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08 Oct 2019 13:10:57
Oilers: Russel , Bear + 2nd round pick (maybe + a Ahl player like maximov with potential)

Jets: Ehlers

Jets get 2 dmen that can make the roster , bear have proven that he can play at nhl level and have great potential to be a good offensive RD


Oilers get a Top 6 LW to play with RnH and neal

Swechamp

1.) 08 Oct 2019 13:53:08
Lol. Not close. A cap dump, a meh prospect and a second doesn't get you anywhere near a first line winger.


2.) 08 Oct 2019 14:00:46
I would do Lipon for that though. It gives the Oilers a player that is easily top 6 for them.


3.) 08 Oct 2019 14:04:32
. But you would need to keep Russel.


4.) 08 Oct 2019 15:29:51
Another dumb post trying to rob the Jets.


5.) 08 Oct 2019 15:44:54
how about

nurse, puljijarvi and Bear

for

ehlers, pollman.


6.) 08 Oct 2019 16:02:47
No thanks from Winnipeg. Nurse is going to want a big raise next year and isn't worth giving up Ehlers for.


7.) 08 Oct 2019 16:03:57
With Larson out the Oilers aren’t trading Nurse unless it’s in a deal for an upgrade on D.
Russell would be a top pairing on the Jets right now tho boys 😂😂.


8.) 08 Oct 2019 16:04:59
Nurse > Ehlers & Poolman


9.) 08 Oct 2019 16:13:39
im getting 2 differant stories here

either nurse is greater than ehlers
or
ehlers is greater than nurse

cant have both

so
nurse straight up for ehlers.


10.) 08 Oct 2019 16:18:29
Nurse is a low end second pairing guy. Definitely won't get Ehlers straight up. Puljujarvi holds zero value for the Jets and Bear is meh.


11.) 08 Oct 2019 16:44:26
If Nurse was on the Jets he would be one of the best top pairing guys in the league to Marcus.


12.) 08 Oct 2019 16:50:47
I don't think so yupp. Jets fans rate players objectively. Homers like yourself, see Nurse as a god.


13.) 08 Oct 2019 16:52:04
At least you don't deny Nurse is a low end second pairing defenseman at best.


14.) 08 Oct 2019 17:34:52
is ehlers considered a top line guy to jets fans?

this is where i'm confused

thought this deal was a 2nd line forward for a 2nd pairing D

once they tranfer to their new teams they both become 1st line/ first pairing guys

am i missing something here?


15.) 08 Oct 2019 18:33:14
You might understand this better craigger. Would you trade Nylander for Nurse? No, you wouldn't and we all agree that Ehlers is better than Nylander and also has a better contract. Nurse simply isn't good enough for the Jets to consider moving Ehlers for.


16.) 08 Oct 2019 18:52:33
And Morrisey is a number 1D I’m guessing? I’d say Nurse and Morrisey are pretty comparable.


17.) 08 Oct 2019 19:30:45
Lol. Ebs. Nurse is nowhere near the same quality as Morrissey. Morrissey has played and excels on the top pairing. Nurse can't play top pairing and is best suited to low end 4D duties. Nurse is basically Zach Bogosian without the injury history.


18.) 08 Oct 2019 20:18:04
Lmao. No where do I say he is a god. You’re trying to put words in my mouth to try and push your homer idea. And I bash my team constantly, unlike yourself.
You should just like Trudeau. Lol.
Ehlers isn’t better than Nylander or Nurse. But you're a waste of time to even try having a conversation with.
Hope you have a great day tho little guy.


19.) 08 Oct 2019 20:37:50
Trade talent wise would work if Jones, Legasson or Samkarov were in the mix instead of Bear.

Cap wise, Oilers I don't' think have the cap space to do this unless there was 1M retention by Winnipeg, or Manning was traded instead of Bear.

Both teams are suffering from thin D's right now, so 2 dmen out of Edm, 0 back seems a little unlikely at this time. Russel would really help the Jets thin D for sure and Ehlers would help Edm's forward lines. But trade with Bear favors Winnipeg too heavily and the cap problem exists.


20.) 08 Oct 2019 20:39:05
I bet Nurse averaged more ice time per game and had more points than Morrissey last year.


21.) 08 Oct 2019 20:52:35
Now you're feelings are hurt yupp? You're the one who was trying to pass Nurse off as a top pairing defenseman. Talk about homerism. I agree though you are far too biased to have a good debate with.


22.) 08 Oct 2019 21:13:20
The only reason Nurse had more minutes is because Edmonton had an awful defense and Nurse was slightly better than the other crud they had. Minutes don't make a player top pairing quality. Ability does.


23.) 08 Oct 2019 22:03:08
Nurse has Klefbom to compete with for ice time on the left side. Who does Morrisey have? Maybe he had more minutes because he plays both special teams. A D doesn’t just get lucky and get 40 points. It may have been a good year for him but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him back in the 35 point ish range.

And settle down I’m not saying Nurse is better. Just like Yup didn’t say Nurse is a godly number 1. But to say there not even close shows your homerism. The only thing you can do is put words in other people’s mouths.


24.) 08 Oct 2019 22:41:01
First of Nylander > ehlers everyday

Why do you keep saying Oilers d is bad?
Jets got a bottom 5 d core right now

I mean even Ottawa got better d lineup than jets got against penguins tonight.


25.) 08 Oct 2019 23:06:37
Nurse and morrisey are basically the same guy same age and handed same advanced stats

Only thing is nurse is bigger much bigger

Nurse is also a bit more offensive and hasn't had the rhd that morrisey had to develop beside. Guess this year morrisey will get to play with no help so we will see how he really does. If you don't want to help morrisey with a partner enjoy the watch. your loss. trading offece, which is winnipegs strength, for defence help would be wise but hey whatever

And yes i'd do nylander for nurse last season. however, now leafs don't truely need a dman so i wouldn't do deal now.

Ill ask you this memarcusjoe. if morrisey was on edmonton would you trade ehlers for him?


26.) 09 Oct 2019 05:42:09
Nurse worth way more then ehlers, how is this a conversation? Craziness.


27.) 09 Oct 2019 00:55:33
Nurse is another example of the Oilers mishandling a young player. Due to their traditionally weak defense the Oilers rushed Nurse and expect him to be their #1 d-man before he was ready. He makes way too many mistakes over and over again that a true #1 doesn't do. Also he will expect a large contract next year that he doesn't deserve. Having said that he's the best d-man the Oilers have.


28.) 09 Oct 2019 02:00:57
If Morrissey was on Edmonton, yes I would trade Ehlers for him. Nurse isn't the same quality though. Nurse has terrible hockey sense which keeps him as a #4D, Oilers fans always complain about him and we're only guaranteed of having him for one season.

Morrissey is a top pairing D, has hockey smarts and is all around better than Nurse. So, it's not a good comparison. Especially when you throw in Morrissey's contract compared to Nurse's.

Then when you consider that Ehlers has a 6 year contract at a bargain rate and Nurse has one year left on his contract before asking for a big raise and is also LD, which isn't a long term need. All this makes it makes it pretty easy to turn down for the Jets.

I know panic trades like this one are fun to discuss, but think of it this way. Would Nurse make the Jets more of a Cup contender? No, definitely not. The Jets are in for a rough year this season, so wasting excellent, young assets, signed long term, on a marginal upgrade that won't make or break the season, is terrible asset management. Ehlers will be much more valuable to the Jets long term than one year of Nurse.


29.) 09 Oct 2019 06:51:33
Nurse is another example of the Oilers mishandling a young player. Due to their traditionally weak defense the Oilers rushed Nurse and expect him to be their #1 d-man before he was ready. He makes way too many mistakes over and over again that a true #1 doesn't do. Also he will expect a large contract next year that he doesn't deserve. Having said that he's the best d-man the Oilers have.


30.) 09 Oct 2019 06:53:57
If Morrissey was on Edmonton, yes I would trade Ehlers for him. Nurse isn't the same quality though. Nurse has terrible hockey sense which keeps him as a #4D, Oilers fans always complain about him and we're only guaranteed of having him for one season.

Morrissey is a top pairing D, has hockey smarts and is all around better than Nurse. So, it's not a good comparison. Especially when you throw in Morrissey's contract compared to Nurse's.

Then when you consider that Ehlers has a 6 year contract at a bargain rate and Nurse has one year left on his contract before asking for a big raise and is also LD, which isn't a long term need. All this makes it makes it pretty easy to turn down for the Jets.

I know panic trades like this one are fun to discuss, but think of it this way. Would Nurse make the Jets more of a Cup contender? No, definitely not. The Jets are in for a rough year this season, so wasting excellent, young assets, signed long term, on a marginal upgrade that won't make or break the season, is terrible asset management. Ehlers will be much more valuable to the Jets long term than one year of Nurse.


31.) 09 Oct 2019 06:56:09
Nurse worth way more then ehlers, how is this a conversation? Craziness.


32.) 09 Oct 2019 09:58:18
since he started in the league morrisey has had a top 4 RHD to play with. Buff, trouba or myers take your pick. Every time morrisey hit the ice 1 of these guys where on it with him.

Lets see if morrisey truely is what you all write he is without a partner.

Nurse and morriseys advanced stas are identical and that's with morrisey having someone capable of holding their own every time he went on the ice on the right side. Say bye bye to morrisey looking half descent.


33.) 09 Oct 2019 12:27:24
Nurse signed the same bridge deal as Morrissey so there’s a good chance he signs a similar long term deal. Also he’s an RFA so your not guaranteed him for only a year.
Nurse played all of his junior years and when he was brought in he definitely wasn’t expected to be a number 1. Why do you make this stuff up? Morrissey played a whole 50 more AHL games than Nurse. Not a lot.
And yes Island Jet he makes mistakes, no one said he was a true number 1. Lol.


34.) 09 Oct 2019 16:04:31
Lol. You’re such an idiot Marcus 😂😂.
Kinda make me laugh tho, at you not with you. It’s been pretty sad for a while now my man.


35.) 10 Oct 2019 09:39:15
Marcus just keeps digging his own grave with his comments. People can clearly see you are a complete homer and call others Homer's when you clearly lack knowledge of nhl and only watch your own team and say everyone else is garbage. Nurse would get ehlers+ he's a 2nd line guy at best.


 

 

20 Sep 2019 18:35:38
Jets need D now that buff is out

Oilers: Russel (can play both sides and block shots) maybe adding a 3rd/4th round pick

Jets: Perreault


Jets get a needed D and oilers get a 3rd line player with potential to make the 2nd line with RnH and neal

Swechamp

1.) 20 Sep 2019 18:44:27
No thanks. They Jets have plenty of 6/ 7 defenseman.


2.) 20 Sep 2019 18:48:05
Not a bad trade in terms of cap hit and term its pretty even, my only objection is both players have modified no trade clauses and my gut tells me Perrault wouldn't want to move his for Edmonton since they're another year away from playoffs.


3.) 21 Sep 2019 02:20:27
Russell isn't great but he's worth more than a overpaid 3rd line player.


4.) 21 Sep 2019 14:01:18
The Oilers should keep their worthless 7/ 8 d-man. At $4 mil per he wouldn't help the Jets at all.


5.) 21 Sep 2019 22:48:54
Worthless 7/ 8 d man haha! Morrissey and pionk Is the only dmen on the jets right now that's better than Russel

Jets top 10 d core last year

And now one of the worst.


 

 

14 Sep 2019 12:06:29
Saw that honka wanted out , how about

Dallas: Honka

Oilers: Benning , 3rd round pick

Swechamp

1.) 14 Sep 2019 16:35:22
So. why do we need Honka? He’s a bottom pairing RHD. We already got Bouchard, Persson, Bear that’ll fight for that spot.


2.) 14 Sep 2019 18:58:49
Benning has more value than Honka and more importantly he has a better chance of handling a second pair role.


 

 

26 Aug 2019 17:32:32
Edm: Puljujärvi , Bear , 3rd round (conditional the 3rd round pick becomes a 1st if Oilers make it to the second round in playoff)

Rangers: Kreider (agrees to resign like stone did Ottawa/vegas trade)

Swechamp

1.) 26 Aug 2019 18:42:20
To much from Edmonton imo.


2.) 26 Aug 2019 21:35:36
Need money going back to maybe work out
Manning or Gagner at the very least would have to be going to NY as well.


3.) 27 Aug 2019 01:38:43
Kreider signed is worth more than a huge bust that can’t walk, an AHL lifer, and a 1st. That is close to what Rangers can get for him unsigned at the deadline.


4.) 27 Aug 2019 04:49:27
Fanatic, example dylan strome, handled badly in Arizona, like 16 points in 48 games over parts of 3 seasons, nearly point per game in 50 some games with chicago. Seguin another example. Sometimes risk worth the reward. Kreider a big risk giving up also but could work out big in favor of ny. Especially with bear, he's a definite nhler, who knows what but can play. If 3rd was a 2nd I'd think be worth the risk. 3rd maybe but 2nd would seal it.


5.) 27 Aug 2019 05:12:06
Kreider isn't worth that risk now but see how the season works out, be pool for a young guy that hasn't worked out for another team would be fair, keep bear outta it.


6.) 28 Aug 2019 01:56:02
Bear is worth a 3rd at best.


7.) 28 Aug 2019 03:37:34
Pretty huge difference in teammates and linemates for Strome in Chicago than Arizona, whose top player had less points than OV had goals. Comparing Puljujarvi to Seguin is an insult to Seguin.


8.) 28 Aug 2019 15:56:01
Wtf did Seguin do in boston? You like 12 years old? Ya, debrincat is a pretty good 2nd year player and perlini we all know is a perennial allstar (sarcasm) such great linemates that made strome look better. Watch some nhl someday fanaticl.


 

 

25 Aug 2019 20:52:33
Oilers: Puljujärvi , samorukov

Toronto: Bracco , 3rd round pick

Swechamp

1.) 25 Aug 2019 22:30:14
As a leaf fan why does Edmonton do this deal? I believe Puli still has the higher end potential.


2.) 25 Aug 2019 22:42:22
Bracco has better AHL stats but idk they’re both similar value prospects.


3.) 26 Aug 2019 03:34:45
Lol. Holland laughs.


4.) 26 Aug 2019 06:12:58
If you change the pick for timashov is it fair?

Pulju and samorukov for bracco and timashov?


Oilers need forwards and Toronto is stacked

Bracco would prob be a 3rd line RW on oilers this bc of their lack of RW.


5.) 26 Aug 2019 07:41:53
“Bracco has better AHL stats”
You’re saying that as if it means something.
Puljujarvi only played 53 games in the AHL.
Bracco has played 125.


6.) 26 Aug 2019 13:13:45
The difference is Bracco never had the opportunity to play in the NHL he’s an elite playmaker he’d need to be in a top 6 position if the leafs traded Nylander he’d probably make the roster as the first line RW beside Mathews so a player who dominates lower competition and never had the opportunity of playing in the nhl for a once highly regarded prospect who was spoon fed opportunity’s and failed. I’ve said this many times Bracco would be a perfect fit in Calgary and the 2nd line RW.


7.) 26 Aug 2019 15:46:07
Bracco is the new Lehtera? “Elite playmaker”.


8.) 26 Aug 2019 18:51:08
hahahahahahhaha
vb genuinely thinks if you’re PPG in the AHL you’re a top 6er in the NHL.
Why didn’t the Leafs sign Daniel Carr to like a 5 million AAV contract and trade Marner for scraps?


9.) 26 Aug 2019 19:22:14
What i never said that? I think Bracco is not everyone that hits a PPG and Bracco truly does have elite playmaking, weak shot and average skater ( also very small ) . Definitely not a bottom 6 player ( because he isn’t physical enough) but he has never had the chance to play in the nhl.

Im not fronting G for real my boy hasn't gotten the chance like yo boy Puljujärvi none of us have any idea how'd he do in the nhl but he has potential to be top 6.

Boys really be out here acting like i think Richard Clune is a top 6 player in the show because he put up 60 in the minors.

Not saying Bracco is worth a lot but his trajectory is rising he could either jump into the NHL and be a star or bust like Puljujärvi ( shot ) so yeah hard to gague value until a chance in the NHL but i'm sticking to the elite hockey sense comment he’s definitely not Lethera and i'm not even hyping him up much just saying he could be a top 6 player.


10.) 26 Aug 2019 20:14:25
Wow. 😂
Does vb have 2 usernames? Talk about lopsided.


11.) 27 Aug 2019 01:51:03
A guy that can’t walk is not worth more than a roster player, which Bracco will likely be next year. Even a fourth liner that plays limited minutes is better than a guy that is going to miss so much of the season in recovery. Puljujärvi sucked before. How much better is he going to be now after a major surgery like that?


 

 

 

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09 Feb 2019 11:48:07
Why doesn't any team sign Tye felhaber?

I don't watch ohl but he's stats looks good?

Swechamp

1.) 09 Feb 2019 15:23:26
I thought dallas did.


2.) 09 Feb 2019 15:25:01
Overagers always put up good stats, it’s what they do in the previous draft years that’s telling. He will probably be signed a bit later, I feel undrafted signings take place a bit later than this in the season most times. A quick google has him linked to the Stars.


 

 

01 Jul 2018 18:27:58
JT to Leafs Done deal

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21 May 2018 00:18:02
After seeing Larsson and oel play together oilers must see the value?

Offer klefbom or nurse and 1st pick plus a young forward yamamoto or benson..

May be much to pay but oel and Larsson has chemistry and Will be a top pair D in nhl

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08 Oct 2019 22:41:01
First of Nylander > ehlers everyday

Why do you keep saying Oilers d is bad?
Jets got a bottom 5 d core right now

I mean even Ottawa got better d lineup than jets got against penguins tonight.

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01 Oct 2019 13:15:56
oilers will wait out the whole pulju thing, if a great offer won't come before 1 december they will let him play a year in Finland


Oilers want more than appleton and i understand them.

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21 Sep 2019 22:48:54
Worthless 7/ 8 d man haha! Morrissey and pionk Is the only dmen on the jets right now that's better than Russel

Jets top 10 d core last year

And now one of the worst.

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11 Sep 2019 18:18:20
Just stop, Finland got the same rules as sweden, and there is ofc testing of roids, a player in sweden was suspended bc of using the wrong pwo.

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09 Sep 2019 20:48:12
Vbb what are you talking about? Haha Ofc they do.

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