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23 Jul 2018 20:06:26
Colorado trades: Barrie

Toronto trades: Nylander, 2nd round pick

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23 Jul 2018 21:06:46
I’m confused why Toronto is adding. Toronto is giving the younger more dynamic player for someone who they don’t need they already have two 1 dimensional offensive dman in Gardiner/ Rielly. Nylander is likely a PPG player in the near future. Would rather Make a package of Brown, Lilijgren and 1st 2019 . Also would much rather go after Eric Johnson.

23 Jul 2018 21:33:22
I agree that Toronto shouldn’t be adding.

23 Jul 2018 21:50:34
Barrie isn’t the exact player I’d want. So I wouldn’t trade a Player like Nylander for him. Right age and value probably. Just need someone better in our zone to justify the deal.

23 Jul 2018 23:47:33
The perfect dman for the leafs would be Erik Johnson, Jacob Trouba, Brett Pesce, Shea Webber, Matt Nichusknen or Colten Paryanko if I were the leafs the only way I’d be willing to consider including Nylander are for one of the above + ( Burns, Doughty, Karlsson, Subban, ETC ) stars that obviously wouldn’t be available.

24 Jul 2018 05:11:17
Lol all those dman you named are so different from each other tho.

24 Jul 2018 15:17:24
Value wise yes they’re different but role wise no they’d fill the role perfectly beside Rielly on the 1st pair. In the perfect world I’d like to see the leafs have 2 DFD like Orlov-Nichusknen do be high minute munching dman and get harsh defensive zone starts and have Rielly getting majority of the offensive zone starts. Unless you get the opportunity to role Rielly-Weber/ Paryanko of course.

24 Jul 2018 22:40:29
The leafs have to trade Nylander or marner to upgrade their D otherwise Tampa will just waist away all tavares good years Because Toronto will not beat them anytime soon in my opinion. And if Tampa gets Karlsson without giving up point its over and I’m a panthers fan.

22 Jul 2018 17:12:35
WPG: Trouba
TOR: Liljegren, 1st Round 2019

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22 Jul 2018 18:05:39
If the Jets can't sign Trouba long term for $6 mil or less this is a trade is one that they may do. They get a future right shot d-man who could be very good and a high 1st rounder. Would the Leafs want to give up a bit of their future for a player who would be their top right shot d-man but a costly one? The question is would the Leafs make this trade? Next year they will have over $40 mil tied up in 5 players and adding a $7 mil per year Trouba would really put them in cap problems.

22 Jul 2018 18:48:59
A Trouba deal? That’s rare to see AJ.

22 Jul 2018 19:25:29
I’d take this for sure from a leafs POV.

22 Jul 2018 20:11:32
Trouba got 5.5 shmillion for 1 year.

22 Jul 2018 20:36:01
thts a reasonable trade I think. I would want to be sure he isn’t going to pull the same crap though and be a difficult signing. 1year $5.5 mill is on the right price range but wouldn’t trade liljegren and a 1st for one year of a guy that’s going to demand too much again next year.

22 Jul 2018 21:21:38
I think we'll all have to revisit this trade discussion next summer. The logical thing for the Jets to do now is hang on to Trouba for next year's playoff run and see where it goes next summer.

23 Jul 2018 01:12:11
After Winnipeg wins the cup, Trouba will think he’s worth 10 million next summer.

23 Jul 2018 07:24:19
I would not from leafs POV. And why would the leafs 1st be high islandjet it will be late first unless something crazy happens. I say I wouldn’t move that package because you have to keep your young assets when you are going to having high paid players and 7 mill for Trouba is to much I feel he misses to many games and just don’t think he is worth that package.

23 Jul 2018 15:38:48
The pick will be no lower then it was last year I could see the leafs making the conference finals. Don’t think they’re better then Pittsburgh or Tampa with Karlsson.

23 Jul 2018 20:48:40
Islandjet. you make me laugh. You mention torontos cap trouble yet fail to mention the jets. With all the players they need to sign you can say good bye to a few of them. They are far worse off than toronto.

22 Jul 2018 03:50:46
THREE WAY TRADE Proposal:

Flames - TJ Brodie
Canucks - Chris Tanev
Leafs - 1st-Round Pick + Travis Dermott + Kasperi Kapanen + Connor Brown

Breakdown -

Flames - 1st-Round Pick + Kasperi Kapanen

Canucks - Connor Brown + Travis Dermott

Leafs - TJ Brodie + Chris Tanev


TJ Brodie - Morgan Rielly
Jake Gardiner - Chris Tanev
Nikita Zaitsev - Connor Carrick

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22 Jul 2018 06:03:30
No thanks. Brown, dermott and kapanen combined make what Tanev makes. I would rather find out what dermott is and keep the cheap assets.

22 Jul 2018 06:22:13
That's not a 3 way trade proposal it's 2 separate trades.

22 Jul 2018 13:04:43
Genuinelly, i don't think its that bad of a trade. Maybe VAncouver wants a tad more, but I think CGY gets what they want and TOR gets two solid dmen.

My only concern is that I think in terms of TOR’s cap situation, we woukdnt be able to keep both Brodie and Tanev. I’d rather go for one than both, imo.

22 Jul 2018 16:26:50
Good trade for Calgary imo.

22 Jul 2018 16:49:04
I hope the leafs go into the season as is. Like Jim said, I’d like to see a full season of Dermott and also see if Liljegren becomes a top 4. Next year is when they have to decide who’s getting paid and who’s getting traded. Maybe sign Bieksa or Hamhuis for a year, maybe both. They have money this year for one year signings and those 2 are still serviceable veterans IMO.

22 Jul 2018 20:43:05
Yeah. I watched a lot of marlies through the playoffs this year and I’d be shocked if Liljegren makes he leafs this year. Was the youngest player in the AHL this season and looked really good at times, but I don’t think he looked confident enough in the AHL to be a full time guy this season. Full season with no dermott and maybe no Holl down there could let him be the go to guy for the marlies and really grow.

I would have liked to see Rielly, Gardiner, zaitsev, dermott, carrick, ozighanov and for them to sign orpik for a year after his buyout. We still have $25 mill cap space for this one year. Give him $4-5 mill even, who cares. More than he’s worth but be a nice addition.

22 Jul 2018 21:27:46
25mil cap space?

22 Jul 2018 23:45:00
Yes Habby. Well $24,616,664, (sorry for exaggerating) with only Nylander to sign this season. Obviously we can go crazy with it because it needs to be there next season for Matthews and Marner, but to pay a decent upgrade on D on a one year deal. He’s already being paid by Avs for his buyout. If we give him $4 mill he will have a chance to win again and actually makes a lot more than he did last season.

22 Jul 2018 23:48:34
Orpik would be a nice addition too. Any one of those veteran d man would work. I definitely didn’t think Liljegren would be ready this year.

23 Jul 2018 00:01:40
NHLnumbers shows $24+ But missed a cpl small signings.
Cap friendly shows $14.7mill. But still has Horton on active roster. So his $5.3 goes on LTIR like every other year and we have $20 mill cap space.

23 Jul 2018 03:05:36
Ya habby, but they still have to sign nylander.

22 Jul 2018 00:02:52
To Philly; 67

To Mtrl; Simmonds, Raffl, sec round pic

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22 Jul 2018 14:32:21
Why do people on here think that Pacioretty is some type of superstar?

Pacioretty: 2017-2018 17G 20A 37P -16, $4.5MM UFA 2019, age 29
Simmonds: 2017-2018 24G 22A 46P -16, $3.975MM UFA 2019, age 29

Both have a great history of scoring goals but Simmonds is great in the locker room, heart and soul kinda guy (beloved in Philly), will want a raise but not have a chip on his shoulder like Patches, had a better last season, and is cheaper on this contract and probably the next one too.

Keep your baby, Habs fans.

22 Jul 2018 15:34:04
See I’m a habs fan I’ve watched a lot of patch, I don’t see how he is a “baby” to some people. He goes into the corners and battles hard, just because he’s 6’2 and doesn’t try to bulldoze his way through people doesn’t mean he’s a “baby”. Just look at big Joe he rarely runs people over is he a baby?

22 Jul 2018 16:29:03
This is the first time iv ever seen somebody use a number referring to a player before oooo.

22 Jul 2018 19:21:33
Pacioretty is captain man I'm sure he's not a locker room trouble.

22 Jul 2018 20:48:39
Mike Richards was captain in philly and pronger came in as a more seasoned, proven leader and the dressing room was split a year later. That wasn’t a secret.

That situation is pretty similar to patches and Weber. Not saying it’s for sure the same thing, but also wouldn’t say just because he’s captain there can’t be trouble. I think there’s been a lot of smoke around patches being traded and they have moved out other players that have been off ice issues recently. Don’t think it’s a big stretch to think there could be some guys not getting along with him there.

22 Jul 2018 21:13:41
We'll they voted him in as captain so if there is a problem they can all blame themselves. but we can only assume cause we are not in the room. My point was to the guy who said simmonds is great in the room. Maybe he's trouble too by your logic. but as it stands patch is a captain so that argument is pretty stupid imo.

22 Jul 2018 23:32:58
I don’t think they “voted” patches to be captain lol they aren’t 8 year olds, the management and coaching staff pick captains haha but still just bcuz you’re captain doesn’t mean you can’t cause trouble but I’m sure he’s a good locker room guy.

22 Jul 2018 23:49:14
It’s a bad trade. Why trade Simmonds + to get patches? Same age, same position, same term left, patches has slightly higher salary and Simmonds has had success in philly and plays there game. Makes no sense to pay extra assets.

23 Jul 2018 05:19:01
@mcjesus, they did actually vote him captain! Lol I remember hearing it at the time and even kypreos on sportsnet made the same joke. “Why is an NHL team being run like peewee houseleague? ”

P. K. subban announces his $10 mill hospital donation the day before they voted (convenient lol) and when he wasn’t voted captain they said that was a big turning point for him there.

23 Jul 2018 06:11:22
Hahahahaha no way that’s crazyy haha.

23 Jul 2018 07:21:30
CTC55: I call him a baby not for his on ice play, but for all of the drama associated with that guy (contract demands, captaincy etc) . I like skilled finesse players the same as hard hitting players, so that has no bearing on my opinion of him as a player. Frankly, my misgivings with some elements of the Canadiens aside, Habs fans deserve much better than the drama-filled tire fire that is that franchise.

23 Jul 2018 14:49:44
I think there’s some guys that just command respect and have to be the leader. That guy to me is Shea Weber. When he was 27 years old surrounded by other NHL players 18-40 years old he still looks and acts like a man among boys. When they made the subban trade for him, I thought he should have been named captain, or this paccioretty being scapegoated was inevitable. Not that Patches wasn’t doing a good job, but something about Weber tells me the guy would be the alpha in a room with chuck Norris and Steven Segal. I watched some jets coverage talking about Blake wheeler and they were saying they all thought Ladd was a great captain till he left and Wheeler took over. Wheeler is another level. I think habs fans (not you Habby) but others I’ve talked to, management and ownership are ready for a new leader.

23 Jul 2018 20:58:56
@ Eazy E, Fair point on the drama but IMO he's behaved reasonable. It's the same with all contracts you try to get the best you can out of it, he hasn't said anything disrespectful towards the media.

Sorry for kinda pointing you out it's just I've seen so many people (on this site and on others) say he's a big baby that dives once he is touched and say he's not worth a 2nd RD pick. I just think people forget that they aren't just things they're people too and deserve some respect.

21 Jul 2018 22:31:45
To TOR:
Jacob Trouba

To WPG:
Nazem Kadri
Andrew Nielsen
2018 1st Round Pick

WPG really shores up their center depth as well as picks up a few prospects and TOR finally gets that solid top 4 right handed D-man they're after. Tavares signing makes this a viable option for the Leafs.

Thoughts?

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21 Jul 2018 22:58:49
I’d say no from Toronto. Never bad to have depth at center and I don’t think Trouba is worth all that. Also leafs won’t be able to support his demands of 7 mil/ year. Think Toronto should go for somebody else.

21 Jul 2018 23:19:56
Kadri=Nylander=Trouba ( on good contract)

21 Jul 2018 23:43:53
Kadri is a good player, I personally don't see him as a fit on our second line. Laine and Ehlers need a slick, playmaking center like Stastny. Kadri strikes me as more of a shooter.

22 Jul 2018 02:55:49
memarcusjoe the Jets already have the perfect fit between Laine and Ehlers, its Jack Roslovic. Now its up to Maurice not to foolishly start the season with Little between Ehlers and Laine and have Roslovic on the 3rd line as a winger, or as the 4th line center.

22 Jul 2018 05:07:34
Lol Mcjesus, do you not know how arbitration works? You're posting on every Trouba trade "no he's asking for 7Mil".

22 Jul 2018 06:06:27
Keep Kadri and his 30+ goals for $4.5 mill all day long. Jets need a guy like Paul statsny. A guy like Paul statsny just needed Vegas tho lol.

22 Jul 2018 06:07:45
@islandjet, I agree, I'd like to see Roslovic get a shot there. I just not sure Maurice will put 3 young guys on a line together.

22 Jul 2018 16:34:18
Uglyguybabes this is the first post iv said that lol.

23 Jul 2018 06:11:37
Changing his name from hotguybabes to uglyguybabes. nice.

23 Jul 2018 17:40:50
Easy e. couple of things

Pacioretty last 5 yrs= 158 goals
Simmonds last 5 yrs= 144 goals

How was simmonds in dressing room when you played for the flyers? Oh wait. you didnt.

23 Jul 2018 18:06:11
Good call balsam. But what do you think about Kadri/ Nielsen for Trouba?!?

21 Jul 2018 16:05:39
MTL - Max Pacioretty (re-signed), Schlemko, 2nd round pick

MIN - Brodin, Coyle

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21 Jul 2018 19:42:49
Yah this is a big no from Minnesota. Brodin>1 year of Patches.

21 Jul 2018 20:06:26
He just said resigned why would it be 1 year?

21 Jul 2018 21:21:59
Probably would have to be a better price than schlemko. Maybe Scherbak or lehkonen.

21 Jul 2018 23:21:58
Even resigned that’s still a no from Minnesota. Brodin is extremely underrated obviously.

23 Jul 2018 15:55:53
How can you be "extremely underrated, obviously. "? If it is obvious what he is worth, wouldn't he be rated appropriately? Maybe not extremely appropriately, but possibly, relatively accurately - if it is obvious.
Joking aside, I'd take it from Montreal - I think Miny would decline but not far off. Depends on what patches resigns for to be honest, i think that would really determine what the other pieces would be going back.

21 Jul 2018 09:21:46
Two Anaheim trades making both teams better (IMO)

Trade 1:
CBJ - Panarin
ANA - Silfverberg, Ritchie, Welinski, Conditional 3rd (2nd if Panarin signs extension with ANA)

Trade 2:
MTL - Pacioretty
ANA - Silfverberg, Pettersson, Conditional 3rd (2nd if extension is signed)

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21 Jul 2018 15:02:20
Huge no from Columbus and Montreal.

21 Jul 2018 15:25:45
Maybe from Montreal but defiant no from Columbus.

21 Jul 2018 21:30:54
Pacioretty: 2017-2018 17G 20A 37P -16, $4.5MM UFA 2019, age 29
Silfverberg: 2017-2018 18G 27A 45P E, $3.75MM UFA 2019, age 27

Why would Anaheim even add to a straight swap?

Pacioretty has onerous contract demands ($8MM x 8 years) . He has a chip on his shoulder for signing a team friendly contract with Montreal and wants his next contract to pay back some of the value he gave away on his last one. I wouldn't touch that baby with a 10 foot pole or at best view him as a rental.

PS If you tell me to look back at his previous years, fine. I see his stats. But players are paid for future performance, not past performance, and Pacioretty's terrible season last year killed his trade value. If you're still unconvinced, you can have Seabrook.

22 Jul 2018 07:47:03
Yeah, def not a deal MTL says no to.

23 Jul 2018 04:23:35
no from columbus on first
no from anaheim on second.

21 Jul 2018 03:45:40
Leafs: Rielly
Oilers: Draisaitl

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21 Jul 2018 05:33:42
why would leafs do that . give up their one good D for a Center when they have Mathews, Tavares, Kadri .

21 Jul 2018 05:50:36
I’m going to be honest here Drais is great and has more value then Rielly but no way leafs make this trade Rielly is the only bright spot in there Dcore and Peter. C is known for making questionable trades so “maybe” if Rielly was a RHD he’d accept it but the fact is the oilers are set at the left side.

21 Jul 2018 06:19:14
Leafs have no need for drat and need Reilly way way more.

21 Jul 2018 08:11:55
Great idea, as we all know the Leafs could really use their surplus of great defenseman and trade for the elite C they're desparetly lacking.

21 Jul 2018 15:34:37
Biasjoe is just trying to see how we value our own teams players. It looks like vbb’s and myself know that Draisaitl has more value. That’s crazy eh joe, considering we’re leaf fans? Do you see how that works? I am judging a player by their true value, not what team they play for.

21 Jul 2018 16:04:50
Different situation leafs pull the trigger right away. But as said above, to trade your best Dman for a guy going to be 3rd centre or an $8.5 mill winger makes zero sense. Just stick to that Winnipeg koolaid, joe.

21 Jul 2018 17:05:04
Every Leaf Fan knows Drais>Rielly in value. But unlike the Jets, the Leafs have a need for Defense, as everyone knows, so we’d certainly not trade our best dman for another centre.

22 Jul 2018 22:54:42
pretty sure the leafs do this in a heartbeat. it wouldn't be that hard to flip drai or another asset for a very solid dman.

just a value game at this point. no idea why edm would do this.

21 Jul 2018 01:11:55
CBJ: Panarin (sign-and-trade)

LA: Toffoli, Vilardi, 2019 2nd.

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21 Jul 2018 05:52:00
I posted that same trade but with a lottery protected 1st. Good deal imo.

21 Jul 2018 00:11:32
Leafs: Rielly
Oilers: Draisaitl.

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