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04 Oct 2018 05:51:01
Leafs trade Nylander
NJ trades Severson, Bratt

I suggested Bratt, but Wood or Zacha would be just as good. All three are young, cheap, and have lots of upside potential.

There’s a lot to like about Severson, but the thing I like most about him is his contract.

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05 Oct 2018 11:23:01
Sverson may have the worst defensive ability in the game ( worse then Faulk ) I would not want him on the leafs.

03 Oct 2018 18:23:12
Canucks demko joulevi guddy

Panters ekblad

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03 Oct 2018 19:01:05
Canucks shouldn’t want Ekblad anyway. He’s a complete wimp who won’t even fight a 3rd liner in preseason. Not the type of leadership a young team needs!

03 Oct 2018 20:23:34
Yes that's what I was thinking too jim. Bout time you came around.

03 Oct 2018 20:45:02
Lol Jim. Its preseason, Ekblad did the right thing. Domi is the person.

03 Oct 2018 21:12:15
Doncherry, I know. Lol. I’m kidding. Ekblad is the type of player any team, whether their core is 20, 25, 30 or 35 years old, could want and use. Well any team but Montreal of course. They don’t like players like him. Just enforcers who will score 40 goals like Max Domi.

03 Oct 2018 21:45:49
Oh boy. don't get this Ekblad / Domi thing started again lol.

03 Oct 2018 22:31:48
@Sosa, just having some fun. Nylander still hasn’t signed. Slow news day in leaf land till puck drop lol.

04 Oct 2018 05:04:43
I don’t know about Ekblad. Great player, but so was Lindros for a while, until, you know, the whole concussion thing started. 4 concussions and only 22 years old would have to make any GM in the league think twice.

Domi is a cheap shot just like his old man.

04 Oct 2018 12:39:07
@LeafsGM, you are a leaf fan. You are not allowed to admit a leafs player was dirty! Page 2 of the Habby Testament lol if you’re a leaf fan, you automatically have to love domi according to him.

04 Oct 2018 13:52:40
Yes jim that's true. your on fire this week, the most sense you have ever made on here. I can't wait till domi gets his statue outside the ACC just like all those other leaf legends.

04 Oct 2018 13:55:38
@unbiasedjim

After Cement Hands sucker punched Neidermeyer when NJ knocked Leafs out of playoffs that one year, I lost whatever respect I ever had for him. Which wasn’t much to begin with.

Max Domi has cement hands just like his old man. And they are both cheap shots. I’m glad Leafs have moved past that.

04 Oct 2018 14:42:26
I agree Leafs. I told Habby I hated Ties disgusting actions of elbows and sucker punches but was told every leaf fan loved him lol.

04 Oct 2018 15:06:40
I can't believe that you are so insecure that something I said could be bothering you that much jim? I wasn't aware that if I said something on here it would be still giving you trouble weeks afterwards. I'm sorry bout that buddy, I'll try not to say anything to hurt your feelings again. Ok muffin?

04 Oct 2018 15:16:34
Uh oh. Here we go again.

04 Oct 2018 17:08:26
@unbiasedjim

It wasn’t just Domi I didn’t like off that team. I also thought Tucker and Roberts were a couple real dirty cheap shots too. I couldn’t stand Tucker. When Ruutu levelled him, I just saw it as he finally got what he had coming.

04 Oct 2018 17:17:48
Yeah, I’m the insecure one as you click agree 6 more times on your own post so you can sleep 😂.

04 Oct 2018 17:45:05
I don’t think Roberts was a dirty player, tucker definitely played on that edge a lot. Roberts played really hard and was ruthless but kept it to what was acceptable in those days I feel. A guy like Roberts hit everyone he could every shift, like Wilson does now. When you have 250+ hits a year, there’s no way that there won’t be questionable ones in there. Problem with Wilson’s are he hits so damn hard, that if he misses his mark by a few inches, it’s catastrophic. That’s why I hate the elbow to noedermayers head by Tie, or a premeditated sucker punch far more than a bad hit.

05 Oct 2018 21:56:59
Domi move was stupid. Ekblad did the right thing... hell i would do the same thing if I had concussion problems...

05 Oct 2018 22:20:29
That don't explain why he fought deslauriers last year though does it bumble bee?

06 Oct 2018 00:27:55
And a big contract, and a guaranteed spot on the top pair, and teammates, a coach, manager and ownership counting on you being in the lineup every night.

06 Oct 2018 05:48:00
Well one was in March and one was in September. You sure are thick if you need to be explained that preseason games are meaningless for a guy like Ekblad. Injuries happen in hockey, but why take extra risk of injury in a game that’s supposed to be getting you back in shape and your timing back for the real thing. if you aren’t playing more intense in mid March than in the first preseason game, you should get a new job.

06 Oct 2018 06:10:30
Like I said before his stick work was in mid season form. Come back and talk again when he breaks marners ankle.

06 Oct 2018 19:03:01
Okay. Ekblad is the type of player that needs to be out of the league for his stick work and dirty play. You are right. You win. He’s a weapon and the sport doesn’t need all star Dmen, it needs true throw back courageous players like Max Domi.

06 Oct 2018 20:09:41
Again biased jim nobody said anything about booting him out of the league. Stop being a dick to try and seem right.

03 Oct 2018 13:43:09
Columbus Trades
Panarin

Toronto Trades
Hyman
1st Round Pick 2019
1st Round Pick 2020*
2nd Round Pick 2020
7th Round Pick 2020

*Conditional 1st Round Pick only if Panarin resigns with the Leafs.

Thoughts ?

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03 Oct 2018 15:14:06
Look at your cap before you post trades from now on.

03 Oct 2018 15:56:36
Columbus wants ready now players back not picks, although it wouldn’t hurt to get one
You would have to give up Gardiner, Kapanen, a first, and a good prospect like Grundström or Bracco to get him, unless you wanted to give up Nylander or if Gardiner had an extension so you wouldn’t have to add as much.

03 Oct 2018 16:21:51
Yeah, jackets aren’t rebuilding and will still want to compete, although they have relied so heavily on bobrovsky in the past, and they aren’t getting back a goalie as good regardless, it’ll be tough to compete if he leaves too.

03 Oct 2018 17:49:35
Um after Horton goes on LTIR and his 5.3mill the Leafs are around 18mill, then you add in the 2.5mill of Hyman that's close to 21mill, minus the 6mill of Panarin that's still 15mill in Cap Space #yupp, so you need to look at the Cap.

03 Oct 2018 23:07:25
Ignorant comment @ Yupp if you don’t know Something don’t comment.

04 Oct 2018 04:44:42
I think what yupp was getting at is the cap hit after this season. Unless we are trading two first round picks for a rental (which is a bad idea), then I assume pinball is wanting to re-sign Panarin? In that case, signing Panarin, Matthews, Marner, plus whatever Nylander gets, as he hasn’t been traded here, would almost certainly put us over.

I agree with everyone else here as well: Columbus considers themselves competitive and are not re-building. Two late first round picks and a couple other later picks in two years time (three picks total for 2020) is not going to help Columbus win the cup any time soon.

04 Oct 2018 05:31:07
He obviously means in the long run the leafs can’t afford Panarin. So vb if you don’t even understand what he’s saying don’t comment then.

04 Oct 2018 13:08:21
Well I guess if you trade Nylander for picks and prospects you can for Panarin in. You of all people calling that simple comment ignorant is pretty funny tho. You must be a millennial if that offended you.
Also, I do know the Leafs cap situation, everyone does, so how the F was my comment ignorant.

04 Oct 2018 16:13:22
Ya yupp learn your roll everyday and twice on Sundays Hyman and some late 1sts are worth panarin but personally I think it’s the 7th that makes it unfair for the leafs!

04 Oct 2018 17:50:53
@leafsGM, I agree with your assessment except that it wouldn’t be two 1st rounders for a rental. The second first he has as conditional on him resigning.

05 Oct 2018 11:26:55
Clearly you don’t they can afford almost anyone this season. How am I supposed to know you’re referring to an extension? If they trade for him they won’t resign him just like almost any other rental.

06 Oct 2018 16:52:07
Do not trade all these picks for one player. Its takes one injury to put the leads back to the 80s.

03 Oct 2018 08:51:16
Canucks sutter sven 3 rd pick

Hawks ANISIMOV sad

Hawks gain 3 million in cap space

Hawk murphy. Kempfy 1 rd pick

Ottawa stone

Sven toews kane
DeBrincat Schmaltz stone
Kahun sutter hayden

Goldobin horvat boeser
Saad petterson vitanen
Erikson Anisimov liespic

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03 Oct 2018 11:32:42
Worse than your name.

03 Oct 2018 11:36:07
Stop Brock please, lol.

‘Sutteer sven guddy tanev’. Def Brock. Lol.

And as for the trades, first ones not horrific, saves some cap for Chicago, but I think Saad>Barrtschi and Anisimov>>Sutter.
For the second, no. Kempny doesn't even play for CHI anymore - their 1st could very well be top5, and that's not worth it for a pending UFA who is likely destined to leave the team.

03 Oct 2018 16:43:49
Saad is over payed sven had more points the him last year but he could bounce back canucks take a gamble ANISIMOV is over payed as well and is really bad in his own end sutter and have the same value
If a player on a bad contract you get much for them lol.

02 Oct 2018 19:51:14
Buffalo Trades
Girgensons
Moulson (AHL)

Toronto Trades
FGauthier
Timashov (AHL)
4th Round Pick 2019

Thoughts ?

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03 Oct 2018 03:55:56
I can’t believe someone actually hit believable. Lol.

Absolutely not. Moulson and his $5M bucks to play AHL on lowly Sabers has no place on Leafs.

I think if Leafs are going to dump The Goat, it would be for a pick. Girgensons would be a depth player for us, and we kinda already have enough of those guys. Ennis in particular looks good.

02 Oct 2018 14:44:12
Leafs trade Nylander, Hyman
Chicago trades Boqvist, Saad

Same as Nylander for Timmins or Makar, Boqvist is an elite RHD prospect. Ranked as top 3 RHD prospect players and only 17 years of age, this kid has all the tools necessary to enter the league as a dominant defenseman for many years to come.

Hyman for Saad has to be included to balance salaries.

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02 Oct 2018 15:53:47
Uh no from Chicago. Bruh.

02 Oct 2018 16:39:57
@mcjesus

Why wouldn’t Chicago make this trade?

Brevity is a virtue, but not always. A response without explanation is worse than no response at all.

I actually think Leafs would never make this trade. Saad appears to have stalemated. With a cap hit of $6M big ones, is a large financial hit for a player that may be regressing. Chicago is tight against cap and may be looking to unload Saad. Boqvist is the real target here, but I don’t think Leafs would be wanting to take on Saad and his bloated contract for a prospect player, even one as good as Boqvist.

02 Oct 2018 16:56:02
If Chicago is tight against the cap and would want to dump saads contract, where does Nylander and his $8 mill demands fit in? Also, they need cost controlled Boqvist far too much.

02 Oct 2018 17:14:14
@unbiasedjim

Nylander and his big bucks fit in because Chicago just dumped Saad and his bloated contract on us. Nylander has more upside than an older Saad. I’m assuming Chicago would be willing to pay young Nylander the salary to replenish an aging forward group that put up some lacklustre numbers last year.

Leafs would never make this trade.

02 Oct 2018 18:07:08
‘Leafs would never make this trade’

Then whyd u post it? (Not being rude, just genuinelly, lol)

02 Oct 2018 19:44:53
Also hyman makes $2.3 mill for 3 more years I believe. So you have $6mill leaving and 10.3 mill going back to a team you said is against the cap. That’s where my issue was, not debating that nylanders is a better long term investment than saad.

02 Oct 2018 21:52:35
@topshelfslappers

I posted it mainly just to irritate vb whatever his name is. You’ve seen my posts lots on the Leafs forum. You know I don’t post a lot of junk. But I do like to post at least one proposal a day, good or bad, just to get discussion going and see what others think of the suggested players.

@unbiasedjim

You’re assuming Nylander gets $8M. We can take more salary back to even it out if needed. I don’t like this proposal anyway. I would never seriously suggest taking Saad in in exchange for Nylander.

02 Oct 2018 22:56:14
If Nylander doesn’t get $8 mill, we will sign him. And if we are going to take back worse players equaling $10 mill just to get Nylander gone, what’s the point? Lol we aren’t exactly flush with cap space beyond this year either. If it’s a joke post, then fine. But seemed kinda legit to start, so just pointing out the flaws I see in it.

03 Oct 2018 02:44:02
“Elite RHD “ prospect. I guess every RHD prospect is the next Bobby Orr ehh?

03 Oct 2018 03:56:15
Stop talking like you’re a scholar or somethin hahaha jeez 😂 but Chicago doesn’t do this because boqvist will hopefully be their next “rock” on the point as their d corps now is aging and on the decline of course. And then Saad is still a very good serviceable player. Overall not good for Chicago cap wise (atm) and in the long run for the look of their roster. I’m sure they’d rather keep Boqvist and Saad than trade them for that return right now.

03 Oct 2018 05:56:29
@mcjesus

Thanks for the response. I can’t read your mind, so it’s always nice to have some input on your thinking. What may seem obvious to you may not be so clear to someone else. Sorry for talking like a scholar, I took English in university. It comes naturally to me now I guess.

To everyone that responded, thanks for the comments. I appreciate the feedback. It’s nice to know we all seem to agree that this is a bad trade for both teams. Let’s just put this one away in the back cupboard somewhere and forget about it.

@vb

I like your response here as well. A little humour goes a long way.

03 Oct 2018 17:29:52
Hahaha 👍🏻.

02 Oct 2018 00:42:59
If leafs cannot sign nylander before start of season

Leafs-nylander
Colorado- Conor Timmins and Col 2019 1st

Trade gets leafs a top tier affordable right handed defence prospect who can both push offence and is good defensively. Dubas May have fimiliarity with him as he's played for the greyhounds. Also get a mid-late first. Colorado gets a very good arguably elite winger to give them a scary top 6 to compete in the tough central division.

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02 Oct 2018 05:27:15
Timmins is a great player. Ranked just as highly as Makar (maybe higher, depending on the review), he would be a good choice to target. Avs are loaded at RHD and with both Timmins and Makar, they can afford to let one of these guys go.

Some on this site may say Nylander has more value than Timmins, but don’t you worry about that. Timmins holds more value to us because he fills a glaring need and will be around for a decade. Nylander is greedy and selfish, not a team player at all. I would be more than happy to dump him on Colorado for Timmins and 1st. We have enough highly skilled forwards that trading Nylander for an elite RHD prospect player won’t significantly reduce our offense and would greatly improve our defense.

Either Timmins or Makar is excellent choice. And I think targeting Avs is a smart choice. Their own re-build is coming along nicely, and Nylander would complete the top six for them making them an offensive force.

02 Oct 2018 06:11:37
Leafs would love that, not sure if Colorado would do that. But interesting post!

02 Oct 2018 10:40:46
Again not saying this trade is bad for Toronto but saying Timmons is an “ elite d prospect “ prospect is ridiculous. He’s a second round pick who’s been shaping out very well similar to Travis Dermott. Saying he’s Elite- ( Hedman, Dahlin, Jones, Karlsson, Doughty, ETC) tier is ridiculous chill out with that label. I could see him being a very good player in the future but not at the elite level.

02 Oct 2018 13:34:48
First of all I didn’t say anything about Timmins being “elite” as of now. Second how about Weber or Keith to start with, both drafted in the second round lower than Timmins and are considered elite. Being drafted in the first round doesn’t guarentee “elite” status, it’s a trade that fills need for both teams.

02 Oct 2018 14:20:19
@vb

Calling a top 5 defense prospect an “elite prospect” isn’t so ridiculous. Coming from someone who has a very real tendency to contradict himself is hypocritical: one post you say Nylander is not a star, but then you’re pretty quick to throw the elite label on him. Nylander had 20 goals and 60 points last year and almost the exact same the year previous. Hardly what I would call elite. Maybe your definition of elite is different from mine?

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If you don’t like me hyping prospects and players, then don’t read my posts. I’ve already basically started to ignore yours, as they seem to be hyper-critical without contributing much in the way of conversation or debating the merits of the players involved.

02 Oct 2018 20:52:47
Subban also a second round pick. All multiple time Norris Finalists and a cpl wins over the last few years.

03 Oct 2018 02:47:21
Missing the point the reality is Timmons will never be in the Elite Catagory those you listed aren’t either. Elite is Orr, Coffey, Lindstrom, Harvey, ETC not Timmons and Friggin Subban.

03 Oct 2018 05:40:32
You don’t think Weber, Keith or Subban are/ were elite in their primes? All were considered top 5 D in the league for stretches with Weber considered the best for quite a while. i'd consider all of them elite at leas for long stretches of their careers. What about Chelios? Also of the 4 you mentioned Orr and Harvey came before the draft and Lidström was drafted 53 overall which is a second round today (3rd round at the time) . Where does Josi fit for you? He was also a second Round pick.

03 Oct 2018 16:04:16
@VBB Okay now I’m really confused. So you’re saying to be called elite, you have to be a surefire first ballot hall of famer? And yet you have called marner and Nylander Elite many times. Wouldn’t that mean you consider them in the likes of gretzky, Howe, Lemieux, Hull?!?! Lol

And you wouldn’t trade Nylander for anything shy of the next Bobby Orr? Hahaha come on man. You are getting more rediculous by the day lol Nylander has a chance to be an elite scorer because very few guys can put up 40 goals and 80pts and I believe that’s atleast a possibility for him. However I would never even think to suggest he would reach the status of top 100 players of all time let alone top 4/ 5 at his position lol craziness on a Wednesday.

03 Oct 2018 17:48:27
Ok, elite is top 10 0f all time? Alright, got your thought process now so can comprehend wtf you're talking about.

03 Oct 2018 19:23:54
So the trade is close to fair, you’re (VB) is saying that Timmins is not a elite defence prospect, which no where in the post did I call him a elite prospect, which is fair but by your standards nylander isn’t anywhere close to elite either, which is also fair to say. So the trade is a good forward for a good defence prospect that has lots of potential to be exactly what the leafs want/ need with the addition of a late first to even out the difference that nylander is currently a top 6 forward and Timmins is unproven.

03 Oct 2018 23:22:41
Mertle I was not referring to you at all and I don’t believe Nylander is Elite. It really depends what you consider Elite. I’d say the top 1% of NHL player of all Time belong in the elite category. Not saying second round picks can’t/ Haven’t gotten to the level I’m just saying he won’t. He’s a very good prospect and I’d love him on the leafs but I wouldn’t call him Elite. I’d consider Dahlin the only “Elite prospect “
Could see Petterson/ Svechnikov/ Zandina getting there but I’m not throwing the Elite tital at them.

02 Oct 2018 00:07:03
Canucks horvat boeser tanev

Tor marner nylander


Mathews tavars kadri
Johnnson horvat boeser
Marlue hyman brown

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02 Oct 2018 05:34:03
Oh wow. Boeser and Horvat for Nylander and Marner. That’s a toughie.

I would trade Nylander for either of Horvat or Boeser, but not Marner. Marner is the best player in this trade, and has a much higher ceiling than Horvat and probably Boeser as well. I expect Horvat and Boeser would put up better numbers playing for Leafs than they have on Vancouver.

Leafs pass on a pretty serious offer. If Vancouver were to throw in Petterson or Juolevi as well, then Leafs would have to think long and hard about this trade.

02 Oct 2018 06:12:15
Rather have Boeser than Marner.

02 Oct 2018 07:12:54
The leafs don’t need any more excellent centers, try Winnipeg.

02 Oct 2018 10:45:11
Boeser is filthy he has 40 +goal potential I see a future Kucherov in him would love him on the leafs. Marner will never be as good as of a scorer but he’ll be a better all around player I’d say there value is down to preference.

02 Oct 2018 13:00:45
I agree it’s close, I think marner will be the best player when all is said and done. Bit adding Peterson would make the leafs think about it?! Lol Peterson is unbelievable. He may be the best out of all of them in a cpl years. They add him in I’m taking it and running so damn fast lol.

02 Oct 2018 13:17:42
Lol @ those Toronto lines.

02 Oct 2018 15:51:29
I like how there’s 3 centerman playing the top line.

02 Oct 2018 16:16:39
@unbiasedjim

I like that response. Lol. My own bias towards the blue and white really came through with that response. Petterson is highest prospect player entering NHL right now and has potential to really light it up. If Vancouver threw him in this trade it would heavily tilt the trade towards Leafs favor. Boeser himself is probably the best player in this proposal. As the old saying goes, the team that gets the best player wins the trade.

This was a pretty interesting proposal. Vancouver would shoot this offer down more so than the Leafs. They have more to lose.

02 Oct 2018 20:58:21
Time will tell. I really like Boeser, crazy release, I just honestly believe Marner will be the more consistent point producer and more versatile while I don’t doubt for a second Boeser puts up more goals. I could be dead wrong on that, but it’ll be interesting to see how in the next 2-3 years, both so young.

02 Oct 2018 22:35:55
Well the talent they play with will affect the points and I say it's safe to say marner has more backup, so he should get more points. If boeser is anywhere close he's probably the better scorer, but don't know about eithers defensive game.

02 Oct 2018 22:59:11
Marner is penalty killing now for the leafs and is a fairly good defensive player, I’m not too sure on Boesers play without the puck tho. And as of today, there’s no doubt marner gets to play with more talented players, but over the next cpl years, Canucks have extremely gifted young players coming.

01 Oct 2018 19:14:22
Just a thought
Toronto trades
Connor Brown, timishov and 2019 2nd
Anaheim trade
Josh Manson

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01 Oct 2018 19:40:05
I know Anaheim liked Brown when leafs were apparently interested in Vatanen. But Manson would be coming with a 4 year contract. It would take more than timashov and a 2nd in addition to Brown to make them think about it.

01 Oct 2018 22:27:09
This trade is so unrealistic it may as well involve unicorns.

02 Oct 2018 14:48:13
LeafsGM the concept of Anaheim trading Manson is not unrealistic he is not a franchise corner piece like Getzlaf, Gibson, Lindholm, Rakel or even Fowler.
Again another stupid comment.

Also no way that brings back Manson. Leafs would probably have to part with Nylander.

02 Oct 2018 16:18:52
@vb

I didn’t say that anaheim wouldn’t trade Manson. They have a long history of trading defensemen and Toronto is a favourite trading partner of theirs. What I meant was the offer of Brown plus a couple throw ins isn’t nearly enough.

Again, another stupid comment by someone looking to make argument for arguments sake and who can’t read a post properly.

03 Oct 2018 02:50:27
“The Trade is so unrealistic it may as well involve unicorns “ that implys the concept is flawed which it is not both teams fill a need but Toronto is not giving up enough.

01 Oct 2018 18:36:44
Mchiliney and Pickard waived by leafs. Carrick traded to Stars for 7th (becomes 6th if he dresses 50 times)

I think Sparks getting the job over Mac Is more a Dubas call than Babcock. Babcock would want whoever is going to give him the better starts when called upon this season. Dubas is looking at long term asset management. Mac was a waiver claim and Sparks is 10 years younger, drafted and developed in house.

Carrick never separated himself from a group of Dmen including Ozhiganov, Rosen, borgman, Holl, Marincin etc and he makes $1.3 mill where most of them make $650-925k. That’s kinda the return I thought we would get. When people were suggesting 4th round picks I said that’s wishful thinking.

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01 Oct 2018 19:41:00
Marincin sucks though. I don't care if Carrick makes 600k more than him. We don't needthe cap this year. i'd rather have just kept Carrick than Marincin smh. Marincin just played bad during camp and got a job. Smh.

01 Oct 2018 19:47:31
Marincin is somehow an above average Dman according to analytics. Dubas is an analytics guy. Marincin just played a big role for the championship marlies. Dubas was the marlies GM. Not sure how much all that weighed into the decision, but I agree with you that he shouldn’t be on the team. However, carrick hasn’t done anything to impress me over the last half of last season and this camp. If they felt he wasn’t going to play anyway, and sit in the pressbox, maybe it’s better for that to be Marincin. No one would take Marty and this frees up a roster spot for future moves maybe. I dunno.

01 Oct 2018 20:13:38
I’m ok with Carrick and Marincin never playing s game for the leafs again. I’ve heard that about Marincin and analytics, it sure makes me a non believer. He is an AHL defenseman at best. I’d play Borgman or Rosen ahead of him any day.

01 Oct 2018 20:45:52
@Leafs17, preaching to the choir lol which is why I’m somewhat doubtful of analytics as well. I don’t doubt that they have SOME value in assessing players, but they need to be used in moderation with some old school Eyetest evaluations. Babcock and Dubas each specialize in one of those styles, so hopefully they can accent each other and keep an open mind towards eachother and not get in a pissing contest.

01 Oct 2018 22:31:20
Carrick sucks. Marincin sucks. Leafs have a lot of defensive prospects, but outside of Liljegren and maybe Sandin, the rest of the guys are just plugs. Finding and retaining a 1RHD is going to be the most difficult task facing Leafs management to complete the roster. If we trade, it will be expensive. And drafting and developing another player will be time consuming.

We only have Tavares for seven years. That’s not actually a very big window of opportunity.

01 Oct 2018 22:57:04
A #1 RHD is obviously ideal, but pretty unrealistic both in what assets we would have to give away and where they would fit in salary cap wise. A good RHD, good in his own zone but still capable of moving a puck out would go a long way. Could acquire that without hurting the offense a ton and could probably pay one. Something similar to Adam Larson would be nice, just not at the cost of a Hart Trophy winner lol.

02 Oct 2018 11:39:18
@unbiasedjim

The problem is that even a half decent RHD still costs an arm and a leg. What is forgotten in the excitement surrounding the Hall-Larsson trade is the NJ eventually had to trade Henrique for Vatanen, a very sizeable payment in and of itself.

Getting a 1RHD via trade is going to be expensive. Best Leafs can hope for is to keep getting plugs on expiring contracts for cheap, like we did with Hainsey, and maybe Faulk next year, and hope Liljegren steps up sooner rather than later.

 


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