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22 Sep 2018 15:36:22
3 Way Trade Proposal.

Carolina Trades
Faulk (Minnesota)

Minnesota Trades
Spurgeon (Toronto)
Seeler (Carolina)

Toronto Trades
CBrown (Carolina)
Sparks (Minnesota)
4th Round Pick 2019 (Carolina)

Trade Breakdown.

Faulk-CBrown,Seeler,4th Rounder
Carolina gets a good 24yr old 2 Way Winger and solves sitting TVR as the 7th Daman,Seeler is better suited as a Depth DMan.

Spurgeon,Seeler-Faulk,Sparks
Faulk and Spurgeon are close so that's more a wash but the key is Sparks as the Wild don't have any Goaltending Prospects.

CBrown,Sparks,4th Rounder-Spurgeon
Spurgeon is exactly what the Leafs are looking for on Defense and it's time to give Leivo a full time spot on RWing playing with Kadri on the 3rd Line gives him that,the crowded Goaltending and Sparks having to go through Waivers makes sense as some Team will Claim him.


Thoughts ?

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22 Sep 2018 17:20:32
Stop posting the exact same thing over and over and over.

22 Sep 2018 18:16:14
Just posts trades and clicks believable and ends up 1-22.

22 Sep 2018 20:13:06
#BanPinball.

22 Sep 2018 23:13:30
TopShelfSlappers it isn't the same Trade Proposal, Connor Brown instead of Kapanen is in this Trade Proposal, better Winger in this Trade Proposal and say what you want it makes sense for all 3 Teams.

21 Sep 2018 17:17:38
Columbus Trades
Panarin
SJones

Toronto Trades
WNylander
CCarrick
1st Round Pick 2019

I really don't want to trade WNylander but at the same time getting SJones and at least one year of Panarin would be worth it with how close the Leafs are.

Thoughts ?

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21 Sep 2018 17:20:13
You won't get Jones. everything went downhill from there.

21 Sep 2018 17:28:26
Wow, massive no from Cbj. Panarin andNylander are pretty close in value sure, but then you want Jones for only Carrick and what will likely be a bottom 10 first? Your delusional.

21 Sep 2018 17:56:40
Nylander as a return for this package is fair but the Leafs would have to add someone much better than Carrick to even out the trade. I notice that there are a lot of trades proposed that involve the Leafs. Is Toronto just not that good that they need to try and steal other teams good players and trade them scrapes in return?

21 Sep 2018 18:34:23
Not a chance CLB does this. It would need to be Nylander, Reilly and the first or Liljegen. Something along those lines to get CLB to even start talking.

21 Sep 2018 19:52:58
Let me help you out here
To Columbus:
Nylander, 2020 2nd, Gardiner, Kapanen
To Leafs:
Panarin, Savard

That’s way more fair, and this is coming from a leafs fan.

21 Sep 2018 20:06:25
Lmao. You're not even getting Seth Jones for that. Let alone Panarin too. Wtf.

21 Sep 2018 20:14:54
Lol @ the mostleaf. As ridiculous as the original trade proposal was, yours is just as horrendous.

21 Sep 2018 20:25:16
Lol not close. Jones is one of the most valuable pieces in the league because of position, age and contract. Leafs would have to add a lot to Nylander to get him alone. Jackets laugh so very hard at this.

21 Sep 2018 20:25:58
Lol, that package probabky doesn't even get Jones.

21 Sep 2018 20:49:41
Mathews instead of Nylander might get Columbus’s attention.

21 Sep 2018 21:33:01
islandjet the Leafs have the largest fan base so logically they will also have the largest number of people who post ridiculous, one-sided trades. If you don't like it, convince more people to move to Winnipeg and cheer for the Jets (good luck with that) .

Also, I wouldn't be so quick to throw shade as you've made numerous outlandishly homerish statements on this site. Rambo might be driving the homer short bus but you're close to riding shotgun.

21 Sep 2018 21:52:59
#pinballisbackunfortunately.

21 Sep 2018 22:56:54
Everyone should know pinball’s trades are usually ridiculous. That’s funny you say that unsportsmanlike, I was starting to think islandjet and memarcusjoe were the same people. They always reply on the same thread and there can’t be 3 jets fans. I think the black alpaca is a jets fan also.

21 Sep 2018 23:42:00
Panarin is an UFA after this Season and Nylander is a RFA big difference, so don't compare those 2, Nylander, CCarrick, and a 1st Round Pick for one Season of Panarin and SJones isn't delusional for Columbus long term.

21 Sep 2018 23:55:54
themostleaf33 must be Brian Burke in disguise. So one year of Panarin and Savard is signed for one year of Gardiner, Nylander (RFA) Kapanen and a 2nd Round Pick too? If I am Columbus I am packing Panarin and Savards bags right away, that's a steal of a trade for the Jackets.
Anyone on here that thinks that's fair is a true Leaf hater, no worries Dubas isn't that dumb.

22 Sep 2018 02:10:46
Pinball buddy, Sometimes I think you're just a troll with how bad EVERY SINGLE one of your posts have ever been. But we all just know if you're not trolling you're delusional as all Flip.

22 Sep 2018 09:52:22
Won't get you Jones alone. Get real.

22 Sep 2018 14:27:27
Pinball you underate Seth Jones he has much more value then Nylander.

22 Sep 2018 17:20:30
Lets do it again
Marner + Rilly
Panrain + Jones.

22 Sep 2018 18:05:49
Keyhabs that’s still not even comparable lol not even close. Columbus putting out the two better players lol.

22 Sep 2018 19:54:25
Panarin better than Marner @MJC? Really?

22 Sep 2018 20:43:59
Absolutely Panarin is better than Marner? How can you not agree. I’m not going off age or contract I’m talking strictly skill and who i'd rather have.
Jones + Panarin are both better than Marner + Reilly.

23 Sep 2018 00:58:42
Oh. I’m going value. Yeah right now Panarins better, not going to lie.

Age, contract and value, takin Marner in a heartbeat tho, as should most.

23 Sep 2018 01:17:55
Do it again
Mathews Reilly
For
Jones Panarin.

23 Sep 2018 01:51:33
Oh ya age difference and contract would go Marner to for sure.

21 Sep 2018 17:10:59
With strong play from youth at camp, JVR and Patrick's ability to play net front on the power play, and for future cap concerns, Simmonds is a viable trade option. His injuries last year reduced his trade value a bit, but conditional picks should mitigate the risk for both teams.

Dallas isn't all in but they have talent on the roster and will try to progress this season, especially with Heiskanen emerging. Spezza's $7.5MM is coming off the books, although it's partially offset by Seguin's extension. Dallas does not have glaring cap issues and is in an income tax free state.

Dallas: Simmonds ($3.975MM UFA 2019)
Philadelphia: Conditional 2019 1st*, Conditional 2019 4th**, Conditional 2020 5th***

*Top 10 lottery protected. If pick is 1-10, Dallas has the option to defer to 2020 1st (unprotected) and a 2021 3rd
** If Simmonds re-signs, the pick becomes a 2019 2nd
*** If Simmonds scores 25+ goals in 2018-2019, the pick becomes a 2020 3rd

Worst case scenario for Dallas is that Simmonds flops (which he won't) and they're out a lottery protected 1st and two low picks. If Simmonds returns to form and re-signs, the Stars get a veteran 25-30 goal scorer that can play up and down the lineup at a cost of a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.

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21 Sep 2018 17:31:26
Too much for simmonds, sorry but he isn’t worth any potential lottery pic. The only trade I can see happening for him is a prospect and maybe a couple 2nd/ 3rds, the only way he’s getting a first is if it’s from a team that knows they are playoff bound.

21 Sep 2018 21:54:20
Is Dallas actually pretty bad now or am I missing something? I don’t think their 1st round will be in the top 10 of next years draft unless lottery odds work in their favor (If they do miss the playoffs)

21 Sep 2018 22:59:31
Simmonds will get a 1st at the deadline and possibly more if the flyers are out of contention.

22 Sep 2018 00:32:52
@MJ

They’re extremely topheavy. After their sick first line, your relying on a KHL Nichuskin, Faksa who is a better defensive forward, and a bunch of questions.

Defense is good, and is much better than before, but is not top ten in the league.

And Bishop has fallen out of league favour pretty fast, imo; is barely a top15 goalie in the league anymore.

Theyre good, i'd say they make the playoffs, but their depth has really been exposed. theyd have to rely on Minny and Chicago falling out which is likely, but i'd probably take COL over them tvh.

22 Sep 2018 14:56:01
"Too much for simmonds, sorry but he isn’t worth any potential lottery pic" I know he isn't, that's why it's Top 10 protected. The reason why 2020 would be unprotected is that teams can just roll the pick forward indefinitely if they suck for a while. Frankly, Simmonds return shouldn't be that far off from Pacioretty. Same contract situation, same age, Pacioretty has a better stat line (but not that much), Simmonds is way better in the locker room etc. Not the same, but similar.

22 Sep 2018 18:06:39
Ohhhh yeah don’t pay too much attention to Dallas.

20 Sep 2018 14:36:26
3-way Deal
To SJ:
Brown, leafs 2021 2nd, Durzi
To Anaheim:
Braun, Carrick, leafs 2019 1st, Leivo, Rosen
To Leafs;
Sharks 2021 3rd, Montour

Anaheim gets better defensive depth (which they need), leafs get their defenceman, and Sharks get a top 9 forward a pick and a good prospect to help replace the depth and prospects they traded to Ottawa

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20 Sep 2018 16:15:11
Anaheim gets worse defensively dude.

20 Sep 2018 17:04:18
I know Montour is supposed to be good, looks impressive, and if I were Ducks, I wouldn’t give him away without a big overpayment. But on the flip side, is he so proven and such a sure thing star that he’s worth leafs giving up Connor Brown, Connor Carrick, Sean Durzi, Josh Leivo, Calle Rosen a 1st and a 2nd? Lol I get he’s probably going to be far better than any of them. But leafs need to keep a stream of cheap youth coming up for cap reasons. That’s trading a lot of guys that could play a role for them for one guy. And before I hear how it’s biased and it’s quantity over quality, I agree, which is why I started by saying I doubt ducks do it either.

20 Sep 2018 17:17:47
The point of the ducks making this trade is to improve their depth at defence, I don’t think having Schene on your top 6 is the way to go, especially not when you could get a guy like Carrick with a low contract as well to play there
Also Braun isn’t bad, he can replace Montour on the top 4 and playing with Fowler or Lindholm, he should be very solid, so Anaheim definetly recieves quality there
Rosen can replace Peterson in a year or so
I think your overvaluing Montour here, he is a good defenceman but if you compare Gardiner to him, it’s very similar, just that one is a righty so it bumps him up a bit, as yourself, would you take that deal for Gardiner?

20 Sep 2018 20:00:04
Well there’s a maximum contract limit for each team also, so ducks losing one player and adding 4 also handcuffs them for future moves. All these things would have to be considered, it’s not just what the in and out is today but how it affects the team and the plan going forward. Durzi is a long shot player, undrafted last year then grabbed late 2nd round of this draft, so is he someone you would want to take if that roster spot being filled prevents you from adding someone of significance at the deadline this season?! That’s the problem with the quantity rather than quality proposals. got to think the ducks had at least 9 chances to draft him over 2 years. How much do they value that guy?!

20 Sep 2018 20:21:25
2 1sts, 2nd And Brown for Montour? That’s almost what Karlsson got.

20 Sep 2018 20:55:21
Problem is, this si super unrelaistic. Where have three team trades happened with this many moving parts, especially with the addition of two div rivals trading with each other.

For the Leafs, stick to one or the other, don't try this three team stuff because itll never happen unless its an extremely major deal.

Additionally, your logic is flawd for the Ducks. Montour > Braun, and Carrick and Rosen are just fillers. Theyd rather just keep Schenn and Pettersson and Sustr.

And should the Leads really trade all of those parts? Especially for another offensive dman?

20 Sep 2018 14:01:43
to Anaheim
Nylander
Zaitsev'

to Toronto
Manson
Silfverberg.

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20 Sep 2018 16:15:49
That’s interesting but can’t see Toronto pulling the trigger on it.

20 Sep 2018 20:21:58
Not a bad offer at all.

20 Sep 2018 23:22:47
As a Leaf fan, I like it. A dman core of

Reilly Manson
Gardiner Hainsey
Dermott Ozighanov/ Carrick

That impresses me even being a big Nylander fan. I would an add of a pick to the Leafs though.

21 Sep 2018 04:17:08
I like it as a leaf fan. Manson would be in my top 5 choices for the leafs to target. Silfverberg is a solid 2 way forward as well which Nylander is not.

21 Sep 2018 14:08:36
Leads need Zaisev more then Anahejm tho so maybe add Bracco and a third or second I don't know where he stand in his developement.

21 Sep 2018 17:04:46
Colt. The Leafs do not add. Nylander is by far the best player in the deal.

21 Sep 2018 23:54:21
I mean take off Zaitsev and add Bracco and the pick. Is it that hard to figure it out from my comment cheryl?

22 Sep 2018 23:39:24
I think I’d do that if I were the Leafs.

19 Sep 2018 23:23:32
Tor - C/ RW William Nylander, D Andrew Nielsen

VGK- D Colin Miller, D Nicolas Hague

If the leafs and Nylander can’t come to terms (I do believe they will fairly soon), then maybe they move on to address other areas

Leafs have plenty of capable wingers to play along side Matthews and Marleau, so kapanen, Leivo or Johnsson move up.

Leafs get a really good 2 way RHD, soon to be 26 years old, 4 years at $3.8 million, who already has connections to Kyle Dubas. They also get a real good LHD prospect.

Vegas has the cap space to pay Nylander and their RW depth is awful. afternoon reilly Smoth, it goes alex Tuch and Ryan Reeves. This pushes tuch to 3 and reeves to 4 where they should be. Nielsen is a giybthat could be a decent NHL Dman eventually but still a young project for sure. Just adds to their depth because they’re losing 2 D in the deal.

Leafs give up the best player but that salary of miller vs what Nylander wants is valuable on its own. Also a D core of

Rielly Miller
Gardiner Zaitsev
Dermott Ozhiganov
Hainsey

All of a sudden looks pretty solid while still maintaining one of the best toon 9 forward groups in the league of

Marleau Matthews Kapanen
Hyman Tavares Marner
Johnson Kadri Leivo.

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19 Sep 2018 23:48:34
top 6 doesn't look that great without nylander. until kapanen can finish he's a 3rd liner. i would love to see conner brown get a shot at the top line, guy is under rated. and there's a reason he is above leivo on the depth chart.

seeing some lines at the first pre season game means very little to me. things will shake out a lot differently.

as far as the trade goes i would take miller in a heartbeat.

20 Sep 2018 00:47:27
Very well thought out imo, but I also doubt Nylander is going to be moved.

I don’t see how he/ his agent can seriously expect to get anything over $7mln when Pasta is better and only makes $6.7 mln or whatever and I don’t see how the leafs think they can get him signed to less than $6mln given other comparables. Doesn’t seem like they can be that far apart.

20 Sep 2018 02:58:06
What kind of a joke is this proposal? If you trade Nylander to Vegas, you better get William Karlsson back in return.

20 Sep 2018 04:41:15
I agree I think he gets signed, I've said that all along he will get 6-8 years around $6.5 mill. Just so many people talking trade now and the obvious move is for a RHD. I think miller is the right balance for Rielly. Good core age too. Hague if he keeps progressing could take dermotts spot on third pair next year when dermott takes Gardiners spot on 2nd pair, to save more cap again.

Just a thought. I don’t want to trade Nylander, but I like this option a lot better than Subban at $9 mill or Stephen Johns at any price lol which were previously suggested.

20 Sep 2018 06:54:54
Good post jim 😃.

20 Sep 2018 12:36:49
Pretty good trade. I like Nylander and Miller. Makes sense for both teams, Nylander could be great in Vegas and they can afford him. Is losing Miller creating too much a hole in Vegas D tho? They have a good tip six right now with the two big additions this summer don't they?
Also, you can't add Johnson and Lievo into "best top 9 in the league". You can say a great top 7 tho. Haha.

20 Sep 2018 12:42:15
@NylanderMagic. I post to get responses, so I won’t be rude about your response, but explain then why you feel the leafs need to take back a Centreman who would be either 3rd or 4th best on the team rather than a RHD who would immediately be your best?

20 Sep 2018 12:53:03
@yupp, I said still “one of the best top 9s” not “the best”, amd having tavares, matthews, marner, Kadri and Marleau on top 3 lines, plus could have put Brown instead of Leivo, forgot all about him and he’s scored 20, don’t know many teams that can roll out a better 9 to be honest.

Also I did feel it could leave a bit of a hole in Vegas D, but that’s what it would take to get a player like Nylander. Their team is good but not extremely deep in any position yet, so to get a RW, which is their worst position, it’s going to leave somewhere else noticeably weaker unfortunately.

20 Sep 2018 14:04:36
The value seems about right. It does leave a hole in the Vegas defense though like yupp said. I agree with ovie that Brown deserves to be moved up but I don’t think Kapanen has had much of a chance playing with some talent either. I bellieve Babcock has said himself that Brown seems to get the shaft often because of the depth up front.

20 Sep 2018 17:01:45
I like it, althoigh, still seems slightly underwhelming of a return, just because of Willys youth compared to Millers. maybe an added pick like a 2nd and Toronto adds in a guy like Freddy Gauthier? Idk.

I don't mind this tho. Would (obv) prefer to hang onto willly, as most would.

20 Sep 2018 17:06:41
I think brown gets relegated to lower lines, not because of skill, but because he’s so responsible and so versatile that you never have to worry about who he's going to play with or how many minutes he gets, he’s always going to just do his job.

20 Sep 2018 17:08:02
Good post, interesting trade. Props Jimmy boy!

20 Sep 2018 22:33:02
jim i whole heartedy agree brown is a gem because he just does his job. he's a really low rent toews in my eyes, love watching him play.

jims just on point with this.

21 Sep 2018 05:49:32
Brown was actually taught responsible play by his dad, Dan. He was an amazing minor league coach and has appenrently been offered jobs to coach junior but says he gets to be a hockey dad at the highest level and watch his son play for the hometown leafs every night. Doesn’t want to give that up.

Dan Brown had a 10 or 11 year old Select team and won the championship, they offered him the rep A team and he just took his select team to A, won the chanpionship, was offered a AAA team and took his same guys mostly, won it all a few times in a row before a bunch of his guys went to the OHL at 16. In the 2012 Draft when the leafs took Brown in the 6th round, 6 or 7 (not sure exactly) players that dan had coached all the way up went in the draft that year including Scott Laughton in the first round to Philly and Jake Paterson, their goalie, to Detroit in the 2nd or 3rd round. That’s extremely impressive and shows why Brown plays the game the way he does. My dad has actually known Laughtons grandfather for decades and he told us that.

18 Sep 2018 17:13:04
3 Way Trade Proposal.

Carolina Trades
Faulk (Minnesota)

Minnesota Trades
Spurgeon (Toronto)
Seeler (Carolina)

Toronto Trades
Kapanen (Carolina)
Sparks (Minnesota)
4th Round Pick 2019 (Carolina)

Trade Breakdown.
Faulk-Kapanen,Seeler,4th Round Pick
Spurgeon,Seeler-Faulk,Sparks
Kapanen,Sparks,4th Round Pick
Spurgeon

Carolina solves the depth on the RDefence as TVR needs to play and adding Kapanen is a player they have wanted.
Minnesota replaces Spurgeon with Faulk a Minnesota born player and adds a good Goaltender Prospect in Sparks.
Toronto gets the Top Pairing Defenceman to pair with Rielly.

Thoughts ?

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18 Sep 2018 17:42:16
This exact thing was on here a week or so ago with poor responses. All this is going to do is have half the people say leafs aren’t paying enough, and then have VBB day Faulk is a piece of garbage that shouldn’t be in the league.

18 Sep 2018 21:12:56
Unbiased Jim. Faulk isn't that good. Just saying.

18 Sep 2018 22:02:58
He isn’t that good but saying he does belong not in the league is an overstatement I said it to emphasize the way people overvalue him.

18 Sep 2018 22:50:32
Cherry, Faulk is a decently good player. Second, vb, that doesn’t make any sense lol at all that doesn’t emphasize anything.

18 Sep 2018 23:50:42
It emphasizes the trade was bad.

19 Sep 2018 03:11:32
What trade. You have over exaggerated your hate on Faulk numerous times. lol. We got it tho, you just don't like that guy.

19 Sep 2018 16:07:32
Saying a player doesn’t belong in the league also doesn’t emphasize any trade proposal lol that’s two completely different things.
Anyways, Faulk is either moved around right when the season starts or not at all this year.

19 Sep 2018 21:37:01
Mcjesus, I have watched Faulk on numerous occasions and I don't view him as anything more than a 3rd pairing guy. People rag on Gardiner, but I would take him anyday over Faulk. And I am not even a huge Gardiner fan.

20 Sep 2018 00:20:01
That’s fine, just because you view him as a third pairing dman doesn’t necessarily mean he is, but he certainly belongs in this league and he has offensive attributes lots of players wish they had.

20 Sep 2018 10:54:23
Never said he doesn't belong in the league. Its his career minus 109 that scares the crap out of me.

20 Sep 2018 16:18:03
I know you didn’t say that but somebody else did lol.

17 Sep 2018 21:02:26
Calgary Flames trade (C) Sam Bennett and (D) Rasmus Andersson to Montreal Canadiens in exchange for (LW) Arturri Lehkonen, (2019) 3rd-Round Pick & a (2020) Conditional 2nd-Round Pick.

(If Bennett staples 40+ points in 2018-19 then the 2nd turns into a 1st Round Pick)

Projected Forwards

CGY -

J Gaudreau - S Monahan - E Lindholm
M Tkachuk - M Backlund - J Neal
A Lehkonen - M Jankowski - M Frolik
A Czarnik - D Ryan - B Pollock

MTL -

J Drouin - S Bennett - T Tatar
M Domi - P Danault - C Hudon
P Byron - N Suzuki - J Armia
A Shaw - T Plekanec - N Sherbak

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18 Sep 2018 01:05:31
Bennet is a third line center at best, I understan Montreal is rebuilding, but you still shouldn’t have him on the first line.

18 Sep 2018 02:25:47
That condition is brutal, Bennett should not be getting anything near a 1st, however I could see Montreal taking that and like leaf said he’s not going to be your first line center lol.

18 Sep 2018 06:16:40
No way should Habs trade this years 1st rounder. may end up being that Hughes kid. think they will battle Sens for the best odds at it.
Wouldn't be opposed to Bennett . but for the right price. but, I'm not really sure what his value is.? Is he still a prospective top 6? Or, is this who is is. a 10 goal 25 to 30 point 3rd liner.?

18 Sep 2018 22:02:42
Yeah, that condition is bad lol Sens get a 1st if the sharks get 9 years instead of 1 year of a superstar Dman. I get that using the Sens trade returns as a barometer is not ideal, but a forward hitting 40 points does not get you an added 1st rounder. If the habs don’t feel like Bennet could put up 40 points, they just don’t touch the initial trade to begin with. Anyone taking Bennett at this point is banking on a new situation sparking that offensive potential, not willing to pay future assets for him reaching the level of mediocre.

17 Sep 2018 17:36:22
CGY - S Bennett & M Jankowski
MTL - A Lehkonen, 2019 3rd-Round Pick & 2020 1st-Round Pick

EDM - Jesse Puljujärvi & Milan Lucic
MTL - Victor Mete & Nikita Sherbak

J Drouin - M Jankowski - J Puljujärvi
T Tatar - P Danault - M Domi
M Lucic - S Bennett - C Hudon
P Byron - T Plekanec - A Shaw

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17 Sep 2018 19:06:17
I think habs take their chances with their 1st and 3rd round picks than settling on Jankowski as a 1st line centre. Jankowski and Bennett are decent middle of the pack players, habs have those. They will keep the picks and try to find elite players.

18 Sep 2018 13:56:37
Montreal should definitely keep their picks cause they're going to stink, but I think jankowski is better than most would think, got 17 goals in 72 games as a rookie playing 3rd-4th line minutes.

18 Sep 2018 22:04:18
No way from Montreal on both.

16 Sep 2018 23:13:36
Detroit: SJ's second round pick
Ottawa: Trevor Daley

Ottawa needs a vet NHL defenseman. Detroit also rebuilding and could use the pick.

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17 Sep 2018 06:21:23
Lol not a 2nd.

17 Sep 2018 16:38:08
You can find ‘good leaders’ and veteran presence type guys for free in free agency, even after camps when some PTOs are released. Without giving up a 2nd while trying to accumulate young players.

17 Sep 2018 21:52:56
I am just thinking that those players haven't been signed or released from a PTO for a reason. I would rather have that roster spot taken by a kid. But I think when these guys get undressed by the elite, you'd like a little more than Ceci and Boro on the bench to provide that veteran element and leadership. Maybe the answer is in coaching or player development guys. Donovan and Kelly have a load of experience, but as players they were not that different from one another so likely bring a lot of the same attributes to the table. So if they hire only ex-Sens for this type of role, then maybe Curtis Lesyschen could be coerced. Or Chris Phillips or Wade Redden. You have to know every team is going to come hard on the forecheck against this D.

18 Sep 2018 00:52:41
Hey, if that’s what you want to spend assets on, I’d be happy to try to convince Dubas to send Hainsey your way for a 2nd.

Reality is, guys get cut from PTOs becaue they lack the speed or skill they used to have, not character and leadership. If they weren’t good characters, they never would get invited to be around a teams youth at camp to begin with.

 


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