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07 Sep 2017 14:36:25
Actually he's in top 20 wingers in league and top 50 players in league so actually he would be the best player on a lot of teams some not yes but the guy has had 5 30 plus go season in a row an 60 plus points that's a superstar in today's NHL.

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09 Sep 2017 14:04:11
i whole heartedly agree. the player your talking about is awesome, hall of famer guaranteed.

09 Sep 2017 14:37:20
He sounds pretty good I'll give you that.

10 Sep 2017 08:25:08
Who are you talking about? Marian Gaborik?

10 Sep 2017 16:21:14
I bet he's talking about Paciorety?

10 Sep 2017 20:33:59
hes talking about Thorburn.

11 Sep 2017 17:27:19
Hahaha.

11 Sep 2017 19:53:08
He's talking about JVR.

07 Sep 2017 12:20:23
Galchenyuk, Pacioretty and Juulson to NYI for Tavares and Lee.

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09 Sep 2017 14:05:13
if i'm montreal i don't give that up unless he signs an extention south of 10m. and i don't see tavares signing for less than toews and kane.

07 Sep 2017 03:49:52
Treliving: How many push ups can you do?
Bennet: Almost 2.
Treliving: That's how much we'll pay you.

Seriously. What leverage did Bennet have, and to use overseas as a threat?

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07 Sep 2017 11:30:55
"i'm better than that jake guy who got drafted at 6 to Vancouver, and I've done at least double what he's done. "

"Great, so well pay you double what he's making now. "

07 Sep 2017 14:10:04
It's actually a pretty good deal. If Bennett shows up next season and plays well then it's a steal. If he continues to be a 3rd line player then it's ok cause he's only getting paid 3rd line money.

07 Sep 2017 15:28:02
Ya I agree it could end up being a good deal for Calgary. But what was Bennet holding out for, he had no leverage at all. Had 25 points. He is t worth much more than $1.9M.

04 Sep 2017 22:45:57
Question for Winnipeg Jets fans:

Just want to know what kind of value from my Red Wings would probably be the cost to get some of the players from your team?

Not saying that we should pay the cost or you should give them up for cheap but what would their reasonable value wise be.

1. Kyle Connor
2. Jacob Trouba
3. One of your goalie prospects: Eric Comrie or Connor Helleybuck

Only real untouchables in my mind from Detroit are: Larkin, AA, Mantha and Svechnikov. Everyone else is available.

If one of those has to be included to get a deal done then I am less inclined because it may be counter-intuitive to our rebuild objectives.

So just looking to see possible asks from Red Wings?


Thanks

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05 Sep 2017 10:33:16
Zetterberg and 2nd for Kyle Connor? I really don't see a fit but would Zetterberg ever compliment Liane. Zetterberg would be over a Point Per Game with Liane.

05 Sep 2017 10:34:53
Of course some of those guys need to be included, you barely have anything else of vaue tbh.
Maybe the Jets like Nyqvist or Tatar (I personally don't) and take one of them, plus a prospect and a first rounder.

But I suppose when you say counterintuitive for a rebuild, good prospects and 1st rounders shouldn't be traded either so I guess that is going to be tough.

I see at least 5 bad years for the wings ahead. Bottom 3 team while having a top 3 payroll is not deal. They need to go full rebuild mode and build through the draft, which they seem to be historically good at.

06 Sep 2017 09:50:06
You're not getting Connor or Trouba without giving up your good young assets. got to give to get. Zetterberg and a 2nd for Connor? Really VB? That's laughable from Winnipeg. Btw wouldn't say AA is untouchable, his contract/ Detroit's cap situation is the key in this. You guys wouldn't be able to resign Trouba. Wings are in trouble with their cap situation. Holland needs to go imo.

03 Sep 2017 23:41:37
Lmao, I read something funny.

Goofball James Tanner suggests that the price to acquire Jacob Trouba is JVR + Carl Grundstrom + Travis Dermott + Adam Brooks + 1st + 1st.


Lmao.

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04 Sep 2017 15:21:12
a little much, yes jvrs value is less now than it was last year because he's on the last year of his contract but not a lot of guys are worth 2 1sts alone, and jacob trouba is not one of them.

04 Sep 2017 16:57:35
Mr. Tanner is just writing things to piss people off. He flip flops on everything he writes. If Trouba struggles out of the gate he will say he's only worth a 3rd round pick. He has been writing a lot of crap of late. I think he's trying to be a Steve Simmons and just make stuff up for a reaction. Doesn't he also say Marincin is a great defender. He could not make a bad defense in Edmonton 3 years ago. He looks like he will not make Toronto this year. Don't fall into Tanner's trap.

04 Sep 2017 17:43:00
Trouba is definately worth 2 firsts alone, he is more valuable than Hamonic. However he isn't worth this whole deal.

04 Sep 2017 19:36:01
James tanner is quite possibly the biggest moron in the world.

04 Sep 2017 19:45:48
@Ovies

Totally agree.

@Vancity

Yeah, he says marincin is better than Hainsey/ Carrick on TO. He thinks he's elite. Havent fallen into his trap yet, but he is hella annoying,

05 Sep 2017 02:59:59
He says Jake gardiner should be a norris candidate and that OEL is on the same level as karlsson.

05 Sep 2017 17:01:42
A guy like Trouba is exactly what would be so perfect for the leafs.
He would get a decent contract tho. Maybe $6M.
With what they gave Marleau, Would they be able to keep Marner and Nylander then? Their three young guns be getting big raises right away.

02 Sep 2017 01:28:38
Van- nothing but cap

NYI- Tavares

straight up rubbish out of luck!

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04 Sep 2017 06:25:19
What? No clue what's going on here.

04 Sep 2017 17:00:39
I would love it if Vancouver offered Tavares 7 years 70 million in the off season. If he wants more I'll give him what he wants. Tavares, Horvat, Petterson. That is finally some strength down the middle.

06 Sep 2017 13:49:20
Society counters with a slap to the face.

06 Sep 2017 15:48:24
Lol. That's one of the most accurate things youve posted VB. Nice.

16 Aug 2017 19:15:12
Draisitl 8.5mil per 8 years

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16 Aug 2017 21:38:04
Just saw that - good signing!

17 Aug 2017 02:43:13
too much imo. How many of those stats were bumped for him being mcwonderkids winger, i figured he's worth maybe 6 mill, he's getting paid as #1 center dollers and hasn't proven himself at that lvl n posistion.

17 Aug 2017 04:36:20
Good signing.!

17 Aug 2017 06:27:03
@Jww
I get what you're saying and I agree with you in a sense. Right now that contract looks bad because most of what we have seen of Draisaitl is as McDavid's winger. However, if he proves that he can produce the numbers he did last season or at least close to that on his own line for say 4-5 years of that contract, then in the long-term the contract will be a steal.

Remember, Draisaitl is still young and growing, his ceiling could be worth the contract he got now or maybe even more but by taking the hit early at a lower value might save the Oilers in the next few years if he were to test Free Agency and get 10 mill plus.

So overall it's a good signing for the long term but a little ugly in the short term unless Edmonton wins a cup in the next 3-4 years. That's my take on this.

17 Aug 2017 13:23:44
Datsyuk, that's fair but i don't like handing out 8 year contracts at what may be a players ceiling. Give him a bridge deal and go from there. he's making the same as Stamkos. He may be woth it if he maintains his production while centering his own line. Or if he stays on McDavids wing. But especially with the cap crunch they have next season would have benefited from a bridge deal.

17 Aug 2017 15:55:42
@jbs32

I agree with you, I would have much preferred this to be a bridge contract. However, with cap level uncertainty nowadays we are seeing players being more greedy in getting max value so they get paid well regardless of cap outcome.

Ideally the deal Draisaitl should have got would be something similar to Tavares's current contract where you're underpaying a superstar but shorter term.

However it's looking like nowadays that the Tavares contract is an anomaly.

So yes, I wish Draisaitl got a lower bridge deal. However, I also know that he got this deal now and if he proves his worth then in 4-5 years we could say this deal is a steal.

15 Aug 2017 17:16:24
I know it's still early but is the fantasy hockey league happening again?

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16 Aug 2017 16:26:13
I'm down to do it if anyone else is.

23 Aug 2017 15:29:24
Sorry, GR81, we've had that on the site like a couple weeks ago I'd guess and are already all set and done pretty much. If anyone bails during the year, we'll let you know!

15 Aug 2017 15:14:09
MIN: Reilly
WPG: Armia

Minnesota can you use another bottom 6 winger and they still have no room for Reilly on their roster. The Jets trade from a position of strength to get some defensive help. Both players are the same age and were drafted in the same year, Armia (16th Overall, 2011), Reilly (98th Overall, 2011).

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15 Aug 2017 17:02:07
Idk Reilly is better in potential then Armia. So probably a no from Minny.

14 Aug 2017 22:16:29
Draisaitl is overrated

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15 Aug 2017 00:14:13
Then why do you post trades trying to get him on the Habs?

15 Aug 2017 00:14:59
Are you MontrealsFinests like, 6th name in the last few years?

15 Aug 2017 02:33:06
For now yes, If he can Center his own line and produce numbers close to this past season then we will be saying that his rating right now is accurate.

Right now his overrated comes from the "product of McDavid line". I personally like Draisaitl and think he has it in him to be very good. Can he be as good without McDavid? Yes or maybe not. We have to wait and see.

Either way Oilers aren't trading him regardless of overrating or underrating.

15 Aug 2017 15:41:12
How can u say he is overrated? he's what, 21? 22? He doesn't always play with McDavid. and sometimes, when he does. people forget, he makes McDavid better as well.
Hes young, a Beast. and only getting better. there are games, that as good as McDavid is, if you were a first time viewer of hockey, ya wouldn't know who the Superstar was? Is it the giy who wears 97 or 29. now i'm not saying Drais is better, not at all. but he's not jus McDavids sidekick.
And KeyHabs. if we had him, he'd be a God, and youd say people don't give him enough credit.

 


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