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11 Jul 2018 21:20:26
Washington: Tom Wilson/Andre Burakovsky, Lucus Johanson and 1st 2019

Columbus: Antrimi Paniran

* Capitals have over 8 million in cap space with only Wilson to sign

Washington- gets the best player in the deal and one of the most skilled players in the nhl. Would be ridiculous on the 2nd line. Could finally break out and become Washington's highest producing player.

Columbus: Wilson is one of the best in the NHL at what he does ( torts would love him ) and Bura is a young player on the uprise. They also get 2 1st round picks.

Top 9 for caps-
Ovie-Backstrom-Vrana
Paniran-Kuz-Oshie
Bura-Eller-Smith Pelly

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1.) 12 Jul 2018 05:18:08
1) the value of wilson and burakovsky are way different
2) if you want to suggest a trade you should be able to spell the guy's name. Panarin*.


2.) 12 Jul 2018 13:06:19
Good work, vb. Is this offer for an extended Paniran or not?


3.) 12 Jul 2018 13:35:36
No it’s not for an extended Paniran but if he were willing to take a discount around 7 mil the caps could resign him.


4.) 12 Jul 2018 13:42:41
PKane88- maybe provide some imput on the actual trade instead of stating the obvious? I sware I went on cap geek to Copy his name but I totally forgot lol. Anyway what’s your imput on the value.


5.) 12 Jul 2018 15:43:04
I think the jackets could do better even without an extension in place for panarin. I also think he will get paid at least 9 mil or more.


6.) 13 Jul 2018 03:50:12
You butchered his name lol


7.) 13 Jul 2018 13:03:59
Way too much for wsh to give up wilson and a first is plenty.


8.) 13 Jul 2018 13:38:21
VB- I said that burakovsky and wilson value is way different, if it is wilson i'd say fair deal, if burakovsky i'd say huge overpayment by washington.


 

 

09 Jul 2018 17:23:39
CLB: Paniran and 2019 2nd Rd

LA: Toffoli, Vilardi and 2019 1st

Paniran signs 8x8 ( 64 million )

CLB- Paniran said he's willing to sign a short term deal to win in Columbus but you got to think he'll leave as UFA if given the opportunity he wants to live in a big market for his wife to pursue modeling and besides New York LA Is the next best place.

The Jackets get a replacement, a top 10 prospect in the NHL and upgrade their pick.

LA: gets exactly what they need an speedy Offensive Dynamo to play with Kopitar and Kovi or take a spot on the 2nd line in Toffolis old spot while moving Kempe to the 1st line.

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03 Jul 2018 19:56:18
Ottawa is a tough spot they can either trade Karlsson for an underwhelming return or lose him as an FA.

Ottawa: Erik Karlsson and Bobby Ryan

Vegas: Colin Miller and 1st 2019

Or

Ottawa: Erik Karlsson

Vegas: Shea Theodore, Alex Tuch and 2nd 2019

Or

Ottawa: Erik Karlsson

Colorado: Zandonov/Timmins and Ottawa's 1st 2019

Or

Ottawa: Karlsson

Tampa: Tyler Johnson, Taylor Raddish, Slatter Koekkoek And 1st 2019

Or

Ottawa: Karlsson

Washington:Matt Niskanen, Jakub Varna/Andre Burakovsky, Lucus Johanson and 1st 2019

If he is traded he'll return a similar package to these.

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1.) 03 Jul 2018 20:27:42
Eric karlson was never top of my fav players list but I've noticed over the last 3 years he's really improved his play in the defensive zone along with being the top offensive defenseman in the league. I'm not going to be one of these guys who say he's one of the top 3 players in the league but when he's healthy he is for sure top 10. So essentially what I'm saying is if this is all it takes to get him and montreal doesn't at least try then I would be super ticked off.


2.) 03 Jul 2018 21:02:11
I highly doubt he’d resign with a non competitive team + do they really wanna pay him 11-13 million. @habby.


3.) 03 Jul 2018 21:15:08
I'm sure other places would be more attractive to him ATM but not all the teams that look like contenders on paper can afford him. and maybe he'd like to stay close to where he's been his whole career and that means toronto or montreal really. And the habs can afford to take on his and Ryan's cap and yes resign him too.


4.) 03 Jul 2018 21:16:36
We don't really know where his preferred destinations are yet but I wouldn't bet on it being montreal or toronto just the same.


5.) 03 Jul 2018 21:45:41
vegas fan right here.


6.) 03 Jul 2018 22:14:52
Colorado AND vegas fan =)


7.) 03 Jul 2018 22:30:04
Actually I’m a leafs fan and even if that were true ( leafs don’t even have the cap ) the sens would not trade their best player in franchise history to two of their biggest rivals you guys can disagree all you want but once Ottawa let’s Karlsson walk or gets an underwhelming return I’ll be the 1st to tell you guys I told you so just like I told Rambo about Hoffman.


8.) 03 Jul 2018 23:57:54
Toronto has better young guys than Montreal does. I don't think it would be wise to trade to either. I believe he will be traded to the West. If Karlsson goes to Toronto, the Leafs will be in playoffs for long time especially with Tavares probably a cup or 2. Dorion needs to find either a good top 2 Centre, goalie and between prospect or top 4 D-Man.


9.) 04 Jul 2018 02:30:04
I'm not disagreeing with you when you say he won't get as much as Rambo thinks he will I just don't see either of these deals being enough at this time.


10.) 04 Jul 2018 02:30:25
Some are probably close though.


11.) 04 Jul 2018 13:54:01
Just such random and so many values that are so different, hard to tell what you think Karlsson value is, colin Miller and a first? Obviously no from sens. The second trade with a first instead of a 2nd looks a lot better. The teams rumored to get him are contenders other than NYi, so a 2nd would be 50-60 pick and that's not enough.


 

 

02 Jul 2018 02:38:12
Confirmed trade:

Buffalo- Ryan O'Rielly

Saint Louis- Patrick Berglund, Vladimir Sobotka, Tage Thompson, 2019 1st and 2021 2nd

My opinion is it's a great trade for saint Louis and a good trade for Buffalo. Berglund and Sobotka have a little bit of value but they were included for cap reasons they will bring good depth for the Sabres. Tage Thompson looks like a promising prospect with potential to step right in the line up. The 1st and 2nd add more value. Ryan O'Rielly is a true number one Center and one of the best 2 way players in the game. He will be a big addition to the Blues a Schwartz-O'Rielly-Taresanko will be fun to watch. O'Rielly clearly wasn't fitting in, in Buffalo

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1.) 02 Jul 2018 04:21:08
I don't think he is a true number 1 center but a real good number 2. Buffalo did we'll in the deal but St. Louis didn't have to give up Thomas or kyrou to get him so it's ok for them too I guess. If blues get real good goaltending they might make a run at it this year.


2.) 02 Jul 2018 05:03:38
He’s a top 30c in the NHL probably top 20. So he’s a 1st line c.


3.) 02 Jul 2018 06:57:09
Yeah I'm sure he can play 1st line center but he's not what I would consider a true number 1.


4.) 02 Jul 2018 07:33:12
I think blues won this trade.

Also Schwartz and schenn have ridiculous chemistry together. Lines could be as follows

Fabbri O'Reilly tarasenko
Schwartz schenn kyrou
Perron bozak Thomas
Steen barbashev jaskin soshnikov

Edds petro
Dunn parayko
Jaybo schmaltz borts.


5.) 02 Jul 2018 17:08:02
It was a lot to gget be up for sure. When I saw the final trade a assumes that meant Buffalo was paying the 7.5 mill signing bonus owed yesterday. For them to get all that plus blues paid the bonus. great job. But from blues perspective, they got a really good centre while minimizing what roster players and top prospects left. Getting bozak without giving up assets obviously helps that.


6.) 02 Jul 2018 21:54:11
Also blues save 1 mil on the cap.


7.) 03 Jul 2018 03:41:11
Bringing david perron back into the mix as well should help.


 

 

02 Jul 2018 00:21:54
Leafs lines 2018-2019

Hyman-Mathews-Nylander
Marleau-Tavares-Marner
Johanson-Kadri-Kappanen
LW=X C=Y Connor Brown

X= Martin, Josh Jooris, Josh Leivo or Carl Grundstrom

Y= Fredrick Gauthier, Par Lindholm or a FA

Carl Grundstrom is the leafs most promising prospect imo and while his style is a Blake Wheeler/Tom Wilson ( obviously not on the same planet as Wheeler right now. )hybrid I don't think he's suited for 4th line minutes

Rielly-Hanisey
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Dermotte-Carrick

I think this Dcore is underrated Rielly and Gardiner are both Priemier offensive deffensman near elite ( 50 points don't grow on trees ) Dermotte is projected to replace Gardiner and the leafs are have plenty of top young dman in the System.

The leafs deffense is better then the Pens 2017 cup team but the leafs could use a complementary dman for Rielly like Tanev

Hopefully Lilijgren pans out as a Rielly-Lillijgren line would be special.

Anyways what would Leafs-Vancouver fans think of this?

Toronto: Connor Brown, Ron Hainesey and a 2019 1st

Vancouver: Chris Tanev

Vancouver- gets a great young 3rd line forward who can move up and down the lineup, a nice veteran replacement who brings strong leadership. And a 1st for their rebuild

Toronto- gets exactly what they need at a cheap cat hit the only down side is he is often injured.

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1.) 02 Jul 2018 18:06:09
Lmao tavares playing 2nd line is pretty funny lol. usually the better player goes on line 1 vbbvbb just shows how ignorant you are to the sport.


2.) 02 Jul 2018 19:37:35
^ i'm sure Tavares won’t cry because he's playing second line lol if anything would be down to play against easier competition.


3.) 02 Jul 2018 19:50:29
Yah okay I guess the 4 panelists on the Free Agency frenzy show who said Tavares would compliment Mathews good but “ Mathews is just on a different level with 5 on 5 offense and deffensive play “they also stated “ Mathews is a Generational talent “ Mathews is the better player and all of the “ experts “ agree so the opinions of a couple of delusional oilers fans and a Psychiatric patient are pretty irrelevant to me and society in general.

Do you remember when Mathews scored 4 goals in his 1st AHL game as an 18 year old single handedly beating the the Senators? Probably not considering if you knew anything you’d know Babcock roles his top 6 and dosent have a definitive top line but I mean let’s hear your counter argument it’ll hold just about as much credibility as your opinion on Hoffman returning a top 5 pick.


4.) 02 Jul 2018 20:33:45
Well Rambo, before you start calling out other user's ignorance of the sport (which is hilariously ironic to begin with) you probably should have done some research on the matter where you would have discovered that Babcock has already stated that he will essentially roll two first lines. Matthews paired with Nylander, Tavares with Marner.

School's out kiddo; maybe put down your xbox controller and pick up a book sometime--it may make you less of a putz.


5.) 02 Jul 2018 20:56:03
There’s no helping this guy. Vbbb’s may exaggerate sometimes but he knows a lot more about the sport than you Rambo.


6.) 02 Jul 2018 21:18:26
I meant NHL not AHL lol.


 

 

 

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14 Jul 2018 16:20:14
I really don't see the Premium for RHD in the NHL

Top 10 RHD-
1. Doughty
2. Karlsson
3. Burns
4. Pietrangelo
5. Weber
6. Subban
7. Jones
8. Klingburg
9. Letang
10. Buffuglien/Eklblad

Top 10 LHD
1. Hedman
2. Josi
3. Suter
4. OEL
5. Vlasic
6. Slavin
7.Ghostisphere
8. Lindholm
9. Kieth
10. Girodano/Rielly

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1.) 14 Jul 2018 17:05:26
Right hand side looks better.


2.) 15 Jul 2018 07:35:43
Maybe its about more than the top 10? RHD thins out much faster, def less (good) depth.


3.) 15 Jul 2018 07:36:42
Also props for ranking Weber > Subban and Jones lol.


4.) 15 Jul 2018 15:17:53
How is Weber not as good as Subban and Jones? Jones will be a stud but he’s definitely not better now and Subban is one dimensional and in that 1 dimension Weber is better then him lol. In a full season Weber was projected to score 50 points this season on a bottom 5 team. That says a lot he’s extremely underrated due to his contract. On a top team he's a 65 Point player while being the best pker in the game.

Also when you look at the lower end RHD it’s Trouba, Paryanko, Hamilton, Ristolainen and Erik Johnson vs guys like Provorov, Muzzin, McDonagh, Gardiner and Yandel LHD cut off very Quickly it seems like most teams have imbalances on the right side not the left. With that being said Chabot and Dahlin will probably climb up the top 10 next season.


5.) 15 Jul 2018 16:01:44
Vb let's just be clear. Weber is very good. he's not as good as you claim. You can't use a quarter of the season and project it with any kind of certainty. His career could be pretty much over if he doesn't recover well from these injuries. You say he's a 65 point player on a good team but he's never scored 60 in his life and isn't getting any younger. You know who has scored 60? Subban. And Jones had more points last year than Webers career high 56. he's a good player won't deny that. Positions himself well defensively and has one of if not the best slapshots in hockey. But you're still either overvaluing him or discounting at least Subban.


6.) 16 Jul 2018 02:53:44
VB.

1. Weber is declining. With the injury he had this past season, that process will be sped up. His skill level will drop to a top 4 in 2-3 years.

2. Jones is the next upcoming defenceman in the NHL. Perhaps even the next Doughty. Excellent offensive game and has an extremely under-rated defensive side.

3. How is Subban one dimensional? If you mean offence, Subban is much better than Weber in that category. In terms of physicality, I'd say both are pretty close but Subban takes the cake. But in terms of defending, Weber wins.


7.) 16 Jul 2018 03:28:55
Also:

Huge lol at Giordano being even in that list aaand at Slavin being so high up.


8.) 16 Jul 2018 03:49:36
He’s never been on a world class power play like Toronto or Tampa tho put him top powerplay and I firmly believe he’s a 60 Point player. My opinion. We’ll see about the injury but I believe you’re blowing that out of proportion.


9.) 16 Jul 2018 12:44:51
Ok but neither has Subban or Jones. Subban has played on the same teams and Jones played on one of those teams and Columbus.


10.) 16 Jul 2018 15:32:34
Once Subban left Montreal the Canadians took a step back and once Weber left Nashville the preds took a step forward imo. And you can’t seriously say Subban is physically better then Weber come on now. Subban a better PP quarter back and puck mover butweber has the much better shot.


11.) 19 Jul 2018 01:08:29
I'll tell you that subban is the best interference player in the league never have I seen someone sit on so many top players in the league holding them out of the play. #1.


 

 

12 Jul 2018 14:14:58
Here is my way to early 2018-2019 NHL projected standing.

Met
1.Washington
2. Pittsburgh
3.Columbus

Atl
1.Tampa
2.Toronto
3.Boston

Wild card
1. Florida
2. Philadelphia

West

Cen

1.Winnepeg
2.Nashville
3.Saint Louis

Pac
1. San Jose
2. LA
3. Anaheim

Wild card
1. Dallas
2. Minnesota

Lottery
15. Las Vegas
14. Edmonton
13. Calargry
12. Colorado
11. Montreal
10. New York Islanders
9. New Jersey
8. New York Rangers
7. Carolina
6. Chicago
5. Buffalo
4. Arizona
3. Detroit
2. Vancouver
1. Ottawa

What do you guys think?

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1.) 12 Jul 2018 15:33:53
Minnesota doesn’t make playoffs imo.

Zona, CGY and Vegas should be better imo. Zonas a dark horse for playoff this year.


2.) 12 Jul 2018 15:34:21
And CGY>>LA imo.


3.) 12 Jul 2018 15:53:21
It's possible I think calgary will be better though.


4.) 12 Jul 2018 22:18:23
I doubt Vegas makes the playoffs and Minnesota still has suter, a top goalie and depth at every position. IMO suter is still a top 5 dman. Maybe Calargry makes the playoffs. And I don’t see how Arizona steps up they need another Elite presance to do anything.


5.) 13 Jul 2018 04:28:18
I think Oilers get in, and my Habs are closer to a shot at Number 1 draft pick.


 

 

03 Jul 2018 12:50:51
This is to big for a comment imo but this is directed towards 2707 and the " Faulk is number 1 D man on 50% of teams "

I'm about to list all of Dman on Each 31 teams that are better then Faulk in alphabetical order of team and sorted from best to worst for eash team.

Anaheim- Hampus Lindholm, Cam Fowler and Josh Manson

Arizona- OEL

Boston-Charlie McAvoi

Buffalo- Rasmus Dahlin

Calargry- Mark Girodano

Carolina- Jacob Slavin( Most underated player in NHL ) , Dougie Hamilton and Brett Pesce

Chicago- Duncan Keith

Colorado- Eric Johnson and Tyson Barrie

Columbus- Seth Jones and Zach Werneski

Dallas- John Klinberg

Detroit-Debatable Mike Green ( in process of Rebuild)

Edmonton- Adam Larsson

Florida-Arron Eklblad

LA-Drew Doughty

Minnesota- Ryan Sutter,Jared Spurgeon, Matt Dumba and Jonas Brodin

Montreal- Shea Weber

Nashville- Josi, Subban, Ellis, Ekholm

New Jersey- Sami Vatanen

Islanders- Leddy

Rangers- Shattenkirk

Ottawa- Karlsson and Chabot

Philly- Provorov and Ghost

Pittsburgh- Letang

San Jose- Burns and Vlasic

Sanit Louis- Pietrangelo, Paryanko and Edmonston

Tampa- Hedman,McDonagh and Stralman

Toronto- Rielly and Gardiner

Vegas- Miller and Theodore

Washington- Orlov ( another underrated dman ) and Karlsson

Winnipeg-Buff and Trouba

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1.) 03 Jul 2018 15:35:24
There a lot more then that too bv just a quick glance morrisey in winnipeg muzzin in la matheson in fla tj brodie and hanafin in calgary and so on and so on lol.


2.) 03 Jul 2018 16:06:36
Schmidt in Vegas, risto in buffalo, arguably Krug in Boston but I wouldn’t have Chabot on that list in Ottawa. Not yet anyway. And Dahlin is obviously all speculative, but signs clearly point to yes.


3.) 03 Jul 2018 16:08:02
Also guys that watch their own teams will have other under the radar guys that we don’t really know or think are that good, for example Zaitsev in his first year was really impressive to watch and then took a big step back last year with injuries and inconsistency.


4.) 03 Jul 2018 16:26:41
Risto was in my mind but I decided not to put him in there because of advanced stats but he’s a beast I think he’s much better. I considered Muzzin but I left him out. Never really considered Schmit and I personally don’t like Krug but you can make an argument. Also yah Morrisy is in the same Catagory as Chabot.


5.) 03 Jul 2018 19:54:00
Yeah, I think morrisey has proven a lot more than Chabot tho. Chabot May have a higher ceiling, but morrisey has played tough minutes in a tough division and hasn’t looked out of place at all. Chabot hasn’t had that real break out moment yet in the NHL. Went full beast mode at WJC tho.


6.) 03 Jul 2018 21:21:05
Some of these i disagree with.


7.) 04 Jul 2018 00:49:03
There isn't an argument krug is much better then faulk vb.


 

 

19 Jun 2018 15:02:21
Ottawa: Hoffman and Ottawa's 5th round pick 2020 + a no name prospect

San Jose: Boedker and San Jose 5th round pick 2020 + a no name prospect

Confirmed trade

Rambo? Where is the 1st round pick and elite prospect.

Trades like this show how little we know about the nhl this trade wasn't to maximize value for the rebuild it was a statement about there commitment to make Ottawa a better organization and to possibly resign Karlsson

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1.) 19 Jun 2018 16:05:13
Now he's gone to florida lol.


2.) 19 Jun 2018 16:12:55
Hopefully by getting Hoffman Florida won't want pacioretty now.


3.) 20 Jun 2018 04:44:12
Not that I'd mind a pacioretty trade just wouldn't really want to play against him that often and I really don't want bjustad.


4.) 20 Jun 2018 06:10:42
Doubt Bjustad would be the main piece back anyway also it’s only one season.


5.) 20 Jun 2018 14:10:33
I think florida would be a place where he would have resigned but I guess overall it doesn't matter where he goes if they get back a decent return. florida would have almost had to give up bjusgstad if they were indeed interested because they didn't have much else that habs would have wanted that they would have been willing to give up. If not I guess matheson or their 1st pick might have done it too.


6.) 20 Jun 2018 16:15:53
I’d think the 1st round pick is more logical.


7.) 20 Jun 2018 16:55:22
Yeah probably but I doubt there is any chance of them trading that after the picks they traded for hoffman.


8.) 23 Jun 2018 19:00:16
Wonder if Rambone admits he was so wrong on Hoffmans value.
Reminds me of that STL homer Colt with Shattenkirk.


 

 

19 May 2018 23:34:06
This is a post comparing Jake Gardiner of the Toronto Maple Leafs to Justin Faulk of the Carolina Hurricanes.

Offensive Production for the 2017-2018 season

Jake Gardiner- 82GP 5G 47A 52P TOI 22:32 TOI/PP 2:04

Justin Faulk- 78GP 8G 23A 31P TOI 22:16 TOI/PP 2:56

Offensive Production for the 2016-2017 season

Jake Gardiner-82GP 9G 34A 43P +26

Justin Faulk- 75GP 17G 20A 37P -18

As you can see statistically Gardiner is the superior player offensively and Faulk is regressing while Gardiner is improving. Faulk has the Supirior goal scoring ability but his stats are inflated due to supirior exposure to the top PP compared to Gardiner.

Defensive statistics

Gardiner- +9

Faulk- -26

Jake Gardiner proves to be the superior defensive dman by far according to advanced statistics. I'll give you guys a link to compare the two. Please visit Hockeyrefernce.com to view advanced statistics.

So according to statistics Jake Gardiner is a top pairing dman and is far superior to Faulk. Now I'm sure if someone attempts to argue they'll bring up points such as "+- is a team stat" " Toronto is much Better then Carolina " "advanced stats are overrated ". But statistics prove that the only thing Faulk is better at is scoring on the PP. also Faulk was sheltered under a stud top line of Slavin and Pesce. While Gardiner was started mostly in the D Zone. Also his D partner Hanfin is much superior then Zaitsev.

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1.) 20 May 2018 00:33:55
I’m not one for it, but I’d look at HERO/ WAR charts for defensive stats. Idk what they are on either, but they provide a much clearer defensive idea of a player than plus minus, imo.

However, I do agree that Gardiner is given a lot of slack and has recieved hugely negative feedback for what was, altogether, a rather impressive season for him. Don’t take me wrong, I’m not a ‘Jake Gardiner fan’, I’d prefer him to be traded, but the only reason for that is because Torontos defensive core is literally full of players like him, Dermott, Zaitsev, Rielly, etc. But people, and especially Leaf fans treat him he's like worth a meh pick and a couple of roster throwaway because of his poor play in game seven. Overall, for his seasons play, he is worth a pretty good amount - and teams in dire need of PP dmen (Edmonton, Montreal, Detroit, Rangers, Chicago, Vancouver) could certainly use him and may give up a decent amount for him.


2.) 20 May 2018 01:27:00
So I took a look at these advanced stats:
Hits: Faulk (77 more)
Blocks: Gardiner (13 more)
Takeaways: Faulk (44 more)
Giveaways: Faulk (39 less)
Possession stats:
Corsi: Faulk (5% better)
Fenwick: Faulk (4.6% better)
Shots: Faulk (78 more)
Shooting %: Equal

Based on this I’m not sure what you mean Gardiner is superior defensively. I agree Gardiner is far and away better offensively. But defensively Faulk shows he’s a very good d man and Gardiner is average if not below.


3.) 20 May 2018 02:08:11
I agree Hero charts are much better then +- but I just didn’t wanna type out all those stats lol that’s why I gave a suggested link.


4.) 20 May 2018 12:31:12
Shots, hits aren’t really defensive numbers but i didn’t think the such close stats meant much. ( corsi and fenwick ) Also didn’t really look at the Takeaway/ giveaway ratio that’s Gardiners biggest fault. Gardiner is still the better dman. Yup would you like to chip in it seems like you have a lot to say.


5.) 21 May 2018 00:45:00
Overall I would agree that gardiner is slightly better I've been saying faulk is overrated for years.


6.) 24 May 2018 16:27:03
I don’t think there’s a huge difference either way besides the obvious lefty/ righty thing. But on this site, there’s so many people talk about Faulk like he’s a stud and Gardiner gets a tough go. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. They’re both probably 3rd men on a good squad. 2nd on an average one.


 

 

 

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21 Jul 2018 09:12:37
ECHL quality defence? Larsson is just as good as Trouba. Klefbom and nurse are just as good as and if not better then Myers. Not do mention they grabbed Bouchard who has top 2 potential and have Bear in the pipe line. I’m pretty sure Klefbom would score 3 goals per period in the ECHL.

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21 Jul 2018 05:56:18
Sorry man I don’t follow anysport besides hockey lol.

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21 Jul 2018 05:55:17
I don't understand why everyone overvalues leafs players? I obviously don’t think he’s as good as McDavid he’s on the Eichel level imo. Maybe abit better ( 40 goals vs what ever Eichel got but yah ) .

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21 Jul 2018 05:52:00
I posted that same trade but with a lottery protected 1st. Good deal imo.

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21 Jul 2018 05:50:36
I’m going to be honest here Drais is great and has more value then Rielly but no way leafs make this trade Rielly is the only bright spot in there Dcore and Peter. C is known for making questionable trades so “maybe” if Rielly was a RHD he’d accept it but the fact is the oilers are set at the left side.

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