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20 Jul 2018 22:42:29
Jets : Trouba, Little.
Leafs : Mathews, 2019 1st.

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20 Jul 2018 23:06:13
I’d like to keep that 1st. Could we swap the late 1st out for liljegren and marner?!

20 Jul 2018 23:18:21
I doubt Toronto is going to trade the best player in the history of hockey for a terrible defenseman and an old, overrated center.

20 Jul 2018 23:26:49
Not enough from Toronto. Little easily replaces Matthews as #1/ 2 center and a late 1st does not get you Trouba. Try again.

21 Jul 2018 00:38:01
Little old? No overrated yes he’s essentially Tyler Bozak. Trouba is a good 3rd dman was a strong dcore.

21 Jul 2018 03:17:20
Can Matthews play center well? He’d probably be battling Roslovic for second line centre.

And wheres the replacement dman for Trouba? Winnipeg can’t lose a star defensive defesemand not get a dman back. Add Rielly and then it becomes closer. look LIttle matches Matthews but a 1st is way worse than Trouba.

21 Jul 2018 12:50:44
I have looked up and down the postings for this trade and can't find who you meant as the "best player in the history of hockey"

21 Jul 2018 15:37:35
Your sarcasm and hate for the leafs balsam was coming off a sarcastic remark to begin with from a bias jets fan. Take a look through the archives on all of your comments on leafs proposals. It’s quite comical the garbage that comes from your mouth.

21 Jul 2018 17:25:36
The Jets and Leafs would not be good training partners as any right shot d-men the Jets would trade Winnipeg would want a d-man in return. It is common knowledge that the Leafs are pathetically weak at D and have nobody, other than Rielly that would be able to make the Jets NHL roster. As for this trade proposal there is no way Matthews gets traded unless the Leafs run into cap problems in the future.

21 Jul 2018 19:44:05
Lmao guess 50point Jake Gardiner or Zaitsev (excluding contract) or Dermott isn't as good as Joe f’n Morrow @islandjet. Good to know tho. Have fun playing and paying Dmitry Kulikov tho.

22 Jul 2018 06:14:04
And islandjet shows he’s just memarcusjoes puppet haha the fact that he thinks Matthews would be the one traded for cap reasons shows how dumb he actually is lol

It’s like saying if oilers can’t find someone to take lucic for cap relief, they will start shopping mcdavid lol these 2 are making Winnipeg look like the most clueless fans in hockey.

28 Jul 2018 18:42:15
Unbiased Jim you are always name calling which shows how weak your arguments are. You are not unbiased but a shill for the defensive-less Leafs. The likely hood of the Jets trading with the Leafs are remote at best.

30 Jul 2018 17:38:54
Thanks leafs17. But really. you think matthews is the best player in the history of hockey?


And I am the comical one. Lol.

20 Jul 2018 20:40:10
Winnipeg: Trouba
Edmonton: Draisaitl

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20 Jul 2018 21:04:08
I doubt Edmonton would do it and the Jets can't afford Draisaitl's contract. But value wise as long as Draisaitl can actually start carrying a line as a 2C, it is pretty good. 2C for a top pairing RHD.

20 Jul 2018 21:46:52
Memarcuswindowlicker approves.

20 Jul 2018 22:03:27
Oh boy. much rather Draisatl to Trouba.

20 Jul 2018 22:09:44
Lmao no from oilers come on joe.

20 Jul 2018 22:12:59
Edmonton needs Drat way more than they need Trouba. Also value wise it isn’t there. Imo. Especially Trouba thinking he’s a top 10 dman in the league. Not a chance.

20 Jul 2018 23:02:47
Sorry guys, I was just trying to make a point of how ridiculous all the Trouba trades were getting. I really didn’t think biasjoe would think this is fair.

20 Jul 2018 23:29:18
@McJesus,
I prefer you keep Draisaitl as well. The longer the Oilers have that much tied up in bad contracts up front and keep rolling out an ECHL quality defense, the longer they stay anchored to dead last in the West.

20 Jul 2018 23:47:12
Ya crap, back to back 70 point - 22 year old, big solid strong centers are so terrible to have. Sucks.

21 Jul 2018 03:18:53
Have fun resigning your core Marcus, especially when Trouba who ain't even the number one dman on your team wants 7 million and has temper tantrums because he's playing behind Buff.

21 Jul 2018 06:20:45
HAhahaha wtf sick chirp.

21 Jul 2018 09:12:37
ECHL quality defence? Larsson is just as good as Trouba. Klefbom and nurse are just as good as and if not better then Myers. Not do mention they grabbed Bouchard who has top 2 potential and have Bear in the pipe line. I’m pretty sure Klefbom would score 3 goals per period in the ECHL.

21 Jul 2018 11:26:53
Wow vbb. 👏👏👏. Salute - No sarcasm there.

21 Jul 2018 17:26:46
Vbb you just mentioned how to defence on Edmonton who are as good as Myers. The jets bottom pairing defence.

21 Jul 2018 17:31:42
This trade would only happen if the Oilers retained $2 mil per year of Draisaitls contract.

21 Jul 2018 19:44:36
@IJ your so biased, its not even funny, lol.

Your idea of a realistic trade is probably Nico Hischier for Trouba. Lol.

21 Jul 2018 23:25:54
Myers/ Moreissy is their 3rd best dman.

22 Jul 2018 00:09:06
Not even close vb. Myers is fourth at most probably fifth when kulikov is actually health. Myers has issues in his end.

22 Jul 2018 06:17:31
Haha alpaca. 2 weeks ago jets fans were saying Myers would be top pair on half the teams in the league. Now vbb names guys better and just to discredit that you say Myers is terrible lol. New level of little man syndrome. Most clueless fans.

22 Jul 2018 15:14:43
You'll notice none of those were me.

22 Jul 2018 15:59:08
You’re saying Kulikov is better than Myers lol and that no oilers Dman is as good as either of them. That makes you, islandjet and MarcusJoe all one. If you did a one to one comparison of why you would rather Myers over klefbom, I can respect that. Just coming out and saying no one on Edmonton is as good as Kulikov who was being scratched in buffalo after being traded from Florida for very little is clearly just trash. Klefbom and Larson are clearly better than Kulikov. And better than Myers.

23 Jul 2018 06:32:50
Never commented on edmontons defence. I simply pointed out that he compared them to Myers. Your reading an awful lot into my comments. And yes a healthy kulikov is as good or better than Myers.

20 Jul 2018 20:39:28
Winnipeg: Trouba
Toronto: Matthews

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20 Jul 2018 21:06:06
Yes, let's see you talk Leaf fans into this. A generational player, 10 or 20 times better than McDavid for a crappy D man?

20 Jul 2018 21:38:19
ok this is obviously a bad trade but . Mathews 20x better than Mcdavid? that's a joke, Mcdavid is the best hockey player in the world . Mathews is Maybe Top 10.

20 Jul 2018 21:38:59
How about what a jets fan thinks biasjoe? Is Matthews good enough to carry a 2nd line? Is that enough to offer for a top 10 d man in the league?

20 Jul 2018 22:04:55
Who said Trouba was crappy and who said Matthews is so much better than McDavid? Marcus get your head checked please.

20 Jul 2018 22:41:38
No from jets Trouba is a god. He deserves 10 million because he’s a true #1rhd. It’s McDavid or bust- Jets fans.

20 Jul 2018 23:32:16
I for one have never heard anyone say that Trouba was crappy and I don’t even think that vbb’s would say Matthews is better than McDavid. Biasjoe has had a rough couple days to say the least.

21 Jul 2018 03:19:51
Trouba>EKs wheels + Kanes hands + Charas height + McDavids hockey IQ.

21 Jul 2018 05:55:17
I don't understand why everyone overvalues leafs players? I obviously don’t think he’s as good as McDavid he’s on the Eichel level imo. Maybe abit better ( 40 goals vs what ever Eichel got but yah ) .

21 Jul 2018 18:04:37
I never thought I would agree with vbbbvvbb. Matthews has shown in the playoffs that he is not a generational talent but a good player.

20 Jul 2018 20:38:56
Winnipeg: Trouba
Ottawa: Karlsson

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20 Jul 2018 20:58:24
Ottawa adds. Karlsson is inconsistent and injury prone, whereas trouba is a star in the making, leading the jets to the conference finals.

20 Jul 2018 21:08:30
Nope. Jets can't afford to pay Karlsson what he wants with the players they have coming up for renewal.

Plus, as Montreal taught us, you don't trade a really good young defenseman for a really good old one.

20 Jul 2018 22:45:17
Crazyattack- I agree. Soccer has Renoldo, Basketball had Jordan, Baseball had Babe Ruth and the NHL has Trouba.

20 Jul 2018 23:08:29
Vbb that might be your best response ever lol.

21 Jul 2018 04:05:24
@vbbbvvbb finally the first time I agree with you, except its spelled Ronaldo

21 Jul 2018 05:56:18
Sorry man I don’t follow anysport besides hockey lol.

21 Jul 2018 16:15:55
And marcusjoe, you could also say that trade would never happen because Karlsson would never move to Winnipeg. Like Trouba has tried to leave and will again, his rights are owned there and didn’t want to be there. Why would a guy who could go to 31 cities be there. Couldn’t convince Paul Statsny to leave $750k on the table to live there for a chance to win, not getting a Karlsson anyway.

21 Jul 2018 17:34:41
No chance as the Jets won't be able to sign Karlsson for what he wants, unless the Jets trade him for what they would want.

21 Jul 2018 17:50:35
This is laughable easy Ottawa says no and walking away.

20 Jul 2018 19:57:34
Canucks trade: tanev, grandlund, 3rd round pick 2019

Maple leafs trade: Liljegren, Horton, 1st round pick 2019


What do you guys think?

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20 Jul 2018 20:15:25
Horton doesn’t affect us at all so not paying to eliminate a problem that doesn’t exist.

Tanev would be a decent pick up but not at the expense of liljegren and a 1st lol

3rd rounder does not close the gap.

20 Jul 2018 19:16:22
Devils: 2019 3rd round pick, LW John Quenneville

Red Wings: RW Johann Franzen, RW Gustav Nyquist

Wings still need to bring back Dylan Larkin and add 3 more roster players with only 7m in cap when Franzen goes on LTIR. Devils provide some wiggle room and send over a prospect

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20 Jul 2018 17:52:37
WPG: Trouba
TOR: Nylander

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20 Jul 2018 18:23:13
Are you done yet?

20 Jul 2018 19:46:05
Value wise this is not awful I would make this trade.

20 Jul 2018 20:14:56
Value wise it is close but the Jets would want a good d-man back or a bundle of prospects/ draft choices as they don't need another forward as their top two lines are set.

20 Jul 2018 20:17:53
I would be interested. But would have to know that trouba is committed to the leafs and signed reasonable. Not worth trading Nylander for a guy that we have to fight with every year or 2 over money. Or a guy that’s not going to show up to camp because he would rather be in the States.

20 Jul 2018 20:34:25
Only if the Jets scouts were absolutely convinced Nylander could play center. If Nylander is only a winger, then no.

20 Jul 2018 20:48:17
Probably a no from Toronto. if they pay him what he is asking i would be hesitant - if he was around the 5.5M/ season for 6 years i would be happy. But not at the $7M he is asking.

20 Jul 2018 22:45:59
Well he's asking high because the team is offering low. Hopefully to meet a lot closer to his number than their number. $5.5M is right in the middle. I can see them settling above $5.5M tho. Maybe like $6.25M or something?
But ya, you ask high, settle little Lower. We all know this.

20 Jul 2018 23:10:41
If Trouba came with a 6x6 deal I’d be in.

21 Jul 2018 05:26:14
I would think holl and brown with a 3rd would get this trade done for trouba.

21 Jul 2018 08:14:38
If someone says no to this its def WPG.

20 Jul 2018 14:34:05
Rumor has it Seguin wants to go to a Canadian team. how bout.

Ott : Karlsson, Ryan, Anderson

Dallas : Seguin, spezza, bishop

Ottawa unloads Ryan for a bigger contract worst player with less term in spezza while picking up a goalie to replace andy.

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20 Jul 2018 15:35:53
Don’t see how this makes Dallas any better. Karlson would up grade there d no question but then there offence takes a huge hit losing seguin for Ryan and goaltending they get worse to.

20 Jul 2018 15:39:13
This is better for Ottawa when it comes to filling needs. All Dallas would have at forward would be Benn and Radulov really.

20 Jul 2018 15:51:37
Are you sure he didn’t say any Canadian team other than Ottawa?

20 Jul 2018 15:55:52
Lol. Dallas laughs.

20 Jul 2018 16:09:56
I guess Hanzel would be the 1c 🤔 Spezza is Franchise corner piece compared to Ryan. Anybody sain would want spezza.

20 Jul 2018 16:11:20
They would take a hit offensively but it wouldn't be a huge one really.

Ryan puts up 0.53 + points per game with the exception of 2 seasons ago where he was having major health issues, his 3rd lowest points per game total was the 2013 / 2014 season where he put up 0.69 points per game.

Seguin puts up 0.88 + points per game

At the same time though.

Karlsson as a defenseman puts up 0.80 + points per game.

And jason spezza gets 0.74 points per game usually with the exception of this past year where he got 0.33 points per game a career low to be sure.

Goaltending I wouldn't say they get worst. older yes. but not worst. bishop been sortve shakey the last 2 years while Andy had 1 bad year after all that drama going on. plus Andy ìs a better playoff goalie for sure.

20 Jul 2018 17:44:18
Vbbvbb Ryan plays top 6 and still puts up respectable numbers. spezza plays 4th line and puts I
Up peanuts now. Ryan also plays at both ends while spezza is never back checking I've seen the guy play lots bu far Ryan is an upgrade on spezza there's no question on that. I wander if you even think before you type stuff like that?

Also know that benn was a center before Seguin was even in dallas, he centered eriksons line so no hanzal wouldn't be number 1 and Ryan is STILL a top 6 forward.

20 Jul 2018 18:02:08
Ho is this better for Ottawa in terms of needs? Lol

Skill for skill = number 1 center for bonafide number one defence

Bad contract swap = top 6 winger for bottom 3 center

Goalie swap = regular season performer 1/ 2 the time for playoff performer

Only thing Ottawa gets out of it is a bid contract with shorter duration. the rest look almost dead even.

20 Jul 2018 18:02:59
Ryan is top 6 on a nediocre to bad team, not a good team.

20 Jul 2018 19:09:05
Ryan.

20 Jul 2018 20:35:04
List of problems with this:

Seguin for Karlsson both with a year left is close. Edge goes to Karlsson but not by a ton as seguin is younger and will be able to be signed a bit cheaper. But bishop for Anderson is laughable.

Spezza has a bigger contract?! Yeah by 250k for 1 yr vs 4 yrs of Ryan lol hell no.

And Ryan puts up respectable #s and spezza is 4th line putting up peanuts?!

Over the last 3 seasons Ryan has played 205 games with 119 pts (.58 pts per game) . Spezza played 221 games with 139pts (.63pts per game)

And you say spezza only plays 4th line, so he out produces Bobby Ryan on the 4th line and you want stars to eat 3 extra years at 7.25 mill?!

And lastly spezza has a NMC. He already ran from that sh*thole once. You think he’s waiving to go back?! Lol.

20 Jul 2018 21:00:20
Personally IDK how you can call Ryan and Spezza = in terms of value

Spezza last 3 seasons
2015-2016 GP:75 G:33 P:63
2016-2017 GP:68 G:15 P:50
2017-2018 GP:78 G:8 P:26
Cap hit 7.5M Length 1Yr

Ryan last 3 seasons
2015-2016 GP:81 G:22 P:56
2016-2017 GP:62 G:13 P:25
2017-2018 GP:62 G:11 P:33
Cap hit 7.25M Length 4Yr


Ryan has produced less in 2 of the last 3 years then Spezza only 0.25M less but for an extended 3 years past Spezza.

Rambo you can't honestly think Ryan is a top 6 forward can you? Think for a second if a person was suggesting a player to be traded to Ottawa that had similar point totals and contract would you be happy and say we got a proven top 6 winger from this trade?

20 Jul 2018 21:09:32
Rambo how do you think of this trade

David Backes for Bobby Ryan.

I'm only looking for your opinion to see how you value players.

20 Jul 2018 21:51:29
Rambo proposals and facts don't mix.

20 Jul 2018 22:47:58
So if Ryan is that much better that Spezza why would you want to make the trade. It's hilarious how people can put up completely biased trades then try to justify it by saying their teams player is amazing and the other teams player coming back is crap. If their crap then why trade for them.

20 Jul 2018 23:18:54
Still waiting to see a response to how .58 pts per game is “respectable 2nd line numbers” and .63 pts per game is “peanuts for a 4th liner” lol

Rambo never let's a fact get in the way of a good story though.

21 Jul 2018 00:58:37
Just letting everyone know I meant every sain person would take Spezza over Ryan.

21 Jul 2018 18:11:44
Why make that trade yupp? Easy the 1 year left on spezza is why. if we can't flip him before his contract expires we can afford to let him walk for nothing and not miss him that's why.

I'm not arguing spezza production when playing big minutes ctc I'm saying Ryan's number are nearly as good with a huge difference being that for every goal spezza is a part of offensively he is responsible for 4 more against his team. giveaway with no backchecking hurt your team no matter how many you score. Ryan is far more responsible in that regard which is why he still plays top 6 while spezza was recently demoted to 4th line si yeah 100% coming from someone who's seen both guys play I'd take Ryan any given day of my life but it's a business and trying to dump a 1 year bad contract is better than trying to dump a 3 year bad contract.

Speaking of bad contracts jim you might want to look back at your poor research. spezza makes 8 million on a cap hit this I know for a fact as it was Ottawa that signed him and heatley to those deals.

N donscherry Ottawa is not a mediocre to bad team they just had a bad year due to a lot of different factors that I am done repeating to children. at worst they are an average to above average team that much is common sense.

22 Jul 2018 03:35:21
You're confusing common sense with delusional fantasies again bud.

08 Aug 2018 16:53:14
The Sens will say no to any deal including Spazza, do your homework. spazza demanded a trade from Ottawa.

20 Jul 2018 12:47:51
Flames -
• (RW) Troy Brouwer
• (2019) 2nd-Round Pick
• Rights to (D) Brett Kulak
Coyotes -
• (2019) 4th-Round Pick

Calgary relieves cap and Arizona gets a 2nd round pick, a decent top 6/7 defencemen and a veteran RW.

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19 Jul 2018 05:40:41
Canucks joulevi sutter gagner

Islander ladd dobson

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19 Jul 2018 20:02:07
Canucks say no by a lot.

19 Jul 2018 23:47:36
I dunno by that dobson look better then joulevi canuck need a rhd but ladds on one of the worse contract in the nhl and sutter get just as many point as ladd last couple years and gagner this just makes more room for there young players and gets them the future top 4 rhd.

21 Jul 2018 13:51:16
Hmmm, must be the drugs talking.

 


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