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09 Jun 2020 02:33:28
To Blues
Strome

To Chicago
Perunovich

Strome replaces Bozo and Chicago gets a guy Blues should probably keep. But doesn't cost us anything off the roster to get us a decent middle six center.

St.LouisFan

1.) 09 Jun 2020 06:59:57
Not enough for Strome.


2.) 09 Jun 2020 07:30:38
We have orielly, schenn and Thomas. Kyrou made strides kostin made progress. I really don't see the need of trading perunovich for meh.


3.) 10 Jun 2020 02:28:53
Hey Blues troll guy. Welcome back. I knew you were going to come crawling out again eventually.

Bozak is gone. We ain't keeping him. Hell be traded for scrps. Switch Schenn to the wing. Or Thomas. I like Strome's physical play. It suits Blues style. Perunovich is a nobody right now. He contributes nothing. Go for it all again. Blues get the three-peat. Strome is better than Thomas and Kyrou combined. Thomas couldn't lace Strome's shoelaces and Kyrou isn't worth a jock strap.

We all know you are the Blues troll that overvalued our players. Big time. Calling Strome meh says it all. You obviously don't know what you are talking about. You are a st Louis Blues propaganda poser.


4.) 10 Jun 2020 06:23:59
So you think a single college player is worth a top 6 C? I highly doubt Chicago does this trade.


5.) 10 Jun 2020 14:44:20
Fake stl fan

I get you want to legitimize yourself by attacking me. Good for you. Strome is an good player at this point he was on pace for 60ish points.

What you don't seem to grasp is t gis thing called the salary cap. You say perunovich is a nobody yet he had 40 points in 34 games in college. He is a puck moving Dman on out PhD side which is aging.

We do not need strike. We have schenn Thomas and orielly. So you are going to slot strome on 3c and give up a player from a weak area. Also your trade props are awful.

Oh yeah who is trolling bud. Seems to be you.


6.) 10 Jun 2020 15:09:39
Also take stl

5 people agreed with me to your 1 disagree. I know it hurts but let's keep this civil.

We have a lot of good players due contracts and could possibly lose Dunn. We have kyrou kostin improving and will be low cost elc players. We also have mikola and perunovich on the left side defense coming up. Gunner can't really compete any more jaybo is done due to heart, Dunn is due for a good raise and we signed scandella. So unless we move faulk we are going to have cap issues. Adding another center we don't need will not only hurt the cap but will hurt our depth at lhd

But hey easier to attack me then perform critical thinking.


 

 

04 Jun 2020 05:10:10
To St Louis
Eichel
Ristolainen

To Buffalo
Schenn
Kostin
Kyrou
Perunovich

Schenn has to be included so salaries balance. Buffalo finally gets rid of Risto and gets another crack at a rebuild centered around Dahlin and the guys brought in with and after him. Eichel goes to a contender along with the self admittedly soon to be traded Ristolainen.

St.LouisFan

1.) 04 Jun 2020 14:08:09
Take out Eichel and it’s closer. Risto=Schenn and the other 3 players hold minimal value to a top 10 player In The NHL.


2.) 05 Jun 2020 03:51:32
I wouldn't call Eichel a top 10 player on the NHL and Risto has no value compared to Schenn. You are very much in the wrong there.


 

 

27 May 2020 02:12:33
To Ottawa
Copp
3rd

To Peg
Tierney

Aside from being the better offensive player, Tierney is also the better defensive player. Other than cf%, Tierney has Copp beat in every single category worth mentioning. Same goes for Tierney vs Lowry or Roslovic as well. No doubt about it. Tierney is the better player and would be Jets second line center

Tierney

47.8cf%, 47.8xgf%, 49.01HDCF%, 46.15HDGF%, 43.1%OZSt

Copp

51.79cf%, 46.0xgf%, 42.6HDCF%, 32.43HDGF%, 46.2%OZSt

Lowry

46.3cf%, 40.94xgf%, 34.5HDCF%, 33.3HDGF%, 33.6OZSt

Roslovic

51.5cf%, 43.91xgf%, 36.8HDCF%, 40.0HDGF%, 53.3OZSt.

St.LouisFan

1.) 27 May 2020 13:50:44
No from Winnipeg. Tierney will likely be looking for $3.5 mil a year on his next contract. Too much money for a 3C.


2.) 27 May 2020 15:11:38
But Joe. Right now Lowry is making 3 million. So you wouldn't give Tierney the extra 0.5 million to do a better job?

Also, Copp and Lowry and Roslovic are all due raises this summer or next. What do you think they will be asking for? If any of them ask for over 3 million, then Tierney is not only the better player, he will be cheaper for what he does too.


3.) 27 May 2020 15:21:36
And that's why I said when this was brought up 2 or 3 posts down. Maybe after next year if Tierney signs a decent contract and if Lowry and Copp price themselves out, then we could look at bringing him in. Right now it would be wasting a 3rd round pick on a player that won't make a difference.


4.) 27 May 2020 15:22:15
Looking at these numbers again, it's actually not surprising that Winnipeg did so bad this year. Like, all three of Winnipeg's players had HDGF% of 40 and under. That is terrible for a full time NHL player that is supposedly a defence first style player.


5.) 27 May 2020 15:42:55
Tierney may be better center than Copp but what the Jets really need is a true #2 center. Tierney, Copp, Lowry and Eakin, are a collection of 3/ 4 centers while Roslovic has never been given a chance to be a #2. All this trade would do is exchange similar centers, with similar signing problems and the Jets also give up a 3rd. The Jet would be better off trading for a true #2 center and if Copp, the 3rd and extra pieces could be part of a package to get a 2nd it would be to the Jets advantage to wait.


6.) 27 May 2020 16:29:23
Exactly Islandjet. A slightly better 3C doesn't really make any difference and would just be a waste of a 3rd round pick in a deep draft. As we've said all along, if the Jets are going to spend assets it would be on something they need, like a real 2C, not paying a hefty price to marginally upgrade the bottom 6.


7.) 27 May 2020 19:10:51
So. we all know that the Jets need a 2C. who do you think they would be able to target Island and Joe?


8.) 27 May 2020 19:45:58
Unfortunately, it doesn't look like there are any available, so the Jets will likely have to make do in-house. Maybe with Chevy's ties to Chicago they take a look at Strome if he is really available, or if Tampa can't find a way to move salary to keep Cirelli they can look at that, but he would probably be to costly to acquire. Possibly an NHL ready 2C falls to us in the draft or a 2C that none of us know is available becomes available at a reasonable cost.

Most likely the Jets roll with what they have and use a mix of Little (if he comes back), Wheeler, Copp and finally give Roslovic a chance at 2C. I'm also figuring that the Jets likely won't re-sign Eakin.


9.) 27 May 2020 22:53:39
Right now Little is the Jets best option as a #2 center. Its just unfortunate that he has very little chemistry playing with Laine and Ehlers. If Roslovic is given a fair chance to play between Laine and Ehlers Little would be a great #3 center. So there is no need to trade for an unproven Tierney as they still have Lowry and Copp. The Jets should possibly look to make an RFA an offer if they still think they need a #2 center.


10.) 28 May 2020 03:44:50
Unproven Tierney? He's played 436 games and has averaged over 40 points in each of the last three seasons. His numbers are very good for a #2C. He's a lot more proven than Roslovic and has been playing top six in Ottawa already so is more than capable of running his own line against top competition.

I don't know what you guys expect. You had Stastny and Hayes and lost them both. You aren't going to get a 1b center for the trash you guys offer up as quality players.


11.) 28 May 2020 08:59:56
I'm not sold on Tierney. I see him more as a really good 4th line ctr on a good team. He gets more ice time in Ottawa by default.


12.) 28 May 2020 16:20:15
He had a 40 point season in San Jose, his stats are actually super underrated. I don’t know anything about him but he’s put up solid numbers.


13.) 28 May 2020 16:23:28
Stastny and Hayes wanted too much money for too long a term and the Jets already have Little with that type of contract. The Jets have too many 3/ 4 centers of their own so why add another in Tierney?


 

 

23 May 2020 03:46:52
To St Louis
Dermott

To Toronto
Perunovich, HoSang

Leafs don't need Dermott. We do. Perunovich is a long term replacement. Should be ready right about same time Muzzin dies of old age.

St.LouisFan

1.) 23 May 2020 13:47:36
Underwhelming offer would rather resign Dermott and shift him to the right side beside Rielly or Muzzin.


2.) 23 May 2020 13:55:15
How does Toronto not need Dermott. He is probably one of there top 4 defensive dmen who has the ability to play both sides of the ice. No thank you.


3.) 23 May 2020 22:07:34
Dermott doesn't okay both sides of the ice. Please tell me how many games/ minutes he has played on his off side. And as far as I know Leafs have esse totally replaced Dermott with Sandin and Lehtonen, making Dermott very much available.

Perunovich won the Hoby Baker award. He might not be as good as Makar but he is a very good okayer.


 

 

12 May 2020 02:53:29
To St Louis
Vesalainen

To the Peg
Kostin
Perunovich

Both forwards are pretty even, but Ves is a bit bigger and will fit Blues system better. In return Blues get a guy virtually equal plus a good defence prospect that is almost NHL ready.

St.LouisFan

1.) 12 May 2020 13:55:21
There's nothing really in it for Winnipeg. The Jets don't need Kostin or Perunovich.


2.) 12 May 2020 14:21:02
The Jets would be better off keeping Ves as this trade would just be a lateral one that doesn't include a sure fire game changer but 3 wait and see prospects.


3.) 12 May 2020 17:02:01
You guys are too much. Unbelievable. You get an equal player back plus a very good defence prospect. So two assets for one and you don't lose anything talent wise. It's called talent acquisition and asset management. Two things neither of you have any clue about. Blues wouldn't do this. Why would they?


4.) 12 May 2020 20:10:58
So, trading one player that the Jets need for two players that they don't need is what you call "talent acquisition"?

You haven't been shy about displaying your profound lack of hockey knowledge SLF. This is just another example.


5.) 12 May 2020 20:27:55
St. LouisFan. If Kostin and Perunovich were so great why are you trying to trade them? The Jets are happy keeping Ves. and don't need a small minor league d-man and a forward coming off a serious shoulder injury after he was sent back down having only played a handful of NHL games. The Blues should keep the two of them as you believe the Jets would be robbing St. Louis by trading just Ves.


6.) 13 May 2020 01:29:28
Can you jets fans lighten up a bit? You guys say the same thing everytime, "no chance from Winnipeg, we have enough of this position". Can you guys please Try to say something positive? I would like that.


7.) 13 May 2020 01:45:59
I do think Blues are better off keeping what they got. I just think you guys are delusional about your players values. And obviously I'm not the only one who thinks that.


8.) 13 May 2020 14:08:15
Farmboy, a better idea would be for posters to try and propose better trades, that possibly help both teams. Rather than the usual lopsided trades that only benefit the OP's favourite team. I would like that.


9.) 13 May 2020 23:17:05
How does it benefit St. Louis when it is in Winnipeg's favor?


 

 

 

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11 Jun 2020 12:23:13
2015 Best Draft Ever?

Almost every player from the first has made it to the NHL or at least has played NHL in some capacity. And it just keeps giving. The second round gave up almost as many NHL players as a normal first round. Each round has produced at least one NHL player. Including the best player in the world right now.

St.LouisFan

1.) 11 Jun 2020 13:40:16
2003 was also pretty good.


2.) 11 Jun 2020 21:07:43
So was 1979. But I think we still haven't even seen what 2015 will turn out to be. Some of those guys are just coming into their own now. So in another five years could be even more impressive.


 

 

09 May 2020 02:13:06
Ottawa and Rangers are going to be the next two powerhouses in the league. Rangers are set to contend maybe even this year. Ottawa will be a couple more years, but they have the talent to pull it off. Especially hitting it big with possibly two top five picks. Even they can't screw this up. A team with Tkachuk, Chabot, Brannstrom, Norris, Batheson, Balcers, Abramov, Thomson, plus whoever they draft this year (I'm assuming they get at least Byfield) . That's a team set to compete for a very long time.

St.LouisFan

1.) 09 May 2020 14:47:37
I disagree with the rangers. Paniran and Shestykan will get them in playoffs but their Dcore and offensive depth is not great Zibanajad I compare to someone like Monahan a good 1B but not an elite guy. I don’t think they win a cup with him as a 1C. Who knows what Kakko will turn out NYI be hopefully he breaks out next season and gets time on the top line. Their Roster composition isn’t great imo. Players like Kravstov and there other prospects haven’t been looking to be elite by any means.

As per Ottawa way to early for all we know Byfield could bust and there other pick could be underwhelming. Lafranier is the only “sure thing” but they don’t have him yet. Although their future is looking bright.


2.) 09 May 2020 14:55:14
I disagree with The Sens. I feel they will be like the Montreal Expos were to baseball. they will grow the talent, then they will leave for better contracts 🤷‍♂️. hope not, be nice to see Ottawa do good .


3.) 11 May 2020 16:12:08
Well so far that's what it seems like. They sure lost a lot of good player the last few years.

Montreal was forced to sell all their players because of the baseball strike. It screwed Expos majorly and probably cost the city a championship that year, and the team itself in the end.


4.) 12 May 2020 02:10:36
Rangers got a helluva good defence though vbbb. Right side is so stacked that they had Trouba playing third line at some points. Next year should see the arrival of Millar. Staal is still a bottom four NHL defenceman even if he is overpaid for what he does. That's a good top 5. Lundqvist is a long shot, but he should be making waves soon.

I don't know how you can say Zibanejad isn't good enough. He's done nothing but get better every year he's played. You mention Kravstov, who is only 20 and had 15 points in forty games first year NA hockey, which is also pretty good. But even if he doesn't work out for them, they still have Kakko bound to breakout, Hettinger looking good, and a couple other solid guys like Chytil, Andersson, and even Sean Day, who are a bit of a longer shot, but still have potential to be depth players. In net they have Georgiev and Shesterkin and even a solid prospect in Lindbom.

Rangers are good now and will be good for a long time. If they don't win a cup in the next ten years I would be surprised.


5.) 22 May 2020 14:19:32
I agree with vb. Ranger are not at the sam stage as the sens. They are a good team, and getting better, But I wouldn't compare them to the sens.


 

 

 

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07 Jul 2020 11:43:49
Yeah. It depends on who is doing the picking. If you look at picks 3-8, in every single case there are two players that are worth more than the first overall. It all depends on who is doing the picking and who they pick. Just saying the 3 and 5 didn't outperform the 1st when Matthews and McDavid were picked is meaningless. Because the draft could easily have gone a lot different (marner at 3rd instead of Strome in the year McDavid was picked for example, or Tkachuk at 5th the year Matthews was picked) .

There are a lot of studies on this subject. And they all say the same thing. The 3 and 5 are worth more in any given year than the number 1 is. Even when there is a generational talent involved.

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07 Jul 2020 11:24:14
They are both wingers, so your argument that Puljujarvi would only be playing 3rd line is meaningless, as that's where Vesalainen would be playing too.

Less than a year age difference but Puljujarvi has over 130 more NHL games played than Vesalainen. Puljujarvi was a point a game player in his league last year, while Vesalainen wasn't even half that. Even if you compare AHL numbers Puljujarvi has better numbers 37 pts in 53 games vs 43 in 82 for Vesalainen.

So please, explain to me why exactly Vesalainen is a better prospect than Puljujarvi? Because it doesn't look that way. I can understand saying you don't want him because he is a malcontent and holdout. But to say that he will only ever he a 3rd line player and is worse prospect than Vesalainen doesn't hold true and is just typical Winnipeg wieners being weenies.

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05 Jul 2020 05:19:14
I mean, Point had a down year. Twenty five goals and a point a game player is still a great player, but it's a real let down from the previous years success that saw him score over forty goals and over ninety points. So you can argue somewhat that his value might be lower. This season was more in line with his first year. Last year was a abberation and not representative of his long term outlook. But even so, a twenty five to thirty goal scorer that averages a point a game playing centre is still much more valuable than what's offered here.

Maybe if it was a package that actually included another centre coming back to replace Point it might have more chops. A package built around Suzuki, along with say Poehling or Caufield, plus Primeau and a decenseman, oh say Mete or Brook, plus Alzners contract to balance salaries. Then I could maybe see Tampa consider it.

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05 Jul 2020 05:01:53
Exchange Murray for Job NES and it's a lot closer. Maybe now you can argue that Columbus won't do it. But it's a lot closer still than what is posted.

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05 Jul 2020 04:57:45
Yeah. But most of Nylanders contract has already been paid. His cap hit remains at seven but his actually salary owed is much less. I don't remember how much less but it's a lot lower as Toronto has already paid out forty percent of Nylanders salary.

Would Dubas be willing to take a player over thirty years old signed to a long term contract? I don't think so. I think Ellis is a great player, but that contract will be a boat anchor by the time it's done.

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