquire a player of Hall's caliber and talent. When he's fully healthy, he's an 85-95 pt a season first liner. So, several pieces would likely need to be offered by Habs to entice NJ to seriously mull over an offer. Gallagher is the key component of this offer. Poehling, Mete and the 2 2nd rounders are all secondary components. Obviously, we can always tweak the offer by substraction and addition.

03 Oct 2019 06:03:26
Wgmj. But, there is several pieces in this proposal. The first 6/ 7 lines of your response made me 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️.

03 Oct 2019 15:25:47
This looks like a trade for someone who has a contract, not a UFA. I think it would be less if its a rental and more if he was under contract.
As for team needs, I don't think MTL would go for this.

03 Oct 2019 16:24:20
Its jus to much to give. Yes Hall is a great talent.
However, is one player worth all that? Some will say quality is worth more than quantity, which is true, but Gallagher is a quality player as well. Mete, is a young Dman only getting better all the time, and his absence would decimate an already weak side on Habs D. Poehling, I think has all the tools to be a solid top 6 . Most will say 3rd liner, until he plays regular in the NHL, I suppose the 3rd line argument wins. 2 2nds, could be another Gallagher or Subban ect. so I dunno. I'm not for sending 5, 6 peices for 1. K tear me apart now guys.

04 Oct 2019 15:57:40
Duchene got 2 first, a 3rd and a goalie. 1 of the 1st was drafted the year before but still a 1st. He was ufa. It's the price to pay.

04 Oct 2019 16:45:19
Way too much for a rental player as Hall is a UFA after this season. 2nd round pick and maybe one longshot prospect would be the rental rate for a UFA who's got the mindset already of bolting to the highest bidder this year. and Yes Hall will be bolting. Montreal offering up those players would need to get back someone with term on their contract.

Foolish move on Montreal's part to liquidate that much talent for 1 year worth of Hall's service.
Better idea to keep the talent and go get him next year as a UFA. but it's going to cost some bucks to get him.

04 Oct 2019 17:19:28
Shoot are you talking about the first trade or the second?

05 Oct 2019 02:08:21
This is the most lopsided trade proposal I’ve seen in months. And I only been on here a few weeks. Why anyone team makes this trade is unknown. Why would Montreal even consider this?

02 Oct 2019 18:56:04
MTL: Parayko

St Louis: Drouin

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02 Oct 2019 19:02:50
Lol. I’m going to get some 🍿🍿.

02 Oct 2019 19:30:28
Montreal would need a pretty nice add to get St. Louis interested.

02 Oct 2019 19:44:34
As much as I hate agreeing with what Colt will say but not close for Parayko.

02 Oct 2019 20:03:45
Yikes, hate to see the aftermath of this conversation

Ok ok. let's say st. louis was going to trade parayko (hypothetically)

Lets also say drouin was the centerpiece going back (hypothetically and why? )

Im pretty sure st. louis would want to build their prospect pool up with this type of deal

Would
Caufield, Peohling and Brook
Be enough to influence Armstrong?

02 Oct 2019 20:55:29
MTL wouldn't give those 3 prospects for Parayko.

02 Oct 2019 21:20:22
And st Louis has no interest in trading parayko. Why would they guy is a stud. He even killed a guy.

03 Oct 2019 05:04:18
Well after what Redwing said St Louis adds Thompson and a first. If MTL is acquiring a player that commited a murder, we better get compensated for paying the bail.

03 Oct 2019 06:13:12
He killed bishop with his slap shot lol.

03 Oct 2019 06:48:10
Parayko gets more than druoin straight up. And I don't think it's close. And don't think STL looking to trade their 2nd best de for up and comers. Even though good pieces, they don't equal win now.

03 Oct 2019 08:04:22
Colt, What are you talking about 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️.

03 Oct 2019 15:09:21
The slap shot was in Dallas game where parayko wound up nailed bishop in chest bishop went down like a dead fish and Steen put in the rebound.

03 Oct 2019 15:28:03
Parayko will have a down year i think. Taken off the 2nd PP is going to hurt him.

03 Oct 2019 16:51:32
You know people have been saying that he was going to have a down year since he has been in league. Just hasn't happened yet.

03 Oct 2019 17:46:34
Maybe if Gunnarsson and Mete where added in the deal you have something there. But still feel Montreal would need a forward going back as well and Montreal would have to add a Top Prospect to as players like Parayko are hard to come by.

03 Oct 2019 20:02:11
Hows this

To mont
Parayko, gunnarson and fabbri

To st. L
Drouin, mete, juulsen, ylonen, olofsson

Yeah that's about right and every nhl team would hate to play montreal with weber and parayko. keep your head up the bash brothers are going to get yeah.

St. louis builds their future D to add to dunn since jaybo will retire at some point. They also get some descent prospects but not amazing and drouin (although don't think he is the prize here) .

03 Oct 2019 21:08:26
Yeah I'm sure a deal just wouldn't happen start with jk and add. Lol.

04 Oct 2019 01:15:28
JK, drouin, mete, brook
For
Parayko, steen, fabbri, torpochenko (way off on that spelling)

Am i close yet.

04 Oct 2019 12:57:08
Thomas And Paryanko for Kucherov.

04 Oct 2019 14:21:35
Now its Tampas turn to hang up.

04 Oct 2019 16:00:33
That's a funny joke vbb.

04 Oct 2019 16:58:41
Don't think Montreal has the assets to attain Paraynko.

Drouin may net Boumeester in trade, but St Louis doesn't have a lot of cap space and would need Montreal to retain about 2M in salary.

Realistically I don't see St Louis trading anyone. Even Peiterangelo whos a UFA so they could try to do something that hasn't happened in a long time. Repeat as the Champs.

05 Oct 2019 02:11:10
Didn’t Pittsburgh just repeat as champs a couple years ago?

02 Oct 2019 11:53:12
to Anaheim
McLeod
2nd
5th

to NJ
Rakell

the devils still could use some depth and this would be high end depth.

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02 Oct 2019 12:43:10
Not a bad start to this deal. Michael McLeod hasn't quite lived up to his hype quite yet but he is definetly a descent piece.

I think if Jersey adds in another prospect this deal might go somewhere.

good proposal.

02 Oct 2019 15:02:06
I think Anaheim would want more for Rakell. They are in a rebuild so i think they would want better picks or another prospect.

02 Oct 2019 15:51:35
Maybe adding one of Xavier Bernard, Nathan Bastian, Jesper Boqvist or Fabian Zetterlund and a extra 2nd to the original deal might intrigue Aniheim a little more.

02 Oct 2019 20:27:52
Rakell is worth more

01 Oct 2019 02:49:23
WPG: Appleton
EDM: Pulujarvi

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01 Oct 2019 13:15:56
oilers will wait out the whole pulju thing, if a great offer won't come before 1 december they will let him play a year in Finland


Oilers want more than appleton and i understand them.

01 Oct 2019 13:20:17
Nope. The Jets have zero need for wingers.

01 Oct 2019 17:46:23
Definite no from edmonton

01 Oct 2019 17:51:37
I like Pully but he still hasn't proved he is a true NHL player. Appleton who was the AHL's rookie of the year but he had a lukewarm preseason. However he still has played better on the Jets 4th line than Pully playing with McD and Draisaitl. Having said this I would make the trade as I like Pully.

01 Oct 2019 18:38:00
Puljujarvi probably had a handful of shifts with those two. Don’t know where to look it up but unless you have don’t go giving false facts. Puljujarvi is 2 years younger with higher potential. Ohh yeah and if he played a full season in the AHL he’d probably beat Appleton’s points.

01 Oct 2019 21:15:56
Yeah if he would have played in the AHL bla bla bla. But the Oilers as per usual ruined him by keeping him on their roster way before he was ready. Now he hates them and wants out. He's worth a lot less to most teams than what the Oilers hope to get for him, mainly to save face. He isn't worth Appleton but I like his potential. Unfortunately he has to be trained to be an NHL player from square one so he would be a challenge.

01 Oct 2019 21:17:37
Id just like to see pulujarvi with laine or even see him with aho in carolina.
I think if he plays with guys he is familiar with it would really turn his career around.

I said the same about yakupov. if only he got one chance to play with galchynuk it might of changed things for him.

The whole coulda woulda shoulda it means nothing now.

02 Oct 2019 00:00:48
Sooooo did he play with McDavid and Draisaitl or nah? I’m actually looking forward to him in Europe for a full season and hopefully he agrees to come back next season. As far as Yakupov goes, all he needed was a chance with good players.

02 Oct 2019 06:11:43
Haha, Marcus won't trade a guy at the same position that clearly has no nhl future for a guy that may find his potential and be a top 50 player? Poor guy. Actually impressive he can spell dispite his mental condition. Island is crazy but not completely insane.

02 Oct 2019 14:17:21
Shoots your comments are a pathetic joke as you never add anything to a conversation but childish name calling and blatant uninformed babble about how you hate a post or someone's comment. It's sad how little you know about hockey and even less about being able to contribute to a post without being a vile child. You as anyone can disagree with a post or comment but the way you do it shows an embarrassing lack of maturity. Grow up it's only a fun rumors/ post page.

02 Oct 2019 15:24:39
Easy there island man. You and Marcus post some pathetic comments yourselves.

03 Oct 2019 01:53:50
Ok island, I'll play your game. I clearly said Appleton is a career ahl player and pool still can find his potential. That's not an opinion? If someone is completely bias I have no problem saying it. Marcus repeatedly is so wrong. If someone says something I don't agree with I say it in a nice civil way. If someone continues to make an ass out of themselves I will say it also. Most trades on here don't involve my team but know of most players in the league. If I don't know the prospect, I will not comment. Just the over and under evaluations of players Marcus shows means he doesn't know much.

03 Oct 2019 07:08:56
Sorry, just had to add how you guys think frolik is garbage and how much better perrault is and no response after saying stats and you guys proposing ridiculous trades for him. I provided numbers for both and got no response. That means you guys walked away with your tail tucked between your legs. STOP being so Homer's. If I speak truth and numbers it doesn't compute so have to come down a few levels to communicate. Not trying to be a dick but so hard to say anything to you guys. So wrong on every trade. You can check, I said Laine would get 6.75-7.25 . How do I don't know hockey? You said something not even close. I'll look it up when I have free time.

03 Oct 2019 15:54:02
Not saying you don’t know hockey because you might. But guessing Laines salary doesn’t prove you know hockey. These RFA signings are a bit of crapshoot.

03 Oct 2019 17:33:57
Ok eb, just gave an example. Not trying to say I know everything about nhl. I'm just a fan of hockey. But just saying people should be realistic. Not signing a guy coming off a 50 point season getting 7×11. Gotten way off topic so I'll leave it. As for the trade, Winnipeg wins easily even if pool plays in the nhl cause appleton never will, call up for injury maybe.

03 Oct 2019 18:36:22
I think your right. And I agree these Jets guys are a little much. Lol but just to argue and go off topic a little more I’ll bring up Keller’s contract. 7.15M for 8 years coming off a 47 point season. I think if Laine didn’t bet on himself he probably could have gotten a long term deal in the 8-9M range.

04 Oct 2019 16:07:46
If he gave a poop last year and tried and not complained about his linemates who probably hate him now, probably could have got in the 10 mil range long term, but he acted like a baby and jets want to see if he can grow up.

30 Sep 2019 23:40:36
To Dallas
Robert Thomas

To St.Louis
Ty Dellandrea
Jason Robertson

Both dallas players put up huge ohl numbers which ironically were both better than morgan frost numbers. Since morgan Frost is apparently a future 1C must mean dellandrea is a future 1C and robertson is a future 1RW..this clearly means they have more value than thomas who is also apparently a future 1C.

2 future #1 players is better than 1

Thoughts

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01 Oct 2019 00:06:56
I’m liking where this is going actually. This RedWing wants to pick fights on your home turf, so you carry it over to his. Make sure a lot of sense to me actually.

Thomas has 9 goals last year and Frost is buried in the minors behind three payers of proven high talent. Neither one will make the nhl in any capacity if they don’t step up significantly. I wouldn’t be surprised if either they both get traded or they both fade away.

01 Oct 2019 00:27:19
Ok blues say no. Robert thomas was amazing in the playoffs as a rookie soon to be future 1c for blues. So nope.

01 Oct 2019 09:47:05
Hmmm, since when is 1g,5a, 6 points, -2 in 21 games in playoffs amazing? Sounds like a future 4th line center. But know you would say that's absolutely garbage if he played for any other team and call him a ahl player. Way to many delusional Homer's here
Feel embarrassed for guys like redwing and Marcus.

01 Oct 2019 10:14:29
Not a chance from the Blues POV Thomas is on the blues top PP.

01 Oct 2019 10:39:52
Hey let's go a step further here

To wash
Robert thomas

To st. louis
Connor mcmicheal and a cond 2nd round pick any time if thomas ever becomes a legit 1C washington gives them a 2nd rounder that draft after he becomes a 1C

Thomas for mcmicheal and picks happened in jr and guess what mcmicheal has already done better than thomas did as a 17 year old and is going to get 100 points this year as a 18 year old. By redwing1 logic mcmicheal is going to be a future 1C even more than thomas will because he has more points in jr.

01 Oct 2019 11:32:49
Once again blues say no. He was the driving force behind third line as a 19 year old. Kid is amazing. He is the reason maroon looked good. thomas did all the footwork. Once again blues say no. he is untouchable.

01 Oct 2019 17:57:04
Erik johnson, david perron and robbie fabbri

What do they all have in common with thomas?

During their first season starting as 19 year olds put up very simular stats. In fact fabbri and johnson put up better stats and yet johnson was a defencemen.

How did all heir futures work out.

Top 4 defencive defenceman, middle 6-9 forwads and barely making st. louis roster today. don't get your hopes up too much on thomas. He might if he is lucky mimic christian dvoreks career. Not a bad player but deffinetly not a #1C . dvorek was even better in jr sooooo.

01 Oct 2019 18:34:25
Casey middlestadt, sam reinhardt, sam bennett. more players who at 19 look as good or better than thomas.

Are any of these guys future #1C. if your answer is no then neither is thomas. simply put.

01 Oct 2019 18:35:27
Johnson is still number one in col

Fabbri blew his knee out twice.

Craigger these have nothing to do with each other lol good try though.

01 Oct 2019 20:02:05
Actually they do. These guys all at 19 played in nhl and put up better stats than thomas did. The differance is noone annoited them future#1 in their position. Johnson had future #1 potential due to his draft spot. The others not so much.

Youve got to realize not every player who makes nhl at 19 and did well in jr is a future #1. In fact every draft only ever gets 3-5 future #1 come true.

Thomas is and always has been projected as a #2 C by every scout. Heck coming out of jr he was tagged as a 3rd line C. He has worked his way into a top 6 player but not a #1C.

You say us leaf fans are delusional but at 18 our future #1 C cracked open a can of whoop on the league and became a stud from the get go. the leafs had got back to back 60 point seasons before turning 20 from a winger then even he exploded for 94 points before he turned 21. These are definitions of top players. Future #1C and top end winger talent is reserved for guys like these players. Saying we as leaf fans are delusional makes you delusional.

Thomas can't even lace up matthews skates so saying thomas is a future #1 C is disrespectful when Guys like matthews, aho, point are all 10 levels ahead of thomas and they did it at age 18-19.thats when they were future#1 C . by 20 they were #1C

Kyrou can barely get on the blues. Calling him a top end winger prospect is disrespectful to guys like marner, laine, tkachuk, rantanen, connor. guys who all before 20 were dubbed the next wave of high end wingers. By 20 they were high end wingers. if kyrou was so high end why is he considered an older prospect and hadnt done a thing. delusion is coming from you.

01 Oct 2019 21:48:17
I love how you make rubbish up. Sure Mathews is better n2ver said he wasn't. I think it's amazing how much b's you wrote to try and prove you are not delusional. Please find me 1 scout who projected him at 2c or 3c. Also how is Mathews cup coming lol.

01 Oct 2019 22:02:56
Also kyrou is recovering from surgery. Kyrou is better than bracco and a year younger why hasn't bracco made the team lol. Craigger don't you ever change.

02 Oct 2019 02:32:30
Were you a different account before Craigger?

02 Oct 2019 09:58:10
Ive never said that bracco is the next future #1 guy. He got lost in the leafs depth at RW. He can pass but isn't fast can't play defence but has good edges. He would do good if put with one of matthew or tavares and is a waste as a 3rd or 4th liner due to he doesn't play D. Once marner signed his future with the leafs was badically over. He is a point a game player in the AHL and might do better this year but its probably in best interest of the leafs to deal him with another player to make a quantity for quality kind of deal.

I can see the good and the things players need to work on to be effective hockey players. You won't ever see me annoiting them titles that in reality they can't become. that's a lot of pressure to put on a kid. The sooner you learn to the realization of what you have now the less youll be disappointed in the future. Keep the scouting to those of us whom get paid to do it.

02 Oct 2019 12:03:33
Actually Craigger like I said in another post Point didn’t play in the NHL at 18 or 19. He’s a smaller player and was sent back to junior in hopes he’d fill out a bit. He put up 40 points as a 20 year old rookie playing mostly in the bottom 6, 66 as a middle 6 player at 21 and then broke 90 last year at 22. He was also pegged as a 3C outta the draft and didn’t get credit as a potential 1C until he was there. Not saying Thomas is a future 1C but especially for smaller players it can take longer and there isn’t one path to follow to get there. Point is just one example that not lighting the league in fire at 18-19 doesn’t mean you won’t be a top player.

02 Oct 2019 12:27:42
If u watched Thomas play you would know he carried the line he was on. I will leave it alone but when he breaks out this year I will rub it in your face craigger.

02 Oct 2019 12:49:58
thats my point. Thomas isn't pegged as a future #1C. Point was never pegged as a future #1C because scouts and analysts don't just throw that term out. If you work hard and keep at er you may become a #1C but just because you become a #1C doesn't mean you were pegged that from the beginning.

people around here need to know the differance. Future#1C are reserved for top 10 picks. anything under top 10 need to work hard and earn that title later in their lives. If a top 10 doesn't become a #1C like he was pegged then they start to become a bust.

Thomas was never pegged a furutre #1C. he may become it with a lot of hard work and luck but he isn't pegged that. Point was never pegged a #1C out of the draft but he became a top line guy due to his work ethic.

02 Oct 2019 13:51:54
you know what let Thomas be the future #1C in stlouis.
If you want him to be your future at that position that just means noone better than him will be on the team at that position meaning every NHL club will take advantage of a guy who is best suited for 2nd line C

Personally if i were a Blues fan i'd want him to be the future #2C because I would really hope the #1C is better than Robert Thomas.

Have it your way.

02 Oct 2019 15:12:39
Dude seriously get over your self. The kid at 19 was amazing. At 20 is on the top 10p of the Stanley cup defending team. The same team that beat leafs twice. He has won two one championships won the geetzky award in the oil. Was a huge part in Canadian winning gold. And is is tremendous two center. The kid was pegged as a 1c. Top ten in drafts don't hold that solely the fact that you said that is asinine. I get it you got Mathews good for you. A 1c position consists of 30 players at that title. Some are elite some are great some are above average but they are 1cs the fact that you think a 19 year old or 20 year old is the peak of performance or if you don't perform crazy good then your a. Hat is just crazy. You need to just admit you are wrong.

02 Oct 2019 15:26:47
Colt, you’re overvaluing your player again. Just like Shattenkirk and Lehtera. He’s a good player but imagine if he wasn’t a STL Blue, GTD you wouldn’t be sucking him off like this. It’s crazy.

02 Oct 2019 16:29:41
If I believed Robert Thomas was at his peak performance than i'd be saying he is the future #4C for St. Louis. I've never once said Thomas isn't good. I simply think he is the future #2C for Stlouis. I know that's tough for you to read but take it.

Yes, Thomas won the Gretzky award but so did many before him. McDavid, Marner, Hall and Perry are the best of the winners. More than half those winners ended up role players or AHL players. i'm glad you pulled it up for your argument it shows me you can argue with facts.

We odviously differ on what our take on a true future#1C is and that's fine. personally i'd hope my future #1C is a stud in every level he plays in and dominates the NHL from the get go but hey if you want a marginal star player as your future #1C I say have it. its your right to think anything you want

Unfortunatly due to this being an opinion on the what future#1C means to ourselves there really is no wrong or right answer.

You continue throwing that title out to everyone you deem worthy (st. louis prospects and every prospect going to the leafs in a leaf trade) and ill continue to judge prospects at a much much higher standard.

Go Cardinals!

02 Oct 2019 16:49:06
Id like to also add that championships seem to follow robert Thomas wherever he goes. that's an amazing feat


Robert Thomas for future captain seems more logical than future #1C
to me, anyways.

02 Oct 2019 17:33:59
Well in the same aspect till. You disbarraged my opinion on parayko as well. How did that turn out for you. I see Thomas as a great 70 80 or two way planning center. A great 1c for this team. As for sucking him off. Till you should have watched him play all the announcers and analyst during the playoffs all had grst things to say. I get it you have a personal thing against me. Just admit I was right about parayko and if I'm wrong about Thomas I will say as much also. I remember saying schenn at 1c was a goid thing and being beat up by that as well. It's col everyone had their opinion. We will see if my floats or sinks.

02 Oct 2019 17:44:39
Ive never said anything bad about Parayko. He is a beast and any team or anyone would be foolish not to agree. Pie and Colton are gems in the backend. Parayko would of been a 1st rounder if he played in the WHL for 1 season.

02 Oct 2019 17:57:30
also, comparing one player to another doesn't demean just how good the player you are comparing any.

Parayko and Pietroangelo had rough starts to the season last season but once redwing1 pointed out the coaching change I forgot about it was apparent Yeo was the problem. Once Yeo left Colton and Pie both drove their advanced stats up very high. Overall their season last year didn't look amazing but if you take their stats from January through the playoffs they both looked top 10 D in the NHL for sure.

02 Oct 2019 18:10:03
Look this is my final thought. Thomas was amazing last year and improved greatly as the year went on. He started with limited time and ended up being the driving force on the third line. No all players with high ceilings come into the league tear it up. Kucherov had 18 points in 52 games when he was 20. Different strokes for different folks. I believe (many others do as well), That Thomas is going to shine this year. We shall see.

As far as this trade prop. No one on this board would do it. Thomas.

02 Oct 2019 18:41:09
if you would of lead with this instead of all the future #1C mumbo jumbo you were writing then the topic would of been closed a day ago. but then again, what would of been the fun with that?

02 Oct 2019 22:24:25
The parayko thing was aimed at yupp.

As for the 1c he is going to be one we will see after t gis year and I have no problem admitting when I am wromg.

03 Oct 2019 06:10:10
Didn’t you think Parayko would be a Norris winner? He’s not near that caliber, yet. I’ve always liked him and haven’t ever had a problem with Parayko.
But your shatttenkirk value was so off you had to leave hear and come back as a different name man.
And your homer biased Lehtera views were Efin laughable. Both those proven so so so wrong man.
Parayko is a stud! I love him and his game! Always have. Not a Norris caliber D man but he’s awesome! You were sucking him off so hard before he was on anyone’s radar as even just a good D man!
Dude, You being the most homer guy in the site for a while, Shattu being traded for SO much less than you screaming he would return, Then leaving, coming back as a rivals name months later, Is so efin funny. You should be so embarrassed. Like come on man.

03 Oct 2019 12:34:27
i heard somewhere that redwing1 use to walk around the St. Louis arenaand streets with a sign saying
"Lehtera best passer in the league for MVP"

Phillys GM saw this guy and was very intrigued so he pulled the trigger
Braydon Schenn for Lehtera and #27 in 2017 draft

Lets hope for phillys sake Morgan Frost turns out to be something. The more the years drag on looks like St. Louis got Schenn and a stanley cup for nothing.

Well done redwing1 way to hook and sink Philly into that deal. Your overhyping of a player got Philly Schenn (bravo, bravo)

03 Oct 2019 13:33:30
**meant got st. louis schenn**.

30 Sep 2019 23:04:30
To st.louis
Morgan frost

To philly
Robert thomas

Apparently morgan frost is a future 1C and by all accounts i read around here so is robert Thomas

Frost had superior ohl stats than thomas so clearly he has to be better than Thomas

Trading of future 1C players drafted in same year but due to frost being outstanding in jr compared to thomas and since frost is"bluechip" he's got to be worth more

Thoughts

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30 Sep 2019 23:33:34
Frost is better than Thomas. No doubt about that. He’s just being held back by Philadelphia’s deep center depth. I’m not sure how anyone can consider a 9 goal scorer a future 1C. Maybe in the 1990’s. But not now.

I have a feeling I walked in to a party after the drunk fight broke out? I actually went to the Leafs board to read what was going on. Just confirms what I already suspected. Colt, or RedWing, or whatever his name is, really doesn’t know much about hockey at all. Him and JoeMarcus couldn’t hammer a nail if they had instructions and Holmes on Homes showing them how.

01 Oct 2019 00:28:25
Blues are not trading Robert thomas for Morgan frost. Consider Robert thomas as untouchable as Colton parayko.

01 Oct 2019 10:16:16
I agree with Redwing I believe Thomas is the most valuable peice on the blues roster over O’Rielly, Petro, Senko ETC not Paryanko tho.

01 Oct 2019 11:33:56
He is fast great hands plays a 200 ft game and at 19 cracked a Stanley cup team. He is the future.

01 Oct 2019 13:37:31
Is he the best set up man in the league? Crazy how the best set up guy in the league was no longer in the league after you said that colt.

01 Oct 2019 15:58:59
yupp your sure like to twist words. You and your lehtera bs. let's go back to the RNH for Petro bs you spun back in the day. How did that work for you. Do you still think RNH is worth petro….

01 Oct 2019 18:01:24
Erik johnson was untouchable at one point. how did that work out

Noone is untouchable and usually fans who dub them that they get dealt within a year for a player the fanbase dubs untouchable. its the buisness. you throw out insane titles for mediocre players. if thomas would of been the best player on that 3rd line in the playoffs you might have a better argument but he wasnt. Bozak drove that line and Thomas was just there.

Hes good but not untouchable.

01 Oct 2019 18:36:29
I dubbed parayko petro untouchable. Tarasenko as well. I love your responses they make little to no sense.

01 Oct 2019 20:00:41
I’m not spinning anything. You’re the one who said Lehtera was the best set up guy in the league. Shortly after you saying that he was traded. Then was out of the league. That was pretty funny.
And you just admitted you are Colt. Why the name change? Leave when Shattenkirks return was like half what you were screaming he was worth, then come back months later, under a different name? Lol.

01 Oct 2019 20:17:38
Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. Just because it proves a point doesn't mean it makes no sense.

Erik johnson once dubbed the next chris pronger by the st. louis fan base was called the untouchable. One bad season and he gets dealt fir shatty. Now shatty is dubbed the next big untouchable by st. louis blues fans. His act runs stale and gets shipped to washington for basically nothing.

Even gretzky got dealt. Hull, oates, pronger, mcinnis all untouchables gone . Every player is tradable. In sports you can't dub people untouchable. One more bad year in edmonton and mcdavid becomes tradable.
if you don't understand this then i guess go back under the rock youll never understand this.

01 Oct 2019 21:49:32
Hey craigger blues ain't trading Thomas so het over it yupp prove I said that. Cause I didn't.


Lol all this because I pointed out a known. Lol don't change leaf fans.

02 Oct 2019 10:02:24
No', all this started because you're throwing out future #1 terms that they have lost their meaning. scouts and analyst reserve those terms for game changers not guys who are maybes.

02 Oct 2019 17:36:40
All this cause I won't accept your sheet offer for Thomas.

02 Oct 2019 18:38:19
i put this up because you called both frost and thomas future #1C so i decided why not deal them for one another. you took way to much offence to it.

02 Oct 2019 18:41:52
All this because you called Robert Thomas untouchable.

30 Sep 2019 19:11:20
Leafs trade Kerfoot
Philly trades Frost, Ratcliffe

Saw this posted somewhere else and thought it was really bad for philly. Morgan frost is projected to be a 1c/ 2c in the league. Had outstanding OHL seasons.

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30 Sep 2019 19:20:44
What? Hell no from Philly.

30 Sep 2019 19:35:51
You’re obsessed with leaf boards colt. Is there any trades that are bad for the leafs? Do you scroll through searching for the most lopsided proposals? How much time do you waste looking at other teams? So many questions?

30 Sep 2019 20:10:50
That's what I said.

30 Sep 2019 21:02:37
Leafs17 I wouldn't be so obsessed if it's fan base was so delusional. Every single player that is a leaf player is ridiculously over rated and other teams best prospects are meh. It's just amazing how far off most of you really are.

30 Sep 2019 21:07:24
Also leafs I do comment on many trades the only problem all trades suggested by leaf fans are extremely lopsided. This one was beyond bad and then I am being told frost isn't even a bluchipper. The kid can play.

30 Sep 2019 22:16:56
redwing1.why not tell hole story

That proposal was proposed. You then wrote frost was a future 1C. I then disagreed with frost being a future 1C and that's where the conversation went. I neither agreed nor disagreed to the deal. I didn't even comment on the deal.

You leave out very important steps in the debate. In the emd you resort to going outside the conversation because you are horrible with debating.

Frost at 20 hasn't made philly yet. All guess drafted who are considered future 1C make the nhl by 19. They sometimes start on the wing but they atleast make the NHL in their teens. There are exceptions odviously but to be a prospect who is considered a future 1C you lose that title when you are tredding water in AHL at age 20.

That became the argument. Had nothing to do with the trade. it was a fun discussion.

30 Sep 2019 23:04:14
Lol. says one of the most biased people on here.

30 Sep 2019 23:39:22
Pretty bold statement there DonCherry. You’re trades are just as biased and lopsided as the rest.

01 Oct 2019 03:50:20
What trades have I proposed Fanatic?

01 Oct 2019 10:17:21
Yah I’m really not sure why you’re actively going on leafs boards.

01 Oct 2019 11:35:15
I like going on both. But some of the patting on reach other backs for horrible trade ideas is in real so I feel I need yo let them know.

01 Oct 2019 20:18:32
redwing1.Are you the bad deal police?

01 Oct 2019 20:43:40
redwing1/ Colt/ russiantank likes to bash the delusional leaf fans Craigger. Apparently he spends his time searching for bad trades. He is not capable of seeing his own bias and has changed his username multiple times. He accused me of trash talking Thomas in the past. I didn’t even know who Thomas was until last year. I’ll be the first to admit that I don’t know a lot about the young kids, therefore I don’t pretend that I do. There are guys like redwing and biasjoe that think they know everything about everyone. It must make them feel good about themselves.

01 Oct 2019 21:52:51
Seriously how many times do I have to tell you I got banned. Lol leafs if you don't create super bad lopsided trades I wouldn't have anything to rip. Lol so bhurt are you not.

01 Oct 2019 22:25:59
Leafs17,

Thats why i call redwing1 out when i do. He uses that future #1C term so loosely. He used it on frost so i called him out for it. See i watch OHL hockey every weekend and have the pleasure of seeing these talented kids 2-4 times a year. Its just what i do. I see flaws during their development phase and instruct others what they need to improve on. See hockey isn't just a coach sees coach tells. Scouts also see talk with agents agents tell players they represent what they need to work on.

Evaluating young talent is fun. Seeing them mature into greatness is great to see. Some players you watch you see they just have it. they've had it since they were 14. Others need to work hard to get it. Someone with skill who works their tail off will always be more dangerous than a hard worker with limited skill. However hardwork will always irritate a skilled guy who doesn't work hard.
Example saginaw vs sau last playoffs in ohl. Ryan mcleod less skilked than morgan frost really outworked him and showed everyone frost is one dimensional.

Unless frost works his tail off this year him, much sam steel, jaydon hagenwachs and many talented players who don't work hard will just get buried .

My point is i do pay real attention to CHL players . I may not make the best deals but i try. However, i debate other items all the time. Opinionated ideas don't work in a debate. Facts and stats will always trump an opinion.

02 Oct 2019 02:34:41
Yes you got banned but denied using a different user name for probably a year. That was until your bias shone through and everyone called you out. How quickly you forget that I was trying to defend you when most of the regulars were calling you out. I gave up and realized they were right and you were acting like a turd sack. Yes you did say Lehtera was one of the best set up guys in the league. Everyone has some bias towards their team, some people are extreme. I just don’t understand why you choose to go through leaf proposals and bring them here, lol.

02 Oct 2019 22:34:48
I’ll take that as a no comment on denying everything to a bunch of anonymous strangers?

 


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