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18 Aug 2018 18:56:47
Eklblad or Paryanko
Jones or Dahlin
Karlsson or Hedman

If you're building a team who do you guys take?

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18 Aug 2018 20:25:49
Good tough comparables. I'm torn and all selections have there valid arguments.
Jones - Ekblad is an unreal pairing.
But so would Dahlin - Parayko. Lol.
Any combo of those four would be nuts.

18 Aug 2018 22:00:05
Yeah these are tough? Do we count current contracts or just base it on who's better?

19 Aug 2018 02:53:22
Contracts but assume Karlsson signs the same contract as Hedman.

19 Aug 2018 05:01:38
We'll he won't but I think I still take hedman. The sure thing in jones and parayko cause he's 2 mil less I think.

19 Aug 2018 06:02:42
Ya why assume Karlsson signs same as Hedman? Karlsson is better but he'll get 3+ more per year than Hedman. Hedman is a top 3-5 Dman in the league but it's his contract that makes him the most valuable imo, under 8 mill is a steal.

19 Aug 2018 07:31:18
He probably won’t but I just used it for sake of argument. Curious who you guys think is better if at the same contract.

19 Aug 2018 14:24:28
Karlsson. And I am about as big a Hedman fan as it gets. Karlsson is the better player hard to argue otherwise right now.

19 Aug 2018 15:14:50
Yeah karlsson may be slightly better right now but he's also older.

19 Aug 2018 15:38:08
Yah I’d say Eklblad ( I feel like he’d excel in a different system other then Florida), Dahlin ( not a sure thing but the potential is just so high. ) and Karlsson ( both similar in terms of skill wise but I enjoy watching Karlsson more. )

20 Aug 2018 06:02:51
Overall game. I think Hedman is the better Dman. Offense, no question its Karlsson. but all around. Hedman. I'll take Ekblad, Dahlin and Hedman.

20 Aug 2018 16:39:13
If I'm building I'll take Parayko, Jones (love Dahlin but Jones is established, young and still get better) and Hedman.

21 Aug 2018 19:26:00
Hedmans only a year younger than Karlsson, right? One draft behind anyway, not sure on birthdays. If starting a team I take hedman all day long because he’s bigger, stronger, still mobile, plays both sides of the puck like a beast and is on one of the best contracts in the league. That’s 6 years at 7.6 mill or whatever makes the rest of your team a lot better. Also hasn’t had a significant injury so recently like Karlsson. No shot at Karlssons value intended, Karlsson is great and seems like a real classy and good hearted guy. I hope he goes somewhere outside the Atlantic and has a ton of success lol.

22 Aug 2018 18:45:35
Yeah your right jim I was thinking they were two years apart. This makes my choice even harder lol. Now because of this I'm leaning toward karlsson. And my though process is also telling me if they both swapped teams how much better would karlsons numbers be and much worse would Hedmans be? It wouldn't be crazy to think karllson would have put up a 100 point season playing in tampa with all that talent around him.

22 Aug 2018 22:57:46
Yeah, any team would be a lot better with either of those 2, or any of those 6 actually. I’ve just seen a lot of hedman and Karlsson being in the division and I think Hedman is unbelievable and has such a well rounded game. 2 years ago Karlsson proved how well rounded his game had become too, but then I consider that he’s going to get paid a lot more, that little bit older, the injury and coming off a poor year (extenuating circumstances with health, stillborn baby, drama in locker room and at home with wives fighting) and I would bet on Hedman. Can’t go wrong or really disagree too hard with any though.

23 Aug 2018 05:59:00
Yeah you really can't go wrong either way but remember what vbbb said we have to assume karlson signs for the same as hedman when making our decision. if his next contract is north of 10 mil per which we assume it will be then I take hedman for sure.

23 Aug 2018 15:15:00
Okay yeah, at 7x8mill, that makes Karlsson an easier one lol.

17 Aug 2018 16:07:47
Panarin might walk at the end of the year. But Columbus is in win now mode, it doesn't make sense to trade him for futures and he's the type of player theyd need back. Its better to have him play out the season and walk, or move him at the deadline if the season tanks, than to trade him now for depth players and picks. Its like Toronto with JVR last year and Tampa in Stamkos UFA year, you're essentially renting him from yourself at the cost of whatever you'd get for him and right now that's the right move. Its not like Tavares, Iles weren't winning anything last year.

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17 Aug 2018 17:19:35
I agree 100% with this.

17 Aug 2018 17:20:47
Good point, well worded.

17 Aug 2018 02:31:49
Hey madeindade, why doesn't the leafs just get Ekblad since Tavares was a dumb signing? Just sign him to a contract without losing anyone. Good deal? I don't care to argue about it though.

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17 Aug 2018 05:07:42
*Should the leafs just get Ekblad? I apologize for the terrible grammar McJ.

16 Aug 2018 02:59:27
To Columbus

Trouba
Petan
plus wpg 2nd round pick if Trouba resigns elsewhere

To Winnipeg
Seth Jones

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16 Aug 2018 03:26:01
PLD, Milano and a 2nd for Liane?

16 Aug 2018 03:49:32
No way Columbus trades Jones.

16 Aug 2018 03:59:40
Columbus won't make this trade as they have Jones signed for 4 more seasons at a very reasonable $5.4 mil per year contract. The Jets probably won't move Trouba until the 2019 draft as they will use him this year to make a run for the cup.

16 Aug 2018 06:11:34
No reason for the Jackets to move Jones. What incentive would they have to trade him?

17 Aug 2018 22:41:01
Jones has established himself as one of the best dmen in the league (right handed D may I add) . why oh why would they trade him (in general) for petan. and a 2nd if trouba doesn't resign with winn.

did you forget to add trouba to the trade proposal? even then i'm not sure clb do it/ .

18 Aug 2018 04:12:27
This is just so bad.

15 Aug 2018 23:08:59
matthews at 11m or tavares at 11m?

since they will make close to the same money i wonder who out plays who.

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15 Aug 2018 23:40:22
Idk ovie I want to say matthews will out play him and I'm sure he will in the last few years of tavares contract. But we have to remember the best player tavares ever had on his team was matt Barzal and he didn't really play much with him. So with better line mates he could easily put up the best numbers of his career.

16 Aug 2018 00:28:31
Take Matthews everyday! I thought the Tavares signing was dumb should have got oel (imo)

16 Aug 2018 01:25:50
I’d say Tavares for a couple more years Ovie. Was OEL available to Toronto? You don’t just get whoever you want madeadouche. Toronto would have had to give up a ton IF Arizona would even want to part with him. “The Tavares signing was dumb” is one of the dumbest things you’ve said on here. Everyone knows Toronto needs defense but you don’t turn down a chance at signing one of the top centres in the game.

16 Aug 2018 03:01:42
Matthews will get $12 mil per year and more if he gets to RFA next July 1st and Arizona makes him a crazy $15 mil per year offer which the Leafs will have to match.

16 Aug 2018 03:05:01
Can’t go out and get oel without giving soemthing ofassive value hence getting oel was impossible while Tavares was signed for free and he was kept out of other divisional rivals lineup so can’t complain there.

16 Aug 2018 14:38:27
Signing of Tavares dumb. first time i have heard that one.

16 Aug 2018 22:00:20
Mathews AINEC.

17 Aug 2018 03:05:23
i hope matthews outplays him, at least by the last 4 years of jts contract

i hope i'm wrong but matthews to me isn't there yet. he's not mcdavid, he's not ovechkin, he's not crosby, he's awesome. but he's not that guy yet.

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signing tavares dumb, you know nothing. biggest free agent signing since scott neidermayer and its dumb. you are the definition of stupid

vb, silly child, take your "another level" and "ainec" talk and shove it, you don't know anything other than whos younger and who most experts think have the most potential going forward.

from our fantasy for everyones enjoyment

8/ 16 10:47:28 AM A$AP VB: In this Keeper league I’d say

8/ 16 10:47:40 AM A$AP VB: 1.McDavid

8/ 16 10:47:47 AM A$AP VB: 2.Mathews

8/ 16 10:47:55 AM A$AP VB: 3.Liane

8/ 16 10:48:10 AM A$AP VB: 4.Kucherov

8/ 16 10:48:42 AM A$AP VB: 5.Crisby

8/ 16 10:51:03 AM A$AP VB: 6. Tavares

8/ 16 10:51:18 AM A$AP VB: 7. Eichel

8/ 16 10:51:31 AM A$AP VB: 8.Ovie

8/ 16 10:51:44 AM A$AP VB: 9.Seguin

8/ 16 10:53:24 AM A$AP VB: 10. Schifele

8/ 16 10:54:04 AM A$AP VB: 11. Pasternak

8/ 16 10:54:32 AM A$AP VB: 12. Mackinnon

8/ 16 10:55:00 AM A$AP VB: 13.Taresenko

8/ 16 10:55:11 AM A$AP VB: 14. Guadreau

8/ 16 10:55:35 AM A$AP VB: 15.Hall

8/ 16 10:56:57 AM A$AP VB: Key cuts-Malkin, Marchand, Kane and Stamkos

a top 15 fantasy list that doesn't include stammer marchand kane and malkin is all anyone on this site needs to see to take away all of your credibility that never existed in the first place.

17 Aug 2018 05:02:08
There not in that list because of age lol it’s a keeper league and Malkin/ Stammer are injury prone + are getting older. The black hawks are brutal Kane can’t do it him self and I’m not sold on Marchand keeping up his pace.

17 Aug 2018 05:09:51
Mathews as a 18 year old rookie out produced a 6 year veteran in John Tavares. He took the last place team in the nhl and transformed them into a contender. Yes I’ll take a 20 year old Mathews over JT AINEC.

You’re the one who said Rantanen>Schifele/ Liane.

17 Aug 2018 05:15:39
I had to google “AINEC”, fu*k I must be old. I agree Ovie that Matthews is not there yet. I said before that Matthews reminds me of “the magician”, Datsyuk, but even that is premature for the career he had. The way he strips people of the puck is amazing and he obviously can put up big numbers, but let’s see more than 2 years before calling him the greatest US player like vbb’s thinks.

17 Aug 2018 05:30:27
Wasn't a 18 year old matthews playing in Switzerland? how was that out producing tavares?

17 Aug 2018 06:05:34
19 year old sorry his birthday is during preseason.

17 Aug 2018 15:17:44
Ppl disagree that Auston Matthews birthday is during preseason lol I get that you guys don’t like VBB, but that’s rediculous haha.

17 Aug 2018 17:20:44
Lol thanks Jim.

17 Aug 2018 18:18:21
I say they are close this season and I expect (and hope) that Matthews will be better soon and that gap will widen a bit each year after. Both great players but o hinknits reasonable to assume that the team should get better years out of Matthews from 21-28 years old than from JT 28-35. It’s just natural, as good and as healthy as JT has been, that his game will trail off a bit because the league is so young and so fast now. Best part about the 7 year max tho is that we didn’t have to get him till 38/ 39/ 40 where it’s almost a certainty he will be a shadow of himself. He should be fairly productive for all of it and at 34 or 35 if his game is still good, you can resign him short term.

13 Aug 2018 20:46:34
Who would you say are the top 5/10 prospects right now?

My list (in no order)
Dahlin
Svechnikov
Petterson
Middlestadt
Necas/Tolvanen/Zadina/Heiskanen
Strome?(if he counts)

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13 Aug 2018 22:02:50
Maybe dahlin should be on the list but I would think right now the better of the prospects would be guys not drafted this summer. In order for this years crop to pass a guy like mittlestadt they would have to show something more this season. dahlin is deserving cause he's so hyped and went 1st overall and is as close to a sure thing as you can get. i'm interested to see what petterson can do he should get plenty of quality ice time this year.

13 Aug 2018 22:09:48
Keep an eye on Philip Broberg this year could be anonther dahlin.

13 Aug 2018 22:22:12
My order is an order not a lot of people would agree with but out of those people mentioned-
1. Dahlin
2. Zandina
3. Peterson
4. Svechnikov
5. Middelstad
6. Makar
7. Hieskanen
8. Tkachuk
9. Tolvanen
10. Necas
11. Ilya Samsonov
12. Connor Timmons
13. Robert Thomas
14. Cody Glass
15. Jordan Kyrou
16. Quinn Hughs
17. Jesperi Kotaniemi
18. Lias Anderson
19. Dylan Strome
20. Owen Tippet

I feel like I’m forgetting someone tho but that’s my top 20.

14 Aug 2018 02:58:26
I don't follow enough. but. I like VBs list. looks pretty good.

How bout any way out in left field guys? Someone ya don't expect. the late round picks who have picked up there games. anyone?

14 Aug 2018 06:08:14
I condemned vbb list when I saw zadina at 2nd that was enough for me lol.

14 Aug 2018 06:19:46
Anyone watch the Hlinka tournament? Crazy how good 16 year olds can be. Lol Raymond and Holtz I think were their names on Sweden were really good players. Canada and Sweden both had some really good D that’ll be draft eligible in 2020. I’ve never watched the tournament until this year so I don’t know how these kids usually are but I’m thinking 2020 will be a strong year.

14 Aug 2018 15:33:13
I meant disagree with lol.

14 Aug 2018 15:40:31
Zandina has 40 goal potential and like I meant to say a lot of people will disagree maybe Petterson and Middelstad could be better 2-5 is a pretty close gap they’re all interchangeable but I feel like Svechnikov is extremely overrated he is more of a sure thing then Zandina but Zandina has much more potential. The Red wings system will bring the most out of him. So Habby stop being butthurt the Habs didn’t take him when they should’ve. Just sit down and wait because I’ll bet anything that Zandina will be the better player then Svechnikov long term.

14 Aug 2018 21:02:13
Wow bold predictions kid. And it has nothing to do with being but hurt I'm quite content with who the habs picked. i just find it funny to have him ranked so high when it could easily be argued he isn't even the top prospect on his team lol. I'd honestly take michael Rasmussen over him and he isn't even in your top 20. Along with about 35 other players who are better at this point then zadina. on top of that you don't even know how to spell his last name. keep trying though you might get there someday.

14 Aug 2018 21:03:01
Ebs I really like bo byram as well.

14 Aug 2018 22:44:06
Habby2 yeah him and Robertson were I think Canada’s best D from what I remember.

14 Aug 2018 23:26:14
Alexis leferniere and jack hughes should also be on every list if it's based on who people think will be better instead of who are actually better right now.

14 Aug 2018 23:43:18
Does anyone know much about that Russian kid the wild drafted a few yrs ago kaprizov or something? I heard he was pretty good but I don’t really pay attention to overseas players.

15 Aug 2018 05:39:18
I thought this was NHL prospects? They’re both undrafted and my list is based of long term potential. You’re clueless ( no offence) if you believe 35 more prospect have more trade value the Zandina.

15 Aug 2018 14:44:21
Madeindade, yeah Kaprizov was a top scorer in the KHL and looks really good for the wild. I believed he’s under contract over there until like the 2021 season though so he won’t be in the NHL for a couple more years. He could end up being the next Panarin tho, who comes over a little older than most top prospects but still tears up right away.

15 Aug 2018 16:00:37
Vbb considering some of the things you have posted over the last few weeks I don't think it's a good idea to call anyone on here clueless.

15 Aug 2018 16:45:41
I forgot Kaprizov he’d be in the top 10. You can try to tarnish my credibility all you want but every thing I’ve said has become true so far. People don’t like my opinion on the Maple leafs so they get upset. The reality is Mathews is 20 and is the 2nd to best U23 player in the game and the leafs are a top 10 team in the game.

15 Aug 2018 17:11:30
Everything you said has become true lol. leafs are a top 5 team in the league maybe even top 3 don't have to be a genius to know that man. i'm not concerned at all about what you think of the leafs. Like there is no logical reasoning to even rank zadina over svechnikov the only real edge zadina has over him is probably stick handeling. ill admit there may not be 35 prospects who are better but I can also bet he wouldn't be in my top 20 svechnikov would be I think. I don't see why you have him ranked so high. His numbers were good in the Q but not elite level. For example petterson put up elite numbers playing against men. Similar to tolvenen who you have ranked 9th. Maybe you can tell the future lol but right now zadina is not and would not be 2nd on any other person list who has followed hockey for the last 3 years.

15 Aug 2018 22:57:43
Thank you @ProDepth I’m a closet fan of the wild just don’t pay much attention to the Russians it seems they either come and are pretty good or they stay in the khl or leave for the khl but I heard he was pretty good! I don’t know how old he is but I’ll just google that! Appreciate the response though.

15 Aug 2018 23:11:07
I guarantee he’s top 5 on any list and like I said the top 5 is interchangeable also Zandina has a Better shot, Quicker hands and is a better skater then Svechnikov.

15 Aug 2018 23:42:34
I guarentee you he is not. And svechnikov hands and shot are at the very least equal ( I think are both better) and the skating isn't even close. Top end speed it's svechnikov hands down.

16 Aug 2018 03:37:11
Definitely not ESPICIALLY not hands he has the smoothest hands in NA professional hockey FOR HIS AGE imo yes over Kane. Crosby has better hands but they’re not quicker go look at his puck skills. Now in the KHL Datsyuk is still the king. If you disagree okay but the one thing you can’t take away from the kid is his hands and creativity. Did you even whatch the world juniors? He may have been the best player there he was the pillar of the Czech team.

16 Aug 2018 05:07:18
Yeah he was good in the wjc. But there are reasons he went where he did in the draft and svechnikov went 2nd to say he is better at this point is sort of ludicrous. I mean what did he do over the summer to make up that much ground. you may like him better that's fine IMO they could both be good or zadina could possibly have the better career or they could both be busts. But I can't rate zadina higher at this point because the last time I saw them play hockey svechnikov was better.

16 Aug 2018 14:52:56
Idk how you rank Zadina above Svech. Scechnikov was the consensus #2 pick this year. And to say you guarentee he’s top 5 on any list? A lot of professional hockey writers had Zadina ranked 4th (behind Dahlin, Svech, and Tkachuk) in this years draft rankings. So when you throw in already-drafted prospects as well, Zadina is definately not top 5, although he is a very good prospect.

16 Aug 2018 15:21:00
Yes pro depth that's how I feel too.

16 Aug 2018 18:23:32
Most of the top prospects from other drafts already graduated tho.

16 Aug 2018 19:19:42
if you look at all the names said before in this post. there’s many players who have strong cases to be better than Zadina (most of them are better prospects) . Zadina has huge upside, I’m a big fan of him, but right now you can’t rank him above guys who dominated other leagues. Tolvanen and Kaprizov looking nice in the KHL, Strome did great in the AHL, Petterson in Sweden, and on a lesser note Middlestadt in college (although Middlestadt also put up a couple points in the NHL last season)

16 Aug 2018 22:19:40
I’ll just say this in the 2014 draft Del Colle was the consensus #5 pick and I don’t know if a lot of you remember but I said he was overrated and I hope he didn’t fall to the leafs. ( I wanted Ehlers another Halifax Mouseheads product ) and what happened? He became a bust. Granted Svechnikov is a much more polished prospect but in reality having watched Evegini Svechnikov with the screaming Eagles I don’t see a big difference in level of play between him and his brother and imo that makes me skeptical of his hype. But I’ll redo my top 10 based off potential.

1. Dahlin
2. Petterson
3. Middelstad
4. Zandina
5. Svechnikov
6. Kaprizov
7. Makar
8. Hieskanen
9. Tolavanen
10.Tkachuk

Also I just seen you believe Ransunnen will have a better career then Zandina. I have no idea where you get that idea they’re not even close potentials wise.

17 Aug 2018 00:41:01
Ok vbbb whatever man.

17 Aug 2018 01:03:48
I will add I didn't say rassmusson will have the better career. I just said I think he's better then zadina right now. guy was a beast in the playoffs last season. zadina was not.

17 Aug 2018 01:12:12
And I will finish by saying lol you said you ranked your list on trade value we'll just ask yourself would carolina really trade svechnikov right now for zadina straight up? The obvious answer is no. I don't mind you thinking he will be better who knows he could very we'll be. But he doesn't have more trade value right now I mean why didn't carolina just trade for him I'm sure detroit would have loved to move up to 2nd Along with gaurenteeing he is in the top 5 on every list those were the two most personic things you said. In this post.

17 Aug 2018 05:13:45
Well yes a consensus #2 pick has more value then the #3 Carolina obviously wouldn’t make that. I just believe Zandina will have a monster career and I’ll be surprised if Svechnikov becomes the Franchise player he’s projected to be.

17 Aug 2018 14:47:45
Svechnikov projects to be a Marian Hossa type player. Should be a solid top linebacker wing playing with Aho or Necas. (Unless the 3 of them become a line) . Carolina has a solid future with those guys and Fleury, Slavin, Pesce, Bean, Mckewon.

17 Aug 2018 16:01:02
I was out of this convo, but just read a few to see what was going on. VBB, habbys right about your bold predictions lol they’re very obvious. Secondly, Zadina wouldn’t be that high on my list either although I think the Wings got great value picking him where they did. But Habby saying petterson numbers in his draft+1 year against pro men were elite and that makes him better than Zadina because his was in the CHL against kids is a legit point but I don’t get how you can use it. Elias Petterson is a late birthday making him nearly an entire year older than some others in his draft class (like Matthews) . He put up really good numbers as an 18.5 year old against men in his draft year (Matthews weee better), and now he put up even better numbers as a 19+ year old (Matthews was already killing it in the NHL) . And VBB and I were out of line comparing those numbers to stamkos numbers because he was half a year younger and in the OHL. Well how can you then say petterson gets ahead because of the exact same situation? I agree with your viewpoint, but not how you get there, because that arguement was unfair a week ago. NHL players were being cut from Team USA world championship team for Matthews before he was even drafted and rules kept him out of the NHL, not talent. Peterson has been eligible to play in the NhL for 21 months and hasnt. Don’t want to start a big thing, but have some consistency if you’re going to call others out on it.

17 Aug 2018 17:25:16
Yeah they are I admited that but Zandina is one of those players for me that I notice every time he steps on the ice.

17 Aug 2018 19:15:48
But the comparison we made before was based on one player was already playing in the nhl and one wasn't. In this situation my point was neither of these players have played in the nhl yet but right now petterson would have to be considered better as he has put up elite numbers playing against men while zadina put up good numbers playing against mostly kids his own age. In the matthews/ stamkos comparison our argument was based around what they both did at age 19 and 20 where stamkos put up much better numbers at that age. but in all fairness stamkos was in year 3 of his nhl career at age 20 while Matthews had only played 2. Plus I rate the Swedish elite league considerably higher then the Swiss elite league.

17 Aug 2018 19:25:11
Plus he's pretty much only a year older then zadina and in my opinion zadina would not be able to match his production in the same situation this year. Now anything could happen when petterson comes to North America I'm not 100% sold on him being able to compete here at a high level yet either. we will see this year I guess. But right now I take him any day of the week and twice on Sundays over zadina.

17 Aug 2018 23:47:49
How are Zadinas number just “good”?

18 Aug 2018 01:27:42
Well a 15 year old in alexis leferniere posted about the same numbers. Only difference was leferniere was the best player on his team which made his numbers even more impressive.

18 Aug 2018 07:27:26
He’s also the most hyped prospect to play in the QMJHL sense Crosby and Rimouski plays in a more offensive oriented system. Zandina is currently the more dominant player.

18 Aug 2018 15:51:43
Yes but leferniere numbers for his age are elite. By putting zadina in 2nd of all the prospects in the nhl you are considering him as elite. When his numbers should tell you differently.

18 Aug 2018 16:00:09
His numbers are quite similar to nico hischer was. But you also have to realize hischer was also touted as being a better skater and a better two way player. Eventhough zadina isn't bad in those categories either he wasn't up quite to hischer level. plus he's a winger and hischer was a center which we all know how much you value the difference in that. Hischer had a decent rookie year and could become a ppg player someday but he really isn't being considered elite by many yet. And I'm not 100% sure he gets into the top 4 in last years draft. But I still think he might have a better career then zadina.

18 Aug 2018 16:27:32
I’ll take Hischer over Svechnikov in a heartbeat.

13 Aug 2018 12:23:26
I think Brady Tkachuk coming in to Ottawa right away has such a bigger impact then people realize, a kid like him, players love playing with, if he plays with Duchene and stone and develop chemistry Ottawa could be looking much better in a year, ik it’s a long shot and melnyk will some screw it up but I’m trying to be hopeful lol.

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13 Aug 2018 15:48:24
I’m not a Senators fan but I sure hope they don’t suck and give Colorado another good young players. If the Avs get Jack Hughes they’ll be scary in a couple years.

13 Aug 2018 17:58:26
The duchene stone tkachuk line would have awesome potential. i don't think tkachuck will have an impact any higher then the average 18 year old. He's not a mcdavid or matthews type.

13 Aug 2018 22:23:53
I expect to put up somewhere in between 40-60 points.

14 Aug 2018 02:45:33
I'd say 15 goals 15 assists bout 85 to 100 PIM I see this year.

14 Aug 2018 16:37:48
Is he projected to be better than his brother?

15 Aug 2018 05:39:49
Yes@ thunderturkey.

15 Aug 2018 11:36:49
Brady Tkachuk hired Craig Oster (his uncle) as his agent to sign his ELC. Craig Oster is also Erik Karlsson and Mark Stones agent. I hope this kid does well, but I have zero faith that Melnyk is professional enough not to somehow screw this up and make him collateral damage in a negative negotiation process with the other 2. I could be wrong, but nothing he has done as an owner tells me he will stay out of the GMs way and handle this awkward situation properly.

13 Aug 2018 04:35:18
So after this season season, Matt duchene is a free agent (ufa). He currently has a cap hit of 6 million, and is 27. Do you think the sens try to trade him (probably for way less than what they paid for him) or do you think they would resign him? They definitely seem like a rebuilding team right now, but they gave up so much for duchene I feel like there might be a lot of pressure on Pierre Dorian to keep him. What to do you think is going to happen, and what do you think should happen? Why?

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13 Aug 2018 05:01:55
I think he’s the most likely player to resign with the Sens.

15 Aug 2018 11:46:55
Out of the 3 UFAs next summer (Duchene, Stone, Karlsson) I think he’s the only one that might be there to start 19/ 20 season. That being said, I think he’s going to want a big contract, maybe more than he’s worth, to stay there.

13 Aug 2018 02:01:41
Yakopov said there is prejudice in the NHL if a team has a choice between a Russian player and non Russian player of equal value they will pick the non Russian player.well no freakin duh!!.i have nothing against Russian players in general but all through the years there has not been a higher percentage of lazy. Underachieving and attitude problem players from any other country more so then russia. This isn't being prejudice it's just a fact. Also when you think of soft players by country which one comes to mind. That's right russia. And on top of that which player is most likely to bolt to the KHL? Russia again lol. Come on yak tell us something we don't know

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13 Aug 2018 05:07:19
I agree with everything but the soft part. Sweden and the Czech Republic is much more soft in general.

13 Aug 2018 05:41:59
I would argue that at the nhl level they are not. but it's close. Years ago the swedes were probably the most physical country outside of canada. A lot of dirty stick work but they were not considered soft. they changed that for the most part throughout the 80s. not all players from any country are soft I mean just look at ovechkin. I just still think if a player is notoriously lazy or soft to the point that they are getting benched or traded because of it more often then not it's going to be a player from Russia. But considering the amount of supremely skilled players they have produced over the years it probably balances out.

13 Aug 2018 05:48:53
Idk Sweden was once considered the most physical country out side of canada a lot of stick work but they weren't considered soft. I just think if a player is notoriously soft or lazy to the point that he's getting benched or traded more often then not he's going to be from russia. But considering the amount of supremely talented players they have produced over the years it probably balances out.

13 Aug 2018 14:46:37
The first reply didn't appear to send but I guess it did so I tried to recap it with the 2nd reply lol.

13 Aug 2018 14:53:53
The sedins might be the softest players I’ve seen and they were once the poster boys for Sweden. None of Russia top players are soft. Yakapov is anything but soft or lazy. But the biggest waist of talent I’ve seen was Alexander Simen.

13 Aug 2018 15:54:20
The concern over drafting Russian born players is that if they are seven slightly unhappy they run to back to Russia to play in the KHL.

13 Aug 2018 16:56:53
We'll I can name a few I've seen first hand over the years kovalenko, berezin, and malahkov come to mind pretty quickly. As good as kovalev was he was still lazy lol.

13 Aug 2018 17:06:28
Sedins were soft but they had a great work ethic. And yes yakupov was lazy too.

13 Aug 2018 17:09:01
It's funny Malkin tarasenko ovechkin kucherov panarin all get top minutes. It wasn't because the coaches wouldn't play him it's cause he couldn't wouldn't play the system they laid out. The guy is talented has tremendous speed. But he has zero hockey sense and looks lost out there. This is him just not cutting the mustard.

13 Aug 2018 22:36:19
Ask oilers fans Yakapov might have been the hardest working player on the oilers at the time. He just didn’t have the hockey sense. If anyone on the oilers was lazy it was Justin Schultz.

13 Aug 2018 22:36:46
Not Justin Schultz sorry I meant Jordan Eberle.

14 Aug 2018 06:06:17
He didn't work hard enough to get to the dirty spots to score goals he tried to do the same thing he did in junior but it didn't work in the nhl. He skated around the ice like a madman on times and it looked like he was working hard sometimes but he really wasn't.

14 Aug 2018 06:25:40
I thought Yak was a hard worker. No hockey sense is true and I know you have to earn your ice time but man put him in a place to succeed. When he played with McDavid at the beginning of the season before he got hurt he was second in points and playing important late game minutes. And yeah I get he’s playing with McDavid it’s easy but actually not every guy can do it. Hope they don’t do the same with pool party, can’t keep a talented shooter on the third line with less talented players like they did last season.

15 Aug 2018 12:28:20
Yeah you can find examples of tough players, soft players, lazy ones, gritty ones, class acts and cheap shot artists from all nationalities. But I agree. Typically the most frustrating players for me are guys that have all the talent in the world, but pick and choose when to use it. Guys like Kovalev, Yashin, Semin (all Russian) . They could be the best player on the ice every night if they wanted and then something wouldn’t go their way and they would just mail it in. I hated seeing that. Jagr did it too before he went to the KHL, then his last stint in the NHL he was a different guy. Almost like he regretted how he had acted in his prime and was trying to enjoy every minute he had left in the league.

Not to sound like I’m picking on Russians either, I will add in that some of my favourite players now are Russian and I would never expect them to pull that garbage. Ovie and Tarasenko for sure. Kuznetsov I want to like, he’s so good and I like the caps, but jury is still out on him for me.

11 Aug 2018 18:10:28
Hey leafs17 do you think they win the cup? Cause I don't care to argue about it?

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11 Aug 2018 19:57:50
Not this year but thanks for asking. Do you think Florida will? Cause I don’t care to argue about it.

 


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