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03 Aug 2022 03:41:29
Calgary bad needs capspace and another centre for the top 6
As they are in win now mode.

To Vancouver, 2nd round pick, 2023, 3rd round pick, 2024, Monahan, Lucic, Pelletier, Kuznetsov, Kylington, so Canucks have a Swedish defense partner for OEL.

To Calgary, JTMiller, Tucker Poolman, Pearson, Nils Hoglander(so Backlund has another Swede to play on the 3rd line with).

Renidrag

1.) 03 Aug 2022 04:56:51
Swap Pelletier out for a 1st Round Pick and it’s a deal!

We’ll build Poolman and Hoglander back up and Trade them for Assets to replace the 2nd & 3rd Draft Picks and Kuznetsov

PS if you’re trying to imitate or mock me, I don’t write my trades like that, but you’re very funny ?.


2.) 03 Aug 2022 07:14:14
Calgary says no thanks.

Giving up too much of the future for very little return. One year of Miller isn't worth Pelletier, Kuznetsov, Kylington, a 2nd and a 3rd.

Calgary can get something for Monahan and Lucic without taking on contracts like Tucker and Poolman too. They might have to retain salary to do it but it can be done.

Monahan at 50% retained would cost his new team $3.18775M and open up the same amount of cap for the Flames.

Lucic at 50% retained would cost his new team $2.625M and save the Flames the same amount.

That's $5.81275 more cap space for the Flames and that's the worst case. With less than 50% retention they'd save more cap. Enough to sign Nazem Kadri at the 7M/ year for 3 years he's rumored to be looking for now.


3.) 03 Aug 2022 17:27:59
JT Miller is the Big Gritty Top-6 Forward you want and comes at only $5.25mil for the year. Gonna have to give up something, especially if they were to take on both Lucic and Monahan with no retention, but I agree Pelletier wouldn't be included.

Treliving would need to extend Miller, move him by the Deadline or have yet another Gaudreau debacle, but if we Won the Cup, it wouldn't be so bad.


4.) 03 Aug 2022 18:52:20
JT Miller would be an ideal fit in Calgary but he's not worth what Vancouver wants for him unless he comes with an extension.


5.) 03 Aug 2022 19:56:07
@MoxNix: What would you offer from the Flames for JT Miller as UFA23? And what would you offer for Conor Garland?

Toffoli might do alright, but I'm looking for a 2nd Playmaker: Tarasenko, Kane, Garland, J. Bratt, Konecny, Stastny, Kessell, Necas & Kerfoot are the names I think might be available. I don't think Evan Rodrigues or Nic Roy will be much better than Ruzicka other than they bring Right Shots.


6.) 04 Aug 2022 00:17:44
Hard to say on Miller but as a UFA it wouldn't cost any assets, just money = cap space. It would depend on how he performs this year.

As a rental either now or at the deadline I'd offer a first round pick and a pretty good player or prospect maybe even add a little something extra if it's now. Vancouver would have to take Lucic's or of Monahan's full cap hit in return though.

2023 first round pick
Oliver Kylington
Lucic or Monahan

I wouldn't be interested in Connor Garland. Garland is a good hard working player who competes but Calgary needs a big physical top 6 power forward not another good smaller player.


7.) 04 Aug 2022 03:13:16
Right on. You got to give me some examples of Big Physical Top-6 Forwards that are available other than Josh Andersson

Only guys I can think of might be Anthony Mantha or Mark Stone. I’ll keep looking otherwise we have develop one out of a Bottom-6 Player like Nathan Bastian, Mark Kastelic, Brett Howden or Austin Watson.


 

 

02 Aug 2022 00:33:34
Canucks trade
Tanner Pearson 3.25
Jason Dickinson 2.65
Nils Hoglander .89
OEL 7.26
Michael DiPietro minors

Calgary trades
Chris Tanev 4.5
Nikita Zadorov 3.75
Dillon Dube 2.3
Andrew Mangiapane RFA

Flames are going for it and shore up their forward group and bring in Pearson who is familiar with Toffoli and Sutter.
They shore up the Leftside defense with OEL.
Canucks are trying to get a bit younger and would like Tanev as a partner for Hughes and are hoping to just get into a playoff spot.

Renidrag

1.) 02 Aug 2022 01:31:03
Is this some kind of joke!? Did you forget to add JT Miller or Conor Garland? Mangiapane scored more Goals alone than all the Players you've proposed here combined for heavens sake.

-Only way CGY takes Pearson is if Lucic was going the other way
-CGY has ZERO interest in Dickinson, you'll have to pay to dump him
-CGY doesn't want another Small Forward, we have Pelletier & Phillips
-OEL is good, but where's the compensation for taking on his contract
-DiPietro might still bring a late pick, but he was terrible in all 3GP

My proposal below is substantially more realistic, this proposal is just insulting.


2.) 02 Aug 2022 01:57:15
So, taking on Lucic, who is a cap dump, and a bunch of other trash, you get Top 10 scorer JT Miller, Garland, Pearson and Schenn.
Talk about insulting.
You realize DiPietro has those 3GP spread out over 4 years and was an emergency call-up in his 1st game, as a 19 year old.
You are starting to sound worse than that Leafs poster who constantly posts lopsided Leafs deals.


3.) 02 Aug 2022 02:57:20
Pearson isn’t much better than Lucic, who brings many intangible assets other than just Scoring, and its in VAN’s best interest to get out of the 2nd year of Pearson’s contract, so they pretty much offset one another

Otherwise my offer was equivalent to Three 1st + a 2nd + a 6th Round Picks; that’s more than Plenty for a Very Good Player + an Aging/ Recent AHL Rental + an Undersized Winger and a Goalie Prospect who’s value has plummeted

CGY isn’t parting with Mangiapane, Dube or Tanev unless a ridiculous deal presents itself. Zadorov can be discussed, but we’re not interested in OEL’s albatross of a contract and the only way we consider Pearson is if Lucic goes the other way. We’re only interested in JT Miller, Garland and Schenn unless Hughes is available or Lucic + Zadorov for Pearson + Myers 25% retained is on the table.


4.) 02 Aug 2022 03:00:15
Can’t believe you consider Toffoli, Kylington, a 1st Round Pick and Top Prospect Adam Ruzicka trash

Now That’s Truly Unbelievable!


5.) 02 Aug 2022 04:29:47
Adam Ruzica sucks, Toffoli will retire by the time Canucks are competitive and Klyington is worth a 20ish pick.

Toffoli is worth a 2nd to a competitive team who has the space which there is none.


6.) 02 Aug 2022 04:54:28
So Toffoli will retire at 32 and was worth a 1st Round Pick + a 2 Round Prospect 5.5 months ago but now he’s only worth a 2nd Round Pick!? Yeah Right

Obviously you don’t know anything about Ruzicka >>> Dickinson, Lazar and any other Centres VAN has not named Miller, Horvat or Petterson

Yes, Kylington is worth at least a mid-1st Round Pick.


7.) 02 Aug 2022 14:12:32
Ruzicka isn’t comparable to Lazar or Dickenson both are pure shut down 4th line centres who are good at their role. Dickenson is a cap dump.

Look around the league how many competitive teams can take Toffolis cap hit? Yes his value has gotten lower because there is literally no market for him. The Canucks are probably 3-5 years out from being a cup contender.


8.) 02 Aug 2022 17:07:31
You're Right! Ruzicka is projecting to be a 2nd or 3rd Line Centre. He played 95% of his TOI on the 4th line putting up 0.36PPG and a +/ - = +8 with only 10:13ATOI, which is excellent, not sucky. I like Lazar, He's Good Pick Up for VAN, but Dickinson is no bueno

Any competitive team would love to have Toffoli, they'd simply move a player in the deal or to another Team to make the Cap Space. CGY's Happy to keep Toffoli, but if an upgrade = 1.00PPG+ Player or Younger Player was available (especially French or Swedish), we should consider moving Toffoli for them: Tarasenko, Miller, Garland, Bratt, Reinhart or Monster Mantha for example

MIN's looking to replace Fiala & CGY needs a 2C, so Ryan Hartman or Joel Eriksson Ek? If we signed Right Shot's Kessel or Rodrigues or Traded for Zetterlund, Necas or Nic Roy, we could move Toffoli for a D-Man, maybe even Barrie if EDM added a Nice Sweetener.


 

 

06 Jul 2022 20:08:06
JT Miller and Jack Rathbone from the Canucks, for Thomas Harley, Wyatt Johnston and Dallas 1st(2022)

Renidrag

1.) 06 Jul 2022 21:36:50
Take Out Wyatt Johnston unless JT Miller comes with a sweet contract extension already in place.


 

 

03 Jul 2022 01:18:30
JT Miller, Tucker Poolman and Jason Dickonson(10% retained) for Mitch Marner(25% retained), Kerfoot(11.5% retained) and a 3rd round pick in the future.

Renidrag

1.) 03 Jul 2022 02:49:59
No from Leafs


2.) 03 Jul 2022 03:12:21
How about the leafs throw in Mathews at 50% retained aswell.


3.) 03 Jul 2022 19:37:22
At first I thought this was a Pinball proposal.


4.) 04 Jul 2022 05:38:38
@Islanjet,
That was the intent.


5.) 04 Jul 2022 14:52:36
Pinball would have had Mrazek in there instead of Marner.


6.) 04 Jul 2022 14:53:13
And retention on the Vancouver players instead of Toronto's!


 

 

28 Jun 2022 19:17:08
Canucks trade Brock Boeser to Ottawa after sign a 6x6 deal for Alex Formenton and Ottawa's 2nd this year

Renidrag

1.) 28 Jun 2022 20:52:05
I agree that Boeser likely won't make anywhere close to his $7.5mil qualifying offer on a long-term deal right now, but 6 years takes him to 31 and doesn't give him a chance for a big pay day if he turns things around next season, so he's probably going to gamble by taking his 1 Year QO OR he may sign at a discount, but only for 2-3 years

VAN already has a ton of LW's, so I don't see them being interested in another. Ott's 1st RD Pick + Austin Watson OR maybe Tyler Boucher + 2nd RD Pick seem more likely to acquire Boeser

Would be good if OTT acquired Boeser though, it might make Connor Brown more expendable and easier for CGY to acquire.


2.) 28 Jun 2022 22:43:24
I’d rather just keep Formenton and pay Norris and Stu tbh.


3.) 28 Jun 2022 22:45:31
@Trevor if it was Boucher + a 2nd or JBD + 2nd I’d do it.
Just rather keep Formenton for his PK and good 3/ 4 line player.


4.) 28 Jun 2022 22:53:30
That's definitely understandable. I was thinking about JBD, but they just signed Filip Johansson and already have Jett Woo as RD Prospects.


5.) 29 Jun 2022 00:51:54
@TrevorA
Not sure what you consider a ton of LW is, but quality should count, and the Canucks are thin everywhere, when it comes to that.
In regards to RD, Jett Woo was playing forward late in season, in the minors and the other guy you mentioned is a player that the Wild didn't want to sign, so yes, the Canucks could use RHD as well.


6.) 29 Jun 2022 01:30:50
Pearson, Pettersson, Podkolzon, Dickinson, Hoglander, Kuzmenko, Highmore and Ferland if he ever return from injury seems like a lot of LW depth to me.

I think every Team could use another good RD, they’re more rare and much harder to come by than LD’s, but I’ll admit I don’t know much about Woo or the Canucks and their needs overall, so I would defer to you on this, but it seems like they have plenty of good talent, but either need good coaching to keep them going or there’s something off between them in regards to their Team chemistry.

Not sure, but I attribute Boeser’s down year to his Father’s sickness, yet MoxNix isn’t very high on him overall, I just know he’s young and can score, he’s just not worth much more than $6-6.5mil/ yr atm.


7.) 29 Jun 2022 01:42:19
Didn’t think JBD was all that hot of a prospect anymore either, otherwise I would have probably included him in my Trade proposal for Tkachuk, being that JBD’s from Beautiful Canmore, just 1 hour west of Cow-Town. Yeehaw! ?.


8.) 29 Jun 2022 04:59:02
The biggest problem with Boeser is his QO is way too high.

It's unlikely anyone is going to be willing to pay him that much. Vancouver will be forced to either qualify him or let him become a UFA able to choose where he goes and get nothing for him.


9.) 29 Jun 2022 16:10:39
Sure, but Boeser is a 0.37GPG = 30+ Goal Scorer/ 82GP. Take out this year, as he was obviously playing distracted and with a heavy heart and he averages 0.83PPG. At 25.5, he's still got 6-7, maybe 8 productive years of 0.80-1.00PPG+ ahead of him.

VAN will absolutely offer him his QO if necessary, as they can always trade him at the deadline for 50% retained to a contender for a Top Pick, Top Prospect and Roster Player, which is exactly what I see happening if they can't come to terms on a long-term contract and/ or don't have him in their long-term plans. He's an excellent offensive player.


10.) 29 Jun 2022 17:05:45
Boeser isn't bad but he's not as good as Vancouver thought he was when they gave him his last contract. He can score goals but that's about it. He isn't an elite scorer, doesn't drive play and doesn't defend or forecheck very well either. Nor does he provide much physicality in spite of having the size for it.

Boeser's QO is 7.5 mil at least 1.5 mil more than he's worth. Nobody is going to trade very much for him knowing that unless as you suggested it's as a deadline rental with retention. With retention he'll be worth more to a contender at the deadline than he's worth now.


11.) 29 Jun 2022 17:33:17
Sounds like CGY would be better to keep Snipers Toffoli & Mang or pursue Fiala than consider Boeser. We'll see what happens, I hope Boeser turns things around next year, but I agree and have consistently admitted, he's not worth $7.5mil and neither is Fiala.


 

 

 

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24 Mar 2022 12:20:58
I am hoping to see a team like Detroit and Ottawa offersheet some cap-strapped teams.
Just using Vegas as an example, both Nicholas Hague and Nicholas Roy are RFA and Vegas has no cash available.
Sure they might get someone to take on one of their contracts, but is that enough.
Signing Roy at under 1.35 has no compensation and sign Hague for the 1 year for 2million costs a 3rd tound pick.
It would look real good on Vegas.

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02 Mar 2021 06:08:08
Calgary trades somebody for something.

Renidrag

1.) 02 Mar 2021 13:31:48
How about anybody for anything? With various picks from either side to even out value.


2.) 05 Mar 2021 04:56:08
I like it, seems like a good trade for both teams.


 

 

16 Jul 2020 11:58:42
I know Leafs fans won't agree withis, but I expect that if Toronto makes a trade of anyone of the top 4 paid forwards, they will be disappointed with the return.
In order for that team to get better, they need to free up apace, which is essentially a ap dump, so I don't expect to see the Leafs getting a major haul when/ if the do trade one of those players, I expect they will get a fair trade, which h would get them a quality defender and some other pie as.

Renidrag

1.) 16 Jul 2020 14:05:34
I think they could get good value for Nylander. Tavares just won’t be moved because that’s would just be the absolute lowest thing the organization could do. Marner and Mathews are to expensive to be traded for imo.


2.) 16 Jul 2020 14:55:09
If anyone would go, I agree it'd be Nylander. I also agree with the return being underwhelming, tho.


3.) 17 Jul 2020 02:40:16
The return could be underwhelming as mentioned but it depends on what Leafs want in return.

Nylander for a Dman of similar caliber 1 for 1 hockey trade isn’t out of the question right?

Although wingers for Defenseman is a different story than a Center.


4.) 17 Jul 2020 03:21:39
Nylander is on a great contract. I think it’s much more likely that you see a Kapanen+Dermott or Liljegren type trade. By themselves those players hold decent value, but together they hold very good value and could get you a very solid defenceman.


5.) 17 Jul 2020 14:10:06
In fairness to the Leafs other then McD no big contract player who makes over $10 mil per their team won't receive what they are worth in this C-19 cap uncertain NHL.


 

 

28 Jun 2017 15:38:44
Have a feeling Tavares is going to be moved. With Barzal coming and a couple nice picks from Harmonic deal,looks more like a teardown is going to happen in NYI than a strong support group for Tavares.
Watch for Montreal or Columbus to be players here.
Montreal could offer up Galchenyuk along with 1st round picks in 18& 19.
Columbus could offer up someone like Jenner and a couple 1sts.
Just a hunch.

Renidrag

1.) 28 Jun 2017 16:12:40
He will stay where he is. As much as i would like him with the Habs, he isn't going anywhere.


2.) 28 Jun 2017 16:20:17
If he does become available, In sure Habs as well as many other teams would be figuring out how to get him. Unfortunately for us Habs fans, many other teams can mak a way better offer than Bergevin could. Not to many future assets or current ones on Habs that would interest Snow.


3.) 28 Jun 2017 17:05:33
I guess they traded for eberle for his experience in rebuilds then lmao.


4.) 28 Jun 2017 17:42:35
Agree Dr Drai.


5.) 28 Jun 2017 22:43:01
Isles just traded for Eberle to give Tavares a quality winger. Tavares isn't going anywhere.


 

 

 

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03 Aug 2022 02:02:09
The new Kerfoot, Holl package, Luci and Kylington.
2 players not wanted by other teams.

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02 Aug 2022 01:57:15
So, taking on Lucic, who is a cap dump, and a bunch of other trash, you get Top 10 scorer JT Miller, Garland, Pearson and Schenn.
Talk about insulting.
You realize DiPietro has those 3GP spread out over 4 years and was an emergency call-up in his 1st game, as a 19 year old.
You are starting to sound worse than that Leafs poster who constantly posts lopsided Leafs deals.

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01 Aug 2022 13:51:09
Canucks would be giving up a lot of good forwards to acquire the best player in this proposal, Milan Lucic.

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16 Jul 2022 04:19:10
Ottawa is much better off without Schmidt.

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15 Jul 2022 17:58:17
After trading Romanov, I just don't see Mtl trading another young defenseman, that has top pairing potential.

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