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25 Jul 2018 07:25:30
How far of the possibility is this?

Tor: Nylander (rfa right now)

CLB: Panarin (UFA next year)

All signs point towards Nylander being worth 6-7 million a year and Panarin has said he wants to play for a bigger market so maybe he’d be willing to sign with the leafs next summer at a 7x7 deal. Columbus gets a younger player that has potential to play center and get 70+ points and Toronto gets a proven ppg winger that helps with the win now mentality as if think he’s the better player but not for as long as Nylander.

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25 Jul 2018 15:32:38
If panarin was signing for Nylanders money then sure lol but I don’t see that happeneing at all and it would be dumb to trade 5 controllable years of Nylander to upgrade from a 65, Maybe 70 pt winger to an 75-85 pt winger for 1 season.

25 Jul 2018 16:35:57
If it was a sign and trade Columbus would need to add a piece like Ryan Murray because Nylander is 5 years younger and will probably be better then Panairan in the future but the reality is the leafs can’t afford him he’ll sign for Benn money on the open Market.

25 Jul 2018 17:51:07
Panarin getting minimum 8.5mil for his contract imo.

25 Jul 2018 18:30:23
Mcjesus is dead on. If ehlers is 6 mill + and kucherov is 9.5, panarin has to be able to get 8-8.5. Only thing that hurts him a bit is pasta signing long term at 6.6 is a comparable a team will try to use for sure.

25 Jul 2018 23:19:54
Toronto would have to add for that trade to work.

25 Jul 2018 01:01:49
Per Eliot Friedman the Leafs and Sharks are interested in Antemi Paniran as a rental. The price Per Eliot is thought to be ( A 1st +a B PROSPECT) I feel like it'll be more then that but not much

Assumption- this is a deadline deal where his value is at an all time low. He makes it clear he wants to test FA and won't sign in Columbus.

Comparison- Evander Kane and Marian Hossa 2009.

Columbus: Paniran And 3rd 2019

San Jose: Kevin Leblanc and 1st 2019

Clb: gets rid of a great player that is unwilling to stay long term. They pick up a promising prospect in Leblanc who's basically a guaranteed 2nd liner atleast and a 1st

SJ- gets a player who can be there best player offensively and they have the room to resign.

Columbus- Paniran and Ryan Murray

Toronto- Jake Gardiner, Connor Brown, and 1st 2019

Clb- Gardiner would be able to play on their top PP and would be an upgrade over Murray. Brown provides top 9 depth and a strong PKer. The 1st is useally a essential when trading for a top tier rental.

Toronto- 100% won't resign Paniran so he'd help the playoff push but Murray could be a long term solution for the 2nd pairing.

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25 Jul 2018 04:44:40
Uh so the San Jose trade is terrible for Columbus. Easy no imo. As for the Toronto trade i can’t see Columbus also including Murray, especially since I know you think he’s a stud dman lol.
So I think Columbus could get better offers.

25 Jul 2018 04:53:28
SAN Jose doesn’t have a 2019 first it’ll have to be a 2020 first and Columbus i don’t think would want to wait for a 2020 pick as they have a squad that could compete now so it’ll require a roster player or prospects that’s ready to make the jump.

25 Jul 2018 05:26:49
Honestly if this is a deadline deal with the assumption you mentioned I take this as a Jackets fan. But I would add that if we are competing for a division spot or are even in a playoff spot, I think we self-rent Panarin to ourselves. This is the best team in franchise history and there is pressure for playoff success after losing to the champs in the first round two straight years.

25 Jul 2018 05:47:36
Good point Spencmence. Also you’re right A099 my apologies. Also I’ve never said Murray’s a stud McJesus I’m not to sure other teams would offer more but you could be right.

25 Jul 2018 11:19:20
No, He suggested that the Leafs could or should be interested in Panarin, not that they are interested and looking into him right now. There's a huge difference. You have to rest to understand then respond not just read to respond. There's a big difference.
And it would be a pure one year rental if they did go after him. If they have the space, why not! Go for it for one, year all out.
But your proposed trade for Panarin and Murray is not enough for CLB. Lol. There would be better offers.

25 Jul 2018 13:04:53
Gardiner is the best piece going back to CBJ from the leafs at the deadline butbhe is a IFA too. Makes no sense, especially including Murray. The best piece coming back only replaces murray who was a throw in, and as of July they have a late first and a bottom 6 player for panarin and Murray? Lol.

25 Jul 2018 15:29:41
I would love to see a line up of:

Panarin - Matthews - Nylander
Marleau - Tavares - Marner
Hyman - Kadri - Kapanen
Who - F’ing - cares

Lol but panarin is 100% a luxury. Top 6 scoring is the last thing we NEED to add and if it comes at the expense of Defense it’s a backwards step. The offer above isn’t near enough, and it’s not worth the leafs paying proper value for what we don’t need.

25 Jul 2018 16:38:11
We’ll see what he gets but UFAs never bring back much. I actually think they get less then that.

25 Jul 2018 17:53:14
I think If you don’t include Murray in the trade and include Kapanen instead of brown it’s a decent offer for Panarin.

24 Jul 2018 16:38:36
edm trades drisaitl,sekera and a 3rd or 2nd pick in 2019

nashville trades subban and turris

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24 Jul 2018 17:18:03
Nashville in win now mode so I can’t see them making this trade if subban is involved.

25 Jul 2018 15:07:57
To be accurate, Friedman did not specify that he had heard the Leafs/ Sharks were interested, was just putting two and two together given their cap space this year and respective situations. I don't think the Leafs go for it, IMO, unless their plan is to try and be the Oilers of the 80's and beat teams 6-5.

24 Jul 2018 15:39:37
Could there be a deal around tanev to the jets for triuba?

Canucks trouba

Jets tanev, sutter 50 percent retained and a 4th becomes a second if he signs

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24 Jul 2018 16:41:13
Nope. Not close. Sutter is a fourth liner. You would have to add something more valuable to Tanev if you wanted to get the Jets attention.

24 Jul 2018 17:31:21
I can't see Van making this deal as they seem to be in a rebuilding mode and as good an addition Trouba would be the Jets would want some young pieces the Canucks would be foolish to trade.

24 Jul 2018 19:15:24
Don’t think it’s enough to get Trouba but as IJ said, doesn’t make sense for Canucks anyway. Trouba is only signed one year, Canucks aren’t ready to compete and if there’s any truth tonhim not wanting to be in a Canadian market, he definitely wouldn’t leave one of the top contenders for the Canucks.

24 Jul 2018 19:16:05
Everyone knows when trouba is a Ufa he's going to the east coast USA so only got control of him for this year and next, only nyi, nyr, philly, teams like this so they should be only teams looking at him if they want him more then a couple year rental and an expensive one.

25 Jul 2018 11:38:15
Tanev and Trouba are a lot closer in value then that Tanev have a down year like Faulk did he is still a goodbye dman.

25 Jul 2018 11:39:48
And sutter is better then little so he would play higher up in winn.

24 Jul 2018 14:59:32
E. Karlsson D

L. Draisaitl C

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24 Jul 2018 15:06:02
Edmonton needs Drais more then Karlsson they have a decent d core but horrendous offensive depth.

24 Jul 2018 15:20:23
no from ottawa, they would want more than just draisaitl.

24 Jul 2018 17:10:59
I think that is a good starting point to be honest, provided a deal is in place that EK would be signing there.
But in the end, i don't know if EDM would want to pay EK what he wants.

25 Jul 2018 11:38:32
I think edm would have to Add another piece to make this go but would be good trade for both teams.

24 Jul 2018 02:58:18
two trades

to NJ

to Ottawa


to Edmonton

to Ottawa
2019 and 2020 1st

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24 Jul 2018 05:10:36
I can't see OTT making that deal for Karlsson, its simply not enough value coming back. If I'm OTT I start the negotiations with Draisaitl ++ coming back.

24 Jul 2018 15:17:06
Devils decline that offer. Zajac is important and Ceci is not someone the team needs.

24 Jul 2018 16:58:13
Why would devils decline. Ottawa declines since zajac is 33 and with almost a 6 mil contract (he had only 26 pts last season). Ceci is a solid top 4 defenceman, and even though ryan's contract is roughly 1 mil extra, he is still 2-3 years younger and had more points (33).

24 Jul 2018 18:00:39
In terms of cost/ point amongst forwards on contracts that end in UFA, standardized to 82 games, Bobby Ryan was $2500 a point more expensive than Zach Parise last year. His comparisons last year (within 5 either way) include Parise, Loui Eriksson, Corey Perry, Casey Cizikas, Jason Pomminville, Brandon Saad and. Travis Zajac! he's much more than 1 mill overpaid and has 4 years left on that deal. Zajac isn't much better but at least a year shorter and 1.5 mill less cap. 91 players over 100k/ point cheaper than Ryan.

25 Jul 2018 01:27:00
Bobby Ryan has less value than just about any player putting up similar points with a lower salary or less years. Zajac has both. Very easy to know why devils say no.

25 Jul 2018 11:50:43
If it drais it’s not ++ maybe a pick but not much more then that.

25 Jul 2018 11:55:28
Ott won’t take a bad contract in a karlson deal.

23 Jul 2018 23:33:56
MON: Gallagher
WPG: Perrault

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24 Jul 2018 04:14:09
Why on earth would Montreal even consider that? Gallagher is probably the best player they have.

24 Jul 2018 13:37:19
I can't see the Habs ever making this trade. Gallagher is younger, cheaper and tougher than Perreault and should bring something better in return.

25 Jul 2018 11:33:34
Ya no thanks from me unless Jacob Trouba is part of the deal.

23 Jul 2018 23:32:09
TOR: Nylander
CAR: Faulk

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24 Jul 2018 04:14:23
Would rather buyout Nylander then see Gardiner and Faulk on the same team. Especially Faulk atleast Gardiner can QB a PP.

24 Jul 2018 05:09:32
Wtf Faulk is a PP QB guy what are you saying? I don’t understand why you hate on Faulk he’s a great player who had a down year.

24 Jul 2018 05:12:44
Faulk just isn't the type of D-man we need. We can get more offensive D-men like him straight from the Marlies and keep Nylander in the process. We need a D-man that's good in both zones but particularly, in our own zone.

24 Jul 2018 07:54:31
Faulk is better than Gardiner, VB, lol wtf.

24 Jul 2018 15:08:20
Really Faulk is better then Gardiner? Why do stats say otherwise? Please explain.

24 Jul 2018 15:10:52
And he’s extremely overrated Edmonton should get him he’d actually help them and he’s not better on the pp then Rielly and especially not Gardiner. Although he does have a nice shot. I’d actually rather Sekera from Edmonton then Faulk he has been terrible offensively recently.

24 Jul 2018 19:23:49
I don’t understand vbb’s hate for Faulk lol but he’s right that the numbers don’t lie, he’s not better than Gardiner. They’re close but Gardiner has had the edge in the last 2-3 years overall. Faulk is a year or two younger, signed a year longer but at a bit higher salary. Pretty even.

25 Jul 2018 11:35:18
Faulk is I 2 way dman that had a bad year you paid him with Reilly that is better d then you had. I believe leafs should move nylander for Faulk but I think it needs to be a bigger trades.

23 Jul 2018 23:31:15
WPG: Trouba
NYI: Bellows, Dobson

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24 Jul 2018 04:19:13
Good players, but the Jets would need a roster player back. They can't take an all futures trade for Trouba.

24 Jul 2018 05:09:54
Agree jets are in win now mode.

24 Jul 2018 05:53:59
No from NYI. Those will be core players in the next few years for the islanders.

24 Jul 2018 12:46:52
No from both. Islanders need those guys to build a new core around Barzal instead of one year of Trouba before another contract fight, and jets need players to win now.

24 Jul 2018 13:46:41
As much as I would like to say no to this trade, if Poolman can step up to be a regular on the Jets roster I would make this trade. The Jets would be getting 2 A prospects and rid themselves of a headache in Troubas agent. I'm not sure NYI would want to give up 2 key pieces of their future.

24 Jul 2018 15:12:12
Bellows is overrated imo he had a great world juniors but aside from that he’s been underwhelming.

23 Jul 2018 23:25:51
Phillipe Myers (RHD - 678K x 2 Years) + Jori Lehtera (C - 4.7 Million x 1 Year) to the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for Josh Leivo (LW/ RW - 650K x 1 Year) + Eamon McAdam (G - 800K x 1 Year) + 2019 5th Round Pick.

I know, it looks like Toronto fleeces Philly. But Philly wants to be a playoff contender this year, and can use the extra 4 Million in Cap Space if they decide to try and improve their roster via trade (Panarin, Skinner, Duchene possibly, maybe even a goalie) . Myers is a RHD prospect, and it does hurt to lose that, but Lehtera is legitimately useless, and is being paid 4.1 Million. If he can be dumped in the AHL he should be, and Toronto has nearly 20 million in cap space. Leivo can be a bottom six guy in Philly, and Myers could be a top 6 dman in Toronto.

Only reason I chose Philly is because they have a surplus of d (Ghost, Sanheim, Gudas, Prov, Morin) . Plus, it may seem like a lot to dump one year of a bad contract, but CHI dumped one year of Bickell with Teuvo for only a 2nd.

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24 Jul 2018 05:18:35
I actually like this deal for both teams, Lehtera can be a 4th line center or AHLer for TOR and we get another RHD in our pool (something we can definitely use) and PHI gets rid of the cap while adding some potential goal scoring in Leivo (who TOR can replace from within the system) .

24 Jul 2018 15:13:11
Don’t think Philly does this but I’d take it from the Leafs POV.

25 Jul 2018 11:36:49
This is a good offer makes sense for both teams.

28 Jul 2018 17:17:18
I say no from Philly. Philly does have a bunch of D but not many RHD, they're expecting Myers to slot into top 4 then top pair eventually. You'll need to send more to philly for one if their top prospects especially when Hextall does not like to move prospects. I do like the idea of the trade tho.


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