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27 Mar 2019 04:41:42
EDM - Lucic (6M 4YRS), 2019 2nd, 2020 2nd
TOR - Zaitsev (4.5M 5YRS), 2020 1st
VAN - Schaller (1.9M 1YRS)

EDM - Zaitsev
TOR - Schaller
VAN - Lucic, 1st, 2nd, 2nd

Would these teams be interested in a trade like this? If so, how are the values?

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27 Mar 2019 05:49:11
I actually don't think its too bad. But trade clearly favours toronto.

27 Mar 2019 07:01:48
Toronto gives up more. A second to dump Zaitsev isn’t enough.

27 Mar 2019 10:11:22
vertius, they are giving up a 1st though?

27 Mar 2019 15:05:33
yeah a super super late 1st to tho.

27 Mar 2019 15:51:47
Considering where they are likely to finish its an above average second.

28 Mar 2019 11:35:20
Wait so toronto gives up a 1st and oilers 2 2nds this doesn't favor toronto it favors edmonton lolll they aren't going to get rid of lucic for 2 2nds enjoy lucic edmonton until the end of his contract hahahahaha.

28 Mar 2019 11:36:54
My bad didn't know zaitsev went to edmonton yea toronro should give up a tad more maybe add a 2nd going to vancouver and a 3rd from vancouver to Edmonton or so.

28 Mar 2019 11:37:52
Maybe Toronto adds a 3rd or 4th, who should get it?

28 Mar 2019 16:10:19
MTL4LIFE. Why would Vancouver add when WE’RE taking on a bad contract? What logic is that?! Edmonton can keep Lucic if they think we’re adding to help them get rid of the contract, like what?

28 Mar 2019 20:49:53
Settle down he said VAN would receive a 2nd and add a 3rd so they’d be going up a round. I kind like it.

29 Mar 2019 04:16:02
Van ain’t giving up nothing. I said it once and I’ll say it again, EDM can shove the Lucic contract where the sun don’t shine if they think ANYONE is going to give ANYTHING to take that contract. I don’t care if it’s *upgrading* or whatever. A late first and two seconds (especially when we’re giving up a third for one of those seconds) is not in ANY universe a good deal. Get real.

29 Mar 2019 05:02:24
Holy buddy if you don’t like the deal than okay but don’t go off if you don’t even get it. The deal I proposed was a 1st and two 2nds. He suggested VAN getting ANOTHER 2nd to make that three 2nds.

VAN should be bad for a couple years to rebuild IMO. There a team that can afford to have a bad contract for a few years. Adding 3 picks in the first two rounds is huge.

29 Mar 2019 20:53:52
I do get it, you’re the one who isn’t. An above average second (which is what Toronto’s first will be) and two other average 2nd round pics isn’t enough to entice a team to take on Lucic’s contract. Do you understand yet?

Just stop adding the Canucks to your trade proposals because clearly you know nothing about them if you think they’re going to be out of the playoffs for a couple more years. We would’ve been in the playoffs this year if it hadn’t been for injuries, we will most likely make it next year barring another mass injury bug. The Canucks are a lot better than people like to give us credit for. Take your rubbishty picks and shove ‘em.

29 Mar 2019 21:25:29
Then why in the above comment did you say “a late first and two seconds (especially when we’re giving up a third for one of those seconds) ”? If you would’ve said a late first a three seconds then you would’ve been right. So yeah pipe down.

The Nucks are you going to finish 10 points out. They don’t have a good enough roster to blame missing playoffs on injuries.
Don’t worry I didn’t make the proposal so make you happy. Clearly some other people found in interesting and believable. If you don’t think high picks will help your team then your helpless.

26 Mar 2019 15:00:57
Washington: Andrei Burakovsky

Carolina: Trevor van Riemsdyk, Lucas Wallmark.

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25 Mar 2019 22:42:10
Canucks trade: Baertschi, Goldobin, 2nd round pick 2020

Avalanche trade: Timmins, andrighetto

If Canucks could do something to get timmins... and Byram

Hughes Timmins
Byram Woo
Juolevi Stetcher

Would be a great D core

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26 Mar 2019 02:27:59
That’ll be a great d core in like 5 years when they are all proven dmen yup. As for the trade I can’t see Colorado accepting that.

26 Mar 2019 17:38:54
Colorado needs D I don't see them trading Timmons.

26 Mar 2019 20:47:27
Barrie zadorov girard Makar.

28 Mar 2019 11:23:25
Colorado hangs up.

28 Mar 2019 16:13:09
I don’t like it from Van. Beartschi can be a 60 point 2nd liner EASY if he can stay healthy, we need Seconds and Goldy is whatever. Anyways, I personally wouldn’t give up Bear and a Second for Timmons and Andri.

28 Mar 2019 23:36:47
Baertschi has never got more than 40 points in his CAREER and has never played more than 70 games lol how does he get 60 easily even if he's healthy?

25 Mar 2019 20:03:21

St Louis:
Robert Thomas
2nd in 2020

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26 Mar 2019 00:42:47
Although that is a great offer I can't see Chevy trading Laine at this time. As a 20 year old in the last 3 seasons Laine has scored the 3rd most goals in the NHL just behind Ove and Kucherov so it will be hard to get the Jets to trade him.

26 Mar 2019 02:28:16
Rather have Laine.

27 Mar 2019 18:03:49
I don’t see anything in there that would make the Jets consider this deal.

28 Mar 2019 11:24:04
Both say no.

28 Mar 2019 11:27:19
Hells no brah.

Thomas will be the next #1 center for our team. Bokk is looking to be a future 30 goal guy. Schenn is a great 2c and top 3 winger. We should resign him.

Sorry we don't want laine or his problems.

28 Mar 2019 11:34:49
Blues would rather keep Thomas, (future #1c) and Schenn (top 3 winger or #2c) Bokk future top 6 winger and the pick.

Sorry Laine wants to play fortnite to much.

28 Mar 2019 19:35:57
Mr colt in other threads you rip kappy and sandin. Ecause they don't have enough to show that they are good as projected but then blues prospects are all studs even though they have done rubbish. I don't think bokk will stay around to long I think he a buster.

29 Mar 2019 03:21:47
Lol Mike. Yes all Blues prospects are studs whether proven or not. Other teams prospects must prove their worth to the Russian tank/ Colt/ Redwing.

29 Mar 2019 17:43:57
Leafs 17 your just mad cause you didn't get parayko or petro.

Thomas is 19 year old rookie
8 goals 22 assists 30 points in 64 games. Has been playing center and winger is fast and amazing.

Bokk as a 19 year old in the highest Swedish elite league has
8 goals 15 assists 23 points in 47 games. That's good for a young rookie.

Schenn is amazing.

Enough said laine has issues and is not a center which is a team need for blues.

Not good deal for blues.

29 Mar 2019 17:51:47
Mike let me address your response. Kappy is a great young speedy winger. He started out hot and cooled off. He defiantly has potential to be better currently he is 20 goal 40+ pt player. Nothing wrong with that at all. Sandin looks to be top 4 nothing wrong with that. The reason i made reference to these two is because you wanted Petro or parayko. One is top 10 elite dman. the other is top pairing dman both are RHD wich are a position that is highly sought after. Kappy and sanding alone are not enough for either player. On top of that. Blues had 3 highly toted top 4 dmen who scored hella points in junior and NCAA. Jordan Schmaltz, Vince Dunn, jake Wallman. After 2-3 years only one of them made the NHL. The other two just never made the Jump. That happens that's called the NHL. So to sit here and say i dog your prospects and tote mine is wrong

I meerely stated that i would rather keep my future #1center. who at 19 has 8G 30pts in 64 games.

Bokk is also performing extremly well in the elite league.

Schenn is amazing. So no thanks.

30 Mar 2019 02:23:41
You’re so full of it tank. You were talking about Schmaltz and Wallman just the same as all the other prospects. I was the only person on this site defending you for a long time while every single person called you out. How quickly you forget. Maybe if you stuck to one username instead of hiding, you’d be able to keep track. Changing your username and hiding because people were picking on you shows your true character. Keep up the bias bs!

30 Mar 2019 02:32:06
Yes I would like Petro or Parayko but take it easy. Parayko’s 27 points is not necessarily tearing up the league. If he was left handed nobody would even talk about him, other than yourself.

30 Mar 2019 02:40:24
Schenn has 49 pts in 67 games and is amazing. Take a look at some of the leafs stats and let me know whi’s Amazing on the leafs please. Looking forward to hearing back from you.

30 Mar 2019 22:32:38
Leafs parayko is a defenseman first something your team truly needs. He has had 30+ point seasons ever year. He has played the #1 role for stretches last two years when petro was injured. Would it be nice if he got more points yes, but I am perfectly fine with his advanced stats and stopping other teams from scoring.

31 Mar 2019 16:17:20
I knew you’d say that Colt. When talking shut down defenseman, never once have I heard Parayko’s name. I’m not going to argue with you because it’s a no win situation. All I said was Mike nailed it, you think every St. Louis prospect is a stud while other teams prospects are unproven.

31 Mar 2019 23:58:24
First of all parayko is a shut down puck moving defenseman with a he'll of a shot. If he is just a so so guy then why does every team including you and yours want him. There isn't one Dman on your team besides Reilly that is better. Parayko would be the #1rhd on your team end of story. No reason to be bhurt about not getting him.

01 Apr 2019 12:40:24
With every comment you avoid addressing the fact that you think all Blues prospects are worth gold and other teams prospects remain unproven. Or the fact you’ve had 4-5 usernames. Your only defense Is that others are butt hurt. Get over yourself and the blues and address the things people call you out on. I wish Shankar would come back to make you change your username again, lol.

25 Mar 2019 19:51:51
Winnipeg: Patrick Laine( RFA ) And Jacob Trouba ( RFA )

Buffalo: Rasmus Ristolainen,Sam Rienhart,Jake McCabe, Buff 1st 2019, Buf 1st 2020 And 2nd 2021

Winnipeg: gets rid of a player who is asking for to much for Winnipeg to afford him and they replace them with a more dynamic and more importantly cost controled dman. Risto challenges Buff for the 1PP spot and has been proven he can log more minutes then anyone in the nhl. Sam Rienhart May not be the goal scorer Laine is but he is still a very good top 6 forward who can play the Center or wing. Jake McCabe can potentially help out Winnipeg on the weaker left side. The 3 picks make sure Winnipeg builds a solid foundation under there already powerhouse team.

Buffalo: Gets the next up and coming goal scorer in the NHL with a change of scenery and more playing time I expect him to be a 60 goal guy. Jacob Trouba is exactly what the Sabres deffense needs. A solid defensive dman who can log top pairing minutes and support the generational defensive talent in Dahlin.

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25 Mar 2019 20:06:06
Big no from Buffalo

25 Mar 2019 23:05:57
Well your opinion to me personally with all do respect I personally take with a grain of salt considering your horribly lopsided proposition towards the flames posted recently involving Laine.

26 Mar 2019 00:33:52
Laine will not be traded however I do think that if Trouba hasn't signed a long term contract by the trade deadline he will be moved. At that time there will be at least a dozen teams that will offer the Jets a good package to get Trouba. At that time Chevy will see what the Jets need to improve the Jets and make the right move.

26 Mar 2019 00:48:15
I have to say no from Buffalo as well VB. I think Ristolainen Is better or at least equal to Trouba.
However, also on the Jets end of it. I wouldn't want to trade Laine. adding Reinhart and the picks are good. but. jus seem like both team have a lot to lose.
Good post though. its interesting.

26 Mar 2019 02:30:04
Why would Winnipeg make this trade though. They are in win now mode and I see a clear decline here, they don’t need the picks they need to go for the cup now as they are contenders.

26 Mar 2019 05:56:44
Winnipeg would do it because they’d save a ton of cap space. I’d say with contracts and this season the players are having drop at least two of the picks.

26 Mar 2019 14:53:26
McJesus is right Winnipeg wouldn't want first round picks, if they clear cap it'd likely be for more cost controlled players to help their Stanley Cup push.

26 Mar 2019 19:52:33
Well also a big point of it from a Winnipeg POV is that they save a ton of cap space. While Laine clearly has a ton Of value it’s being compensated In this trade. Why I personally believe it’d be beneficial for the Jets to trade Laine?

A- Jets save a ton of cap space.
B-Laine has struggled and yet the Jets are still one of the best in the game.
C-Laine gets almost no even strength playing time on the Jets
D-He Is high profile player that obviously wants to be the go to guy and clearly he is not on the Jets with Wheeler taking his spot on the 1st line.
E-The value they get in trading Laine would be huge.

I think this makes both teams better now and in the future.

27 Mar 2019 15:06:56
A- they save cap space during their win now time. They have badish contracts they can move.
B- ya he's struggled and he's been a great playmaker of late.
C- ya he gets no minutes essentially just sits in the press box. Laine is on the second line his minutes are fine. He's 20 getting experience on the second line
D- where has it ever been said he wants to be the go to guy.
E- they get huge value keeping him.

27 Mar 2019 18:00:00
A - You don’t create cap space by trading away top end players. The Jets would be better keeping Laine and moving bottom 6 guys if they want space.

B - Laine has struggled, so there is no reason to trade him for an inferior return. Better off keeping him and letting him return to normal.

C - Shows you don’t watch the Jets.

D - Nothing like that has ever been mentioned.

E - The value of keeping Laine is greater than anything in this offer.

F - The Jets are also giving up Trouba in this deal and not being adequately compensated for his addition.

27 Mar 2019 20:49:19
A “great playmaker” I watch the jets and he is nothing close to a Elite playmaker like Getzlaf/ Backstrom/ Bergeron etc let alone “ great “ like Crosby or Gretzky playmaking wise.

Trouba And Liane will sign for most likely a combined 20 million. Jets don’t have 10 million to dump.

Risto is better then Trouba and the rest is for Laine.

Obviously Laine is the most valuable peice in the offer like what? Do you not know how trades work?

He averages a little over 15 min a night where as Mathews averages about 20.

27 Mar 2019 21:11:45
Oh my gosh Matthews averages 5 more a night. Your point being? He's not Matthews.
I said as of late. Meaning he hasn't always been a great playmaker and will likely not continue with this. He's a shooter.
Where are you getting 20 million. You've just made up a number. Is this basing Laine at 11 trouba at 9? Neither of which will happen.

27 Mar 2019 22:31:46
Well Vbb, we all knew you were terrible at player evaluations, but it also appears you are terrible at contract values as well. Kyle Dumbass might give out contacts like that (see Nylander), but not Chevy.

Risto is a huge step down from Trouba and the rest of the offer doesn't make up for that loss and also giving up Laine. So, it was just a bad offer that resulted in the Jets downgrading two players drastically to save cap space.

28 Mar 2019 11:22:38
Honestly before seing yha 3 first rd pick I togujt it was clost. Take 2 first of and it's a deal think.

28 Mar 2019 11:25:02
Honestly, I think that’s too much for Laine. Maybe I’m crazy but I think Risto, McCabe and Reinhart = Laine and Trouba. Maybe Buff adds a second, but definitely not two firsts.

I get it, Laine is a beast, potential 60 goal guy and all that, but is it really worth it to give up so much just for him? I don’t think so.

28 Mar 2019 11:25:55
Value isn't off but it doenst do much for winnipeg. I think winnipeg would ask for both nylander and mittelstad for laine.

28 Mar 2019 11:32:19
If anything Jets trade Blake Wheeler not Laine. You don't trade a 21 year old superstar to give more space to a 32 year old superstar on the decline.

25 Mar 2019 17:32:15
Not sure if anyone has seen Kovalchuk's comments criticizing Willie Desjardins scratching him and with a re-tool needed in LA not sure if there's any hopeful playoff teams wanting to take on that $$ this offseason.

Dallas: Jason Dickinson, Blake Comeau, 5th 2019
LA: Ilya Kovalchuk (25%) retained.

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25 Mar 2019 19:27:28
Kovalchuck should jus quit again and go back to KHL. I wouldn't want him on my team. maybe 5 or 6 years ago, when his talent was worth the headaches of his selfishness .

25 Mar 2019 19:29:31
Would be very good move for Dallas Kovy is still a PPG player in the right situation if you’ve seen him play 20 games you’d understand. + the Kovy/ Radulov connection.

26 Mar 2019 00:50:13
I dunno VB. ya, maybe he can play with Dallas. I don't see PPG however. at best I see 25 goals and 15 to 20 assist. Not bad for a guy 35+ .
I thinks he's a bit of a headache.

26 Mar 2019 19:54:02
I have to strongly disagree agree but this years production paints a picture that gives your statement credibility.

25 Mar 2019 16:46:13
Winnipeg Jets - Patrik Laine
Calgary Flames - Sam Bennett + Michael Frolik (50% Retained Salary) + Oliver Kylington + 1st-Round Pick

J.Gaudreau - S.Monahan - E.Lindholm
M.Tkachuk - M.Backlund - P.Laine
J.Neal - M.Jankowski - A.Czarnik
A.Mangiapane - D.Ryan - G.Hathaway

M.Giordano - T.Brodie
N.Hanifin - T.Hamonic
O.Fantenberg - R.Andersson

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25 Mar 2019 18:08:11
There is no way the Jets will trade Laine for that package which includes a player the Jets didn't re-sign three years ago.

25 Mar 2019 19:30:43
Huge no from the jets although I think a change of scenery would benefit Laine and Jets cap situation.

26 Mar 2019 02:30:40
Wow that’s an easy no from Jets wow wow.

23 Mar 2019 21:22:08
Islanders Trade
6th Round Pick 2019

Toronto Trades
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)

This is the type of Trade the Leafs will have to make this off season, obviously with the Draft Picks it's a Draft Day Trade.
Uncle Lou knows both Kapanen and Zaitsev so see a match here, adding Pulock is a good move for the Leafs also plus getting rid of Zaitsev's Contract helps the Cap as well, as for replacing Kapanen with what Bracco has done in the AHL this year he is the obvious replacement.

Thoughts ?

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24 Mar 2019 01:07:59
My thoughts are that pulock has way more value then kapenen and what you add from the leafs has very little to no value.

24 Mar 2019 14:32:01
I wouldn’t say way more value.

24 Mar 2019 18:20:05
I would and I'll use logic that some of you guys are quick to point out when comparing players. Right shot dmen have mure value then wingers right? So when a top pair rhd is compared to a 2nd/ 3rd line winger then that means the dman has way more value. Right?

24 Mar 2019 21:30:48
Pulock definitely carries more value than Kapanen, like habby said with his position and handness, but I very much am a fan of Kapanen and if he were to be traded he could be a big piece in acquiring a good rhd.

25 Mar 2019 01:53:04
I like kapenen too but you would have to add something good with him to get pulock.

25 Mar 2019 12:09:04
He’s not a top pairing dman on a good defensive team like Nashville.

25 Mar 2019 13:36:25
But he would be on the leafs and is still a solid top 4 d-man.

25 Mar 2019 14:47:31
@vbbb it could be argued that Morgan Reilly is not a top pair dman in Nashville what's your point? Fact is pulock is the number 1 dman on a team that's still in a battle for 1st place in their division and he's still developing.

25 Mar 2019 15:50:26
Habby again with the fax 👍🏻.

25 Mar 2019 16:42:31
Pulock is worth at least twice Kappy. 1 40 ish point season for Kappy on a team with 3 real solid centers dosnt mean he worth a 23 year old RHD who plays with an below average defensemen yet still manage to be a solid defensive defensemen and get 30+ point at the same time. You better package Lilijegreen with Kappy if you want to make an offer for Pulock and even then Isles prob keeps Pulock.

25 Mar 2019 16:43:14
In this trade Isles are taking a cap dump back in Zaitsev wich would take a 2nd and B prospect to dump him. But Pulock had about twice the value of Kappy so its ridiculous that Isles would be giving a 6th and a cap dump to only get a 4th as compensation.

25 Mar 2019 17:00:16
Leafs do need a defenceman but Pulock isn't what there looking for, as seen by the Muzzin trade theyd want a developed and experienced Dman.

23 Mar 2019 17:50:13
With the Cap crunch to hit the Leafs I see there are 6 players in my view that will have to go, I don't see them resigning Gardiner, Hainsey or Ennis and see them trading Kapanen, CBrown and Zaitsev.
Zaitsev will have to be a Cap dump on a Team with lots of Cap Space with probably a Prospect added for a mid to later Draft Pick.
I do have one Trade Proposal that I could see happening and this is it.

Carolina Trades
6th Round Pick 2019 (Flames Pick)

Toronto Trades
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)

Hurricanes get some much needed RWing depth with Kapanen being the key and see him as a great fit with Aho, CBrown on there 3rd or 4th line depending if JWilliams resigns and with there great Prospect Pool on Defense they can afford to move Pesce.

For Toronto this is a Trade they will have to make for Cap reasons and adding at least a Top 4 Defenceman with a good Cap hit will be worth it.

Thoughts ?

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25 Mar 2019 16:48:10
Pinball it's either your overvaluing Kapanen or Brown because this is not even clost. Add Lilijegreen, Bracco, 2rd and its closer.

25 Mar 2019 17:03:50
Its a good base but i agree with BoomBoom, Carolina will likely want young forwards back so Bracco, Johnsson, etc. are potential pieces that would need to be added.

28 Mar 2019 11:21:59
Know your facts #thrasher69
Kapanen 22 years old
CBrown 25 years old
What do you consider young?
If anything the Leafs are robbed here it's like trading Kadri for DHamilton and BMcGinn if it where the Caine's needing Cap Space and the Leafs getting a 4th Round Pick for a 6th Round Pick.
Leafs will have to do this for Cap reasons not for fair Trade value.

22 Mar 2019 21:28:47
Toronto Maple Leafs - Kasperi Kapanen + Rasmus Sandin
St Louis Blues - Colton Parayko

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22 Mar 2019 22:53:58
hahahaha oh man.

24 Mar 2019 05:49:37
Whats the problem buddy?

24 Mar 2019 18:08:21
I would that is a decent trade but stl would have to know what it's gunna cost to sign kappy.

24 Mar 2019 18:10:55
He’s an oilers fan, that’s the problem. Rieder and Bear for Parayko would be a better return in his eyes. NotDelusional2, are you FairTrade4All or would you even admitnit if you were?

24 Mar 2019 21:32:07
Leafs why are you being a little cry baby he literally just said oh man. Where is the issue in that lol.

25 Mar 2019 03:21:45
Come up with your own name for me McJ, yupp already calls me that. Do to think the hahahah oh man was referring to it being way too much for Parayko? I doubt it. Most of us don’t need a full paragraph to understand what someone is saying. Get your head out of your a** McJ. It is decent value like the original poster thought, Mike and myself. Delusional does not see value in leaf players which is what I was getting at. If you Oiler fans are going to resort to name calling, maybe you should find a site where you can call each other names and talk about how much value Oiler players have.

25 Mar 2019 06:11:08
Kapanen underrated asf, and this site overrates Pesce, Parayko. When in reality that would easily get parayko

25 Mar 2019 16:45:32
Why would blues do this. Kappy had a hot start and now is barely 20 goal 50 or player. Sandin is unproven. You would have to add a 1st to get fair value and even then the blues say no.

25 Mar 2019 16:48:59
The dosnt come clost to getting Parayko. Kappy has actually been overrated on this website since he's hit the 30 point mark this year. Ya he's having a good season but teams look with who he's playing and right away they know hell never be a 60+ point player. More like a solid 40+ point guy.

25 Mar 2019 16:49:41
Seriously that would get you parayko. No way kappy is 20goal 50pt guy. Had great start and tappered off. Sandin is unproven. For a too pairing rhd. Nope you would have to add a 1st as well and blues still don't do it. It's funny how it's either nylander or kappy being offered and which ever one is performing worse at the time.

26 Mar 2019 19:07:53
I was literally saying oh man because it was another parayko proposal lol and we all know how those end up. but leafs17 ya wtf is your deal buddy chill out why are you throwing a fit i legit said 3 words.


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