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17 Oct 2017 19:44:16
Not putting much weight into this, but there are some rumblings after Marc Bergevin was attending the Islanders game. Apparently not the first game either.
The speculation in the article i read was a 3 way trade with the Avs, but still don't think MTL has the assets to get anything done anymore. Another sad day for Habs fans.

Thunder Turkey

1.) 17 Oct 2017 20:01:36
As of two days ago Bergevin had been to 4 Islanders games. More than his own teams games.
Heavy speculation that with approx $8.5M in cap space he is pushing real damn hard for Tavares and that everyone is available for trades expect for Price, Weber, Drouin, Mete. Even Paciorety is available.
So what do they have to trade with any bit of value that could fetch Tavares. Or just wait until off season and give him a blank cheque basically?


2.) 17 Oct 2017 21:01:17
I've read that :

Montreal : Tavares, Leddy

NYI: Pacioretty, Duchesne, 2nd 2018 MTL, Lindgreen,

AVS : Galchenyuk, Juulseen.


3.) 17 Oct 2017 22:07:21
Believe me, i'd be damn happy if Tavares came over to the Habs, but i don't think that deal would do it at all.


4.) 17 Oct 2017 22:54:37
Avs did not hold out this long to get galchenyuk and juulsen for him lol no way sakic does that. If he signs that, he might as well resign after. Better to keep Duchene and attempt to repai fractured relationship and use his production at 6 mill than take galchenyuk at 4.9 and only get juulsen as an extra.


5.) 18 Oct 2017 04:55:33
The fact that Galchenyuk got 44 points compared to Duchenes 41 in less games kinda shows that Duchene is at an all time low in trade value and the fact that Colorado would get a dman prospect would make them come out winning. Montreal gets their bonafide #1 center that they desperately need and islanders get a good roster replacement for Tavares in Duchene and a first line winger in Pacioretty.


6.) 18 Oct 2017 13:54:53
Galchenyuk had bit better season offensively speaking last year but Duchene has a track record of 6-7 years before that of putting up good numbers including 70 pt seasons and 43 in 48 in lockout year. Numbers that galchenyuk hasn't been close to and I would bet never does reach. Last year was miserable for Duchene and the whole avs team, if he was 33 years old I might think his value takes a big hit because people may think it's the beginning of a decline. But at 26, it's a blip on the radar of a good career. He's built for the way the game is now with speed and skill and will be a good player for years. Because of last season, teams will low ball offer sakic for sure, try to steal him, but it's only logical to assume that's already happened as this has been going on for a year and he's still there. They aren't going to accept it now.


7.) 18 Oct 2017 13:59:42
Sakic obviously has more faith in Duchene returning to form than he has in anything he's been offered or he would have started the season elsewhere. And I'd be shocked if they weren't offered galchenyuk in a package at some point because he was apparently shopped a lot this summer and habs wanted Duchene. Only makes sense they already turned that down.


 

 

04 Jul 2017 19:06:51
Yak to Colorado Avalanche at $875k for a 1 year deal. I knew someone was going to get him under 1M, just didn't know who.

Thunder Turkey

1.) 04 Jul 2017 21:41:54
Should of been Habs.


2.) 04 Jul 2017 22:52:34
I agree, give him a chance on a line with Chucky and see if they can reconnect.


3.) 05 Jul 2017 00:53:15
Wouldnt have hurt at that price to give him a shot.


4.) 05 Jul 2017 00:54:19
It's his last chance so hopfully he makes the best of it!


5.) 05 Jul 2017 01:01:00
If they give him playing time with Mack duchene and landeskog and he still doesn't produce then we will know for sure he's a bust.


6.) 05 Jul 2017 04:41:04
Ya, its now or never for him. next stop KHL if this doesn't work.


7.) 05 Jul 2017 05:03:51
I would've definitely given him a shot especially if I was Bergevin. But no sense in signing him unless you have him playing with talent IMO.


8.) 05 Jul 2017 05:15:58
He was a bust a long time ago.


9.) 05 Jul 2017 16:11:39
Yak was a stud in sarnia; used to watch him all the time against the spits. Don't know why he is struggling still to make the leap to the nhl.


10.) 05 Jul 2017 16:54:34
Some guys games just don't translate. Lots of first rounders never play or barely make an impact in the NHL and very little is made from it outside their own organization. He just happened to be a first overall in a weaker class and therefore has been under a microscope his entire career. Not his fault they picked him first. I think any hope of him being a star is gone but he seems like a decent kid, hopefully he can make the most of this opportunity and at least have some success.


11.) 05 Jul 2017 17:13:25
Giller- Hockey IQ is not at the NHL level. That's why he is a bust and always will be number 1 Picks are expected to be the face of a franchise. he could excel on a line with two gifted playmaker to set him up for his "elite" 1 timer. He's never going to be able to carry a line like he was expected to do. He is a supporting player with some elite skills.


 

 

22 Jun 2017 22:04:48
Try to get a Center in MIN and some Defense for EDM.

EDM - RNH
MIN - Dumba

How does this look as a base?

Wild centers are getting old and could use some youth in their lineup.
Dumba has great upside and is still young to grow with the team in the phase they are presently in. Also sheds cap space for McD and Drais.

Thunder Turkey

1.) 23 Jun 2017 01:03:30
This looks fair honestly.


2.) 23 Jun 2017 04:40:25
Looks fair. FT4A is going to want 2 1sts, Suter and Dumba however.


3.) 23 Jun 2017 16:28:46
I try not to think about FT4A when it has anything to do with Hockey. Just glad to see i had some agree with it. For the people who don't - how would you change it around? I was thinking as a base but didn't know how to add from that point. MJC? Yep? Some other EDM fans out there?
I'm a habs fan, but have EDM in my top 3 teams.


4.) 24 Jun 2017 14:16:47
This deal was apparently on the table last year and oilers said no. Not without a 2 or 3rd coming back to edmonton. Dumba is still not responsible enough in his own zone. IMO Nuge took a huge step forward this year.


 

 

08 Mar 2017 20:00:05
Toronto is look for more Defence and Montreal is still looking for a top 6 winger for next year.
Would Davidson, Nesterov and a 2nd 2018 be able to get JVR?

This site has been dead since the deadline... just thought i'd put something up to generate some posts.

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1.) 08 Mar 2017 20:27:58
Those are just spare parts for JVR, so how do they help in any meaningful way?


2.) 08 Mar 2017 20:48:54
Toronto would probs expect a first round and a dman.


3.) 08 Mar 2017 22:12:11
Need Beaulieu + 1st, at least to touch JVR. Plus, it's probably going to be more expensive going Toronto to Montreal.


4.) 08 Mar 2017 23:21:24
This is a joke right?


5.) 08 Mar 2017 22:45:17
Montreal starts with a 1st then adds from there.


6.) 09 Mar 2017 16:36:59
Wouldn't trade Beaulieu straight up for JVR. Maybe Beaulieu for Nylander BERGEVIN might consider.


7.) 09 Mar 2017 17:44:32
Mtl doesn't want JVR.


 

 

01 Mar 2017 17:31:32
Dwight King to the habs for a 4th

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1.) 01 Mar 2017 17:50:41
Montreal is making a lot of questionable trades imo.


2.) 01 Mar 2017 17:56:58
the return of thunder turkey.


3.) 01 Mar 2017 18:31:13
I agree with McJesus. I dunno what direction this is going. very confused atm.


4.) 01 Mar 2017 18:42:04
Montreal is making moves to get bigger. They gained cap space by getting rid of a small centre, gained def insurance and added size up front. Pretty good moves actually.


5.) 01 Mar 2017 18:57:05
I'm with MCJ on this one. they really are not getting what they actually need. There is still 1 hour for a good move and apparently they are still very active right now.


6.) 01 Mar 2017 21:20:20
I was just thinking about this, Do you guys think Julien had much a day and wanted to get bigger more physical? Coming from Boston always known to be the "big bad Bruins". Maybe he had a say?


7.) 01 Mar 2017 21:42:45
They look bigger and a little more ready for playoffs. A lot of big game experience in King and ott but still lack the centre. When it comes to playoffs, match ups down the middle can break a series. Danault and galchenyuk will get dominated against almost any other playoff teams top 2 centres. Most teams ready to make noise like the habs seem to think they are have 2 centres better than the habs best. After you make such a bold move like trading subban to make sure your team has the best chance to win in the next 3-4 years, they should have just paid the big price and got duchene or another real top centre.


8.) 01 Mar 2017 21:44:20
They're making moves like they're the Penguins, adding role players and grit and a penalty killer and a 6th dman as hear final pieces, it's like bergevin forgot pens have malkin and Crosby. They're not in that class at all.


9.) 02 Mar 2017 00:18:39
I agree with you guys and I wonder if they made a push for that top 2 guy and came up short after addressing their lack of size and grit?


10.) 02 Mar 2017 00:59:47
Honestly think the Habs answers to a cup doesn't have Duchene in the picture. but the Islanders hold the answer. Lol. somehow the Habs need to try and get Tavares outta Brooklyn. But i don't even know where to begin with that deal.
Anyway, wishful thinking.
Im glad they didn't overspend on Duchene today. I don't see him as the peice that puts them over.


11.) 06 Mar 2017 09:32:40
Habs trade Price to Leafs for Marner.


 

 

 

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15 Dec 2017 15:20:29
So much talk about Karlsson, let's do another list... top 5 Offensive D and top 5 Defensive D... you can repeat people in both lists. Interested to see who everyone has up there. Maybe do a top 5 overall as well.

Thunder Turkey

1.) 15 Dec 2017 15:49:44
Top 5 offensive
1.Karlsson
2.Burns
3.Hedman
4.Keith
5. OEL

Top 5 Defensive
1.Vlasic
2.Hedman
3.Doughty
4.Suter
5.?

Honestly the Top Defensive ones are hard. Lol. as I'm probably way off.

Top 5 overall.
1. Hedman
2. Doughty
3. Karlsson
4. Burns
5. Keith.


2.) 15 Dec 2017 16:43:30
I was having a hard time with that one too and is why i'm having a hard time really assigning a value to Karlsson when if he goes to a team that doesn't need the amount of offense he produces for the contract he is going to get.
But for defense, i looked at Zaitsev and he has 62 hits, 92 blocked shots and still in the right side of the +/ -. Same with Provorov, sitting nicely in d-stats.


3.) 15 Dec 2017 17:14:17
I forgot about Zaitsev. Ya he's really good defensively

I guess with Defensive Dmen. if they aren't noticed. they are playing the right way. Lol. I dunno.

Kinda think they need 2 awards.
Keep the Norris for the top Dman. ad its been tradition. but . Bobby Orr award. Or something, to recognize the not as flashy, but important shut down Dman.
Have an award for the gentleman player. how bout an award for something more important.


4.) 15 Dec 2017 17:36:30
It’s a tough list/ lists. At this point you’d have to include mcavoy in there, peitrangelo could be multiple, Josi. you’d have to literally watch every game to know whose top 5 offensive/ defensive. things like plus-minus and points don’t really do anyone justice. Some guys get more power play time, some Play with more talented teams/ partners.


5.) 15 Dec 2017 19:37:07
currently alex pietrangelo is better than keith and oel for ofd, and better than vlassic suter on dd.


6.) 15 Dec 2017 19:41:22
Lol
. I totally forgot about Peitrangelo. Ya. take my list and jus ignore it lol
. To damn hard.


7.) 16 Dec 2017 19:43:03
Karlsson. Hedman. Burns. I would say are the big top three. But guys emerge all the time and they are slumping. So it's like a big rotating group from month to month I think.
Petro was. It's guys Norris winner at the quarter mark this season.
I've always liked Kieth, up to a seaso or two ago he was to me the best in the league for about 6 years while they won their cups.
Guys like Josi, Doughty, even OEL are always in this conversation as well. Suter top minutes guy in the league I think he gets mentions.


 

 

01 Dec 2017 17:46:55
Marc Bergevin acquires a slap in the face.

Geoff Molson acquires all of the pens in MB's office.

This works because Bergevin can't sign anything any more and Molson can feel like he contributed to something positive.
Works for both sides.

Thunder Turkey

1.) 01 Dec 2017 18:16:11
Best. Proposal. Ever. Period.


2.) 01 Dec 2017 19:39:25
I try to stay neutral and realistic, even if I am a habs fan.


3.) 01 Dec 2017 20:41:11
Love It! Lol.
Hey Turkey. how bout the Blockbuster? Cracknell for Holland? Think that changes our season? Lol.


4.) 01 Dec 2017 21:07:16
Really made everyone forget about the NJ and ANA trade, EH!
I have a feeling that was some sort of preliminary handshake before they try and put something together of a different caliber.


5.) 02 Dec 2017 03:09:43
Don't forget the 5th rounder MB traded for for the rebuild on the fly!


 

 

24 Nov 2017 20:10:23
Just read an article that predicts that the cap could be raised to $80M for next year, that would really help out a lot of teams. Sounds like a big jump though.

Thunder Turkey

1.) 24 Nov 2017 22:12:33
The cap has always projected to jump high, then settles a few millions less than was projected.
I hope it goes high. I can't stand the difference in yearly salary between all major sports. NHL is by far the least amount. Some no name basketball players you've never heard of are making over $20-30M a season. It's insane. I know their rosters are a lot smaller. But even baseball (yes okay a rubbish ton more games but ticket prices are, for the most part way less) . I just hope it does go to $80M.
I think they are protecting the smaller markets, to try and be competitive and have a competitive league. But the revenue sharing should help that. I hope it goes up to at least $80M.
But then we will be bitching about more bad contracts. Lol!
I also think the GMs should start calming down on the term and length of contracts giving out.


 

 

24 Nov 2017 14:38:26
What was the purpose of the habs/kings trade for Mitchell? Basically just free up more cap space which they have plenty of.

Thunder Turkey

1.) 24 Nov 2017 17:44:40
Who knows what M. B is thinking or doing.


2.) 24 Nov 2017 21:40:56
it was so they wouldn't have to send jerabek down or because price and schlemko are ready to return. probably at the max contract point.


 

 

21 Nov 2017 20:21:32
We have had a good list post for a while...

List 5 teams that have surprised you the most so fart his year.
List 5 players that have surprised you the most so fart this year.

Doesn't mean they have to be positive, could be a negative too.

Thunder Turkey

1.) 21 Nov 2017 21:49:10
Vegas obviously
Blues positive
Stars negative
Oilers negative
Sabres . thought they would be better

Schwartz. New he was good., jus not this good.
Schenn . Positive
Crosby. negative. jus a slump
Talbot negative. think he will bounce back
Couturier. positive.

Im keeping our Habs out of it cause well. It's pretty much all negative

I am hoping that the top point getters can keep up the pace, a few could hit 100 at this rate. which would be nice.
Biggest surprise, as far as out Habs are concerned. no changes!


2.) 21 Nov 2017 21:56:52
-Vegas surprising good.
-Canadians surprising bad.
-Oilers surprising bad (Minis McDavid, of course) .
-Price surprising bad.
-Actually disproving Stamkos this good, knew he was good but to come out like this after the injury did surprise me a little bit.
-New Jersey surprising great start.
-Toronto surprising good start, even more surprising to go 4-0 without Mathews.

-Crosby surprising bad.


3.) 21 Nov 2017 22:22:03
ESPN just today named Crosby the biggest disappointment this year.


4.) 22 Nov 2017 02:34:49
Really? Ya mean the first quarter Yup?


5.) 22 Nov 2017 05:25:27
Yes so far this NHL season.


I'd say my god damn Oilers are a close second Ugh.
We cheer for such frustrating to watch right now teams! Lol.


 

 

 

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17 Jan 2018 21:08:34
I have wanted to pawn of Pleky to pits for their playoff push, lol. Retain 50% on him so they can afford it and he is a good shut down center. Unfortunately i think your proposal is better - damn! lol.

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12 Jan 2018 20:18:59
2st?
is that a 1st or a 2nd? lol.

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12 Jan 2018 18:47:06
I have said it a few times. you are stuck with Stajan until his contract is up.

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12 Jan 2018 14:35:08
Sorry High, I can't read the second half of your post here. I think you are saying that Vanek has no value unless he is on a line with skilled players.

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11 Jan 2018 14:54:12
Again with that $5M retained. you can only retain a max of 50% and i'm pretty sure he is a free agent at the end of the year so doesn't even have $5M left to be paid out on his contract.

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