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10 Oct 2018 23:31:42
Just thinking randomly here because I'm bored and have nothing to do but here we go.

Edm- Draisaitl and Nurse

Car- Aho and Faulk


This trade would never happen but what do you guys think about value and how would you react to something like this happening?
Hopefully this helps entertain some of you for a little bit while you're bored too, cheers!

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11 Oct 2018 00:59:57
Pretty bad.
Post a Trouba trade, Gaurauntee entertainment.

11 Oct 2018 03:02:48
I agree yup Aho is much better/ Cheap then Drais as he’s a product of McDavid.

11 Oct 2018 05:44:18
Vbb, draisatal has not played much with McDavid in over a year, he c on his own line, he and aho may be close in value but rather have nurse than Faulk.

12 Oct 2018 02:54:11
Faulk being compared to Nurse is a joke Faulk is the god of Turnovers.

10 Oct 2018 19:24:15
New Jersey signs William Nylander to 8.1M x 7 years offer sheet, giving up a first, second and third round pick to toronto

anything much higher and they'd have to give up another first rounder.

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10 Oct 2018 19:42:02
Wouldn't that still cost more then a 1st 2nd and3rd.

10 Oct 2018 19:43:44
If the offer is for more than 5 years, then you take the total contract amount and divide it by 5 years.

So, in this case it would be $56.7÷5=$11.34/ year. That would be 4 first round picks which I'm sure the Leafs would gladly accept.

10 Oct 2018 20:03:52
yikes I didn't realize that was a thing with offer sheets-- maybe let's say 8.25 x 5 years instead haha.

10 Oct 2018 20:04:03
Yeah, I’ll take 4 NJD 1st rounders for Nylander. Then draft another high skill winger with one, a Dman with one and shop for a RHD with the other 2.

10 Oct 2018 20:12:28
Nylander is looking for max years and money. If he’s not willing to budge off his 7-8 year term to stay in Toronto I doubt he does for New Jersey, but who knows.

10 Oct 2018 18:39:09
Nylanderand borgman to philly for
Konecny top 10 protected 1st 2019 and moron
Tor get a cheater replacement for nylander and potential top 4 6'6 defenceman
Philly upgrade second line jvr patrick and nylader allowing giroux couts and voracek to play top line
Nylander signs at 7.5 m for 8 y
What do you think it helps both team? What if any would anything would have to be changed to make?

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10 Oct 2018 19:48:24
Hmmmm don't think Philly would do that.

Also, Toronto doesn't really need a replacement for Nylander at all. They are scoring in droves and would be better off trading Nylander for defensive help -- Philly could be a good trading partner though as they have a ton of defensive talent/ prospects. Might be something there.

Nylander's holdout in my opinion has comically backfired as all it has illustrated is that the Leafs can still score a ton without his help.

10 Oct 2018 20:59:29
He's the Le'veon Bell of the NHL right now. Better than what they are using, but does not make the team look bad without him.

10 Oct 2018 23:01:50
Dead on Turkey! He’s better than Kappy, but not $7mill better when looking at the lineup and other weaknesses.

10 Oct 2018 17:55:10
Anaheim Trades
Kase
Montour
1st Round Pick 2019
2nd Round Pick 2020

Toronto Trades
WNylander
Marincin
4th Round Pick 2019

Thoughts ?

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10 Oct 2018 18:16:21
Marincin has no value. He’s to good for the AHL. Not good enough for the NHL. You will probably see him in the KHL next year.

10 Oct 2018 19:04:03
I love the idea of trading Nylander and let’s say Brown and maybe a pick to Anaheim for Kase and 1 of Montour or Manson, seems to me it is something the leafs should really consider.

10 Oct 2018 20:54:37
Nylander is great and all but you think he can get Montour, Kase, a 1st annnnd a 2nd? Pinball take a hike bud.

10 Oct 2018 17:50:42
Columbus Trades
Panarin
Sedlak

Toronto Trades
Hyman
FGauthier
1st Round Pick 2019
4th Round Pick 2019
1st Round Pick 2020*

*Conditional only if Panarin resigns with the Leafs.

Some on here might say Panarin is worth more but realistically Panarin probably won't resign with the Leafs and he probably won't be signing in Columbus either, yes Panarin is the best Player in this Trade Proposal but to get a hard nosed 2 way Winger with a good contract, FGauthier might or might not be a NHL regular but he is bigger than Sedlak and makes less in Contract, so Columbus in the big picture will have traded 1 season of Panarin and Sedlak for an NHL Player in Hyman, a Prospect in FGauthier, plus 2 Draft Picks one being a 1st Round Pick, with a possible 1st Round Pick in 2020 if Panarin does resign in Toronto.

For the Leafs with all there Depth in the AHL with Grundstrom, Bracco etc knocking on the door probably next year it makes sense to go for it this year, when WNylander resigns they will be a scoring machine.

Thoughts ?

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10 Oct 2018 18:21:02
Ok. Who are you and what did you do with the real Pinball?

This trade actually kind of makes sense.

Hate to see Hyman go. But you got to give to get.

As a rental, Panarin is worth the traditional pick + player. You’ve made a reasonable offer. May not be enough for CLB, but I would be reluctant to offer more.

You keep posting proposals like this and we all might be able to start taking you more serious again.

10 Oct 2018 19:06:32
This isn’t bad, but Columbus has already said if they do trade Panarin they would want a ready now guy back like Gardiner and a guy like Kapanen to go with it.

10 Oct 2018 19:29:51
Value wise from the leafs it’s a lot to give up. But value wise for Columbus, it’s not nearly enough. Hyman is great at what he does. He’s a gritty 3rd liner or can do the grunt work for stars. Gauthier is still trying hard to prove he can be a 4th liner. And then what should be a late 1st and a 4th?! Next to zero chance any of those pieces become nearly what panarin is. Just don’t see that being the best they can get. Think of what you would want for Nylander and then think of a 3rd liner, 4th liner and a late 1st would make you happy? I’m aware he’s younger and more under control, but panarin is also a more proven star still only 25 or 26.

10 Oct 2018 23:28:36
My guess is if Columbus waits to Trade him they won't get nearly enough at the Deadline, if they keep him he probably does a Tavares and walks away for nothing, I agree it's a hard choice to make plus they have Bobrovsky to make a choice on, I would seriously look at Trading Panarin now before it's to late, my Proposal to me is fair only because Panarin is a UFA after this year.

10 Oct 2018 17:24:45
Canucks sven pouliot kole lind 3 rd pick


Cbj artem p.

Canucks guddy artem .p

Tor nylander hainsey

Artem .p mathews kadri
Marlue tavars marner
Kappenen hyman brown

Reilly guddy
Gradier nikta z
Dermont russian guy lol

Boeser petterson nylander
Goldobin horvat virtanen
Lispic sutter erikson
Rousel beagle granlund
Edler stecher
Hutton tanev
Delzotto hainsey

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10 Oct 2018 19:07:30
Can you be a little more clear with your trades please?

10 Oct 2018 21:04:18
Between Marleu and Kadri playing top line wing - you have made my day sir. This was hilarious.

10 Oct 2018 14:47:37
With Murray down, do you think Pittsburgh could think about aquiring Bobrovsky?
To Columbus:
Desmith, 2019 1st, Sprong, Maatta
To Pittsburgh:
Bobrovsky (1 year extension), Milano

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10 Oct 2018 16:03:14
I think Columbus is going to ride Bobrovsky myself. A 2x Vezina winner in net to carry them deep into the playoffs. He’s still regarded my most to be the best goalie in the league. AS Columbus sees themselves as competitive, you can be sure they will keep him. As we saw last year, and virtually almost every year, a hot goalie can carry a team all the way. And who better to bet on than Bobrovsky?

10 Oct 2018 16:59:44
What's with the 1 year extension? You think bobrovsky or any other star player would sign a 1 year extension? I know I don't.

10 Oct 2018 19:08:03
Idk just to make it more fair I guess.

10 Oct 2018 13:03:40
I'll bite on Nylander/Tanev but I'd make a 1st manditory as IMO Tanev isn't a good enough base.

Leafs: William Nylander and 2nd 2019

Canucks: Tanev and Top 5 protected 1st 2019 ( continues until pick is outside of top 5 )

Leafs get a potentially early pick and the deffensman they need. Vancouver gets a potential franchise altering player who could challenge for a scoring tital in the future.

Boeser-Petterson-Nylander

This could challenge

Marchand-Bergeron-Pasta
Or
Benn-Seguin-Radulov

I would not make a trade with Vancouver unless Demko,Hughes or 1st 2019 was in the deal.

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10 Oct 2018 14:14:48
Easy no from the Canucks. With the draft being in Vancouver, there is zero chance they trade their first pick.

Nylander "franchise altering player". Lol 😆.

10 Oct 2018 14:42:26
Nylander being a franchise altering playwr is as ridiculous as your take on Trouba memarcusjoe.

10 Oct 2018 15:38:12
@itookdon Let's not turn this into another Leafs begging for Trouba thread.

10 Oct 2018 15:45:50
@doncherry

It was vb that referred to Nylander as a ranchise altering player. Joe was mocking him for it. As he should.

@vb

Tanev is garbage. I have a very hard time seeing someone who has spent that much time being injured ever returning to previous form, let alone reach full potential. You really want to trade out 1RW for an injury riddled defenseman and a 1st? Plus you want to give them a 2nd for doing them this favor?

Leafs pass.

10 Oct 2018 15:55:02
@leafsgm. He’s saying vbb calling Nylander that is equal to Marcus calling Trouba a superstar.

10 Oct 2018 16:41:56
@unbiasedjim

Ok. You’re right. Lol. I get it now. They’re both right.

10 Oct 2018 16:50:44
Never said I wanted Trouba memarcusjoe. There are at least 10 other dmen i would want before him that might in the slightest be available.

10 Oct 2018 17:39:11
Actually though Trouba is far, far, far closer to a superstar (which I've never called him) than Nylander is to a "franchise altering player" lol. 😆

Unless by "franchise altering" you mean that he'll alter your franchise for the worse because you'd be overpaying for a soft as butter winger?

10 Oct 2018 18:08:47
Memarcusjoe, go back and read a bunch of your posts on him please. You talk the guy up as much as anybody does there favorite player or team. His claim is ridiculous about Nylander, but you should not be commenting based on your undying love and support for Trouba.

10 Oct 2018 19:11:45
Turning down offers for Trouba that make the Jets worse as I do, is not the same as calling Nylander a "franchise altering player". Lol

Go back and re-read my posts on Trouba, I've never once called him anything more than what he is. A young, top pairing defenseman.

I know things like the truth don't go over well on this site, but there you have it. Please try to be truthful and not exaggerate when you are claiming another poster said something.

10 Oct 2018 19:21:49
"Potential franchise altering player"
That's got to be the best thing I've ever read on here.
Way too funny.

10 Oct 2018 20:09:03
Any player who you can put up a PPG is a franchise altering player. He can’t be a face of a Franchise like A Crosby, Dahlin or Price he can be a player similar to Paniran or Kessel.

10 Oct 2018 21:42:28
Lol Kessel was franchise altering. Leafs had to get rid of him to get better.

10 Oct 2018 22:24:44
Joe you’ve also said that Trouba is better than Reilly. We all know that Toronto needs defense but I don’t see your center depth tearing up the score sheet. I can admit the leafs are not a perfect team, can you say that the mighty jets are not a perfect team? I didn’t think so. You probably think Scheifele/ Roslovic are the next Crosby/ Malkin. No need to be ignorant every time you post.

10 Oct 2018 23:14:49
@Leafs17, now what are you on about? What does Nylander not being a "franchise altering player" have to do with the Jets center depth?

No, I agree the Jets are not a perfect team, but as much as it pains Leaf fans to admit it, they Jets are a very good team, deeper and better than Toronto. Even with our center depth, we still had over 100 points and were 2nd in the NHL before Stastny arrived. So, it's not like center is a weakness that is killing us.

As for Reilly, Trouba is better than him in every category except PP points. That's why I say that.

I've tried giving civil responses on here many times, but when it is something the homers here, yourself included, don't want to hear, they normally respond with name calling, yourself included, because they can't back up their homerism with facts. So, sometimes when a Leafs homer makes a stupid statement like vvbb did, I like to give a little shot back.

Or if a poster outright lies about something and tries to attribute that to me as doncherry did above, I feel I have the right to call them out on it.

11 Oct 2018 00:28:16
Bahaha! There’s not a single person on this site that has ever said the jets are not a good team. You say the leafs are “begging” for Trouba on a daily basis so I like to point out some things you can’t see about your own team. You and your sidekick have been called homers by every fan base on this site so you don’t have a leg to stand on. Have a nice day.

11 Oct 2018 00:35:31
Leafs17 I feel like you’re putting down Schifele here he belongs in the Mathews/ Tavares tier or atleast very close.

11 Oct 2018 01:43:52
@Leafs17, right. They call us homers because we turn down trades that the Jets can't afford cap wise or make the Jets worse. So, that somehow makes us homers I guess?

Just imagine the furor on this site had Islandjet or I said an equal Jets player, Ehlers, was a potential "franchise altering player". This place would have melted down, but when a Leafs homer says it, we should just let it go as fact.

I give you credit though for exiting a discussion for once without name calling. You have a nice day too.

11 Oct 2018 03:29:33
Not at all vbb’s. I’m putting down the #2/ 3 combo. Scheifele is a stud. The jet homers (not Alpaca) like to bash the leafs any chance they can. They will tell you that Matthews/ Tavares are decent. I do watch hockey, I know the jets are a good team but these guys think their sh*t doesn’t stink.

10 Oct 2018 06:19:50
Leafs trade Nylander, 1st
Dallas trades Shore, Janmark, Tufte, Spezza

Marleau/ Matthews/ Kapanen
Hyman/ Tavares/ Marner
Shore/ Kadri/ Janmark
Johnsson/ Spezza/ Brown
*Leivo, Lindholm, Ennis

Shore and Janmark combined give us Nylander’s goal/ point totals. Tufte is a highly rated prospect expected to play NHL next year, and I really like his size. Spezza is cap dump to make the salary work.

Nylander = Shore + Janmark
1st = Tufte
Spezza = Cap Dump

The Kadri line has looked pretty bad so far this year. This gives 3rd line a makeover. Maybe new partners will light a fire under Kadri’s ass and get him going. These guys are all good players, and cheap. Cap issues shouldn’t be a problem next year anymore with Nylander gone.

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10 Oct 2018 11:40:27
Rather try an upgrade the d than downgrade Nylander to a collection of third liners. Plus we throw in a first? Nah, imo.

10 Oct 2018 12:44:57
So Nylander and a 1st for Spezza and 3 AHL players sounds great where do I sign? The 1st has more value then that whole Package. Tufte= bust very underwhelming statistically look up his stat line. I guarantee Shore does not come close to making the leafs line up. Kadri and Bozak combined = McDavids statistically is that must mean the oilers make that trade right?

10 Oct 2018 14:46:25
Depth is what wins cups. And this trade brings in extra depth. Tufte’s stats have gotten better since he was drafted, not worse. My understanding is he could be playing NHL already, but went back to school one more year to complete his education. Nylander’s value is dropping by the day as it is becoming more and more obvious he was beneficiary of playing with Matthews, not the other way around. It’s also a cost saving manoeuvre. At this point, I have a hard time seeing us getting a player of equal value in a one-for-one trade anymore and believe if Leafs trade Nylander it will be for a package of some sort. Or, as TopShelfSlappers suggests, for a defenseman. But i’ve already posted enough Nylander for defensemen trades, and just wanted to throw something else out for a change. Keep it fresh. These guys aren’t bad players at all. You guys are undervaluing them. Or overvaluing Nylander, who most definitely will never contend for a scoring title. Ha!

10 Oct 2018 02:40:42
VAN: Del Zotto
WPG: Kulikov, 4th Round Pick 2019

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