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05 Mar 2018 18:28:13
Price suck but so dose toews
Mon price
Hawk toews 1rnd draft 2 rnd draft sadd.

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05 Mar 2018 18:48:42
Wowzer can you be the gm of montreal please lol?

05 Mar 2018 21:52:29
Jonathan Towes, Hibestroxa

Price,2rd pick 2018.

06 Mar 2018 03:25:44
I'm suprised us Habs fans haven't been banned. lol.

06 Mar 2018 04:11:32
This place would be boring without habs fans Sosa.

06 Mar 2018 20:34:44
Hahahahaha. True that Sosa.

07 Mar 2018 21:48:54
I'm surprise yup hasn't been banned.

04 Mar 2018 03:28:47
The all white uniforms by Toronto are terrible!

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04 Mar 2018 04:00:07
The uniforms aren’t as terrible as they have played lol cool spectacle but outdoor games are always crap hockey. I like the point of making them like the naval uniform, but blue pants may have been better. Just tried making them different than the last 2 outdoor games I guess.

04 Mar 2018 05:15:45
Yeah the outdoor thing is getting a little over played.

04 Mar 2018 06:17:39
They should have done a winter classic on New Years every year and that’s it. Then it would still be a big deal and feel special. Instead, I forgot they even had this game till 10 days ago looking ahead at the schedule. Only positive of them is that the revenue is massive and that’s what helps the salary cap rise. 20 outdoor games over the last 5 years probably gave each team an additional $7-8 mill in cap space.

04 Mar 2018 13:36:45
They are trying to grow the game with these games. Have whole weekend festivities. Sometimes alumni games. Sometimes AHL games day after. Concerts. While weekend of hockey festivities trying to gain more fans with this experience. That's the idea behind so many. Just like going to China and Europe for games. Just trying to expand their product to more people.

04 Mar 2018 21:59:57
@yup. I agree that’s the point, but I just mean for guys like us, already fans, it’s really lost it’s appeal and uniqueness, that’s all. When they only did the winter classic, and the heritage classic I guess, it was really cool. But when there's 4-5 a season it just doesn’t have the same feel.

03 Mar 2018 23:00:06
I'm not sure if this has been suggested before but what about a deal with Price & Tavares being the main pieces? It may be far fetched but some type of sign and trade to lock Tavares up for years to come. NY has the worst goaltending in the league and Montreal needs a #1 center. Anyone have any suggestions of a way that this could work?

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03 Mar 2018 23:29:20
Love the idea leafs17 not sure if either team would go along with it though.

03 Mar 2018 23:49:05
I really don’t know how to value these players. Obviously goalies are crucial to a teams success. I’m sure Price will bounce back to form but his injuries are a concern. I would think Tavares holds much more value but I could be wrong.

04 Mar 2018 00:55:42
I would say how the other goalies for montreal have played in his absence he shouldn't hold much value at all. if he hadn't played at all this year habs would easily be in the playoffs as far as I'm concerned.

04 Mar 2018 04:06:44
Habby, stop picking on habs players please. Price is an all world goalie. Stop hating.

Also if you think price is the only reason habs aren’t a good team and in the playoffs, well, that tells everyone a lot about your thought process lol.

04 Mar 2018 10:31:39
Jim watch a habs game and then give your opinion. Google the numbers with him playing and compare them to the other goalies. we all know how good you are at using google shouldn't be hard to find.

04 Mar 2018 10:29:52
Wrong. Price has lost value since he's the best goalie in the work and not a ufa like Tavares.

04 Mar 2018 22:17:36
A lot of times team defence changes based on who’s in the net too. Guys have more confidence when certain guys play. I haven’t watched every game and I know his numbers weren’t up to his standard at all, but if he’s the only reason you think they aren’t a playoff team, I think that’s crazy.

I’d say they aren’t in playoff picture because goaltending wasn’t good enough, because their captain and best player pacioretty is on pace for his lowest offensive season since 2009/ 10, the 2 next best offensive weapons on the team, drouin and galchenyuk, barely put up a point per game combined (72 pts through 65 GP), a 25th ranked PK and 28th in the the league in goals for.

Not an excuse for price, but he is obviously not the only reason habs don’t make the playoffs. He can’t score goals too. Unless you think all the offence should be allowed to dry up from the best players and the goalies should be on the hook to keep the puck out.

04 Mar 2018 22:32:02
Harder to score goals when your playing from behind all the time. This goaltending would have resulted in more goals for as we'll cause they would have held the fort long enough for the offense to contribute instead of being out of games halfway through the first period due to hortible goaltending.

05 Mar 2018 01:22:53
I hope for the sake of carry price that he does get traded. If a team like the jets wanted to go all in and make a trade for him they’d be intant cup favourites! Montreal fans are absolutely ridiculous when it comes to loyalty to its players! I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, price was lights out the last handful of seasons of course besides the current season and if he had a actual team in front of him he’d be the goat! as a price fan there’s nothing I’d like to see more than a repeat of what they did to Roy. Habs don’t deserve him. Last time I checked it’s a team game and if you think it’s hard to win/ score when playing from behind it’s even harder to win impossible I hear to win when you can’t score goals or play any sort of defence.

05 Mar 2018 02:32:09
Defence looks pretty good lately mertle. loyalty means nothing these days so if the players don't care about loyalty then why should the fans? On top of that I'm the only hab fan saying price should be traded so you don't need to lump all hab fans on here in that category. i said after kreider ran price in the playoffs a few years ago the first chance they got they should have traded him and I been saying it ever since. after an AHL calibre goalie came in and played the rest of that series almost as good as price was playing that was enough for me. now we are seeing another ahl goalie and a waiver pickup out playing him. Every time he gets bumped in the crease I assume he's going to be injured and if he came back next year and lead the habs to the cup I'd still say to trade him . But that's just me you or anyone else don't have to like it.

05 Mar 2018 02:32:42
Plus the jets should be just fine without him they have a good enough goalie.

05 Mar 2018 03:17:21
Not me Mertle . I want him to retire a Hab! The only reason i'd ever want to see him leave, is for a cup.

05 Mar 2018 03:45:43
Habby, you accused me of picking on pacioretty for days and for being biased, I would assume that means you feel your assessment of him is accurate. But now you are making excuses for him and everyone else on the team for a lacklustre season by throwing price under the bus as the ONLY reason your teams not in the playoffs. You’re officially an idiot instead of a passionate fan. Price is the best player, in any position, to play for that team since Patrick Roy. Top 3 offensive weapons are having bad seasons and you still can’t admit that, instead you blame the entire season on a goalie battling injury problems. No wonder the team is bad, there’s zero accountability. Management, to coaches to fans just blame their failures on injured players instead of the poor play of the players who are actually on the ice. What a joke.

05 Mar 2018 03:53:42
I’m sorry, I just don’t like when players that have given everything they have to a team and get thrown under the bus after going through a slump. It’d be like saying taveres is the reason the islanders haven’t won a cup since he’s been there. just not fair to a player or a person in general to get rubbish on when they aren’t the best day in and day out.
Also I’m quite aware that the jets wouldn’t go after price I just wanted to use them as a example as a team that plays like a team how dominant they’d be with a goalie of careys caliber (not to say hellybuk isn’t good or isn’t going to get better) . Sosa I’m glad to see someone who actually shows loyalty to a guy that’s been the backbone of s mediocre team, give credit where it’s due and without Carey in prior years I have a hard time believing there would have been any playoffs for the Habs. I’m in the same boat as you, I’d
Love to see him win a conn smyth somewhere other than Montreal.

05 Mar 2018 05:00:54
Jim I'm talking about a player on my team unlike you who just talks about other teams players there lies the difference. But to explain my point even further seeing as though you must love to read my comments jim. It's not that I don't like price or don't think he's a good goalie but he sucked this year plain and simple. Was there a reason for it? I'm sure there was probably several. But that don't make up for the fact he's damaged goods IMO and they can sit back like they did with saku koivu and watch one of the best players in the league for a year slowly turn into a 3 rd line center because of constant injuries and ailments or they if they get the chance which I doubt they will, trade him. My vote is on the latter and I stick by it. Because if there Is a chance of moving him now I seriously doubt it will be there in a year or two.

05 Mar 2018 13:05:38
I’m not against trying to trade the guy away with that contract. It could make sense. It’s just brutal to come right out and say he is the ONLY reason that they don’t make the playoffs. 4-5 top players on that team didn’t meet expectations and have a good season. They all share blame. When the guy that’s been the start and carries that team to the playoffs multiple times by standing on his head when the team couldn't score, maybe when he struggles the forwards, especially the leaders like patches should feel it’s their responsibility to pick up the slack and try to bail him like he has bailed them out for 5 years, rather than using it as an excuse again.

Also I have talked about leafs players. I’ve said multiple times that JVR is a defensive liability, very one dimensional, Great within 20 feet of the opponents net and next to useless anywhere else on the ice. I’d say that’s comparable to saying patches is a really good sniper but doesn’t do a lot else. And when ranking the 3 we were talking about at the time I said simmonds>patches>JVR because JVR is even softer than patches.

05 Mar 2018 16:48:01
There you go again I never said price was the only reason. I said if he didn't play at all this year they would be in the playoffs which means a variety of things. The players appear to have much more confidence playing in front of niemi and lindgren it seems. or at least they try harder so this would lead possibly to a little more scoring and without a doubt more wins. several things could be going on there the one I'm leaning toward is because of prices injury history the players don't play the same in front of him as they did in previous years. every time he gets bumped he's injured and this plays on everyone's mind. so what's the solution trade everyone other then price and leave him in net until he's crippled to the point you have to carry him out and lay him down in the crease?

05 Mar 2018 17:47:22
You’re solution was probably the right one 18-24 months ago if that’s how you felt. Trade price for a massive package and rebuild. But once the Weber for subban and sergachev for drouin (to a lesser degree because drouin is still young too) trades happened, coupled with trading for and signing shaw, and signing alzner, they have made a commitment to guys in their late 20s and 30s over youth and identified themselves as a win now, or win soon team rather than being patient. Now if they want to reverse that, it’s a long road back and trading the best player but not doing a full flip of the roster does nothing but keeps them mediocre.

05 Mar 2018 18:19:57
I've been saying rebuild since they lost to the rangers. This is nothing new from me. i expect patches to be traded along with a couple others anyway. Having a few veterans on the team doesn't signify you can't rebuild. it doesn't hurt to have those guys to help the younger guys. leafs have signed martin hainsey and marleau during there rebuild. players like droin gallahger galchenyuk mete juulsen lehkonen hudon are all young enough to be around for a rebuild. But my opinion is if the habs unloaded some of the older guys who are easily replaced and handed the reigns to some of the younger guys the team would be better off anyway. Doesn't need to be a total rebuild just a culture change.

05 Mar 2018 18:30:26
An example of this happened at the deadline when they traded plekanec. Daneult can easily replace him for cheaper as the teams 3rd line center. But because of stupidity or what some call loyalty they will probably resign plekanec to a 2 year 8mil deal this summer and bring him back. they will have 2 3rd line centers and still not have a 1st. they have arguably the best goaltending depth in the league with lindgren mcniven hawkey and most of all cayden primeau all showing promise. But yet they are building around a 10.5 mil crippled goaltender. Plekanec 4 mil and prices 10.5 is 14.5 mil you think if they offer tavares that he doesn't snatch it up. There's your 1st line center.

05 Mar 2018 18:35:59
That's not necessarily the route I would take personally just an example. They say 1st line centers are not availible but it gets to the point where your not getting them cause your resources are tied up in others because of this loyalty thing again. they won't trade price because of loyalty I mean what else is keeping him there? There was no talk of trading patch till he had a down year this year now it's been front page news since before Christmas have he not given his all the last 5 years? how come no talk of price being traded? It's one of two reasons loyalty or nobody else wants him .

05 Mar 2018 19:33:13
Just to be clear when I said lost to the rangers I meant the year they lost to them in the conference finals not last year.

05 Mar 2018 09:05:22
You’re right with leafs having martin and Marleau and Hainsey around as mentors and veterans through a rebuild, the difference is tho that 2 of those guys are cheap and only signed for another year and two respectively.

Marleau isn’t cheap, but only has 2 years after this and is still putting up good numbers along with being a leader and example. I think shea Weber is probably the best leader and example for youth of how to be a leader and a pro anywhere in the league, problem is it’s only a matter of time before his on ice game slips and then it’s a long time of paying a guy 7.5 mill to be an assistant coach out there.

Like you said, having veterans doesn’t mean you can’t rebuild, but having guys taking up that kinda cap space for that many years is not a good thing at this point. You can find great character/ leader/ examples every July 1st for 3 mill or less on 1, 2 or 3 year terms. But what’s done is done, MB put them in a hole. I’d be scared as a fan if Molson's thinks he’s the guy to lead them out of that same hole.

06 Mar 2018 12:32:38
How did habs-4 get credit for my comment? Haha one of them is a GM, one is a former player and one is a ghost hacker LOL.

06 Mar 2018 15:31:33
And the other poster is a know it all jim. What's your point?

06 Mar 2018 15:40:49
@ habs4cup I'm not concerned about weber the guy played on one foot for 20 some games this year and still looked like a top defenseman. with the cap going up in 4 years when he starts to decline his cap hit won't look near as bad. if he gets that bad habs can probably do like the leafs done with lupol or he will retire and Nashville will be on the hook for the remainder of his contract. i would agree though about the other big long term contract on the team. we don't need to pay 10.5 a year for a beat up goalie when we have guys coming through the system that can do the job.

07 Mar 2018 17:35:41
I think you missed what happened there. That post is what I wrote, but it says it’s from Habs4Cup lol you’re replying to someone who didn’t write that. I did.

07 Mar 2018 17:36:25
For some reason it just says that he/ she did.

07 Mar 2018 19:03:16
Lol maybe the administrator knows how much you love the habs so he changed yor name.

03 Mar 2018 21:55:25
Mikhail sergachev last 24 games
Gp. G. A. Pts. +_
24. 0. 6. 6. -9
Maybe we should talk about that for awhile I mean how bad do you have to be to put up numbers as bad as that In A 24 game stretch on a team as good as tampa? My guess is when mcdonagh is ready to play ole serg is going to ride the pine

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03 Mar 2018 22:49:48
Tell me about it. I picked him up in my fantasy pool when he was hot and then he disappeared. I just dropped him yesterday. Tampa scored 7 goals today and not a point. Did he even play, lol.

03 Mar 2018 23:26:35
He’s a friggin rookie defencemen! Not all defencemen are drew doughty and Karlson’s that doesn’t mean he doesn’t need the experience. You’re just bitter that your GM traded him away. It took Hedman multiple years to get to where
He’s at, Provorov didn’t blow up the score sheet last year and he’s still considered a top tier defence. Also the fact that he plays on a good team gives them more reason to let him play and let him mature, nothing wrong with him being the role player and not the “go to” guy right away.

03 Mar 2018 23:30:05
Yeah he played. zero points minus 2.

04 Mar 2018 01:00:13
I couldn't care less if he out scores Paul Coffey or if he never plays again. just hearing a lot about how awesome he is and don't really see the stats to back it up. But I guess he was pretty good for 20 games or so. Sort of like how people were ready to hang bergevin for trading beaulieau but now that everyone can see he sucks people don't bring it up.

04 Mar 2018 01:55:25
@mertle. You’re just supposed to agree with him now. Not a hab anymore = garbage. New forum rules, surprised you didn’t get the memo. On that note:

You’re correct Habby, sergachev is crap. MB did a great job forseeing this slump and got him out of that thriving organization just in time before he dragged them down!

04 Mar 2018 03:51:36
No need to pick on rookies lol. be nice Habby.

04 Mar 2018 05:21:25
Guys it wasn't meant as a shot at sergachev it was directed to those who think he's a god. I'm sure we see some of them post here.

04 Mar 2018 05:23:14
Skokie sookie jim I knew I'd get to you lol.

04 Mar 2018 08:04:05
Lol so much salt, its hilarious.

04 Mar 2018 10:21:13
Jonathan Drouin last 30 games
30 5 10 15
Maybe we should talk about how unproductive Drouin has been been the last 30 games despite playing over 17 minutes per game and well over 3 minutes per game on the powerplay?

04 Mar 2018 13:52:23
I think its a coaching thing. He made some bad turnovers and i bet Coop is trying to get him to reel it in a bit and take fewer risks. He still makes some unbelievable plays but the team as a whole has been struggling. Look at the scoresheet yesterday Tampa scored 7 goals and it was all Stamkos Hedman Kucherov really.

04 Mar 2018 15:04:25
Charles that's who everyone has been talking about all along. That was the point of my post. try and keep up.

03 Mar 2018 21:14:24
Canucks tanev baertschi goldobin

Oiler 1 rd pick

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03 Mar 2018 18:10:53
Mete and pacioretty will both be out tonight can this team stop getting points now please. Or will rinat vailev step in tonight and look like a top pair dman?

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04 Mar 2018 01:01:19
And they still get a point in the 2nd game of a back to back against one of the best teams in the league. Sheesh!

04 Mar 2018 10:22:11
Probably not.

03 Mar 2018 16:14:50
Is Drouin the biggest bust of the 2013 draft?

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03 Mar 2018 16:45:44
No shinkurak is lol.

03 Mar 2018 16:45:59
Or morin or poirer.

03 Mar 2018 16:47:58
Or rychel or lazar or nichuskin or klimchuk.

03 Mar 2018 17:01:09
Lol no.

04 Mar 2018 10:23:30
No but it does look bad when an undersized middling 2nd line winger is sandwiched inbetween players like MacKinnon, Barkov, Jones, Monahan and even Lindholm to an extent.

04 Mar 2018 10:28:42
No obviously right now he would be ranked number 3. I still think in a couple of years he could be a 70 points even 80 points player. He's proven enough that we know he'll be an impact player in the league but not enough to be the 3 best player of that draft. i'd say in a redraft he still goes top 5.

04 Mar 2018 15:06:22
But steve yzerman is such a genius how did he ever waste a draft pick on a bust like drouin?

04 Mar 2018 22:25:54
I’d say in a draft re-rank it’s still mackinnon at 1, then drouin, Michael mccarron, zach fucale, Jacob de la rose, Sven andrighetto, with barkov, Jones and monahan close behind.

Probably close, right Habby?

04 Mar 2018 22:32:55
Why is mackinnon still at first?

04 Mar 2018 22:34:53
I was thinking gauthier would go first in a re draft right biased jim?

05 Mar 2018 03:49:00
Nope gauthier is an AHLer, maybe a fourth liner eventually but probably too slow to play for Babcock. because you know, the games get faster and harder come April. Let’s do a re rank of the 2005 draft tho. you would have price in the 5th round instead of 5th overall because he’s worse than your AHL goalies, right? Idiot.

05 Mar 2018 03:54:30
I look at who I would trade one for one when I do these things. You always skip around the fact that you think pacioretty is nearly untouchable, he’s like a god to you, and yet like a redraft, who would trade their best player one for one for him?!?! No one in the league. He’s not the best player on any team except Montreal and on a lot of teams he’s not even the 4th or 5th best player. Ppl are allowed to look and notice that and say it. It doesn’t make them biased. It makes them realists. I’m not going to lost every player on every team that’s better than him, but you look at rosters and find a team he’s the best player on. Can’t do it.

05 Mar 2018 05:07:29
Jim pacioretty isn't a god to me. Have I once argued with you over whether or not he's better then any teams top player? no that's just another nonsense remark by you to try and make me look wrong. I have argued with you on whether or not he's better the some other teams 4th or 5th best player. My last argument with you was how saad was more physical then pacioretty. Remember how you didn't anwser that one I guess you just realized how stupid it was to say that considering it's so easy to look up stats which prove different.

05 Mar 2018 05:23:10
But please go ahead and say how saad went to the front of the net 4 more times this year or how he spends 30 seconds more in the corner digging for pucks over the course of a season. jim unlike you when I'm comparing players I look at how they have played over there careers not just how they play for 3/ 4 of a season. i mean marner played a nice chunk of this year as a bottom 6.doesnt mean he's bad he was just struggling for awhile . In the case of patch vs saad both have sucked this year. I know saad is younger and signed for longer term but the argument wasn't who will be better in 4 years it was who is better now and based on previous seasons and even this year I think it's pretty obvious.

05 Mar 2018 13:24:30
Actually it was a trade proposal. So it would be who you would want on your team going forward. Not who is better today. When it’s a trade proposal I look at for the duration of their contracts obviously. And you argued that patches with a year left was better to have than saad who is like 4 years younger, signed longer and has championships to his name. You’re switching what it was now. It was a trade proposal, remember?

05 Mar 2018 13:27:55
You can go to the top of the page, press ‘NHL Trade Rumors’ and scroll down to see it was a trade proposal of saad for patches. And habs fans saying Chicago has to add to ‘dump’ saads salary haha.

05 Mar 2018 16:55:09
When it came down to what you and I were arguing about it was over who's better or that's how I took it. Either way where is all the data supporting your main argument of how saad is better cause he is more physical? I've asked 3 tines for this now.

03 Mar 2018 08:02:43
Mon traded Byron and glacenyuk and 4 and 5 rnd draft

Flyer trade geroux provorov.

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03 Mar 2018 17:11:11
100% fair for both teams lol. May be add Patches and 2 first from mtl.

03 Mar 2018 02:44:21
Not saying it will happen but I bet montreal looks pretty good to johnny T right now.with the hab fans that were in attendance tonight he probably though he was at the bell center anyway

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03 Mar 2018 09:49:25
Yeah I'm sure he's attracted to a team in a downward spiral with pretty much no young talent to build around, a horrible GM, a bad coach and 20m tied up in an aging goalie and a soon washed up D for almost the next decade. Sure sounds enticing.

03 Mar 2018 16:05:45
Any team would look good with John Tevares!

03 Mar 2018 16:09:55
But yet the islanders who were fighting for there playoff lives just lost 2 games in a row to them. not saying it would be his first choice but I'm really starting to think he won't be signing with the islanders.

03 Mar 2018 16:43:11
Why would a kid from Toronto play for Montreal. Not saying he will go to Toronto. I'm just don't see any emotional connection with Montreal. The team also sucks. I don't see him going from one floundering franchise to another.

03 Mar 2018 16:52:47
Maybe he will sign in Vancouver. That is such a wonderful place to play and the fans are terrific. They really know there hockey there lol.

03 Mar 2018 17:00:50
Taveres would look good in a blues uniform, if the blues could rid themselves of Steen or bowmeester they could/ should make a serious push for him, they’re still a contender even without a top tier center and if signed there they’d be that much better. I’m sure lots of players like the excitement of playing in a city like Montreal, Chicago or Toronto that have the big market atmosphere but st the end of the day taveres if he doesn’t resign is going to go to a team that can compete and Montreal won’t be relivent for the foreseeable future, not unless they manage to get 2 or 3 diamonds in the next couple drafts.

03 Mar 2018 17:12:43
Drouin, Glachneyuk, Mete, Julsen, Lindgreen, Lekonen, and Gallagher is only 25 so can still build around him

All good players hnder.

03 Mar 2018 17:20:15
Apparently sharks ownership has given Doug Wilson permission and resources to do anything possible to land Tavares. Obviously he has to want to go there, but with Vlasic, burns, couture, pavalski, Meier, hertl among others, there’s a good core there in his age group, nice place to live and they have Thornton on a 1 year 8 mill contract. So if he leaves, it’s a small jump from paying a 39 year old 8 mill to paying a 28 year old his 11 mill or whatever it takes. A 3rd liner (3mill) could be he difference. Makes sense to me. Obviously Montreal makes sense to a point with Weber, price and patches they have 3 big pieces in the same age group aswell, but I think it could be a harder sell. I’d love to see him or Karlsson locked up in Vegas and be there franchise player.

03 Mar 2018 02:39:02
Mike reily 21.30 in ice time 2 assists and a plus 4 if habs wanted to tank they should have left this guy in minny

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