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28 Nov 2018 20:17:02
Here's one that doesn't include Nylander.

Jets trade Trouba, Perreault, Copp and Lowry

Flyers Trade Provorov & Patrick.

The Jets get two young players that can be slowly integrated into their lineup.
The Flyers looking to get tougher get 2 young tough players, a #1 right shot d-man they have wanted for years and a reliable veteran that knows what it takes to win. The only fear for the Jets is that Patrick becomes another RNH, tons of potential but plays too soft.

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28 Nov 2018 20:27:04
Im sorry but taht maybe only gets Provorov. Trouba with all his contract issues and ethic issues and age compared to Prov is obvs worth less (Prov is going to be one of the best dman of the future imo), Perraulet doesn't even factor into this equation all that much (30-40 point guy whos okder on a big contract), Copp is a capped our third liner and Lowry is just a 3C.

28 Nov 2018 21:40:13
Trouba and Provorov might be close in value, but I don't think the Flyers would be ready to give up on Patrick yet. The Jets would need to take out Perreault and Copp and add Ves or other prospects to Philly's liking if they were going after Patrick.

28 Nov 2018 23:08:27
Trouba is not close to Provorov. Give me Provorov anyday.

28 Nov 2018 23:54:14
I agree with both Topshelf and Memarcus as this trade would really have a poor chance of happening. However I heard that Philly wasn't happy with Patricks progress and his soft style of play. They also wanted tougher and grittier players and have desperately wanted Trouba for a couple of years. I think the Jets need to shake up their team and I just threw this trade out as I thought it might answer needs both teams have.

29 Nov 2018 01:22:18
Talk about extreme overpayment coming from Philly lol.

29 Nov 2018 02:36:57
Prov>>>>that whole package that guy will be a star.

29 Nov 2018 04:05:19
I think you have to add comrie at least.

28 Nov 2018 20:14:52
Columbus: Sergei Bobrovsky
Pittsburgh: Matt Murray + Daniel Sprong + 2nd round pick

Too much? Not enough? Who would add and what?

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28 Nov 2018 20:27:27
Its not too bad imp, but CBJ/ PIT will never do that. Too much hatred between them.

28 Nov 2018 21:14:38
Where is Pittsburgh going to get the 10.5 million cap space for bobrovsky?

28 Nov 2018 21:47:09
I don’t believe he gets 10.5. 9-9.5 is my guess. Still tough for pens to do with no one making real money going the other way. What about if CBJ trades panarin somewhere else and gets Kessel as a winger replacement in a deal for Bobrovsky? Would atleast be some money leaving Pitts too.

28 Nov 2018 22:23:47
so Unbiased Jim, would you be then suggesting sending kessel back instead of sprong? maybe adding a pick or prospect back to balance the value?

29 Nov 2018 03:02:05
No chance Pittsburgh sending Kessel out. The guy’s been nothing short of outstanding for Pittsburgh, who gets great value for $6.8. That’s got to be one of the best trades for both teams I’ve ever seen.

29 Nov 2018 04:41:07
Pens are trying to milk the last drops out of the Crosby/ Malkin era. Obviously Kessel is a big part of that but if the goaltending isn’t up to par, you have to give to get. Kessel is in the rumours of being traded every offseason. I’m not saying they would do it, but to get a goalie of bobrovskys quality and price tag, a really good piece with a fairly hefty salary has to leave. It’s a logical swap. I don’t think it would happen, but more likely and financially possible than guys that make no money going the other way.

28 Nov 2018 18:23:30
Toronto: William Nylander
Chicago: Connor Murphy, Alex Fortin, Dennis Gilbert

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28 Nov 2018 20:17:02
Salary cap. As much as i'd love to have Willy in chicago, the cost to sign him would be too much without taking a salary back.

28 Nov 2018 21:10:44
William Nylander : 4 yrs at 7 million
Connor murphy : 4 yrs at 3.85 plus fortin and Gilbert is about 5.6 million.
Gives Toronto 1.4 extra cap space for marner and matthews.
Chicago loses 1.4 of 3.2 cap space leaving 1.8 approx.

Chicago trades or dumps Kruger, manning, rutta, kunitz for 8.28 million plus the 1.8 for over 10 million for next year.

No cap issues here so far. Biggest issue is Toronto might want bigger names or better prospects.

28 Nov 2018 21:38:11
so DaKeGa, you're saying we'd need to essentially trade out 7 players overall, to be able to resign one player long term, and from what i've read and heard online willy is looking for 8+. pretty sure if we were looking at 6-7 the deal would be done by now.

28 Nov 2018 21:51:12
It’s just that easy to trade or dump $9 mill worth of dead weight? Lol if that’s the case, no team ever has cap problems.

28 Nov 2018 22:22:38
3 players and 1.4 cap space lands a top line winger for toews, saad line.
Kunitz won't be resigned at 40 years old next year and is only there to help mentor rookies and achieve 1000 games played. 1 million will get any player whom will fill his role on 4th line.

Kruger 2.78 next year will not be resigned opening up cap space for another player whom can be signed at 1 million to fill his role.
Rutta will not be resigned either and a Boqvist, Raddysh, or Dahlstrom can step up and take his place.

Manning can be traded for a draft pick or something also.
Chicago does not need any of these week links and all can be replaced by young bodies whom can play for a total of less than 4 million opposed to the 8.28 these bodies are signed for. With a 1.8 cap space plus 8.28 equals 10, sign 3rd, 4th liners for less than 5 of that and you still have 5 plus million for debrincat to sign or get a defensive defenseman.

That is hardly an issue to do for the blackhawks in the off season. Sikura, Highmore, Boqvist, and Dahlstrom are already in the system to replace these bodies if needed.

28 Nov 2018 22:38:35
Next Season;
Toews, Saad, Nylander
Strome, Kane, Debrincat
Sikura, Kahun, Perlini
Kampf, Johnson, Martinsen
Hayden spare

Keith, Boqvist
Seabrook, Jokiharu
Forsling, Dahlstrom
Davidson spare

Still leaves Anisimov to trade in offseason. Not an unthinkable transition.

29 Nov 2018 21:26:52
wtf are those lines? if anything i'd have this for that line up
Saad-toews-nylander
perlini-debrincat-kane
Kahun-Strome-Kampf
Sikura-Hayden-Martinsen

Keith-boqvist
Seabrook-jokiharu
Forsling-Davidson

Crawford
Forsberg.

28 Nov 2018 17:22:39
Carolina: Fleury

Mtl: Mcshane, 2rd2018, Benn

Mtl gets a young left defensemen with lots of potential Carolina gets a good center and prospect ad a pick plus a decent top 6 D at cheap price and who is a good leader in dressing room.

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28 Nov 2018 18:06:29
I like how you say “top 6 d”. There’s only 6 on a team. Where in top 6 would he be? On Carolina he would be bottom pairing. Doesn’t sound as sexy I know, but is also a more accurate portrayal.

Can’t see Benn being re-signed by Carolina. So basically they get 2nd + McShane for Fleury, which still isn’t a bad return. McShane is so young still, putting up very respectable numbers in the minors. He may work out for Carolina.

28 Nov 2018 16:54:54
Carolina Trades
Pesce

Toronto Trades
Hainsey
Holl
4th Round Pick 2019
1st Round Pick 2020

Thoughts ?

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28 Nov 2018 17:17:53
If you want Carolina’s attention you need the trade to be based around Nylander for Pesce.

28 Nov 2018 17:36:16
You won't get a top 4D without offering something of value to the other team. Your offers are always a good player from the other team, for worthless stuff from the Leafs. Other than the 1st, the offer is blech. Try a new shtick for your offers rather than the same basic trade over and over.

28 Nov 2018 18:07:48
Carolina also has no need for Hainsey, even after trading Pesce they still have the depth on defense they wouldn’t be bringing in anyone. Looking for forwards.

28 Nov 2018 18:21:52
With Slavin, H. Fleury, D. Hamilton, Faulk, TVR plus Bean and McKeown in the AHL on there Defense this is a move I think the Canes make, Hainsey played with Faulk a few yrs back and they paired well together Holl will probably be sent to the AHL and adding a 1st and 4th Round Pick adds to there future.
Leafs pickup a R. Handed shooting D. Man that would pair well with Rielly.

Thoughts?

28 Nov 2018 22:37:12
Doesn't make any sense for Carolina. They just don't need more defense.

28 Nov 2018 22:57:40
You missed DeHaan. Lol.

Carolina is stacked in defensemen. I just can’t see them taking on an aging and pending UFA in Hainsey for a young, cheap player like Pesce. The rest of what you are offering isn’t nearly enough quality.

28 Nov 2018 04:08:58
Stl
Parayko, kostin, gunnerson, 2nd 2019

Tor
Nylander, sandin, lijgren.

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28 Nov 2018 04:53:14
Blues need to add to that Colt.

28 Nov 2018 06:35:03
Like schmaltz or walman?

28 Nov 2018 11:28:26
Doubt leafs move both just make it Nylander and Liligren for Paryanko and Kostin.

28 Nov 2018 15:14:09
Also looks like TOR is running out of time with Nylander. Once December 1st comes no team is going to be willing to part with a core piece if nylander can not play till next year. Also if his cap is above 6.5 mil he will lose trade value not much, but in the cap era overpayment is not a good thing.

28 Nov 2018 15:41:07
He won’t get past dec 1st and if he did, they just wouldn’t trade him till the draft.

28 Nov 2018 16:53:36
No something of actual value needs to be addedfrom blues. Like Kyrou or Thomas.

28 Nov 2018 16:55:47
YOu do realize That Parayko is not getting trade for Nylander 1 for 1. Let along our second best forward prospect that is the 3rd youngest player in the AHL currently Adjusting from Russsian style to American

If Blues trade Parayko for nylander it would inlucde Tor best defensive prospect which neither project to be a top pairing dman. So you throw both prospects in throw in blues second best forward prospect and a few adds. Gunnerson covers the cap and is gone next year.

Parayko Gunnerson Kostin 2nrnd pick 2019 (with Parayko gone will def be a 32-36 pick which is basically a late first in this draft)

for

Nylander (8mil which is overpayment) Sandin lhD, Lijgren Rhd

If tor doesn't like it then they need to go for trouba.

28 Nov 2018 18:11:59
Liljegren isn’t projected as top pairing? That’s news to me. Last I checked he is one of the highest rated RJD prospects in the world and is doing admirably well as one of the youngest players in AHL. He looks ready to make the big league sometime this year, possibly sharing duties with Hainsey between 1st and 3rd lines, and full time next year.

28 Nov 2018 18:16:07
Thats the price that is expected. If he is what you say hold onto him . We will keep parayko.

28 Nov 2018 18:22:48
Colt, are you willing to pay Nylander 8M a year?

28 Nov 2018 18:53:13
You can keep Parayko then.

Leafs are saturated at forward. So much so that they are dominating while missing 2/ 3 of their top line. We don’t need Kostin. We need defensive prospects/ players. Trading away a combined 24 + years of Nylander, Sandin, Liljegren for 4 years of Parayko, a possible top 9 forward prospect player, and a 2nd doesn’t seem like a fair trade to me.

28 Nov 2018 23:15:47
That's fine. Getting nylander at 8mil and 1 possible top4 d prospect no thanks. Need them both if your gutting my teasms defense. I could at maximum

Parayko kyrou jaybo 3rd

Nylander liljgren sandin.

You got other d prospects.

28 Nov 2018 03:47:07
Leafs trade- nylander and borgman or Rosen
Jackets- Panarin, Murray and conditional 1st

Leafs get a ufa left winger, young defensive d man who in my opinion plays a Brent seabrook style that will compliment Rielly we'll. Also a conditional 1st if Panarin doesn't resign with leafs. Panarin wants to play in a big market with modelling opportunity for his wife which TO can provide and if he doesn't want to stay leafs get the pick

Columbus gets a very good young winger to replace Panarin as it doesn't look like he'll want to resign with them and a depth defenceman.

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28 Nov 2018 12:32:56
Why you call panarin a ufa? he's signed as of now, nylander is a rfa and you left that part out. Would much rather have panarin for 10 than nylander for 8 next year but Toronto can't afford either. Toronto going to have to take a lesser defenseman cause no ones giving close to equal in when everyone knows the situation. Nylander has a 60point season playing with Mathews, no one is paying close to what he's asking little alone give up great assets to get him. Might get a justin Faulk straight across.

28 Nov 2018 18:04:25
He’s going to be a ufa, it gives the leafs even more scoring depth for the playoff push and they can let him walk after the season because they won’t be able to afford him and take the pick. Jackets get a similar player whose younger and controable, at least they know they have his rights for the next 4 years so they don’t lose Panarin for nothing and Murray is currently their 4th dman who I think given the chance can take on a larger role than the one he is currently in.

28 Nov 2018 01:25:46
Leafs trade Kapanen, Sparks
Vancouver trades Goldobin, Demko.

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28 Nov 2018 16:52:33
Holy!, I don’t think Benning would have ever blocked someone’s phone number so fast as he would if Dubas suggested this 😂

Kapanen has more value than Goldobin I guess but Demko is in a different league than Sparks when it comes to value, this trade isn’t even close.

28 Nov 2018 17:28:39
I stead of Demko, how about DiPietro.

My thinking is Andersen is going to be expensive dive to re-sign. Maybe we can get a highly ranked goalie prospect player to replace him in a few years.

28 Nov 2018 01:01:27
If Nylander re-signs

Leafs trade Kapanen
Washington trades Vrana.

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28 Nov 2018 12:23:52
why would they trade kapanen just to get another forward?

28 Nov 2018 13:04:18
LW vs RW because RW is stronger, especially once Nylander returns. I wouldn’t do it, but I’m sure that’s his justification.

28 Nov 2018 17:26:40
@unbiasedjim

That’s exactly what I was getting at. Lol.

Kapanen is a wasted asset on third line, which he will be playing when Nylander comes back. We could try him LW, but if that doesn’t work well, we could consider trading him to shore up thy side. Vrana is an equally capable player. Brings Cup pedigree, which would be nice to have.

Why wouldn’t you make this trade? Value seems to be about equal?

27 Nov 2018 23:15:04
Maple Leafs - Rangers

Maple Leafs offer Nazem Kadri, Jake Gardiner, Jeremy Bracco and a 1st Rd pick in 2019 to the Rangers for Brady Skjei and Chris Kreider

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