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06 Feb 2020 03:47:47
To La:
Trevor Moore, 2020 3rd round pick, *Conditional 2021 3rd round pick
Not sure what the condition is yet

To Toronto:
Jack Campbell, Kyle Clifford (50% salary retained)

I think this trade benefits the leafs the most because although Campbell hasn't posted the best GAA or sv%, he has been playing for LA so that obviously didn't help. Plus he did post a .928 last year and that is very solid.

Clifford is definitely an upgrade over Moore in my books. Even though he is on an expiring contract, He can play on the 4th line, play on the pk, put up a decent amount of points, and he is able to stand up for his teammates which the leafs desperately need

As for Moore, he is a great young player with speed but he needed a fresh start imo. Only 5 points in 27 games and 0 since he got back from injury. He has got a lot of potential and the Kings are getting a good young forward.

The picks are just magic beans tho so idk if a 3rd really alters the deal that much.

What are your thoughts?


1.) 06 Feb 2020 07:55:54
Lol who tf put unbelievable when its a trade that actually happened lmao.

2.) 06 Feb 2020 16:50:55
Nice deal for the leafs only thing now is a good RHD then they’re set.

3.) 07 Feb 2020 18:46:24
If by set you mean set for a round 1 exit you are absolutely right vb.

4.) 07 Feb 2020 20:08:10
Depends how good the RHD is.

5.) 08 Feb 2020 04:33:33
Vancouver hasn’t been in the playoffs since 2015, which was a first round exit. I’d love to see any team but the leafs face the Bruins.



25 Jan 2020 19:13:10
Saw all of these trades on a post from Editor in Leaf, none of them are actually my ideas so don't be mad at me.

Trade 1:

To Min:
Bracco, Ceci, Bouthillier
To Tor:
Brodin, 2021 4th

Now I think this trade is totally one sided and that the leafs would likely have to add at least one of Johnsson or Kerfoot to get the deal done. Brodin is definitely having a bounce back season and he has a decent contract.

Trade 2:

To NJ:
Johnsson, Kerfoot, Hollowell, Stotts, 2022 1st round pick**
To Tor:
Coleman, Vatanen

**The pick is conditional and NJ receives it if the leafs make it to the second round. However, the post did not specify what NJ gets if this does not occur

Not really sure how I feel about this one. Coleman and Vatanen are both having career years and Coleman has a steal of a contract. He will likely hit 30 goals imo and Vatanen will likely have around 30-35 points. However, the leafs are giving up two good young players who have something that Coleman and Vatanen don't have, and that is term. Coleman only has 2 years left, Vatanen only 1, compared to Johnsson and Kerfoot who both have 4. Not to mention there is a first round pick involved if the leafs manage to first off make the playoffs this year and secondly actually win a round. Would love to here your thoughts on this one.

Last trade:

Hutch, 2020 4th, 2021 3rd, 2022 3rd
To Tor:

No money retained in this deal so the leafs would need to trade Ceci before they could do this. Allen has been much better this year and I don't know if St. Louis will trade him when all they are getting is a few of mid round picks and a terrible goalie. Leafs will need to add to this one for sure.

What are your thoughts on these trades? Who wins them? Would love to here your thoughts.


1.) 25 Jan 2020 20:02:43
Deals 1 and 3 heavily favour the Leafs and deal 2 favours the Leafs as well just not as bad as the other 2. What year is the first round pick from. The Leafs already traded their first this year didn't they?

2.) 25 Jan 2020 21:12:36
The first round pick is from 2022, sorry I thought I put that in, but I completely agree with you that trades 1 and 3 heavily favour the leafs.

As for trade 2, I think if the leafs still gave NJ a second round pick if they didn’t make the second round that it would be fair.



23 Jan 2020 06:32:13
To NJ:
Bracco, Johnsson, Ceci, 2nd 2021
To Leafs:
Coleman, Vatanen, 5th 2020


2020 3rd, Timashov, Harpur
To Leafs:

*Mikheyev (injured)

*Reilly (injured)


Leafs might need to add a bit to the NJ one (another prospect like Hollowell or something) but I think it benefits both teams long term.


1.) 23 Jan 2020 12:12:41
I say NJ keeps Coleman and the leafs keep Johnsson. The rest of the NJ trade seems ok but Vatanen is nothing special. An upgrade over Ceci, yes.



10 Jan 2020 20:12:30
Bracco, Timashov, Ceci, 2021 2nd, 3rd 2020 if necessary (depending on if you view Ceci as a cap dump from Toronto)

Vatanen, 2020 5th


*Rooney, Hayden
(I'm assuming Simmonds is traded by the deadline since there is no point in New Jersey keeping him)



1.) 11 Jan 2020 08:30:58
Way too much for a rental that wouldn’t be playing top line.

2.) 11 Jan 2020 20:11:45
Ya I guess, I was just thinking people would rip on me since Ceci is involved and there was no 1st round pick lol.

3.) 12 Jan 2020 05:47:53
A little too much from the Leafs.

4.) 12 Jan 2020 10:36:17
People on this site will rip on you no matter so long as their team is involved. Even if it heavily favours their team. Just go to the Leafs site if you’re a fan.

5.) 12 Jan 2020 11:35:18
People rip on a lot of people regardless what teams involved. Good call tho.



27 Sep 2019 08:24:28
To Leafs:
Pietrangelo (1-2 mill retained), 1st 2020, 2nd 2021

To Blues:
Hyman, Ceci, Bracco

Now before you start yelling at me, I am not the one who came up with this proposal. I think this is totally lopsided.

Here is the article that I retrieved this from.

Someone needs to get fired for writing such a lopsided trade, and this is coming from a leafs fan


1.) 27 Sep 2019 11:32:16
Please explain why on earth a cup defending champs would trade down for such a sheet offer. Blues have a surplus of young wingers. Don't need to downgrade at defense. With jaybo ufa next year that 3 mil will all we need to get petro to 8 -10 mil a year he wants.

Fake news.

2.) 27 Sep 2019 12:11:14
Best part is a leaf fan in the comments saying “I could live with this deal” as if Leafs would have to think hard about it.

3.) 27 Sep 2019 12:53:12
Bit parts for the STL captain who also happens to be a top-pairing RHD. Absolutely ridiculous.
In other words a pretty typical leafs fan trade proposal.

4.) 27 Sep 2019 14:19:47
I know I'll be accused of being a Blues homer but I don't believe they would ever do this trade. Plus I don't think the Leafs have their 1st this season.

5.) 27 Sep 2019 15:47:56

That's the thing the trade is asking for blues first rnd pick. Absolutley ridic.

6.) 27 Sep 2019 16:09:35
St Louis laughs.3 avg players for their captain and draft picks? Unbelievable.




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12 Mar 2020 17:28:22
Welp there goes the season


1.) 12 Mar 2020 18:02:31
Not sure how they are going to end it. hopefully they get everything cleared up soon.



24 Feb 2020 20:57:04
World Roster

*Stamkos, Malkin




1.) 25 Feb 2020 08:04:04
Hughes and Makar have no business in being there (yet) .
Vasilevskiy in his second half form belongs there, first half doesnt.

2.) 25 Feb 2020 17:52:48
Ya I know Hughes and Makar don't belong but I was like F it Doughty, Weber, Karlsson, Letang and Burns just aren't the players they used to be and I couldn't really thing of anybody else to add.

I literally just took the top 6 scoring defenceman and they were there. Deangelo has the same amount of points as Makar but Makar has played fewer games

Who would you have instead?

3.) 25 Feb 2020 17:59:08
I’d go something like

Drai Mcdavid Mckinnon
Marchand Crosby Pasta
Ovie Pettersson Kane
Panarin Malkin Stone.

4.) 25 Feb 2020 22:45:09
Yupp I know I’m a leafs fan but are you on Crack?! Pettersson over Mathews, Eichel, Kopitar, Schifele, Bergeron and Malkin? Whattt?

5.) 25 Feb 2020 23:29:42


Slavin-Pietrangelo/ Jones


Very early but Shestikan (NYR)

6.) 26 Feb 2020 07:23:05

my D would prolly look like this:

Hedman - Josi
Carlson - Karlsson
Jones - Pietrangelo

@VB: How are Stamkos and Point not even an HM? Also, how is Dahlin not in there? lol.

7.) 26 Feb 2020 21:32:36
I was on the Edge with Stamkos if I were to add 1 more to the list it’d be him/ Tavares/ Marner but not Point. Just don’t think he’s at their level yet.



18 Feb 2020 15:49:53
I don't know why everyone thinks Manson is worth so much. I can understand why a team may target him, I know he is considered to be a good defensive player, but is he really worth giving up a young top 6 forward?

Manson is not having the best year of his career. That came back in the 2017-18 seaoson when he hit 37 points and had great all around stats. However, he hasn't come remotely close to those numbers again.

This year, in 40 games mind you, he only has 6 points and is a -5. His CF% is only 49.6% and his oZS% is a meer 48.9%. He doesn't seem like a defensively reliable guy to me.

This is not a guy team should be trading for, especially when he carries a cap hit of $4.1 million over the next 3 seasons (including this one).

Manson has his perks, yes he is a "big player", but he is highly overrated and is a very high risk right now. Not even high rewards, just high risk.

So can we please stop trading top prospects, young players, and top 6 forwards for this guy? The value is just nowhere close to fair.


1.) 18 Feb 2020 22:19:22
I agree 100% people here can be very ignorant at times.

2.) 19 Feb 2020 02:28:33
I honestly don’t know but what’s his CF% compared to his teammates, and most common line mates with/ without him? To me that matters more than anything, if it’s significantly better when he’s on the ice he’s being dragged down not the other way around. Anaheim’s a dumpster fire they likely aren’t helping him. Not saying he’s a stud or anything but I personally find the relative numbers more useful in looking at a players influence especially on poor teams.

3.) 19 Feb 2020 19:06:44
Did Manson sleep with your girlfriend or something.



14 Dec 2019 21:53:02
Who has more trade value, Pietrangelo or Hall?


1.) 15 Dec 2019 00:21:23
Oh boy. that's a tough one. I'll say Hall, due to the fact he is more dynamic. but Petro is about as steady a Dman in the game. hmm

In 15 mins I may change my mind. Lol. this was a good?

2.) 15 Dec 2019 02:46:50
Hall is a couple years younger but apart from winning the hart trophy a couple years ago he hasn’t really done anything. Petrangelo captained a cup championship team, won a gold medal in Olympics and has a good track record for staying healthy. Defence are generally more valuable than wingers. I’d give the edge to Petrangelo.

3.) 15 Dec 2019 12:31:07
Petros like worth Drai+Nurse+1st as a ufa. He’s pretty much unreal and there’s not chance Army considers trading him unless miss for like Matthews %67.5 retained + Rielly for Petro + Allen + just %50 of every Blues contract.

4.) 15 Dec 2019 12:31:44
Ya Army isn’t interested in anything less. Thomas is a #1 Center ya.

5.) 15 Dec 2019 17:03:40
Yupp you sound butt hurt cause the blues are awesome and the oilers have 1 good line. hmmmm. Cup jealous much.

6.) 16 Dec 2019 16:48:09
Lol. Nah I’m just trolling making fun of you, not the Blues, I don’t mind the Blues at all. Really like most of their players.

7.) 17 Dec 2019 16:12:34
Oh yeah you got me real goid snowflake
#yupp triggered lol.

8.) 21 Dec 2019 00:32:53
Oiler’s don’t have one good line. They have two good players. That’s it. 2/ 3 of a line. After that you have a couple decent guys on second line and the rest is AHL’ers.



24 Sep 2019 21:01:47
1. Lightning
2. Bruins
3. Panthers
4. Leafs
5. Canadiens
6. Sabres
7. Red Wings
8. Senators

1. Capitals
2. Hurricanes
3. Devils
4. Penguins
5. Flyers
6. Rangers
7. Islanders
8. Blue Jackets

1. Predators
2. Blues
3. Jets
4. Stars
5. Avalanche
6. Blackhawks
7. Wild

1. Flames
2. Knights
3. Sharks
4. Coyotes
5. Canucks
6. Ducks
7. Oilers
8. Kings


1.) 24 Sep 2019 23:03:41
How is the Stanley cup defending champs not #1.

2.) 25 Sep 2019 00:56:49
Nashville is just the better regular season team in my opinion, but in the playoffs they seem to fizzle. I have no problem with the Blues being ahead of Nashville, I think they will go farther in the playoffs for sure.

It's just in recent years Nashville has proven to be the top team in the Central during the regular season. That's really the only reason. Both teams are very evenly matched though, so I would not be surprised if the Blues take the top spot.

3.) 25 Sep 2019 01:52:41
What? Lol how were they dead last January 1st? The only thing I’d change about the central is switching the Jets and Avalanche. Also the Oilers and the Flames. Lol.

4.) 25 Sep 2019 02:17:29
It’s regular season predictions I guess. Even Cup Champions don’t always have the best regular season record ( Kings in 2012) Blues will still make the Playoffs and play well.

Can’t guarantee a top division team in a tough division.

5.) 25 Sep 2019 05:48:15
nhl. com has St. Loius st #12 so forgive thermo for having an opinion.

6.) 25 Sep 2019 14:44:06
Not a bad list. I would switch Leafs and Bruins, as well as Jets and Avalanche.
Who do you have for Wild Cards?

7.) 25 Sep 2019 18:26:47
FLA with more points than TOR? That’s a bold prediction. TOR are supposed to the the leading cup favorites.

8.) 25 Sep 2019 18:39:47
Whoever is 4th in the Atlantic will take the top wild card spot in the east but the second wildcard could go to a lot of teams so idk about that one

I expect both wildcards in the west to go to whoever comes 4th and 5th in the central but maybe Arizona can sneak in.

9.) 25 Sep 2019 21:19:49
I hope I'm wrong but I really think the Jets may be hard pressed to make the playoffs this season.

10.) 26 Sep 2019 00:07:17
islandjet, without buff laine or conner, at least youll be picking top 7-8

things to look forward too.

and maurice getting canned losing 4 of his top 7 players.

11.) 26 Sep 2019 16:39:58
How is that Mourices fault Obie? 🤔.

12.) 26 Sep 2019 19:31:41
Never said it was his fault. how many coaches are fired when its not their fault. most of them.

13.) 27 Sep 2019 05:11:18
I have Dallas and Colorado 1 and 2, Winnipeg down with Chicago and minny.




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02 Apr 2020 15:26:37
Honestly I think you’re overpaying all 3 RFA’s, Gauthier and Malgin should sign for league minimum and Dermott should not be signed for over 2 mill aav on a one or two year bridge deal.

They can’t afford Pietrangelo unless they trade all of Kerfoot, Kapanen, and Johnsson or the cap somehow still goes up after this year.




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25 Mar 2020 16:26:13
memarcusjoe this has gone on long enough. You are undervaluing leafs players to the point where you think they are all worth nothing. You obviously have not looked at any stats this years and are going off of stats from 2 years ago.

Manson is an okay defenceman but he has no offensive output and his contract says top 4 guy. He is a bottom pairing guy at best. Not even worth half of that package.




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13 Mar 2020 05:14:45
Basically Toronto has 2 million dollars added onto their cap after this trade for next year. So the cap evens out a 4 mill on each team.

The stats of the two players are actually very similar this year.
However, because Johnson is older and likely declining, while Holl can be a stead top 6 defenceman for the next 4-5 years, I think the leafs pass. Dubas wants to keep this team young and cheap. Adding Eric Johnson to the mix just doesn't seem like something he would do.

Overall who is the better player? Probably Johnson. But who has more years left in them, Holl. I understand the trade from this point of view. I just don't see either team making it.




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01 Mar 2020 15:34:37
Unbiased, you have seen their stats right? You understand Nylander is an Elite player and Anderson is simply a top 4 d. You don’t trade elite players for decent players.




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29 Feb 2020 17:14:30
Lmaooooo that’s such an overpayement for an overpaid bottom pairing defenceman who can’t do anything but hit people and stand there like a pylon.





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