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01 Nov 2018 04:42:00
Noticing that Virtanen is starting to play better, getting some better numbers... glad to see.. I'm a BC boy.. but far from a Canucks fan.. one of my least fav teams tbh lol.( I'm way closer to Calgary and Ednonton than Van anyway..
I watched him lots in Jr when he came to play my team the Kootenay Ice.., he was a menace... damn good player.. although still not a star, it is good to see him playing well.
I really wanted my Habs to send MaCarron for him .. 1 for 1..lol. guess no chance of that happening now..

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01 Nov 2018 12:31:58
Was he projected to be a top six power forward or something? Now projected to hopefully become a middle six gritty role player? He was drafted pretty high wasn't he and they had high high hopes for him.

01 Nov 2018 14:20:29
He was drafted 6 overall in 2014 2 picks before Nylander so they had almost as much hope for him then Edm has Hope's that Puljuarvi won't be a total bust.

01 Nov 2018 14:44:48
Tor and Edm don't need to be involved in every thread. Let's try that ot for a bit?
I'm sure there's other notable compressions we could make. Like Strome in Arizona, Zacha in Jersey, or Dal Colle on NYI picked before Virtanen same draft.
Let's try and talk more about other teams. Might be cool for a change?

01 Nov 2018 16:51:41
Ya. I think he was projected to be a top 6 power forward. seems like recently people thought he was going to be a total bust. I don't kkow if he will reach his draft potential, however it is nice to see the kid doing alright.
He is still very young, and he may reach his potential yet.

01 Nov 2018 23:53:36
Strome was the mcdavid draft, not sure of the others. But yeah, there’s lots of comparable young guys struggling to meet the hype on lots of teams.

02 Nov 2018 01:51:36
He seems to be playing with confidence for once and finally using his speed and shot to his advantage.

31 Oct 2018 22:27:34
There's been talk of the NYR clearing out all UFA's for the rebuild. I'd like to see the leafs get McQuaid on the back end. He's a guy that plays nasty as the games get bigger. Leafs could probably get him for next to nothing and we won't have to watch Marincin try and play hockey anymore.

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01 Nov 2018 01:41:18
How did NYR get him again? He was from Boston, wasn't he? I was surprised when Boston let him go because that type a d man is great for a playoff battle.
Would be a great fit for Toronto and a playoff battle. Add some grit some of you on here want.
Good post. Good idea.

01 Nov 2018 01:51:18
I think that would be a decent guy for the Leafs. His foot speed isn't there, but he does have a toughness to his game that I think could benefit the Leafs.

01 Nov 2018 02:16:16
You could probably get McQuaid for just a pick too. 3rd or 4th? Probably 4th? Not familiar with his whole skill set but know he's a big stay at home defender. Third pairing?

I've read Kevin Hayes name a lot lately. But he carries a $5.18M hit. I think he would be a good fit maybe Winnipeg on the third line as a playoff rental. NYR would have to retain tho.

Zuccarello would be a good pick up for any team. At $4.5M if they retain he could bring them back something decent maybe. Might be a good fit for Edm come deadline if they are in a good spot, which very well could be looking at the pacific right now. Might fit nicely on Drais wing.

I've also read that Winnipeg will more than likely hang on to UFA to be Myers for an "all in" playoff push. The article noted that they may not be able to resign him as they have a lot of talent that will be getting paid this off season and might not be able to fit Myers and he may be odd man out unfortunately.

01 Nov 2018 02:35:51
I would say the leafs are going to go after Hayes, and what I’m about to say next is dead serious ok, this is not a joke.
I’m friends with someone who knows the leafs photographer. He said that the leafs are downplaying Matthews’s injury. You ready for this leafs Fans?

Mathews is actually going to be out for 4 to 5 MONTHS, not weeks.

I am dead serious about this, you can down play it, or you can just laugh at this post and shake your head, I would probably do the same. But I’m not lying, it’s bad, and the leafs need to lock up Nylander now, which is probably why they are downplaying it (my guess) . Or at least they need another center because we can’t have Lindholm as the third line center, we will barely make the playoffs that way

Again I’m being dead serious, go ahead and judge me but I’m telling the truth, if it’s not then you can rip on me all I want.

01 Nov 2018 03:10:09
Depends on what Myers wants for money if he takes third pair money then I don't see him leaving.

Also depends on what is happening with Trouba.

01 Nov 2018 04:26:55
I hope you’re wrong thermo. Either way they still have a Tavares/ Kadri top 2 and all kinds of money for this year. I wouldn’t let it change Nylander negotiations what so ever. A trade for a top 4 dman should still be a possibility. Obviously without Matthews and Nylander it won’t be easy but every team goes through sh*t like this.
Yupp McQuaid was traded for Kampfer and late pick I think. It would be real nice getting a dman like him if they make the playoffs. Could play Boston again and having him against his former team would be nice. I also mentioned Zuccarello in the summer for Edmonton because of his speed to play with MCDavid.

01 Nov 2018 04:34:09
Does anyone wonder if this injury is as serious as mentioned above. does that maybe change the negotiations with the upcoming Mathews contract.

01 Nov 2018 12:34:58
I think with him having that injury in the past, and now being out long term because of it, Matthews is going to probably sign either a bridge deal, or a long term deal that is under $12 mill.

01 Nov 2018 12:35:10
Zucc is now on the wrong side of 30, I would welcome him as a rental, to play with Drai and not offer him a contract after. I think he'll be 32 start of next season so this off season he will be looking for that last decent contract like 4/ 5 years $5M or something and someone else can lay that. I really wanted Grabner for McDavid and Nuge but Rattie had such a great seasons end with that line so they knew they were keeping that together to start the year. Drai is the one who needs a winger. Nuge and McDavid can have anyone.
Namestnikov is another Ranger I wouldn't mind at all.
Kreider as well.

01 Nov 2018 15:45:55
Always been a fan of McQuaid. I would like this move as long as that isn’t ‘the solution’. To get him as a 6th man with some grit, love it. Still need to get someone to play top 4.

01 Nov 2018 15:48:56
@themostleaf I wouldn't be shocked if this is true. if surgery is required on the shoulder most times that takes 5 to 6 months to recover from. it was a real hard smack so anything is possible. It would be a shame for him to miss that much time though especially after the start he had.

01 Nov 2018 16:05:54
A guy I work with said he wouldn't be surprised if it was a few months. He's has shoulder problems from hockey hits and 2 procedures done and was 5/ 6 months to rehab the one time. That's if it's as bad an injury as that. Wait and see I guess.

01 Nov 2018 16:10:04
McQuaid is definitely not the solution Jim. McQuaid at a small price along with maybe Pesce like some Nylander rumors are suggesting would be a nice start.

01 Nov 2018 16:57:45
I've had shoulder issues since I was playing football, and I was little skeptical when I heard 4 weeks. Shoulders are brutal to heal. took me about 6 months. and to this day, still have issues 20 years later. can't shoulder press free weights. sometimes it jus gives out., like almost slips? Anyway. I'm sure he will have way better care and rehab ect than I did. just hope for the kids sake it heals fully. and I can go back to not liking him haha.

01 Nov 2018 21:18:02
Manson would still be my 1st choice. He’s a stay at home dman that can put up points and will fight anyone. I don’t know that Anaheim would be willing to part with him but they are 24th in the league in goals for. With Perry out long term and on the decline, a deal starting with Nylander and Manson sounds great for both sides IMO.

01 Nov 2018 23:54:13
Especially after he wanted to play out thebyear for his contract. And with the start he had, was on track for a massive pay day. I don’t think this injury all of the sudden gets him less but missing 15, 20, 25 games could really stop him from getting more.

31 Oct 2018 16:10:13
Let me just say once players start to return to the lineup, Anaheim is kind of screwed.

Healthy Lineup:

Forwards:
Rakell/Getzlav/Silfverberg
Comtois/Kessler/Perry
Cogliano/Henrique/Eaves
Street/Steel/Kase

Defence:
Lindholm/Manson
Fowler/Montour
Petterson/Welenski

Forwards not included:
Ritchie, Rowney, Aberg, Gibbons, Blandisi, Ludestrom

Defence not included:
Larsson, Schenn

What do you think their plan is?

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31 Oct 2018 16:19:57
Sweet! A post about Anaheim. How refreshing.
They do have a lot of injuries right now don't they. Will they have to put some of those guys on waivers when some return from injury probably? Aberg was a good bandaid waiver pick up by them. Ritchie just signed an extension and I think he has a spot for sure.
Wonder which guys can be sent down without waiver and which have to be put on waiver. Losing guys for nothing (on waivers) always sucks for teams depth. Always nice to just send them down. The difference between one way and two way contracts right there I think.

01 Nov 2018 15:43:16
I could see them demoting Street, Gibbons, Welinski, Rowney and Lundestrom.

Kase would be in their top 6 imo.

Perry's not going to be back for a while, and when he does, I think he gets third line minutes while Eaves drops to the fourth.

So basically, i'd see their lines as:
Rakell-Getzlaf-Silfverberg
Comtois-Henrique-Kase
Cogliano-Kesler-Perry
Ritchie-Steel-Eaves
*Aberg, Blandisi

Lindholm-Montour
Fowler-Manson
Pettersson-Larsson
*Schenn.

01 Nov 2018 20:35:56
Who is this Comtois? Never even heard of the guy. And he's a top 6 on the Ducks? Cool.

02 Nov 2018 01:00:11
Maxime Comtois . was on World Jr wasnt he?

02 Nov 2018 01:54:11
Comtois was like top 3 in rookie scoring before he got injured. Was projected to be like Landeskog when drafted. His stock has been rising like crazy since he was drafted.
Also Steel was sent to the Minors.

31 Oct 2018 16:08:33
I still believe leafs sign Nylander eventually as I find it hard to believe he sits out the whole year. Also don’t believe the KHL is a real threat. However, as it gets closer to December, they will have to consider trading him atleast. A lot of the insiders have identified (using common sense and Dubas travel path last week) a few teams they believe at the top of the list with regards to interest in Nylander. Obviously all this is contingent on these teams working out a contract with Nylander.

Carolina - Brett Pesce makes the most sense all around. 6 years at $4 mill is a huge asset and being a 23 year old RHD, he’s the position we need most and the right age for our core.

Minny - Matt Dumba is the obvious one, but I find it really hard to believe the wild move him with his upside and a brand new long term contract at a good cap hit. That’s why I would think Jonas Brodin is a possibility as he is still young enough at 25, doesn’t do anything flashy but is.

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01 Nov 2018 15:53:17
Yes jim it's starting to get a little sticky. This is my honest opinion if nylander can be signed for 7.25 or less I'd never do a 1 for 1 swap for pesce or Brodin. both are good but neither brings anything really spectacular to the team. And what I mean by that is who's to say lillegren or sandin wouldn't bring just as much to the table in a year or two at a cheaper price. As a habs fan ( with extreme bias of course) I wouldn't trade juulsen for pesce or Brodin straight up right now. Both of those guys have had years to develop and get better and turn into impact players but when you really watch them neither are. they are good but not great. i'd want something added if I was trading nylander for either of them.

01 Nov 2018 23:55:50
You make some good points for sure. i just think the situation of the teams make those scenarios very different. The habs aren’t at the same level as the leafs right now and can wait and see with juulsen or liljegren if they had him. What if leafs don't get pesce or someone and in 2 years liljegren isn’t ready or just plateaued and you wasted 2 years of matthews, marner, Tavares, Rielly, Andersen’s prime not going for it. I don’t think we need a superstar (obviously doughty would be nice), but a cheap, solid guy that can skate and move a puck and be efficient at both ends would go a long way on this roster.

02 Nov 2018 01:53:07
Thing with if the Leafs decide to move Nylander for a D it's for one that can play a top 4 role right now this season and to make them a better rounded team, right now. Not in a few years waiting for Timothy or Sandin (just a bonus when they are ready soon on elc to make an impact) .

02 Nov 2018 10:26:45
It just has the makings of a Taylor hall for adam Larrson disaster all over again I think. IMO it would be smarter for the leafs to sign nylander and stay the course and add a dman or two at the deadline when more of a selection could be available. Now that being said if you can trade nylander now for a stud dman then go for it. But if Brodin and pesce are the best of what's out there now I wouldn't even consider it. Not straight up anyway.

31 Oct 2018 09:29:11
How many habs fans would like to see these lines?
Domi drouin lehkonen
Kotkaniemi tatar gallahger
Daneult hudon armia
Peca byron scherbak

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31 Oct 2018 10:21:33
Why would we put Tatar as center and Kotkaniemi as a winger. We should send him back to Finland before putting him on the wing. And Tatar never showed he can play center so no. Are u even a habs fan?

31 Oct 2018 15:57:49
If you look closely and use some deductive reasoning you could see that all the centres for the habs are on the left side of the list. I don’t think he was modelling the lines. More he was listing who he wanted on each line in their obvious position.

31 Oct 2018 16:02:20
@boomboom I’m assuming the centres are the first one on each line (domi, Kotka, daneault, Peca) . First glance at where Kotka Was i was confused with it too, but after seeing the other lines I assume that’s what he’s done.

31 Oct 2018 16:04:52
The centers are on the left as you should have seen from the other 3 lines. Come on boom boom your better then that.

31 Oct 2018 16:15:50
Not bad. however, not sure if KK is ready for 2nd line duty. eventually ., maybe even this year.
I don't really want Byron on the 4th. , as he is capable of scoring, back to back 20 goal seasons is no slouch in this league anymore. but. It may all be worth a try.

No Shaw? Lol.

31 Oct 2018 16:46:55
Also. how do you see things looking on the D.? Once Schlemko and Weber are back? Who sits? I really hope it isn't Juulsen. I have liked the small sample size I have seen from him. think he's going to be a really good ( no. not Norris candidate) for the D for years to come.
I'd be fine to just move on from Schlemko.

31 Oct 2018 19:21:15
I guess we could swap out byron and hudon but my logic behind that Sosa was to keep a bit more of a defensive presence on a line with scherbak at least for a few games. I also believe kotkaniemi is capable of playing 2nd line minutes especially with two decent players also with the way the habs roll 4 lines there isn't a big difference like some teams in line usage. He's consistently playing 3rd and 4th line minutes and if that's all he's going to get the chance to do here they may as we'll send him back to Finland. time to take the training wheels off at least a little bit.

31 Oct 2018 19:22:50
Reilly, weber
Petry, benn
Juulsen, mete
Is what I think they will go with. i think schlemko will be moved as soon as they can when he returns probably waivers. Maybe they will deal benn too now that he's playing decent enough to probably get a 4th or 5th pick for.

31 Oct 2018 20:28:28
Ya Habby, your logic behind the 3 and 4th makes sense. . I'm still not sure if its time to let KK go on the 2nd. I also think he's doing fine on the 3rd. he's getting some PP time. so I'm ok with his minutes he's getting. He is going to be a good one. but for this year. and this year only. I'm fine with him being sheltered and protected somewhat.

01 Nov 2018 02:21:34
I knew exactly what u meant but why change the way things are done. U are suppose to place the players in the order of the position they play especiallywhen u want people to look at your lines and comment on them. And Drouin can play center so can Hudon Byron and even Tatar played center at one point. In all seriousness I realized it when my text was already written but I liked the way I wrote it so I clicked the blue button lol.

01 Nov 2018 02:51:19
And your worried about me Boom Boom. ya . ummm ok.

01 Nov 2018 15:56:09
You should be flatered that I worry about you Sosa.

01 Nov 2018 15:41:04
Yeah maybe I just think he looks ready to take on some more responsibility and having a couple goal scorers on his line for a change would be nice for him too.

01 Nov 2018 15:49:03
Everyone else read it just fine though so what does that tell you?

01 Nov 2018 17:01:55
It would be nice to see him have a couple scorer with him, I agree with that. I guess my biggest concern is face offs. he will get there. jus going to take some time. I do like his 200 ft game. only 2 concerns are face offs and strength. but both of those will come as he gets older and fills out. Since. he is barely 18 .

30 Oct 2018 17:34:34
What does everyone feel about Arizona this year.? Lots of young talent.. ect.. is this team finally ready to quit being the most unsuccessful franchise in the NHL?? Maybe they can stop taking contracts of players who will never play again..
Or..should they jus say screw it .and move the team.. been what 20 years or more now.? This is the most irrelevant team in the game.

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30 Oct 2018 22:46:04
theyve got some good pieces, but need to make the playoffs to put some butts in the seats.

even then its hard for them. the nhl is happy to keep a team in the desert as long as all the big boys up north keep sharing.

30 Oct 2018 23:06:36
Yes move the team as far way as Austin Mathews’s home town as you can possibly go. 😉.

30 Oct 2018 23:20:03
Should be in Quebec.

30 Oct 2018 23:30:37
They’re up there for the most irrelevant franchise in NA pro sports. Not just hockey. All those bad contracts they took on are brutal of the payoff from the assets never come to fruition. Lots of teams have made ‘cap’ trades, but the assets have to pay off at some point. I’d have to look to see what they were actually given in each instance to see, but nothing of great value comes to mind. I know they moved up a few spots to take Chychrun in exchange for Datsyuks contract, and got Crouse for Bollands contract. Not sure on prongers, hossas and savards.

30 Oct 2018 23:39:26
I was betting pretty big on them making the playoffs this year.

I love the way they've been built, even though I'm not a fan of the team itself. They're probably one of the most 'depthy' teams out there, because really, they have solid contributors all across their lineup. Galchenyuk, Hinostroza, Grabner were all good adds too.

Plus, if Strome can play like a solid 2-3C, i think they're solid. (Stepan-Galchenyuk-Strome) Because, look at their defence:
OEL
Chych
Goligoski
Demers
Hjalmarsson
Oesterle

Thats so solid. Maybe not star-studded, but there's barely a weak link. Oesterle maybe, but even he played well for Chicago last year.

And Raanta is a solid goalie, i didn't believe he'd be as good as he is, but he's playing unreal.

Hope they do well. As for their location, i do think they could use a relocation. But Chayka has really done the team well despite lacking superstars besides OEL and Keller.

31 Oct 2018 00:25:27
I’m in for Quebec habby.

31 Oct 2018 02:27:16
Ya. i'm with Habby on that as well.

31 Oct 2018 09:28:17
Yeah and it was war a lot of nights the habs played them so I don't want to see it because I think it would benefit the habs. I just don't think they got a fair shake I mean they had 31 points one year and still had 15,000 going to the games every night, that was probably close to capacity then. Winnipeg got their team back and that's going pretty well. I think Quebec deserves another chance too.

31 Oct 2018 09:24:37
I’m good with Quebec. Problem is with Seattle coming in, it’s now going to even it up at 16 east, 16 west. So taking a west team to the east right after would make it 17-15. Might make more sense for hurricanes or panthers to move up since both those teams have had huge problems selling tickets and making money over recent years.

31 Oct 2018 16:06:24
Yes jim the problem is Seattle. Should be Quebec instead of them.

31 Oct 2018 16:19:48
I also think that the league should figure out some of these teams. especially Arizona, before bringing in new expansion. move Arizona to Seattle .

31 Oct 2018 19:23:39
@sosa. That makes sense today, but then that still means it’s 16 east and 15 west. Then the next expansion will still be a west team. I would say expand into Seattle, send Arizona to Quebec and then send Carolina to Houston (the new owner is from Dallas and was trying to get an expansion in Houston before he bought the Hurricanes) . Houston is a good sports town and had a great AHL team for years selling out the Aeros. Maybe there’s enough of a thirst still and could have a decent rivalry with the stars. Houston even had the aeros in the WHA and had Geordie Howe play for them, so there’s a pretty cool nostalgia factor they could exploit.

31 Oct 2018 20:31:53
Jim. I like that way of thinking. works for me. call Gary. set it up.

29 Oct 2018 16:58:55
Okay, so maybe my first message had too much text, new try:

Anyone interested in taking over a team in our fantasy hockey league with members from this website?

Comment if interested or ask for specifics.

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30 Oct 2018 00:17:23
Yes I am interested. Is they're any cost if yes how much.

30 Oct 2018 09:25:13
it's a free league. need your email adress to send you an invite.

30 Oct 2018 22:46:00
mb.saumur[at]gmail.com

Thank you.

31 Oct 2018 15:55:50
Got it, you need to create a fantrax account with that exact same email address first, though. Can't send the invite before you've done that. Please let me know once you've done that, thanks.

01 Nov 2018 10:59:18
Ok I'll let u know thanks.

29 Oct 2018 03:09:41
In all honesty. Good job Edmonton. Starting to play good hockey. They still have holes but they are not relying on McJesus all the time.

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29 Oct 2018 06:25:16
It’s nice to see most of the Canadian teams off to a good start. The expectations weren’t very high to start the season.

29 Oct 2018 21:44:34
Yes, it's nice to see Canadian teams doing fairly well. My biggest disappointment so far has been probably the best team in Canada, the Jets. I really thought they should have taken 1 of the 2 games vs Leafs . I think they are superior in every aspect, so was disappointed in seeing them lose both. . ( not superior in Centerman) .
Not trying to start some big deal with Leafs fans, Just feel Jets haven't found there stride yet and once they do will be the better team
Wouldn't suprise me if these 2 make an all Canadian final.

30 Oct 2018 11:53:48
Jets are looking slow but it's only early. They should be a tough playoff team though.

30 Oct 2018 12:08:49
Jets are definitely built for playoffs.

30 Oct 2018 17:29:16
They jus seem off. I don't know. from the goalie, the D and the forwards. Schieffle looked the best and most "normal". but the rest. justmissing something, not sure what is with Laine. I had him picked for the Rocket and truly believed he was in for 50+ goal season.
Guess it's still early, but so far not overly impressed.

30 Oct 2018 23:12:40
Laine really looked disengaged vs the leafs in both games last week, more so the Saturday night. He did hustle back to block an empty netter attempt at the end, but throughout the game before that he was coughing up the puck and just floating around. Seemed very frustrated every time they showed him on the bench. But With players and leaders like Wheeler, Buff and Schieffle and the rest of that roster, I’m thinking it’s a bit of a bad spell and they will be a force again soon enough.

29 Oct 2018 01:34:46
What's the best line in Hockey??


Other than McDavids.. or Mathews. Let's jus take those 2 out of it..

I'll go with Colorados McKinnon line.

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29 Oct 2018 02:44:12
Ya it's obviously Landeskog - McKinnon - Rantanen

Next up its Marchand - Bergeron - Pastrnak.

But in OT it's McDavid - Draisitl. 😂🍻🙊.

29 Oct 2018 02:48:47
Lol. Jus had to throw that in hey Yup. but. I have to agree . lol.

29 Oct 2018 08:34:21
Why would we take the Matthews line out?
I'll take both the MacKinnon and Bergeron line over the Matthews line. Maybe others won't. But at the very least it's debatable and there is no reason to take out the AM line.

29 Oct 2018 11:18:54
I’ll take the Bergeron line over Mathews and McDavid all day.

1. Bergeron
2. Stamkos/ Kuch
3. Seguin/ Benn
4. Malkin/ Kessel
5. Crosby/ Guzentzel ( espically in playoffs)
6. Mackinnon/ Rants
7. Mathews/ Nylander
8. Tavares/ Marner
9. Kuz/ Ovie
10. Schifele/ Wheeler
11. McDavid

McDavid is being extremely overrated here RNH isn’t exactly Elite he’s a great player but he needs better line mates to get in the top 10.

Bonus 3 on 3- Crosby, Malkin and Letang, Stamkos, Kucherov And Hedman, Towes, Kane and Keith, Seguin, Benn And Klingburg>>> McDavid, Drais And Klefbom.

29 Oct 2018 12:00:46
Hahahahahahaha.

29 Oct 2018 14:08:47
What’s so funny these are facts I hope you learned something from that Yupp you can learn a lot from me.

29 Oct 2018 16:00:13
You're troll game is so weak brother.
Imagine if McDavid was a Leaf how different your tune would be.

29 Oct 2018 16:33:56
I said take out those lines., cause half the time it ends up being an argument about Mathews and McDavid.
And ya proved it VB. you say McDavid is overrated on here.?
Fine . for me. whatever line McDavid is on. that's top line
. don't care if he's on a line with Kassian and Lucic. lol.

29 Oct 2018 16:47:22
How do you include Nylander in this list when he hasn't even played a game?

29 Oct 2018 19:33:03
It's because he's an over exaggerating homer Thunder. It's been pretty bad the last few months.

30 Oct 2018 00:07:23
Take out Nylander Then it’s a not a top 10 line.

30 Oct 2018 11:42:10
Remember " everything vbb says turns out to be true" lol.

30 Oct 2018 11:48:27
I feel like my username is very fitting here lol.

30 Oct 2018 16:12:30
Of . Who made that account name?
VB, 17 and Jimbo are going to think it's me.

30 Oct 2018 17:07:17
That user name is a little childish. this is all in fun. No reason for insults.

30 Oct 2018 19:30:44
Once again the comment is a little childish yupp. Have I ever defended vbb’s? There’s a good movie out there for kids like you, it’s called frozen. There’s a pretty good song in it too, I just can’t think of the main verse right now. You should check it out.

30 Oct 2018 22:54:44
i love this

agree with triplets in terms of not needing to disclude matthews line, since its not a top players but top lines, then easily matthews playing with marleau and kapanen isn't even close to the best line, same thing with whatever fodder is playing around mcdavid, not a line, a player.

ill take boston, avs, tampa, pitts and washington then start talking about the leafs and oilers.

marleau matthews nylander could easily be in that conversation if nylander signs.

31 Oct 2018 01:28:04
Reason I said to leave McDavid and Mathews lines out of this, is because it seems to always become about them in any post these days. so. just a subject that didn't relate to Oilers or Leafs or even my Habs, 31 teams in the league. seems like we only focus on a handful.

31 Oct 2018 01:20:31
@VB, there was a comment made under a username ‘biased jim’ a few weeks ago too, I just never even acknowledged it assuming I knew who it was anyway, maybe I was wrong, but don’t know. Don’t let it bother ya kid. Actually creating an account mocking someone else shows how much more that person needs this than you do lol.

31 Oct 2018 16:07:52
I assume you are blaming me for that jim? I can assure you it wasn't. I have enough trouble on here keeping my regular account going. Also awhile back there was an account named habs4cup that continued our argument that I assumed was you but reading now how much against that thing you appear to be maybe it wasn't you.

In the future it would be wise to assume whatever I have to say to you or anyone else on here I'll do it straight up I don't need to hide behind a 2nd account. That's just not my style.

31 Oct 2018 19:25:31
That’s what I said ‘I assumed I knew who it was, but could be wrong’. Not blaming you. At the time it made sense since it was during our argument and you were so adamant about me changing my name and then started calling me biased jim. Then a comment or two came up under that name the same week. However I don’t believe you did the VB one, so could be the same idiot doing both. I have no problem saying what I want to say under my own name. No alias needed. But creating an account to mock is pretty desperate is what I was saying. VB is just a kid as he has said. By reading what guys do for work, most are well established men. If a grown man resorts to that stuff, he is a joke as I said, he needs this far too much.

31 Oct 2018 19:26:24
That Habs4cup one came up as the username attached to my actual comment that day, you called attention to it, I responded to you and within minutes the entire thread was deleted from the page. No clue why or how that happened. I can only assume it was a correction from the site itself.

01 Nov 2018 01:35:17
I've lost track, is VB a kid? I thought he said he has kids.
His Kids hockey tourney in buffalo a while back. If that wasn't him who was it? Now I forget. Can't keep these tabs.
Is VB in high school now?
And who was it with the kids in hockey? lol.

01 Nov 2018 01:41:54
What do you do for work Jim?

01 Nov 2018 04:29:38
It was me who’s kid played in Buffalo last year then went to Leafs/ Oilers game after. My son played in Oshawa a few weeks ago and met Gary Roberts who was coaching his son’s team.

01 Nov 2018 15:42:41
Yeah I agree no need to have joke accounts going just say what you feel the most can happen is it starts an argument. And yes there has been a few things going on here lately that have seem a little strange.

01 Nov 2018 15:47:47
I don't think it's any of the regular guys doing it jim. I got a feeling it might be someone who is a little embarrassed about using their old name for reasons we would all remember if we thought about it.

01 Nov 2018 15:52:23
Vbb has talked about kids he has skated with and practised with and they are in the QMJHL right now. Also believe he has said he’s 17.

Have an automotive business until May. Then retirement and decide what’s next.

01 Nov 2018 16:14:19
Sent one earlier but never showed up.

Vbb has named a cpl kids he played with and those kids are currently in the QMJHL. He also said he was 17 years old at one point I believe. Making a fake account to mock someone’s name is ridiculous at anytime, but when it’s a grown man (which I believe 95% of us are) doing it to a high school kid, it’s a whole new level petty and sad.

And I have an automotive business but retiring from it in May. Then decide what’s next.

28 Oct 2018 17:47:36
Question for anyone but Leafs17, because he'll be offended somehow.

What are your guys thoughts on the Trouba hit. Dirty or clean?

I was a dick to Leafs17 earlier with a comment about it because it's hilarious how offended and whiney he can be about things I say for some reason.

Simple question for anyone else about the Mathews injury.
I haven't heard how bad the injury is either. Anyone know? 1/ 2 games. 1/ 2 weeks?

Agree5 Disagree5

28 Oct 2018 18:22:29
It was totally clean. will probably be called dirty because it was on Mathews. however. it was a good clean hit. oh. for you Leafs fans. I despise Trouba bout a much as Mathews, so no bias here.

Sounds like he has had shoulder issues even as a teen. As per HNIC last night. if so. this could be bad for Mathews now and long term . as much as I don't like the guy, hopefully nothing long term.

28 Oct 2018 18:26:17
Sorry yupp but you don’t get to decide who replies to your posts. There was nothing wrong with the hit IMO. Yes you are a dick.

28 Oct 2018 18:30:49
Clean hit Mathews was to confident and was cought with his head down happens to the best of the best.

28 Oct 2018 19:03:33
So does anyone know what the injury is or how bad it could be? 1 or 2 games. Or possibly weeks?
Good two wins vs Jets back to back. Surprised me.

28 Oct 2018 19:04:07
I bet I'm a dick for asking about a Leafs players injury and cogratulating them in two wins vs a good team. Sorry about that.

28 Oct 2018 20:16:59
I watched it twice and didn't see anything wrong with it.

28 Oct 2018 20:36:50
Seems like just a guy trying to cut into the slot and getting stood up by a clean hit then.

28 Oct 2018 22:09:50
I bet you’re really concerned about the health of Matthews and hope that he doesn’t miss a beat. Judge the hit for yourself yupp, you’re a hockey insider. Thanks for the praise on the leafs beating Winnipeg twice. I was actually “super scared” going into these matchups. Bahaha, if a hockey game makes you scared, then you don’t really have much else going on in your life. We’re here for you, if you’re ever scared just reach out for a cuddle. Bro’s?

28 Oct 2018 22:19:04
It was a clean hit by Trouba in an area of the rink you rarely see open ice hits, so Matthews wasn't expecting it. I like to tease Leaf fans about how soft Matthews is but that hit would have hurt a lot of NHL players. I hope he gets better soon.

28 Oct 2018 22:25:37
100% clean. I was just mad cause it happened to Auston, but its shoulder on shoulder clean through and through.

My problem with it was Torontos lack of response until Kadris goal. There was no redeemable physicalilty from guys like Leivo, Goat, Marincin, Oz and we didn’t exactly ‘show it to the Jets’ until the third.

28 Oct 2018 22:40:35
What don’t you like about Matthews Sosa? Is it the American thing, because we know how you feel about them? Or is it because he’s not McDavid or Draisaitl, I know how much you love those guys.

28 Oct 2018 23:27:20
Totally clean — looked a lot like a separated shoulder to me — it’s the opposite of the one he hurt last year I think — if it is separated he’s looking at like 4-6 weeks.

29 Oct 2018 00:58:29
Lmao. It's crazy how whiney and salty you get about anything I say Leafs17. You made my boring Sunday. 🍻
I've re read this thread and you're butt hurt comments about what ever I say is amazing.

29 Oct 2018 01:03:50
I jus think he's cocky. and he's way over hyped. And yes. I really like McDavid and Draisaitl. and not ashamed to say it.
And. he's a friggin Leaf. I'm a Habs fan.

29 Oct 2018 01:13:22
Oh no! Someone doesn't like a Leafs player and Leafs17 is offended! Shocking.

29 Oct 2018 01:15:03
Unsportsmanlike, Crap really? Thought it was the same shoulder as last year. Read today all Babcock said was Mathews will miss at least 1 game. Haven't heard anything else about the injury or expected time missed. I was thinking if it was reinjured shoulder from last year that might be bad, but it's the other shoulder?

29 Oct 2018 01:21:18
I don't know why Sosa dosnt like Mattews but personally I dislike him because he always looks and walwalkwalwalks around like he's better then everyone although he's very good, professionals like McDavid, Pietrangelo, Webber are really good hockey players but also very humble. I might be 100% wrong about this but I still remember at the draft saying this guy reminds me of Jack Eichel in the way that he's a really good player but just seems too confident. Maybe it's just the way he is and if it is it's working for him because he's showing really good numbers but that's the reason why I personally don't like him. I know u guys (mostly leads fan) will disagree with this statement and that's fine but i'm entitled to share my views.

29 Oct 2018 01:31:03
Also Leafs 17. I do hope the kid isn't injured to seriously. I may not like him. but I don't wish him any ill will.

29 Oct 2018 02:49:01
Agree with BoomBoom. He seems like that cockyness that Eichel has as well. Not that humbleness that Crosby and McDavid have.
I'm sorry for my opinion Leafs17. Sorry I'm a douche for thinking that. I'm so sorry. Sorry.

29 Oct 2018 06:30:52
Eh no problem yupp. I have other things in life to worry about other than whose team gets the most 1st overalls but don’t do anything with them. Cheers!

29 Oct 2018 13:24:05
Hahahahahaha.

29 Oct 2018 13:24:56
You've sure been worrying about anything I say over the years.

29 Oct 2018 16:01:35
Out at least 4 weeks. Those top two lines, Reily and Anderson are going to have to carry the team now. Leafs actually have been better when Mathews is out injured last season. So probably not much to worry about there.

29 Oct 2018 16:54:40
He’s out a minimum of 4 weeks.

29 Oct 2018 16:55:20
Not a big fan of Matthews either - I'm hoping JT will provide him with someone to look up to who also has a lot of class in my opinion. But, I'm also a habs fan. so take that with a grain of salt.
I really hope he gets back soon, but from what i have heard it is approximately 4 weeks or more.

29 Oct 2018 20:52:24
😱😱😱😱😱. Sosa, BoomBoom, Thunder, you guys aren't allowed to dislike Leafs players on here!

30 Oct 2018 00:01:23
You’re embarrassing yourself now yupp. I asked Sosa a question. Are you going to drag this on for weeks because I called you out for being arrogant? Don’t forget I called vbb’s out too. Weird eh, a leafs fan calling out a leafs fan? I just call it as I see it.

30 Oct 2018 01:01:00
I’ve never noticed the Jack Eichel comparisons. Matthews definitely has never thrown his team under the bus as Eichel has on a few occasions. Maybe he does walk around like his sh*t doesn’t stink, I don’t know. Maybe it’s because you don’t like the leafs, I don’t know. The guy has scored a lot of goals in his young career and barely even cracks a smile. Until the ear thing in Chicago which was frowned upon by many. I think if he was on your team, your feelings would be different. Yupp, please try to keep our arguments between you and I, no need to try and drag everyone into it. I know it would be a mature thing to do but give it a shot.

30 Oct 2018 11:47:06
@yupp. First of all you’re not the guy to talk about someone getting offended easily over this stuff. I say Chiarelli lost a trade or overpaid a player and you immediately turn into a 6 year old girl who just dropped her ice cream on the sidewalk. It’s like I insulted your mother or something

Secondly, the hit was clean, nothing wrong with it, unfortunate he got hurt. However I haven’t heard a single person in the media, a fan, anyone say it was dirty so it’s kind of a dumb thing to try to stir up. There was no controversy.

Thirdly, Leafs were better without Matthews last year? Lol where do you come up with this crap. With Matthews in the lineup they won 38 of 60 games (.610 hockey) and were getting 1.35 pts per contest. Without him they won 11 of 20 (.550 hockey) accumulating 1.2 pts per game. The garbage you spew while telling other people they don’t know what they’re talking about is astounding lol.

30 Oct 2018 11:49:11
@yupp they say they don’t like him because he's cocky and that’s there opinion. Literally no one has told them they are wrong or can’t say that. And yet you got all bent out of shape over me saying Kassian had issues that we wouldn’t want to take on. The way I see that is you think everyone has to like every Oiler, even their healthy scratches lol again, simply astounding.

30 Oct 2018 11:52:29
Oh, and great insight yupp. The top 2 lines, their best Dman and starting goalie are going to have to carry the team? That’s such outside the box thinking that a team will rely on its 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th best players when their best goes down with an injury lol it’s incredible that came out of the same mouth as “leafs were better without Matthews”. Just gold on top of gold on top of gold. How are you not paid for this stuff yet?!

30 Oct 2018 12:16:13
I love how salty you get. It makes my day. And I was about to add in "you'll upset the whiners" in my last comment. Could you imagine how more triggered you would have been! 😱😱.

No Jim. You said you hadn't been critical of anyone but PC and at the exact same time you were very critical of someone's personal life doubting if they had cleaned up or not when it's a know thing that they are doing a lot better now than before they came to the team. That's basically the definition of being critical. I don't care if you don't like Kassian or not, But don't go around saying you aren't critical of anyone but PC but are critical of someone's personal life at the exact same time.
How you take that as me telling you you're not allowed to not like Kassian as a hockey player is beyond me. You always take what I say to an extreme and bend it a bit. You really need to read what I say, twice, slowly, understand it and then respond. Don't so read to reply, read to understand. Now read this again slowly. Nothing I say here should offend you and trigger you, it's just a calm conversation. Relax. Why couldn't you beat my rival Flames last night Fuk! That's not an insult that's a playful frustration statement by me, that's all. Damn rival Canuks won too Fuk. 😫.

30 Oct 2018 12:58:33
Okay yupp, I read it twice.

You never responded how leafs were better without Matthews when in the 60 games he played, they were on pace for 111 pt season and when he wasn’t in the lineup, they were on a 98 pts pace for the season. Once again, hell of a politician avoiding questions, but not much more.

Secondly I never denied once that Kassian was clean and sober. I applauded him if he was. I said there’s always the risk of a relapse which I wouldn’t want to risk in a business decision even if someone’s been clean for 2, 3, 4, 5 years. Why don’t you take your own advice and actually read, understand and then respond. ‘Don’t read to respond, read to understand’ lol.

30 Oct 2018 16:11:04
When it’s a family member or a friend with those problems, I would believe to a fault that they were going to stay clean and I would support them 100%. However, he’s a pro hockey player, basically a private contractor, and teams are investors. In my own business, i wouldn’t invest money in a strangers business as easily as I would loan money to family or a friend.

There’s a different trust element. He’s lost that trust from a lot of ppl. If he gained it back in Edmonton, good for him and he might go somewhere else and do the same. I wouldn’t want it on my team if I was making the call, simple as that.

30 Oct 2018 16:13:08
But if it’s not off ice issues why they don’t want him there anymore, then it’s on ice and leafs, when healthy, are a harder forward group to crack than Edmonton, don’t see the fit.

30 Oct 2018 18:45:39
Kassian wasn't performing and was say a few games. His agent and GM talked and Gm allowed the agent to look
Around for a possible trade and fresh start. The agent is doing his job and loooong out for his guy and wants to find more ice time.
Kassian doesn't want to leave Edm. Edm doesn't want Kassian to leave. His agent is doing his job. I read that today. Happens all the time to guys in and out of the lineup just usually doesn't come out in the media.

30 Oct 2018 19:45:13
We also know that when things come out in the media they are often followed up by a comment such as Kassian’s. Don’t believe everything you read. Has someone ever came out and said “I want a trade” while still on the roster? I mean it’s possible but they’re taught to say the right thing to the media. Of course he doesn’t want out of Edmonton, who would?

31 Oct 2018 01:18:07
Jesus man. That's not from me or my opinion Its from NHL insiders that I read from.
I could say the sky is blue and you would disagree just because I'm the one who said it.

31 Oct 2018 01:10:20
Okay, so you cleared that up. Kassian doesn’t want to leave Edmonton and Edmonton wants him to stay but they won’t play him and he has his agent finding him a job elsewhere 🤔 lol

But for the fourth time, how are the leafs better without Matthews?! because they definitely don’t look better when we watch those games, and they don’t win as many games without him as they do with him. Are you going to explain it? Or am I to assume you just made it up to take another unnecessary shot at a guy? Lol.

31 Oct 2018 02:57:42
Leafs with Mathews GF/ G - 3.45
Leafs without Mathews GF/ G - 3.04

GA/ G with - 2.9
GA/ G without - 2.62

PP with - 28/ 172
PP without - 19/ 55

PP % with - 22.1
PP % without - 34.5.

Some ways they are better without him there.
Power play and goals against are better. Only ones I looked into there. Don't have much time for ya anymore and these conversations. I'm done going at it with ya man.
Give it's a rest for a week or so.

31 Oct 2018 09:26:16
so they scored 12% more goals and allowed 10% more when he was in the lineup by those numbers. That’s another positive correlation in his favour even by the numbers you just provided. Their gf/ ga ratio is 2% better and they had an 8% better win percentage when he played vs when he didn’t. The only number you have that shows opposite is PP% and even when 100% healthy he was on the second PP unit and averaged 5th most PP ice time on the team. But yeah, they’re better without him, because you said so. Every team is better without their best player lol.

31 Oct 2018 20:18:12
Maybe you should give it a rest yupper. You continue to show your maturity level. You change the subject to tell us about your personal life, which seemed to me like we were done. Yet you are still apologizing for offending people in your posts. Do you enjoy dropping subtle hints at people, does it make you feel like a big boy? It sounds like you do an adults job, I’m trying to figure out how your coworkers deal with you. Stop the BS and reply to people without acting like a spoiled teenager.

01 Nov 2018 01:36:08
You are so easily triggered. I love it.

 


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