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05 May 2019 16:42:04
Looks like the oilers have a new Gm

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06 May 2019 01:32:53
Not a huge Holland fan but big upgrade great with RFAs and had a great drafting resume in Detroit hopefully he can carry that over to Edmonton. Trading Lucic at all costs should be his number 1 priority tho.

06 May 2019 05:36:39
Totally disagree VB. The cost to trade Lucic will be to big I’m assuming. Russell at 4M for 2 more years is tradeable. And possibly Sekera at 5.5M for 2 years could be traded for a lot less than it would take to get rid of Lucic.
If Lucic spends his summer on the ice and learns how to stick handle again he could be a suuuuper expensive 3rd liner and get 30 points a season.

Callahan (5.8M) hasn’t hit 30 points in 4 seasons and hasn’t gotten 20 points in 3 seasons but like you said he brings leadership. I think they’ll need to shed cap elsewhere and eat Lucics contract for at least a couple more seasons.

06 May 2019 13:51:48
I disagree i don’t think Lucic belongs in the nhl he’s only getting worse the team that takes him would either buy him out or sit him in the press box if they’re smart. Heck I don’t even think he’d be serviceable in the AHL. In the ECHL I think he’d really help out a team tho.

06 May 2019 19:27:37
Well if they bought him out they’d be paying him for 8 years I don’t think that’s smart at all. Also a couple of those years the way buyouts work they’d only be saving 400,000. 20-30 points in the NHL isn’t worthy of the AHL?
Obviously his contract is crazy bad an a lot of people seen that even before it was signed but there is worse out there.

06 May 2019 22:27:52
Sounds like even Lucic is pushing for a Lucic for Loui Eriksson trade and I wouldn’t be opposed to that at all. Lucic is a 3/ 4 liner at this point and should be a healthy scratch at least 10 games a season. He just doesn’t have it anymore.

07 May 2019 02:07:35
Right I buyout would be stupid In that case but his stats are also inflated by McDavid as most of them were from him my Knowledge.

And Finally... Multi-Sport Athletes

04 May 2019 17:54:30
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, And Finally... Multi-Sport Athletes

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04 May 2019 19:20:54
Didn't know Jim brown was a dominant lacrosse player. Not too surprised though cause the guy was an absolute beast.

{Ed001's Note - nor did I until I was researching the article. He is a minority owner of a lacrosse team as well.}

04 May 2019 15:25:33
This isn't a trade post, but rather a question.

I keep seeing these William Nylander trades. You guys do realize he's already resigned in Toronto right? Do you also realize that a big reason he did re sign with Toronto was because of a promise made by Kyle Dubas himself (the Leafs gm) that however long Dubas is in charge of the Leafs that nylander WILL NOT be traded whatsoever!

So in order for Nylander to be traded Dubas MUST be fired or demoted first, that much is common sense people.

Besides that, after his dismal return to the Leafs and poor playoff performance, even if it was possible to trade him, with that contract to boot, his value would be equal to or less than that of Bobby Ryan's at this point.

Think about it, who in their right mind would pay top dollar for a guy who's making 7+ million a season, has trouble producing offence, is afraid to go in the corners, and plays with no Hart? At least with Bobby Ryan he does back check and does play the corners and does play with heart in his game, not to mention his contract is nearly over while Nylanders just beginning lol just sayin.

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04 May 2019 16:57:06
as a sens fan I can't believe you're comparing Nylander to ryan value wise, look at the age difference to begin. bobby ryan is a complete bum at every end of the ice, anyone who denies that isn't watching sens games. zero intensity whatsoever and the sens will not have a chance at winning until his contract expires!

04 May 2019 17:18:14
I've been told, and told women that we were going to stay together forever, and well . things change, as what could happen in the Nylander/ Dubas situation.
Obviously Nylander hasn't performed up to standards, however last season is over. Let's see what a summer of no drama, a full camp does for him. If he has the same season as he did this one, then we can all criticize him. I think he's a good player, and jus needs to find his confidence again, which I beleive he will.
However, If I was Dubas, he would be a player I'd dangle in the market to shore up the D.
And. Let's not compare him to Bobby Ryan.

04 May 2019 17:20:49
If the leafs want to trade nylander the fact Dubas said he wouldn't trade him will make very little difference.

04 May 2019 17:21:48
You’re right. GM’s have NEVER said one thing and then done something that conflicts with what they said. What a room temperature IQ comment.

Dubas also never said nylander will ‘not be traded whatsoever’. But hey if it helps you feel better about Ottawa finishing dead last, not having their first round pick, having no direction, a cheap owner who won’t pay what it takes to retain his star players, and everything else that makes Ottawa a dumpster fire of an organization, you do you kiddo.

04 May 2019 17:50:44
The only reason the Leafs trade Nylander is to free up cap space from his bad contract.

04 May 2019 20:36:05
Rambo even gets burned by a fellow sens fan, lol.

05 May 2019 13:07:55
Everyone is saying Nylander is over payed but 2 seasons ago he was just as good as Marner before he had this break out season. You all will be shutting your mouths when Nylander hits 95 points next season. His contract has potential to be a steal. No defence but unreal offensive ability’s.

05 May 2019 14:05:42
I think 95 points is quite a reach. He has all the talent but zero heart. Maybe he does some soul searching in the offseason and comes back a different player, but that kind of change is almost unheard of at this point (you either have that drive or you don’t) .

That said, I think last season was an anomaly and that he’s a 30 goal / 30 assist player in an average season, which at $7mln is sort of par for the course (I have a problem with him making more than Pasta but he’s probably about overpaid by about a million which is not horrendous) . If the Leafs were smart they would put him back with Matthews to start the season to try and get him going again, and then trade him for defensive help assuming he gets off to a good start and props his value back up.

Shoulda coulda woulda, but the Leafs should have traded him as soon as he held out last season, even it it meant trading him at a discount for a good defense prospect or something. Would have sent a message to the other guys looking to play hardball and they probably could have gotten matthews (and marner) signed to long term deals at a way lower cap hit (marner for sure) . It was pretty obvious Marner was going to put up career numbers after they signed Tavares. Dubas effed up.

05 May 2019 15:11:15
I agree 100% with unsportsmanlike. 60 point guy is about right, 95 I hope vbb’s. The contract is not bad and no he doesn’t play with heart. Every team has those guys. Nobody plays like Bobby Ryan though, lol. Rambo must be lurking in the weeds somewhere after realizing he’s on his own again.

06 May 2019 22:34:18
😂😂😂
Yeah, businessmen never talk BS.
Grow up. Nylander is trade fodder, that’s just the way it is. Not saying he’ll get traded, I actually doubt he will, but to say he won’t because of a “promise” is absurd. You can’t actually believe that’s keeping a trade from happening, can you?

01 May 2019 17:42:26
What do you guys think Karlsson will sigh for now?? Has being on a good team/ on same team as Burns overshadowed his value?? At one point he seemed like a top 5 player in league.. now,not sure he is even a top 5 Dman..

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01 May 2019 18:06:38
Honestly he was never a top5 dman.

By this i mean he should have been considered a forward. He got points and was a below to average defensive dman. He was also injury prone. His team never accomplished anything with him on it other than a few playoff births.

01 May 2019 19:30:22
Well Colt. he did win a couple Norris trophies as NHLs best Dman.
Regardless, he was/ is viewed as a top Dman in the game. I jus want to know what you all think he is worth now? I wouldn't pay him 10+, but some team will.
Personally, I'd say 8.5.

01 May 2019 19:36:46
agree with Redwing, he has also been playing a career with no real talent anywhere else on the ice but in goal. I truly believe the sens padded his stats and ice time regardless of how poor the defensive side of his game was, playing with other gifted players in San Jose he doesn't get to take 100% of the offensive chances like it did in ottawa. I believe agreeing to be traded without an extension was a huge mistake for him for July 1.

01 May 2019 20:50:48
Karlsson to NJ for 7 years at 80mil.

01 May 2019 21:00:23
Ya think he gets that much hey VB? Your probably right , I still prefer him at 8.5, which I know is light.
Why Jersey? Jus wondering why you think he goes there? Cause they have the Cap room?

01 May 2019 21:58:32
I've heard rumors that the Rangers are trying to get panarin, but if they miss out they're making a pitch to get karlsson but I still believe Tampa could be in the mix because of their tax rate combined with the new jerseys and new Yorks not wanting to give 11.5 for 7 years for a guy hitting the wrong side of 30.

02 May 2019 02:31:26
I think NJ because Ray Shero is a bold GM and with Taylor hall ( without Karlsson And Hughes ) they were a contender. NJ has the cap space and I believe with Karlsson, Hughes and a healthy Hall they are a contender. Tampa is going to have trouble signing Vais and Point let alone adding Karlsson.

02 May 2019 13:09:26
I don’t think 1 8th seed playoff appearance (and elimination in 5) makes them a contender when it’s sandwiched by 1st overall picks. They should be set up pretty good for the future but they aren’t a top 10 NHL team or anything m.

02 May 2019 21:24:52
like i stated in my post above. The norris isn't about defense any more its basically the rocket richard trophy for position dmen. Karlson is horrible as an actual defender.

03 May 2019 13:47:13
There has only been a couple times in history that the best defensive defenseman won the Norris so this isn't really anything new.

04 May 2019 18:47:51
Karlson is not horrible as an actual defender. he's decent be not solid. Deff not horrible tho.

08 May 2019 00:55:44
no no I Redwing is right, ever see when he's playing a 1 on 1 and he pivots the wrong way and the guy just breezes past him? like wtf? it's the nhl, shouldn't someone have corrected him back in atom or pee-wee?

30 Apr 2019 19:16:36
Should the NHL making diving a suspension next season after the Lindell incident?

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01 May 2019 04:41:34
Fines. but not a suspension. leave the suspensions for the dangerous reckless plays.

01 May 2019 04:47:26
I think they already can be fined though? Not sure.

01 May 2019 05:59:59
Exactly sosa they can be fined. It does nothing and why should it when these guys make millions? Diving is not only an embarrassment to the game but also makes the refs jobs harder.

I’d love to see the obvious ones get suspensions. The problem is where do you draw the line between fining and suspending. Suspend only on repeat offenders? Or depending on the severity of the dive? Either way I hope hockey doesn’t turn into soccer.

01 May 2019 07:05:03
It will be tough to get everyone cause it happens a lot. I'd also like to see the extra shot a player gives their opponent when they know they are already getting a penalty being policed a bit better. The Bruins have mastered this technique over the years.

01 May 2019 14:43:30
I guess something along the lines of Basketball? They have that one, so many technical fouls, ya sit a game? Maybe something along those lines. 5 a year, sit a game? I don't really know, what the answer is . I do see your point though Ebsolutley.

01 May 2019 18:13:27
I think it should be as follows

1st offense- warning let him know that the punishment starts next tim

2nd offense - 25k fine to be donated to a hockey fund for retired and injured players.

3rd offense 50K fine 10 min misconduct ejection 1 game suspension

4th offense 75k fine 5 minute major ejection 3 game suspension

5th offense 100k fine 5 minute major ejection 7 game suspension

Just make it insane to pull this bull rubbish.

01 May 2019 22:53:51
But then we have to rely on the refs judgement for something else and we really don't need that.

02 May 2019 00:20:04
Or just let the refs hand out 2 minute penalties and let the league take care of the fines and suspensions Habby.

Redwing I like your idea but might be some legal issues with trying to fine guys that much. But I don’t see why the suspensions can’t get bigger with every dive you take. Then maybe restart for the next season?

02 May 2019 21:05:06
from what i understand there is a CBA limit on fines. But maybee a fine plus when your suspended your pay for that game is forfeited.

02 May 2019 21:07:17
This is what they are already suppose to be doing. Ebs.

03 May 2019 01:16:00
The fines get bigger but no suspensions isn’t it Habby? I say one fine then straight to suspensions.
I don’t know why they don’t at least crack down on it with fines. In a season there’s probably a million cases of guys throwing there heads back that don’t even get touched by a stick that can at least be heavily fined.

Sporting Icons 1: Ben Hogan - Golf

27 Apr 2019 23:49:36
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Sporting Icons 1: Ben Hogan - Golf

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28 Apr 2019 03:04:35
Another good read. I don't follow golf as much now as I did 10 years ago but I always considered hogan as the 3rd best golfer of all time.

{Ed001's Note - cheers Habby. Shame he couldn't putt after his injuries, otherwise imagine the %ages he would have won?}

27 Apr 2019 04:12:13
Lots of talk about how all of our Canadian teams did .. , so now with all that done,, what band wagon are you guys jumping on .. and why?? Or did some of ya say ,, screw it lol.

I guess I'll say SanJose,, be nice to see Thornton win..

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27 Apr 2019 06:59:53
Anyone but Boston I'm not worried yet cause I still don't think they have a prayer anyway.

27 Apr 2019 08:22:11
I’m with you Sosa. Being a leaf fan I’ve needed a team to cheer for in the playoffs team for years. I’ve always liked San Jose because they beat the wings. Joe Pavelski is still my favourite player because he’s a wing killer and big Joe needs a cup. I live in Windsor, being a border city Detroit fans were nasty. They’ve been quiet for a couple years but Yzerman might change that.

27 Apr 2019 21:00:48
I think I’ll hop on the Dallas bandwagon.

27 Apr 2019 22:25:34
I like the aves. not necessarily this year but man oh man, with the young d men they have coming and a top 5 pick this year they’re going to be a great team for years. They’re a goalie away from being a top contender.

26 Apr 2019 13:38:20
What did you think of the terror senko walking of Miro H and AVOIDING the poke check and roofing that puck. Frank the tank is sick as hell.

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27 Apr 2019 00:14:43
Never saw it.

26 Apr 2019 02:20:46
i understand that internets main purpose is to use words to tear each other apart, but i don't understand how fans of this canadian team can spew any garbage about this canadian team. they all suck at what matters most and that's winning the cup.

youre all a bunch of whiners and babies with some butt hurt diaper rash.

everyone hates the leafs, we have the worst fans in the entirety of hockey. this is fact, and i'm one of them, youll never meet a worse group of people on social media than on a leaf fan page.

like it or not the leafs have a good core of talented young players, what they do with that is up to them, it has nothing to do with the fans or their delusions.

in terms of value, i mean come on, numbers don't lie,

young point per game players are top players? is that not the bar most people set?

young 60+ point dmen are top dmen?

and any fan of any team with a young top player shouldn't think that garners top return?
roster player, prospect pick?

but not delusional to think youd would get top value for a top player? is that unreasonable?

60-70 point forward
40 point d

value? late 1st and prospect? 2 prospects? slight downgrade roster player and good pick and prospect?


40- 50 point 2nd 3rd liners get reasonable value? prospect and 2nbd? late first? delusional?


am i crazy?

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26 Apr 2019 06:45:33
No your not crazy I'd have to agree with everything you say there. So if your crazy I am too.

26 Apr 2019 07:20:52
I agree

25 Apr 2019 22:06:36
Okay, let's do something here:

Who are the Top Players on Canadian teams? let's just settle something. i'm not picking at Winnipeg, or Montreal or anyone. Just generally. Cause none of us have won since 93. We can't be picking at one another just because we ‘won one more series’

Im not going to rank, i'm just going to put in tiers and separate based on position:

Forwards:
T1: McDavid
T2: Johnny, Tavares, Matthews, Drais, Marner, Wheeler, Schief, Monahan, Petterson.
T3: Laine, Lindholm, Boeser, Domi, Tkachuk, Gallagher
T4: RNH, Ehlers, Horvat, Nylander

Defence:
T1: Rielly, Giordano, Chabot
T2: Buff, Weber
T3: Trouba, Morrissey, Muzzin, Petry

Goalie:
1. Price
2. Freddy
3. Hellebyuck.

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26 Apr 2019 02:17:12
Let's do something else and just drop the whole subject. People are biased for their own team and your no different and I'm not saying it to put you down cause I am too. Just don't be like Jim was here and not be able to admit your bias and I really won't have an issue with you or anyone else.

26 Apr 2019 11:55:05
Oh i'm cool with that. I just don't want this whole ‘talk’ section to turn into a leaf hate forum cause that's what it kinda became in the previous posts. I’m not afraid to say that i’m biased and that the leafs as a whole didn’t have a superb playoff. But that shouldn’t mean the first thing that other fans do is come here and say ‘ha ha laffs 67 losers since 67 golfing szn’ when in reality, none of our teams have done anythinh since 93, and we shouldn’t have so much hate for one another.

26 Apr 2019 18:12:53
If Morrissey is on there I think Nurse and Klefbom should as well, maybe Larsson too.

27 Apr 2019 00:41:10
@ebs will admit that i forget them. i'd add klef and larsson to the third tier, and i'd put connor in the forward group as well.

 


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