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14 Dec 2017 12:07:26
PHI receives: fabbri, 2nd rounder

STL receive: Simmonds

Steen stastny tarasenko
Shwartz Schenn simmonds
Sabotka Berglund jaskin
Upshall sunqvuist Brodziak

Boumeester pietrangelo
Edmundson Parayko
Gunnarsson Dunn

Allen

How's this trade?

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14 Dec 2017 13:45:29
Fabbry is not even the half of the value of a 30 goal score.

14 Dec 2017 16:36:30
If Fabbris health wasnt such a concern., I would say No on Blues end. kids got a ton of talent. jus hope his health turns around, has/ had the potential to be a top goal scorer in league.

14 Dec 2017 16:49:24
your just being hateful, lol. I don't think the blues are ready to give up on Fabbri just yet.

Simmonds would be a great addition but there are to many factors for both sides why this wouldn't work.

1) cap, fabbri makes 900k while simmonds makes 4 mil cap doesn't work.

2) Fabbri is comming off his second acl tear in same knee in two years

3) As for the 30 goal comment as a 19 year old fabbri had 18g 19a 37pts in 70 games as a rookie. simmonds as a rookie had 9g 14 a 23pts in 82 games.

To further elborate the following year before injury fabbri had 11g and 18a 29pts in 50 games he was on pace for 18g 48a 66pts. as a 20yr old sophmore so he has a lot more value then you lead on.

4) Simmonds is 29 yrs old and has one more year on his contract basically a rental. The only benifit is he is a rw and that is a need for the blues

Fabbri is cost controled RFA .

5) simmonds is on decline and Fabbri is huge? with Knee.

I personally wouldn't give up on Fabbri just yet for 1 1/ 3 years.

14 Dec 2017 20:47:29
If the numbers you gave were right then he was on pace for 47. He’s still young and has a lot of potential and he’s going to be a good player but he hasn’t put up great numbers yet. Not as good as Simmonds at least. But if the Blues think they wanna make a run then this trade is pretty decent IMO.

15 Dec 2017 01:21:36
Yeah must have mixed my number up. 47 pt pace 2nd year at 20. Simmons had 40 2nd year. But still fabric is younger. Don't think the blues should mortgage the future yet plus can't take on cap.

13 Dec 2017 21:57:42
Ottawa gets Barzal, leddy, 1st 2018

NYI gets Karlsson

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13 Dec 2017 22:40:10
No where near enough for karlsson lol ottawa laughs at this.

13 Dec 2017 23:28:34
Add tavares maybe, and add ceci from ottawa's side? Would that be better

14 Dec 2017 04:45:28
Islanders say no they have a deep De core there looking for another top six left winger.

14 Dec 2017 18:42:44
Islanders have a deep d core? since when? Lol nick leddy is their top dman and is a 3rd and 4th string guy anywhere else in the league lol how is that deep?

14 Dec 2017 20:50:48
this I way to much from islander lol nick leddy is a 1 pairing dman lol he gets 45 points a year and this year his on past for 55 60 lol how's 2 year young on a good contract then add a top line center and a 1 round pick and then ther have to many right handed dmen lol and this does make islanders any better Erik kralson overrated I don't think he's dan in the NHL just look at the defensive number lol.

14 Dec 2017 21:55:39
Karlsson hoffman

Tavares leddy 1st and a prospect.

13 Dec 2017 21:18:31
To Edmonton
Karlsson

To Ottawa
Hopkins
Nurse
Klefbom
2018 1st
2019 2nd

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13 Dec 2017 21:34:24
If that’s what it takes to get Karlsson, I don’t think it’s worth it. Especially a team like Edmonton who has spent years collecting all the young talent they have. Trading those pieces away is a step backwards IMO.

13 Dec 2017 21:45:50
Quality doesn't mean quantity. Ottawa wants quality in return not just scraps. Only good player in return is Klefbom. Hopkins ain't much quality and so is nurse.

13 Dec 2017 22:16:22
Your not to smart if you think rnh is not quality player if he was in Ottawa right now he would be there number one center lmao but I think his asking price is going to be to much probably around 13 a year oilers can't afford that.

13 Dec 2017 23:55:23
First time I have ever agreed with high290 lol dead on.

14 Dec 2017 00:37:38
That's to much. and remember (Sorry Yup lol), that 2018 pick could, with the Oilers damn luck in the lottery be Dahlin lol. but even take that pick out. that's still alot. and then here is the question of how he plays with McDavid? Does his game somewhat change due to the fact, he's not the top offensive threat on the team. I know it worked for Coffee and Gretzky., but that was a different era. on another post, there was discussion of him looking a little not himself. that would concern me a bit about a big investment and losing lots of talent at the same time. don't get me wrong. he's a remarkable talent, kind of on the generational conversation, of course if be happy if he was on my team, but paying these guys for what they have done until they are well passed there primes is a scary tbought.

14 Dec 2017 00:39:09
RNH has a few more years left as far as I know and no way he asks for 13. Also not one piece coming from Edmonton is scrap, you can argue in a trade for Karlsson that a 2nd isn’t much value. Even if that is Karlssons value (I think it’s close but too much) no team would do it.

14 Dec 2017 00:53:42
Im talking about quality like Karlsson. If you compare them lol, which you shouldnt, RNH is garbage. Ottawa wants to become better, not get more assets

14 Dec 2017 04:56:14
You're not going to win a Karlsson trade. You're especially not going to win to the point where you're instantly better. Sorry, not going to happen.
Yesterday I thought he was staying in Ottawa %100. Today I'm in the fence and don't know what to think. This story is fueled by the media tho, and I don't think either side, Karlsson or Owner Melnyk likes that.
With Turris saying what he did, then Dorion saying what he did, then Turris wife reply "Lol" on Twitter to Dorions comments. It's kinda a big mess at the Kent and maybe it's starting to turn Karlsson off a little, I don't know. I know I would Be annoyed.
Kinda same idea as Kessel with Toronto media.
Eberlazy and Hall whining about the media.
Media blows things up sometimes. Kinda stupid.

14 Dec 2017 05:13:13
And it could be the big story and huge distraction this weekend for the outdoor game weekend supposed to be celebrating 100 NHL years. Kinda crappy.

14 Dec 2017 07:03:43
Ugh, no from Edmonton. Lol. And Nuge is garbage lmao ok.

14 Dec 2017 12:27:05
Crazyattack if you think you're getting a Karlsson + back in a trade for Karlsson you're sorely mistaken. Teams are going to trade for him to get better now Ott needs to get used to that. They're going to get future assets with maybe somr underwhelming current assests for cap reasons. Nurse has been great this year RNH is a good piece that 1st could be huge and Klefbom is seriously underrated a legit top pairing guy. Nurse and Baral are good starting points from EDM and NYI respectively.

14 Dec 2017 16:55:05
I don’t think Karlsson asking for 13 million is that out of the question. Cap will be up 5 mill or so more from when mcdavid got 12.5. I know mcdavid is viewed as the best (or second best) player in the league, but Karlsson (minus the last 15ish games) is viewed as the best Dman in the league. #1 centres play 17-20 min a game. The best ones play 20-22, maybe 23 min. A #1 Dman plays 23-26 min and the best ones are pushing 30min. Don’t think agents and unions aren’t going to start playing the ‘work load’ card in negotiations as sports science and player safety issues keep coming up. These guys wear and tear on their bodies is far more than a lot of the high end forwards between the added minutes they play and getting hit by fore checkers going back for pucks. A good case to be made that they risk shorter careers and will want compensated now for it. Technically he’s worth more than mcdavid in that regard and I think people may be surprised at doughty and Karlsson cap hit after next year.

14 Dec 2017 20:50:23
Read that wrong. Haha but yeah Karlsson I’m sure will be around the 11-13 make.

14 Dec 2017 23:01:36
That approx 7 minutes difference in ice time per game between a top centre and a top D is about 575 min over an 82 games season. That’s like karlsson/ suter/ doughty etc playing almost 25 extra games either of ice time over a mcdavid/ Crosby/ kopitar in a season. That’s insane lol if I were them, I’d be cashing in when given the chance too.

13 Dec 2017 21:00:07
To St-Louis
Nyquist

To Detroit
2018 2nd
Schmaltz
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To Edmonton
Hoffman

To Ottawa
Bear
2019 3rd

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13 Dec 2017 21:09:43
Believe it or not the Oilers are most likely not interested in trading their best top D prospect, (a right handed offensive one they need as well) for a $6M winger.

13 Dec 2017 21:10:50
Who the hell is bear? Ottawa isn’t giving away one of their best forwards for a third and a random player.

13 Dec 2017 21:15:24
not sure if edmonton needs a lwr but he is good. Bear is also a nice asset. But i would think an A lvl prospect elc is worth more than a 25-30 goal scorer with 2 years. You would have to take maroon or another cap equivalent player back. Oilers need to watch their cap.

As for the st. louis deal that won't work blues can not take on 5 mil already at the cap. I just don't see a possible solution for the blues. Det would have to retain or take gunnerson and another 1mil person then at that point you wouldn't get schmaltz. it just doesn't make sense. Need to trade Jaybo to free up money.

13 Dec 2017 21:34:50
Yup you wouldn’t trade Bear and a 3rd for Hoffman? I’m kind of excited to see what Bear turns into, could have a Montour type start to his career if we’re lucky. But Oil would actually get a left wing with skill. I’m sure Ottawa wouldn’t do it though.

13 Dec 2017 23:59:33
You wouldn’t trade a kid you took in the 5th round that has never proved he could play in the nhl and a 3rd for Hoffman?! Starting to sound like those habs fans you constantly chirped for being delusional. Oilers fans lately seem to think they’re going to find the high skilled scoring winger with mid round picks and wash ups.

14 Dec 2017 02:16:51
First one, i think STL says no. Isnmt Schmaltz good? I thought he was a pretty highly touted prospect before. hm. And a second isn't just a minor addon. And Gus has fallen off, he's more just a 40 point guy.

Sexond one, Ottawa says no. Idk how Edmonton says no @yup. Only for cap reasons, I woukd think. But still, Bear and a 3rd is basically like Dermott and 2nd if I'm thinking Torontos perspective. And even with Torontos forward depth, that's a hell yes from Toronto. So yeah, besides cap, Edmonton takes that.

14 Dec 2017 05:09:19
I'm saying I don't think Edm who is very high on Bear doesn't want to let that go for a winger.
Bear is a right handed very offensive point per game 70 points in 67 games last year and 65 points in 67 games the year before. Played unreal in playoffs for Seattlw thunderbirds as well named whl D man of the year.
With no money going out bringing in $5.1M (mixed him up, my bad thought was $6M) for a winger with two more years on contract. Might not be the best idea cap wise.
I would include bear in a trade for Karlsson tho, easily.
I'm saying I believe they are very high on Bear and might not want to give up on for a winger That's not really far fetched. I'm not screaming "omg bear is the next Karlsson ya right they would trade for Hoffman, he's amazing"
relax now.
Age. Contract. Position. ELC Vs UFA in two years. Lots to it. And that's just my opinion.
I wouldn't be mad if they made that trade tho also.
I do very very liked Hoffman tho. I would actually rather trade Moto for him and I love him as well. Position wise being the reason. Winger for winger. Makes more sense on the depth pool. If they brought in Hoffman it's bye bye Maroon then as well.

14 Dec 2017 06:40:52
I agree if the Oilers were able to get Hoffman for Bear and a 3rd they should take it, but Bear has improved a ton since being drafted. If they did a re draft now (early I know) I'm pretty sure he'd be a 2nd rounder at worst. He was the WHL dman of the year last year and a right shot PP quarterback is something the Oilers are really lacking right now. Hopefully he can fill that role in a couple years.

14 Dec 2017 07:06:00
Pretty easy no from Edmonton. Like said, Bear is in the mold of exactly what Edmonton needs on the point and Hoffman is like 8 years older and making 6mil? Like on what planet does that make sense for Edmonton adding more cap when they don’t have the space.

14 Dec 2017 13:51:33
Bear can go in a Karlsson trade tho? lol I remember senskill saying only way oilers could get Karlsson was if draisatl was included and these same oilers fans tearing him apart. now you’re willing to give up the one and only ETHAN BEAR in a trade for struggling Karlsson. You guys sure have come a long way. So generous.

14 Dec 2017 14:41:06
Lol. Wow. Relax man. I'm not the only one who wouldn't trade Bear, 3rd for Hoffman here. He's not just "some random 5th rounder" lol. Actually look into what he's done the last three years then decide, it just where he was drafted. And needs of the team.
I said I would include him in a deal for Karlsson, yes, because then we would have the right handed offensive D we want and not groom Bear into that position hopefully anymore. I did say hopefully, not saying it's a for sure thing, again, relax.
A package around maybe Drai, Bear, 1st for Karlsson is probably close. They might ask for Nurse or Klefbon instead of Bear tho. I'm not sure.
I'm not sure what to think if Drai, Bear and 1st for Karlsson would be on the table. I would be torn. Especially if Karlsson wants $12M+ for 8 years at age 29 when that 8 year deal would kick in. I think I would lean to wanting to stay away from that contract maybe, especially for those 3 young solid assets.

14 Dec 2017 15:46:15
I’m very relaxed actually. It’s just funny that you have been the first guy to go after people and call them delusional, whether it’s habs or leafs fans and I stayed out of it because in most cases, you were right, they were delusional. But you are on the other side now and valuing oilers assets like gold against others but don’t see it. It’s not anger, it’s just me having a sense of humour at your hypocrisy. If a leafs fan said Travis dermott and a 3rd or a habs fan offered juulsen and a 3rd for a top line winger off the oilers, they would be abused by the same 2 or 3 guys. It’s enertaining.

14 Dec 2017 16:33:22
Yup. so you would be good with Perron and 3rd for Klefbom? cause that's essentially what you're asking for. A great Junior player and a third for a first liner .

14 Dec 2017 17:11:30
No, they wouldn’t take that offer Hoff. They would say klefbom is a stud and you should add in White. I’ve seen offers from habs fans on here for RNH that are better than this one for Hoffman and yup has called them delusional and “hell no from oilers”. I know RNH is a centre and therefore gets a little premium on Hoffman, however Hoffman is far better offensively which evens it out, plus makes a million dollars less. It’s just overvaluing their own players, and every fan base is guilty of doing it at times. But if you’re going to always be ‘that guy’ who calls everyone else on it, have to expect to hear about it when you do the exact same thing.

14 Dec 2017 17:41:42
Now you guys are just being pricks here. Oilers would not take that trade and idk why that’s so hard for you to understand.

14 Dec 2017 18:21:23
Now you're just hearing what you wanna hear.

14 Dec 2017 18:23:29
It’s so hard to understand because it’s been reported that they’re looking for a scoring winger, sens misfortune let's one possibly become available, someone makes a suggestion at a reasonable price and the same guys dismiss it who get their backs up the other way. Yup has been calling habs fans dumb and delusional for 3 or 4 weeks straight for more fair offers than this. I’ve always stayed very neutral and unbiased. Stop being pricks to everyone that doesn’t agree with you and people won’t be pricks back. We were taught that, using different words in kindergarten lol.

14 Dec 2017 18:25:37
In no way shape or form am I delusional for simply suggesting that I believe the oilers don't want to trade their A RH offensively minded D prospect for a winger. I'm not screaming omg he's amazing and will be a Norris trophy winner, The other guy is garbage.
I'm suggesting that I believe the oilers value that need of a RH offensive D more than a winger at this time.
If you had Moto for Hoffman instead, I would see r as more believable.
How is that delusional? I also said Intelsat like Hoffman and if they made that trade I wouldn't be mad. Because if we were set on RH offensive D with a Doughty or something then I would trade bear for Hoffman.

14 Dec 2017 18:31:44
Panties in a knot today. Wow.
Gotta think of the cap and age too. Two more years of Hoffman for a guy who is a big part of your future you're hoping (the oilers I believe are high on him) call me insane to think that. Hoping the cap goes to around $80M so they can possibly keep Nuge I don't think then they would be able to add $5M Hoffman for just an pick and prospect and no money going out. They would then trade maroon at deadline for sure then.
Maybe this kind of deal for this team close to cap with Mcdavids contract coming in next year and the uncertainty of the cap. Maybe this is a better deal to discus in the off season when you know the cap, know which RFA and others you are signing to see if you can bring in a $5M winger for your best D prospect
Ya. I'm delusional for thinking that out hey.

14 Dec 2017 19:21:13
Hoffman for Yamamoto would be better? That’s a good offer too. Because I posted that yesterday, that exact thing and mcjesus says that’s not good enough either. Kinda making my point here for me. But anyway, the oilers don’t need proven goal scoring wingers to play with 2 great centres to help drag them out of the basement as long as they have point per game junior players. you’re right.

14 Dec 2017 20:25:44
Nah yup. The problem w u is, you can't admit when your wrong. You make fun of leaf/ hab fans and call em delusional, but any critique on the Oilers is heavily defended. Hell, you still defend the Hall and Eberle trades. Like come on. Ya got to be able to take what you dish out.

And i GUARRANTEE you, if i said:

Lets trade Travis Dermott and a 2nd for Mike Hoffman, I'd have 30 dislikes and be named the new 'Pinball'. Just admit that a jumior player ain't enough for Hoff.

15 Dec 2017 00:37:55
Admit when I'm wrong? Who are you to say my opinion is wrong? WTF. That's an opinion in itself hypocrite.
You guys just choose to only see the delusion criticism and read what you wanna read. Wow.

15 Dec 2017 02:12:52
I never said you were wrong. All I said is in the same situation when you’re on the other side, you tell everyone they’re wrong. So if your opinion isn’t wrong today, why is everyone else’s for the last month? Lol if you can honestly say you have never called someone delusional for offering a mid prospect and a mid pick for a top line player, then I am 100% wrong. But we all know you have because we have read it over and over again.

13 Dec 2017 19:00:52
Ottawa - Karlsson

For

Dallas - Klingberg, Gurianov, rights to Nichushkin and a 2018 2nd round pick

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13 Dec 2017 19:16:24
Bruh that’s not even close.

13 Dec 2017 19:49:34
We really talk about Eric Karlsson, that’s not even the half of his value, the minimum was to add Jamie Benn or Seguin!

13 Dec 2017 22:47:21
Karlsson is the best defenceman and top 3 player in the world next only to mcdavid and Crosby. to get him it will start with 2 elite players and at least 1 bad contract like Phaneuf going with him. this particular deal is laughable at best!

14 Dec 2017 19:41:12
Funny how different the responses are here and on the Leafs post above. Nylander and Marner too much, but Klingberg, Gurianov, Nichushkin and 2nd is not even close. Suuuuure.

13 Dec 2017 18:59:35
Ottawa needs to blowup their team.

OTT: Duschene
PIT: 1st Round 2018 or 2019 (depending on OTT/ COL pick being traded), 2nd Round 2018, Sprong

OTT: Hoffman
SJ: Meier, 2nd Round Pick 2018

OTT: Karlsson
DAL: Faska, Honka, Heiskanen, 1st Round Pick 2019

OTT: Ryan
LV: Leipsic

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13 Dec 2017 19:17:57
Huge no from Pitt
Huge no from San Jose
Honestly I think Sens could get better
Huge no from Vegas.

13 Dec 2017 19:42:54
Lol. And this is just the beginning, these are already starting to be annoying. Poor Karlsson.

13 Dec 2017 19:50:53
Wayyy to much for Duchene
And nothing for Karlsson.

13 Dec 2017 22:23:55
Huh. No from Sens on all except the last one .

13 Dec 2017 22:51:55
All huge no from ottawa

They ain't trading Duchene for any less than what they gave up for him don't kid yourself

Karlsson is worth 20x that

Hoffman also worth 20x that

And Ryan is a better asset than that nobody from Vegas even with his contract.

15 Dec 2017 02:02:45
Ryan is a cap dump not an asset lol, that vegas trade would benefit ottawa greatly. ryan will be 31 before the end of year and will make 7.25m for the next four years with a NTC. vegas won't do it.

13 Dec 2017 18:43:03
Mtl) Danault
Ott) Pageau

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13 Dec 2017 18:47:10
I most love Danault then Pageau, Danault make so much for the Canadiens, last season 1st line center!

13 Dec 2017 22:24:35
No thanks. again. Pageau has more value to the team than he does on paper. not worth trading him.

14 Dec 2017 00:40:58
XxHabsXX. I like Danault as Well, but let's remember, he was number one by default. but. I do like him as a good 3rd line maybe, even an average 2nd liner. hope he can be our new Plekanec type. good 2 way centerman.

13 Dec 2017 18:19:52
With all these Karl rumours, i just thought i should give my two cents as a sens fan.
IF Karl were to be traded, i think we would 100% need a young Elite Center coming back. Such as a Draisaitl or a Barzal, as i've seen posted already. Someone *established* in the league as a top young player.

Looking at the theoretical team in relation to a Karlsson trade, the Sens would need a top 9/6 winger, and could always use 1st rounders to help fill the cupboards.

Also maybe a Defenseman who can fill the minutes left by Karlsson. Maybe a sold Right handed Defensive Defenceman to play with Chabot?

Now i'm not saying that they should get all of those in one trade straight up for Karl ofc. But if we were to trade him, those would be the needs that we need to fill.
____________________________________________________________

But i would love something along these lines.

OTT: Karlsson, Pageau
NYI: Barzal, Leddy, Hosang, 1st, 2nd, 2nd
____________________________________________________________

OTT:
Karlsson (6.5m)
Pageau (3.1m)

total: 9.6m

NYI:
Barzal (0.863m ELC)
Leddy (5.5m)
Hosang (0.863m ELC)

total: 7.1m

- NYI takes on 2.5 mil in extra cap space.
- They currently have 3.2m cap space per CapFriendly
- After this season they will no longer have to pay Kulemin (4.187m) and Halak (4.5m) that money can go to Karl's new contract
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Ryan - Barzal - Stone
Hoffman - Duchene - Hosang
Dzingel - Brassard - Smith
Pyatt - Thompson - Burrows

Leddy - Phaneuf
Chabot - Claessen
Boroweicki - Ceci

Anderson
Condon
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Lee - Tavares - Bailey
Ladd - Pageau - Eberle
Beauvillier - Nelson - Quine
Chimera - Cizikas - Clutterbuck

Pulock - Karlsson
Dehaan - Pelech
Hickey Sidenberg

Greiss
Halak
____________________________________________________________

Idk. Let me know what you guys think. who adds.

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13 Dec 2017 19:21:30
Gonna say no from Islanders, but yes I do think the value is close. IMO i'd add Pulock instead of Leddy as he is younger and also right hand shot and I think that makes more sense for sens (and way cheaper than Leddy) .
But I don’t think Islanders should commit to that unless Tavares is 100% going to sign in NY, but I mean I couldn’t see him not if the best defenseman was coming haha. This is interesting good post.

13 Dec 2017 20:25:55
Not bad. Mcjesus is right tho. Can’t make this trade until JT is committed, for 2 reasons. #1 is obviously that getting Karlsson means you think you can win, but losing your best player 6 months later can’t happen. And secondly, Barzal can only be traded if Tavares is there for the next 5 years at least because as much as they have some good young players in the system, no one but Barzal has a legit chance of being a star #1 center.

13 Dec 2017 22:27:48
alright thanks for the input McJesus.

13 Dec 2017 22:55:42
Karlsson alone is worth more than everything the islanders give why would ottawa need to add pageau? Not smart and a solid no from ottawa!

14 Dec 2017 00:42:24
Hoff. even though he may not be established yet. how bout Philly?
Patrick
1st
Ghost.

13 Dec 2017 14:18:57
If sens are committed to tearing it down, they should have done it 6 weeks ago obviously before the Duchene trade. But if he is available, like it’s been suggested, what about

Edmonton - Hoffman
Ottawa- Yamamoto.

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13 Dec 2017 15:30:45
I hit send accidentally. Don’t know if 1 for 1 would do it for either team. But I think it gives oilers a real scoring threat on the wing for today, and gives the sens a kid with a ton of potential to add to white and Chabot and brown as their next core. Obviously this only happens if Sens are blowing it up. If they’re serious about trading the core, imagine those 4 prospects, plus what they would get for Karlsson/ Brassard/ Stone etc.

13 Dec 2017 17:25:05
Good base.

Dont know how the Oil will be able to afford Hoff with Lucic, Russell and Sekeras huge contracts + McD and Drais. Maybe they send some cap in some way back.

Imo though, Oil add to Hoff for Moto. Cause Hoff is a proven player with 50 point years to his name. But definetky not a bad base.

13 Dec 2017 18:22:39
Yeah, no way Ottawa does this lol. Hoffman is a sniper, probably one of the best shots in the nhl.

13 Dec 2017 19:22:57
Would love Hoffman on Edmonton but he’s 28 and Yama is 19. No I would not do that one for one age difference is way too much.

13 Dec 2017 20:59:46
I get the age gap is tough for Edmonton to take, but if oilers want a proven sniper like they have been Apparently looking for, they’re going to have to give someone significantly younger. No one is trading a 25-30 year old top 6 for a similar age or older guy. Defeats the purpose of moving Hoffman or anyone like him. What would oilers want to trade for Hoffman, patches, JVR type players? Maroon, Lucic, strome, Kassian, Russell, Sekera isn’t getting it done. So it’s either good young players that aren’t on the roster now, or some of your better core players which makes no sense. Don’t see them getting a guy that can score 30 goals for them if 1 late first rounder prospect is too steep lol.

13 Dec 2017 22:30:13
As much as i loved Yamomoto at the draft, i'm not sure we need another RW. and for the price that were giving up (a 27/ 29/ 25 goal scorer) I certainly hope that Kailer has the potential to be a 1st line RW/ C.

14 Dec 2017 00:06:50
Hoff, that makes sense. I was going to put a small add on oilers side with Yamamoto but then left it to see what people thought. But apparently I should be adding picks with Hoffman to get a late first from the oilers lol everyone else’s top line wingers are worth nothing to Edmonton anyway, so doesn’t matter haha.

13 Dec 2017 08:12:05
OTT - Dougie Hamilton + Matthew Tkachuk + Rasmus Andersson + First Round Pick
CGY - Erik Karlsson (Signed)

BUF - Evander Kane
CGY - Michael Stone + Adam Ruzicka + Oliver Kylington + Second Round Pick

Apparently Doiron requested Karlssons no trade list and Flames are a front runner for Kane.

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13 Dec 2017 14:40:09
No way Calgary trades for Karlsson, makes zero sense to get another top d man especially if it involves losing one of their best wingers, a position they are struggling to find offence at. I’m not saying value is off because Karlsson is (in my opinion) the 3rd best player in the world but overall I don’t think Calgary i'd the right destination if he were to leave.

The second one I like. Makes sense for both teams but I would only look into Kane if there was a good chance he’d resign.

13 Dec 2017 16:14:10
Karlsson is not allowed to sign an extension until July 1st 2018. So that can’t really technically be a condition unless the trade isn’t made until the summer. He could say he has the intention of re-signing, but not a chance that the union will let a team hold a player to a verbal commitment he made 18 months before he’s a UFA.

15 Dec 2017 10:56:11
Besides the flames not owning a first round pick, not a fan of the first one, Matty tk and dougie are both great players, and fill the roles they need to, seems like we would be creating a hole to upgrade on dougie, but I don't think the upgrade is worth losing tk, would definitely go for the Kane trade though.

 


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