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14 Apr 2018 01:15:06
So I'm wondering how does Kadri get 3 games and Dustin Brown got a fine for pretty much the same hit. I'm starting to think Kings players are treated differently.

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14 Apr 2018 07:24:34
You say this two days after Doughty gets suspended for 1 game? 🤔🤔

As a Canuks fan you just really dislike the Kings. Inundertand that.
Kadri is a repeat offender and deserved his suspension. Can't believe people argue he's not a complete douchebag. I know people defended him a ton not too long ago.

14 Apr 2018 13:47:06
I think the hit was called for you can’t let players go after your star players but imo he deserved a 1 game suspension I think 3 is to much. Dirty his but not an intent to injure.

14 Apr 2018 13:51:41
Kadri deserved 2, which equates to around 5reg season. 3 is a bit much imo, cause that's like 7-8 reg season, but its a crackdown, so it makes sense.

However, if Marchand/ Backes pull out antics like this in the future of this series and don't get punishment, i'm going to be upset, cause this does set a standard.

14 Apr 2018 16:16:46
You say the hit was warranted then say there was no intent to injure? Lol “the good for him for sticking up for a teammate” argument is bad. Drop the gloves with him and sit out for 5 minutes not run him from behind and sit for 3 games. I also think the wingels hit should’ve been a penalty and the brown hit you refered to should’ve been a suspension.

14 Apr 2018 16:18:09
Also TopShelf isn’t it just double? 3 playoff games is equivalent to 6 regular season games I think.

14 Apr 2018 17:50:00
I don’t like that Kadri was suspended 3 playoff games but it’s was a deserved punishment. I’m a Kadri fan. He plays an important role and does it on the edge but keeps to the right side of the line most of the time. This was way over that line.
I get the frustration because he was called for boarding on wingels just before it for a perfectly clean hit from the side, then wingels fell awkward and I believe the ref let the crowds reaction influence his call. Then after getting that bad call, he sees the same guy throw a late elbow to marners head and he loses it. I get why he was pissed and went after him, but can’t drive a guy from behind when he’s alrwady on his knees. Stupid play.
Kadri fought joe Thornton (6’5 230) and Backes (6’3 225) 3 times while being like 6’0 180. So there’s no reason he couldn’t have just stood up for marner against wingels in a better way.

14 Apr 2018 18:01:09
And @ Yup there’s a lot worse players in the league than Kadri lol You know, like Milan Lucic who is twice the size and spends his whole game taking liberties on smaller guys and also made a travesty of a 90 year tradition of class and respect by threatening to murder a player in a handshake line. Let’s reign in the ‘complete douchebag’ comments in your glass house lol at least kadris, as bad as it was, was at full speed in the middle of a game. Not 5 min after a game.

14 Apr 2018 21:03:12
Almost every team has a douche bag. Kadri used to be a lot worse. He has played a little smarter since Babcock took over. I agree with Ebs that Kadri should’ve dropped the gloves instead. I also agree with Jim that Lucic is a douche bag as well and yup knows it. Kadri just happens to be a much better hockey player at a cap friendly price. I really think Martin should be in the line up when you play a beast of a team like the Bruins. I got to hand it to Komarov for not taking a penalty on the biggest douche bag in the league, Marchand. Unfortunately he’s the best player/ douche bag in the league. There needs to be a Marchand, “no kissing” rule made up. Was it Cooke that the league made a rule for waving his arms in front of Brodeur? That kind of crap should be an unsportsmanlike at least. Anyways, it could be a short series if the leafs don’t stay out of the box. They can’t match up physically but they have to try.

15 Apr 2018 04:46:03
That was avery @leafs17.

And yeah @ebs, it probably is just double. I kinda say its like 2-3 reg season to 1 playoff, so ab 2.5 reg season.

15 Apr 2018 16:52:49
Thanks topshelf. I forgot about that d bag.

17 Apr 2018 12:08:26
I still laugh that you said "I'm starting to think kings players are treated differently" the day after Doughty was goven a one game suspension. If they were treated any different he wouldn't have been suspended.

17 Apr 2018 18:51:21
Yeah, I don’t think the doughty one deserved a suspension to be honest, don’t think it was any worse than sergachevs last night. Doughty went for a clean hit and got his head by accident, sergachev got a guy without the puck, blindside, elbow to the face. I don’t think he went looking for it, but when he saw their paths were crossing and the guy was completely unaware, he definitely followed through and didn’t make any attempt to let up or minimize contact.

18 Apr 2018 05:49:23
The league suspended him. And a day after this guys complains and thinks the league is treating kings players favorably. 🤔.

10 Apr 2018 17:10:07
I would love to see the canucks pick up evander kane John Tavares and Jordan Nolan off of UFA

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10 Apr 2018 17:50:48
Canucks have 3 or 4 really good young pieces in boeser, horvat, Petterson and maybe Juolevi. Finally have the sedins moving on to pass the torch to the next core, stick to the plan and keep building it properly. As a fan of the leafs, I watched them try to short cut every time they thought they had a half decent foundation and it always resulted in mediocrity and change of philosophy yet again. For the first time in as long as I can remember it looks bright for a long time. And with those young guys, not a chance I’d sign Kane long term. A distraction that’s not needed, especially back home where he has all his friends he grew up with to distract him and party and find trouble.

10 Apr 2018 18:55:50
Lol i knew him all his friend are hood rats he would get into more partying.

11 Apr 2018 11:33:00
Two sought-after UFA’s and.

Jordan Nolan?

Really? Why?

12 Apr 2018 17:46:19
Nolan because dorsett isn't playing anymore. IMO he was canucks toughness...

13 Apr 2018 03:35:01
You could work out a deal with the leafs around Matt Martin and Brock Boeser if you need toughness over skill.

19 Apr 2018 23:15:17
Typical sarcastic leafs fan.

10 Apr 2018 01:21:15
Oilers russel jesse p.

Canucks tanev sven lind gunlund

Canucks trade russel to njd for 4 rd pick

Goldobin horvat jesse p
Petterson dahlen boeser
Leipsic gaudette virtanen
Erikson sutter gagner

Joulevi guddy
Edler stecher
Hutton polliout

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10 Apr 2018 05:58:15
Stop posting Canuks/ Oilers proposals.

12 Apr 2018 22:43:04
Oilers are lacking depth and speed and have too many left haned d. this fits both teams needs grunlund got near 20 goal before and has lost of speed and is a good aggressive pk
Sven is a 20 goal score tell me way this trade is bad then they add a top prospect this is a over payment for jesse . p what not meeting expection.

14 Apr 2018 00:22:47
Still can't tell be way this trade is bad loser no one likes you.

14 Apr 2018 05:25:53
Saying Puli isn’t meeting expectations doesn’t make your point any better. He is still not even 20 years old. I get that the oilers have other needs and he could be used and shouldn’t be untouchable, but you don’t trade a guy with that kinda size and skill because they’re not a star by 19 lol.

14 Apr 2018 05:34:31
What was Blake Wheeler at 19? He wasn’t in the nhl yet. Getzlaf and perry were not in the league till 20 and had 13 and 14 goals that season. They were all first round picks as big power forwards. Puli has 12g as a 19 year old. Sometimes these big power forwards take a bit of time to come into their own.

14 Apr 2018 08:52:53
No one thought wheeler would be as good as he is now same as perry and gets they where between 20 30 in the draft.

15 Apr 2018 13:13:05
You talk down Puljujavi after you make a trade for him. Wtf. You're messed in the head bro. Lol.

16 Apr 2018 12:19:52
If Edm gets offer all of that for Pul and Russel (cap dump) i'd say go for it. Tanev alone is worth Pul imo because of Puls dip in developement and Tanevs solid play and proven solid RHD. Then on top of that you add Baershit who would look good on third or second line in Edm and then Granlund who would become a good thurd line center for them. Then you add solid prospect Cole Lind and imo it makes it too much ror Vancouver. But if it was offered i would hope chiarelli takes all of that for Pul. Lind himself could become better then Pul.

09 Apr 2018 19:10:52
Dal trades: guryanov, 1st round pick, 4th round pick

Buf trades O'Reilly


Spezza, 2nd rounder,


6th rounder from Canucks

Sign Karlson

Benn seguin ritchie
Rousell O'Reilly radulov
Elie faksa janmark
Shore hanzal pitlick

Methot Karlson
Lindell klingberg
Hamhuis honka

Not too sure if the cap space would work but I think O'Reilly would be an awesome fit for dallas

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12 Apr 2018 14:36:56
Karlsson is UFA in 2019, not 2018 and I doubt the stars have the cap space to sign him if he goes to FA because they need to sign Seguin soon.

08 Apr 2018 09:45:27
We'll carey that's how you end a season. The same way you started.

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09 Apr 2018 00:07:29
Lol. Ya his last play of the year summed up his season totally.
I still have faith in the guy. , but. He will now be making a crap ton of money. Better earn it next season.

09 Apr 2018 10:15:34
Sosa I'm 100% confident he can get back to top form. I'm just not sure it can happen in montreal. i don't think he played a focused full game all year. I'm not sure what the problem is. Injuries, health, family reasons, or he just don't want to be here anymore. I think a move out west would be the best thing that could happen for him.

09 Apr 2018 13:25:10
I don't see him being moved. but, didn't think PK was going to be traded either. so ya never know.

09 Apr 2018 15:35:54
I don't think they want to trade him I'm just wondering if a situation will arise where both sides might decide it's the best thing to do. If he doesn't ask for a trade or at least hint at one. The habs will never move him. I just think he regrets signing long term there and not because they sucked this year and missed the playoffs cause his play was a huge factor in that happening. But he just seems distracted and I think because of personal reasons he would rather be closer to home. and maybe he will work things out over the summer and actually come to camp ready to play like he can again.

09 Apr 2018 17:19:50
I see what your saying Habby., however I'm trying (hoping) it's just a really bad season and that he will bounce back. but what you say about him being distracted, deffinetley hold some merit. he did not seem engaged in games like he usually is.
It was like watching a different goalie this season.
Hopefully Bergevin can also get him some help this next season, a healthy Weber would be nice as well.

10 Apr 2018 05:13:07
I always thought when Price was at his best, he still never looks overly engaged. He obviously is, but when he’s on, everything looks easy and effortless for him. So I think when he struggles, he still looks like he’s not trying his hardest and might seem distracted but I think it’s just his personality. Looks great and cool and calm when he’s playing well but can be a bad look if he’s not making the saves he needs to make.

10 Apr 2018 17:46:17
I agree Jim. I guess for me, I'm just used to him looking that way, and stopping every thing. now. it's a crap shoot . per say. .
But I have faith in him.

10 Apr 2018 17:58:17
That's true jim. But I noticed a difference in him this year. from 1 period to the next in a lot of games he looked like 2 completely different people. end off one period looking like his dominant self and start the next one looking like different man. Even on the times he wasn't playing bad he still looked out of it sometimes. he couldn't stay focused for a whole 20 min period IMO.

I was saying this right from the start of the season. when his nutrition came up I said yeah that could be doing it. But things really didn't improve afterward. when you have watched every nhl game he's ever played it easier to see things about him. Back in his 2nd year when he struggled he still looked engaged. this year he didn't.

10 Apr 2018 20:01:01
Yeah, I don’t watch him every game but probably one game a week or so I’ll watch plus whenever he plays the leafs obviously and he definitely looked average at best this year. No idea why, I’ve just heard people say it’s that he doesn’t care or try anymore and I don’t believe that at all, because that’s what he looked like when he was winning the Vezina and hart and Olympic gold too. He’s just so effortless as it is.

10 Apr 2018 21:39:50
My theory is he still cares he just has other things going on which is limiting his focus. what those other things are? I don't know. but it's something, I'd bet the farm on it. If I was to guess I'd say it's family distractions. So I guess it's possible to be resolved by next year. We will see.

07 Apr 2018 22:28:27
What do you guys think about how the SPHL do their playoffs? The nhl has been talking about it recently. Apparently this is also the league that the nhl took the 3 on 3 overtime from. Teams 1-4 choose who they play from 5-8. Team 1 obviously getting first choice of who they want to play from teams 5-8. I think it's a great idea. Either that or the nhl needs to go back to the standard 1 plays 8 and so on.

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08 Apr 2018 09:44:11
Yeah go back to the old 1 plays 8 th format.

08 Apr 2018 18:01:07
1 through 8. best way.

09 Apr 2018 03:05:48
I find it funny that a lot of leafs fans I've talked to are saying the format is unfair now because we are finishing with 105pts and have to play Tampa or Boston. Last year habs won the division and had to play the rangers who only had a point less than them and we didn’t care or feel sorry for them lol I agree there’s better formats, but fans hate rules when it directly affects their team rather than for the good of the league as a whole.

10 Apr 2018 05:05:32
I was just asking what you thought of that format Jim. The 1-8 format is also much easier to follow and they don’t need to focus so much on division rivalry. I really don’t care who Toronto plays.

10 Apr 2018 16:10:42
Leafs17. I wasn’t meaning it at you, I’m talking friends of mine I talk to. I agree it should go back to the 1 vs 8 like you said. I play hockey with a few habs fans and last year they were pissed with the format, and with good reason, and the leaf fans I know didn’t say a thing because we snuck in on the last day and had to play the presidents trophy winner, same way it would have been in 1 vs 8 format. Now this year we are more in the habs shoes last year and my leafs fan friends are upset by it.

10 Apr 2018 23:58:35
I do think the format where 1-4 choose their opponent is quite interesting though. You’re not always going to choose the lowest seed but what team you “think” is a better match up for your team. It could create new found rivalries.

11 Apr 2018 23:53:42
For sure. Some teams just have other teams number that they would wanna avoid. Like penguins being a low seed would still probably be avoided.

06 Apr 2018 00:22:46
I saw this trade on a different trading site. Equal disdain for the trade from both CHI and BUF fans. As a BUF fan I would make this deal. What do you all think? BTW please presume Buffalo can sign John Carlson for $9,000,000 over 7 years, trade for T. J. Brodie and win the lottery and draft Dahlin.

Detroit trades Cholowski, D, Jensen, N, rights to Anthony Mantha, rights to Andreas Athanasiou and 2018 1st round pick (DET) this becomes Evan Bouchard

BUF trade O'Reilly, R, and Ristolainen, R

This was posted by a DET fan. IMO Buffalo wins this trade easily. Mantha can score as well as O'Reilly. AA could easily be the 3rd line center, Evan Bouchard may make people in Buffalo completely forget about Ristolainen.

I want to hear constructive comments from other contributors. Who do you think wins and loses.

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06 Apr 2018 00:57:05
I don't know why Detriot would do this myself.
Mantha, AA, 2018 1st. Those should be pieces they keep building around. Getting rid of older players not bringing in ROR for all that young talent. Risto is a. I've piece of course. It that's a lot of good young pieces to be giving up.

06 Apr 2018 02:48:01
Thats a lot for Detroit to give up. Detroits going to be BAD for the next few years, I don't think they should mortgage almost all of their future, including a chance at Rasmus Dahlin for Risto and ROR. i just can't see detroit doing that.

06 Apr 2018 03:59:49
That’s a lot of ‘assume this happens’ for me. The biggest UFA Dman signing in buffalo is a long enough shot, but the rest is tougher to imagine.

07 Apr 2018 00:48:10
Maybe the value is there ( Risto is an absolute beast ) but that’s way to unrealistic due to how large of a scale of an trade that is. Buffalo isn’t trading O’Rielly and Risto. Detroit isn’t trading there whole collection of notable youthful assets besides Larkin and Svechnikov In a single trade.

06 Apr 2018 00:10:49
Buffalo trade Ryan O'Reilly to Carolina for Justin Faulk.

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06 Apr 2018 17:14:14
Ryan OReilly is a really good number two center and decent number one but with that contract and the fact that he's a 55-60 point center getting 7.5 million a year for another 6 year I believe is making me thjnk that Carolina wouldn't trade they're RHD that makes less then 5 million for 4 years I believe for ROR. Maybe its a good base just add a prospect from Buff to compensate a little. Or this is more realistic imo:

Car: Hanifin


I think they're value.

06 Apr 2018 20:48:47
I have told people on this site to relax on calling Reinhart a bust and he’s still so young and has potential, but he does not getbyou hanifin lol one is a 21 year old with a lot to prove and one is a 21 year old who has proven to be a huge part of one of the most stacked blue lines in the league.

07 Apr 2018 00:50:58
Hanfin>>>>>>Faulk. O’Rielly>>>>>>>Rienhart

The original deal proposed isn’t bad but Faulk is extremely overrated. He’s terrible defensively and his offensive preformance has been sub par at best.

08 Apr 2018 06:04:20
Hannifin has more value than Reinhart.

05 Apr 2018 01:43:43
Since the midway point of the season, I have been of the opinion that if Colorado’s made the playoffs, Mackinnon would be my choice for the Hart.
Lots of people have made good cases for about 5-7 players that are deserving. But last night I saw that Taylor Hall had 93 pts including 39 goals. He has 42 points more than next closest on his team (Hieschier 51pts) while playing 5 less games. If you took his 39 goals off his stat line, he would still lead his team in scoring with a 3 pt cushion lol if that's not “most valuable to his own team” as the Hart is defined, I’ve never seen it.

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05 Apr 2018 05:54:03
Really hope he wins it, he’s going to be top 3 for sure! Never thought I’d be rooting for New Jersey in the playoffs but thanks to Hall I am. Lol.

05 Apr 2018 13:05:07
I hate the a player is a Hart winner if he makes the playoffs by a point not considered if they miss by a point stuff. Playoffs or not MacKinnon Hall and McDavid are the top 3 choices. Your team doesn't have to make the playoffs for you to provide value and a 2 point in standings difference shouldn't hold that much weight in the voting.

05 Apr 2018 14:16:58
I agree there’s situations where it wouldn’t matter if a team didn’t make the playoffs, I’ve never seen a situation, maybe there has been, where a player has been so much better than every other player on his team.
With the mcdavid one, I have no problem with him being in the conversation, but when a team is going to miss the playoffs by 20+ pts, he can’t be the Hart trophy winner in my eyes. He could win the TedLindasay as most outstanding.
Also for a Hart argument, mcdavid is repeating (slightly better) than last season, Draisaitl is slightly behind pace of last season, Talbot is the massive variable. The difference in the oilers making the playoffs last year, and missing by 20 points this year is talbot, not mcdavid. If they got subpar goaltending all year and mcdavid blew his numbers from last year out of the water and dragged the team to within inches of playoffs, I’d give it to him.

06 Apr 2018 21:22:47
Honestly, as good as mcdavid is he shouldn’t even make too 5 for hart. The hart is “most valuable to his team” and take Mcdavid out of Edmonton and they would be still around the same position. I think the 3 finalist should be Hall, Mackinnon and Kopitar. All of them have dragged their team all year and are all going to the playoffs unless Colorado falls out.

07 Apr 2018 00:22:11
I know he has no chance at winning but staal for Minnesota has done the same! And no Mcdavid had a great year but should not be in the top 3 I personally think hall should win without question.

07 Apr 2018 08:32:17
Edmonton without McDavid is extremely worse off than Edmonton with McDavid. The fact that the rest of his team is awful shouldn't detract from what he's accomplished in spite of them. Why award mediocrity by just picking the best player on a team that squeaks into the playoffs because if they didn't make it they don't deserve it and if they did handily they have too much support? Also i saw some analysis in the past 50 years its been mainly to playoff teams but before that it was roughly 50/ 50 and the change happened had more to do with dominant players on dominant teams than it did that a player had to be on a winner until that became some kind of narrative. McDavid putting up the season he did despite the roster around him should really make him a slam dunk.

07 Apr 2018 18:34:02
@jbs 50 years ago there was 12 teams, 52 years ago there was 6 teams. Playoff teams vs non playoff teams was a little different than in a 31 team league lol

And no one is saying mcdavid isn’t important to the oilers, he clearly is. And I’m not saying it absolutely has to be a playoff team. If the devils didn’t make the playoffs, but they picked first last year, were projected a bottom 5 team again and Taylor hall almost doubled the next closest scorer on his team to drag them to this point in the season and they didn’t sneak in, I’d still say he was more valuable to his team than any other single player was to theirs.

But mcdavid didn’t go so far beyond what was expected of him this year, the bar is set so high for him as it is. But in my opinion, I don’t wanna see the mvp going to guys that miss the playoffs by 20 points. That’s just not in the spirit of things. Todd mcclellan saying “imagine where we would be without Connor? ”, well imagine where the sabres would be without Eichel? does that mean that a 31st place team can have the Hart trophy winner? I sure hope not.

08 Apr 2018 09:50:40
Mcdavid ppg is really not much different then a few other guys in the top 10 in scoring plus he plays about 2 mins more a game then most of them. i'd be interested to see how he compares in the points per 60 mins category. I'm guessing he probably isn't tops in the league. his team dídnt make the playoffs or even come close so for me to consider him a hart trophy nominee he would have to be so much more effective and dominant then the other guys like hall mackinnon or even malkin and he has not been. Maybe if he had 130 points then he might be in the conversation.

09 Apr 2018 03:10:46
Yeah, if you’re missing the playoffs by that much, you better be blowing away everyone in every individual category, and I just don’t see it either.

05 Apr 2018 01:09:56
Jim benning gets on his knees and smiles like a 🍩 to resign the sedin and trade them to dallas for 1 rd lol

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05 Apr 2018 11:39:45
Sedins are retired.

05 Apr 2018 14:20:00
. and if he begs them to sign, and for some reason it worked and they returned, it would have a no trade clause! Lol he couldn’t just trade them. This isn’t Xbox. They would have to agree to go to dallas and if they were willing to go to dallas, then jim Nill would just beg them himself to sign there and save the 1st rounder, zero thought.


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