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01 Jan 2019 04:55:56
Considering Edmonton’s mess in contract and roster currently, this is simply a hypothetical situation so please ignore salary cap but how realistic would the be to help the oilers steer the ship around.

Edmonton trades something like this

Edmonton: Mcdavid, lucic, Russell

Any team could take that package and give up the following

Islander: barzal, beavillier, Dobson, wilde.

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01 Jan 2019 05:04:27
In almost any trade that includes Connor mcdavid the oilers lose.

01 Jan 2019 05:27:02
And any where the oilers get enough value the other team backs out because it would destroy they're team.

01 Jan 2019 06:44:24
Unless McDavid demands it, there is no chance he gets traded.
I don't know what the answer there is. no one really does., but a complete regime change is a start.

30 Dec 2018 23:30:53
Oilers really changed the look of their defence today

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31 Dec 2018 00:06:52
But is it an improvement. ? I don't know enough about the players coming in.

31 Dec 2018 02:15:58
It is a slight improvement.

31 Dec 2018 02:22:36
Norell is in Sweden so probably not much help this s year.
Manning has only played 27 games this year not sure if that was injury related or not.

31 Dec 2018 02:23:26
Idk how Chia can manage to think trading for the one player that McDavid despises is a good idea. I like the Petrovic deal, but a lot of people say him and Wideman are comparable so idk if the 3rd is just excessive. And the Manning trade, aside for who they’re bringing in, is terrible. Hawks fans wouldve just been glad if Manning wasn’t on the team. And instead they got rid of him and got an asset which could put up 25ish points.

31 Dec 2018 04:01:07
Oh, I didn't realize he's the guy who took out McDavid. . I hope Chairelli checked in with his Super Star . or else that was a dumb move.
Does it seem like Chiarelli is scrambling.? And I don't like that Caggulia was sent out. thought he was a good utility kinda guy.

31 Dec 2018 05:04:46
Jus read they had a chat. well, we will see. but I don't think this will make much of a difference in Edmonton.

31 Dec 2018 14:18:41
Drake never was going to be a 40-50 point guy, yee, but like you said, he was a servicable utility guy, probably woul’ve hit between 25-30 points. I mean, the Oilers could be looking for depth scoring, idk why they would trade him when Manning is basicallu just a worse clone of Petrovic. Idk, but for sure, the moves seem scrambly after the five game losing streak.

30 Dec 2018 18:57:36
Filip zadina hasn't showed up yet. I wonder if kotkaniemi would be this invisible if he was there for Finland

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30 Dec 2018 19:26:31
Who knows. however I was one that wasnt happy at first that we passed on Zadina for KK. well, shows what I know. KK is most exciting prospect/ young player Habs have had since Price was a 1st rounder.

31 Dec 2018 02:19:38
If those shots he hits the goal post with start going in he should be just fine.

31 Dec 2018 03:16:45
They got bigger and more physical for sure. Interesting side note manning is the guy that injured mcdavid in his rookie year.

31 Dec 2018 06:01:58
Last comment was meant for the above post obviously lol.

30 Dec 2018 18:54:09
Ryan poehling with the performance of the tourney so far. One of a very select few team usa players who didn't give up when they got down.i don't know for sure where he will slot into an nhl lineup but I believe it's safe to say it will be somewhere.... soon

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30 Dec 2018 19:28:02
Hopefully as Trade bait . part of a deal to land a solid Dman.

30 Dec 2018 22:06:34
Come on Sosa he's from minnasota that's practically anonther canadien province lol.

31 Dec 2018 00:08:34
Oh Minnesota. well that's ok then, lol. my Gradmother was from there. lol Minnesota and Michigan, they are ok.

30 Dec 2018 09:50:49
We'll maybe mcniven starts next game?

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30 Dec 2018 12:23:14
Cant do any worse than Niemi. Really hope he isn't resigned for next season. I'd rather have Montoya back lol.

30 Dec 2018 17:37:29
Niemi hasn’t even been a decent backup this year. As someone as lindgren is back for Laval I would say call him up. Waive niemi when price returns. And cut the losses. Every game niemi has started we have had to put score opponents. Also I feel like he is too old to be playing back to backs like that. You could tell that he was feeling the fatigue so partial blame to the coach. Both sides should have recognized right away that he probably couldn’t manage. You shouldn’t sit the guy for a month then play him on back to backs.

30 Dec 2018 17:36:39
He looked more nervous then a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs.

01 Jan 2019 05:54:20
Wow big bounce back game from niemi I was suprised and impressed.

30 Dec 2018 02:42:15
Toronto: Martin Marincin, JJ.Pinich And 3rd 2019

New York Rangers: Adam McQuade

Toronto- Would be the 6th dman would help on the PK and would really help in the playoffs

New York- Gets a replacement plug and a pick. McQuade dosent have much use to the the rangers

Toronto: 2nd round 2019

Las Vegas: Ryan Reeves

Toronto: gets grit on the 4th line to help them get by the Bruins

Las Vegas: Gets a pick for a player they don't need.

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30 Dec 2018 03:48:55
I don't see why Vegas does Toronto a favor, and gives them exactly the type of player they need. No from Vegas. They need and want Reeves as well.

30 Dec 2018 07:01:52
I agree with Sosa on Reaves but the McQuaid deal sounds about right.

30 Dec 2018 16:33:13
Would the leafs need to give a 1st for reeves? Or add a prospect like Brooks or Bracco.

30 Dec 2018 21:54:39
Word on the street is Reaves will be a blues again next year.

30 Dec 2018 21:42:25
They aren't getting Reaves.

31 Dec 2018 20:39:50
We traded Martin for an ECHL goalie, just to ship off a second or first for REAves? Who makes nearly the same as martin? Lol no.

29 Dec 2018 09:12:51
So I was thinking Shea Weber maybe even plus when Ekblad was drafted?( especially after my fav Jr Rienhart)
Is it fair to say he will be a Chris Philips 1st overall?? Steady, but not a star??

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29 Dec 2018 15:16:08
Chris Phillips was straight buns Arron Eklblad is actually good. He already out produced his career highs.

29 Dec 2018 18:27:56
Phillip wasnt a Bum. he wasnt spectacular, but he was a solid player for many years.
Ya, your right, he has out produced Phillip's offensively, what I was saying VB, is like that. like Eric Johnson . 1st overall Dman, but never really became the star they were suppose to be.
I was thinking he would be a perennial Norris candidate, and he still may get there. as Dmen sometimes take longer to hit full stride.

29 Dec 2018 19:57:18
No Ekblad has more points in 5 seasons then Phillip's has for his while career. Not stats just a exagaration but Phillip's never has over 23 points has a defensemen. Ekblas already has 36 and he's still just 21. RHD with that much skill, this guy is and will be a true star.

29 Dec 2018 19:57:46
I won't get into this cause you know how I feel about him I think.

29 Dec 2018 19:59:17
Calder level defensemen isn't bad tho Sosa.

29 Dec 2018 20:55:53
K. maybe was a bad comparison. I guess my point is., I don't think he is going to turn into the star most people think when they pick someone 1st overall. Of course I would love to have the guy on my team. I kinda thought he would be like Weber. Big, Strong, and a great 2 way Dman.
He still may get there, as he is young.
Maybe it's like Galchenyuk ( bad comparison) but I am always left thinking there is more to his game.

30 Dec 2018 02:27:36
I definitely see him being up there with Weber.

30 Dec 2018 23:29:35
I guess he can possibly get his point level up to webers but he will never be the physical force weber is.

29 Dec 2018 09:06:58
Who's better... Mathews or Marner..??

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29 Dec 2018 09:34:03
My opinion. Marner by alot. . Better individual player is Mathews. but Marner is head and shoulders ( even though he's a lil guy) . a way better overall team guy. . he deserves the 10 m contract. trade the American. Get rid of him and make your team a real contender. Tavares is your # 1. Mathews, really good trade chip. Leafs are incomplete. trade the Mathews. be complete.
Ya can't be Canadas team with an arrogant American as your so called leader.

29 Dec 2018 12:08:42
Both special players, but sort of comparing apples to oranges. Matthews has one of the best releases in the league and is already an elite two-way center. Marner is an incredible playmaker and is only going to get better (he’s still very much built like a 14 year old boy) .

And Sosa I realllly think you’re just biased because Matthews is American. I don’t see the arrogance you are talking about at all. He comes off to me as a bit of a shy/ quiet type.

Center depth is just as important as D-depth to win a championship. Leafs would definitely benefit from better D depth but I don’t think trading Matthews for it makes the Leafs better.

29 Dec 2018 15:23:15
Marner is good but you got to give it to the American Mathews. Canadians just have such a bad attitude and are the cockiest players. American are calm and humble while playing the game like it should be played unlike Canadians. Players like Sean Avery, Tom Wilson, personm Kadri, Ralfi Torres, Matt Cook, Todd Beurtuzi, Evander Kane, Brad Marchand And many more are ruining the game imo Canadians shouldn’t be aloud to play in the NHL.

This is what you sound like Sosa also FYI Canadians have a much worse reputation.

29 Dec 2018 15:53:07
I thought you were back to work. What did Matthews do now? Is he scoring too many goals again Sosa?

29 Dec 2018 18:22:05
Lol. I am back to work, I work 7 days on, 7days off
And VB. those guys you mentioned aren't cocky, maybe Marchand. they are dirty.
If he wasn't a Leaf, you guys wouldn't care for him much either.

Ok fine., I'll the American thing out of it.
If ya could only sign one. who? I think Marner is the better player.
Mathews has a way better shot, I'll give him that.

29 Dec 2018 19:59:45
Elite center not elite two way. As of right now he's only elite on the offensive end.

29 Dec 2018 19:29:53
@unsportsmanlike and others: where do y'all get that Matthews is a "great TWO-WAY center" from? Like, is it what Leafs media tells you or is there anything to actually back that claim up?

29 Dec 2018 22:31:55
I’m a bolts fan. I don’t see the arrogance and cockiness from Matthews either. And saying you’d take Marner over Matthews shows either an extreme bias or buying into the Toronto media way too much. Marner is good, but there really isn’t a debate between him and Matthews.

30 Dec 2018 02:31:17
Honestly Marner is so much funner to watch they’re super close imo Mathews is basically Malkin with a Legendary release and Marner ( like I always said and always got bashed on, called biased etc) is another Patrick Kane just as good.

30 Dec 2018 14:05:42
I love Mitch but you take Auston anytime you can. If you watch Matthews when he's fully he's on his game, he honestly reminds me of Geno - big, strong, skilled center. I don’t necessarily see Bergeron or a selke in his future, but his dzone play (while watching games at least) is solid, he has coverage and doesn’t often ‘float’ around like some players do.

29 Dec 2018 02:02:23
If I'm Benn and Seguin.. I demand trades.. no way in hell would I work for a guy that says that about me..
It's fine for an owner/CEO to not be happy, however..ya tell your team president.. GM. Maybe even have a team meeting with the players( which is a lil abnormal).. what this guy did., he crossed the line talking to media about his players like that.. and that kinda crap, should be a hearing process which a player can void his contract...cause these 2, have no problem finding a big contract..

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29 Dec 2018 12:10:15
It’s not how I would have handled it but that CEO is not wrong; those guys are underperforming relative to what they are getting paid.

29 Dec 2018 18:34:44
You could say the same for a lot of other guys too, nylander so far isn’t performing according to his contract, by this guys standards neither is draisaitl, toews, p. Kane, giroux, doughty etc. You don’t see other team CEO going to the media and calling them horse rubbish. Point is star players aren’t going to put up big numbers every year/ game. Seguin and Benn at this point are still on pace to put up 70+ points each which isn’t too shabby. Hockey is a team sport, can’t depend on 2 guys, problem with the stars is that they have next to zero secondary scoring which puts everything directly on Benn and Seguin shoulders which just like Montreal and Carey price they can only carry the weight for so long before it starts to weigh on them and I’d say to this point it’s starting to get heavy.

29 Dec 2018 19:58:56
You don't call your players horse for under performing for a couple weeks.

29 Dec 2018 20:50:52
Also if you look at their numbers. They aren’t amazing but the whole team has struggled. Their top line is leading in points assists and goals. So out of all the players to call out why would you pick on those two. Lowest scorer of those those two and radulov has ten points less and is making big bucks to produce.

29 Dec 2018 22:46:47
I meant the next highest scorer after radulov. My bad. Jason zpexxa makes 7.5 million and he has 10 points less than radulov who missed 10 games. Unfair for those two to get called out.

29 Dec 2018 01:07:16
Hey Habby, Turkey and anyone else who would like to comment...
What you guys think of Romanov??? I think Habs scouting did a real good job on this one.. kind of reminds me of when teams passed on PK.. and he ended up a second rounder...think we got a really good one !!!!!
World Jr has a lot of Habs prospects.. and so far he had most impressed me..

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29 Dec 2018 16:19:48
He’s looked solid so far; hopefully he has an off night on New Years Eve!

29 Dec 2018 19:51:57
He looked like a potential top dman of the tourney in his 1st game but to be fair it was against Denmark so I'll wait till he plays a good team before I get too excited.

29 Dec 2018 19:56:49
Ylonen suzuki and poehling all looked decent too. Brook is being trusted with a lot of the defensive assignments which is a good sign for a guy who plays a good offensive game too. he also played a lot on the left side which is a plus considering he's a righty this could get him on the big club even quicker.

29 Dec 2018 21:00:01
I haven't been able to catch the Swedes or Finns. but overall I have been very impressed with the players in Habs system.
Not that success in this tourney means a successful NHL career ( jus ask Anthony Stewart), but its bud to see some promising youngsters.

 


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