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19 Sep 2018 23:23:32
Tor - C/ RW William Nylander, D Andrew Nielsen

VGK- D Colin Miller, D Nicolas Hague

If the leafs and Nylander can’t come to terms (I do believe they will fairly soon), then maybe they move on to address other areas

Leafs have plenty of capable wingers to play along side Matthews and Marleau, so kapanen, Leivo or Johnsson move up.

Leafs get a really good 2 way RHD, soon to be 26 years old, 4 years at $3.8 million, who already has connections to Kyle Dubas. They also get a real good LHD prospect.

Vegas has the cap space to pay Nylander and their RW depth is awful. afternoon reilly Smoth, it goes alex Tuch and Ryan Reeves. This pushes tuch to 3 and reeves to 4 where they should be. Nielsen is a giybthat could be a decent NHL Dman eventually but still a young project for sure. Just adds to their depth because they’re losing 2 D in the deal.

Leafs give up the best player but that salary of miller vs what Nylander wants is valuable on its own. Also a D core of

Rielly Miller
Gardiner Zaitsev
Dermott Ozhiganov
Hainsey

All of a sudden looks pretty solid while still maintaining one of the best toon 9 forward groups in the league of

Marleau Matthews Kapanen
Hyman Tavares Marner
Johnson Kadri Leivo.

Unbiased Jim

1.) 19 Sep 2018 23:48:34
top 6 doesn't look that great without nylander. until kapanen can finish he's a 3rd liner. i would love to see conner brown get a shot at the top line, guy is under rated. and there's a reason he is above leivo on the depth chart.

seeing some lines at the first pre season game means very little to me. things will shake out a lot differently.

as far as the trade goes i would take miller in a heartbeat.


2.) 20 Sep 2018 00:47:27
Very well thought out imo, but I also doubt Nylander is going to be moved.

I don’t see how he/ his agent can seriously expect to get anything over $7mln when Pasta is better and only makes $6.7 mln or whatever and I don’t see how the leafs think they can get him signed to less than $6mln given other comparables. Doesn’t seem like they can be that far apart.


3.) 20 Sep 2018 02:58:06
What kind of a joke is this proposal? If you trade Nylander to Vegas, you better get William Karlsson back in return.


4.) 20 Sep 2018 04:41:15
I agree I think he gets signed, I've said that all along he will get 6-8 years around $6.5 mill. Just so many people talking trade now and the obvious move is for a RHD. I think miller is the right balance for Rielly. Good core age too. Hague if he keeps progressing could take dermotts spot on third pair next year when dermott takes Gardiners spot on 2nd pair, to save more cap again.

Just a thought. I don’t want to trade Nylander, but I like this option a lot better than Subban at $9 mill or Stephen Johns at any price lol which were previously suggested.


5.) 20 Sep 2018 06:54:54
Good post jim 😃.


6.) 20 Sep 2018 12:36:49
Pretty good trade. I like Nylander and Miller. Makes sense for both teams, Nylander could be great in Vegas and they can afford him. Is losing Miller creating too much a hole in Vegas D tho? They have a good tip six right now with the two big additions this summer don't they?
Also, you can't add Johnson and Lievo into "best top 9 in the league". You can say a great top 7 tho. Haha.


7.) 20 Sep 2018 12:42:15
@NylanderMagic. I post to get responses, so I won’t be rude about your response, but explain then why you feel the leafs need to take back a Centreman who would be either 3rd or 4th best on the team rather than a RHD who would immediately be your best?


8.) 20 Sep 2018 12:53:03
@yupp, I said still “one of the best top 9s” not “the best”, amd having tavares, matthews, marner, Kadri and Marleau on top 3 lines, plus could have put Brown instead of Leivo, forgot all about him and he’s scored 20, don’t know many teams that can roll out a better 9 to be honest.

Also I did feel it could leave a bit of a hole in Vegas D, but that’s what it would take to get a player like Nylander. Their team is good but not extremely deep in any position yet, so to get a RW, which is their worst position, it’s going to leave somewhere else noticeably weaker unfortunately.


9.) 20 Sep 2018 14:04:36
The value seems about right. It does leave a hole in the Vegas defense though like yupp said. I agree with ovie that Brown deserves to be moved up but I don’t think Kapanen has had much of a chance playing with some talent either. I bellieve Babcock has said himself that Brown seems to get the shaft often because of the depth up front.


10.) 20 Sep 2018 17:01:45
I like it, althoigh, still seems slightly underwhelming of a return, just because of Willys youth compared to Millers. maybe an added pick like a 2nd and Toronto adds in a guy like Freddy Gauthier? Idk.

I don't mind this tho. Would (obv) prefer to hang onto willly, as most would.


11.) 20 Sep 2018 17:06:41
I think brown gets relegated to lower lines, not because of skill, but because he’s so responsible and so versatile that you never have to worry about who he's going to play with or how many minutes he gets, he’s always going to just do his job.


12.) 20 Sep 2018 17:08:02
Good post, interesting trade. Props Jimmy boy!


13.) 20 Sep 2018 22:33:02
jim i whole heartedy agree brown is a gem because he just does his job. he's a really low rent toews in my eyes, love watching him play.

jims just on point with this.


14.) 21 Sep 2018 05:49:32
Brown was actually taught responsible play by his dad, Dan. He was an amazing minor league coach and has appenrently been offered jobs to coach junior but says he gets to be a hockey dad at the highest level and watch his son play for the hometown leafs every night. Doesn’t want to give that up.

Dan Brown had a 10 or 11 year old Select team and won the championship, they offered him the rep A team and he just took his select team to A, won the chanpionship, was offered a AAA team and took his same guys mostly, won it all a few times in a row before a bunch of his guys went to the OHL at 16. In the 2012 Draft when the leafs took Brown in the 6th round, 6 or 7 (not sure exactly) players that dan had coached all the way up went in the draft that year including Scott Laughton in the first round to Philly and Jake Paterson, their goalie, to Detroit in the 2nd or 3rd round. That’s extremely impressive and shows why Brown plays the game the way he does. My dad has actually known Laughtons grandfather for decades and he told us that.


 

 

05 Sep 2018 06:15:32
Tor - D Jake Gardiner (1yr x 4.05 mill), 2019 1st, 2020 3rd, F Jeremy Bracco

Min - D Jonas Brodin (3yrsx $4.16mill)

Gardiner is the leafs 2nd LHD behind Rielly. He has this season left and is due a raise. If he would take $5.25-5.5 mill it’s possible he could fit, however he may want to cash in for more after a few good seasons and he still isn’t exactly the Defensive player we need. Brodin is much more rounded player, a bit younger and 2 more years of cost certainty which is very important going forward in Toronto.

Minnesota gets a good puck moving LHD to take Brodins spot in the lineup. They’re also Gardiners hometown team so may be able to resign him a little cheaper than other teams. They get a mid to late 1st rounder, a 3rd rounder and a small but very skilled prospect who is stuck behind a lot of talent in Toronto. The Wild have a decent team but with Suter (33) Staal (33) Parise (34) and Koivu (35), stocking some younger assets doesn’t hurt.

Unbiased Jim

1.) 05 Sep 2018 06:25:42
Interesting if wild can sign Gardiner after the year.


2.) 05 Sep 2018 07:08:28
Not saying it’s the perfect move for Minnesota because Gardiner is going to be a UFA but is Brodin worth that?


3.) 05 Sep 2018 13:43:14
@ebs, I get what you’re saying but leafs are getting a player 3 years younger with 3 years term left. I feel like the cost certainty alone is worth a premium. Also we would be asking the Wild to take a player 3 years older with only a year left on his contract at a similar cap hit. They don’t need to make this change right now and if you don’t make it worth their while, they just won’t. A late first, a 3rd and Bracco I would be willing to sacrifice to make our D stronger and be able to keep our forward group together for 2 extra years cap wise. Others may not be so willing, but I feel it’s what it could take.


4.) 05 Sep 2018 15:47:42
And @mcjesus, minny could sign him the day the trade is made. They could have a 5 x $6mill extension ready to maximize their return.


5.) 05 Sep 2018 17:15:48
as a leafs fan I would rather trade gardiner for a better dman than brodin if he is traded at all. and personally I'm not sure brodin is worth a 1st,3rd and bracco in the first place. he has a career, 0.247 ppg and a career high of 25 points with 21 points last year. is he a good dman? Sure, but i'd rather put our pieces into a better dman. I understand the value of him being 3 yrs younger and 3 years term (nice good contract i will admit) but I definitely would rather have one year of gardiner+1st+3rd+bracco than brodin.

hope that wasn't too biased haha.


6.) 05 Sep 2018 19:38:38
@Big Z. That’s fair. I wasn’t worried at all about his career points per game or his pt total last year for 2 reasons. 1 is that no one on minny (forwards included) ever put up big numbers, I think mid 60s leads their team every year. Secondly, we will get plenty of offense from our forwards (arguably the best top 9 in the league), Rielly and Dermott and hopefully zaitsev again on the backend. I’m more concerned with the other half of the game that has plagued us for years.


7.) 06 Sep 2018 04:22:43
Think brodin and Gardiner would be a very nice pair but got to give one up for the other, its trading offensive de for defensive de which I'd agree Toronto would be better off for.


 

 

02 Aug 2018 23:55:48
Confirmed Trade

Buffalo gets Jeff Skinner

Canes get Cliff Pu, 2nd, 3rd And 6th

Like this deal a lot for sabres. No top prospect or 1st rounder involved and add a guy who is only 25 and had 37 goals 2 years ago, 79 in last 3 seasons. Staying healthy will obviously be the key.

Unbiased Jim

1.) 03 Aug 2018 04:57:07
Makes me wonder why Edmonton wouldn’t have tried really hard to make this work (maybe they did) I know cap space is an issue but at that price I’m shocked. That’s probably an equivilent of benson, 2nd, 3rd ans 6th. And that was trading within the conference. Being out west, certainly wouldn't cost more, maybe even a bit less. Don’t know their exact cap situation but for a chance to add skinner so cheap, could they not have given another asset to dump a salary, either to Carolina in this deal or elsewhere to make room?!


2.) 03 Aug 2018 04:59:30
Yup. Nice move by Buffalo. If he can stay away from concussions, this should work out great for Buffalo.


3.) 03 Aug 2018 14:36:50
Ya the oilers have about $5M in space right now and have to sign Nurse with that. No room at all I make a deal with no money going out for Skinner. Good suggestion tho lol.


4.) 03 Aug 2018 16:20:21
Yeah. I was just wondering if there was a way to send like Sekera back there (lived there a long time, might have connections there still) along with another asset in the deal. Because even another pick added into it doesn’t seem like a ton. I just think skinner would be a great fit for mcdavid, can score and is one of the best skaters in the league. I had a trade proposal a while ago of Ethan Bear and their 1st for him (before it was a 10th overal)


5.) 04 Aug 2018 00:08:04
I would have earlier asked Sekera is he would waive his no trade to go back to Carolina. And hen try to do something around Sekera/ Puljujarvi for Faulk/ Skinner. And extend Skinner after the season
But that was before we resigned some players and what not. Now it wouldn't have worked out.


6.) 04 Aug 2018 19:54:06
i will never understand why people put unbelievable for confirmed trades.


 

 

12 Jul 2018 21:50:13
Hawks traded Hossa’s contract to Arizona.

Hawks now have $8.5mill cap space for this season.

Have been talking to habs about paccioretty (1yr $4.5 mill)

And hurricanes about Skinner (1 yr $5.75 mill)

See which way they go.

Unbiased Jim

1.) 12 Jul 2018 22:06:43
Don’t forget Panarin apparently he wants to return.


2.) 12 Jul 2018 22:46:35
I could see Panarin. I think he was upset when they traded him. Get back on his old line and light it up.


3.) 13 Jul 2018 13:34:35
i'd love to see skinner and/ or panarin (again) in a chicago jersey.


4.) 14 Jul 2018 07:37:10
Panarin won't fit in their cap plans. Yes, they have 8.5m space but they need to sign at least 3 more F and 1 more D.


5.) 14 Jul 2018 16:02:04
They’d need to get creative but it could work.


 

 

22 Jun 2018 19:18:12
Craig Anderson and Cam Talbot both ask for trades apparently. I expected Anderson, Talbot caught me off guard. Lou could try to get him in NYI if the price is right.

Unbiased Jim

1.) 22 Jun 2018 21:21:51
Actually since it says Jeff Skinner is close to being moved, Oilers should try to send talbot there in a deal to land a scoring winger. Talbot has a 10 team no trade list, but if he wants to be traded, might only be a cpl teams needing a starter. Could have to stray from his original list.


2.) 22 Jun 2018 21:31:27
Where do you read this stuff? Or does it come off the top of your head.


3.) 22 Jun 2018 21:32:21
I heard Talbot rumours were false.


4.) 22 Jun 2018 23:46:55
Dave Pagnotta is the one that says “oilers are continuing to entertain trade talks involving Talbot, and things are escalating”

Lots of others have said that chiarelli has asked for his 10 team trade list. Simply type ‘Cam Talbot’ into search bar on twitter, it’s not difficult, I didn’t make it up lol sort through the reliable sources and the garbage and there’s atleast some fairly connected writers talking about it.


5.) 23 Jun 2018 19:06:47
So the team asking for a ten team trade list doesn't mean the player asked for a trade.
Talbot hasn't asked for a trade. Very very false.
Anderson has. That's understandable.


 

 

 

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24 Sep 2018 20:42:02
Bodogs 2018/ 19 Hart Trophy odds

Mcdavid 10/3
Crosby 13/2
Matthews 10 1
Ovechkin 10/1
Tavares 10/1
Hall 15/1
Kucherov 15/1
Mackinnon 15/1
Scheifele 15/1.

Unbiased Jim

 

 

22 Sep 2018 16:21:12
What’s anyone’s feelings about the Domi suspension?

Personally, I think it’s not nearly enough. When Clarkson jumper the boards in preseasOn to fight Scott, he was given 10 games and that’s the rule, I have no problem with it. But they let him play preseason and then suspended him to start the regular season so he actually lost money and the games he lost meant something.

Now suspending Domi for only preseason doesn’t seem right. The games mean nothing, he doesn’t lose any pay, and he probably wouldn’t play all of them anyway. It’s like MLB having to suspend a pitcher for 6 games so he atleast misses a start.

This isn’t a Habs hating thing, because Domi has done this punching an unsuspecting player when he was in Arizona too and I called him out for it then, his dad did this garbage a cpl Times as a leaf and I hated it, and I openly spoke about the stupidity of Kadris hit in the playoffs and said he deserved what he got suspension wise.

This was absolute garbage. Ekblad couldn’t win. I’d he drops his gloves and kicks Domis ass, he beat up a little guy, if he gets hurt fighting in his first preseason game he gets in trouble from his own team. He’s a $7.5 million dollar AllStar Dman, guaranteed a top pair spot who has had concussion problems. What could he ever gain from fighting on his first preseason game? That was the height of cowardness and shows zero respect for a fellow player. He should have had a lot harsher penalty. If trying to lay a check, and clipping a guys head is looked at as dirty, then there is no more blatant attack on a players head than this.

Unbiased Jim

1.) 22 Sep 2018 16:59:01
2 things could have happened to avoid this situation number 1 is if it's so we'll known about ekblads concussion history that you think domi should have known this then shouldn't the refs have known as we'll and steped in much earlier? Number 2 Is shouldn't Ekblad have protected himself a little better then he did and shouldn't he start playing a little bit more of a position defence instead of a slash and cross check game which he is slowly becoming one of the best in the league at and yes I have talked before about before this incident. He's probably 7 inches taller and 40 lbs heavier then domi in theory he should have been able to just wrestle him or pin him against the boards till the refs saved him. if you play a dirty game you can expect it thrown back at you. I know it's preseason and he didn't have much to gain from fighting but his stick work was in mid season form and I'm glad he got socked tbh.


2.) 22 Sep 2018 17:13:05
It was still stupid on domi part he should know by now when you get slashed your suppose to dive and draw a penalty in today's game. This is the only era in the history of the game when two players are locked together that throwing a punch is considered a cheap shot. ekblad should have just dropped his gloves whether he wanted to or not or had anything to gain or not it doesn't matter. You can't just expect to play mean and dirty when it benefits you if your going to pull that crap game in and game out you should be expecting to get clocked occasionally. Andrew shaw gets his cheap shots and he hasn't turtled from anyone yet I watched sheldon souray drop his gloves a few games after having a serious wrist surgery. Gary Roberts fought with a broken neck. It makes me sick that some guys continue to play and be among the dirtiest players in the league but when the time comes to face the music they say no that's ok I have had concussions In The past lol shea weber is another example he uses the cross check a little more often then he should but he will at least back it up if someone challenges him. It was as funny a thing I have ever saw cause it looked like a college student being bullied by a kid in kindergarten.


3.) 22 Sep 2018 17:13:22
I'll keep it short. didn't like it. wasnt a good first impression.
And like you say Jim. doesn't really hurt Domi at all. miss preseason. so what. however, it hurts his new teammates, . , coaches ect, with line chemistry, ect. .


4.) 22 Sep 2018 19:39:04
I will add this to it for those who may not get the point I'm trying to make if domi did the same to kadri I'd feel the same if he did it to mattgews marner nylander Kapenen reily gardiner etc I wouldn't. Some players deserve it when they decide to play like this. And I'm not saying kadri would have handled it the same way as Ekblad cause I think kadri actually drops the gloves there. To allow the dirty player to do what he wants and not have to suffer any consequence is what's going to ruin this game. and jim a punch to the face is not why the league has a concussion problem. Eventually if players are not allowed to police themselves we will have a league with zero fighting zero hitting and guys just skating around and slashing ankles.


5.) 22 Sep 2018 19:41:19
I watched the game, and I’m not saying Ekblad had it coming but Doni was clearly tired of the ankle slashes handed out by Ekblad. Ekblad was playing dirty, if you’re going to play with that edge you got to stand up for yourself and don’t go crying to refs when the guy wants a scrap. That being said I still think domi should’ve kept himself in check and probably should’ve gotten at least a game or 2 of regular season action.


6.) 22 Sep 2018 20:23:57
Yeah no doubt. Domi should not have done it but I bet you the 20 guys on the habs bench were happy that he did.


7.) 22 Sep 2018 22:34:54
I only saw the replay but I thought a delayed penalty was coming to Montreal which is why Ekblad avoided the situation. No offence habby but you would defend anything the habs players, management or coaches do.


8.) 22 Sep 2018 23:00:34
Ekblad is one of the dirtiest players? Lol okay. And like you said, Weber does the same thing, so if he slashed Kadri and Kadri suckered him, I don’t believe for a second you would feel like Weber deserved it and all is good. Unless it happens, we will never know, but I find that extremely hard to believe.

But for domi to be the ‘police’ out there is a joke. He has jumped multiple players before, I can’t remember him squaring off and having a real fight when both are prepared. He’s the guy that scored a goal in the world juniors and then did a captain Morgan celebration by the oppositions bench. In a tournament where half the teams have had to borrow sticks from the US and Canada lol and did a knee slide fist pump goal celly after scoring an empty netter in junior too. This guy has never been one of the guys that have the respect to be considered the police of the game. He’s one of the rats that the other players in the league want looked after. Between cheapshots and showboating, he will pay a price eventually, but especially if they feel the league doesn’t punish him at all.


9.) 22 Sep 2018 23:21:04
I totally agree that if a guy makes a dirty play then he better be dropping the gloves to back it up. When it’s a skill player you hope it’s a skill player/ someone in his fight class to fight him, it doesn’t always work out that way though. But a slash is minor and crosschecks are so common for D. Take a good clean run at him your next shift! As far as protecting yourself, Ekblad was probably okay with taking the gloved jabs and didn’t expect Domi to drop them and clock him. I agree that the suspension makes no sense being that there preseason games.


10.) 23 Sep 2018 00:04:21
I understand Domi and the rest might have been fed up with some stuff. But a complete cheap shot bare nuckle to the face is such a douchebag move. Total cheap shot. Was also brutal for Drouin to defend the cheap shot.
Could even see that Tie Domi did look impressed and I'd be embarrassed if I was him.


11.) 23 Sep 2018 02:08:11
We'll he is a domi so we have to expect some stupidity on times I mean it's in his blood. and yes jim please watch Ekblad carefully when he plays the leafs again I bet he slashes the most in that game as we'll. it would not happen in webers case cause kadri would be man handled into submission before that could happen. And before you say Ekblad had no reason to fight he didn't mind dropping the gloves with deslauriers last year after dealauriers stood up for hudon after he took a intentional elbow to the head from Ekblad he had those same concussion issues then you know. i honestly think he didn't fight because he was afraid he would lose as he is a hortible fighter for his size.


12.) 23 Sep 2018 02:12:47
A lot of people talk about how big and physical he is but he can't fight he doesn't hit much at all it's completely based on his stick work and punching people in the face ( glove on of course) he is dirty and if you really watch him you will see it and you don't have to come on here after and say I was right. Lol.


13.) 23 Sep 2018 02:15:57
And then he talks about domi being stupid and then follows it with scores will be settled at a latter date lol. I mean even when everyone knew chara was going to try and kill pacioretty the next time they played he didn't go as far as to say that lol.


14.) 23 Sep 2018 02:28:01
Jim what are you talking about he hasn't had a fight where both players squared off? Lol go to drop your gloves and watch his fights I bet you there isn't one there where both players were not ready to go or he wasn't sticking up for a teammate.


15.) 23 Sep 2018 07:42:27
Habby are you one of the people calling for refs to put their whistles away too? You can’t get mad at refs when they call those small stick work infractions and also say Domi had no choice but to sock him. Obviously the refs didn’t see anything Ekblad did as enough out of the ordinary to make a call, and the punch wouldn’t be justified anyway. As far as I’m concerned when the other guy is refusing to drop and trying to skate away that’s the end of it. I don’t even think Ekblad saw Domis glove come off before he was hit in the face. It’s disgusting. Push, shove, w/ e but the punch was too far for preseason ankle taps. I hate the fact he got rewarded with extra vacation too got rewarded more than punished.


16.) 23 Sep 2018 13:02:04
All I'm saying is when a player plays the style that Ekblad does he should either fight when challenged or expect to get clocked occasionally. And I will say this the 5 pre season games is a bigger punishment to domi and the habs then the 1 or 2 regular season games he would have got.


17.) 23 Sep 2018 13:05:22
And I didn't say domi never had a choice. He should have just dove every time he got ankle smacked right? i mean this is the way the game is now.


18.) 23 Sep 2018 14:08:36
Plus jim we saw first hand last year what happens when kadri tries to cheap shot weber.


19.) 23 Sep 2018 16:08:25
If you have to dive then the “infraction” isn’t enough for a call anyway haha you’re complaining about someone playing the game in a style you don’t like, that has been deemed acceptable, and say getting punched in the face while trying to disengage was justified? That’s ridiculous outside hockey that’s assault. As for the suspeslnsion this is much easier than 1-2 regular season games. Domi isn’t actually losing anything. It’s literally a reward he doesn’t have to work for no pay now. He’s not fighting for a spot. He’s playing maybe 2 if those games anyway. He’s not losing any money and it has no effect on the Habs standings I don’t know how it can get much easier. They should almost make him PLAY those games if they want to punish him.


20.) 23 Sep 2018 19:09:07
What would he lose in money anyway 30000? Big whoop. And if someone is kicking you in the ankles and you punch them in the face to make them stop outside of hockey that's not assault it's self defence a broken ankle is more serious then a broken nose. Players don't have to miss time with a broken nose they can just put on a cáge. Did you ever try skating with a broken ankle? Trust me it's not fun. All I'm saying is players who play on the edge and are playing a dirt style should drop the gloves when challenged if not they should change the style they play. ekblad has enough skill he doesn't have to use the stick as much as he do but that's the game he chooses to play and if he continues to play that way then he's got to man up. so now you know how I feel you can stop trying to convince me differently cause I don't want to watch ballet on ice I want fights and lots of em.


21.) 24 Sep 2018 04:52:15
Haha wow is all I can say. I’m not saying take fights out I think that’s dumb. Almost as dumb as forcing players to fight that don’t want to. If a guy is trying to walk away from you and you sucker punch them in the face, ya that’s assault. Could be aggravated, still assault. If the refs aren’t going to call it Ekblad has every right to play that way. Domi has every right to do it back. Ekblad made it clear he had no intention to engage, that's the problem I have with this. This is essentially a less serious Bertuzzi or Brashear incident. A lot less serious but same vein in attacking someone who is unsuspecting and attempting to disengage completely. And again, punishment was actually beneficial to Domi, in no way a punishment. Not to mention Ekblad is smart not to fight Ekblad for Domi is a terrible trade off for Florida.


22.) 24 Sep 2018 10:10:32
Ekblad was afraid to fight because he sucks at it and after taking a beating from luke glendenning he was already too embarrassed to lose another one to a much smaller player lol.


23.) 24 Sep 2018 14:15:04
You really like domi huh? Lol

Ekblad plays like just about any other big Dman. Weber does the same thing like you said, Jordie Benn cross checks and slashes guys, Roman polak did it as a leaf, and every other team has someone that does it. But guys don’t get bareknuckle sucker punched on a nightly basis.

Next, how would Domi only lose $30k? Do you think they were suspending him for 2 and half periods? At his contract, that would have been just under $250k out of his pocket which would have sent a bit of a msg.

Refs didn’t think any of it was worth 2 min, but you feel it was enough to justify that? Refs must be picking on the habs again already. Early excuse for the season.

You’re entitled to your opinion on it, I’m not going to make it a big argument like other times which is why I let you rant on your own for a cpl days thinking it would stop lol but as long as you remember what you call deserved and justified if a Hab ever receives a cheap shot, especially targeting his head. Makes sure you stick to the same side of the argument and if Drouin is eating through a straw for a few months because he slashed someone, I hope you can admit he deserved it and you wish he got it worse lol.


24.) 24 Sep 2018 16:45:49
Now with Domi on the team, between him and Shaw we will be playing a lot on the PK. Good tanking strategy.


25.) 24 Sep 2018 18:57:16
And I don’t how many, if any, hockey fights you were in in your life. Between minor hockey, high school, college and junior, I had a good amount. Was not a ‘fighter’ and was definitely not a big guy, but could stand up for myself. In saying that, if even once I punched or jumped an unsuspecting player, I would never live it down. I would hear about it nonstop from my dad, brothers, teammates and opponents. And that’s if I did it once, not making a habit out of it. If he can do that and feel proud of himself as the ‘police’ of the game, then that’s up to him. But anyone who has actually played the game don’t respect people like that.


26.) 24 Sep 2018 20:08:09
You think jordie benn shea weber or roman polak don't drop the gloves there with max domi in the same situation jim? Of course they do don't try and make this a love story about me and domi it's not that I love domi so much he hasn't been here long enough to grow on me yet and seeing who is father is he may never be a favourite of mine. it's just I really can't stand players like Ekblad. i'm not going to get into who had the better hockey career jim but I fought several players who turned pro and every league and team I played on hated guys who turtled and or played dirty and then looked to the refs for help when someone faced them. Was it in North America where you played hockey?


27.) 24 Sep 2018 20:11:06
I will also add jim Ekblads stick work is far and above more then the 3 guys you mentioned probably more then all 3 combined.


28.) 24 Sep 2018 20:13:51
And domi would not have been suspended for 5 regular season games anyone who has ever watched hockey should know that. He would have got 1 or 2 games at the most so I don't know how your getting 250k unless domi makes like 15 million a year.


29.) 24 Sep 2018 20:21:34
My point is pretty simple if you want to be the guy who has to rely on slashing and cross checking to do your job then be prepared to man up when challenged especially when it's against a guy half your size. If you guys don't want to agree with that then we are on totally different wave lengths and we are only wasting space on this thread arguing about it. I mean the guy dropped his hands and looked around for the refs I bet they were thinking to themselves just drop the gloves and kick his butt man lol. Maybe that's why they took so long to step in.


30.) 24 Sep 2018 20:31:54
If Ekblad saying he doesn’t want to fight means “he knew he would lose”, then why wouldn’t domi leave it at that. That would show he challenged him and Ekblad didn’t and he can make him look like the wimp you think he is for backing down from a smaller guy. But the second you sucker a guy that isn’t ready and call it a win in a fight, it tells me he's the coward, not the guy that says I’m not fighting in September. It’s like Tyson punching a guy during a weigh in and then saying he had to because he didn’t think the guy would show up to the real fight lol so dumb.


31.) 24 Sep 2018 21:32:00
And watch max Domi/ tanner Pearson on YouTube. Max cross checks him to the ice (fine) then when he’s on his knees, cross checks him in the neck, then when they get up, goes at him and starts throwing upper cuts barehand before Pearson gets a chance to drop his gloves. He has a history of this garbage so saying Ekblad was mean to him for a cpl whacks and crosscheck is laughable. It’s easy to win fights when no one is expecting it. He one punched Kesler and knocked him out which kesler was willing to fight and was ready, but the ref is holding the sleeve of keslers left are as domi throws the right lol not domis fault but his one good KO he had the ref holding his opponents blocking arm down lol.


32.) 24 Sep 2018 22:14:27
Yes I played hockey in North America, yes I watched Don Cherry every Saturday night and no I’m not an advocate to get fighting or all violence out of hockey. But I have no respect for someone punching an unsuspecting guy in the face, wth a history of concussions or not. That doesn’t show toughness. That doesn’t show courage. That doesn’t show he’s willing to stick up for teammates. It shows that he’s a hyper little boy who can’t keep his emotions in check and is so mentally weak that he’s not capable of getting tapped and shoved in a pro hockey game without lashing out risking hurting his team in the process.


33.) 25 Sep 2018 00:23:20
Domi/ Pearson looked like the same way about 75% of fights start to me. Idk what your watching lol. i bet you didn't mind when his father was fighting this way. Also did you hear the praise the announcer gave him for showing some passion. They must be on my wave length maybe someday I'll get on yours but it won't be anytime soon.


34.) 25 Sep 2018 04:49:21
That’s fine. And I’ve already said I didn’t like when Tie Domi did this garbage either. When he threw out the chicken wing elbow on Niedermayers head in the playoffs it was disgusting. When he sucker punched Ulf Samuelson (one of the dirtiest to ever play), I thought that was brutal too. When he gave stu grimson, Marty mcsorely and bob probert time to get their gloves off and had 1:30-2:00 tilts with some of the toughest players to ever play the game, i liked it. I can objectively say when someone is dirty and does dumb things even if they’re on the leafs, like I did with Tie and like I have with Kadri. You aren’t capable of that. And I know it will flip around and be a horrible incident if a hab gets a cheap shot this year. I also know that Domi will be an overrated goon in your eyes if it doesn’t work out in Montreal and he’s traded next year too lol.


35.) 25 Sep 2018 04:54:50
And Montreal has an insanely rich history in the league. I know they’re at a low point right now, but if a sucker punch is the ‘passion’ they need, they’re a lot lower than I even thought lol

Claude Julien - “People are doubting us this season boys, how are we going to show them we are for real and still have pride? ”

Domi - “ummmm, what about if we sucker punch players on the other teams that are better than us? ”

CJ - “That will work! ”

Lol brutal.


 

 

14 Sep 2018 02:43:41
Teams in the pacific division have been busy.

They have added:

Erik Karlsson
Ilya Kovalchuk
Max Paccioretty
James Neal
Paul Stastny
Alex Galchenyuk
Elias Lindholm
Noah Hanifin

Oilers added:

Tobias Rieder
Kyle Brodziak
Miko Koskinen

I know last year was a bad year and they’re counting on their guys stepping up, but surely the rest of the division is preparing for war and it seems like the oilers are preparing to just ride Mcdavid again. Everything could go their way and they could win the division and I’d have to eat my words, but it looks like Chiarelli has missed out on a lot.

Unbiased Jim

1.) 14 Sep 2018 04:53:38
We'll jim he didn't have the cap space to do much which I guess is mostly his own fault as we'll. when you take in account the subtraction from a couple of those teams calgery with hamilton and Vegas with Perron and Neal how much did they really improve? Kovalchuk is a wild card and galchenyuk is nothing to be scared of. But karlson does make the sharks a whole lot more intimidating on paper at least. i could see the oilers missing the playoffs again but I wouldn't be suprised if a few of those teams miss out as well.


2.) 14 Sep 2018 05:30:48
Oil don’t have the cap. Waaay overpayed on a backup goalie, gave Russell and Sekera too much money, overpayed bottom six forwards like Cagguila and Kassian and wasted 300K on buying out Gryba which doesn’t seem like a lot but it’s rumoured to be what the difference in contract talks with Nurse are.
I’d say it’s finally a buyers market and Chiarelli is blowing it.


3.) 14 Sep 2018 07:10:06
The oilers should take advantage of the fire sale in Ottawa. Stone for Lucic and a 7th? Just a question to oilers fans. Who’s better, Nurse or Klefbom? I’d like to see either one on the leafs. You guys have mentioned the oilers are stacked on the left side. I’d prefer the tenacity of Nurse. I’ve read that Klefbom is a steady shutdown d man which the leafs need as well. I really don’t see enough Oiler games to judge. I know the leafs need a RD but I’d take either one of them on my team. Someone could play the opposite side for a season and let Gardiner walk. Maybe a deal could be worked out around Nylander? You can throw us Kassian too to help with cap. McDavid, Nylander and Hopkins would be dangerous.


4.) 14 Sep 2018 16:26:27
I get the cap space issue, but I’m saying he has painted himself into a corner over the past cpl years and now is missing out because of it. Also, at the price that some of these guys went for, he could have added an asset to include salary retention and still come out ahead.


5.) 14 Sep 2018 18:47:49
Neal stasny pacioretty and kovalchuk would have had to want to sign there though.


6.) 14 Sep 2018 20:41:14
@Habby, you’re right, it’s not all within Chiarellis control and not all his fault. Just saying all his decisions have repercussions. For example if Lucic wasn’t taking up so much cap, you could offer more money. That could change someone’s mind about playing in Edmonton. Or getting to play with Hall would be a draw for a lot of guys, can’t play that card anymore. So missing out on these guys isn’t just him not being able to pull it off that day, but also what’s led to them not being able to land these guys, or anyone else of significance. Because a cpl years ago, like when Lucic signed, the prospect of going to the Oilers to play with mcdavid was considered a huge selling point but PC just hasn’t been able to take advantage of that like I expected. But again, they could win the division and Chiarelli looks like a genius for not spending more. Only as good as yesterday.


7.) 16 Sep 2018 07:17:55
Some of the names you listed aren’t really fair to have on that list. I’m sure the Oilers probably tried to get someone like Neal but couldn’t meet his contract demands, so that’s apt. But guys like Lindholm and Hanifin were gotten by trade. Don’t forget that while Lindholm and Hanifin came
In, Hamilton is gone. Oilers didn’t have a player like that to offer up. So it’s not exactly like they “missed out”, they didn’t have the proper currency. Maybe Puljujarvi could have brought the same return, but I think giving up on him this early would have been a mistake.

Oilers definitely didn’t add as much firepower as I would have liked, and having no significant player to step in for the absence of Sekera is worrisome but we’ll have to wait and see how things shake out. Maybe last year really was just a down year and there is enough rebound in this team to prove doubters wrong. We’ll have to wait and see.


 

 

08 Sep 2018 23:07:41
Just to make VBBs head explode with excitement.

At NHL media day, players were asked a series of questions, including “which team, other than your own, do you think is the Stanley Cup favourite? ”

Patty Kane, Crosby, Malkin and Seguin all said Leafs. With 10 cups between them, do you think they know what they’re talking about? Lol

VBB, DM me if you want to help plan the parade route. Leafs17, you’re welcome too, bring snacks.

Unbiased Jim

1.) 09 Sep 2018 01:41:12
Who did they all predict would win last year I wonder.


2.) 09 Sep 2018 06:51:14
I’m good for now but I’ll bring snacks if need be. I just want to see them win a round or two. I forget what that feels like.


3.) 09 Sep 2018 14:10:44
I feel like winning the cup next season may be a reach but you never know.


4.) 09 Sep 2018 15:45:08
They have a solid chance I would think.


5.) 09 Sep 2018 17:41:42
I put them in a small group of 4-5 teams that I wouldn’t be shocked to see in the finals. WPG, NASH in the west. Tampa, Tor in the east. Can never rule out Sid and the Pens but I feel like their regression is starting (could be proved very wrong) . And have to include the champs, but the way Ovie has been celebrating, he might give ‘stanley cup hangover’ a whole be meaning lol.


6.) 09 Sep 2018 18:53:27
The NHL has actually put in some new rules for cup celebrations in the off season because of how much partying Ovie and the caps have done.
I think one is no more keg stands out of it. Lol.

Tor is just outside of Winnipeg, Nashville, Tampa, Wasnington in my opinions. Can mayyybe bunch them in wth Pittsburgh, Boston, even STL maybe this season.


7.) 09 Sep 2018 19:57:22
You have to include the f’n Bruins on that list Jim. Even with Tavares, the Bruins will be a problem. I’ve said it before and I still think the Leafs would match up better against Tampa than Boston. Chara, Miller and McQuaid are big and nasty come playoff time. Then there’s Backes and the rat on forward. If the leafs don’t add some grit somewhere in the line up, I’m afraid the results are going to be the same.


8.) 10 Sep 2018 12:26:08
They probably rarely get it right lol just thought it was nice to hear about a 30th place team a cpl years ago and a team that’s been the butt of a lot of jokes in the league (rightfully so) for years.

Matthews responded to the quotes just saying he’s heard the hype in the media and it means nothing, and as much as this still proves nothing, it’s a huge compliment coming from peers rather than writers.


9.) 10 Sep 2018 15:51:52
It is. I hope the media there stay somewhat grounded and allow the team to play and not expect them to win every game.


10.) 10 Sep 2018 20:14:12
Leafs17, you’re right on Boston. They’re a tough matchup. And they have kinda caught this second wind in their contender window, but I just think injuries and age will catch up to them very soon. Maybe not this year. But Chara is going to begin an even bigger decline than he already has. Bergeron is 33 or so and had some serious injuries, could start to slow down. Backes never seems to be 100%. Marchand and Pasta and Macavoy will have to have MVP years for the next cpl again I think.


 

 

28 Aug 2018 23:51:14
Do you guys think GMs have finally learned their lesson with terrible contracts on July 1st? Every year there was handfuls of terrible contracts handed out, they would be criticized, managers would spend 2 seasons trying to get out from under it and then do it again lol

And it was league wide and done by some really good GMs as well as poor ones.

The biggest contracts given out on July 1st 2016 are as follows.

Lucic 7yrs x $6mill
Okposo 7yrs x $6mill
Ladd 7yrs x $5.5mill
Backes 5yrs x $6mill
Nielsen 6yrs x $5.25mill
Brouwer 4yrs x $4.5mill

2 years later, you could have just about any of those players for free if you just agreed to pay the contract and in some cases they might retain some money.

Fast forward 2 years and the only 7 year contract handed out was for John Tavares. Players like JVR, James Neal are getting 5 years who surely would have been able to get 7 a cpl years ago. Stastny and Bozaks and slightly lower tier guys would have been getting 5-6 year deals and are now settling at 3. Even a guy like dehaan hitting the market a cpl years ago would have been the Niskanen type deal getting 6-7 yrs out of desperation. Instead he got 4 I believe.

Also heard there’s over 90 players who were full time NHLers last season without a current contract. There will surely still be the mistakes (Leo Komarov getting 4 years comes to mind) but do you think it’s possible they have finally learned the cap system a bit better?!

Unbiased Jim

1.) 29 Aug 2018 02:51:59
I think GM’s know for the most part know the last year or two of the contracts will be mistakes but that’s what it takes to sign a big name. It just so happens that all the guys you named had bad seasons or are on the downward trend of there careers and most fans could’ve told you that contracts will be big mistakes.


2.) 29 Aug 2018 07:52:27
Also wanted to add to the post about best contracts, Crosby 7 years left at 8.7 is one of the best.


3.) 29 Aug 2018 15:24:02
@ebs, I agree at the time most people knew those deals were going to hurt. But that’s the point I was trying to make. A lot Those guys were were at the same point in their careers as JVR and them now and he could only get 5 years. It seems like a trend towards pay a bit higher salary, but make year 5 the one that’s probably going to hurt as opposed to years 5,6 and 7.


4.) 29 Aug 2018 15:28:36
Its only been doing this for a cpl years (shattenkirks 4 yrs when almost everyone assumed 7) It’s possible it’s only this way For a cpl seasons and next year they’re back to 7 years for above average players and then the whole theory is out the window lol but for those 3-4 years prior, a top 4 dman or a top 6 forward was all but guaranteed a massive pay day with 7 years security, and now this year the only guy to get it was someone that literally never hits the market.


5.) 29 Aug 2018 21:47:29
Yeah you make a good point. Hopefully that’s the trend going forward. 5 years instead of 7 is actually manageable. I think Byfuglien did that last year or the year before, took more money for less term.


6.) 30 Aug 2018 04:00:56
But I will say this all this negative talk surrounding the team will probably make them better. There shouldn't be any pressure that's for sure. half the fan base don't think we are going to win a game this year so maybe there will be a Vegas situation cause I'd still take the habs roster over what I though of them last year hell I'd almost take Ottawa too.


7.) 30 Aug 2018 04:01:21
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24 Sep 2018 21:59:51
Not terrible. Bennett is a safer player. He will play in the NHL in some capacity for sure. Whether he puts it together and starts scoring like he should, or be a more specialized penalty killer bottom 6. HoSang on the other hand is a riskier pick. Kinda reminds me of rob Schremp. All the skill in the world but not the work ethic or attitude to succeed maybe. However if you trade a bottom 6 guy for HoSang and he grows up, could be a steal.

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24 Sep 2018 19:19:49
My thinking was if a team approached the oilers and asked what it would take to get mcdavid. Oilers name the package. That team says forget it and calls jets instead, the package shouldn’t be a whole lot less if I’m jets management.

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24 Sep 2018 19:18:23
I’ve made the statement before on here that Winnipeg should want about as much for scheifele in a trade as Edmonton would want for Mcdavid because he’s 80% of the player signed long term for 45% of the money. However I would never suggest oilers actually trade mcdavid lol.

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24 Sep 2018 18:30:10
Tanev is the type of Dman that we could use but value wise doesn’t come close to Nylander. And leafs with tavares at $11 mill, Matthews will be the same or more and Kadri at $4.5 we couldn’t have $4.3mill in a fourth line centre for 3 more years. Value isn’t there and neither is cap space or player need.

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21 Sep 2018 20:25:16
Lol not close. Jones is one of the most valuable pieces in the league because of position, age and contract. Leafs would have to add a lot to Nylander to get him alone. Jackets laugh so very hard at this.

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