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25 Feb 2019 17:10:09
I have a feeling Habs might trade Arturi lehkonen today.

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25 Feb 2019 17:48:16
Dont say that! lol. I like that guy.

25 Feb 2019 18:44:48
I like him as well, if they do, I hope its going to be worth it. In a deal to replace Mike Reilly.

25 Feb 2019 20:24:23
Thats what I was my thinking Sosa I thought they might package him for a dman.

25 Feb 2019 22:21:52
Didnt happen . Well at least Chaput is gone hey Habby? Lol.
Glad Bergevin didn't do anything crazy today.

26 Feb 2019 00:03:02
Jordan weal isn't a big pickup but he is still an upgrade over Chaput. One thing I noticed from weal over the years is he seems pretty good at carrying the puck into the offensive zone maybe he will get a shot on the power play in Montreal. Good speed and solid face off man.

24 Feb 2019 02:51:10
Remember that post I made about when one team gets a couple penalties in a row the other team will get the next one or two? Sometimes it sucks to be right lol

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24 Feb 2019 04:17:30
Habs quit playing after the first for some reason. They deserved to lose that one. They coulda sealed that game if they had any kind of PP. sure they scored one, but that PP is atrociously bad. going to cost em a playoff spot I think.
However, on the positive, they can play with Leafs, if they woulda kept up there play, and the bad bounce, they coulda won.
Even if Habs had an average PP, makes me wonder how many more points they may have? I'm sure a few of those 1 goal games coulda been won with a decent PP.

24 Feb 2019 04:33:49
Yeah special teams have been horrible it might cost them a playoff spot it we'll for sure cost them a playoff series. its a funny thing with the powerplay it's usually the only time in the game that they get out skated. And I mean why would you pull the goalie with 2 minutes left does julien not realize they have the worse pp in the history of the league like what's the point? They have a better chance scoring 5 on 5. I'm not about to say they quit playing as much as the leafs got a huge boost from those two awful even up calls they got and had all the momentum after that. especially after they made it 3to 2. And we'll that nylander goal was just pure luck at it's finest. I actually predicted the leafs would win 5 to 3 after the first period.

24 Feb 2019 05:06:18
I think the habs will be making the playoffs. They play a lot tougher than years past, I like the team. I don’t remember both penalties you’re referring to habby but if the goalie goes down because you didn’t avoid him, I think a penalty is almost always called. Anyways, the leafs were lucky to get 2 points and better make a couple moves. I forget who it was in the first period but I thought a leaf was going to break an ankle making sure they didn’t hit someone, lol. Slammed on the brakes instead of finishing the check. I miss the rough and tough leafs.

24 Feb 2019 05:44:18
Ya Leafs17. I agree ya need some Toughness on Leafs. they are an upper echelon team, but I think they are going to be to soft come playoff time. any, cheap 4th line guys you'd like to see Leafs add?

24 Feb 2019 15:27:02
We talked about the leafs defence being bad but it seems like when they get up for game like when playing montreal they look pretty good. We talked about them being soft but as it stands there is really only a couple physical teams in the league and if matthews tavares and others can actually play physical consistently like when they get up for a game against montreal then it's not an issue. So babcocks plan going into the playoffs should be to only show video of games against the habs and say everyone play like this. that way they should be physical enough, the d should be solid they will be dominant on the power play and when they need it the most they will get a powerplay or a lucky bounce. easy stanley cup.

24 Feb 2019 15:47:58
I think the only cheap addition would be on defense with McQuaid. I mentioned him months ago. I think Simmonds or Ferland will cost too much. With the talk of Dubas wanting players with term I can see a big trade that improves both teams.

24 Feb 2019 20:32:23
That Lehkonen penalty is what cost us the second goal and the game. Lehkonen was clearly avoiding him and it's like Anderson knew what he was doing when he went down.

24 Feb 2019 21:09:47
Tell me players don’t go down all the time when they’re interfered with, hooked or tripped. It happens all game long. Some get called, some don’t.

25 Feb 2019 21:28:34
Told you Sosa. It doesn’t get any bigger than Lindholm for Petan.

26 Feb 2019 00:04:47
Strange they didn't get Simmonds I mean Connor brown and a 2nd probably could have got it done. Maybe philly wanted to trade him out west though. Who knows.

26 Feb 2019 06:17:10
I really wanted McQuaid. I hated the guy every time the leafs played the Bruins but he’s all heart.

26 Feb 2019 15:45:26
Yeah the habs might have been able to get a win off you guys if you had Mcquaid. i was sort of rooting for that too lol.

24 Feb 2019 02:38:08
Habs PP is going to cost them a playoff spot ..

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24 Feb 2019 04:39:08
It's actually amazing it's as bad as it is. I can't for the life of me figure out how a team can get into the other teams zone almost at will at 5 on 5 but can't get in there at 5 on 4. Also why don't teams play them at even strength the same as they would on the pk. If they did montreal would never win another game. Just play the whole game like your shorthanded lol.

24 Feb 2019 17:33:33
So Habby, should they target a PP guy at the deadline? Or jus stay the course, continue to build.

24 Feb 2019 20:35:47
A top 4 left shot dman would help too but unless bergevin really goes off the board I can't see that happening.

24 Feb 2019 20:42:42
It's a tough call Sosa they are in the toughest position a team can be in going into the deadline. (playoff bubble) i think they have the right plan if they stick to it. That being only adding a player if he fits in long term. I would take a run at someone like simmonds if the cost wasn't too high and there was a chance of him signing an extension. He would be a good fit as he's always been good on the pp and adds enough toughness that deslauriers wouldn't have to play. But I'm fine not adding anything and if that means missing the playoffs so be it. Top 15 of this years draft look pretty solid.

24 Feb 2019 20:44:04
Mtl should go get a Solid LHD that can play on PP. Like Yandle type guy but not him.

24 Feb 2019 20:52:20
I'm with ya in that Habby. every fo me this year has been a huge bonus, they have more points than I projected for whole season lol. Only negative thing they have done all season is take em selves outta the Hughes/ Kakko sweepstakes lol.
2 guys on the D for me are not NHL calibre, Kulak and Reilly. , especially Reilly IMO., that I'd where my focus would be .

25 Feb 2019 01:20:44
Both are quite capable of playing 3rd pair minutes Sosa the problem with reilly is he has had to play 2nd pair. the habs currently have 1top pair dman 2 2nd pair dmen and 3 3rd pair. mete is capable of playing with weber so yeah you are right they need a reily replacement on that 2nd pair.

23 Feb 2019 21:46:47
If Peter Chiarelli had is own trophy would Pierre Dorion be the winner this year?

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23 Feb 2019 23:57:29
No. Chiarelli would win it again.

24 Feb 2019 00:27:45
Why is he getting so much hate? He had nothing to do with the Hoffman/ Karlsson controversy. Karlsson Trade was actually good. The 1st Duchene Trade last year was absolutely horrendous obviously but he got sellers market return for Duchene on the resale. For the most part since the start of the season he hasn’t done a bad job imo.

24 Feb 2019 04:03:00
He also has to work for the cheapest owner in the league, who undoubtedly makes his job more difficult.

24 Feb 2019 04:40:28
Yeah I think john chayka would win this year. Then again there is still a few days for a few gms to look pretty stupid.

24 Feb 2019 20:36:39
Are you for real habby? He just got less for Dzingel then New York got for Zucarello. Dzingel has 22 goals and 22 pass and he's just 26 too so he's a guy you can re sign. Duclair is Meh and two seconds is not even this year it's in 2020 and 2021. New York has 2 conditional picks that has a chance to become first rounder if Stars goes far in playoff and if Zucarello resigns.

24 Feb 2019 20:37:08
Don't matter who he works for, when you trade a guy like Duchene even if he's a UFA u need to get a young good player back. Melnyk dosnt care if the guy makes 2-4 million it's over that that's the problem. A guy like Josh Anderson or Wemnberg should of been in that trade.

25 Feb 2019 01:22:17
Why did you focus on me boom? Give the imaginary award to dorion if you like lol.

26 Feb 2019 00:13:01
It was suppose to be Vb lol.

25 Feb 2019 23:28:35
It was suppose to be are you for real VB not Habby lol.

23 Feb 2019 21:43:58
Incase if you haven't heard Paniran has Vancouver as one of the teams he's willing to accept a trade too and talk to in the offseason. A Paniran-Pettersson-Boeser line would be absolutely disgusting. Doubt they'll trade for him but a offseason move makes way to much sense also Bob could go there also. Right now I believe Florida and The Rangers are the front runners but I believe the Canucks are quietly in the race

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23 Feb 2019 20:44:08
Why are the oilers so butt hurt over the mcdavid suspension? Wasn't it a clear cut hit to the head? Or do I have to watch it again?

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23 Feb 2019 21:36:32
I definitely thought it was to the head and worthy of a suspension. Personally I thought it was bad because it was a guy that doesn’t hit very often making a hit on a guy in a bad position. He shouldn’t have made the hit. I think 1 game would have been perfect for a guy with no past or reputation. I’ve seen comparables get no suspension so I think 2 games was 1 too many.

23 Feb 2019 22:18:47
1 game would have been enough.

23 Feb 2019 23:16:41
It deserved a game like Ebs said. It’s Connor McDavid, that is why they’re so butt hurt habby. He can’t do anything wrong and gets picked on all game long with no calls. Poor Hitchcock had to go public a while back about it.

22 Feb 2019 23:23:19
I'd be suprised if montreal doesn't take a run at wayne simmonds

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22 Feb 2019 17:33:25
Duchene to Columbus!

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22 Feb 2019 17:58:14
I guess if duchene resigns and the Sens get that conditional pick it's a good deal for Ottawa. But eventhough abramov has been highly touted by some neither of the prospects they get back are that great IMO.

22 Feb 2019 18:48:16
A top-3 protected first, a former 3rd and 6th round pick, and a conditional first and if he resigns.

A bit of a far cry from the Kotkaniemi and 2 1sts that boy wonder Rambo insisted Duchene was worth 😂.

22 Feb 2019 20:16:12
Kind of a weak return by Ottawa IMO.

22 Feb 2019 23:14:18
If he doesn't resign with clb it's a hortible return as far as I'm concerned. But what if he resigns with ottawa this sumner? Lol.

22 Feb 2019 22:59:54
Doron is known to get weak returns for star players/ good players and that trade dosnt change this that.

23 Feb 2019 17:07:26
Columbus is also a team that could miss playoffs so maybe they took a little less knowing the first could be a lottery pick.

22 Feb 2019 05:44:47
Will Ovechkin eventually over take Gretzky on goals?

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22 Feb 2019 12:00:59
Even if he doesn’t comparing their stats is apples to oranges; when Gretzky played there were far more goals scored per game on average (mainly because of the size of goaltenders and their equipment, and their techniques) . OV would have a field day back then.

22 Feb 2019 15:07:29
If you could take him at 20 years old and magically put him in the 80s he would have averaged 2 goals per game at least. switch that around for gretzky and he wouldn't make an nhl roster in today's nhl. But we all know players of today's generation focus way way way more on conditioning which makes them superior in almost every way. So it's really not fair to compare different eras. the players of today are better cause they all worked there butts off to be better then gretzky lemieux jagr and guys like that.

22 Feb 2019 17:19:24
Well with all that being said, in that Era, OVI probably woulda been a large overweight man. and Gretzky, Lemuiex all those guys I'm sure if this was there era, would have trained like the players do today,
Not one player in this era comes close to the talent those 2 guys had.
Anyway? Was . will he break all time record.

22 Feb 2019 18:08:54
In his condition he wouldn't have been overweight he would have just been one of the biggest and strongest players in the league on top of having the best shot and being one of the fastest skaters. He would have scored 100 plus goals every year in the condition he is in. Would he have trained and practiced like he did 20 years later to become as good as he is? Not a chance cause nobody was at that time. Gretzky was the most dominant player in the history of the nhl but he was perfect for the era he played. Only in the 80s would he have scored as much as he did. Any other era and he wouldn't have scored 200 points a year. He would still have been good in a few eras but not that dominant. With his skill set that he had he wouldn't make an nhl team right now. Now posdibly he might have trained harder and gotten better but who knows. he was a pretty scrawny guy who wouldn't have a semenko type protecting him now either.

22 Feb 2019 18:15:18
Like I'm a biased habs fan and besides lafleur cournoyer Robinson probably nobody from the 70s would make an nhl team right now. and even lafleur probably wouldn't be as good as drouin is. Can you imagine dryden playing goal in today's nhl? I think guys like Orr bobby hall could play now and maybe even mario could have a ryan getzlaf type career but 95% of the players from the 70s and 80s wouldn't make the nhl in the shape they played then. everyone has gotten better and faster for the most part and they just wouldn't keep up. Gretzky wouldn't have 10 seconds to make a pass and set up a teammate for a goal now.

22 Feb 2019 23:03:27
@Habby, Lafleur with his heavy smoking and drinking definitely dosnt make an NHL roster today. And he's in my top 3 favorite player of all time with Rocket and BoomBoom.

23 Feb 2019 02:06:36
That's true boom boom but I assume with today's focus on healthy living and a much improved substance abuse program he probably wouldn't be at that now.

23 Feb 2019 18:16:25
I don’t know, I think if you put a old wooden stick in Ovis hands puts some old ass skates on his feet and 200 pound men 2 handing him in the back of the legs and grabbing and hooking him, I don’t think he’d put up the same numbers as Gretzky. In reverse I should think with the modern training methods, dieting and the vast improvement in equipment what’s saying Gretzky wouldn’t have put up better numbers than Ovi? There’s so much different in hockey now to then sure goalies are better now but so are sticks and skates and training and everything is way more advanced and better now than it was in Gretzkys playing days. Gretzky would still be a far better play maker he would still have better vision than ovi, things that
Can’t be taught and things that isn’t affected by equipment.

23 Feb 2019 20:36:22
But gretzkys vision was magnified by the fact in the 80s you could easily create more space and time. Compared to today's game as soon as you get the puck someone is on you. skill wise he would have had to improve big time to make it in today's nhl. not saying he couldn't have but in order to succeed he would have had to be a completely different player then he was in the 80s.

23 Feb 2019 20:37:07
Ovechkin skill set would have worked in any era.

23 Feb 2019 22:21:57
So would Gretzkys. and Lemuiex. I think in this era, Lemuiex would have maybe been better. those 2 he more talent in there pinkys than Ovechkin had. I really believe in the era, with the lack of diet and exercise that the focus is now, Ovi woulda been a 280 lbs man.

24 Feb 2019 03:45:06
But even at 280 he still would have been much faster then gretzky Sosa lol. It goes to show you can't really compare players from different eras who knows how they would have even developed as people in different times. They may not have even had the urge to start playing hockey if they were born in a different generation.

24 Feb 2019 18:40:49
True Habby. lol. Maybe Gretzky in this era woulda been an equestrian. lol. who knows.

22 Feb 2019 03:47:24
E.Staal has to go back to Carolina for the playoff push.

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22 Feb 2019 06:00:12
That's possible and interesting.


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