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17 Mar 2019 18:56:50
After watching every injury that Wilson causes and what he has done to the those eastern teams, a guy like Lucic is a good answer to that.

Oilers: Lucic + Puljujärvi
Sens: Pageau

Oilers rid themselves of a bad contract in order to get a top 6 winger. Plus, they get a solid 3C. If oilers need to throw in a 3rd round pick, they should do it.

Sens get Puljujärvi, a strong prospect who just needs a new scenery.

Sens in return take on 50% of Lucic’s cap hit (they need to hit the cap), and then they trade him to an eastern team for a 3rd round or B prospect.

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17 Mar 2019 19:45:55
Oilers add their 1st Lucic is the worst contract in sports history. I challenge someone to name a worse contract. There needs to be a huge incentive to take on Lucic.

17 Mar 2019 22:38:12
Nah James neals contract is worse now. have about loui Eriksson contract.

17 Mar 2019 23:43:54
Rick Dipietro @vbbbvvbb

17 Mar 2019 23:45:39
Challenge accepted. How quickly a leaf fan can forget the David clarkson contract lol. Not to mention Jeff finger and mike komaizerek deals. Also Scott Gomez Ville leino vinny leacaviler Danny heatley bobby holos and rick dipietro all signed deals that were just as bad or worse.

18 Mar 2019 01:19:11
Rick Dipietro.

18 Mar 2019 08:00:06
Alexander Daigle.

18 Mar 2019 09:56:20
No I’d much rather have David Clarkson atleast he could skate. James Neal is way better and Louis Eriksson is actually still serviceable just 3 million overpaid. Di Pietro was only getting paid like 3 mil.

18 Mar 2019 14:30:27
Diepitro was getting 4.5 in a time when it was the equivalent to probably around 7.5 now and it was for 15 years lol. Also lucic at least is still playing unlike clarkson.

18 Mar 2019 14:57:50
Vb once you “challenge” something and you are immediately shown up and proven wrong, you can’t go and defend the players that got named.

18 Mar 2019 15:38:11
Di Pietro was only getting paid 3 million because they where retaining his contract lol.

18 Mar 2019 17:56:08
Kesler is getting paid I think 6.75M for 22 points combined in the last two seasons.

19 Mar 2019 12:32:27
Vinnys wasn’t that bad they just had to move on. It was a bit more expensive but he was scoring 20+ goals and 50-60 points a season. Had 10 and 32 in 39 games the year it was bought out. Also having a guy like Lucic to counter Wilson works in theory but not in practice. Wilson refuses to fight to answer for his hits more often then not and if intimidation prevented anything those guys would never have to stand up. The fact they still do means they aren’t preventing anything. Big bad bruins didn’t have enough to prevent Kadri in the playoffs last year, Abdelkader does whatever he wants then hides behind a ref. Lucic ties up cap and a roster space to not be able to play the game and also wouldn’t effectively limit those shots against, he was on the ice in his prime when Matt Cooke ended Marc Savards career with a dirty hit.

19 Mar 2019 12:33:30
Also I love how for worse contracts we haven’t even had to leave hockey yet, VB said sports history and Pujols and Bonilla haven’t even been brought up yet.

19 Mar 2019 15:40:44
Yeah baseball would be a whole new level their is probably 30 current contracts that are worse then lucic. I just stuck to hockey cause there are quite a few here that's as bad or worse then lucic.

19 Mar 2019 20:14:49
everyday i come on this site i just see vb getting dumber and dumber lol, looks like your challenge completely backfired and yet again leaves you looking like a delusional homer as always.

20 Mar 2019 04:19:32
I’m not sure about that, VB just really doesn’t like Lucic.

20 Mar 2019 11:38:27
”Neal is way better” still lucic got more points in a bottom team while neal plays for a top team.

20 Mar 2019 11:55:53
I think we need to see another season of Neal doing this before we can really say. Lucic has been bad for a couple years, this is Neal’s first bad season and could be an aberration.

17 Mar 2019 14:08:09
Edmonton must make trade. Only good players to trade is defense. So:

Edmonton trades Oscar Klefbom to St. Louis for Jayden Schwartz.

St. Louis must needs left defense. Only Dunn is good for left side defense. Edmonton needs winger for to play with McDavid. The money is very close as well. So this trade is good for both team.

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17 Mar 2019 15:08:13
. i thought edmonton was bad defensively but good offensively? why would they do this?

17 Mar 2019 17:24:41
No they are not good offensively they are Mcdavid and Draisaitl that’s about it on there forwards. The problem with Edmonton is they have too much money tied up in older slower players that aren’t worth the money. They need to try to sell and do a full rebuild and no more half ass rubbish they’ve been doing for the past decade.

17 Mar 2019 18:55:41
Edmonton is not very good offense or defense. But defense they have more tradeable players. Cannot affors to lose good players offense because is nobody good after top 3-4 guys. Chiarelli brings in lots of defense before fired. We can trade defense.

17 Mar 2019 21:11:07
Lol. They aren’t trading Klefbom for a winger. That would Jen create too big a hole in D. Klefbom is their beast back there (when healthy) .

18 Mar 2019 04:03:01
Absolutely idiotic for oilers to make that.

18 Mar 2019 08:11:26
Rather keep Schwartz

Blues have jaybo, Edmondson, Dunn on left side.

18 Mar 2019 15:37:47
But why is trade idiotic McJesus. Klefbom is very good player, yes. I watch him many times. But so is Swartz. We have so many other very good players on defense too. Nurse is very good. And Russell and Larsson too. We have many others that are very good too. If Schwartz is not worth Klefbom, then why not you tell us what he is worth?

18 Mar 2019 20:01:08
Blues will never trade schwartz. Brings to much to our team. He may be having a down year, but his play is still a driving force for the team.

20 Mar 2019 15:15:21
Zamboni Klefbom is Oilers only legit first pairing D. Nurse is a solid second pairing as is Larsson. Russel is not very good and all the D Chiarelli brought in at the end are 3rd pairing/ scratches. This trade does not help Edmonton.

17 Mar 2019 04:43:45
If Leafs get eliminated in the first round!

Traded for Defenceman help and needs to get tougher.

To Leafs: Manson, Rakell,
To Ducks: Nylander, Johnsson, Rosen

To Leafs Pesce
To Huricanes: Brown, Ozhiganov

Trade Zaitzev for picks

Gone and will not resigned
Gardiner
Hainsey
Holl
Marincin

Maple Leafs

Hyman, Tavares, Marner
Marleau, Matthews, Kapanen
Rakell, Kadri, Bracco
Ennis, Gauthier, Moore
Extra: Petan, Marchment

Rielly, Manson
Muzzin, Pesce
Dermott, Liljegren
Extra: Sandin, Borgman

Andersen
Spark

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17 Mar 2019 06:14:36
Oh my! that Carolina trade is horribly lopsided.

17 Mar 2019 13:39:43
If Nylander is worth Rackell, then Johnsson and Rosen for Manson? I don’t know if that is right. Manson is very good player. Top line right defense is very expensive no? Maybe is ok. But maybe not. Maybe why not you tell us how to value this trade?

17 Mar 2019 14:32:16
Why would Nylander be worth as much as Rakel. Age and potential are in Nylanders favour? I don’t think it’s a bad trade maybe leafs add a 2nd.

17 Mar 2019 15:09:38
Neither the Ducks or Hurricanes would get better making those lopsided, pro Leafs trades.

18 Mar 2019 08:09:08
Leafs haven't even played in the playoffs yet and you have them eliminated?
For starters Nylander, Marner and Matthews will not be traded, the 2nd waive of Johnsson, Kapanen and Dermott will also not be traded, and the other core 3 of Tavares, Rielly and Andersen will also not be traded by Dubas.
And also the guys Babcock likes which are Hyman, Marleau, TMoore and Muzzin will also not be traded by Dubas, what's left yes could be, which is
Kadri, Gauthier, CBrown, Zaitsev as your big 4, possibly a few prospects and later picks but in general the Leafs will stick to the Shanaplan and stay the course to build a contender year after year and add a piece here and there like they did Marleau, Boyle a few years ago and Muzzin this year.
Watching what they have done tells everyone this is how they will operate.

18 Mar 2019 13:21:47
@Pinball
1) leafs are going to be in cap trouble soon so there window to win starts now.
2) Nylander plays to soft and is getting called out for not being serious enough, I don’t think leafs are happy with his performance with the new contract and is the most likely to be traded for a D
3) after this season the leafs D gets weaker as it seems like Gardiner is going to be a free agent so they need to add something to replace him
4) out of the 4 player that you feel can be traded the only one that has a good trade value is Kadri the other 3 combined you’ll be lucky to get the value of a 2nd.

17 Mar 2019 01:37:15
Ilya Kovlachuk need a change of scenery it's a shame because if you watch him you can still tell he's a great player but LA just isn't a fit. Meanwhile Montreal has a terrible PP and Kovy would be the go to offensive guy there ( although on the surface people may think he's washed up I can promise you it's 100% misuse from the coach ).

Montreal: Karl Alzner And 1st 2019

LA: Ilya Kovlachuk

LA gets a 1st round pick for taking Alzner. Montreal gets a top 6 player who is still elite on the PP.

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17 Mar 2019 06:13:01
No thanks man I'd sooner alzner just rot in Laval then to give up a 1st.

17 Mar 2019 13:41:34
Kovalchuk is so old and Montreal looking for young players to rebuild. Why they want Kovalchuk? I don’t think is good trade. Kovalchuk too old.

17 Mar 2019 17:29:08
Take out the 1st and replace it with a 3rd or 4th it’s fair but habs will just buyout Alzner if they really don’t want him, they also have the cap to keep him for a year or two in Lavel if they want then buy him out.

17 Mar 2019 01:13:24
Habs - Jets
Drouin Laine

Bergevin and Habs Western Scout spent 2 days in Winnipeg and watched Jets and Wild game

Reportedly Bergevin wanted Laine straight up for Drouin but Jets wanted a 1st as well

Laine and Drouin are having similar years, stats wise and neither likes to backcheck, which is pissing off their respective coaches

Bergevin thinks that Laine might mesh well with KK and Armia to offset his defensive weakness

Didn't happen at the deadline but look for it over the offseason if Jets don't go deep in the playoffs.

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17 Mar 2019 03:36:49
Ya I'm sure the jets are going to give up one of the best goal scorers to come in the league since ovie.

17 Mar 2019 13:50:20
I read Laine is one trick pony. Scores lots of goals but nothing else. Maybe I don’t agree though. I don’t watch Jets so don’t know. But still very much better than Drouin yes. Or maybe is just on better team? Laine is not such good goal scorer as OV no. OV is best ever. OV has 163 goals after three seasons, Laine 110 maybe. Is very big difference.

17 Mar 2019 14:40:00
I wouldn’t trade Laine for Jack Huges tbh. Only way jets move him is if they get an offer that clearly benifits the team, a trade request or contract demands Jets can’t meet.

Honestly if I were the Jets and I got a offer sheet with 4 1sts I wouldn’t match.

18 Mar 2019 08:08:53
Jets would ask for Kk with Drouin.

18 Mar 2019 14:05:00
Laine is a 20 year old that has scored over 100 goals while Drouin is a lazy floater that even playing on his hometown team the Habs can't motivate him. No way the Jets do this trade and they will match any offer sheet.

18 Mar 2019 15:36:35
Hahahaha god I wish from mtl.

15 Mar 2019 21:10:36
Flames:
Brodie
2020 3rd rounder

Mtl:
Poeling
2019 1st rounder

Calgary free's up salary cap space for Tkachuk signing and get a solid pick and prospect back, Mtl gets some much needed defense help

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16 Mar 2019 00:26:49
I think CGY would accept that. Poehling seems like a pretty good prospect and could definitly use the pick. MTL could use Brodie.

16 Mar 2019 04:41:46
Habs could use Brodie but not at that price, he’s a solid top 4 guy but he isn’t that young and habs shouldn’t pay basically 2 first for a D that isn’t older then 25 imo. If this was Hanifin that would be a different story.

16 Mar 2019 05:05:19
Ever since Brodie and Giordano paired up, they’ve been great. Calgary has a strong defense and wants to keep it that way. Not a rebuilding team, they don’t need rookie or pick. They want to win now.

16 Mar 2019 13:53:44
Don't really see either team doing this. Value is not far off though.

16 Mar 2019 15:11:49
I wouldn't want to see that. That's a lot for Brodie. 2 first round picks. no thanks. he's decent, but I think he jus looks a lot better with Giordano than he probably really is.

17 Mar 2019 19:02:34
Is Brodie better because of Giordano? Or is Giordano better because of Brodie? Maybe they make each other better?

18 Mar 2019 08:03:59
I'd give Phoeling and a second rd pick for Brodie or the first rd pick and Calgary gives mtl a second rd oick.

18 Mar 2019 08:04:37
Hahahahahaha keep dreaming from montreal POV. You want a top 15 pick plus wjc MVP A prospect for a 29 year old defenceman who has 1 year of contract left. No thnx.

18 Mar 2019 08:05:48
Oil give Valimki with Brodie.

15 Mar 2019 19:25:33
Edm:
Matt Benning
2nd round pick in 2020

Tor:
Johnsson

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15 Mar 2019 19:52:07
Lol toronto doesn’t even consider.

15 Mar 2019 21:58:53
i don't think oilers consider either. if they can get Connor Brown for Benning straight up then why give away a 2nd round for a guy a bit better.

16 Mar 2019 02:17:53
but johnsson isn’t just a ‘bit’ better. since turning it on after his hat trick against philly in mid nov/ dec, he's been on a 50point pace, and has scored 20. i don't know how edmonton could say no, reallstically, johnssons their best winger and could be 50-60 point material++ alongside mcdavid.

imo, johnssons torontos third best winger himself, behind mitch and willy. i wouldn't trade him for benning and futures.

16 Mar 2019 05:07:09
I don’t think Toronto does that. Benning is bottom pairing depth guy. Johnsson is going to be top line beside Matthews if he isn’t playing there already. Leafs got lots good prospects too and don’t need Benning.

16 Mar 2019 14:35:15
Benning is a solid beer league guy maybe a good depth player in the ECHL. Definitely not worth anything near Johnsson.

16 Mar 2019 17:00:38
@bbbbvvbb
Just an ignorant and plain stupid comment.

16 Mar 2019 23:41:12
The reality is I was just emphasizing that Johnsson is worth a lot more then that.

17 Mar 2019 21:13:54
In with the classic delusional over exaggeration showing as always. Benning has a goal in three straight games and has been very solid with Sekera. If he was a Leaf you would be calling him elite.

18 Mar 2019 01:54:44
but he ain't worth johnsson tho.

hes a 5 imo. zaitsev skill without the contract.

18 Mar 2019 02:45:12
The Habs don't have the pieces to get Laine. Drouin would be an add to another piece.

18 Mar 2019 08:06:23
The Leafs 2nd wave of young stars are AJohnsson, Kapanen and Dermott and the Leafs aren't trading those players, when Shanahan and Company took over rebuilding the Leafs they had as they called it the Shanaplan and the Leafs have stuck to it developing there own players, yes as they have become a Top Team they will make a Muzzin type Trade here and there but they will still stick to the Shanaplan and trading AJohnsson for Benning and a 2nd Round Pick doesn't make sense for Toronto, any Trade the Leafs make will be prospects they have a lot at in one position plus a CBrown type player and Draft Picks.

14 Mar 2019 23:40:41
To EDM: W.Nylander
To TOR: O.Klefbom

To EDM: J.Manson + N.Ritchie
To ANA: J.Puljujärvi + 2019 2nd-Round Pick + 2019 3rd-Round Pick

To EDM: M.Ferland
To CAR: 2020 1st-Round Pick + M.Benning


UFA Signings:
Jakob Silfverberg (4.75M x 4YR)
Jay Bouwmeester (3.75M x 2YR)


Leon Draisaitl - Connor McDavid - William Nylander
Micheal Ferland - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Jakob Silfverberg
Milan Lucic - Jujhar Khaira - Nick Ritchie
Sam Gagner - Colby Cave - Zack Kassian

Darnell Nurse - Adam Larsson
Kris Russell - Josh Manson
Andrej Sekera - Jay Bouwmeester

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15 Mar 2019 04:30:21
Have ya heard of a salary cap bud.

15 Mar 2019 04:42:02
I can see how that 4 year 4.75 mil deal for silferberg would be tempting seeing as though he signed a 5 year 5.25 mil per year a few weeks ago lol.

15 Mar 2019 15:05:46
hahaha habby good point.

15 Mar 2019 16:18:31
Also CAR takes that and runs at the draft because Ferland is a UFA.

16 Mar 2019 05:08:46
I would love to see Edmonton make all these lopsided deals that heavily favor Oiler’s. Except the Bouwmeester signing. That’s a strange duck that one.

14 Mar 2019 23:36:58
To CGY: J.Puljujärvi + K.Yamamoto + A.Larsson
To EDM: J.Gaudreau

To STL: R.Nugent-Hopkins + First Rd Pick
To EDM: V.Tarasenko

J.Gaudreau / C.McDavid / V.Tarasenko
T.Rieder / L.Draisaitl / A.Chiasson
M.Lucic / C.Cave / Z.Kassian

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15 Mar 2019 00:05:01
That's a solid no on tarasenko.

15 Mar 2019 04:30:55
Nuge and a top 10 pick isn’t enough for tarasenko lol ok.

15 Mar 2019 14:29:32
That johnny hockey trade is awful.

16 Mar 2019 00:29:33
Maybe the worst set of trade proposals ever submitted. Very lopsided in EDMs favour.

18 Mar 2019 08:01:53
No it's not. Huge isn't needed. Tarasenko is a 35 40 goal scorer. Rather keep him. Besides end has a horrible track record of top 10 picks. Lol how many actually panned out.

18 Mar 2019 08:02:36
OK how about this Perron and 1st rnd 2020 2nd rnd 2019
for

Leon Drais. Right cause that is equal value some how lol.

18 Mar 2019 08:05:55
Why would calgary even want Larsson when they have a top 4 that is one of the best in the league already. Larsson does nothing to improve them in that area. Yamamoto is so small he no good and not make nhl maybe ever. Puljujarvi so big makes for big bust. He no good either.

14 Mar 2019 23:33:37
To CGY: K.Yamamoto + J.Puljujarvi + A.Larsson
To EDM: J.Gaudreau

Calgary helps out their horrible defence and prospect pool and Edmonton gets an elite scorer to play with McDavid.

1st Line F
J.Gaudreau / C.McDavid / L.Draisaitl

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15 Mar 2019 00:04:23
LOL ‘horrible defence.

16 Mar 2019 05:12:19
Why you post same trade twice? Maybe you post enough times it become true?

17 Mar 2019 01:15:51
Please explain how CGY’s D is “horrible? ”.

 


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