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08 Feb 2024 00:35:17
Pittsburgh Trades
Guentzel
Ruhwedel

Toronto Trades
Bertuzzi
Liljegren


If Pittsburgh is ready to part ways with Guentzel this would be more getting Liljegren in a transaction like this Bertuzzi isn't a bad replacement for Guentzel as well.

For The Leafs this improves LW getting Guentzel for there playoff run over Bertuzzi and the sacrifice is Ruhwedel over Liljegren getting Guentzel.



Thoughts ?

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08 Feb 2024 01:51:11
Uuuhhhh NO from Pittsburgh. Hang up phone.

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08 Feb 2024 07:08:38
agree Nashan. could also add Pens block Leafs number.

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08 Feb 2024 11:37:41
No, Bertuzzi isn't a bad replacement for Guentzel, he is a horrible overpaid salary cap dump one! And Liljegren is 24 years old, and in 10 years he has a chance to be 34.

Of course Pitt should trade a 40 goal scorer for these two stiffs to help Toronto out.

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08 Feb 2024 21:09:17
There's just no need to do it. Bertuzzi has under performed statistically, but to say he's been awful is a stretch and half. He's had good games and bad games like everyone does and imo the systems Keefe runs do not suit a guy like Bert.

As for the trade, after seeing what Lindholm and Monahan got, Guentzel is going to get a tonne back in return for the Pens should they decide to deal him. Far more than we are going to be able to offer. Even if we could pay the price he'll fetch, are we willing to do it for a rental? Cause there is zero way we'd be able to afford an extension with him as well.

I think our forward group is set unless we can add a 4th line guy who can also kill penalties if need be and can hop up into the 3rd line if injuries happen in the top 9. I think our defense is going to look different after the deadline or even before. With any luck maybe our goaltending situation will improve as well.

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16 Feb 2024 10:21:48
I’m sorry but the bertuzzi isn’t a bad replacement for Guentzel take is blasphemous. bertuzzi has 21 points in 51 games vs 52 points in 50 games while being on a worse team. Only use I see bertuzzi in Pittsburg id hed win a lot of beauty pageants.

A 1st and knies or a top end prospect Cowan is the only one that comes to mind or pittsburg slams the phone.

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07 Feb 2024 22:22:34
tor: liljigren, robertson, 2024 5th

arz: dumba (50%), 2024 2nd (wash), 2025 3rd


a case could be made to upgrade the wasington pick to arizon's. but this move would pay it forward into getting tanev out of calgary. while still keeping our first, for potential big game hunting or, restocking our own empty cupboards.

options: saros, tarasenko, wennberg, eberle, texier, henrique, mittelstadt.

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08 Feb 2024 13:20:38
Looks pretty good to me tbh

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08 Feb 2024 16:25:12
Dumba is awful. He absolutely fell off of a cliff. Dennis Gilbert and Jayden Struble are far better players that can be had for a 7th. Dumba doesn’t belong in any pro hockey league even the SPHL.

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07 Feb 2024 19:21:24
Trades for the Oilers

EDM
Perron
Reimer($750,000 retained)
Seider

DET
2024 1st round pick (EDM)
Bourgault
Broberg
Ceci
Campbell($1,000,000 retained)

EDM
Edmundson($875,000 retained)

WSH
Janmark
2025 4th round pick (EDM)

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07 Feb 2024 20:45:19
Detroit says no. Washington says. hmm. maybe.

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07 Feb 2024 21:11:48
Detroit laughs uncontrollably!

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07 Feb 2024 21:29:54
Stevie Y is a Hall of Fame player & Executive.

Let's give him a little credit.

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05 Feb 2024 18:48:52
Couple Hawks trade ideas.

CHI: Connor Murphy (50% Retained), VAN 2024 2nd
TOR: TOR 2024 1st, Noah Chadwick

CHI: Tyler Johnson (50% Retained), TOR 2026 2nd, OTT 2024 3rd
NYR: Kaapo Kakko, Zac Jones

CHI: Lukas Reichel, TBL 2024 1st
ANA: Trevor Zegras

CHI: Boris Katchouk
Any Contender: 5th

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06 Feb 2024 22:21:17
Not sure teams will give out more value like a first for 2nd and 3rds. Like for your first trade, I think toronto is more likely to give a 2nd or a 3rd + for Murphy instead of giving a 1st and getting back a 2nd

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08 Feb 2024 13:24:27
I think the first and second trades are close imo but that Zegras one is really bad. I don’t know too much about Katchouk so idk about the last one.

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04 Feb 2024 17:48:57
Ceci + 2nd

Hannifan 30% retained

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04 Feb 2024 20:01:10
Get real. Lol.

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04 Feb 2024 20:53:39
not a chance from the Flames

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06 Feb 2024 03:07:17
It's not like the Flames need him. UFA walks for 0. A 2nd for a rental is adequate compensation.

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06 Feb 2024 21:05:25
You think that cause in your favor. Holloway and a first maybe. Rather get nothing than take Ceci
Lol.

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07 Feb 2024 15:17:34
- CGY is on record saying if they can’t re-sign Hanifin, they’ll trade him.

- A 2nd is NOT “adequate” for an asset like him. It’s not even close!

- Case in point: Monahan brought a 1st and a conditional 3rd. Hanifin has way more value.

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10 Feb 2024 22:54:58
Must be your 1st year watching hockey. 2nd even 3rd is more common for a UFA rental at the deadline.
Closer to the deadline. lesser the pick.

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10 Feb 2024 22:57:03
Holloway and a 1st for a UFA rental
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

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04 Feb 2024 15:53:52
Mtl- Harris-kovacevic

TB -gauthier-2 Nd pick 2025


Mtl- Allen 4th and 5th pick 2024

NJ - 2 Nd pick 2024

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04 Feb 2024 08:32:29
CGY - Chris Tanev (50% Salary Retained)
VAN - Aatu Raty & 2025 2nd

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04 Feb 2024 17:32:03
While I think that is decent value for Tanev, it isn't enough now. With the Lindholm and Monahan trades, teams are way overpaying. With retention, Tanev will most likely get a 1st and a mid round pick and a prospect like Raty. He's not worth it as neither Monahan or Lindholm were worth what they got.

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04 Feb 2024 20:54:54
@BarDown I agree, I’m just lowering my expectations lol

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07 Feb 2024 17:29:00
Like Bar Down, I think the market price for Tanev will turn out to be pretty high.

Given his age and skill set I’m shocked that OTT is allegedly considering trading for him. Their trajectory doesn’t seem to line up with the player’s age.

The good news is that CGY should get a nice return👍.

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03 Feb 2024 20:32:52
montreal: askarov, 2024 2nd rd pick (lowest)

nashville: 2024 1st rd pick (Mtl)


montreal secures them one of the top goalie prospects. fits their development. nashville gets a top 10 pick to help secure them an impact center.

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04 Feb 2024 10:49:52
Habs won't trade thier first, that pick will be near top 5 and Habs don't need askarov anymore, montembault is pretty decent and Jacob Fowler is our future goaltender.

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04 Feb 2024 13:25:26
You must not see how good askarov has been so far.

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04 Feb 2024 15:56:05
Maybe but that draft is strong won't waive a top 10 pick.

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07 Feb 2024 17:33:13
- Habs respectfully decline.

- The 2024 Draft is NOT considered to be a deep draft. It is considered to be 20-deep, with a steep drop off. Look for lots to late first rounders to move.

- I’d rather Fowler than Askarov. When possible, I would avoid Russian players period under the current climate for a host of reasons.

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02 Feb 2024 18:33:34
LA Trades:

- Rittich
- 2nd ('25)
- 4th ('26)

MTL Trades:

- Allen



- LA has Talbot as their starter, and desperately needs help beyond what Rittich can offer.

- Allen can help this year and next, and because the G supply is limited and demand is high, he brings a higher return due to market conditions.



"MTL still encourages teams needing cap relief to bring their garbage pending UFA contracts for some sweet, sweet cap relief at OUTRAGEOUS asset costs."

: )

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02 Feb 2024 22:24:08
I would like to see a little more. If the Kings ( which they do) are in desperate need for a other goalie., well id take advantage of that and ask for a little more. Would rather not have Big Save Dave in the deal.

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02 Feb 2024 23:18:18
I think rittich is on a roll and Talbot is a bit on a downfall.

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02 Feb 2024 23:25:27
This would be an above-market return.

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03 Feb 2024 22:13:35
makes a ton of sense for the Kings, they need more stability in net

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02 Feb 2024 18:03:15
NYI Trade:

- Matt Martin
- 1st Round Pick ('26)


MTL Trade:

- Savard



- NYI only have 2 healthy RD, and Savard is playoff-tested, big, and still has plenty shot-blocking & timely scoring in him to help them this year and next.

- MTL gets a second 1st in each of the coming 3 seasons. I see them packaging some of their extra NHL-ready yound D along with some 1st rounders to get some high-end talent up front. (They have quantity, now it's time to target some quality high-end targets.)

- Martin has been a good soldier for Lou, but he's a throw-in on this deal to make the dollars work.

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02 Feb 2024 22:26:29
No need for Martin, I dont mind this though at all.

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02 Feb 2024 23:28:20
SOSA: as I mentioned above Martin is only a salary take back to facilitate the deal, as Rittich is above. (The return to the Habs is the picks. )

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03 Feb 2024 22:14:58
I think you nailed Savard’s value in my opinion, a 1st is very reasonable.

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02 Feb 2024 13:31:42
WPG Trades:

- 2024 2nd (MTL)
- 2025 1st

MTL Trades:

- Monahan
- Kapanen


- Chevy gets the C he needs to take important faceoffs without taking from his active roster.

- MTL increases picks for draft or trade.

- MTL increases available cap space to 7.2M, and encourages all teams in need of deadline cap space to come with offers to dump their garbage for prospects & picks.

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02 Feb 2024 14:39:47
No from Winnipeg as the Jets need a 2C. Monahan isn't an upgrade over anyone in Winnipeg's top 6 and isn't good enough defensively to play in the bottom 6.

I doubt Chevy has any interest especially at that cost.

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02 Feb 2024 14:40:29
I think that the value is there but if I'm MTL, I'd prefer going for prospects instead of picks. Rebuild is going along well and a young core is being built and I think it's important for them to have a core of players that have similar age ranges, considering they already have a good amount of draft picks in the next few years. I would swap that 1st for a young promising player like Lambert, assuming a deal would be done with WPG.

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02 Feb 2024 15:34:04
Lol memarcusjoe what was that about Chevy not having any interest? 😂.

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02 Feb 2024 15:55:19
Nice chickenfoot, didn’t think Montreal was getting a 1st for Monahan. These early trades may be worth more than deadline deals. Montreal killed it with Monahan.

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02 Feb 2024 15:55:59
Well that didn't take long. Excellent return for Montreal and a disappointing trade for Winnipeg.

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02 Feb 2024 16:42:49
@memarcusjoe

Well. this reply aged well.

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02 Feb 2024 16:45:54
Well, your doubts didn't pan out as you thought. Monahan is now a Jet! For a 1st this year and a conditional 3rd in 2027 if they win the cup.

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02 Feb 2024 17:12:46
Hopefully Monahan is as good as Montreal fans say, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

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02 Feb 2024 19:43:51
Pretty close value to the actual trade, well done.

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