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26 Apr 2019 05:28:19
Leafs - nylander, Liljegren, Woll
Hawks- '19 1st ( Byram) and Saad

Leafs gain a little cap space while adding some grit and a left winger in Saad. They also get a highly touted d prospect who had the potential to be a top 1/2 dman. Chicago gets a scoring forward, a good/very good d prospect who may be able to crack the lineup next season And with Chicago drafting boquist last year and Jokiharju the year before their blue line is getting younger. Chicago also gets a good goalie prospect who put up good numbers in the NCAA. He'd be by far Chicago's best goalie prospect. I'm aware that Dubas said "he wouldn't trade nylander" but What ya think?

mertle

1.) 26 Apr 2019 15:40:59
Hawks will take Kasperi Kapanen, Calle Rosen, Zach Hyman, and Rasmus Sandin please!


2.) 26 Apr 2019 17:30:55
Hawks give up 3rd overall for liljegren and will? Cause saad and nylander is pretty much a wash. horrible for Chicago, add money and give up a huge draft pick. Saad is only a few years older and they are both coming off bad seasons.


3.) 26 Apr 2019 18:01:49
so bad for chicago lol brutal.


4.) 26 Apr 2019 18:02:05
hawks will need that ELC!


5.) 26 Apr 2019 21:04:48
Well Nylander has more value then Saad but no from Chicago.


6.) 29 Apr 2019 01:46:58
Chicago do like to pay too much salary for players is so very true. They would like an overpriced Nylander. Yes. He would be good for Chicago. Is the 3rd going to be better than Nylander though? Maybe. Or maybe not. Is a big risk for Toronto too. Nylander is proven.


 

 

23 Jan 2019 22:06:12
Leafs- Gardiner
Blue jackets- Murray and Peeke

If this is the year jackets are all in with the likeliness that bob and Panarin are going to be gone next season they add even more scoring to their blue line and may be able to get him resigned next year. Leafs get a younger more defensively responsible d man in murray, also cheaper.

I like Murray's game I think it's more of what the leafs need, Gardiner may be more offensively skilled but leafs need better actual defence. Because of the skill difference I added in peeke, another 2 way d prospect for the leafs, can't have too many decent defence prospects... just ask Nashville.

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21 Jan 2019 00:06:13
Leafs- nylander
Nash- fabbro and '19 1st

Saying that fabbro will join the preds after ncaa season is over, if he's good enough to join the preds he's definatley good enough to join the leafs. So leafs get a young controllable two way right handed dman they want. They save cap space for next year and nylander goes to western conference. Preds gain more scoring and I believe they can afford his contract as well. Win win for both teams

mertle

1.) 21 Jan 2019 00:59:22
Honestly man I doubt Nashville wants Nylander contract they all have such good contracts on that team then and he’s obvs not living up to what he should be playing. I think Nashville declines imo.


2.) 21 Jan 2019 03:07:40
Fabbro is a very highly rated prospect player. Very impressive, his numbers have gotten better every year since being drafted, even as the compete level has increased. Between Fabbro and Liljegren, at least one of those guys should work out as Rielly’s partner, and hopefully the other replaces Zaitsev.


3.) 21 Jan 2019 11:55:07
If I'm Preds I keep Fabbro.


4.) 21 Jan 2019 14:10:59
Why Nashville give up fabbro and a 1st for 7 million guy on pace for like 12 points and -30? Seems like horrible deal for Nashville. Or is there a superstar on Nashville that can make him better than he is?


5.) 21 Jan 2019 14:12:11
Maybe fabbro alone but that's a stretch.


6.) 21 Jan 2019 16:59:10
Why would any team want over paid Nylander. In the game against the Coyotes he was on the bench laughing and joking. All this while his team is losing and he is playing horribly. That's not the type of player any good team would want.


7.) 21 Jan 2019 20:35:11
I saw that video highlight of Nylander this morning again too. I didn’t have a good impression of him either. I actually boo’d the tv. It’s impossible to blame Nylander for all the Leafs misfortunes. But it seems entirely too coincidental that they start losing shortly after he rejoined them. He’s unbalanced the entire team as they try to fit him back in the roster. It’s not working out the way they had hoped. Nylander was a distraction all year, and now he is even worse than a distraction. He’s physically contributing to this skid in Leafs performance. I’m starting to wonder if maybe Dubas is regretting not trading Nylander now? At minimal, I hope Dubas has learned a valuable lesson about making public statements and promises that are dependent on other people in order to fulfill. Now Dubas still has to contend with Matthews and Marner, and is under a very public spoken obligation not to trade Nylander. It’s commitments like that, made to the public, that Dubas absolutely has to keep. He can’t break those promises. The backlash would be brutal.


 

 

11 Jan 2019 17:53:19
Tor- nylander
Col- Timmins 19 1st

Leafs get a very good defence prospect, who should make the team next year, sure they could trade nylander for someone to help now but in my opinion I'd rather trade for a younger possibly higher ceiling d man than a Brett Pesce or something similar, even if it doesn't help them now. Toronto also adds cap space to help with the possibility that marner wants more than originally expected.
Colorado gets secondary scoring in nylander to take pressure off the big line as well as gives nylander a change in scenery to maybe help him find his game back.

mertle

1.) 12 Jan 2019 01:24:09
Leafs don't need a d prospect at least not for willie . they need a d to try and win the cup in the next three years.


2.) 12 Jan 2019 02:35:43
Timmins has yet to play a game this year as he recovers from a very serious concussion. While Timmins used to be ranked just as highly as Makar, and even higher depending on the analyst, Makar is the better choice by far now.


3.) 12 Jan 2019 05:40:07
My first thought was Makar, I changed it to Timmins based on style of play, but I personally think Makar has a higher ceiling than Timmins. I just don’t think they should trade nylander for a d man like Pesce. Nothing personal towards Pesce cause I do think he’s good but if you could get someone like Makar that sure hasn’t played a nhl game but more than likely will be a much better player than Pesce wouldn’t you rather get the better player. If leafs were to trade nylander for pesce I think they’d be settling on lesser value just to add someone they think is a slight upgrade now rather than get a guy that’ll be a huge upgrade next year and the year after. rant over.


4.) 12 Jan 2019 21:25:29
The thought of trading Nylander for a prospect player, no matter how highly rated, automatically carries risk, as the prospect is so unproven. In Makar’s case, he’s playing NCAA, which is significantly less competitive than AHL or KHL. When looking how well the class surrounding him in the last couple draft years has done, you have to believe that Makar is going to be every bit as good as analysts predict.

Certainly his numbers continue to improve every year, even as the compete level as increased at the same time. He is the model of “today’s” NHL defenseman. I expect good things from this young man. The increase in quality of players coming into the NHL the last few years is incredibly impressive. Nylander for Makar is a trade that works for both teams. Before Timmins got his bell ring, I would have agreed with you on Timmins as good choice as well.


 

 

10 Dec 2018 00:48:12
Leafs- nylander, zaitsev and '19
2nd round pick
St. Louis- petreingelo and Carl Gunnarson

Leafs get a top rh dman they need. Petro has 2 years left on his deal and would be a great fit for the leafs as a good two way d man who is in his prime, brings leadership and is affordable for this year and next. They also take on gunnersons contract to evennout the salary but will be off the books after the season. St. Louis gets young top winger who can put the puck in the net and a dman to fill the void as their 2nd pair dman, if St. Louis is going to start a retool I think this could be a good return of young assets for petro as well as they get to keep Parayko who is young enough to fit their rebuild. I realize that Dubas told nylander he wouldn't be traded but with I don't see how with nylander a contract they can afford marner and Matthews, this gets them some extra cap space for next year

Who adds or is it close?

mertle

1.) 10 Dec 2018 01:29:25
Toronto would still need to add to compensate the Blues for taking Zaitsev's contract. Nylander + would be closer and the Leafs hang on to Zaitsev instead of adding extra to get rid of him.


2.) 10 Dec 2018 02:01:45
i'd do it, seems about even. maybe change the 2nd to a 1st.


3.) 10 Dec 2018 03:02:48
Nylander liljgren zaitsev 1st

Petro.


4.) 10 Dec 2018 09:41:26
Toronto adds and no.


5.) 10 Dec 2018 15:08:14
No chance leafs add Liljgren unless Kyrou or Thomas come back.


 

 

 

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25 Feb 2019 22:03:34
Curious as to what others think about what Vegas is doing? I understand that they're trying for another deep playoff push but to this point they've basically traded all of their good prospects. I think this latest trade for stone giving up brannstrom, what are they planning on building on? Their a 2nd year franchise and have now traded away, 2 of their 3 first round picks... doesn't seem smart asset management to me.

mertle

1.) 25 Feb 2019 23:55:50
I don't like it either. They have a real heavy team there now which would have been ideal for the playoffs 7 or 8 years ago but I don't think they are as fast a team as they were last year. A speedy team might them look silly.


2.) 25 Feb 2019 23:55:50
Ya, I'm not sure what they are planning on for the future, I guess they are living in the moment . however, locking up Stone for next years, not a bad thing for your future.


3.) 26 Feb 2019 05:01:16
Both the trades giving up those prospects brought back really good NHLers with extensions. Nothing about prospects is guaranteed, and even though those guys have a good chance of turning out they for sure things for the foreseeable future in return. It’s the kind of deals you trade those prospects for, just trying to compete now instead of maybe in 5 years, and they seem to be competitive.


4.) 26 Feb 2019 06:15:22
Vegas is going to be a very tough team for years to come.


5.) 27 Feb 2019 12:29:01
They have a solid and already legit top-6, Glass is still a top prospect along with some other prospects, and they did it all while being playoff contenders during both years of existence made of a team of toss-aways. Plus cap space to play with.

They’re solid on all fronts and will be until Fleury retires or faulters at which point they’d need to snag another goalie but that’s about it.

How can anyone speak detrimental of how they’ve been managed without being laughed out of the room?! 😂.


6.) 27 Feb 2019 14:55:28
It's still left to be seen chirp if what they have done will be a good thing or a bad thing for them. i guess I could see them having a 3 or 4 year window if they get the goaltending. But I honestly don't think they will be a contender and when those big contracts to players like pacioretty and stone who are already not the fastest players in a league focusing on speed start to slow down and there is nothing coming in to the fold on entry level deals to pick up the slack then they will have a problem. i don't see any sure fire nhlers in the pipeline other then glass.


 

 

21 Feb 2019 00:24:31
With minny trading away coyle I wonder if
Wild are giving up on the year and unloading some assets. If that's the case what would it take for the leafs or oilers to land dumba? If it was a hockey trade I'd say nylander from the leafs, most will say a overpayment from leafs but to get what you need you may have to overpay and it may be a slight overpayment but considering both of their ages and contracts I'd donor for the leafs.

Oilers probably have to give Hopkins and maybe a small add like benson or bear or something. I know most poker fans would say the bear is going to be a good player and whatever but if you could have dumba, a proven nhler with reasonable term left not to mention shows mcdavid and others (fans) that losing is no longer acceptable

mertle

1.) 21 Feb 2019 03:00:51
I don't think Minny moves on from a guy like Dumba.


2.) 21 Feb 2019 03:37:59
I think most would say not enough from the leafs mertle.


3.) 21 Feb 2019 21:41:55
I agree Sosa, dumba isn’t a guy they should move, but with them trading Nino and now coyle one has to think there might be a rebuild coming and s guy like dumba would bring in a very good return. I wasn’t necessarily propositing that minnybtrade dumba just if anyone else thought maybe they were heading in that direction of a total tear down and rebuild.


 

 

29 Jan 2019 00:36:14
Leafs aquire Muzzin from kings for grunderson, rights to durzi and '19 1st. What do you think leafs fans, I think it's a good trade for both teams more so the leafs. Apart for him not being right handed I think he fits the mould for what leafs need for a shut down/defensive d man, who also has offernsice ability and affordable, Replaces Gardiner for next year. Good trade.

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06 Jan 2019 18:25:07
From what I've heard Dougie Hamilton would rather go to museums and site see rather than join teamates at clubs and such. Based on his past being labelled a party animal and being traded for it I don't blame him for wanting to change his ways. But even still now he's considered "not a team player" which I don't understand. Anyways in saying all that if it is indeed true I'm curious to know if Edmonton should consider trailing RNH for Hamilton straight up... what are your thoughts Oiler fans

mertle

1.) 06 Jan 2019 18:48:55
I thought that he was always into that kind of stuff and it didn’t go over well in Calgary. I never heard of him being a party animal.


2.) 06 Jan 2019 19:52:38
I think we was a party guy in boston.


3.) 06 Jan 2019 21:00:32
Nuge always puts up decent numbers if it weren’t for injuries but this season is a bit of a breakout season for him I think. He’s too valuable to the Oilers to make that trade. Especially since Hamilton is having a bad season. If it was possible to get Hamilton for less than I’d be all for it. Chiarelli is more interested in overpaying for number 6-7 D though.


4.) 06 Jan 2019 23:45:42
But at what point do the oilers management decide that this “core” isn’t working? Something needs to be done and trading mcdavid or draisatl wouldn’t be smart. nuge would bring back a good return specifically to a team like hurricanes that lack scoring and have a surplus of defence. Oilers were looking for a puck moving right hand shot dman, Hamilton makes less than nuge and fills a more important slot than 3rd line center.

If I was the oilers I’d try to trade nuge and a 2nd or 3rd for Hamilton and gautier. Gautier could be a good scoring winger beside mcdavid. Next year Yamamoto should be around and that gives them 2 scoring wingers. I don’t know. I’m not even a oilers fan but it pisses me off that after all this time and high draft picks they are still trash, i don’t know how management puts up with icing damn near the same rubbish each year and expecting different results year after year. They say when something’s working you don’t fix it but this teams been broke for the last decade and nothing seems to be done. waste of mcdavid.


5.) 06 Jan 2019 23:59:45
You sure you’re not thinking of Seguin being the party guy in Boston? Never heard that about Hamilton.


6.) 07 Jan 2019 00:49:51
I don’t think they should trade Hopkins either. Not that their defense is any good but they are 25th in the league in goals for. I don’t know how they fix this mess but bringing in guys like Rieder, Rattie, etc. and thinking they’re going to be top 6 players is a joke. I guess they hope Bouchard becomes a stud and Lucic retires. I would send Lucic to the press box and let someone else try to earn a job.


7.) 07 Jan 2019 01:56:10
It’s not from a lack of making moves Mertle. Nuge has been with the team the longest and he’s like 24. Nuge isn’t a 3rd line center though. The Oilers have no depth scoring so they need him. Chia just needs to get an actual decent D instead of wasting assets on #7 D. Bouchard, Jones and Bear coming up should help the Oil D. Think Faulk would come at a cheaper price? Use skinner as a model?


8.) 07 Jan 2019 04:35:49
Hamilton for Nuge is a fair trade I could even see Carolina throwing in a sweetener.

Hamilton And Julian Gauthier for Nuge?

Gauthier was a 1st round pick in 2016 a Scoring winger which is one of Edmonton’s biggest needs.

Edmonton should not be trading 1sts tho.


9.) 07 Jan 2019 21:42:07
I just think that at this point they need to make a big splash, not another minor league swap, not trading for bottom pairing players. Even something drastic like trading Hopkins and this years first, unprotected for pietrengelo/ Parayko and kyrou or something similar to kyrou. They haven’t done anything the last 7 years with nuge so why not try something new. Trading away this years forst tells fan that they’re at least trying to be better. If St. Louis is looking to rebuild then a top 10 pick and a top 6 youngish center is a good start. Paryko/ petro instantly improves their defence and they also get a scoring winger. Again they need to do something that fills needs and tells the fans that losing isn’t acceptable anymore.


 

 

09 Jun 2018 01:12:12
Depth move for leafs to bring in some additional depth and playoff moral. May help the young guys try a little harder.

Leafs- 4th round pick conditional 7th and maybe a cap dump
Vegas- chick with her tits on the glass.

Vegas gets pick for the future to help them build on conditional 7th if she gets implants. Leafs get chick who's willing to do what it takes to get the crowd and guys going, may give young guys like nylander more reason to go to the corners and battle... what do ya think....is it enough or too much from the leafs?

mertle

1.) 09 Jun 2018 12:14:45
I'd spend a lot of time in the corners maybe a little too much. Plus she wouldn't need implants those puppies looked just fine the way they are.


 

 

 

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18 Jun 2019 01:45:21
Jets just traded Trouba to the rangers for pionk and this years 20th. I’m sick of jets fans thinking he’s going to get what you think he is. and there’s your proof.

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12 Jun 2019 00:43:15
Of course the jets fans would like to get a 21 year old d man who IMO could turn out as good if not better than Trouba AND the 14th overall pick in a deep draft year for 1 year of Trouba cause you know he won’t resign after the year is up. not a chance from Arizona. Chychrun alone has close to the same value as Trouba based on age, current skill/ potential to be better and the fact that Chychrun is not a douche.

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24 May 2019 04:13:31
I agree that jets shouldn’t trade within the division, but it doesn’t say in the proposal that Trouba is signed and traded or agrees to extend prior to trade, so if it’s for Trouba for one year it’s too much from Minnesota. Brodin is a solid top 4 dman, and will come cheaper than trouba as will Myers so their top 4 stays solid with Stanley still developing. Ek at this point maybe is a good 3c but he’s still young and is progressing into a 2c and with another years experience could be a 2c by next season. Not to mention Minnesota already has dumba as their #1 rhd who is arguably better than Trouba (to anyone who’s not a jets fan on this site) . Doesn’t seem worth it to me for minny.

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23 May 2019 01:58:32
So you wouldn’t move a pending ufa for a stable top 4 left handed dman (that jets need) and a young 2nd line center (what the jets need/ want)? Ok.

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07 May 2019 23:23:22
I think Florida gives up too much, if they’re trading for a guy like Kessel and Malkin it’s be to add to their offence not trade for them and give up young top 6 forwards and high draft picks. I think they’d be trying to get more secondary scoring and if they trade away huberdeau and Trochek they’re not any further ahead then they are now. Yes Kessel and Malkin are better now but for how much longer will that be the case. They should hold off see if they can sign Panarin and goalie Bob and keep their forward core in tact. They should trying to add without taking away top 6 roster players.

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