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16 Feb 2018 16:47:35
Mtl:Pacioretty,Plekanec,Lehkonen, 2nd/2018 (Washington)

Flo:Bjugstad,Borgstrom,1st/2018(draft protect) become 1st/2019 (non-protect)

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16 Feb 2018 16:53:23
Nice try. Florida isn't trading their 1st for one year of Pacioretty.

16 Feb 2018 19:24:44
-Its so easy to sign Pacioretty right away (~7,5m/ 5-6 years) . He's going to be in love with Florida after all the big pressure of Mtl.

-Plekanec would be a realy nice addition as a third line center with experience but also realy good for defensive mission like 5 on 4.

-Lehkonen have a good potential. He's a realy good two way player with a good wrist shot.

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-Bjugstad is a big center, still young who score around 20-25 goals. But never develop as he was suppose to.

-Borgstrom is the big piece of that trade. He have a lot of potential, he have good hand and he's able to score but still he proved nothing yet in the Nhl.

-The first choice with the second 2018 Florida receive is nothing for Pacioretty. The only piece Florida lose in the line up is Bjugstad.

And look at the Florida lines.

Huberdeau-Barkov-Dadonov
Pacioretty-Trocheck-Malgin
Mccann-Plekanec-Lehkonen
Mcginn-Mackenzie-Sceviour

-Look realy good for the final push and next years! No?

-Mtl have what they crucialy need, depth at the center position.

16 Feb 2018 19:49:09
I want Montreal to keep lehkonen. He’s got lots of potential just hasn’t been able to find a groove with injuries and the lack of offensive centers.

16 Feb 2018 20:23:37
I agree! But you have to give if you went a good center and everybody know that Mtl need center, so.
Anyway mtl have a lot of wingers and I have more hope in Hudon or Sherback for there offensive potentiel than Lehkonen who's more defensive and need to improve offensive. Also Lehkonen have a better value I think.

16 Feb 2018 14:00:52
Read something like this on the web.

EDM - Lucic and 4th round pick 2018
For
OTT - Bobby Ryan

Ottawa gets 1.25 mill in relief and rid of Bobby Ryan

Edmonton gets someone that could possibly play on McDavids wing


Thoughts?

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16 Feb 2018 15:31:33
No thanks. doesn't Lucic still have like 5 yrs left at 6m? pretty sure Ryan only has 3 yrs left.

16 Feb 2018 16:06:06
Per yesterday, very interesting trade.

FYI Ryan is signed till 21/ 22 Lucic an extra year.

Edmonton's the one that's tight against the cap so an Ottawa retention of minimum 1.25M is most likely required.

Both players have some sore of NTC as well that could hamper this trade.

I think both teams benefit from this though, so decent trade proposal.

16 Feb 2018 17:37:34
If Ottawa is looking to rebuild Lucic will be a good asset to have and atleast he’ll play, Ryan is literally hurt every couple days and heard Ottawa is done dealing with that. Oilers take a bigger cap and imo more risk but I do like the trade.

16 Feb 2018 17:38:00
Cant see ottawa taking lucic's 6 million dollar cap charge and extra year term if retention is in the discussion tbh.

16 Feb 2018 21:25:15
Ryan has 4 Years, while Lucic has 5 Years. Lucic is 1 million cheaper and more durable.

17 Feb 2018 00:23:29
Oilfan. if retention on the ryan contract is expected, i can't picture any possible way that would work out cheaper for the sens.

16 Feb 2018 07:16:36
Oil: Nuge
Sens: Hoffman
Oil: Strome + 2nd
Yotes:Domi

Oil: Maroon
TB: Cirelli.

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16 Feb 2018 07:23:00
We can tell you're an Oilers fan.

16 Feb 2018 09:05:58
The first proposal is all over right now and I think it’s fair. Hoffman is a true sniper but Hopkins is much younger and a center. As far as the second proposal goes, I don’t think anyone wants Strome. I don’t know the guy from Tampa in the last proposal but I really hope Maroon doesn’t end up in Tampa or Boston.

16 Feb 2018 17:05:42
Strome is awful.

16 Feb 2018 17:22:27
Ottawa has no need for another center, the first trade makes no sense at all.

16 Feb 2018 18:08:30
They are maybe trading Brassard. And if they do Nuge would be appealing to them.

16 Feb 2018 18:47:21
RNH is worth more than those guys.

16 Feb 2018 19:55:47
I just heard that the RNH for hoffman deal is in fact an actual rumour, my bad.

16 Feb 2018 20:57:16
Strome and Domi really haven’t had that different of careers. Both young but Domi definitely has the higher potential. That’s an early 2nd. 1st would seem like an overpayment IMO. And if Oil get Domi I wouldn’t want to trade RNH for Hoffman.

16 Feb 2018 16:27:29
The Hoffman for RNH trade has been suggested by the Media and is all over the Edm websites. The fans are outraged with the straight Hoffman for Hopkins trade so don't think that will go down. Ottawa would have to put in something else decent with Hoffman to appease the masses.

If this trade went down the collection in Edmonton for the GM to go billboards would be massive.


2nd trade. Favors Edm a bit too much. I think Arizona will get more than that for Domi. Trade probably depends on how bad they want to dump Domi.

3rd trade.

Maroon for who? A magic bean that might play in the NHL someday? Well. who can argue about getting an asset for a UFA I guess.

16 Feb 2018 05:31:46
Canucks sam gagne del zotto

Ottawa bobby ryan Formenton

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16 Feb 2018 05:41:01
Ahahahhahaha.

16 Feb 2018 15:33:22
No thanks . ill take those two for Ryan alone . really don't like either of Gagne or Delzotto's contracts . plus Formenton is one of our best prospects.

16 Feb 2018 03:43:09
Darren dreger reported at the intermission that patrick maroon could be on the move before the deadline, apparently chiarelli has been fielding calls from winnipeg and boston for the big winger.

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15 Feb 2018 23:53:42
Peguins haglin sprong 2 first rd pick 2 and 3

Islander tavares


Malkin crosby sheary
guentzel tavares kessel
Hornqvist Sheahan rust

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16 Feb 2018 00:03:19
As crazy as that would be and I’d love to see it it's not worth I think. Maybe take out a first round pick then yes from Pittsburgh's side but then NYI wouldn't consider that.

16 Feb 2018 00:20:54
Haha yikes.

16 Feb 2018 01:37:36
3 Superstar Centers on one team.?

16 Feb 2018 01:41:19
It is also time for Pens to slowly think about the future. Yes Crosby and Malkin and even Kessel are still top line players and will be for a while yet.
Still, giving that many picks away for a sure rental is to much IMO.

16 Feb 2018 03:00:18
NYI wouldn’t consider it as it is lol.

16 Feb 2018 03:39:46
Sosa, Rutherford today said he doesn't care and isn't thinking about a rebuild in 4/ 5 years whatever from now. He's going in for another cup, wants 3 in a row. Wants to add another D man and probably a center. They have carried 8 healthy D men each the last two playoffs and won the cup, looking to probably do the same this year.

16 Feb 2018 04:47:46
I agree why worry about the future now when you should focus and creating history and win now. I’m just saying 2 first round picks done right can get them a lot but is it really worth it for a player you know you can’t afford? Look at the moves Rutherford has made, pays a lot for guys like Hornqvist, Kessel, Hagelin and Bonino but He inkwell they were more than rentals while he payed very little for guys like streit, Hainsey and schultz cause he knew those were pure rentals although the managed to sign Schultz but cause he was still an RFA and had value.

16 Feb 2018 05:54:58
Well, then think Vanek., maybe Pacioretty, Nash, Kane. can't see Tavares.

16 Feb 2018 14:50:25
And I would agree with you there.

16 Feb 2018 16:31:19
Big time gamble by Pittsburgh with the future of their franchise to do the 3 peat.
Islanders are close to playoffs, so Tavares going shows the fanbase that already has money collected for billboards to get rid of snow that they give up this year.

Good value I think for a rental.
Good trade for Pittsburgh to try for the 3 peat.

15 Feb 2018 19:13:52
A Buffalo writer on SB Nation wrote an article about the Flyers and Sabres rumors are made 3 mock trades which I didn't think were too bad

BUF: Kane, Lehner, 2018 second round pick
PHI: Sanheim, Stolarz, Lehtera, 2018 first round pick, 2018 second

BUF: Kane, Johnson
PHI: Sanheim, Lehtera, 2018 first, 2019 conditional third (didn't mention what the condition was, guessing it has to do with re-signing)

BUF: Lehner
PHI: 2018 second round pick and either Stolarz or Sandstrom

Personally, I wouldn't want to give up Sanheim in part of a deal for Kane unless he's already extended. I'd like if the first turns into a second or Buffalo adds a 2019 second if Kane does not re-sign. Not a huge fan of the third trade because Philly is not competing for a cup right now and I don't think upgrading Elliott (or Neuvirth depending who they'd get rid of) next year with Lehner is worth giving up that package. But overall at least in my eyes it's pretty realistic value wise

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16 Feb 2018 01:40:11
From a Buffalo stand the only reason I would give you Kane and Lehner would be because of Sanheim and a 1st.

16 Feb 2018 02:44:43
All are trash. I think that the whole story is click-bait - at least it'd better be. I don't want cancer Kane anywhere near the Flyers. Lehner is not worth any of our defensive prospects. Lehtera will be buried next season - we have plenty of cap space next year.

15 Feb 2018 19:27:47
ANA: Vermette
WPG: 2nd Round Pick 2018

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15 Feb 2018 19:41:26
I wouldn't give up that much for him if I were the Jets. A 3rd or 4th round pick, maybe, more than that, forget it.

15 Feb 2018 20:38:53
Winnipeg adds pedan.

15 Feb 2018 22:37:47
Pedan lmao.

15 Feb 2018 18:14:54
Oil: Nuge

Canes: Skinner.

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15 Feb 2018 19:28:32
Not even close imho. Nuge is no improvement over Linholm imho.

15 Feb 2018 19:49:02
Imo, no from Carolina because didn't Skinner get 70 points like a year or two ago? he's their most lethal offence, they won't trade him for offence. kinda lateral in that case. theyd trade any one of their dmen before Skinner imo.

15 Feb 2018 20:26:05
Canes add.

15 Feb 2018 21:30:00
My bad, it wasnt 70 points, it was 37 goals and 63 points. Still, that goal total is elite, and I just can't see him being given up.

15 Feb 2018 21:59:56
Canes add lol of course they do right FT4A? Because RNH is worth Karlsson, and Jeff skinner isn’t as good as Erik Karlsson.

15 Feb 2018 22:08:29
Colt65,
RNH is no improvement over Lindholm? Look at the stats and numbers. RNH is an upgrade! Plus, is Lindholm even playing centre at all? RNH is a good two way centre. Now when it come to points:
Lindholm: in 349 games - 176 points (0.5)
Skinner: in 554 games - 365 points (0.66)
RNH: in 441 game - 296 points (0.67)

Now, I do believe the canes need a centreman and RNH can be that #2 after Stall. Skinner would be a great fit on McDavid’s line.

I don’t know if it is the perfect trade, but you can’t say is so off.

15 Feb 2018 22:39:59
Yup Skinner is a great goal scorer, reason I put it up is Nuge actually has better points per game this year and well he’s a centerman and canes for sure need a centerman. And i'd obviously love to get Faulk for Nuge like iv said before that would be unreal. But yeah could be tough for canes to pull trigger on skinner especially.

15 Feb 2018 23:11:45
No Edmonton adds It’s not even close.

16 Feb 2018 16:46:47
Unbiased, madeindade
Sorry, Carolina has to add Because:

1. Hopkins is a center which adds more value.
2. He's way more defensively responsible,

BUT most importantly.

3. Skinner has only 1 year of contract left thus putting him into a short term rental situation. Slightly more than a 2nd round pick is the going rate for a UFA.

Rental players for the franchises most consistent player who's signed for a longer term is a poor trade no matter who it is.
So sorry, As much as you want to believe Edm adds. It's the Canes that are required to add to make this a go.

Perhaps Canes can resign him to make the terms equal out, then the trade would have a little more realistic chance of happening.


As it sits, the trade is a no from Edmonton's stand point.

15 Feb 2018 17:54:01
LA fires the first shot in the California trade war..


Ducks Pacoretti

Habs Nick Ritchie, Sam Steele, 2018 2nd


Sharks Nash

NYR Hertl, 2018 1st, 2018 4th.



And to keep pace in the arms race....

Dallas Hoffman

Ottawa 2018 1st, Faksa, Vala


Florida 2018 3rd 2019 4th

Calgary Vrbada

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15 Feb 2018 19:32:50
Seems like a lot for Nash.

15 Feb 2018 19:55:20
Lol nash ainy getting that return.

15 Feb 2018 20:29:03
Hoff.
Yes it is, but I think there will be a bidding war for his services pushing up the usual price tag for a UFA rental.

15 Feb 2018 20:37:22
No shot Steele is involved in the deal for ANA. He is their future down the middle.

15 Feb 2018 22:43:54
Wouldn’t hold my breath for that kinda return if I was a Habs fan. I personally think they’d be lucky to get steel straight up for Pacioretty IF ducks even had interest in him. Not s chance ducks give both steel and Richie AND a second. not a chance. GM would be unemployed if he made that trade.

15 Feb 2018 23:11:14
Seems like big overpayments for all the guys. I don't think Flames need Vrbata.

 


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