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16 Feb 2019 23:35:55
Sam Gagner back to Edmonton. What do you Oilers fan think about this?

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17 Feb 2019 19:28:22
Bad contract for bad contract but I love it. Fan favourite and he won’t be worse than Spooner. Looks like he can work a PP too.

17 Feb 2019 22:11:26
It's a no less situation for edm really I think gagner is actually a much better player.

18 Feb 2019 04:57:08
I personally like bringing back a familiar face that had some pretty good years in Edmonton. Spooner might still be a good player too. He looked good in Boston, I was surprised when he left.

15 Feb 2019 17:04:51
Montreal canadiens top 15 prospects
1 alexander romanov LD
2 josh brook RD
3 ryan poehling. C
4 nick suzuki. C/RW
5 cayden primeau G
6 jesse ylonen RW
7 cale fleury. RD
8 joni ikonen. C/RW
9 jacob ollofson. C
10 cole fonstad. C
11 Allan mcshane. C
12 scott walford. D
13 joel Teasdale. LW
14 michael mcniven. G
15 jake evans. C/RW

Honourable mention jordan Harris LD, cam hillis C, a Lukas vejdemo C/LW

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15 Feb 2019 21:44:21
Ylonen should be before Primeau.

15 Feb 2019 21:45:38
No way Alexander Romanov is ahead of Suzuki, Brook, Phoeling. he's in the top 5 for sure tho.

15 Feb 2019 23:10:33
He's playing in a more competitive league and in the last 10 games or so has been the top dman on his team he also won top dman of the world junior tourney so I would say yes there is a way boom boom. that being said all four could lay claim to the top spot before the season is over. ylonen is starting to play better as of late and could pass primeau before the season ends but right now I don't feel he's ahead of primeau. Also joni ikonen could possibly pass both the only reason he's not higher is the fact he's missed most of the year with injury.

16 Feb 2019 13:47:05
Ok Habby I don't know how you measure mtl's top prospect but to me its who is closest to be nhl ready. And Romanov is not in front of Suzuki and Brook or Phoeling. Give Romanov a good 2 year of developement. he's in the top 5 but no he's not the closest player mtl has to be nhl ready.

16 Feb 2019 16:00:17
We'll. boom boom if that's the way you look at it I guess jake evans could arguably be number 1 and someone like brett lernout should be in the top 5.but scouts will actually use things like a players skill set, age and the competition they have faced to determine a how good a prospect is. Like I said before any of the 4 could be number one before the season is over but in the last couple months romanov has been the most impressive and he's the youngest and seems to be getting better every game. brook has been pretty good too but he's a year older and he was expected to have a big year. Poehling has been hot and cold since the world juniors and suzuki is below last years pace for points and has been inconsistent since his trade. i bet you if you asked 10 scouts right now at least 9 of them would have romanov at 1 or 2.

16 Feb 2019 17:43:14
Also what makes you think at this point he isn't just as nhl ready as the other 3?

16 Feb 2019 21:57:28
Good list . I like Romanov as well, and the number one atm.
He does play in a mens league Boom. where as Suzuki, Brook go against some 140 lbs 16 year olds.
Regardless of who is top Habs prospect, ya throw Kotkaniemi in the mix of youngsters, and it's a pretty decent list, and the future doesn't look so bad.

17 Feb 2019 00:42:18
Yeah it's looking up for sure Sosa. You could have also added guys like juulsen and lindgren etc to the list as we'll but I tried to stick with guys who haven't played a nhl game yet.

17 Feb 2019 15:12:03
I say we trade Lindgren.?

17 Feb 2019 16:01:38
If we could get something in return sure.

15 Feb 2019 05:29:24
In the leafs Vegas game tonight the penalties at one point were 6 to 1 . I was starting to think this was impossible in today's nhl. Its usually if one team gets 2 powerplays in a row the other team gets the next one no matter what happens.

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15 Feb 2019 06:45:57
It’s a conspiracy for sure.

15 Feb 2019 15:10:50
No it's not a conspiracy it's a joke. And I'm sure the league has sent the memo to the refs to try and call the games even and not necessarily fair. If Vegas deserved 6 penalties to torontos 1 then that's the way it should have been called. I didn't watch the game so I don't know. But I've watched a lot of other games this year and for the most part after a team has taken a couple penalties in a row they can pretty much do what they want and get away with it until the other team takes at least one. it so obvious to see that it can't be considered a conspiracy.

15 Feb 2019 21:18:24
I think the game should be called fair, not even.

15 Feb 2019 23:12:33
Yes leafs 17 that's what I'm saying. If a team deserves a penalty call it. if the game count ends up being 10 to 1 so be it.

15 Feb 2019 02:07:43
Is it just me or is Darnell Nurse one of the most overrated defencemen on this site

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15 Feb 2019 03:50:10
I would say brett pesce is more overrated on this site.

15 Feb 2019 20:07:36
Justin Faulk is the most overrated I’d rather Alexander Semin on defense then him. He undeniable the worst deffensman ( defensively ) to ever play in the NHL. Sick on the PP and decent in the offensive zone 5 on 5 but other then that he’s absolutely trash it’s disgusting to watch he makes the game look bad.

15 Feb 2019 20:38:49
Justin Faulk, to vbbs joy, is overrated. he's a worse version of Gardiner with a longer contract imo.

16 Feb 2019 05:36:31
Darnel Nurse is a solid safe dman with a physical presence.

16 Feb 2019 13:48:59
I'd says Justin Faulk is underrated on this site. Morgan Rielly is the most overrated player on this site.

16 Feb 2019 14:48:50
Classic Canadians fan bashing leafs players. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone mention Morgan Rielly while referring to trade value in the past two years.

16 Feb 2019 15:12:26
Morgan Reilly is rarely ever talked about like vbb’s said. Over the last 2 years Reilly has improved drastically and has become a legitimate top pairing defenseman. No leaf fan has proposed trading him. Try again bam bam.

16 Feb 2019 16:01:49
Yes oddly enough reilly is not often mentioned at all on this site.

17 Feb 2019 16:12:42
Nothing else to say on this topic bam bam?

17 Feb 2019 17:04:05
Every time he is tho his value is compared to guys like Victor Hedman.

17 Feb 2019 19:22:34
You must be on different sites hearing that, or just making stuff up. Never has Reilly been compared to Hedman.

13 Feb 2019 20:23:19
If the Oilers are still in the playoff race come deadline time, should they be buyers, sellers or stand pat?
IMO I think they should be sellers to get some ammunition for the off season. They have a few UFA’s they should trade.

Chiasson - Big veteran winger. Could get a 3rd+ or a 2nd. 17G 10A 46GP

Rieder - Speedy winger. Could maybe get a 4th. 0G 9A 41GP

Petrovic - Big defensive D. Could maybe get a 3rd. 0G 2A 32GP.

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13 Feb 2019 20:40:22
I also think they need to lose some salary. Russell, Manning and Spooner are 3 contracts that I think they should trade. It would free up 9.35M. They may have to retain on these contracts though.

Russell has 2 years left after this one at 4M. I think he can get a 2nd+.

Manning has 1 year left after this one at 2.25M. I think he has negative value but could be salary going back in a trade.

Spooner has 1 year left after this one at 3.1M. I also think he has negative value but again could be salary going back in a trade.

13 Feb 2019 20:42:32
I think they should be sellers right now and get a head start on things. I also think there should be about 3 or 4 untouchables on the roster and maybe 1 or 2 prospects. The rest should be moved if possible and add whatever you have to other then these 5 or 6 players or their 1st this year to get rid of lucic and sekera. hope to finish last this year and draft hughes or kakko.

13 Feb 2019 21:18:12
Habby, I think they just need to cut dead weight then spend futures on some quality players. I believe a buyout for Sekera would cost 3M over 4 years so that would save the Oil 2.5M over the next 2 years.

If they were to trade the 6 players I named they’d save 13.95M. Talbot is another UFA contract I forgot to include. His 4.15M and Sekera’s 2.5M would bring the savings to 20.6M.

After these moves they’d need 2 top 6 wingers, 2 bottom 6 wingers, 1 top 4 D and a backup goalie. And there’s a few cheap options in the AHL.

13 Feb 2019 23:05:29
@ebs in theory yes that would work but spooner was put on waivers and nobody took him for free. You would have to retain on just about all those you mentioned so then what do you save 7mil? Plus you can only retain so much.

14 Feb 2019 00:31:18
He wouldn’t be picked up off waivers no but he can be traded. He was traded for a decent middle 6 winger this year. He only has a year left so I don’t think he holds that much negative value. For example Detroit moved back 4 spots in the 1st round plus traded a 2nd to dump Datsyuk’s contract and he was making 7.5M.

14 Feb 2019 04:04:55
Yeah your right maybe arizona would want him.

14 Feb 2019 06:47:04
I really don’t see the playoffs as a possibility right now. Everyone not named McDavid should be considered as trade bait. I don’t think they need a rebuild by any means but maybe some known character guys need to be brought in.

14 Feb 2019 18:15:25
I for one am sick of hearing about the team needing character. I think they need skill. The GM bled them of skill then blame it on character.

14 Feb 2019 19:29:48
This team has to trade 3 or 4 of their top 7 players in order to bring in players from winning organization and change the losing, me first attitude that the top Oilers players have. Until they do this they will continue to underachieve, lose and be selfishly content with their individual stats at the expense of the teams success. Don't sell now but wait until the draft in order to get players from winning organiztions that can turn this leaderless, soft, selfish and complacent team around.

15 Feb 2019 00:20:30
I didn’t mean to piss you off Ebs. I was thinking along the lines of what islandjet said, guys with a winning attitude. Obviously skill is what every team is looking for.

15 Feb 2019 01:30:49
I disagree Islandjet. This team only has 3 good players as far as forwards go. 2 of the 3 have only been on the team for 4 years and have made the playoffs once. The other, RNH, yes has been apart of a losing team for a long time but he does mostly everything right and is far from the problem. The team tried to bring in veteran “winners” Lucic, Brodziak and Chiasson and they haven’t done much to help.

Leafs17 you didn’t piss me off! Lol I like hearing other opinions. You guys definitely aren’t the only ones that think this team needs a knew core/ winners brought in. I just think they need a competent GM to bring in a few quality players to provide secondary scoring and strengthen the depth.

15 Feb 2019 02:35:42
The core is solid mcdavid draisitl nuge klefbom nurse Larrson but the rest is just over paid or useless or over paid and useless.

15 Feb 2019 12:45:12
I totally agree Habby. And Larsson is the only one of those guys to come from a different team. Chiarelli did nothing to help the team.
I really think if they can cut some dead weight cap and add a good winger and a solid D they could be a good team. 2 maybe 3 players could make the difference IMO.

15 Feb 2019 16:03:14
The right 2 or 3 players could make a huge difference. But the oilers need help in so many areas it's going to be difficult to get the guys to fill those holes. imo jones and bear McLeod bouchard all have to be ready soon. Also they need puljujarvi and Yamamoto to take things to the next level. And they might even need a wild card like maskimov or somebody else to show they can make the big club to turn this around quickly. That being said everyone healthy next year and they get on a run they could be a playoff team but to reach anything close to contender status they need to shed a lot of the crap that's taking up the cap and they will have to add some real good pieces to that just to rid themselves of it. its going to be a tough job for the new Gm but not an impossible one. And one thing the new guy will have going for him is he will be in a no lose situation cause their is no way he will be as bad as chirelli.

12 Feb 2019 23:06:06
Was just reading about Oilers GM .. didn't even realize Keith Gretzky was taking the duties for now..
So Oilers fans.. do you think Gretzky should be hired full time?? Or no chance.. or give him an audition kinda thing.?? Trade deadline.. draft.. ect..??

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13 Feb 2019 00:14:09
When your house rots you don't reuse lumber. Dump him and anyone in anything relating to player management or scouting.

13 Feb 2019 00:22:46
He might be the only guy they could get. Seriously though they should be looking to get a permanent GM ASAP whether that's keith gretzky or not.

13 Feb 2019 00:47:32
I'm not sure if he's right guy at all. but I agree Habby, they need the someone in charge . Is he president. Nicholson. can he do it.?
I think of Hextall. as well as Dudley in MTL. however, don't want to lose Dudley.

13 Feb 2019 02:41:34
It’s a little scary considering he was with Chiarelli for a while I’m pretty sure. But he’ll get the deadline to debut himself, I’m personally hoping he does good and gets a shot at the draft too. Also being a Gretzky doesn’t hurt his chance at keeping the job.
Why would he be the only one they can get Habby? Any assistant GM would love the job I’m assuming.

13 Feb 2019 04:58:35
No. Get rid of him with everyone else. Anyone that had a say in the hiring of peter and any of the moves he made has to go. Anyone that was an advisor or an assistant while peter destroyed a team that was one of the most promising squads in the league when he arrived should have gone with him the day he left. There’s a few options to look at. But not Keith. I can’t believe that we fired McClellan and then made it public that Chiarelli could keep his job if we made the playoffs. Who does that? That’s just asking for him to mortgage the future again and set us further back for short term gain to saves his own ass. Then it took 2 months to see that’s what would happen and had to fire him before the deadline to save us from ourselves. Need a new group right from the top.

13 Feb 2019 14:46:48
@Sosa Dudley is already gone trevor timmins is the new assistant GM now and we had our best off season in years after he left.
@ebs the only person they could get was a joke. there are lots of potential candidates IMO and keith gretzky might actually be fine as we'll. but whoever they decide to have as Gm should be given the control to do what they want. sooner the better too.

13 Feb 2019 15:53:14
Where did Dudley go?

13 Feb 2019 16:27:02
Carolina I think.

12 Feb 2019 19:19:09
What would it take for the Flames to pry Gibson out of Anaheim? Get a solid option in net for the playoffs and spell Rittich off a bit.

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12 Feb 2019 19:39:47
Alot. so much I may wreck the core and what th are doing.

12 Feb 2019 20:08:09
I also think Gibson may be the one Untouchable the team has. sure other guys like Rackell, Lindholm may be as well, but Gibson is young and has a lot of years ahead of him. IMO., a franchise Goalie is most important part of the team. ( Roy, Price, why I feel that way) . And he is a franchise goalie.
Also Rittich I think is real deal. I say give him the ball, and let him role with it.

12 Feb 2019 21:03:26
Gibson is the only reason Carlyle had a job till last week and the only reason they aren’t a lock for the best lottery odds. He has been simply amazing for 95% of the season on a largely underperforming team. He had a rough stretch after the ASG but they aren’t moving him.

12 Feb 2019 19:15:25
What would it take to pry John Gibson out of Anaheim?

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12 Feb 2019 17:54:35
Thompson and weise 104 playoff games
Agostino and chaput 0 playoff games. Do you think that might have influenced the change Sosa?

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12 Feb 2019 19:41:48
Well, sure it didn't hurt., however, main reason, Chaput and Agostino just aren't NHL calibre players.

I want a Dman fo Petry to play with. any ideas who would be a decent fit. not a fan of Reilly as a top 4 man. Bottom pair, sure. but Kulak is doing well there.

12 Feb 2019 20:15:51
You can have Gardiner Sosa.

12 Feb 2019 21:20:27
I can assure you bergevin is looking. But I think if they land a top 4 guy it will be a trade where we help a team get out of cap trouble. Something like taking on a bad contract to lower the price of the defenseman. The west is so tight still a lot of the teams don't know if they will be buyers or sellers yet. I bet you bergevin has spoke to a lot of them proposing this idea though.

12 Feb 2019 21:26:12
I'd want more rugged Leafs 17. I personally think Petry is a better all round Dman than Gardiner, however both are puck movers.
I like the balance of a puck mover, with a rugged D first attitude. when PK had Josh Gorges, kinda the combo I'm looking for.
Now Gardiner with Weber may work. meaning Mete moves to bottom pair. taking out Kulak. However I wouldn't trade much for him. as, Gardiner will command way more $ than he is worth. so . won't happen.

12 Feb 2019 22:18:17
No it probably wouldn’t happen Sosa. Gardiner needs a solid player like Weber beside him and I think he’d be ok.

14 Feb 2019 00:26:06
Calvin De Haan.

12 Feb 2019 11:36:55
Canucks erikson

Coytes grabner

Canucks sutter phi 3 rd pick

Canucks stecher

Flames bennet

Canucks horvat dipetro

Avs makar joist

Sign ferland duchenne

Ferland petterson boeser
Sven duchenne gaudette
Bennet joist virtanen
Roussel beagle grabner

Edler makar
Hughes tanev
Hutton guddy

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14 Feb 2019 00:26:51
Makar and Jost for Horvat and Dipetro? You must be kidding.


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