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07 Dec 2017 21:36:42
Van Sutter baertschi Hutton 2rd

Cbj wennberg Murray

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07 Dec 2017 21:06:59
Maple Leafs Acquire:
(D) Jon Merrill

Golden Knights Acquire:
(D) Roman Polak
(RW) Nikita Soshnikov
2017 5th Round Pick


- Merrill's played only 5 games this season, and has been a healthy scratch for most games. In Toronto, he and Carrick can rotate in on Borgman's side. He's surely an upgrade from Roman Polak, plus he is noted as a more defensive guy, making him a suitable player on the PK.

- Sosh hasn't played much this year with a deep Toronto forward core, but he could play 4th line minutes for Vegas. Vegas deals from a position of depth/ strength (defence) for a position that they could use some young help in (wing) . Polak isn't much, he's just a press-box replacement for Merrill. Plus, that's a decent haul for a guy whos just sitting in the press box.

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07 Dec 2017 16:36:27
The Habs can try to get Ryan Kesler from the Ducks. With the new addition of Hendrique move on the top line, and the near return of Getzlaf, Anaheim can be whilling to trade Kesler for younger assets. Kesler could be a good partner for Pacioretty.

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07 Dec 2017 20:59:14
So you want Kesler, Weber, Petry, Alzner and Price on the books till God knows when?

07 Dec 2017 02:28:01
Mtl) Drouin
Tbl) Sergachev

After a reflexion and couple of game played... who won that trade?

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07 Dec 2017 03:40:44
As of right now. looking like Tampa. I still think it's going to be a close debate in years to come. ita way to early to tell, but Sergachev is showing signs of perennial All-star. Norris candidate in the future. Drouin has shown signs of being a really good player. but not the calibre of Sergachev. In all fairness to Drouin. , it's a bit of a mess in Montreal, different linemates, etc.
I think I'm more curious as to what people think of his position? Should he play center? Or Wing?

07 Dec 2017 05:35:21
Tampa won this trade from day one.
The type of talent Serg being a D is, is a lot more valuable than That type of forward. You can find guys with Drouins skill many ways. Hard to find D men of that skill set.

But, I've been a big Sergachev fan since before he was drafted. My team was going to pick him and I was really
Hoping for him. I liked him as best D in that draft. Ahead of Juolevi. I wonder what kind of D man he will become in Vancouver. Serg, Mcavoy and chychrun all drafted after him too.

07 Dec 2017 09:13:33
So far, def a win for TB. But sosohabs made a pretty good summary of it all. And to answer your question, Drouin is 100% a winger. He should never ever be used at C, seen enough of him to be able to tell that, imo.

07 Dec 2017 13:43:32
Did you really expect anyone to say drouin? Sergachev is out scoring him, while being a Dman, is more than 3 years younger, makes 20% of his salary and has time to be far better.

07 Dec 2017 15:28:24
Tampa wins. MB traded our best prospect for another winger and makes him play center. *slow clap*.

08 Dec 2017 12:53:10
Do you think it was a great trade Keyhabs?

06 Dec 2017 17:08:45
Montreal trade LW Max Pacioretty & G Charlie Lindgren
To
Philadelpia for RW Wayne Simmonds

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06 Dec 2017 18:03:57
This one is interesting for both sides my friend.

06 Dec 2017 19:44:17
Not bad. Philly seems to always be looking for a goalie. Lindgren has shown flashes of being great and sometimes has looked very average. Simmonds I believe has a slight advantage over patches for contract and physicality factors. So pretty close.

08 Dec 2017 03:52:43
I'm not sold on this. Simmonds had always had better linemates. Patches hits 30 to almost 40 every year, with Desjarnais and Danault as his centerman. not disrespect to Danault., but he's not the calibre of player that Simmonds has had.
However, this season, Patches had looked disinterested at times. So, maybe it's time to change., but I jus see Simmonds as a winger who's a good 2Way guy but, his offense is going to sputter bad in Montreal. Philly would be good to keep him, he jus seems to be the prototypical Flyer.

06 Dec 2017 15:51:44
Arizona isn't going to be competitive any time soon and leafs need a upgrade on the back end.

Ari- OEL
Tor- nylander, dermott, kapinen and 2018 1st

Toronto lands a very good 2 way d man who at this point in his career I'm sure would like to play some actual meaningful games. Arizona gets 2 young controllable top 6 forwards one of which can play wing or center, good defense prospect who may be nhl ready next year and a mid to late 1st. Leafs may have to throw in a cap dump plus a puck depending on what Arizona's cap situation is.

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06 Dec 2017 21:02:47
OEL is worth a ton, this might be what it takes to get him, however if this is what it would take, leafs pass.

06 Dec 2017 15:20:56
Mtl) Pacioretty
Phi) Simmonds + 2d

Then

Mtl signs Schuldt

Galchenyuk Drouin Simmonds
Hudon Plekanec Gallagher
Lehkonen Danault Shaw
Deslauriers DLR Carr

Schultd Weber
Alzner Petry
Shlemko Benn

Mete sent down

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05 Dec 2017 19:39:48
Who is Canada's best team?? Leafs or Jets???
For me, I will give the Leafs the slight edge jus because of goaltending.. however if Helleybuyck ( however u spell it), continues to improve and play this way,, I'd have to say Jets..
Jets are a really nice surprise..I think Sheiffle is maybe the most underrated star in the game. And Wheeler..he jus keeps gettig better with age.. hmm .. maybe Jets already lol.. but..deffinetley 2 good teams..nice to see Winnipeg do so well.

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05 Dec 2017 20:56:49
I'm a leaf fan, and its close, but I give it to the Jets by an inch,

Our offence is better imo, depth-wise, but in terms of star-power, they aren't far behind, with Laine Schief Wheeler and Ehlers, as well as Bryan Little. Torontos offence is a little better thanks to vets such as Marleau and guys like Brown/ Hyman being better than peraullet, dano, etc.

Defence tho, Jets are better. Myers, Buff, Morissey and Trouba is unreal. Plus, Toby Enstrom is a third pairing guy. EVen if Rielly>Trouba, Zaitsev>Myers and Gardiner= MORissey (that is, IF), Buff, ENstrom and Chiarot >>>>>>>> Hainsey, Carrick and Borgy.

The jets defence is very deep, and hell, they even have Logan Stanley and Tucker Poolman coming up.

Goalie, i give to Toronto because Freddys more steady. HOWever, with WPGs edge in defence, i have to give the title of 'CANadas team' to Winnipeg.

Still, both teams can easily get greater than 100 points this year, and both can be cup contenders in the next decade.

05 Dec 2017 21:46:51
Both teams are building the right way. two of them look really good so far. there is still 82 games in a season but both these teams should play a few more then that this year.

05 Dec 2017 21:52:57
I’d give leafs the slight edge right now only because they made the playoffs last year when they weren’t expected to and look to be on their way back. Jets have had a good enough team to make it for a cpl years now but haven’t taken that step. Both look good tho. I’m a leaf fan, but jets are right up there with my favourite teams to watch for sure.

06 Dec 2017 14:18:27
I personally like the Jets a little more. Both are exciting Teams to watch but I have really liked the Jets top 6 and top 4. I hope no one twists my words and thinks this is Leafs bashing, and I hope no ones feelings are hurt.

06 Dec 2017 15:48:38
Oilers are Canada’s team, hands down! They have more 1st overalls than any team on the planet. If only the term was shorter on some contracts, they would be the perfect dynasty. Do you want to get back to hockey or keep being a sarcastic punk? Good job phasing chirp out by the way.

06 Dec 2017 18:06:32
Please stop bashing everyone Leafs17. You're hurting people's feelings. I can't believe all you do is bash bash bash. And then complain about other people bashing.

06 Dec 2017 19:16:33
No sarcasm there Leafs17. I enjoy watching the Jets a little more than the Leafs. I really like some of the Jets players. I'm sorry if that offends you.

07 Dec 2017 13:12:55
Please show me a time I’ve bashed anyone other than you or your other account (chirp) . I can’t keep up with you. Being a defense attorney must allow you to be on your phone all day. I work, sleep and raise a family so sorry if it takes me a while to respond. I’m ready to get back to hockey if you’ll allow it. My kids are more mature and less sarcastic than you.

07 Dec 2017 14:10:48
I can take the bashing, you don't have to stop. But don't sit there and whine and complain about me bashing anyone for anything if you continue to do it yourself, hypocrite. Some kind Hurt feelings polic or something.

08 Dec 2017 01:35:13
Im assuming leafs17 picks the leafs over the jets as canada's best team lol.

08 Dec 2017 04:12:09
Hahahaha. That's a safe bet facelift.

08 Dec 2017 14:08:25
I picked the oilers. I haven’t seen a jets game this year so I can’t even make an educated comment about them.

08 Dec 2017 15:09:53
Nice pick my friend. I hope you have a good day today.

08 Dec 2017 17:00:08
I’m having a great day already, thanks. My son just scored a beauty at a tournament in Buffalo. I hope you have a nice day as well. Just because a team is slumping, are they no longer the top Canadian team? They were cup favorites a couple months ago. Winnipeg’s defense is definitely the best, I guess it could be a 3 way battle for the top Canadian team. Only time will tell.

08 Dec 2017 22:33:47
I usually just look at who has the most points at the time, which would be the jets but the leafs right behind them. at the time of the oilers "being canada's team" comment perhaps they had the most points of any canadian team? Last year edmonton was canada's team going into the play offs imo, this year atm the jets are.

04 Dec 2017 21:33:18
Speculation of Pacioretty with NYR CLB PHI EDM LA ANA wich one is to most likely to happen and for who?

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04 Dec 2017 23:25:54
Maybe a 3rd round pick and a B prospect.

04 Dec 2017 23:29:50
Pacioretty would be a good fit with NYR and LAK imo.
A deal around Muzzin for Pacioretty would be good for both sides maybe.

05 Dec 2017 02:58:57
Not being traded is probably most likely to happen but out of the teams you mentioned I think Anaheim is the least likely.

05 Dec 2017 15:22:54
It is a hard one. problem is MTL is having a hard time getting goals. Then again, patches is a known goal scorer and not putting up the points.
I'll have to agree with Yup on this one, hopefully Muzzin but then possibly add a pick from MTL to get a decent forward prospect. Without patches, Montreal has no snipers.

05 Dec 2017 18:28:42
Not that beating Detroit 10 1 is an indication of this team. however. Did anyone notice as Montreal was flying all over, as they have the last few games, Patches was almost invisible.? I know he is streaky, but just seems the last few games I have watched, he's been about the most invisible forward. is he injured? Or is his heart jus not in it? Would be nice to see him get a center man.
Id hate to see him go however, as he is the one true sniper. i'm not sure how you replace his offense, as this little streak Montreal has of everyone pitching in, isn't going to last forever. if we did have to trade him
How about
Tanev and Virtanen?

05 Dec 2017 22:02:11
Sosa I guess that wouldn't be a horrible deal but tbh I wouldn't do it. I honestly don't see what all the fuss is about tanev. I don't see him as being an upgrade over weber or petry. And by being a RHD he would essentially be on our 3rd pair. virtanen is still young and still has potential but he really hasn't showed me much either. i think the habs could get a much better deal if they were actually shopping pacioretty.

06 Dec 2017 14:19:51
I actually don't think Pacioretty for Tanev/ Virtanen is a good trade for either team.
Gabby, look, I disagreed with Sosa and agree with you! We're friends now.

06 Dec 2017 21:31:27
You didn't actually agree with me I only thought it was a bad deal for the habs lol. but yup I must say I'm enjoying your new personality keep up the good work.

06 Dec 2017 22:21:50
Oh I'm so sorry buddy. I did mean to say that I agree with that you have Weber and Petry in the right side making big top 4 money and that you don't really need Tanev another top 4 capable right shot, in a deal for Pacioretty that is.
And Virtanen doesn't really make up for that. You did bring a most excellent point to this conversation.

07 Dec 2017 02:38:34
Why thank you for clearing that up yup. I hope to hear from you again soon.

07 Dec 2017 05:36:34
Lol. Indeed.

04 Dec 2017 16:01:36
Montréal can try to get Zetterberg from Detroit who are in rebuilding process. Could be a perfect fit here to end his career.

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