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05 Oct 2019 21:09:18
Pullok in trade rumors today...
Puljarvi yesterday..
Ho sang trade request...
This seems like a natural fit from these players in 1 swift easy trade..

Ho Sang & Pullok
for
Pulu & Gagner

Oil need younger but experienced d with the injury..Ho Sang and Pulu both have that entitlement arrogance that their current teams are dealing with by burying them n their attitude, Gagner is a vet that can still help this year and isles have the cap space to take him. He played great with Eberle in the past..

Cap wise seems to work out.

Trade may need Edm to send a minor pick so that Snow can say he's 3 for 3 for fleecing the teams in alberta...

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1.) 05 Oct 2019 23:49:35
Wow, this deal works beautifully

If islanders feel they need a rhd back just to fill in until wilde and dobson are ready they could ask for Caleb Jones or Ethan Bear and in return islanders hand over a pick in 4th round.

Your deal is totally fine. no need for improvement. just a just in case scenerio.


2.) 06 Oct 2019 17:15:56
Jones or Bear are worth a lot more than a 4th to the Oilers right now. They can have Manning or Legesson if they need a D added in. Not Jones or Bear. Risto would be a good D to replace Larsson. I would also trade Pul and Gagner for a Risto myself.


3.) 06 Oct 2019 17:19:24
I think you guys are undervaluing Pulock here. Although I like Gagner in the deal because I think he’s still probably a 35-45 point guy.


4.) 06 Oct 2019 17:36:55
Lmao the Islanders aren’t trading their number 1 dman in Pulock for that crap. He’s worth more then any dman on the oilers.


5.) 06 Oct 2019 18:48:00
Pulock worth more than klefbolm, nurse, larsson or bouchard

Interesting.


6.) 06 Oct 2019 23:03:21
Three of the guys in this deal are non-nhl’ers. Pulock is the only player here that is nhl caliber, and as a top 4 defender he is worth more than what is offered here.


 

 

26 Sep 2019 20:33:42
Montreal Drouin 40% retained

Edm Benning or Chaisson & Puljarrvi


Salary balance, 2 underachievers provided fresh opportunities.

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1.) 27 Sep 2019 01:12:08
I’d rather Drouin then a maybe NHL player and a few AHLers.


 

 

23 Aug 2019 20:28:13
Good old fashioned hockey trade one for one

Canucks & Flames

Boeser for Tkachuk

The change of Crests might help the 2 players and management teams to soften up and get a deal done to sign these 2 prior to season start.

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1.) 23 Aug 2019 20:46:37
Van would definitely add, tkachuk is the better player, more points, better defensively and is physical, not to mention he's already an assistant captain so would guess a better leader. Boeser seems to have trouble keeping healthy his 1st couple seasons. Maybe bad luck or maybe he's fragile.


2.) 23 Aug 2019 20:48:35
As much as I like Boeser and dislike the Flames, Tkuchuck has more value than Boeser.
Boeser apparently wants $7M for 4 years, and I would do that deal in a second if I was Van (Maybe can negotiate down to like $6.75M) but they only have $5M in cap space. I think Tkuchuck will get around $8M, depending on term. Well, I believe Tkuchuck is at least $1M more valuable than Boeser.
And I think those deals would both be about a $500K to $1M overpayments myself but that’s just how these young RFA stars signings are going at this time.


3.) 23 Aug 2019 21:45:38
No from Vancouver. There’s no question that Tkachuk is better value than Boeser, but any Canuck fan will know Boeser’s heart makes him and no go for any trade.

Also, the Canucks will have no issue signing him. As soon as the season starts, Roussel is going on LTIR.


4.) 23 Aug 2019 23:51:37
I don’t know man, I get what you’re saying and all and I’m a big fan of Boesers on and off the ice, but if Treliving was to call up Benning and offer Tkuchuck for Boeser straight up, Benning wouldn't Turn it down. Not sure any GM would turn it down. Tkuchuck has heart too and you would love him on your team, And I can say that with no bias because I efin hate the kid. Lol.


5.) 24 Aug 2019 19:21:27
Vancouver definitely adds. i'm not trying to sound biased cause i really like boeser and his style but Tkachuk is better


 

 

07 Aug 2019 05:09:45
Edm Puljarrvi

Van unprotected 1st

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1.) 07 Aug 2019 06:45:17
Pulj has said that if he doesn’t get traded, he isn’t playing. No way IN HELL he gets a first, and definitely not from Van.


2.) 07 Aug 2019 07:16:22
What is this.


3.) 07 Aug 2019 09:38:35
Send him to OTT for Pageau or DET for Cholowski


4.) 07 Aug 2019 12:00:46
Vertius nah bc they have away their first to tampa for free.


5.) 07 Aug 2019 13:00:17
Jesse p has hip issues, hasn't olperformed and is bichin about not playing. Worth a 3rd at best.


6.) 07 Aug 2019 15:01:53
Lol so many things wrong with this. Nucks trades their 1st to Tampa and this trade is potentially Alex Lafranier who is the best QMJHL prospect since Crosby for a probable bust.


7.) 07 Aug 2019 22:54:57
There is a big assumption here as mentioned . His hips. He needs to play in Europe to prove he can still play before any trade is even talked about. If he struggles due to his hips, THEN cue 3rd round pick rumors.

Assuming he is 100% he won't be traded for 4th liner no namers / 3rd rounder. In order for the trade to go. It has to be a similar player ( singular, not 3 no names) who has potential for top 6 that's struggling (eg Drouin) or an unprotected first with a team that is almost guaranteed to be in the draft lotto so as to at least have a small % chance to pick in the top 3 - 4.

Silly trades involving non 1st round picks, handful of AHL hopefuls won't be considered by that new GM Edm has as he's made up his mind that he can go play in Europe and no bargain basement liquidations will happen.

Van is the ideal place, Almost guaranteed a lotto pick. Already Has a borderline busted Finn who needs a fellow Finn buddy to chum with. Van likes their Euro's.


8.) 07 Aug 2019 23:27:51
Why would Detroit trade Cholowski for him? Cholowski is a much better prospect.


9.) 08 Aug 2019 02:52:14
Pulj has no value not because of his hip, but because of the ultimatum he gave EDM. He told them that unless he was traded, he was going back to Finland, all the GM’s in the league know this, so no Gm in the league is going to pay up for Pulj when they know EDM isn’t going to have him either if he isn’t traded.

And, to show how little you really know. Van can’t trade this years or next years 1st to EDM because of the Miller trade. Until we decide which first TB is getting, both of them are essentially frozen. So no, Vancouver isn’t the ‘ideal’ location, not unless Holland is willing to take a first 3 years from now which we all know he ain’t.


10.) 08 Aug 2019 08:23:12
@VB: 100% wrong. There is no chance TB gets a shot at Lafreniere with VANs pick. Condition is, if it's a 2020 lottery pick, VAN keeps it. If at all, TB could potentially get a shot at whoever gets picked first in 2021 (albeit highly unlikely) .


11.) 08 Aug 2019 14:42:23
What are you talking about I said this trade is? Not the Tampa Trade please read.


12.) 09 Aug 2019 06:28:47
"Nucks trades their 1st to Tampa and this trade is potentially Alex Lafranier"

"this" can be read and interpreted both ways. You should be more clear and precise with your language ;)


13.) 09 Aug 2019 11:59:33
Yah I’ll give you that since English isn’t your 1st language.


14.) 10 Aug 2019 06:26:41
Um, you were the one that wasn't precise with his language, even though it's your first language - so nothing you "could give me" here.

Use sentences that are clear and cannot be interpreted two ways and things like this won't happen. 100% on you, pal.


 

 

06 Jul 2019 03:35:46
It's RFA season

Marner to Colorado 11.5 M

Tkachuk St Louis 9M

Point Columbus 11 M

Provorov Edm 4M

Laine Van 7M

Rantenen ...9M ..matched by Colorado

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1.) 06 Jul 2019 04:28:29
I'd think every team matches except point and tkachuk.


2.) 06 Jul 2019 04:41:54
LOL at Provonov at 4 million he’ll probably get around Aho’s contract. Same with Laine.


3.) 06 Jul 2019 05:30:53
Definitely agree with vbb on that. Philly would easily match.


4.) 06 Jul 2019 06:12:17
Yeah the provorov deal is the easiest of all to match.


5.) 06 Jul 2019 07:10:06
Conroy said tkachuk isn't signing any offer sheets so that's good


6.) 06 Jul 2019 07:40:52
Tampa would probably match point at 11 tbh, and if not that’s probably 4 lottery picks. I don’t seem him signing an offer sheet for what it’s worth, he already turned down Montreal.


7.) 06 Jul 2019 09:34:18
Point turned down an Offer Sheet from MTL, why would he sign one with CBJ now?
Also Provorov going to get more, although VB saying he'll get Aho money is fairly insane, too.


8.) 06 Jul 2019 11:29:25
Maybe Montreal only offered 5 million to point? It’s pretty stupid to infer that because he declined 1 offer he wouldn’t sign another. Montreal probably low balled him.


9.) 06 Jul 2019 14:17:40
No point came out and said MTL offered a good contract but I don’t want to leave Tampa.


10.) 06 Jul 2019 16:08:28
VB at worst Montreal offered Point what they gave Aho. It wouldn’t make sense for them to go lower, when they realized they weren’t going to get Point they pivoted to Aho.


11.) 06 Jul 2019 17:21:35
@jbs So now that you can see the difference of how two players acted when approached with an offer sheet could you now admit that aho was at least slightly intrigued by playing in Montreal lol.


12.) 07 Jul 2019 02:21:32
Shoots
Every team could match but Toronto. they don't have the cap space to match 11M.


13.) 07 Jul 2019 03:54:29
Never said he wasn’t intrigued, but the deal he accepted screamed he was just trying to hurry it up with Carolina and says nothing about him trying to get out of Carolina by any means possible. Not to mention maybe Point would have accepted the same deal knowing Tampa would accept, Montreal got the feeling they wouldn’t get Point maybe Point would only accept something he knew Tampa would match while Montreal was really banking on that front loaded bonus structure with Carolina.


14.) 07 Jul 2019 06:31:24
IVe actually been hearing over the last few days that Tom dundon told some player agents from the team that he wouldn't be giving out any signing bonus on contracts so there is that too. I haven't really took the time to verify this but I have read or heard about it a few times since the offer sheet. maybe it's just another rumour but it is picking up a little steam In the ole mill.


15.) 07 Jul 2019 08:04:49
Thanks, jbs delivering the basic logic VB apparently wasn't able to grasp. So much for "stupid", hihi.


16.) 08 Jul 2019 18:06:14
Toronto has the ability to match virtually any offer sheet put towards Marner. If there was even the slightest doubt about Toronto’s financial position, Marner would have been OS’d already.


17.) 08 Jul 2019 18:16:25
This debate is pointless. Edmonton needs Draisaitl a lot more than they need Marner.


 

 

 

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20 Oct 2019 17:37:49
Big Pass from Edmonton.
Taylor Hall was traded from Edmonton for many reasons. Not sure why Elliot is hinting at Hall back to Edm. perhaps for ratings.

The only way I can see Hall back to edm is an undo button on Larsson with NJ retaining 2M of Hall's salary to get him as a rental before he does his UFA hold out for the highest bidder. If he can show the organization and the fan base that he has grown up and can be a team player in his rental period, then perhaps a UFA offer for a longer deal can be discussed. No way Edmonton commits long term or commits this level of assets towards Hall until he shows them the reasons he was swooshed out are in the past and he's matured.

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20 Oct 2019 17:25:11
NJ takes this in a milli second because there is no doubt Hall is bolting in Free agency.
Rental type trade anticipating him holding out for the highest bidder come UFA time would be a smarter trade than burning these assets and seeing him walk. He'll be looking for Marner money no doubt. No hometown discounts for this boy.

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18 Oct 2019 03:12:07
That's a lot for a Rental player.

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08 Oct 2019 20:47:14
Biased towards the Habs.

Edmonton has a lot of good young up and coming goaltenders in the system already. More than they need, so no young tenders likely in any deal.

More realistic trade would look more like:

Puljarrvi Gagner Persson

Drouin + 5th.

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08 Oct 2019 20:37:50
Trade talent wise would work if Jones, Legasson or Samkarov were in the mix instead of Bear.

Cap wise, Oilers I don't' think have the cap space to do this unless there was 1M retention by Winnipeg, or Manning was traded instead of Bear.

Both teams are suffering from thin D's right now, so 2 dmen out of Edm, 0 back seems a little unlikely at this time. Russel would really help the Jets thin D for sure and Ehlers would help Edm's forward lines. But trade with Bear favors Winnipeg too heavily and the cap problem exists.

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