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10 Sep 2018 12:23:56
Canucks line 2019 2020

Petterson hughes virtanen
Dahlen horvat boeser
gadjovich gaudette lind
Russel schaller palmu

Hughes tanev
Joulevi guddy
Tymkin stecher

This team going to rock

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10 Sep 2018 13:16:57
Where's Seguin, Karlsson and Panarin?

10 Sep 2018 15:40:03
Why don't we get focus on the 18 19 team before ya put Jack Hughes as your number on center.
Also I know your excited about the other Hughes, the d man. but, when It comes to playing in the NHL, I don't see him being slotted as your number 1 Dman in his first year.

Be optimistic forsure, your Canucks have some really good young players as well as prospects. however, be realistic.

10 Sep 2018 16:39:40
Realistically, Where's Seguin, Karlsson and Panarin?!

10 Sep 2018 20:09:19
Realistically speaking, why Is Boeser and Horvat on the second line? lol.

11 Sep 2018 05:39:05
Cause i bet petterson going to lead the team in points this year if he stay healthy and hughes suppost to me as good as mcdavid.

10 Sep 2018 12:26:08
Mtl: Butcher, Zacha

Devils: Petry,Gallagher

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10 Sep 2018 09:56:33
Guess the Pacioretty trade and the inclusion of Suzuki takes Vegas out of the Karlsson talks. Can't see them giving two of three of their first rounders last year away in trade. Not sure about cap space now as well, but they had a ton of space.

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09 Sep 2018 22:12:34
I'm willing to bet no team in the last 25 years have had anywhere near the amount of players stretchered off the ice as the montreal canadiens. Like wtf!!

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10 Sep 2018 02:20:14
Ya, another prospect . I don't know much about this one Habby. any insight. also. do u see any players that will shock us this season and make the roster?

10 Sep 2018 04:55:30
Jake evans had a chance at cracking the line up this year but he was injured in the game before so probably ruins any chance he had. Josh brook and cake fleury look like they will become future nhlers just not this season maybe in the next couple years though. Will bitten looks like he coming along nicely. Don't know if anyone who played in the rookie tournament will make the big club this year though unless kotkaniemi gets a 9 game tryout to start the season. A lot of the habs better prospects didn't play.

10 Sep 2018 05:00:33
I think lukas vejdemo could be one of the 1st call ups if need be. Along with one of the Czech dmen they signed in the off season. How they play in laval will decide which one.

08 Sep 2018 23:07:41
Just to make VBBs head explode with excitement.

At NHL media day, players were asked a series of questions, including “which team, other than your own, do you think is the Stanley Cup favourite? ”

Patty Kane, Crosby, Malkin and Seguin all said Leafs. With 10 cups between them, do you think they know what they’re talking about? Lol

VBB, DM me if you want to help plan the parade route. Leafs17, you’re welcome too, bring snacks.

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09 Sep 2018 01:41:12
Who did they all predict would win last year I wonder.

09 Sep 2018 06:51:14
I’m good for now but I’ll bring snacks if need be. I just want to see them win a round or two. I forget what that feels like.

09 Sep 2018 14:10:44
I feel like winning the cup next season may be a reach but you never know.

09 Sep 2018 15:45:08
They have a solid chance I would think.

09 Sep 2018 17:41:42
I put them in a small group of 4-5 teams that I wouldn’t be shocked to see in the finals. WPG, NASH in the west. Tampa, Tor in the east. Can never rule out Sid and the Pens but I feel like their regression is starting (could be proved very wrong) . And have to include the champs, but the way Ovie has been celebrating, he might give ‘stanley cup hangover’ a whole be meaning lol.

09 Sep 2018 18:53:27
The NHL has actually put in some new rules for cup celebrations in the off season because of how much partying Ovie and the caps have done.
I think one is no more keg stands out of it. Lol.

Tor is just outside of Winnipeg, Nashville, Tampa, Wasnington in my opinions. Can mayyybe bunch them in wth Pittsburgh, Boston, even STL maybe this season.

09 Sep 2018 19:57:22
You have to include the f’n Bruins on that list Jim. Even with Tavares, the Bruins will be a problem. I’ve said it before and I still think the Leafs would match up better against Tampa than Boston. Chara, Miller and McQuaid are big and nasty come playoff time. Then there’s Backes and the rat on forward. If the leafs don’t add some grit somewhere in the line up, I’m afraid the results are going to be the same.

10 Sep 2018 12:26:08
They probably rarely get it right lol just thought it was nice to hear about a 30th place team a cpl years ago and a team that’s been the butt of a lot of jokes in the league (rightfully so) for years.

Matthews responded to the quotes just saying he’s heard the hype in the media and it means nothing, and as much as this still proves nothing, it’s a huge compliment coming from peers rather than writers.

10 Sep 2018 15:51:52
It is. I hope the media there stay somewhat grounded and allow the team to play and not expect them to win every game.

10 Sep 2018 20:14:12
Leafs17, you’re right on Boston. They’re a tough matchup. And they have kinda caught this second wind in their contender window, but I just think injuries and age will catch up to them very soon. Maybe not this year. But Chara is going to begin an even bigger decline than he already has. Bergeron is 33 or so and had some serious injuries, could start to slow down. Backes never seems to be 100%. Marchand and Pasta and Macavoy will have to have MVP years for the next cpl again I think.

08 Sep 2018 03:25:14
Erik Karlsson (No extension) + Bobby Ryan + Zack Smith to the Pittsburgh PENGUINS in exchange for Evgeni Malkin + Phil Kessel + KRIs Letang + Daniel Sprong + 1st.

Ottawa takes an insanetdowngrade on defence, barely upgrades on the wing, and slightly upgrades at centre, as Smith is easiky the best 3C in the league, while MAlkin is just a 2C. HOW insane can anyone be to think erik karlson gets less than this, erik karlsson is better than conor mcdavd and sidney crosby. MAlkin is nothing compared to him. See this is a real rumor!

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08 Sep 2018 16:31:18
Wow! This trade is very poor for the Pens. Malkin alone would be a fair trade for an unsigned Karlsson rental. Kessel, Letang, Sprong and a 1st is way over payment for Smith and a Ryan with his crazy contract. No upside or long term value for Pitt. The Sens would jump at this trade a possibly trade off some or all of these players at the trade deadline for future assets.

08 Sep 2018 16:33:45
Take out Sprong, Add Crosby at %50'retained.

08 Sep 2018 17:38:29
@Yupp

Maybe Crosby @50, and then add on Murray too. But then ottawa woukd have to trade back Anderson whos 10x the goalie Murray is and clearly retracted his trade request. Ottawa has all the time in the world with this Kaelsson situation, see EK, Duchene and Stone all WANT to resign with the Sens!

08 Sep 2018 20:58:33
Ottawa declines because their owner is to cheap.

08 Sep 2018 23:42:41
Vbb is absolutely correct. Their owner doesn't want those expensive players in return.
Dorion would hesitate anyways and then counters with that package for Hagelin, 2019 3rd, 2020 6th.

07 Sep 2018 13:30:25
Does anyone one think virtanen should try out the center with his speed and power if he had the puck more coming out his zone he would score a lot more goals

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07 Sep 2018 19:32:58
I think Virtanen should try out the elite Finland league to be honest.

08 Sep 2018 00:18:11
I think of any player had the puck more they should put up more points lol but the guy hasn’t been able to establish himself as an NhLer even on the wing yet, get him there first maybe.

08 Sep 2018 18:00:35
I still think he can be a at least an nhler because he still got 20 points in 70 games wich is atleast fourth line prosduction.

10 Sep 2018 20:54:39
So you think because he kinda put up 4th line production as a winger, he would be better at centre?

04 Sep 2018 15:16:42
Calgary invites lehtonen to camp to try and win the backup role. I think it's a great idea

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04 Sep 2018 16:48:48
Training camp invites are very rarely a bad idea. Zero risk medium reward in this situation.

05 Sep 2018 04:30:49
Didn't they invite jeff glass as we'll?

03 Sep 2018 09:50:42
What are your opinions on suspensions for drug use? Schmidt's seems very fair but to me the more pressing problem would be the cocaine abuse throughout the league. I have heard from a person in the NHL himself (played 3 games) and have read about it a lot. There is no current suspension for coke but should there be?

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03 Sep 2018 14:37:48
It's hard to know yet if the Schmidt suspension is fair or not. if there was as little they say in his system I'm not sure he should have been suspended at all. Unless they can verify he was using during last year and at some point there was a lot more in his system. if that's the case and they can prove without a doubt he was cheating he should be kicked out of the league as far as I'm concerned. the cocaine thing is tricky it only stays in your system for a couple days and players can plan around it for the most part. but it's not going to improve there game or give them an unfair advantage. but players do get caught sometimes and are forced to go through a counselling program.

03 Sep 2018 14:41:51
It's there own business and it isn't a performance enhancing drug.

03 Sep 2018 15:05:21
I say let them do what ever they want to do off the ice just as long as It doesn't hurt their game. .

03 Sep 2018 17:59:43
I know it isn’t a performance enhancing drug but it doesn’t set a great example. I do see where you guys are coming from though.

04 Sep 2018 15:49:45
The drugs that are banned are on a list that every player should be familiar with. This isn’t a hobby, it’s their livelihood. So they should take it very seriously and be extremely cautious. If it was such a small amount and he really honestly was unaware, I feel bad for him, but rules are rules. Rememebr Sweden losing Nik Backstrom for a semi final game for a similar infraction? Nik backstrom doesn’t seem like the guy who needs to cheat to be good either, and no drug is going to improve his game as its all smarts and Vision. But the rule is the rule.

Now, where I have a problem with the suspension is in contrast to other rules. As a first time offender and what could very possibly be a mistake, Schmidt gets 20 games. As where after 10 years and 20 attempts to decapitate players and end guys career, someone like raffi Torres finally worked his way up to a 20 or 25 game suspension. And guys like matt Cooke never saw more than a 5 or 6 gamer I believe.

If they want to be very hard on drugs and send strong messeges to maintain the integrity of the league and the sport in general, I’m fine with it. But then get a lot touger on these headhunting morons taking runs at stars. Because a lot more people pay to see star players skill than a plug taking runs at guys.

04 Sep 2018 23:39:44
That's true jim but overall I think there has been a moderate improvement in the last 2 years. With regards to cheap shots. Could have something to do with the dirty players who were causing them are not playing anymore lol like the guys you mentioned. My feelings on the steroid issue is I hate that even more. just think if it did come out that several Vegas players were taking peds last playoff. It could be argued they cheated 3 or more cities out of millions of dollars not to mention the players coaches management and owners of all those teams. i hate head shots and dirty play too. But if there is even a thought that peds are being used in this sport then every action should be taken to catch them and when they do they should receive a lifetime ban. nothing would hurt the integrity of the game more then a team cheating to win a stanley cup.

05 Sep 2018 03:35:09
That’s true. I never think of PEDs in hockey, just hasn't been that kind of issue before. But in baseball you could pick out guys hitting 40+ homeruns that hadn’t cracked 20 before and when they failed a test, it almost became expected. But now hearing this and thinking back, it’s funny that all through those playoffs the commentators were commenting on how Schmidt never gets tired and could play 2 minute shifts at full speed. That could be just his conditioning that he has truly worked hard at and if I never heard this news I would never assume he was cheating. But looking back I’m thinking to myself “maybe this guy isn’t a freak of nature” lol I don’t actually believe the minuscule amount in his system created his success, more a joke, but his conditioning was almost super human.

05 Sep 2018 04:32:48
What I keep thinking jim is maybe there was a lot more in his system during the playoffs I can't say that I believe it was but what if?

05 Sep 2018 04:57:09
I honestly say let them take steroids it’d improve the game, creating a quicker pace could be funner to watch.

05 Sep 2018 10:29:50
Yeah, it’s possible. I know guys a lot more into the scientific side of supplements and fitness than I am, and they all say that your typical PEDs aren’t really going to give a player the advantages in hockey that they do in other sports. It’s such a fast and reactionary sport rather than stoic and repetitive. For instance, in football, if a lineman takes steroids and packs on crazy amounts of muscle, he is face to face with another player from a stand still and he is supposed to block him out. That’s an immediate on field advantage.

Or like I used before, a batter facing a pitcher and the added muscle greatly increases the chance of the ball going further (swing mechanics obviously as important) . But in hockey, if you’re bigger and stronger but the slightest bit less mobile or agile because of it, in today’s game, it’s almost a disadvantage. Only Way that PEDs help hockey players really is allowing muscle to repair quicker for more frequent off ice training, which is still cheating but somehow Less egregiously. Again, I’m not a scientist or a doctor, but that’s my summary of what I’ve heard from people a lot more informed on it than me, an average fan. (Dumbing it down, they used a lot of big words lol)

05 Sep 2018 14:46:17
It creates a huge advantage in your off ice training. Like what you said earlier about Schmidt not getting tired. That's the advantage it can give the most. on top of that it can be huge to older players with more wear and tear on their bodies it can make it much easier to train quicker after injuries and get back to 100%. And eventually they would have to make bigger helmets for the increasing head sizes lol.

05 Sep 2018 20:44:37
But they would use the extra plast from decreasing jock cup sizes to expand the helmets. It’s actually a break even venture for Bauer and Easton.

05 Sep 2018 21:37:00
Steroids don’t actually shrink your genitalia they actually just lower you testosterone levels temporarily.

06 Sep 2018 00:44:36
You can’t make steroids legal because that a huge advantage to players willing to put them in their bodies. Some guys won’t want that stuff in their bodies and guys who are 4th line guys would possibly be out of jobs, forcing them to do potential harm to themselves to play in the league.

06 Sep 2018 04:16:54
Stop raising the bar on the level of stupidity vbb’s. Let players do whatever they want and encourage steroids because it would be “funner” to watch. These professionals are role models to young kids around the world. They are making millions playing a game they love. They should be held accountable for performance enhancing drugs. I’m not saying these kids can’t have fun but PED’s are and should be illegal. Like Nitehawk said, some guys don’t want to put stuff in their bodies and shouldn’t be expected to just to compete.

06 Sep 2018 04:51:09
We'll said boys. Not you vbb.

06 Sep 2018 17:48:33
Vbb, yes they do lol read a credible source, like a medical journal, not what some gym person claims on a Facebook page. Steroids don’t decrease testosterone as you say. They increase it. The body actually notices this and reacts by shutting down natural production of testosterone. This causes smaller and less potent testicles and can actually return them to an almost pre-pubescent state if you take them long enough.

06 Sep 2018 21:04:36
Vbb sounds like a guy who takes steroids I'm picturing him with a gigantic head and pre- pubescent sized testicles lol.

08 Sep 2018 00:19:58
Massive upper body, veiny neck and twig legs that can barely hold it up lol.

08 Sep 2018 04:49:22
Hahahaha!

02 Sep 2018 11:16:36
Mtl: Paciorettty (extended to a 5 year 6 million deal with 2 million bonus every year he hits 35 goals. Gets pacioretty motivated to get 35 goals per season and Rangers gets a guy that's still in prime that can out the puck in the net.), 2 rd 2019

Rangers: Chytil

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02 Sep 2018 16:18:04
Actually this might be Finests new account 🤔.

02 Sep 2018 18:58:00
Hahahaha. I bet he didn't even know who Chytil was until that Panarin thread then was like, oh this prospect is real good? Let's trade Pacioretty for him.

 


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