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11 Apr 2019 05:47:05
Other than the Sharks looking like they will hold on to beat Vegas, that was kind of a weird 1st night of playoffs..

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11 Apr 2019 17:49:42
the blues and jets series has been pretty much portrayed by the sports media as WPG will beat the blues hands down. They based this on the 3-1 series during the regular season. The 3 wins for WPG happened when blues were last in the division. The 1 win the blues had was when they turned it around and Winnington took over. The blues had the best nhl record in the second half of the season and wpg was trending in the other direction. The blues match up very well against WPG and have scoring from all 4 lines. You add that with our top line our top defense and Winnington the blues def have the advantage.

Blues are a dangerous team.

11 Apr 2019 23:43:19
Blues are a dangerous team and were probably the best team in the league since Christmas so it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they won this series. That being said imo there is not a more complete roster in the league then Winnipeg. They haven't really showed it lately and may not get it together in time but if they do they should be as dangerous as anyone.

12 Apr 2019 00:47:15
I’d disagree, I think there really close but the Jets have the better team in every position IMO. Goal is up for debate because who knows what Binnington is. In saying that I took the Blues in 7 🤷🏻‍♀️.

12 Apr 2019 11:16:36
I’ve read an article suggesting Winnipeg was having some trouble in the dressing room down the stretch. Obviously no idea if it’s valid or not but maybe there’s some dissention within the team.

10 Apr 2019 16:52:55
Anyone have a good site ranking players for a playoff pool?

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11 Apr 2019 04:30:01
If you mean one that factors in the likelihood of a specific player’s team going far into the playoffs, no, I am not aware of one that does that. A “best guess” would be to take a players ppg over the season and multiply that by (1/ that player’s team’s stanley cup winning odds) but that would not be an exact science by any means (vegas odds move in order to balance their books/ limit their exposure to a particular outcome so it’s more a reflection of the consensus of the gambling community) .

11 Apr 2019 23:46:32
Dallas beating Nashville would be the biggest potential upset in the 1st round Imo even more so then clb beating Tampa. The 3 worst rosters depth and skill wise are Dallas Islanders and penguins.

12 Apr 2019 11:18:09
Agreed Habby. As 8th seeded teams go, columbus is pretty darn good. Tough to look at them as a “reward” matchup for Tampa after a historic season.

10 Apr 2019 05:46:09
Jack Hughes will be first number one... who really shouldn't be in NHL after draft.. he's not ready... to small.. if a man hits him, the boy is going to be hurt. Imagine , him and a Weber, or a 42 year old muscle man Chara in the corner with him.. or an open ice hit.. boy will done.. plus.. . He won't have Canadian Toughness.. jus ne another Yankee puss. Lol😉

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10 Apr 2019 07:13:38
Eh man americans ain't no slump, you really shouldn't speak considering your team is golfing as we speak

10 Apr 2019 10:45:29
Was a joke to fire up some of the old school boys on here Moneyhands. go make a Dman comparison. see if it's any better than your forwards. eh.

10 Apr 2019 12:03:23
Yeah I hear what you are saying Sosa but the game has changed a lot. Without the clutching/ grabbing smaller guys are able to thrive, and while Hughes getting caught with his head down against a big boy would be lights out, almost all of the smaller players are well aware of it and keep their heads up and on a swivel. The little guys are also very elusive — there’s a ton of undersized players in the NHL already and you don’t see them getting lined up much at all.

Also I’d be careful about how much shade you throw at the Americans. The sport is growing in popularity in the U. S. and with the bigger population they are starting to produce a LOT of players including high end talent. I’m worried it could start to threaten Canada’s stranglehold on the game.

10 Apr 2019 15:23:54
They are like locusts Unsportsmanlike . lol., they are everywhere lol ya, they are starting to close the gap between the 2 Nations. personally think Canada has to change the way they so some things at development level.

10 Apr 2019 17:45:47
Kakko will be picked first hughes second.

11 Apr 2019 00:03:42
I can't see Devils not taking Hughes. With him and Heischer, probably will be a decent 1 2 center punch for years to come. also, with Hall contract up, as much as I think Hughes is a bit small atm. he will be able to get Hall the puck. make it more attractive for him to want to stay.
I think Kakko very well may be the better player in the long run however.
The Rangers have a pretty easy choice this draft.

13 Apr 2019 01:38:48
Yeah I don't think he is going #1 kakko should.

10 Apr 2019 05:20:29
Maybe it wasnt an Oilers thing.... maybe it's a Taylor Hall thing.??

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10 Apr 2019 02:48:17
Wow the avs get shafted again

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11 Apr 2019 00:32:08
Ottawa must feel a little better?

11 Apr 2019 05:40:10
Yeah but I don't think they should be doing cartwheels or anything lol.

09 Apr 2019 07:04:50

• Johnny Gaudreau - Martin St Louis
• Auston Matthews - Claude Giroux
• Patrik Laine - Alex Ovechkin
• Aleksander Barkov - Patrice Bergeron
• Leon Draisaitl - Evgeni Malkin
• Connor McDavid - Sidney Crosby
• Matthew Barzal - John Tavares
• Sean Monahan - Steven Stamkos or Jonathan Toews
• Filip Forsberg - Patrick Kane

Disagree on any of them?

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09 Apr 2019 12:29:16
I think the Laine / Ovechkin one is pretty laughable. And until Matthews grabs a cop’s butt he can never fill Giroux’s shoes.

09 Apr 2019 16:35:37
Are the styles just completely based on value? Or on style of play? either way I can't see why forsberg is being compared to Kane. I would also think Matthews is more like someone like Tavares instead of giroux ( odd comparison) also I feel with barkov he'd be more like kopitar then Bergeron but probably more offensively gifted then both and Barzal in terms of playing style is more like kane then forsberg is.

09 Apr 2019 18:10:02
I mean styles. Ovechkin and Laine sit in the same spot a rifle it. They have insane shots.

09 Apr 2019 19:15:57
I don't see many styles similar in these comparisons. Laine and Ovechkin, have some, mainly the shot. I think Crosby, McDavid, only compatible is they are Megastars. best of there era. other than that, two completely different players. The Forsberg, Kane one is kinda confusing. I'd say Marner is more like Kane.
That's the great thing about the game today. many different styles. individuals.

09 Apr 2019 19:42:54
Ovechkin is also a ferocious forechecker and plays very heavy with the body; Laine floats around like a butterfly.

Fair point on the shots though.

10 Apr 2019 10:42:09
You even watch hockey MoneyHands?

10 Apr 2019 21:14:39
Did you ever watch hockey? This is a hockey site.

How can you compare one of the best goal scorers in the NHL to debatably the best play maker in the nhl. How can you even remotely compare Mathews And Giroux in litterly any aspect I’d go as far as saying they’re exact opposites play wise. Shoot 1st vs Pass 1st.

Crosby And McDavid are not even close play Crosby has unreal puck control and slows down the pace of the game to see the ice like the best of them ( Gretzky) . McDavid uses his speed and has a unique ability of making plays at his top speed.

Stamkos And Towes are exact opposites play wise

Monahan and Tavares lol where did you get that from? Let me guess they both played on the islanders so now they’re comparable.

11 Apr 2019 02:47:29
Barzel And Tavares I meant.

09 Apr 2019 01:10:56
I posted something similar like a week ago and thought I might change it up a bit.

Leafs: Auston Matthews, Andreas Johnsson (and/or) Kasperi Kapanen, 1st round pick some year?

Edmonton Oilers: Connor McDavid, Milan Lucic, Jesse Puljujarvi

I know this would never happen, but it's kind of (maybe?) realistic and entertaining. It would also be insane. Leafs may get to keep one of Johnsson or Kapanen. You could also argue throwing in Zaitsev or Brown on top of this.

What do you think?

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09 Apr 2019 02:03:26
I think the biggest challenge facing the Leafs (and Tampa, Winnipeg, etc. ) is the salary cap and trying to pay (keep) your stars but also surround them with a good enough supporting cast to be able to compete for a championship for as long as possible. To do so, every dollar of cap space needs to be used efficiently. As good as McDavid is, Lucic is pure dead weight at this point (and frankly, one of the reasons Edmonton missed the playoffs again despite having the best player in the world and a 50 goal scorer in Draisaitl) . Unless there was a guaranteed way to bury/ rid yourself of that contract, it’s almost like what’s the point.

09 Apr 2019 05:31:12
Leafs would have to add Sandin, or Lillegren. and maybe more. I've watched quite a few Oilers and Leafs games. there is a larger gap between McDavid and Mathews than I originally thought.
As much as it would be great to add a player like McDavid, best for Leafs to stay the course, they are miles ahead of Edmonton with what they have, Tavares as number one Center, Mathews as 2nd line Ctr. pretty damn good. would have to alter the team to much to get McDavid.

07 Apr 2019 16:29:47
Well Habs fans.,, overall it was a good year. Unfortunately no playoffs, but it was nice to see some progression in the team this year.
What changes would you guys like to see. Who should go..?? Who should Bergevin try to bring in?
What UFAs if any should he try and keep?
For me, if someone came asking about Droiun, I'd listen, if the offer was right , I'd move on from him. He is about the only player I was disappointed in this year.

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07 Apr 2019 17:07:00
Drouin was actually pretty good for the 1st 60 games so I'm actually giving him the benefit of the doubt that he may have had some minor injury that might have been bothering him. but like everyone on the team if the right deal came along then yes I would trade him Too. I can't see Hudon being offered a new deal or to a lesser extent Reilly. Lehkonen armia kulak will get new deals Imo. The ufas are another story I think Jordan weal earned himself a new deal and will be offered one. Jordie Benn on the other hand might want more then the habs are willing to pay for a 3rd pair dman. and Nate Thompson who played well for them too might not even receive an offer due to the depth we have a centre now. Other then that I also wouldn't be surprised if a buyout to dale Weise or Karl Alzner happens too.

07 Apr 2019 17:09:23
I don't think there is really a left handed dman on the ufa market that would be close to being worth the money you will have to pay to get them. But I wouldn't be against adding a ferland/ Simmonds up front if the price was right.

07 Apr 2019 17:21:42
Ya. Ferland or Simmonds would be a decent addition., We would have to subtract someone up front I think for one of them guys. Seems like Habs have a lot of good forwards, jus no star forwards. Although, Domi is making a case to become one, and in time Kotkaniemi.
I hope the focus on the off season is some D, where do you stand on Folin? From what I seen, he's a decent bottom pairing guy.

07 Apr 2019 20:39:20
I honestly think Gardiner fits the bill to be Weber’s partner. We can afford him so might as well take a run.

07 Apr 2019 20:49:40
Folin was a decent pick up played a solid and somewhat physical game down the stretch. Just not sure with him being a ufa that they just won't replace him internally.

07 Apr 2019 22:01:17
Yeah gardiner would be ok too I guess for the right price. I wouldn't pay him more then petry though as I feel petry is better.

07 Apr 2019 22:37:52
Petry is better, but Gardiner is going to get more than $5.5 mln in the free agency madness I would think.

07 Apr 2019 23:07:03
Gardiner will be able to command more than Petry however. I agree he would be a good fit, but at the right price. I can't see Habs being able to get him less than what they pay Petry. Someone will offer him 2 million plus over what he is worth. jus the way it seems to go in UFA.

07 Apr 2019 02:53:31
That f'n American with a hat trick in his first game, good for him. Just wondering Sosa, are you going to hate this kid too or is he ok?

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07 Apr 2019 05:47:36
Lol. one game doesn't make a career. but it was impressive. If, he stays a humble good kid. like Brock Boeser, then I'll like him.

07 Apr 2019 06:32:31
I’m sure you will like him. You didn’t like Matthews before the ear to the crowd so I’m guessing it has something to do with the team they play for. The habs have a good future.

07 Apr 2019 07:16:17
Actually, I didn't mind Mathews until this season. I always thought he was overhyped. I just seen a cockiness in his game this year. well when he was on fire.
I'm interested to know what ya think Marner should get on his contract.? I think he is the better player. Do you think Dubas overpayed Mathews. don't get me wrong. he's a good player., but I think he is the 4th best player on Leafs. I'd take Marner, Tavares, Reilly over him.

07 Apr 2019 13:29:20
We have already gone over this. The fact poehling is from Minnesota which essentially a part of Canada makes him ok lol. No but seriously if conservative Claude had played him more the 10 mins tonight like the 17 plus minutes Matthews played in his debut we might have saw a new record holder.

07 Apr 2019 14:29:52
Marner will get something like Eichel IMO but I’d take Eichel over Marner anyday and I love Marner.

07 Apr 2019 15:55:23
I don’t know Sosa. Marner brings it every shift where as Matthews seems to be less engaged sometimes.

07 Apr 2019 16:23:15
That's what I mean Leafs17. seems like Mathews has 2 to 3 games in a row games where he looks like one of best 3 or 4 players in the league, then takes 5 or 6 off.
I just feel Dubas made a mistake paying him what he did. Marner has a strong case to get just as much if not more.

07 Apr 2019 19:44:33
I guess we’ll see. Considering what it cost to get Tavares in which other teams were willing to pay, I don’t think Matthews was going to take less. If they win a cup with this core, I don’t care if they don’t for another 50 years, lol.

07 Apr 2019 23:10:26
Ya. winning a cup nowadays is so hard. I feel the same with Habs. jus want one for Price!? But, I think that is a far off dream with current roster., there is some good young talent on the way, however, by time they are all in prime, Price will be on downswing I beleive.

04 Apr 2019 19:58:25
Toronto media is pathetic. Leafs didn't win the Mcdavid lottery! Deal with it and move on! Justin Bourne is a moron. Who does he think he is? Steve Simmons? Media there has been crying about not getting Mcdavid since day one. Drop it already!!

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04 Apr 2019 20:57:33
lol wat.

05 Apr 2019 00:28:33
Justin Bourne saying that mcdavid might ask to be traded.

05 Apr 2019 01:22:30
Bourne was on the radio saying McDavid wants out of Edmonton. Doesn’t know McDavid personally, doesn’t have any facts to support that claim, just more BS from bitter Toronto media wah wah wahing that McDavid isn’t a leaf. He voices frustration once and they start putting words in his mouth. That’s shoddy journalism to put it kindly, Bourne lost any credibility he had.

05 Apr 2019 03:09:16
Bahaha! You still have the Bruins to cheer for chirpy. Thanks for the monthly update on Toronto media though. Even Leaf fans know the media is ridiculous. Maybe you should stop crying and just enjoy watching the game.

05 Apr 2019 07:13:42
Says the leafs fan with the most worn knee pads on here.

05 Apr 2019 14:58:50
Sounds like some nobody trying to make a name for himself by spewing some inflammatory, sensationalist BS (maybe I’m in the minority here but I’ve never heard of this guy before) .

And guess what chirp — you fell for his ploy hook, line and sinker because here we are talking about him!

That said — Edmonton does need to right the ship in a hurry because sooner or later McDavid’s frustratration will otherwise boil over and he will want out (to be clear — I’m not saying to Toronto — just an organization that is not a complete dog and pony show and has a chance of making the playoffs consistently) . Edmonton is wasting years of the career of the best player in the world and a truly generational talent, and frankly, I don’t see a solution coming in the near term. The Oilers are the real joke here — not some idiot in Toronto.

05 Apr 2019 15:36:12
It’s the same thing over and over chirp. Nobody cares about the media other than yourself. I rarely post and when I do it’s usually to defend something I think is absurd. I also bash my own team quite often, something I’ve never heard from you regarding the mighty oilers. I commented on how Nylander turns the puck over every time he touches the puck. I was also was the first to say that getting Tavares would not put them over the edge because they didn’t address the defense or physical play. Sadly, I think the Bruins will man handle them once again. I hope I’m wrong but at least they’re in the playoffs so I guess anything can happen. No need to be so angry all the time big guy. It’s a fun game to watch, tune out the media.

07 Apr 2019 13:21:08
No the Toronto media has some serious issues same as Montreal. Just to use blues as a point of reference.

The toronto media created so many BS trade rumors about petro and parayko going to leafs that it got annoying. It was awefu l
Montrea l isn't much worse the whole we are trading patches to blues for Thomas kyrou +++ crap was awefu l as well. Never ending pre Madonna sheet.

07 Apr 2019 14:31:23
Not rumours it was speculation there’s a huge difference @Redwing.

07 Apr 2019 17:11:44
And the Toronto media ie dreger o Neil kypreos etc is what that starts most of these rumours.


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