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30 Mar 2018 15:04:26
Edm: Drai , klefbom , 2019 2nd

Ottawa: Karlsson and hoffman

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31 Mar 2018 00:15:13
so basically a 100k per point? missed my calling: (.

01 Apr 2018 19:19:25
How the hell dis this get 7 belihaves there both ufa next drias on a ten your contract and a number 1 center and drais is 21 klefbom is 24 there hoffam and karlson almost 30.

01 Apr 2018 19:20:07
And edm add a second lmao wtf.

30 Mar 2018 01:46:49
Arizona has many top prospects (Strome, Merkeley, Fischer, Dvorak, Domi, Keller) but lacks depth. The Flyers need several more top prospects and have lots of prospect depth that are being blocked by other prospects and veterans in the NHL. Assuming Arizona gets 3rd overall and the Blues and Flyers choose 19th and 20th, I'd propose:

Arizona: 2018 1st (St Louis), 2018 1st (Philadelphia), Danick Martel (52 GP 23 G 14 A 37 P in AHL, RFA 2018), Mike Vecchione (57 GP 15 G 21 A 36 P in AHL, RFA 2019)
Philadelphia: 3rd overall (draft Brady Tkachuk)

Martel and Vecchione deserve a chance in the NHL and will likely be quality bottom 6 NHLers that can support Arizona's top prospect cast.

This addresses both organizations' needs. There are two first round picks so it's not quantity for quality.

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30 Mar 2018 13:58:15
Not enough would rather have Tkachuk.

30 Mar 2018 15:53:39
Wow Arizona gets destroyed.

30 Mar 2018 23:43:05
vbbbvvbb: you and I would rather have Tkachuk but that's not the issue. Arizona needs depth, as evidenced by last year's trade surrendering 35th overall for 44th overall and 2 lower draft picks. I'd say two firsts and 2 players to upgrade their bottom six is more valuable than a high first rounder.

30 Mar 2018 23:49:56
Keyhabs: Arizona does not get destroyed. They get two first rounders, not one. I read a hockey article equating a good, near-NHL ready college free agent is worth approximately a 3rd round pick. Given that, Martel and Vecchione would be worth a 3rd each. Those two firsts and two thirds is reasonable for third overall.

Evidence?

According to Statssportsconsulting, their values are:

3rd overall: 826 points

19th: 364
20th: 350
Mid 3rd round*: 150
Mid 3rd round: 150
Total: 1114 pts

3rds range from 131-175 pts

TSN's valuation is even better for Arizona:

3rd overall: 7.06

19th: 4.44
20th: 4.83
Mid 3rd round*: 2.4
Mid 3rd round: 2.4
Total: 14.07

There are obviously flaws in each model and methodology but Arizona getting destroyed is hyperbole. It's a reasonable trade.

31 Mar 2018 05:31:08
Cmon man they give up an almost guaranteed superstar for probably a top 6 f/ 4 d (StLouis) + a 2d-3rd Line guy for Tkachuk
Don’t even mention the 3rd or Ahl player
No thanks from Arizona and keep your peanuts.

31 Mar 2018 05:32:56
Tkachuk is a 18 year old elite prospect ( better then his brother ) ready to step into a 1st line role in ( Arizona ) . He is a Franchise player in the making IMO. A meaner Corey Perry. As a leafs fan the last thing we need is a winger but I’d be willing to out pay that package.
Tkachuk-Mathews-Nylander Would be a unstoppable Tkachuk gives other players more confidence to do more offensively like going into the corners because they feel safer with him there as an talented enforcer. I’d be happy giving

Tor: 1st 2018,2nd 2019, Connor Brown and Timothy Lindergren

ARI: 3rd overall.

31 Mar 2018 05:33:17
Stop acting like hockey Is Math.
Teams are not stupid.

31 Mar 2018 13:13:47
lool you can easily get depth players for like a 3rd rd pick. Not a 3rd ovr pick . hahahaha.

31 Mar 2018 19:33:37
Thank you Hoff.

31 Mar 2018 20:27:13
Hoff68: the trade is not 3 overall for 2 depth players; you're missing the 2 first round picks.

Your reading and comprehension skills: hahahahaha.

31 Mar 2018 20:30:35
Keyhabs:

"Stop acting like hockey Is Math.
Teams are not stupid. "

If hockey isn't math, then why does almost every single team employ a hockey analytics department?

How do GMs value draft picks? Through tables and analytics (aka math) that I cited. When Hextall moved up to 35 overall last year, Chayka said it was overpayment based on these types of tables.

Forget analytics, I think teams would be wise to do away with that math stuff, fire their analytics teams, and just pay you for your amazing insight.

31 Mar 2018 20:33:39
"Cmon man they give up an almost guaranteed superstar for probably a top 6 f/ 4 d (StLouis) + a 2d-3rd Line guy for Tkachuk"

The same could've been said about Dylan Strome. How's that working out for Arizona? Maybe it'd do them good to not have all of their eggs in one basket and pick up a quality player in the mid to late first round, like some dude named Mat Barzal. Where was he taken? 18th? Yeah, those picks are real peanuts.

There've been so many guaranteed superstars in the top 5 that have busted in the last few years and lots of great picks later in the first round. Quit talking like those two firsts are valueless.

31 Mar 2018 20:37:16
vbbbvvbb:

Tkachuk has lots of potential but he's far from being a superstar. There are lots of great players chosen in the mid to late first round in the last few years (Boeser, Tolvanen, Konecny etc) . The value is there for Arizona. Discounting those two firsts is idiotic.

Funny how you mention Perry; he was chosen 28th overall. Who was chosen 19th and 20th that year? Getzlaf and Brent Burns. 3rd? Nathan Horton.

The fact that you would overpay that much for 3rd overall means you're the Peter Chiarelli of nhl trade rumors.

01 Apr 2018 05:42:05
Peter Chirelli traded Kessel for Seguin and Hamilton.

01 Apr 2018 12:49:12
And a broken clock is right two times a day. And he also gave away Seguin to Dallas. Besides, and how's he doing lately? Like I said, utterly clueless.

01 Apr 2018 13:29:03
He dosent have a history for overpaying for players (besides rienhart) just underselling them.

29 Mar 2018 22:08:34
Oilers: slepyshev and 3rd rounder

Islanders: Ho Sang.

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29 Mar 2018 23:07:18
I’d personally be all over that. I’d think the Oil would need too add but is Ho Sang worth a 2nd +? Slepyshev is actually a decent player and an early 3rd isn’t too bad either.

29 Mar 2018 21:51:07
Habs/ Isles possibility:

Charlie Lindgren and Logan Shaw to the New York Islanders in exchange for Joshua Ho-Sang and the rights to Jarsolav Halak.

- The Islanders could use a young goalie. From what I've seen of Lindgren, he's looked good, but if Price is going to stay (with that contract, probably), there isn't room for him. Plus, Fucale could always show signs of developmental turnaround (maybe? ) . But goal should be the least of the concerns for Montreal, and yet, it is also New Yorks biggest concern.
- New York gives away a guy with high potential, but with an extremely arrogant attitude. I do think that Ho-Sang can be a solid player in the NHL, but I seriously doubt it would be with the Isles. Montreal may be able to turn him around, and considering that there will most likely be an overhaul on the team, Ho-Sang may be able to fit in. Plus, Montreal could desperately use offence, and Ho Sang brings that.

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30 Mar 2018 16:34:33
Montreal I don't think would take Ho-Sang. seems like anyone who has some ice off issues. or whatever, gets shipped out. not always. but hardly ever see them bring one one in.
As for Lindgren, I'm not completely sold on the guy yet, however I would loke to keep him as the back up. everyone on hereknows I'm one of Prices biggest fans. however., even I am getting concerned about his health and his game . So, we need to keep good young goalie prospects.

29 Mar 2018 19:38:01
Carloina Teravainen faulk

Oilers drais

Canucks gaudette tanev 3 rd pick

Philly nolan patrick

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29 Mar 2018 20:16:31
Haha man are you for real with Vancouver trade?

29 Mar 2018 20:28:28
Please just stop.

29 Mar 2018 21:18:49
Isn’t this the first NHL game for Gaudette? Haha.

30 Mar 2018 04:39:55
Drai is on a 35-40 point pace when he doesn’t play with 97. No from Hurricanes.

30 Mar 2018 17:12:30
I actually like the first trade for both teams. Teravainen has improved every year and is only 23. He’d be a nice top 6 in Edmonton and they bring in a top 4 RD in Faulk. Draisaitl is exactly what Carolina needs and they have the depth on defense to handle losing Faulk. Fits both teams needs IMO. What is it you don’t like about the trade McJ?

30 Mar 2018 22:00:17
Borje where did you get that fact from lol lol last he he only play have the season with hin and he got 77 he played even less this season and got 68 in less game and in the playoffs they didn't play one game together and he has 16 points in 13 games.

29 Mar 2018 19:31:25
Buff: o'Rielly

Mtl: Patches, 2rd 2018 ( lowest one of them all)

Ok so buff gets a good veteran winger whos on a cap freindly contract for another year then UFA. i'm sire that Patvhes would find chemestry eith Eichel and could become a 70 point player paired with this high end skilled center. The low second that will be around the 34th pick is to compensate for age difference.

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29 Mar 2018 14:54:16
Buf: O'Reilly

For

Mtl: Pacioretty, first 2018

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29 Mar 2018 15:29:39
not trading our first lolll.

29 Mar 2018 19:53:33
Lol Mtl ain’t trading that 1st and if they are.
MB is getting a bit closer to Chiarelli who is still by far the wurst Gm.

29 Mar 2018 10:39:04
Edm: RnH

Tl: Gallagher

Edm adds a 30 goal scorer this year from Edmonton and also gritty abd plays with heart. Also they save 2.5 million in cap. Good deal all around?

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29 Mar 2018 11:59:56
Good base of a trade. Habs add however since RNH is a two-way C and has proved he can play wing if needed (I know, everyone scores with McDavid, but still. ) . The addition starts with Habs 2nd, maybe more.

29 Mar 2018 15:30:28
yeah ok rnh is playing with mcdavid rn his stats are obviously going to get boosted.

29 Mar 2018 16:22:50
Gallagher has more goals and points and plays a better all around game. Why do I have to sell Gallagher he's great.

29 Mar 2018 16:31:30
If the oilers are willing to trade eberle for stone to clear cap space then they take this and run.

29 Mar 2018 17:34:13
Montreal shouldn’t be the team adding. Nuge is padding some stats in garbage time playing with McDavid. At $6 million, he won't get a return as good as Hall but perhaps better than Eberle. Might as well just keep him if they can afford to.

29 Mar 2018 19:39:33
RNH was having a solid season before playing with McDavid.
RNH- .76 ppg
Gallagher- .63 ppg

Maybe Klefbom would be a better fit but personally I wouldn’t do that either.

29 Mar 2018 20:31:08
Ah the unfortunate return of borje, great. And way to keep being stupid Colt love it.

30 Mar 2018 04:17:23
Sorry mcjesus but your Over valuing players on a lottery team over and over again is just brutal. Look what Hall and Eberle got for a return and be more reasonable.

30 Mar 2018 14:03:48
That Hall Trade makes me cringe that’s just goes to show how bad of a GM he is. But Eberle was more of a dump for a change of scenery and cap. Nuge is expected to stay unless there is an offer that blows them away. I don’t think this blows them away.

29 Mar 2018 10:35:04
Car need a center. Oilers need a really good winger. How about

Edm: Aho

Car: Drai

Would Car consider trading Aho for a good center. Edm can put Aho with McD and he would get 75-90 points a year easy.

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29 Mar 2018 12:00:15
God god terrible for oil.

I wonder why you even post if you're going to b like this man.

29 Mar 2018 12:13:22
It's because he's MontrealsFinest and drunk trolling.

29 Mar 2018 14:23:52
Canes would have to add one of their good young D-men.

29 Mar 2018 20:31:26
Nice colt keep it up lol.

29 Mar 2018 23:10:38
Draisaitl can also play wing ya know. Doesn’t really solve anything for the Oil.

29 Mar 2018 10:32:30
Edm needs a good experience defensmen to bring this team back yo vitory. How bout

Edm: Drai

Tampa: Stralman, Killorn, 3rd 2018

Would Tampa do this? Edm gets their RhD and a good cheap third line center that now makes RnH available to trade. They save money and get what they need. Drai at 8-9 million is crazy when u have Mcdo

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29 Mar 2018 23:12:48
Lol get real.

30 Mar 2018 08:14:29
Would TB do this? Obv
Would the Oilers? No way.

 


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