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12 Jul 2021 15:41:25
Detroit Trades
Larkin
Bertuzzi
1st Round Pick 2021 (6th Overall)
2nd Round Pick 2021 (52nd Overall)
3rd Round Pick 2021 (94th Overall)

Toronto Trades
Matthews

Yes this is are you kidding me proposal but wouldn't it help both Teams in all aspects ? Detroit brings in one of the best Centres in the NHL to build around, Toronto yes loses Matthews but with the talent they already have adding 2 top 6 players plus a high 1st Round Pick plus another 2nd Rounder and a 3rd Rounder keeps the prospect pool going strong for the future, and with the Cap money of Matthews off the books they can resign Hyman if they choose to.


Thoughts ?

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12 Jul 2021 16:50:56
Detroit is giving up way too much here. Like this seems like an NHL 21 type of trade.

I can understand asking for Larkin and Bertuzzi but Matthews shouldn’t get both plus a high first . Like maybe we add the 2nd you mentioned but that’s about it.

As I know this is purely for a what if kind of thing. I don’t see Detroit giving up their depth and picks in a rebuild for Matthews and I don’t see Matthews wanting to go from Cup Contender to rebuild.

12 Jul 2021 18:21:52
Leafs would never do this. everyone on Detroit looks better than they actually are. Exhibit A is Mantha. While he was good in Washington, he was significantly worse than what I think the Caps were expecting. Conversely Vrana was a lot better in Detroit.
Larkin and Bertuzzi are overrated, at least in respect to the value that Wings fans give them.

12 Jul 2021 23:12:16
I’d do this without hesitation from a leafs POV.

12 Jul 2021 23:30:08
@Webs, I understand your point there. Mantha was a player who has skill but lacked consistent efforts. Who knows maybe more time in Washington allows him to do better.

As for Wings fans overvaluation of Larkin and Bertuzzi, our intention isn’t to do that, it’s simply that they are our best players on a team that doesn’t have the fortune of having a Matthews, McDavid, etc. We don’t have a pure elite Top 50 NHLer.

So we are not saying that either one is worth a mountain but we just expect a larger return because their value to us is higher because we don’t have any internal replacements. So it will cost you more than you would like to get us to pull the trigger which may make it an overpayment.

13 Jul 2021 04:17:31
Good deal for Toronto but not for Detroit. This would make them worse now and delay a rebuild.

Toronto won't trade Matthews anyhow.

12 Jul 2021 14:18:53
Buffalo: Eichel
Anaheim: Gibson, Lindholm, Steel, 2nd round pick

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12 Jul 2021 15:04:01
I don’t think it makes sense for Either team.
Why trade for Eichel if you’re going to have some of the worst goaltending in the league (by giving up Gibson) .
Buffalo doesn’t really get any rebuilding pieces from this. Gibson doesn’t really fit their time line, neither does Lindholm. Steel and a 2nd aren’t really game changers.

13 Jul 2021 01:36:45
Trading Gibson defeats the point of getting eichel.

11 Jul 2021 22:11:18
Nyi- leddy bolduc wilde

Stl- tarasenko 2.5 retained Dunn

Win win for both teams. Replenish blues defensive prospects. Nyi gets a dangerous forward and top 4 dman.

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11 Jul 2021 16:13:35
Sean Monahan for Vladimir Tarasenko



Johnny Gaudreau - Elias Lindholm - Vladimir Tarasenko
Matthew Tkachuk - Mikael Backlund - Andrew Mangiapane


Jaden Schwartz - Ryan O’Rielly - Jordan Kyrou
David Perron - Brayden Schenn - Sean Monahan.

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11 Jul 2021 16:28:57
Value aside, are you sure you want to get involved with Tarasenko and his injury history?

11 Jul 2021 20:36:16
Actually not a bad trade.

11 Jul 2021 22:06:05
Blues need to use tarasenko to get younger refill the prospect cupboard.

11 Jul 2021 22:33:37
Heck no. I just want to see how the value is lol.

12 Jul 2021 12:35:59
Pass on Tarasenko, his shoulder and his big salary. Monny will be fine after hip surgery, Tarasenko hasn't been the same since hurting his shoulder.

13 Jul 2021 01:38:51
To me value is a wash. Tarasenko higher upside, but higher risk. Monahan on the blues seems like a good fit if you throw him on the 2nd line lw.

11 Jul 2021 16:07:55
Wouldn’t do this cause we don’t need Domi as we already have Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Mangiapane for LW but how’s the value?


Sean Monahan for Max Domi.

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11 Jul 2021 16:29:36
I would think Calgary could do better. Not a ton better, but better.

11 Jul 2021 20:36:58
I don’t know why Calgary would do that.

11 Jul 2021 22:33:57
That’s what I was thinking.

12 Jul 2021 12:53:25
Can't see them selling low on Monahan. He still has two years left on his contract. If he gets traded this year it's going to be for a better player than Domi.

13 Jul 2021 01:43:53
I like Domi on the flames, if they believe he can 3rd line C and maybe 2nd line winger. Gives them more room to trade Johnny or Matthew.

Monahan too much to give up.

11 Jul 2021 08:48:17
BUF: Jack Eichel

NYR: Filip Chytil + Kaapo Kakko + 1st Round 2021 +



BUF: Sam Reinhart

CBJ: Elvis Merzlikins + Liam Foudy + 2nd Round 2022




BUF: Rasmus Ristolainen

PIT: John Marino + 1st Round 2021



1. Skinner - Chytil - Olofsson

2. Cozens - Mittelstadt - Kakko

3. Bjork - Asplund - Thompson

4. Caggiula - Ruotsalainen - Girgensons


1. Dahlin - Jokiharju

2. Power - Marino

3. Montour - Samuelsson


1. Elvis Merzlikins

2. Ukko Luukkonen.

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11 Jul 2021 09:49:43
Marino > Ristolainen
Eichel > NYR package
Reinhart > CLB package.

11 Jul 2021 11:52:57
The CLB package is pretty good @NotaCasual.

11 Jul 2021 12:48:36
I’m not saying it’s bad, however I think they try to keep Ullmark and I think a deal is only done if there’s a 1st involved going back to buffalo.

11 Jul 2021 20:38:15
Rienhart is worth a top 10 pick.

12 Jul 2021 14:33:45
@Nylander true, but you could probably flip Elvis to Edmonton for pick 16 so you’re looking at 16, Foudy (who’s a pretty solid prospect from what I know) and a 2nd that will likely be pretty high.

12 Jul 2021 15:03:10
Reinhart package is good IMO. Could make it Tampa’s first even Toronto’s maybe.

12 Jul 2021 19:46:14
Explain to me how the Penguins are trading a 2021 First Round Pick they don't have? Look your stuff up before you post trades do your home work.

10 Jul 2021 17:19:08
Per Elliot Friedman, Flames and Gaudreau have already began extension talks. Let’s go man.

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10 Jul 2021 18:02:53
Eric Francis punching the air rn.

11 Jul 2021 03:47:37
This is very similar to the Tavares situation.

12 Jul 2021 12:43:30
Unless he's willing to take a pay cut just trade him already!

10 Jul 2021 03:36:54
I'd love to take McTavish on the Sens. He's from Ottawa and is one of the top forward prospects in this draft.
I'd expect him to be taken around 7, so assuming he is still there, Ottawa makes this trade with SJ.
Ottawa receives pick 7
San Jose receives Joey Daccord, pick 10, their 2021 2nd round pick back, another 2nd/3rd round pick from Ottawa.
San Jose receives an NHL ready goaltender prospect and 2 solid picks to move down 3 spots.

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10 Jul 2021 15:54:19
Not enough to move down 3 picks inside the top 10 imo. I honestly don’t know what they would want. I just know it’s not enough.

10 Jul 2021 16:05:35
Easily enough IMO. I don’t imagine Daccord has too much value, maybe a 4th ish? A 2nd, 3rd and 4th is plenty to move up 3 spots.

10 Jul 2021 17:19:48
@ebs I would agree if the pick wasn’t in the top 10.

10 Jul 2021 21:38:08
I think it all depends right. If they have their eyes set on a player that would be 7-9 then they probably don’t do it. If they think their guy would still be there when they pick at 10 they probably would.

11 Jul 2021 09:51:24
That is true, if they want a particular player and know he’ll still be available at 10 then I 100% see it as a big brain move lol but the Top 10 is usually decided.

12 Jul 2021 14:36:23
This drafts a bit different because there’s 2 very solid goaltending prospect that could shake up the order. I could see Detroit going with Wallstadt at 6, and then SJ, LA, and Chicago could also go goalie shortly afyer.

13 Jul 2021 14:38:11
I like it but hopefully Clarke is available if they do that. Pick Brandte Clarke instead, McTavish more of a back up plan. Either would be great and both are hometown boys. Clarke is a better fit and more of a sure thing for the main roster as he and Sanderson together would be gold.

 


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