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24 Apr 2018 13:15:15
Mtl: 2rd 2018

Tor: Johnson

Mtl gets a ready now prospect that won't be given a chance soonwith the leafs because of they're depth. Toronto gets a 2rd pick for a player they picked in the 7th rd. Would they go for it?

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25 Apr 2018 03:21:25
Leafs wouldn’t no.

25 Apr 2018 04:12:52
I think Johnson is proving he belongs. The leafs have Bozak, JVR and Komarov for UFA’s. If any of them don’t return, Johnson should be in the line up as he is now.

25 Apr 2018 06:34:01
Lol. See a player doing well and want him.
I bet you've called him a bust before.

25 Apr 2018 10:11:20
You don't call a 7 rd pick a bust lol. If he does anything in the nhl you call him a steal or a late gem. If not well you didn't waste anything really to get him. So no never called him a bust. But ya he's doing good and I was wondering what it would take to get him . Mtl has to look at the other series going on right now and see if they're are young players that they can acquire with some of those second rounder they have atm. How bout this

Edm: Pul

Mtl: 2rd 2018

Is that better Yuppy Man?

25 Apr 2018 11:37:34
😳😳🙄🙄🙄🍻.

25 Apr 2018 13:57:48
He won’t be given a chance in Toronto anytime soon? Leo Komarov has been cleared to play for nearly a week and has been a scratch for 3 straight games and will be again tonight for game 7 in favour of Johnsson. How is playing in game 7 over a proven veteran not being given a chance to play?! Lol Babcock loves komarov and what he brings, so if he’s sitting him for this kid, you know they aren’t trading him.

24 Apr 2018 15:04:58
Arizona has many top young prospects but needs on-ice results next season. A top pick in this year's draft will likely not help; they need to shift talent from the future to the present. They also have lots of cap space.

Philadelphia's core cannot win as it's currently constructed with another first round playoff exit and a shakeup, not a retool or rebuild is needed. Although the pipeline has lots of prospects, the Flyers need to replace their core.

Philadelphia: Fischer and Strome OR 2018 1st (Dahlin protected) and 2018 CGY 3rd
Arizona: Voracek, Morin

Strome has struggled and can use a change of scenery. It's 2018 and he's still not an NHL regular. Voracek would replace Fischer and double the points production from that position. If Arizona wants to go big in free agency, Philadelphia can take Bolland's contract.

Voracek ($8.25MM for 6 years) scored 85 points last year, tied for 13th in the league with Marchand and Barzal, 1 point ahead of Tavares, 1 behind Stamkos, and 2 behind Ovechkin. He doesn't have the value that those players have but he's not some pointless plug. There's no room for Morin on Philadelphia's blueline but there is on Arizona's. He's not waiver exempt next year so he will be on an NHL roster.

Let me repeat, Arizona needs to start winning hockey games and become relevant to their fans. Years of top picks have failed to do that. They have done this type of trade before (Stepan and Raanta for a 1st and DeAngelo) and need points this year, not next or over the course of a career.

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25 Apr 2018 03:23:18
I don’t think they’re a Vorchek away from competing. That being said I think they’d consider Strome and Fischer for Vorchek.

25 Apr 2018 10:12:17
To make this contract apelling they wpuld have to retain. Arizona will start to hit the bar if they keep taking bad and huge contract. Sorry but even after a good season Jakub Voracek is overlaid because he is not a consitent ppg player and not even a consitent 70+ point player. At 6 million he could get you Strome and Fischer. At 8,5 million he get you Strome and that's it.

24 Apr 2018 11:00:52
San Jose Sharls signs Evander kane to a 6 million contract for 5 years.

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24 Apr 2018 10:23:14
Edm: Pul, Yamamoto

Car: Faulk

Edm gets a top 2 RHD without getting rid of any roster players. Would Carolina go for it? They assure a better future up front.

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24 Apr 2018 13:00:59
Oilers won’t trade both top winger prospects. Leaves them really really thin.

23 Apr 2018 12:46:51
Edm: 2rd 2018

Van: Gudbranson

Maybe Guddy can break the top 4 in Edm worst case he's a good top 6 RHD at the cost of a second rd pick.

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23 Apr 2018 17:44:09
I think Edmonton would go for a puck moving defenseman but who knows.

23 Apr 2018 14:31:33
Mtl: Gallagher

Edm:1rd 2018, Lucic(500k retention)



Edm gets local boy Gallagher while getting rid of themself of they're cancer contract.

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23 Apr 2018 16:24:18
No. This is not good.

23 Apr 2018 17:37:01
I think that’s a big gamble for Montreal. If Edmonton finishes in the top 10 in the league next year, which they should, it will be a late first and a terrible contract for a solid player that is a fan favourite.

23 Apr 2018 18:21:55
Leafs17, it's not a 2019 pick. It's this years.

23 Apr 2018 18:45:00
Montreal already has a couple big cancer contracts. and the last thing Habs should do is get rid of the 1 guy who comes to play each and everynight.

23 Apr 2018 21:19:00
No from Montreal big time Lucic and 1st=7th round pick. i'd say he has the worst contract in the nhl. 4th liner being payed 6 mil.

23 Apr 2018 21:40:28
Good eye yup. Bad trade.

24 Apr 2018 12:07:45
Regardless of my trade I like the part where Leafs 17 thjnks Edm are getting back on the horse ndxt year and be in the top 10 in the league. i'd say they're more likely too be in the bottom 10 unless they make this trade.

25 Apr 2018 04:22:17
I like how you don’t “thnjk” before posting. I’m going off the fact that they have the best player in the world and have accumulated a ton of top picks over the years. Saying they should be in the top 10 is not far fetched. Gallagher would push them over the top though.

20 Apr 2018 01:58:36
Is it possible that Ben Hutton could fetch a second round pick in this or next years draft and what could teams be willing to pay to get a Brandon sutter?

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20 Apr 2018 04:32:58
I can't see a 2nd for Hutton. yes he's young. however, I don't see a lot of upside from him. I think on a lot of teams he's a 5th or 6th Dman. or in the minors.
As for Sutter. he may fetch a 2nd.

20 Apr 2018 13:08:16
Suter may fetch a second? What? What did my eyes just see. After seing: "Sutter is worth at least 2 second rd pick" the pther day I just figured it was just Brocks / Ao99 being biased but after you a very knowledgeable hockey persona i'm wondering. Does Sutter has any skills that i'm not aware of? Or are you just influenced by Brock comments.

20 Apr 2018 15:50:38
Imo Sutter would have to be combine with a warm body to have any value.

20 Apr 2018 22:58:21
Suter is a cap dump without salary retention.

21 Apr 2018 01:51:50
Sutter is good at killing pks and has some leadership abilities that gms may like and he’s not too bad at faceoffs but I don’t see a spot for him as a center for 5e canucks next year or the year after as he’s being paid almost 4.5million and there seems to be some good center prospects coming up that would push him back to 4th line which would be a waste for him. I think on a really string team he’d be good as a 3c but he’s just overpaid.

21 Apr 2018 03:37:36
Sutter a good player heys over payed he's geting 4.35 mill canuck would have to retain 1.35 i think to make him attractive to othere teams i like the oiler use him his better player then boyle and they would be getting payed the same.

21 Apr 2018 06:09:09
Brock, man, The Oilers don't need Sutter, get that through your Head. Wow.

21 Apr 2018 07:52:12
Yea your right they got strome as a 3 line center real solid.

21 Apr 2018 09:02:31
Strome: 82GP. 34P. $2.5M. RFA.
Sutter. 61GP. 26P. $4.375M. 3 more years. NTC.

Lol. I'd rather Strome right now thanks.

21 Apr 2018 17:40:46
Ok so they get about the same amount of points the like i said canuck retain 1.375 sutter a much better at pk and faceoff and can play again other people top lines strome can't also he was play with mcdavid for part of the year what boosted up his stats.

22 Apr 2018 13:35:16
Sutter is a plus 8 and sutter plays the most pk on the canucks strome -4.

22 Apr 2018 23:25:36
Lol @yup
Brock is the new MontrealFinest except for the Canucks.

Sutter sucks. If you want us to take Sutter you can take Lucic without any retained salary.

Or give us Thatcher Demko.

23 Apr 2018 04:20:23
Oiler gm would jump all of him for a 2 rd pick if canucks retain 1.375 lmao.

23 Apr 2018 08:13:19
Brock. Your an idiot. Why would they bring a third or fourth line center in for $3M when they have hose positions already filler and don't have a need for Sutter. They would rather spend that money on something they need. Please get a clue.

24 Apr 2018 10:32:27
Yup comon man. Obviously Brock isn't the sharpest pencil of the case but man really? A flat out idiot just because his hockey sense is off? Your the one whos a idiot for judging somebodys intelligence by they're hockey knowledge.

25 Apr 2018 06:37:34
You're just mad bro because I call you out a lot.
Don't be a delusional idiot and you won't be called out on it. I was nice for a little bit when people were crying about their feelings being hurt. But the delusion doesn't stop. I just call it as I see it. Lol. Cry about it. You're one of the worst for delusion on this site so I can understand how you're a little hurt by some of my comments.

20 Apr 2018 00:45:31
Oiller drias bear 2rd pk oilers

Bruins pasternak macovy

Canuck sven gagner

Oiler 1 rd pick

J.p.mcdavid pasternak
Sven rnh gagner
Caguila strome yam
Lucic Khaira rattie

Nurse macovy
Kelfbom larson
Sekera benning

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20 Apr 2018 03:48:21
Jesus you are clueless.
Boston and Edm say no.
Edm laughs at Van.

20 Apr 2018 04:36:29
Brock. give it up.

20 Apr 2018 13:31:30
Nirse as first pairing is laughable. Should be a 4th-6th defensemen not top 2.

20 Apr 2018 14:17:56
Colt he was oiler best d for the last 30 games lol.

20 Apr 2018 22:59:20
God that first trade is brutal for Boston. Pasta and McAvoy for Drais and Bear? Wow, lmao.

23 Apr 2018 18:25:30
Yeah, bruins would not be trading both those guys at once. Drasatl has shown he’s a really good nhl player, he’s young and has a big contract. Same situation for Pasternak. But bear has shown he has promise and possibly a bright future, mcavoy drafted a year later has shown he can already play top pair minutes against top lines. Not even close to equal value. He’s a 2016 1st rounder vs a 2015 5th rounder and I’m aware draft position doesn’t always matter value wise down the road, but it does for the first couple years. Bruins passed on Bear 6 times in that draft, and they might regret that one day, but they aren’t giving you mccavoy to correct it haha.

19 Apr 2018 15:00:42
Asking Maple Leafs fan, what do u guys think of Kerby Rychel from his time in Toronto? I wanted mtl to draft him in the 2013 draft he reminded me of Alex Galchenyuk that we drafted a year before the way he played. Then when he got traded to Leafs I figured he was a bust but since he's been part of the candiens organization he did nothing but impress me. Could he be a late bloomer? he's only 23 and jas decent career stats. Plays rough too. Thanks for the feed back guys!!!

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19 Apr 2018 16:41:02
He could still be something but I think leafs management waited for him to prove his worth and it never happened. Part of the problem was he came to Toronto as a fairly recent 1st round prospect in a deal we flipped Harrington from the kessel trade. So he came in when the prospect pool here was just starting. Then he was passed by a handful of guys each season. So between him not grasping his opportunities and his opportunities being spread amongst a lot more young players, it wasn’t going to happen here. Although I do like that you admit he was a bust as a leaf at 21 and nothing but impressive as a hab at 23 haha.

19 Apr 2018 16:49:54
Coming in he was one 3-4 forward prospects in a weaker system that leafs thought could make a real impact in the NHL. But then Nylander comes over from Europe to the marlies, kapanen comes in, obviously they draft marner and Matthews who were never going to be in the same battle for a spot as rychel, but Connor brown develops from a 5th round pick, they trade for Zach Hyman. Soshnikov, Andreas Johnsson and Miro Aaltonen are all brought from Europe etc. He was just buried in the depth chart by better players.

19 Apr 2018 20:46:29
I wouldn't get too excited yet. A lot of players look good when they first get moved to another team. take sven andrigettho for example.

19 Apr 2018 23:50:37
@UnbiasedJim the reason I tought he was a bust has nothing to do with the Leafs themself. I tought the was a bust because he got traded for relatively nothing. Unless Harington had a ton of value at the time that I wasnt aware of. Why would CLB trade him for clost to nothing if he wasnt a bust? Nothing to do with Leafs honestly. i'm able to recognize the great talent leafs have even if i'm a habs fan thank you very much.

20 Apr 2018 01:09:15
No, Harrington didn’t have a ton of value. Much like what rychel is now, he still had some potential but a long shot to be what he was drafted to be. Rychel was traded from Columbus because he didn’t like the way the coach was dealing with him and his development. Him and his dad (warren rychel) demanded a trade out of Columbus. Once that’s done, we all know it’s hard for a GM to get full value when every other GM knows the player doesn’t want to be there. They lose the leverage.

20 Apr 2018 01:09:36
Lmao. Call 19 and 20 year olds bust weekly but now have one of them on your team and all of a sudden he's a late bloomer. This is hilarious. Such a homer.

20 Apr 2018 04:39:05
Lol. Good call Yup.
As being a Habs fan, i'd love to see this kid be good. however, like Habby said. they always look good. when they start.
I'd be really overly happy if he could be a 3rd liner for the Habs. but even that is a stretch.

20 Apr 2018 05:00:29
To be honest, I've always liked him. Drafted first round by CLB in 2013. I've always thought he has potential but just hasn't been given the opportunity? I think less than 50 NHL games played, Such a small sample size so I guess you can't really say he just hasn't grabbed his chance and ran with it. Maybe he isn't performing well enough in the AHL to get the confidence from the organization to get the good looks? As mentioned above, maybe he's just getting passed by others in the same boat now.

20 Apr 2018 13:13:02
How am I being a homer explain? And Jimmy Connor Brown was a 6th rd pick.

20 Apr 2018 13:33:32
I wouldn't say rychel being a third linee for mtl is a strecht. When you look at at we have up front if he plays his cards right he might fit into a top 9 role.

23 Apr 2018 18:31:55
Okay, brown was a 6th round pick, not 5th. My bad. My point is that he was passed on the depth chart by a lot of guys drafted far later than him, or free agent signings who were never drafted. That’s the reason they moved him. Never heard any stories about him being a bad teammate or having an attitude in Toronto, but after being like that in Columbus, I imagine it might have happened a bit here too after he sees lots of other guys getting call ups before him. Just speculating tho, leafs management does a good job keeping that stuff quiet these days.

16 Apr 2018 11:12:06
A good friend offered up a $100 bet that Leafs will win the next three games.
I said done deal.
Good deal or no?

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16 Apr 2018 12:14:30
You just lost 100$ yup's buddy.

16 Apr 2018 13:04:50
He must be a billionaire.

16 Apr 2018 20:27:28
Obviously your chances are good yupper. I bet the oilers would’ve won 4 straight.

16 Apr 2018 20:55:05
Actually, I’ll bet you $100 the leafs win 16 straight. Good deal or no?

16 Apr 2018 23:45:03
If he made the odds 1:1 then you’d be a fool not to take that bet being spotted a 2 game lead lol I just got 20:1 odds on leafs winning the series and put $100 down. Pays $2000 so worth the risk. But I wouldn’t bet $100 to win $100 on it when they’re down 2 games and been badly outplayed lol.

17 Apr 2018 00:42:31
Ya it is straight up. Lol. I would have given him some odds for sure. Leafs got to win the next 3 straight. That's pretty hard to do in any playoff series let alone Vs Boston when already down 2-0.

17 Apr 2018 12:06:32
I will give complete credit if the Leafs come back and win this series or win three in a row now. One down.

17 Apr 2018 18:47:26
Yeah. Never wanna be down 2 games obviously but good teams win at home. So you lost twice to a great team in their building. Leafs finished the season winning like 12 of 13 or something at home. So they can win 2 and go from there. But winning 4 before the bruins win 2 is definitely not easy. And having 2/ 3s of your checking lone (Kadri/ komarov) our makes it that much harder.

17 Apr 2018 13:48:58
Yup you should give him 33$ now and call it square lol.

18 Apr 2018 00:05:31
The universe well make it happen cause you a piece of poop with poop in his pants and no parent around to change your diaper / god hates you.

18 Apr 2018 05:46:55
😂😂😂🍻.

18 Apr 2018 18:28:16
Brock, are you in a special home that allows you 10 mins a day of computer time?

 


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