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17 Oct 2017 19:44:16
Not putting much weight into this, but there are some rumblings after Marc Bergevin was attending the Islanders game. Apparently not the first game either.
The speculation in the article i read was a 3 way trade with the Avs, but still don't think MTL has the assets to get anything done anymore. Another sad day for Habs fans.

Thunder Turkey

1.) 17 Oct 2017 20:01:36
As of two days ago Bergevin had been to 4 Islanders games. More than his own teams games.
Heavy speculation that with approx $8.5M in cap space he is pushing real damn hard for Tavares and that everyone is available for trades expect for Price, Weber, Drouin, Mete. Even Paciorety is available.
So what do they have to trade with any bit of value that could fetch Tavares. Or just wait until off season and give him a blank cheque basically?


2.) 17 Oct 2017 21:01:17
I've read that :

Montreal : Tavares, Leddy

NYI: Pacioretty, Duchesne, 2nd 2018 MTL, Lindgreen,

AVS : Galchenyuk, Juulseen.


3.) 17 Oct 2017 22:07:21
Believe me, i'd be damn happy if Tavares came over to the Habs, but i don't think that deal would do it at all.


4.) 17 Oct 2017 22:54:37
Avs did not hold out this long to get galchenyuk and juulsen for him lol no way sakic does that. If he signs that, he might as well resign after. Better to keep Duchene and attempt to repai fractured relationship and use his production at 6 mill than take galchenyuk at 4.9 and only get juulsen as an extra.


5.) 18 Oct 2017 04:55:33
The fact that Galchenyuk got 44 points compared to Duchenes 41 in less games kinda shows that Duchene is at an all time low in trade value and the fact that Colorado would get a dman prospect would make them come out winning. Montreal gets their bonafide #1 center that they desperately need and islanders get a good roster replacement for Tavares in Duchene and a first line winger in Pacioretty.


6.) 18 Oct 2017 13:54:53
Galchenyuk had bit better season offensively speaking last year but Duchene has a track record of 6-7 years before that of putting up good numbers including 70 pt seasons and 43 in 48 in lockout year. Numbers that galchenyuk hasn't been close to and I would bet never does reach. Last year was miserable for Duchene and the whole avs team, if he was 33 years old I might think his value takes a big hit because people may think it's the beginning of a decline. But at 26, it's a blip on the radar of a good career. He's built for the way the game is now with speed and skill and will be a good player for years. Because of last season, teams will low ball offer sakic for sure, try to steal him, but it's only logical to assume that's already happened as this has been going on for a year and he's still there. They aren't going to accept it now.


7.) 18 Oct 2017 13:59:42
Sakic obviously has more faith in Duchene returning to form than he has in anything he's been offered or he would have started the season elsewhere. And I'd be shocked if they weren't offered galchenyuk in a package at some point because he was apparently shopped a lot this summer and habs wanted Duchene. Only makes sense they already turned that down.


 

 

04 Jul 2017 19:06:51
Yak to Colorado Avalanche at $875k for a 1 year deal. I knew someone was going to get him under 1M, just didn't know who.

Thunder Turkey

1.) 04 Jul 2017 21:41:54
Should of been Habs.


2.) 04 Jul 2017 22:52:34
I agree, give him a chance on a line with Chucky and see if they can reconnect.


3.) 05 Jul 2017 00:53:15
Wouldnt have hurt at that price to give him a shot.


4.) 05 Jul 2017 00:54:19
It's his last chance so hopfully he makes the best of it!


5.) 05 Jul 2017 01:01:00
If they give him playing time with Mack duchene and landeskog and he still doesn't produce then we will know for sure he's a bust.


6.) 05 Jul 2017 04:41:04
Ya, its now or never for him. next stop KHL if this doesn't work.


7.) 05 Jul 2017 05:03:51
I would've definitely given him a shot especially if I was Bergevin. But no sense in signing him unless you have him playing with talent IMO.


8.) 05 Jul 2017 05:15:58
He was a bust a long time ago.


9.) 05 Jul 2017 16:11:39
Yak was a stud in sarnia; used to watch him all the time against the spits. Don't know why he is struggling still to make the leap to the nhl.


10.) 05 Jul 2017 16:54:34
Some guys games just don't translate. Lots of first rounders never play or barely make an impact in the NHL and very little is made from it outside their own organization. He just happened to be a first overall in a weaker class and therefore has been under a microscope his entire career. Not his fault they picked him first. I think any hope of him being a star is gone but he seems like a decent kid, hopefully he can make the most of this opportunity and at least have some success.


11.) 05 Jul 2017 17:13:25
Giller- Hockey IQ is not at the NHL level. That's why he is a bust and always will be number 1 Picks are expected to be the face of a franchise. he could excel on a line with two gifted playmaker to set him up for his "elite" 1 timer. He's never going to be able to carry a line like he was expected to do. He is a supporting player with some elite skills.


 

 

22 Jun 2017 22:04:48
Try to get a Center in MIN and some Defense for EDM.

EDM - RNH
MIN - Dumba

How does this look as a base?

Wild centers are getting old and could use some youth in their lineup.
Dumba has great upside and is still young to grow with the team in the phase they are presently in. Also sheds cap space for McD and Drais.

Thunder Turkey

1.) 23 Jun 2017 01:03:30
This looks fair honestly.


2.) 23 Jun 2017 04:40:25
Looks fair. FT4A is going to want 2 1sts, Suter and Dumba however.


3.) 23 Jun 2017 16:28:46
I try not to think about FT4A when it has anything to do with Hockey. Just glad to see i had some agree with it. For the people who don't - how would you change it around? I was thinking as a base but didn't know how to add from that point. MJC? Yep? Some other EDM fans out there?
I'm a habs fan, but have EDM in my top 3 teams.


4.) 24 Jun 2017 14:16:47
This deal was apparently on the table last year and oilers said no. Not without a 2 or 3rd coming back to edmonton. Dumba is still not responsible enough in his own zone. IMO Nuge took a huge step forward this year.


 

 

08 Mar 2017 20:00:05
Toronto is look for more Defence and Montreal is still looking for a top 6 winger for next year.
Would Davidson, Nesterov and a 2nd 2018 be able to get JVR?

This site has been dead since the deadline... just thought i'd put something up to generate some posts.

Thunder Turkey

1.) 08 Mar 2017 20:27:58
Those are just spare parts for JVR, so how do they help in any meaningful way?


2.) 08 Mar 2017 20:48:54
Toronto would probs expect a first round and a dman.


3.) 08 Mar 2017 22:12:11
Need Beaulieu + 1st, at least to touch JVR. Plus, it's probably going to be more expensive going Toronto to Montreal.


4.) 08 Mar 2017 23:21:24
This is a joke right?


5.) 08 Mar 2017 22:45:17
Montreal starts with a 1st then adds from there.


6.) 09 Mar 2017 16:36:59
Wouldn't trade Beaulieu straight up for JVR. Maybe Beaulieu for Nylander BERGEVIN might consider.


7.) 09 Mar 2017 17:44:32
Mtl doesn't want JVR.


 

 

01 Mar 2017 17:31:32
Dwight King to the habs for a 4th

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1.) 01 Mar 2017 17:50:41
Montreal is making a lot of questionable trades imo.


2.) 01 Mar 2017 17:56:58
the return of thunder turkey.


3.) 01 Mar 2017 18:31:13
I agree with McJesus. I dunno what direction this is going. very confused atm.


4.) 01 Mar 2017 18:42:04
Montreal is making moves to get bigger. They gained cap space by getting rid of a small centre, gained def insurance and added size up front. Pretty good moves actually.


5.) 01 Mar 2017 18:57:05
I'm with MCJ on this one. they really are not getting what they actually need. There is still 1 hour for a good move and apparently they are still very active right now.


6.) 01 Mar 2017 21:20:20
I was just thinking about this, Do you guys think Julien had much a day and wanted to get bigger more physical? Coming from Boston always known to be the "big bad Bruins". Maybe he had a say?


7.) 01 Mar 2017 21:42:45
They look bigger and a little more ready for playoffs. A lot of big game experience in King and ott but still lack the centre. When it comes to playoffs, match ups down the middle can break a series. Danault and galchenyuk will get dominated against almost any other playoff teams top 2 centres. Most teams ready to make noise like the habs seem to think they are have 2 centres better than the habs best. After you make such a bold move like trading subban to make sure your team has the best chance to win in the next 3-4 years, they should have just paid the big price and got duchene or another real top centre.


8.) 01 Mar 2017 21:44:20
They're making moves like they're the Penguins, adding role players and grit and a penalty killer and a 6th dman as hear final pieces, it's like bergevin forgot pens have malkin and Crosby. They're not in that class at all.


9.) 02 Mar 2017 00:18:39
I agree with you guys and I wonder if they made a push for that top 2 guy and came up short after addressing their lack of size and grit?


10.) 02 Mar 2017 00:59:47
Honestly think the Habs answers to a cup doesn't have Duchene in the picture. but the Islanders hold the answer. Lol. somehow the Habs need to try and get Tavares outta Brooklyn. But i don't even know where to begin with that deal.
Anyway, wishful thinking.
Im glad they didn't overspend on Duchene today. I don't see him as the peice that puts them over.


11.) 06 Mar 2017 09:32:40
Habs trade Price to Leafs for Marner.


 

 

 

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28 Sep 2017 17:16:26
Well habs friends... its going to be a rough year. Losing 2-4 against TOR when they don't dress Mathews, Nylander or Marner is bad news. We had our top players on the ice and it is looking bad. The only positive thing i see is MB can't be employed much longer!

Thunder Turkey

1.) 28 Sep 2017 17:55:39
no marner matthews nylander jvr bozak kadri leo hyman brown reilly gards ziets and hainsey

literally the entire top 9 forwards and top 4 d for leafs did not play.

habs lost with a full squad to all "4th liners" and "bottom pairing dmen"

i know pre season doesn't count, but things don't look to great for the habs right now.


2.) 29 Sep 2017 19:37:36
It's preseason boys. Don't get your hopes up yet lol.


3.) 01 Oct 2017 18:11:28
i think the habs saw your post thunder keep up the good work lol.


4.) 03 Oct 2017 18:46:24
Preseason means nothing. if it did. Avalanche would be cup favs. and wr did get 9 goals the other night. that's not going to be normal either. I agree Turkey however. will probably be a rough one. doubt Habs have a 3rd straight ridiculous October . that's what saved them last season. playoffs are probable. But Tampa. and (sigh) (at least its not Boston), Toronto are better . so no first. Will battle for 3rd and/ or Wild card. only cause we have Price. If he has any sort of injury. bye bye playoffs and hope he's out long enough to get a shot at top 5 pick.
Blasphemy I jus spoke. Oh boy. going to Hockey hell.


 

 

26 Jul 2017 19:39:31
Will Butcher is becoming an UFA in August. Hobey Baker Defense - does anyone know much about him? He was drafted in 2013 by Col.

Thunder Turkey

1.) 28 Jul 2017 04:32:33
He's small for a typical defenseman but seems to have a strong offensive game. I'd be concerned about him being able to handle the nhl game but I guess he'd be worth taking a chance on.


 

 

25 Jul 2017 18:02:46
Habs sign Streit for 1 year at $700,000
They still have a little over $9M in cap space. I hope they have a plan, because i'm not impressed so far.

Thunder Turkey

1.) 25 Jul 2017 20:42:58
Yeah checked out streits stats he is career -69 in +/ -.


2.) 25 Jul 2017 21:22:17
Good signing I'd say. Didn't know it was that much under $1M. Good for depth.


3.) 26 Jul 2017 00:53:58
Maybe he can replace Beaulieu puck moving ability for a season, deff not his speed. good price at least. but agree with Turkey. not impressed . Hopefully Markov will lower his asking price. but, other than Petry, going to be a pretty slow footed D core .


4.) 26 Jul 2017 17:14:41
That don't impress me much, oh oh oooohhh.


5.) 26 Jul 2017 17:17:19
Colt, only idiots use plus minus (which is a line stat) when talking about a player.


6.) 26 Jul 2017 17:51:36
That would make it an appropriate stat for Tankie to use. Where is the problem?


7.) 26 Jul 2017 14:37:31
You guys are going to make tankie change his name for the hundredth time.


8.) 27 Jul 2017 14:39:12
Let's see here so a stay widely used in hockey is irrelevant. Ok sound but right.


9.) 27 Jul 2017 14:43:27
Lol Touche as usual Shank.


10.) 28 Jul 2017 20:10:11
So Colt since Lars Eller had a better +/ - then Mackinnon, he must be better right? Right!?


 

 

03 Jul 2017 18:30:26
There goes Radulov to Dalas for 31.25 for 5 years.
The habs take on anther risk with Ales Hemsky.

Thunder Turkey

1.) 03 Jul 2017 19:22:06
Who could they get to replace 1st line RW?


2.) 04 Jul 2017 01:59:59
Hmm. As much as not sure bringinf him baxk is a good idea. maybe Vanek? That's risky. Jagr. huge hole now., not that we don't already have enough. I think I would have gave Yakupov a deal before Hemsky.


3.) 04 Jul 2017 06:16:19
Not much of a risk 1 year 1mil.


4.) 04 Jul 2017 18:01:55
Well after the Radulov fiasco i'd be scared to sign Vanek to 1 year. Probably go out and get 55 to 60 points and bolt lol.


 

 

22 Jun 2017 22:35:37
I guess we can say goodbye to Radulov now. He is asking for 6 years @ $7M. I don't think anyone would pay him that much. I'm guessing he goes back home.

Thunder Turkey

1.) 23 Jun 2017 01:53:54
Just because you initially ask for something doesn't mean that's the minimum you're willing to take. Just think of how stupid of a bargaining strategy that'd be for a second.


2.) 23 Jun 2017 04:27:02
If that's the case, ya he's as good as gone. i'm sure some stupid GM will give hin that though.


3.) 23 Jun 2017 04:39:16
It's probably just the way 99% of every other negotiation goes. Or maybe it's pierre Lebrun just guessing what he thinks radulov is asking. or maybe it's what he really wants. who knows? We will find out in the next couple weeks I guess.


4.) 23 Jun 2017 07:35:35
That's called negotiating you won't start with what is reasonable you will ask more so when the you bring the deal down a bit just to seem generous you get what you actually wanted.


5.) 23 Jun 2017 13:50:37
Lol ya.
Radulov - Can I have $3M per year and 3 years please.
Montreal - No, you can have $5M per year and 5 years.

It's called nagotiating. It's happened many times in the past. Player asks high, settles lower.


6.) 23 Jun 2017 16:41:49
I understand negotiating, but that sounds astronomical for what he brings.


 

 

 

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14 Nov 2017 21:12:06
I'm a habs fan and this is just not right. : (
Don't hate all of us.

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09 Nov 2017 15:26:25
why are they measured in millimeters?

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09 Nov 2017 15:21:15
Dont think the leafs would. 3rd round pick is around a 20% chance to make it into the NHL as a steady player. I think that Leivo shows more promise than that.

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09 Nov 2017 15:19:13
Not close on either of these.

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07 Nov 2017 17:51:56
The Calgary one is terrible. not everyone is dumb enough to pay Stajan that much for a 4th line center.

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