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19 Apr 2019 21:05:08
To Ottawa - j. t. miller, Cedric paquette, 3rd 2019

To Tampa Bay - chris Tierney, nick paul.




08 Jul 2018 06:23:10
Karlsson to dallas for spezza, methot, bishop? (Nevermind) i thought i would toss something alittle different for an idea, it goes like this
Ottawa trades: karlsson, ryan, 2019 2nd and future considerations
Dallas trades: heiskanen, honka and 1st

(The immediate future consideration)
Ottawa trades: smith, paul
Dallas trades: ryan (@ 50% retention)


1.) 08 Jul 2018 08:45:00
DAL apparently won't include Heiskanen, so there goes your trade.

2.) 09 Jul 2018 00:04:10
If Dallas will include Heiskanen i think its like Tampa. One of Heiskanen/ Honka just like one of Sergachev/ Foote, but not both.



25 Feb 2018 18:01:01
*confirmed 3-way trade

Edmonton gets aberg, columbus gets letestu, nashville gets a 4th round pick.


1.) 25 Feb 2018 18:03:41
PC has said he would like prospects, manly looking at speed, instead of draft picks. So this is good. Rather have a player closer to being ready to play now than a draft pick.



21 Feb 2018 18:55:57
Just a rumour

Ottawa trades karlsson to tampa bay in exchange for sergachev, point, 2018 1st, 2019 1st, 2020 1st.


1.) 21 Feb 2018 19:11:00
Yzerman is one of the best GMs inbthe game. not a chance he would do this.

2.) 21 Feb 2018 19:18:22
R u out of your mind if i was tampa i wouldn't trade sergachev, point for karlsson.

3.) 21 Feb 2018 19:23:57
Trade tweak,

Ottawa gets a 2nd rounder and Point for Karlsson.

If Karlsson extends his contract long term for a reasonable cap hit.

Sergachev, Point and ONE first rounder.

Karlson has next to no real value on the trade market with his contract expiring next year.

4.) 21 Feb 2018 19:24:05
Hard no from Tampa. No one is giving up that kind of return given the year he has had and the $ he is going to want.

5.) 21 Feb 2018 19:40:48
Let’s be real shut up already please, you the same little speel everytime a player is pending UFA. Karlsson is the best defenseman on the planet and as a rental he is still worth a ton. Doesn’t mean a team will give up the moon for a rental but he’s an exception and if you want to win the cup sometimes you got to make those moves, and besides he was obviously stay in Tampa to play with good buddy Hedman and be on most likely the best team for many years to come they way they are constructed. Next to no real value lol come on.

6.) 21 Feb 2018 19:40:48
You're an absolute idiot if you honestly btn f Karlsson has "next to no real value" because his contract is up next year.

Even at deadline next season he would get a 1st+ as a rental. Look at some of the pure rentals in years past getting a 1st+. Karlsson would be the best rental we may have ever seen. But if he's traded now the team gets this full playoff run plus a other full year of him. Ya that's def worth something. What a joke let's be real.

7.) 21 Feb 2018 20:24:48
Definitely wouldn't give up Sergachev Point and 3 firsts. Probably wouldn't give up Sergachev and Point especially without and extension in place. I think you might get Sergachev Johnson and some picks/ prospects. Like 1sts, 2nds, Raddysh/ Howden/ Foote/ Katchouk type pieces Tampa won't want to subract too much from their current team and losing a young cheap second pair d man and 2nd line center doesn't make a lot of sense in an attempt to win now or in the next few years.

8.) 21 Feb 2018 20:40:13
Karlsson isn't an ufa, he has one more year after this.

9.) 21 Feb 2018 20:51:23
Sorry to be so realistic and hurt all your feelings.

GM's are boring and stingy with their prospects. Makes a dull trade deadline that's for sure. ZZzzzzz

We will find out by Monday evening who's got a more realistic idea on his return now won't we? And I bet it's Max one high pick, one minor league prospect if it happens. maaaaybe another low round pick but that's it.

Yup and Jesus97.
I will be waiting for your official apologies next week if I'm right. lol.

10.) 21 Feb 2018 21:18:06
Hmmmm. if this let's be Real character is right about his evaluation of players. then . I wonder if Habs could get Tavares for Hudon and a 5th? He only has a few months left on his contract. actually let's be Reals way of thinking. Tavares is kinda negative value. Isles may have to add.
I mean . Karlsson has next to no value. he's got a whole year left. and Johnny T has only this year.
I think Habs are going to get him! . Whoooooheeeeeee. iz like Chrimass Time.
Anyone have Bergys number? I got to tell him this.

11.) 21 Feb 2018 23:04:06
Ok you just call up ol Bergie and propose that.

Maybe he will suggest that to Snow and Snow will laugh so hard that he gives you a 1st and 2nd for the Patches rental.

A playoff skirting team give up their star for that return. Hardly the same situation and hardly realistic.

12.) 21 Feb 2018 23:20:16
Ok let’s be real when you’ll be proved wrong you can no longer comment delusional stuff anymore (if that’s possible) and if you’re right I will say you were right bud deal.

13.) 22 Feb 2018 00:17:28
Oh come on buds. Must be a free trade for all to be had.

Anyway. saying that Karlsson has next to no value is pretty silly, don't ya think
. I jus wanted to get in on the shenanigans. I thought it was silly hour and the funny farm.

14.) 22 Feb 2018 13:42:57
I'm sorry, I don't get it. Tampa has Hedman and Sergachev, why would they give up first rounders plus Point AND Sergachev for a player that is a career minus. Not to mention, he will be a UFA next summer. The number one team in the NHL doesn't need to do this.



16 Feb 2018 03:43:09
Darren dreger reported at the intermission that patrick maroon could be on the move before the deadline, apparently chiarelli has been fielding calls from winnipeg and boston for the big winger.





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22 Feb 2018 07:08:13
*confirmed trade

Arizona trades tobias rieder and scott wedgewood to los angeles in exchange for darcy kuemper.




20 Feb 2018 13:53:34
*confirmed trades

Chicago sends kempny to washington for 2018 3rd round pick

Detroit sends mrazek to philadelphia for conditional 3rd in 2019 and conditional 4th in 2018
Im not too sure of the specifics.


1.) 20 Feb 2018 22:04:44
Holden to Boston for O'Gara and a 3rd, and Eric Fehr to San Jose for a 7th as well today. Nice to see though, 4 trades in 2 days. Hopefully even more happen.

2.) 20 Feb 2018 23:00:37
Conditions are playoff performance for the conditional 3rd and if he signs for the conditional 4th I believe.



14 Feb 2018 02:59:19
*confirmed trade

Ottawa trades dion phaneuf (25% retained) and nate thompson to los angeles in exchange for marian gaborik and nick shore

Phaneuf 32 years old 7million cap charge for 3 more years
Gaborik 35 years old 4.85million cap charge for 3 more years
Thompson UFA, shore RFA.


1.) 14 Feb 2018 04:51:29
*correction, thompson is 33 with 1 more year at 1.65.

2.) 14 Feb 2018 21:21:53
Win= Los Angel Loser= Shore reasoning: now plays for the sens poor guy.

3.) 15 Feb 2018 19:02:33
I don't mind it colt from a sens perspective. in the 3 seasons after this season ottawa saves 4.7 million while los angeles spends 4.7 for phaneuf and thompson (factored the 25% retainment in there)
If the sens could flip gaborik for some picks at the deadline this would be perfect for the sens.



06 Jan 2018 05:16:27
*confirmed trade

Montreal trades al montoya to edmonton in exchange for a conditional 4th.


1.) 06 Jan 2018 07:47:38
I think the condition is if he starts 7 or more games it's a 4th. 6 or less it's a 5th.
Looks like he's starting 6 games?
I hope LB clears waivers and he just gets some playing time down in the AHL. That's what he needs, to just go play some games. Would be good.
Unless he gets claimed on waivers.

2.) 06 Jan 2018 15:56:52
Another 1mil off the books for the habs next year.

3.) 06 Jan 2018 19:12:28
Fire Chiarelli if he gets claimed. I know it’s not a huge deal but still Montoya isn’t worth it. Pretty sure we could’ve gotten the way younger, possibly better, Pickard for nothing. I don’t know how Montoya got anything let alone a 4th.

4.) 06 Jan 2018 22:52:15
Fire Chiarelli because he didn't trade for a D at the beginning of the season when knew Sekera would be out for 35 games and Gryba and Auuvitu aren't full time guys. Good part time step in few games for injury but not full time guys.
Or, for him not making a deal for a winger in say early November when we knew we needed another top six and maroon wasn't having a year like last, Moto was sent down and Pul had a bad training camp and started in the A.

Or, not making a deal for a back up goalie when Talbot was injured and LB couldn't handle day in day or starter role (still very surprised they didn't give at least one look at Ellis).

Don't fire him for trying to send a young backup down to the AHL to hopefully play more. Which is what LB needs to do. He needs to just simply play more.
Hopefully no one claims him, but so be it if they do. As I still like Ellis in the goali prospect depth pool.

Also, I wouldn't fire Chiarelli right now, but those are more reasonable reasons over putting a young back up on waivers.

5.) 07 Jan 2018 00:48:29
I’m totally exaggerating when I say fire him for that, I just think it’s a dumb move. Considering your points above about Chiarelli not making any moves this season is probably done. So why lose Brossoit while also giving up a 4th, assuming he gets picked up? Do you think Pickard would’ve been the better option anyway?

6.) 07 Jan 2018 05:36:07
Should have fired him for the hall trade lol.

7.) 07 Jan 2018 06:28:13
Should have fired Bergavin for the Subban trade.
The Sergachev trade. The Radulov signing (non signing) .
The Alzner signing. Man his list can go on and on. We don't really need to go there tho hey Habby.
I feel like it's going to go in circles like similar convos in the past. Let's stop now before it begins. Both teams suck right now and hopefully things are better soon.

8.) 07 Jan 2018 14:57:31
Hey yup we can really go there if you like. no team has been as bad as the oilers for the last 12 years and it's looking like the legacy might just continue. having all those top picks for years and they are still in the basement? But you are right there is really no need to talk about it anymore.

9.) 07 Jan 2018 18:34:16
I thought you were talking about Chiarelli, the current GM. So I brought up Bervavin, the current GM.
Now you're talking 12 years? Stay on the topic you brought up bro.

I can't defend the oilers 12 years. They have been terrible. That's a fact. Lol. I absolutely hated MacT and Lowe. They are god awful. But Bergavin should have been run out of town long ago as well!
Do you like Bergavin? Are you at all Surprised he still has a job?

10.) 07 Jan 2018 23:15:54
Both GMs suck but Chiarelli is much worse. Traded Seguin and Hall for Basically nothing. Although Larsson is decent he’s not a top 5 player in the nhl for his position ( Hall and maybe Seguin ) . Not to mention Barzal for nothing. Subban got Weber and that was his worst move. Drouin for Sergechev isn’t bad.

11.) 08 Jan 2018 01:21:25
Sergachev for Drouin wasn't a bad trade?
That's by far the worst out of all the ones either GM has done. Seguin wasn't even an Oiler. THE OILERS NEVER TEADED BARZEL, lmao. They never had him. It was a pick. 15 other teams passed up on him. Oh my god can you believe Dallas took Gurianov instead of Barzal? Worst GM in history. See how stupid that sounds years later. Instead of saying the Barzal trade was bad, say a pick for Reinhart was bad. That it was. Bad gamble that was now looking back at it hey. Chiarelli has made some bad moves, I've never said he hasn't.
-Subban for Weber.
-Sergachev for Drouin.
-Screwing up with Radulov, few hrs later signing Hemsky thinking he could replace.
-Screwing up with Markov then signing Strait.
-Signing Alzner to a terrible deal.
-Two 2nds for shaw then sign for 6 years.
-Galchenyuk $4.9M?
-Extending Plekanec.
-Semin experiment.
-Signing a goalie $10.5M for 8 years.
-Trading Goerges.

12.) 08 Jan 2018 02:16:03
I'm actually not suprised at all I like the weber deal and the drouin deal. i also like that markov was not resigned I miss radulov a little but even his 5 year deal may not look so good when he decides to get lazy again. paid a bit much for alzner but every team does that in free agency from time to time. i would have rather kept gallant as coach but he's not French so that couldn't happen. i honestly can't think of a good deal chirelli has made in years even before he came to edmonton. Talbot I guess that don't even look so great now tbh.

13.) 08 Jan 2018 04:09:03
Trading Gorges lol really digging deep now yup. galchenyuk 4.9 yeah it looks a little pricey now but the guy did score 30 goals a few years back he was obviously going to get paid a little. semin streit and hemsky were all low risk signing I mean it's not like they are paying beniot pouliot 1.3 mil a year for the next 3 years after this one. And honestly shaw who battled concussions most of last year and is probably still not 100% has been decent and when healthy has given them exactly what they expected from him. but if you wanna talk about bad signings sekera lucic Russell and mark fayne come to mind pretty quickly. and please the hall for Larrson trade is by far the worst move either GM has made with there current clubs.

14.) 08 Jan 2018 04:59:50
Mark Fayne wasn't Chiarelli. He's one of the last MacT signings around and MacT was absolutely terrible. so was Lowe. And Eakins.

15.) 08 Jan 2018 05:10:03
You do know I've criticized my GM many many times. He's. It the best in the league, but I don't mind him. And I don't mind coach Todd, But I have a feeling he won't be the coach at the beginning of next season. I actually wouldn't fire him, I would fire all his assistants, Our special teams are trash this year.

Tell me honestly Habs fans, Are you surprised Bergevin still has a job? Or happy he still has a job?

16.) 08 Jan 2018 11:32:11
You know. The oilers adtually did trade Barzal. They traded the 15th pick at the time the pick was to be made. Why do I remember that? Idk, I just remember Sportsnet going crazy about it cause it was Chiarellis first trade as GM.

17.) 08 Jan 2018 12:22:05
And honestly @yup, if your criticizing the DROuin/ Serg deal that much, reexamine Eberle/ Strome and Hall/ Larsson. Also look at Russells latest contract. I'm not hating, but you went on quite a tangentm but failed to point out some of your gms mistakes. You've always been a believer in the Hall trade, but looking at it now, Jersey clearly robbed Edmonton, just like how Pittsburgh robbed Toronto with Kessel. Its simple. I think the rrason a lot of people aim at hating on you is cause youve defended a lot of PC's actions. I remember you saying that hall trade was good, the Eberle trade was okay, but the Maroon trade was 'AMAZING'. Cmon.




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24 Apr 2019 11:16:56
probably because they're too slow.




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24 Apr 2019 11:15:29
how is this fun for Calgary?




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24 Apr 2019 11:13:30
Zack smith to the oil for a 7th, keep russell.




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20 Apr 2019 22:37:47
or is the future considerations belesky.




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20 Apr 2019 22:36:04
if the Oilers asked for a 7th in return the deal would be off the table right? lol.





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