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16 Oct 2019 21:16:03
Leafs trade Nylander, Dermott
NYI trade Eberle, Pulock, Wahlstrom

I figure the difference between Nylander and Eberle is significantly bigger than the difference between Pulock and Dermott. That’s why NY adds Wahlstrom.

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1.) 16 Oct 2019 21:29:08
I'd say you're wrong. Eberle and Nylander are very close other than age, but Eberle has a far better contract, so that evens out a bit.

Pulock is much better than Dermott.

The Islanders would keep Wahlstrom and Toronto would need to add here.


2.) 16 Oct 2019 21:39:13
You can say whatever you want joe. But Nylander has already surpassed Everle’s best years and is much younger. Pulock is not that much better than Dermott actually. In fact, Pulock isn’t better at all. Say what you want joe. It doesn’t matter. No one listens to you anymore anyway. You’ve just proven yourself too biased to take serious anymore.


3.) 16 Oct 2019 21:49:50
Talk about biased. Pulock is a 1D, Dermot is a 4D as best. Eberle is .71 points per game in his career while Nylander is only .67 and severely overpaid. Yet somehow to you, Nylander produces more.

No wonder we all consider your posts a joke.


4.) 16 Oct 2019 21:53:57
Fanatic? Eberle has had a 76 point season. Nylander hasn’t had a better season than that. So when you say Nylander has already surpassed Eberles best years is completely wrong 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️.


5.) 16 Oct 2019 22:26:02
I’d say Nylander beats out Eberle by a small margin, but Pulock destroys Dermott, no way in heck NYI adds to this trade let alone Wahlstrom.


6.) 16 Oct 2019 22:33:26
Whatever. I’m still not as biased as joe. He just says whatever he thinks is true and states it as fact. Fact is, Everle’s stats have been going down and Nylander’s stats are going up. Everle is past his prime and Nylander is about to enter his. Pulock is an overage this that squeezed in on a soft NY team. He almost didn’t even make it.


7.) 16 Oct 2019 23:26:19
The Islanders say no. Value is not there. And If I’m NYI I wouldn’t want to add Nylanders contract at this time especially with Wahlstrom going the other way.


8.) 16 Oct 2019 23:30:33
Yes eberle had a 76 point season like what 8 years ago. Then lockout year he did well followed up by a couple 65ish point seasons. Then a very quick decline in production. He is almost 30 now. Yes his contract is of better cap hit but will be 34 when its done. Since he is declining pretty rapidly the last 2 years of thst cap hit is going to suck.

Yes Pulock is seen by some as a 1D but just because some view him as that doesn't mean he is. so he is up their with Burns and Carlson or karlsson with his wolliping 30 something points and just below average advanced stats. If some of you view him as a 1D go nuts. Truth is he is 2RD. He would ge good beside reilly though but so is ceci.

Id say leafs pass as eberle isn't a 60 point threat any more and wahlstrom although a solid top level prospect is just that a prospect.

I prefer nylander and dermott over these 3 . that's me, your points are all valid as well. heck on a differant day i could swing the other way as well.


9.) 17 Oct 2019 20:13:18
I’m not saying Pulock is a bad dman but there is no way he is a top 32 dman in the nhl ( number 1 dman ) Toronto has a weak Dcore and I’d take Rielly/ Barrie over him all day and maybe even Muzzin.


10.) 17 Oct 2019 22:57:53
Think eberle and nylander are close for now but ebs getting into the wrong side of 30. But poluck and walhstrom is a huge overpayment for dermont to make up for it.


11.) 18 Oct 2019 16:59:29
Pulock would be the fourth best defenseman on Leafs. He’s a good top 4 defenseman, but has no upside from what we’ve seen. Dermott has far more upside.


 

 

13 Oct 2019 00:35:11
Ristolainen for Vesalainen.

Nice and easy. Kinda fills a need for both teams.

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1.) 13 Oct 2019 05:36:12
No thanks from Winnipeg. Ristolainen is not needed at all. The Jets have plenty of bottom pairing defensemen and Risto is not worth a top wing prospect.


2.) 13 Oct 2019 07:19:53
Jets add. While he can be shaky defensively, Risto is a proven and solid top 4 D. Vesalainen is unproven, could be good, could be a bust, unproven’s don’t get top 4 d straight up.


3.) 13 Oct 2019 16:25:51
No Risto is not much more than a cap dump as no team needs a -50 plus/ minus d-man at $5.4 mil a year.


4.) 13 Oct 2019 23:40:22
The more i read about ristolainen from the opinions of everyone on this site the more i'm starting to think ristolainen at 50% retained for pollman might work? .

And that's a big huge question mark.

Thoughts.


 

 

29 Sep 2019 21:26:56
Jake Virtanen for Dal Colle

Pretty straightforward trade made for obvious reasons.

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1.) 30 Sep 2019 00:52:54
NYI add a solid pick obviously not a 1st but something decent.


2.) 30 Sep 2019 01:13:46
Virtanen may be inconsistent, but at least he’s an NHL’er, not to mention his size and speed. Virtanen>>>>>Dal Colle.


3.) 30 Sep 2019 05:06:44
Easy Vertius we know you're a canucks fan, you don't got to make it obvious


4.) 30 Sep 2019 15:27:28
I like Virtanen, wish Habs could get him.


5.) 30 Sep 2019 19:16:25
Looks like a good trade for both teams.


6.) 30 Sep 2019 22:40:17
Me being a Canucks fan has nothing to do with it, my points still stand. Virtanen is an NHL regular - although sometimes inconsistent - who’s coming off his best year in the NHL who’s also a big body that can skate like the wind.

Dal Colle is 23 with 7 pts and 32 games under his belt. The fact that people are even considering these two players as ‘equal’ is more jokeworthy than memarcus’ Clownish over evaluations of Jets players.


7.) 30 Sep 2019 23:53:16
@Vertius. You are unbelievable hypocritical and ironic. Coming from the same guy that thinks two low end prospects of Philadelphia is worth more than a solid contributing nhl player like Kerfoot is, I got to know how you twist this one along with your response to the trade above to make any sense.


8.) 01 Oct 2019 00:05:27
The fact that you think Frost is a ‘low-end prospect’ says everything lmao.


9.) 01 Oct 2019 00:16:30
Yes, he is a low end prospect actually. The fact that you can’t tell the difference between a top end prospect that makes the nhl before 20 vs. a guy that has to get his points playing against kids four to five years younger than him tells me all I need to know.

You still didn’t explain your two completely different positions on these trades. How do you justify what you wrote here compared to what you wrote up above?


10.) 01 Oct 2019 01:01:01
LOL. and the frost debate goes on. when there is a split between parties on judging whether a prospect is top end or not should say enough. we never ever debated if hughes, dahlin, hischier, matthews, mcdavid, ekblad, mckinnon, hall, tavares, stamkos, crosby or ovechkin are top players because it was odvious. Once something isn't odvious then its odvious that its not that special.


11.) 01 Oct 2019 17:42:06
@Craigger,

There’s a difference between Frost and Dahlin, McDavid, MacKinnon etc. I said he was a top prospect, not a franchise prospect.

@HockeyFanatic, it’s funny how you’re demanding answers from me and yet you so blatantly ignore my dismantling of this trash post. Just admit it, you didn’t do any research before posting this. It’s alright, memarcusjoe doesn’t either, you can join the delusional Jets club (:


12.) 01 Oct 2019 20:27:08
If all the franchise players play center or D then they are the #1 C or #1 d so dubbing a non franchise prospect the title of future#1 C or D. those are designated for franchise players.

Guess if teams called
Line 1 franchise line
Line 2 line 1
Line 3 checking line
Line 4 prospect and plugger line

1st pair D franchise D
2nd pair D. Pair 1
3rd pair prospect and pluggerD

Then you could call guys like frost and thomas future 1C as they would be Unfortunetly that's not the case and the franchise guys play on the top line
Sorry if that's the way it is i don't make up the names.


 

 

22 Sep 2019 02:28:42
Detroit: Zadina, Cholowski
Winnipeg: Laine

That’s about what I expect Laine would bring right now. And I really don’t think I’m far off either. You Winnipeg guys can drink the tears in your beers all you want. He sucked last year, but pretending like he didnt. In my owns excel spreadsheet he comes in between 75-100. An unsigned 50 point getter asking asking over ten million just doesn’t bring home the bacon.

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1.) 22 Sep 2019 11:38:49
I try to practice patience with the Jets fans that are countering trade proposals here, because I get that the team itself isn't looking to trade Laine to anyone unless the offer is too good to refuse.

But time will tell if/ when Laine is traded and the players/ picks that come back will definitely come as a surprise with how underwhelming the return will be. that's just what happens when you watch a player regress or disappear for half the season. He has upside, but hasn't proven his worth compared to what he expects to be paid.

Add to that his comments in the media, the fortnite addiction, the fact that Laine didn't know how to do his own laundry when he was 18. there's character issues with this kid that any other team would have to address when bringing him into the organization.


2.) 22 Sep 2019 13:38:32
As a Wings fan, I would rather keep Zadina and Cholowski. This deal may be close but we are in a better position with both of those young players than the one player in Laine right now.

So we will pass because in our rebuilding state, not comfortable making this deal at this time.


3.) 22 Sep 2019 15:49:43
Ya I don’t see Liane a good fit in Detroit. I see him a good fit in Carolina first. Maybe Buffalo. Maybe Montreal but as soon as he takes a few games off and is terrible defensively he’d be ripped to shreds by fans and media.


4.) 22 Sep 2019 16:02:33
Those would be decent add ons to a major piece, but on their own get you laughed at. Two prospects that have shown absolutely nothing at the NHL level. Lol

Outside of Larkin, Detroit had nothing even remotely interesting to start a conversation.


5.) 22 Sep 2019 16:54:54
I’d value Zadina and Cholowski over Laine tbh.


 

 

 

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20 Oct 2019 01:13:38
Nope. Bad trade. Oiler’s don’t do this.

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20 Oct 2019 01:12:00
Is Brady Tkachuk really that much better than Nylander that Leafs need to add all that? It’s a huge premium.

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20 Oct 2019 01:07:10
Dallas don’t trade Benn for prospects. So those Montreal and Carolina deals are no good. Dallas did good last year. It was a successful season by all accounts. Look for them to build on last season. Not rebuild.

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20 Oct 2019 01:02:48
Why wouldn’t they?

Hamilton only has two years left. This year and next year. They got lots of good prospects. Not much up front. Ceci gives them fall back guy. They got lots of good guys already too so he can wLk. And they get Kapanen. A guy they can really use and are heavily rumored to be linked to.

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20 Oct 2019 00:45:02
Hall before NJ: Disappointment for 1st oa.
Hall 1st year NJ: didn’t do much more than when in Edm
Hall 2nd year NJ: actually did something
Hall 3rd year NJ: got hurt early. Season write off
Hall now: meh. Back to his old self.

Neal we knew was probably going to turn it around. Lucic, no. That was the best trade Edmonton has made in a very long time. No way Edmonton trades all this for Hall, who is back to where he was when he left the team. Slightly above average and underperformed for 1st overall.

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