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27 Nov 2018 23:15:04
Maple Leafs - Rangers

Maple Leafs offer Nazem Kadri, Jake Gardiner, Jeremy Bracco and a 1st Rd pick in 2019 to the Rangers for Brady Skjei and Chris Kreider

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27 Nov 2018 19:32:50
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Oil: Talbot

Philly: One of Pickard, Lyon or Elliot + draft pick or prospect.

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My proposal is Talbot for Pickard + Mike Vecchione

Apparently oilers have been listening to offers on Talbot, and I believe they are prepared to part ways if a deal can be made.

Oilers get a younger backup goalie who I think can be good one day and a player who I think would benefit Edmonton. Vecchione I think can be expendable for philly but he did sign her after his college career ended. So might be tough to send him away.

Flyers get an upgrade in net, and could ultimately be a short term or long term piece depending on if Talbot can improve his game.

Anyways just a thought. Depends on how flyers view Talbot imo.

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27 Nov 2018 20:32:34
Hard to pick agoslie out of philly because they have all been awful this season. I think that Lyon kid has some potential still. Pickards having a tough go, but could turn it around.

27 Nov 2018 20:35:21
You read this on beer league heroes definitely not a credible source .

28 Nov 2018 04:57:59
I doesn’t matter where it came from I gave my own proposal lol.

28 Nov 2018 14:55:38
How good of a fit would Simmonds be with McDavid Nuge or Drai. I've always wanted him. Maybe if Philly thinks they won't resign him we can try and get him as well? Do we have to add a 1st to Talbot for Pickard, Simmonds, Vecchione? Try to resin Simmonds off season. Philly also resigns Talbot. Or can Oilers swap out a prospect and a 2nd or 3rd? Depending on what prospect maybe there's one philly would like, we have a lot of prospects playing well right now actually.
Anyways, Maybe Talbot could be good in Philly for 2-3 years until Hart is ready. Then Talbot plays veteran backup for a few years to Hart in 2:3 years. Could be alright.

28 Nov 2018 14:56:48
Oilers free up $5.5M in Talbot. Resign Koskinen for next year. I've always liked Pickard, Hitchinson, Jalak as backups myself. Talbot might need a change in scenery, not sure what is wrong with him this season. Sucks.

27 Nov 2018 16:29:16
LAKings Trade
Kovalchuk

Toronto Trades
Ennis
Horton(LTIR)
1st Round Pick 2019

Kings retain 50% of Kovalchuk's 3yr contract.

Kings and Kovalchuk just hasn't worked and Kovalchuk came back to the NHL to win the Cup, not happening in Los Angeles.
The Leafs I know would rather improve on Defence but getting that Top 2 Defenceman is much harder than a Trade like I have proposed, does Kovalchuk over Ennis make the Leafs a better Team ? Yes it does so you make this move, yes there is the $3,125.00 added in Cap over this Season and the next 2yrs but there is also Younger Players coming in each year and the Cap goes up each year.

Thoughts ?

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27 Nov 2018 17:14:44
Not so sure Kovalchuk came back just to win a cup or he would have taken less money to play on a real competitor. LA hasn’t done much in last 4 years. Missed playoffs twice and early exits the other two times.

Kovalchuk is on pace for 18 goals and 50 points. So $3.125 is pretty reasonable. Still not sure Leafs should be willing to give him a chance though.

27 Nov 2018 17:36:59
The team chemistry wise is doing really well. Unless it’s to address a position of need, why disrupt it? Scoring will not be this teams problem with the star power they have and now in the last cpl weeks, the secondary scoring has come around with Marleau getting back on the board, Johnsson putting the puck in the net and skating like he did last year, Leivo scoring in back to back games. Stay away from these moves. Bottom 6 grit, top 4 Dman or leave it alone.

27 Nov 2018 19:04:10
With that logic you don't want Mathews or Nylander back in the lineup? With Johansen and Leivo doing so well those two will be affected in the bottom sox, no? Won't bump a few guys down, and out of the lineup? 🤔🤔.
Guess we wait and see soon hey. Better just leave it alone.

27 Nov 2018 19:56:14
They’re already part of the team. I think there’s a difference between inserting an injured star player back into the lineup and trading for a 36 year old guy who has fled on teams when he’s not happy before. Would you not agree with that?!

27 Nov 2018 20:01:10
We don’t want Nylander back. Lol. And seeing how great the team is doing without Matthews makes you wonder, what if Damien Cox might be right?

What kind of return do you think we could get for Matthews Yupp? Just curious if you think a deal could be made that’s gives us 1RHD plus and handful of quality prospects/ picks?

27 Nov 2018 20:15:08
New LAK coach giving Kovie fourth line minutes I read. Wonder what's going on. He's team point leader I think?
Either way. Toronto should stay far far away from contracts and guys like him and Saad. Sign Mathews Marner Nylander and as Jim says maybe bottom six grit. Last thing leafs need is a Kovalchuck or Saad type.

27 Nov 2018 20:19:01
Think outside the box Pinball buddy. Look for some random deals for some cheap grit that might fit it maybe a top 4 D man that might be available from thier team, Stay realistic and within the cap tho.

27 Nov 2018 20:23:50
There was a concern that we weren’t getting secondary scoring behind Matthews, Tavares and Marner from the forwards. So bringing in another scorer could have been an option. Since the bottom 6 has been scoring recently and Matthews and Nylander will be back soon, as early as tomorrow for Matthews and this weekend for Nylander, there’s zero need to give assets for a guy like Kovalchuk who is very polarizing. Simple enough for you?!

27 Nov 2018 21:05:21
Unbiased Jim, in getting Kovalchuk you are adding to Team Chemistry not disrupting it, Ennis is the only Roster Player going in this Trade Proposal, if you are anyone else thinks adding Kovalchuk won't help think again, adding a Top 4 Defenceman won't be easy or cheap, getting any bottom 6 grit can be done at the deadline, to me adding a Kovalchuk puts the Leafs at an elite level to the rest of the NHL, Caps have Ovechkin getting Kovalchuk gives the Leafs there Ovechkin.

27 Nov 2018 21:44:51
You know, Kovalchuk numbers would probably improve if he was on the Leafs. He’s a LW, which I feel is our weaker side. He’s actually doing better than I thought he would. His stats are virtually identical with Marleau, who is the comparable they used in contract negotiation. LA retains salary, so we get him cheap. There’s a lot of things going for this move.

One issue for me is that he is a multi-year comittment, not UFA. We are already going to be having cap issues so severe that we can’t come to terms with our 1RW, and everyone is already saying we need to trade marleau if possible. He’s also not very respectable defensively. Not that would matter on Leafs I guess.

In LA, Kovalchuk is top two forwards. On Leafs he is what, sixth or seventh best? He would be taking a much lesser role here, probably playing 3rd line behind Marleau and Hyman. I’m not sure if a guy who wants to be “The Man” would be willing to do that.

That’s just my two cents worth.

27 Nov 2018 22:08:46
Kovalchuk wasn’t in ovechkins class when he was 27. He’s definitely not at 36, 5 years removed from the best league in the world.

27 Nov 2018 21:20:55
I'm not sure GM, but there would be plenty offers of all sorts. You would er a good top luring D man and other pieces. Weather its roster player, picks, close to be prospects, you would have all sorts of packages to pick from if you put Mathews on the block.
I actually would sign Nylander and just see how good the offers for Mathews would be.

Could help the team in other areas and the cap. I agree with Cox when he simply says it's not crazy to just think about reading Mathews. He never said to trade Mathews. He just said with the play of Tavares it's not a crazy thought to think about trading Mathews. And he's right. It's not a crazy thought anymore. I still don't think the Leafs will trade him tho.

27 Nov 2018 23:34:17
I can’t see them trading Matthews either. Especially if he comes back and finishes as strong as he started. But it’s Dubes job to ice the best possible team at all times, and is the team better with, say, Dumba, Neidereitter, Greenway, 1st? You can adjust to what you think is fair. If we can get a couple guys that immediately contribute in a significant way and some futures, is the whole team overall not improved and the future secured a little firmer as well?

It’s just not beyond the realm of plausibility is all. The team’s performance at this critical junction without 2/ 3 of the top line really weakens both these guys positions.

27 Nov 2018 16:27:10
Carolina Trades
Ferland
Pesce

Toronto Trades
Ennis
Hainsey
Bracco(AHL)
2nd Round Pick 2020

Thoughts ?

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27 Nov 2018 17:38:52
Come on lol not a chance canes even return that call.

27 Nov 2018 10:51:28
Calgary Flames:
• (C) Mark Jankowski (1,675,000 x 2YR)
• (C) Dillon Dubé (778,333 x 3YR)
• (G) Tyler Parsons (759,167 x 2YR)
• (2019) First Round Pick
St Louis Blues:
• (RW) Vladimir Tarasenko (7,500,000 x 5YR)

Calgary Flames:
• (LHD) TJ Brodie (4,650,400 x 2YR)
• (2019) Second Round Pick
Toronto Maple Leafs:
• (C) William Nylander (unsigned gaudreau comparable contract)

Calgary Flames:
• (RW) Michael Frolík (4,300,000 x 2YR)
Arizona Coyotes:
• (2019) Fourth Round Pick

Calgary Flames:
• (RHD) Michael Stone (3,500,000 x 2YR)
Ottawa Senators:
• (2019) Third Round Pick


Calgary Flames Projected Lines:

Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - Vladimir Tarasenko
Matthew Tkachuk - William Nylander - Elias Lindholm
Sam Bennett - Mikael Backlund - James Neal
Austin Czarnik - Derek Ryan - Garnet Hathaway

Mark Giordano - Travis Hamonic
Noah Hanifin - Rasmus Andersson
Juuso Välimäki - Oliver Kylington

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27 Nov 2018 15:21:08
So 3 sheet pieces of poo and a 1st for tarasenko.

That's a solid no try your first and ktchuck+.

27 Nov 2018 17:08:41
An aging LHD with only two years left on his contract for eight years of Nylander? Not sure if I’m seeing the value there.

27 Nov 2018 20:00:36
Gardiner>>Brodie.

27 Nov 2018 21:04:00
Takchuk alone would be too much for Tarasenko based on age and the fact that Tarasenko is a little overpaid for a 60 point player.

28 Nov 2018 01:08:24
40 goal scorer. Lol your a joke.

28 Nov 2018 12:42:23
Why would nylander sign for a couple mil less in Calgary then he's asking from Toronto? Holy snikies some people over rate what nylander will get in return on this site.

26 Nov 2018 23:14:53
Calgary Flames:
• (LHD) TJ Brodie (4,650,400 x 2YR)
• (C) Mark Jankowski (1,675,000 x 2YR)
• (2019) Seventh Round Pick
Toronto Maple Leafs:
• (C) William Nylander (unsigned gaudreau comparable contract)

Arizona Coyotes:
• (RHD) Jason Demers (3,937,000 x 3YR)
Toronto Maple Leafs:
• (LW) Josh Leivo (925,000 x 1YR)
• (2019) Second Round Pick

Edmonton Oilers:
• (RW) Jesse Puljujärvi (925,000 x 1YR)
• (2019) Second Round Pick
Toronto Maple Leafs:
• (LHD) Jake Gardiner (4,050,000 x 1YR)


Projected Lines -

Zach Hyman - John Tavares - Mitch Marner
Patrick Marleau - Auston Matthews - Kasperi Kapanen
Andreas Johnsson - Nazem Kadri - Jesse Puljujärvi
Tyler Ennis - Mark Jankowski - Connor Brown

Morgan Rielly - Jason Demers
TJ Brodie - Ron Hainsey
Travis Dermott - Martin Marincin

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27 Nov 2018 04:59:12
Pool and a 2nd for gradiner ufa 😂😂.

27 Nov 2018 10:08:53
1) that package wouldn't get you puljujarvi
2) you have brodie on 2nd line and demers with reilly?
3) i'd think that package toronto would want at very least a 3rd in that nylander deal not a 7th.

27 Nov 2018 10:56:48
Demers is done for the season. Maybe even his career. Lol. That one is a for sure no way.

Gardiner is worth more than a bust + 2nd. Can Edmonton even afford this trade?

The Calgary trade has the most chops to it, though I personally feel Leafs Gould be targeting younger players rather than 28 year old Brodie with only 2 years left on his contract before UFA. Valimaki or Andersson maybe?

27 Nov 2018 10:57:28
Demers done for the season. Knee blown. May not be back for a long while.

Gardiner is worth more than a bust + 2nd (hard to believe sometimes, I know)

Brodie is 28 and 2 years until UFA. Leafs need someone younger with contract similar in terms to Nylander. Valimaki or Andersson maybe?

27 Nov 2018 12:31:32
Would not trade Gardiner for a huge question mark and a pick could really use him come playoff time.

27 Nov 2018 13:29:14
Question mark is fair but bust is so not true. I’d say he’s just not being developed properly, big surprise there. He’s 20 and probably should’ve been in the AHL for most if not all of his career up to this point. His first stint in the AHL points wise wasn’t the greatest but he was on a bad team and people said he was creating a lot. His last one was only 4 games yes but he had 4 points. Let him be a point a game in the AHL and see what he is next season before calling him a bust, would be my suggestion.

27 Nov 2018 15:31:27
@ebs. Completely agree. He’s such a big guy with skill, he’s just not an NHL player yet and that’s okay. But he’s being mismanaged. As leaf fans we had little to cheer for and wanted Nylander on the big club and management said he wouldn’t come up until he has a chance to dominate in the AHL. He did and was better for it. Should be a similar approach with puli.

27 Nov 2018 15:59:09
With North American kids like marner etc leafs option was to have him in the leafs or send him back to junior again, that didn’t make sense. With these European guys, you’re given such an advantage to be allowed to have them in the AHL at 18 and 19. Why not use that? They’re learning a new game, a new rink size, a new culture, often times a new language. Use every tool you have to allow them to succeed and slower hockey and a bit weaker competition is one of them to start.

27 Nov 2018 18:35:37
Agreed Jim, it seems so obvious. Why play him 5-10 minutes a night on the 3rd or 4th line when he can go succeed in the A?

27 Nov 2018 20:04:15
Oilers are very good at screwing up developing their drafts. It’s just not possible to draft so many busts like that. They rushed virtually every one of their top picks the last ten years, and look how many succeeded. Not nearly as many should have. And the ones that did actually do anything in NHL have underperformed. I don’t think it’s coincidence that Hall had his breakout year after finally being traded.

27 Nov 2018 20:11:30
Yeah. He could be first line, be the first shot option on the PP, learn to play both sides of the puck and gain a ton of confidence. Then drop him on Mcdavids line late this season or to start next year.

27 Nov 2018 21:31:29
@LeafsGM, Bouchard- sent back to juniors.
Yamamoto- finished junior and now in the AHL.
Puljujarvi- made mistakes in his development IMO but not too late.
McDavid- not underperforming.

Draisaitl- went back to junior and now he’s doing just fine. Nurse- finished his junior and maybe slightly underperforming but he’s also a D and it’s expected. Yakupov- totally blew it and even though he has zero IQ he could’ve had a good career riding shotgun with McDavid IMO.

RNH- not the high point getting 1st overall but a good player. He was too good to go back to junior.
Hall- had an 80 point season in Edmonton and was also to good for junior. How many 1st overalls go back to junior?

27 Nov 2018 22:38:01
Calling puli a bust is funny though. He’s a 4th overall from 2016. Some of the same guys I’ve seen call him a bust on this site were also commenting that Chicago did well getting strome. He was a higher pick a year earlier than puli. Saying he’s not where you thought he would be, fair. Saying bust is laughable for a 20 year old kid.

27 Nov 2018 23:04:08
Call it what you want to call it. He’s not living up to the expectation that warranted such a high draft selection, playing with some of the world’s best players. He might still come along, but at this point he’s looking more like a Crouse and either Strome than a Marner or Nylander. The same guys saying Puljujärvi isn’t a bust are the same guys who say Crouse is. Imo they are all looking like a bust to me and would not bring anywhere close to a 1st in return. How much would you be willing to give up for any of those guys?

@yupp

Klefbom sucks. Nurse will never be more than 2LHD similar to Zadorov. Yakopov was a spectacular bust. Paajarvi sucks. Gagner sucks. Petry doing ok now but sucked for a long time. Puljujärvi sucks and looking like he’s a bust. Yamamoto is so small I have a hard time seeing him doing much at NHL level. Bouchard is way too early to say.

28 Nov 2018 00:58:21
Yupp isn’t on this. I think you mean ebs.

28 Nov 2018 05:11:51
Oops. Sorry Yupp. Lol.

26 Nov 2018 21:52:03
Kings Trade
Kovalchuk

Leafs Trade
Hyman
1st Round Pick 2019

Kings retain 12mil of the 3yrs left on Kovalchuks Contract which is 4mil for 3yrs.

Thoughts ?

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26 Nov 2018 22:22:35
This is a train wreck.

26 Nov 2018 22:43:18
Can you not comprehend that there is a salary cap? Stop trying tp trade for older, high cap players. COme on.

26 Nov 2018 22:50:40
Don’t want kovalchuk, he would be 4th or 5th maybe 6th down the depth chart of who to go to for offense as where hyman is one of the few players we have that will do dirty work for the skilled players, hometown guy on a good contract who is a favourite of Babcock and a great penalty killer. He would be a bigger part of a playoff run for us than kovy. LA would not retain that kind of money on Kovy Even if they could and they can’t. You’re only allowed to retain a maximum of 50% which would be $3.125mill per year or $9.375 mill total.

26 Nov 2018 23:18:14
Why would Toronto do this? They already have one of the best offences in the league. They are better off trading assets/ spending money on a defenceman.

27 Nov 2018 00:00:38
Wow that’s horrible for the kings lmao.

27 Nov 2018 01:37:33
No Way!

27 Nov 2018 01:44:50
Why you want to get rid of one the gritty players you have. he's actually a guy that helps ya win cups . Kovalchuck. his time is done.

27 Nov 2018 01:56:08
you do realize that you can only retain 50% of a contract, so 3.125.

27 Nov 2018 02:17:26
Pinball. You’re trades are hilarious. Always trying to get a rise out of Leaf fans. Why? I mean, why not suggest bad trades for other teams too?

Kovalchuk is actually doing better than I thought he would.

$6.25 - $4 = $2.25.

I would rather keep Hyman and all the things he brings to the table that Kovalchuk doesn’t. Not to mention the 1st.

27 Nov 2018 04:12:25
LeafsGM I’m pretty sure Pinball is a leaf fan and actually thinks this is a good proposal.

27 Nov 2018 04:16:20
Doesnt kolvochuk have NC and specifically chose la?

27 Nov 2018 06:11:04
@Leafs17

Really? I never seen him comment. Just post these crazy trades every day. I guess since he puts them up over and over and over he might actually think they are good trades. I don’t know. There is never any explanation.

27 Nov 2018 12:35:12
Kovy is actually so underrated he has unreal hands and a shot. Almost every game he makes a highlight real play ( Heybarbour) but it leads to nothing. LA is just not the System for him. In A team like Buffalo he’d really excel on the PP and would compliment Eichel or even Middelstad.

26 Nov 2018 21:50:44
Chicago Trades
Seabrook

Toronto Trades
Zaitsev
4th Round Pick 2019
2nd Round Pick 2020

Thoughts?

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26 Nov 2018 23:03:03
Is zaitsev ever going to be as good as seabrook was in his prime? Probably not. But 5 more years of a 33 year old decking asset at $6.8 mill or 5 more years of a 26 year old steady player at $4.5mill?! Easy no from leafs. I was a huge fan of seabrook but hawks wouldn’t have to pay us to take him at this point. That contract is about as big of anchor as there is in the league today.

26 Nov 2018 23:48:15
Hell yes from chicago, i'd take that deal in a heartbeat. but why would toronto do this?

27 Nov 2018 02:19:15
Seabrook is still better than Zaitsev. Not sure I can make that same statement in five years.

Big changes coming to Chicago. Wouldn’t surprise me they start trading out pieces of their dynasty. Maybe even a couple hof pieces (Seabrook might make it) . The Schmaltz trade is just a taste I’m sure.

27 Nov 2018 04:19:38
Ya, Chicago would have to include probably a couple 1sts for anyone to take that contract. Chicago's my favorite team and think his contract is nearly unmovable. Once in a while it happens so never say never I guess.

26 Nov 2018 20:58:54
LAK- Carter

DAL- Hanzel, 2019 1st, 2020 2nd.

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27 Nov 2018 00:54:33
i'd do it.

27 Nov 2018 01:45:28
Not bad.

27 Nov 2018 02:25:02
Can dallas afford to do this? Hanzel is LTIR. If they lose him off the books, they have no cap space left. Maybe they would be better keeping Hanzel to give them the relief to afford Carter? Or am I missing something?

27 Nov 2018 13:31:36
I’ll be honest I don’t know exactly how it works LeafsGM. I don’t know if Hanzal can be traded on the LTR but once he’s off (I don’t know what his injury is) the salary will be almost a wash.

27 Nov 2018 19:00:15
@ebs

Spinal fusion back surgery. They say he’s looking to come back, but I have a hard time ever seeing him ply again.

26 Nov 2018 20:58:31
Toronto should pickup Karl Alzner off waivers from Montreal. When Nikita Zaitsev comes off injury send him down. Karl Alzner would be a got pairing with Ron Hainsey.


Toronto trades Jake Gardiner and Connor Brown to Jake Muzzin and 3rd 2019.

Defense

Reilly - Muzzin
Hainsey - Alzner
Dermott - Ozhiganov

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26 Nov 2018 21:23:11
That d looks worse than now lol muzzin is good, but Gardiner and zaitsev for muzzin and Alzner is a backwards step.

26 Nov 2018 22:43:37
That looks very old and slow.

27 Nov 2018 00:28:16
I disagree! Gardiner is a defensive liability. He has proven this over and over for years. Alzner has shown that he can be a solid dman when given the an opportunity like when he played in Washington.

Muzzin > Gardiner
Alzner > zaitsev.

27 Nov 2018 02:26:41
Hainsey is playing fantastic top line with Rielly. Outstanding actually. We definitely getting our money worth there. As long as he can keep it up the whole year. I actually hope we re-sign him.

27 Nov 2018 03:54:15
You want to trade Alzner for Zaitsev? I'm down with that.

27 Nov 2018 06:13:06
I bet you would be down with that Sosa. Lol. And maybe Rielly for Weber while we’re at it?

 


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