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21 May 2018 13:04:57
Because of the knights success this season which statement holds more value?

1 every team in the nhl is a stanley cup contender
2 every nhl Gm should be ashamed of themselves besides george McPhee and whoever makes the final

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21 May 2018 13:21:23
3. The expansion rules were overly generous.

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21 May 2018 13:29:17
4. Minnesota, columbus and floridas gms are dweebs.

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21 May 2018 13:42:17
Well I’m not sure if Brendan Shanahan/ Lou Lamorello should be ashamed for losing Brandon Liespic so I’ll go with option 1.

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21 May 2018 16:35:27
The expansion was NOT overly generous.

Was there a single person at the start of the year saying VGK will win their division. Or make the playoffs. Or win a playoff series. Or go the the Stanley cup final?

There is just no explanation for this. It's unreal. Nobody thought it would happen. They were dead last in pre season rankings for a reason. You simply can't explain this success. And they were no let handed this to them. It's unreal.

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21 May 2018 17:12:04
I have to disagree somewhat Yup.
The expansion draft was a little more generous than the last wave of Expansion.
Then again, I may jus be jealous cause this team puts mine to shame. and the coach. shoulda been Habs coach IMO.

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21 May 2018 17:59:09
They got James Neal and fleury in an expansion draft. That's not generous. Let alone some of the others. Some of it was gms panicking. And the reason they were supposed to be bad was because they are an expansion team not many people looked at the players to make an assessment.

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21 May 2018 19:14:33
Umm I’ll take Dumba over Tuch and Haula anyday that was a good move on Minnesota’s part. No one anticipated the break out of Willam Karlsson but Columbus made the right choice at the time picking Ryan Murray over him although Karlsson is better now. Now the Florida deal was terrible.

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21 May 2018 23:15:52
@VB

I would too, but why in hell would Minny leave Dumba unprotected then? If they went for 3D it should have been Dumba, Suter and Spurgeon, with Brodin as an exception.

Chuck Fletcher was really stupid that day, as was Dale Tallon. Kekalinen didn't too bad, WKarlsson never showed any sort of brilliance, but I mean, they gave up a 1st and a 2nd for Vegas to take him and dump Clarkson, and avoid taking Josh Anderson or Jack Johnson, but really, they shouldve given up a 1st and a 2nd to take some AHL lifer and dump Clarkson. Giving up Karlsson looked kinda silly then because they couldve just made Vegas take some AHL nobody like Winnipeg did w Chris Thorburn, but instead gave up a roster player who is now tye star of Vegas.

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22 May 2018 03:12:08
Las Vegas had the leverage they probably forced them to give Karlsson.

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21 May 2018 00:24:05
From Mark Easson on My nhl trade rumors and Joe Haggarty on NBC, the Bruins want secondary scoring and to get larger on LHD:

BOS: Wayne Simmonds ($3.975MM until 2019) %50 retained, Morin (NHL ready defenceman that would've been at the NHL level but for Sanheim and injury, 6'6", 227 lbs)
PHI: Zboril, Jakob Forsbacka Karlsson, 2018 FLA 3rd

Easson mentioned Simmonds specifically and would be great on the Bruins 2nd PP. Sam Morin is only 3 inches and 25 lbs lighter than Chara. Both PHI players fill BOS needs.

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21 May 2018 12:55:12
Zboril and Karlson and the third isn't getting you Simonds alone so your not getting Morin on top of that. I actually value more Morin then Zboril because although Morin is taking time to develop he is developing and improving every year and if he plays full time in the nhl next season, people will be surprise by what he does on the ice. he's the next Cris Pronger.

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21 May 2018 13:46:57
“ Morin is the next Chris Pronger “ that is just a silly stament I’m willing to bet anything that Morin dosent even touch a Norris trophy let alone a Heart Trophy. Connor Carick is the next Paul Coffey.

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21 May 2018 23:49:31
Morin will not be a norris trophy winner but a shutdown defence carrick would be lucky to be in the league in a couple of years flyers d in two years ghost provorov sandheim myers morin hagg solid 1/ 6 and hart in net no need for d unless its carlson 8m / 7y gudas would then need to be dealt.

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22 May 2018 03:13:34
Chris Pronger is one of the best dman of all time. Morin won’t be half the player.

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21 May 2018 00:18:02
After seeing Larsson and oel play together oilers must see the value?

Offer klefbom or nurse and 1st pick plus a young forward yamamoto or benson..

May be much to pay but oel and Larsson has chemistry and Will be a top pair D in nhl

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20 May 2018 21:13:51
Minn could used an offence defencemen.
Flyers need another rhd
Minn gets gostisbehere tomek
Flyers dumba

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20 May 2018 20:49:22
Nine teams will receive cap penalties next season due to bonus overages.

Toronto $2.55M
Chicago $1.23M
Vancouver $850K
Boston $775K
Detriot. $750K
St. Louis $150K
Tampa $140K
Washington. $80K
Minnesota $40K.

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20 May 2018 05:08:55
2018 Top 10 Mock Draft With Trades

1. Buffalo Sabres// Ramus Dahlin
2. Carolina Hurricanes// Andrei Svechnikov
3. Montreal Canadiens// Filip Zadina
4. Ottawa Senators// Matthew Tkachuk
5. Arizona Cayotes// Adam Boqvist
6. Detroit Red Wings// Oliver Wahlstorm
7. Vancouver Canucks// Noah Dobson
8. Chicago Blackhawks// Evan Bouchard
9. New York Rangers// Quinn Hughes
10. New Jersey // Jesper Kotaniemi

Trade:
Oilers
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Sami Vatanen
17th overall pick
110th overall pick (4th round)
141st overall pick (5th round)
New Jersey Devils:
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10th overall pick
164th overall pick (6th round)

Note:
Oilers select Calen Addison with the 17th overall.

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20 May 2018 13:27:18
Ridiculous proposal New Jersey won’t trade their best dman straight up for that package.

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22 May 2018 05:53:55
Flames are gunna throw a fit when Senators announce that pick.

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19 May 2018 23:34:06
This is a post comparing Jake Gardiner of the Toronto Maple Leafs to Justin Faulk of the Carolina Hurricanes.

Offensive Production for the 2017-2018 season

Jake Gardiner- 82GP 5G 47A 52P TOI 22:32 TOI/PP 2:04

Justin Faulk- 78GP 8G 23A 31P TOI 22:16 TOI/PP 2:56

Offensive Production for the 2016-2017 season

Jake Gardiner-82GP 9G 34A 43P +26

Justin Faulk- 75GP 17G 20A 37P -18

As you can see statistically Gardiner is the superior player offensively and Faulk is regressing while Gardiner is improving. Faulk has the Supirior goal scoring ability but his stats are inflated due to supirior exposure to the top PP compared to Gardiner.

Defensive statistics

Gardiner- +9

Faulk- -26

Jake Gardiner proves to be the superior defensive dman by far according to advanced statistics. I'll give you guys a link to compare the two. Please visit Hockeyrefernce.com to view advanced statistics.

So according to statistics Jake Gardiner is a top pairing dman and is far superior to Faulk. Now I'm sure if someone attempts to argue they'll bring up points such as "+- is a team stat" " Toronto is much Better then Carolina " "advanced stats are overrated ". But statistics prove that the only thing Faulk is better at is scoring on the PP. also Faulk was sheltered under a stud top line of Slavin and Pesce. While Gardiner was started mostly in the D Zone. Also his D partner Hanfin is much superior then Zaitsev.

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20 May 2018 00:33:55
I’m not one for it, but I’d look at HERO/ WAR charts for defensive stats. Idk what they are on either, but they provide a much clearer defensive idea of a player than plus minus, imo.

However, I do agree that Gardiner is given a lot of slack and has recieved hugely negative feedback for what was, altogether, a rather impressive season for him. Don’t take me wrong, I’m not a ‘Jake Gardiner fan’, I’d prefer him to be traded, but the only reason for that is because Torontos defensive core is literally full of players like him, Dermott, Zaitsev, Rielly, etc. But people, and especially Leaf fans treat him he's like worth a meh pick and a couple of roster throwaway because of his poor play in game seven. Overall, for his seasons play, he is worth a pretty good amount - and teams in dire need of PP dmen (Edmonton, Montreal, Detroit, Rangers, Chicago, Vancouver) could certainly use him and may give up a decent amount for him.

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20 May 2018 01:27:00
So I took a look at these advanced stats:
Hits: Faulk (77 more)
Blocks: Gardiner (13 more)
Takeaways: Faulk (44 more)
Giveaways: Faulk (39 less)
Possession stats:
Corsi: Faulk (5% better)
Fenwick: Faulk (4.6% better)
Shots: Faulk (78 more)
Shooting %: Equal

Based on this I’m not sure what you mean Gardiner is superior defensively. I agree Gardiner is far and away better offensively. But defensively Faulk shows he’s a very good d man and Gardiner is average if not below.

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20 May 2018 02:08:11
I agree Hero charts are much better then +- but I just didn’t wanna type out all those stats lol that’s why I gave a suggested link.

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20 May 2018 12:31:12
Shots, hits aren’t really defensive numbers but i didn’t think the such close stats meant much. ( corsi and fenwick ) Also didn’t really look at the Takeaway/ giveaway ratio that’s Gardiners biggest fault. Gardiner is still the better dman. Yup would you like to chip in it seems like you have a lot to say.

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21 May 2018 00:45:00
Overall I would agree that gardiner is slightly better I've been saying faulk is overrated for years.

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18 May 2018 14:26:33
Explain to me how Ceci not worth a 1st but krug for 10th overall rumors are surfacing on more reliable sites than this?

Truth is krug is not much better than Ceci just had better defence partner for a number of years that made him look good. krug played with chara as opposed to Ceci playing with either Phaneuf or Cowan the entire time.

If that deal happens then no doubt Ceci value goes way up.

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18 May 2018 16:28:30
Krugs main defence partner that apparently "made him look good" was adam Mcquaid. Krugs just an offensive dynamo.

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18 May 2018 17:41:34
Yeah. Krug has not been sheltered or made look good by his partner lol I haven’t really noticed ceci being bad like some people have said, but in all the years of watxhinhim face the leafs, he’s never overly impressed me either. Krug was a game changer in the series this year against the leafs.

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18 May 2018 17:52:08
What? Krug is better than Cici tho. Like, it's not even questionable. Unless your a complete homer.
Ohhhhh, you are a complete homer so I understand why you would post this now.

Also, It's a rumor out of a Boston meadow guy saying he thinks Boston should try and trade Krug + for Klefbom, 10th overall.
Depending on that plus, I say F no. I was a better D than Krug (and I like Krug) for Klefbom and 10th (like adding a smaller piece for OEL, Risto type, someone slightly better than Krug anyways) . That plus better be pretty good to get Klefbom and 10th. IMO.

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18 May 2018 18:24:07
Maybe cause Krug is much, much, much better than Ceci. Krug is a top line d man bordering on (If not already) elite and Ceci is at best a #4 d man.

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18 May 2018 20:21:05
You’ve lost it Rambo.

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19 May 2018 00:00:42
In what universe is krug an elite top 2 defenceman? Lmao.

Yes he's good and yes he's a bit better than Ceci but not by so much that he warrent a top 10 return and Ceci can't crack a 1st rounder return. sorry but you are incorrect xcing and it's painfully obvious.

AND numbnutz what games were you watching? Every Boston game I've seen the top 2 dpairs were

Chara krug
Mcquade seidenburg

At least since boychuck was snapped away from them. and before that krug was nothing special but sure he looked promising at the same time Ceci coming off a great personal year and starting to look promising again in his own right's.

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19 May 2018 02:46:28
Krug become an elite d man when he got 50+ points last year then finished 15th in Norris voting and then proceeded to top that the next year with 59 points in less than 80 games (9th in D man scoring) . All while putting up fantastic advanced stats. Krug is most definately a top pair d man on almost every team.

Cody Ceci on the other hand had an astounding 19 points. But wait I hear you screaming that’s not what he’s good for. so what is he good for? His defence? All of his advance stats show that he is terrible defensively (not just this year) . But wait look at all that potential. oh wait he’s 25, not much of that left. He’s at best a #4 d man like I said before.

Ceci shouldn’t be considered close to as good as Krug and I truly hope you’re trolling.

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19 May 2018 04:06:07
Hahahahahahaha. You're a clueless homer and its painfully obvious. It's hilarious really. Too good.

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19 May 2018 05:48:11
I don't know if anyone else here looks at HERO charts but it puts grades players out on their advanced stats and rates to compare them to other players and archetypes. Uses 3 years of data. doesn't have last years yet but from 14-15 to 16-17 Krug and Ceci aren't even close. In fact Krug compares to a bonafide #1 dman by their comparison and Ceci is below 3rd pair in shot generation and suppression (although goals/ 60 were high due to his low ice time and first assits/ 60 were just above average 3rd pair)

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19 May 2018 13:31:06
NoBias, you know that Seidenberg is an Islander right? And you know that Bostons dcore is

Chara - McAvoy
Krug - Miller
Carlo - Grzelcyk

Lol.

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19 May 2018 17:25:24
Hahahahahahahaha. Krug playing with Seidenberg. Man that's awesome. Clueless, Like I said.

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19 May 2018 21:47:15
Yup, you should have read that I say char was krug partner not seidenburg. and mccavoy only burst on to the scene really part way through this year.

Also kind've tough for Ceci to stand out any more that he did when he traded a lamp post for a pilon over the last few years in Cowan for Phaneuf both of which he had to carry and did a great job of by the way. give him a real partner and see what happens.

Not saying hell be better that krug but definately better than you guys give him credit for.

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20 May 2018 00:35:07
Seidenberg is an Islander, has been for the past two years. that's the second time I've said it. And what quantum realm do you live in, McAvoy has been a Bruin this entire year.

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21 May 2018 20:36:50
That seids comment really made me chuckle. Also as TopShelf said McAvoy has been playing for Boston since last years playoffs. At this point i can't tell if the guys joking or not but i found some good entertainment in it.

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18 May 2018 04:57:54
Zadina - Tavares - Kovalchuck
Will be such a good top line for Montreal next season. Could happen.

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18 May 2018 14:18:30
Keep dreamin.

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18 May 2018 17:52:33
Hahahahahaha. Ok Rambo, This is MY dream. Yup. 😂😂😂😂.

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19 May 2018 00:05:27
Tavares won't be a hab and after the Olympic walk off anthem situation do you honestly think kovi gets any offers from any Canadian team let alone one of the biggest fan bases in the world espessially at his age? Not likely.

Zadina sure they prob will draft him but the other 2 you might as well stick to nhl video games dude because you have no grasp on reality.

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19 May 2018 04:07:01
Hahahahaha. I was trolling Montreal fans here Rambone.
And it's YOU that has never had a grasp on reality. That's hilarious.

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21 May 2018 00:46:19
Zadina drouin and Tavares would be fine with me lol. No need for kovalchuk.

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17 May 2018 22:02:34
Carolina wants to 'blow it up'. Well, heres a very unrealistic idea:

Jeff Skinner (LW; 5.725 Million x 1 Year; Contract Extension; 6.25 Million x 5 Years) + Trevor van Riemsdyk (D; RFA; Contract Extension; 2.00 Million x 2 Years) + Aleksi Saarela (0.75 Million x 2 Years) to the San Jose Sharks in exchange for Logan Couture (C; 6.00 Million x 1 Year; Contract Extension; 6.75 Million x 5 Years) + Joonas Donskoi (RW; 1.90 Million x 1 Year) .

Pretty much a swap of a centre for a left-wing, with additional parts being apart of the deal in order to compensate for value. I'd say that Couture has more value than Skinner based on his past year, his position, and Carolina's need for a centre, and that's why Saarela and TVR may seem like an overpayment for Donskoi. I think this trade helps both teams, as San Jose is stacked down the middle (Joe Thornton - albeit, he may retire soon; Joe Pavelski is a dual C/ W, Tomas Hertl, Melker Karlsson and Chris Tierney, and they could use wingers more than such. Carolina desperately needs centres, and thus, trade away their best offensive player for a #1 C.

Carolina Lineup:

Sebastian Aho - Logan Couture - Teuvo Teravainen
Phil Di Giuseppe - Jordan Staal - Justin Willliams
Elias Lindholm - Victor Rask - Joonas Donskoi
Joakim Nordstrom - Nicolas Roy - Valentin Zykov

Justin Faulk - Noah Hanifin
Brett Pesce - Jaccob Slavin
Roland McKewon - Haydn Fleury

San Jose Lineup (assuming they manage to resign Kane/ Thornton)

Jeff Skinner - Joe Pavelski - Mikkel Boedker
Evander Kane - Joe Thornton - Kevin Labanc
Timo Meier - Tomas Hertl - Jannik Hansen
Marcus Sorensen - Chris Tierney - Melker Karlsson

Joakim Ryan - Brent Burns
Marc-Edouard Vlasic - Justin Braun
Trevor van Riemsdyk - Brendan Dillon.

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18 May 2018 00:42:42
I'd bet Pavelski and Couture are the untouchables for San Jose forwards. Especially with old balls - crippled - 1 year deal at a time Thornton. Lol.

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18 May 2018 17:04:27
Such a lack of respect for one of the best long lasting centers of this generation.

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18 May 2018 17:55:10
Where was the disrespect?
I'm saying from a hockey standpoint, why trade away one of your younger better forwards and have an older guy who's had surgeries on both legs the last two seasons step into number 2 role, He's not that guy anymore.
I actually highly respect him, But thinking as a GM, I would never trade Couture away and expect Thornton to take that role. That's just so bad. Even tho he's a massive important part to the team. You took my comment the wrong way I guess.

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18 May 2018 18:02:36
I never disrespected him. He is actually old. He is actually injured a lot. And he is actually signing one year deals.

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