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02 Feb 2018 20:22:21
There's hardly any trades involving patches so I'll give Be it a shot.

Patches straight up for Sam steel

Montreal gets young talented center they want/need Anaheim adds scoring who adds immediate impact for their cup run now. I'm thinking that Montreal adds a mid round pick but to save getting my head ripped off by hand fans I didn't add. I think it works cap wise for Anaheim as they're a budget team and may exceed their internal cap to add a impact player right now

mertle

1.) 02 Feb 2018 22:11:07
While Steel is a very good prospect, I don’t think he’s proven enough to get Pacioretty. Also I’m pretty sure Marc Bergeron isn’t on a very loose leash and if this questionable move doesn’t work out his job will be very much in danger.


2.) 02 Feb 2018 22:37:34
Honestly fits both team needs absolutely but can’t see ducks pulling the trigger I don’t think they are going to have a successful cup run again this year but good post.


3.) 03 Feb 2018 01:28:11
Good post. It’s close. I think habs will want more to move patches, but don’t think ducks would add to steel for him. So I don’t see both teams being happy with it, but as close as I’ve seen in the hundreds of pacioretty ones lol.


4.) 03 Feb 2018 10:06:01
Sam Steel has proved nothing at the NHL level. Patches consistently 25-30 goal guy. Anaheim needs to sweeten the pot.


5.) 03 Feb 2018 17:04:37
Base on this and the comment

Patches + 2019 4th pick

Sam Steel + Mahura.


6.) 03 Feb 2018 17:09:11
I do agree that Sam steel is unproven but look at what’ is or could be available. there’s some young centerman that keep showing up in other posts like Dubois that are so unrealistic as far as the other teams wanting to give them up, Sam steel has the potential to be a top centerman and imo, if the ducks didn’t have getzlaf, Kessler, cokgiano etc then steel would be playing in the nhl, the ducks just have the luxury of allowing him to develope More with more ice time, which is definatley a good thing to do. Patches is a proven player and he’s definatley the best trade chip that Montreal has right now but Montreal fans can’t expect to get Dubois or barzal for him. So realistically steel is a very good option and by this time next year if they haven’t traded patches he’s not going to be worth half of what he is right now because he’ll be a ufa, if I was Montreal I’d cash in right now trade for steel, and draft a winger with this years 1st assuming they don’t win the lottery. And have Galchenyuk as your number 2 center.


 

 

23 Jan 2018 23:49:20
Read that Edmonton is a team doughty would accept a trade to. Would oilers fans be willing to give for doughty? I was thinking Hopkins and nurse. I realize that he could be had after next season in free agency but if there was a sign and trade senerio in place would you want Chiarelli to pull the trigger or take a chance that'll you'll be able to sign him if he hits free agency? Would knowing that you could for sure get him be worth giving up the likes of nurse and RNH possibly draisatl straight up?

mertle

1.) 24 Jan 2018 00:18:51
If it's out there that he wants to come to the team and that's known then I wouldn't give Nurse or Drai. Nuge and Klefbom, sure. But if it's known that he wants to come and could welcome signing when he's a UFA then I'm not giving Nurse up. he's having a great season and is our untouchable D man I would say, especially moving forward.

As much as I dislike Doughty, I think he would welcome coming to play with McDavid. He would also be the missing piece for the Leafs, It I thought he was a Leaf fan growing up and being from there that would be his homecoming, but I read he wasn't even a Leafs fan growing up and doesn't even care about that.
So I don't know. I do have a feeling he isn't staying in LAK for some reason tho.


2.) 24 Jan 2018 02:14:34
With Kopitar and Carter, would they even want or need Nuge? Those are two super good centres.


3.) 24 Jan 2018 02:36:55
They won’t want Nuge. Drai and Nurse would be more like the ask and there would be a bidding war I’m sure. Great Defense man for sure and I would hate to see Daughty with the Oilers.


4.) 24 Jan 2018 03:34:31
I read that his list of teams he would accept trade to are: Toronto, Chicago, Edmonton, Boston, Nashville, Columbus, Washington and Tampa.


5.) 24 Jan 2018 04:26:15
Hey Borje buddy. You should try commenting on other post besides only Oilers stuff for once. Never know, You might enjoy it.


6.) 24 Jan 2018 05:39:51
Why’s that Yup? Buddy.


7.) 24 Jan 2018 06:32:58
Even if this is true, which I seriously doubt, Doughty is going to command 10 million a year. With 21 Million tied up between 2 players currently, does having 3 players combing for 31 million sound like a championship built team? Didn’t think so.


8.) 24 Jan 2018 11:17:58
If nothing else it would set the bar on a Karlsson deal. I think EDM has to sweeten the pot. I don't think RNH is a fit for LA.


9.) 24 Jan 2018 11:18:01
Doughty resigned for Ryan Nugent-Hopkins + Kailer Yamamoto + 1st Round Pick


10.) 24 Jan 2018 11:21:28
There would be pretty close to 29 other teams who would offer more than RNH and Nurse for Doughty.


11.) 24 Jan 2018 13:25:12
Reality is that most teams are going to have 3 players making around 30 mill in the next few years. Superstars are making 10.5-12-5, really good players are making 8-10. Anyone signing their top players after this offseason is going to have a really hard time keeping them down because all these guys will find some kind of a comparable in the 8-10 range. If cap keeps going up, I’d nhl keeps stuffing overhyped outdoor games down our throats every month, should be fine.


 

 

17 Jan 2018 17:45:02
Leafs and Florida shake things up.

Leafs- marner, dermott, kapinen and 2018 1st

Florida- Ekblad

Toronto gives up a potentially elite winger who in my opinion isn't being used properly in Toronto, another potential top 6 winger, a potential top 4 d man and a mid- late first. Florida is a dumpster fire who need scoring and as good as Ekblad is, he isn't panning out to be the franchise type d man he was supposed to be but clearly for the leafs he instantly improves their back end. Florida clearly isn't winning any time soon and they get back some real good assets for the future. Toronto gives up a lot but they get the d man they need and to they'll have to give to get.

mertle

1.) 17 Jan 2018 18:08:13
That still does not get you ekblad imo.


2.) 17 Jan 2018 18:40:02
Fair value or not Toronto doesn't make that trade.


3.) 17 Jan 2018 18:54:18
The only reason that doesn't get Ekblad is because Florida probably has no interest in trading him no matter the return. If they were willing to trade him that most definitely is more than enough. A top line winger, a 2nd/ 3rd line player, a dman looking every bit a top 4 dman and a 1st. That equals more than enough.


4.) 17 Jan 2018 20:53:09
No from leafs Eklblad hasn’t proved as much as Marner.


5.) 17 Jan 2018 21:10:01
Doesn't get you a future Norris winner.


6.) 17 Jan 2018 21:49:45
Lol. Ekblad > Marner.


7.) 18 Jan 2018 03:38:53
A future Norris winner? As good as he is the defenceman with the most points almost always wins the Norris, I highly doubt he’ll ever outscore Karlson or Hedman and guys like that. What if dermott was switched with Liljegren and the first became a 2nd? Florida still doesn’t consider?


8.) 18 Jan 2018 17:50:07
In reading this over and over and can't see ehere the potential top 4 is frim Toronto.


 

 

12 Jan 2018 03:57:24
Wonder if there could be a deal between the leafs and jackets for Ryan Murray. Leafs are in need of a solid d man, with Gardiner and Rielly as puck moving offensive d men they could use a defensive minded defence. Columbus would still have jones, werenski, Johnson and Savard as their top 4.

Tor- JVR and a 1st
Col- Murray

Leafs get a young defensive minded d man to solidify their top 4 and if he can stay healthy could potentially be one of the better shut down d man in the league. Columbus gets a top 6 big forward whose a good net presence and a mid-late 1st. What do ya think. Am I far off or would the leafs maybe have to add a b prospect or something to compensate for JVR being a ufa at seasons end?

mertle

1.) 12 Jan 2018 06:52:52
Um that's too much for Murray. And leafs need a RHD so why would they even consider this?


2.) 12 Jan 2018 13:52:02
Dosent make sense to trade JVR maybe add a B prospect like Dermotte ( although they’d probably want a forward)
They’d still have Gabriel Carlson and Markus Nutivaara on the backend.


3.) 12 Jan 2018 16:03:33
I know the leafs would prefer a right handed defence, but currently Murray would be a definite upgrade. And maybe next year if leafs decide to move on from Gardiner as I think he’ll be ufa after next season they’d have Rielly and Zaitsev (puck mover and a stay at home d man) and if Liljegren is nhl ready he’d partner with Murray to give them another puck mover with a offensive d man, dermott and Rohan or whoever on the 3rd pairing. Without having to resign JVR there’d be lots of cap room for Matthews/ nylander/ marner. There’s no shortage of forward depth in Toronto and you can’t deny that if Murray reaches his potential could be a top 2 d man. sure he’s not doughty or Karlsson he’d be more of s younger seabrook and if I recall the hawks won multiple cups having 2 sets of defence pairings that one was a puck mover and the other a stay st home. sure the leafs give enough, maybe a bit much but again in the long run I think it’d make them way more of a “complete” team.


4.) 12 Jan 2018 17:12:02
Oh sure he’d be an upgrade but I wouldn’t settle for another LHD if I’m Toronto go get a player that better suits the team especially if you’re giving up a big piece like JVR.


5.) 12 Jan 2018 19:59:53
I understand what you’re saying mcjesus. I’m thinking more or less for next year or year after when Liljegren is ready as he’s a right hand shot that would partner with the left handed Murray when Gardiner is gone. He’s also same age as Rielly which fits perfect with their rebuild.


 

 

17 Aug 2017 17:37:05
Tor- JVR and Bracco or conditional 3rd.
Nash- fabbro.

Tor gets the d man, young with lots of potential, fits in with the rebuild and won't be playing in nashvilles top 4 for the foreseeable future ( not because of lack of skill Nashville has arguably best top 4 d core in league). Nashville gets top 6 power forward to replace James Neil, on a good contract and can help them win next season. Pick is conditional on JVR resigning. If he doesn't resign they get bracco if he does they get the 3rd.

mertle

1.) 18 Aug 2017 02:09:02
Nashville make it out like bandits.


2.) 18 Aug 2017 12:50:48
Fabbro is not ready for the NHL, no way Toronto even considers this.


3.) 18 Aug 2017 13:57:57
Getting a little old hear every Toronto trade being JVR, try someone else for a change.


 

 

 

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09 Jun 2018 01:12:12
Depth move for leafs to bring in some additional depth and playoff moral. May help the young guys try a little harder.

Leafs- 4th round pick conditional 7th and maybe a cap dump
Vegas- chick with her tits on the glass.

Vegas gets pick for the future to help them build on conditional 7th if she gets implants. Leafs get chick who's willing to do what it takes to get the crowd and guys going, may give young guys like nylander more reason to go to the corners and battle... what do ya think....is it enough or too much from the leafs?

mertle

1.) 09 Jun 2018 12:14:45
I'd spend a lot of time in the corners maybe a little too much. Plus she wouldn't need implants those puppies looked just fine the way they are.


 

 

12 Jan 2018 20:02:33
Hypothetical scenario.. you're building team Canada olympic team for the upcoming Olympics (nhl players are coming)... you can take 13 forwards 7 defence and 3 goalies... who you taking. If you're American who you taking?

mertle

1.) 12 Jan 2018 20:20:16
I can't participate, it will make me sad - lol.
Team Canada would be outrageous.


2.) 12 Jan 2018 21:52:07
Is anyone even really interested in the Olympic hockey.? Have to admit, I'm not. Maybe I'll tune in, but not the big event it's been in the past, where my whole life kinda stops and scheduled by the games lol
. Like Turkey said. To sad. lol.


3.) 12 Jan 2018 23:36:40
Im not usually a bitter person but just thinking about the team that Canada could put on the ice. I just made a mess in my pants. hah. Anyways yeah it’s too bad but has there ever been a time where Canada has so many top players in their prime that could be playing. you could say the same thing about the ‘mericans. February will be a sad month for what could have been.


4.) 13 Jan 2018 00:28:08
I've loved k get stop al hockey since I was a kid playing Nintendo and PlayStation. Always picked Canada. Hate that NHLer aren't going. I do love watching almost all winter Olympic sports. Some over my favorite two weeks. I think games with be super early morning hrs like Sochi, so with that and no NHLers the tv ratings for Canada and U. S games will be terrible.
I won't go out of my way to watch or stay up late or get up early for it like Sochi that's for sure.
I think the American team would be the most improved. Fuk sales I'm so sad no NHLers are going.


5.) 13 Jan 2018 02:04:10
Benn-McDavid-Seguin
Marchand-Crosby-Bergeron
Stamkos-Tavares-Schifele
Getzlaf-Towes-Hall
Mackinnon

Vlasic-Doughty
Peitrangelo-Burns
Keith-Weber
Subban

Price
Hoaltby
Crawford.


6.) 13 Jan 2018 05:38:16
Come on Nylander. At least give credit to who wrote that lineup.


7.) 13 Jan 2018 05:38:40
Disregard.


8.) 13 Jan 2018 12:33:42
This was Chris johnstons Canadian from Sportsnet lineup
You can google it the read article.

McKinnon McDavid Stamkos
Marchand Crosby Bergeron
Benn toews Schiffle
Hall Tavares Stone
Ex: Seguin Giroux

Keith doughty
Rielly petrangelo
Giordano Hamilton
Ex: Vlasic Subban

Price
Holtby
Crawford.



No Weber. Getzlaf. Perry. Carter.
Keeping dominant World Cup line of Marchand Crosby Bergeron together.

I would probably have Vlasic Subban and burns in instead of Rielly gio and Hamilton myself.
There's a look and something close to what it could be.

What changes would you make?


9.) 13 Jan 2018 13:17:05
What lol I litterly made that up in my head lol. @yup.


10.) 13 Jan 2018 13:54:36
My lineup would look like

Hall McDavid Stamkos
Marchand Crosby Bergeron
Couturier Tavares Stone
Benn Getzlaf Scheifele
MacKinnon Giroux

Keith Doughty
Rielly Pietrangelo
Giordano Subban
Vlasic Parayko

Holtby
Price
Crawford.


11.) 13 Jan 2018 16:37:19
Someway I would have Brent Burns in. even If he isn't having a Norris kinda year., but No way he doesn't make my team.


12.) 14 Jan 2018 04:15:10
I'm actually more interested in it now. Let's face facts canada could have put 3 teams in it before and each one could have won it. So even if they had lost you probably weren't actually beating the best canada had to offer. right now I just feel like it's more of an even playing field. i'm actually a little excited for it now I think there's going to be more emotion and physical play then before.


 

 

06 Dec 2017 15:51:44
Arizona isn't going to be competitive any time soon and leafs need a upgrade on the back end.

Ari- OEL
Tor- nylander, dermott, kapinen and 2018 1st

Toronto lands a very good 2 way d man who at this point in his career I'm sure would like to play some actual meaningful games. Arizona gets 2 young controllable top 6 forwards one of which can play wing or center, good defense prospect who may be nhl ready next year and a mid to late 1st. Leafs may have to throw in a cap dump plus a puck depending on what Arizona's cap situation is.

mertle

1.) 06 Dec 2017 21:02:47
OEL is worth a ton, this might be what it takes to get him, however if this is what it would take, leafs pass.


 

 

01 Dec 2017 22:51:19
Based on doughty's recent comments I don't think he'll resign in LA. I do think Toronto would be a good fit for him and I think have the assets for him. Yes they could wait until he becomes a free agent but my guess is 30 other teams are going to be interested. LA does a signs doughty 7 years 10.5/year and trades with Toronto

LA- Doughty

Tor- nylander, dermott, kapenen and this years 1st

With nylander being a part of the package Leafs won't have to worry about giving his big raise and not being able too afford doughy. It's obvious leafs would get a right handed young(ish) top d man, and kings get top 6 winger possibly 2 depending how you value kappinen, s potential top 4-6 d man and a mid- later 1st. Good offer from leafs and for kings it's better than losing him for nothing. Like I said it'd be a sign and trade

mertle

1.) 02 Dec 2017 03:07:05
If he's just going to sign there as a UFA after next season, as you say. Then why trade that much for him. If he wants to sign in Toronto he will, and no need to worry about 29 other teams or having to trade for him to show him you want him. He'll damn well know you want him lol.
But, you will have to let one of Marner or Nylander go in the next comin years of Doughty comes to Toronto. Especially for more than PKs $9M which is what he says he's worth and what he wants.
If LAK knows he's not resigning with them they take this deal and run.


2.) 02 Dec 2017 04:41:25
Just for fun, It’s possible to have them all, just need a solid stream of cheap young players coming in like Chicago and Pittsburgh. That’s where Leivo, kapanen, Sosh, dermott etc come in. Theoretically:

Matthews $11, marner $6, nylander $6,
Marleau $6.25, kadri $4.5, hyman $2.25
Brown $2.1,

Rielly $5, Doughty $10.5
Gardiner $4, Zaitsev $4.5

Andersen $5

That’s $67.1 million worth of guys locked up for 1-5 more years after doughty would be available. The cap seems to be going up $2-3mill a year, it’s at 75mill today. Say it’s near $80 mill in 2 years. Gives them 13 mill left with 7 good forwards, a good top 4 D and a great goalie. With a few entry level contracts and a few cheap veterans for bottom pair D (Polak type) and 4th line (dom Moore type) and a cheap veteran back up, it can be done. The bargains this management got on guys like kadri, Rielly, zaitsev and Andersen over the past 2 years allow them flexibility. Also marleaus deal overlaps this by only a single year. Then 6mill more is free for raises or other shopping.

I’m not saying this will happen, it’s a long time till then and things can change. Leaf fans have been lead on by UFAs before lol but people saying it’s impossible isn’t true. For the first time in decades they have a management team that I believe can pull stuff like this off.

Anyway, criticize away lol.


3.) 02 Dec 2017 12:57:21
And @Unbiased, Marleaus up in a year, so 6 million free.


4.) 02 Dec 2017 21:30:08
Isn't this Marleuas first of three years? He has two more years after this one, no?


5.) 02 Dec 2017 23:56:29
I’m a huge doughty fan, I’d like to see him on the leafs I just don’t think he’d choose the be there if he hit the open market. That’s why I suggested the sign and trade. Leafs give up a bunch yes but they also get exactly what they want in doughty. But yeah I guess if he was to sign a contract knowing that he’d be traded to a team he didn’t want to go to he wouldn’t sign. I just wanted to get if the offered package would be acceptable for doughty.


 

 

30Jun 2017 19:24:16
What would it take from the leafs to pry Ilya samsonov from Washington. If Washington is in win now mode and already has holtby signed long term would a trade for let's say JVR, dermott and maybe a 2nd round pick for samsonov and maybe orpik or another plug as a cap dump. Anderson is good but st 28 years old by the time the leafs are contenders he'll be on the wrong side of 30. How far off am I?

mertle

1.) 30 Jun 2017 21:25:34
Jeez Jvr dermott AND a second? for a good goalie prospect AND a crappy cap dump? no thanks from the leafs that's way too much.


 

 

 

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18 Jun 2018 02:29:11
Haydn fluery is a left hand shot. Can’t see that Carolina would want 10M ties up in mediocre goalies (how’d that work for Dallas) . Good trade for peg can’t see why Carolina would do it unless Bryan little or a top 6 center was coming back. That is if you consider little a top 6 center.

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25 May 2018 05:01:08
I think it’s too much for Subban, I like Subban and everything but if the leafs are to give up that package I’d sooner they go after drew doughty, Ekblad, Hamilton or even Ristolainen. Not that I think those guys are available. Don’t forget the rebuild is not quite done yet, too early to start trading away youth, especially core youth players. I’d like to see what liljegren can do before they trade him. Also good as PK is I wouldn’t say he’s a “franchise player”.

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17 Apr 2018 15:20:33
Think it’s a bit much from Carolina, I’m a fan of Reinhart but I think if Carolina is going to trade hanafin they’re going to want a center that’s more proven, more of a sure thing top center which I don’t know if Reinhart will be that. He may be a better 2nd line center. But yes he’s still young and could be a top center but again he COULD be. That’s too much risk to give away hanafin for. Also whoever said nylander is a bust is crazy, he’s too young to be labelled a bust.

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08 Apr 2018 19:32:18
It’s not that it’s not enough value, it’s solely based on the fact that Vancouver is rebuilding, giving up young good prospects for Karlson sets them back in their rebuild. You draft young guys, develope them then when you’re close to being able to do damage then you acquire vets. Chicago is a good example. they drafted seabrook, Keith, Kane Toews etc when you have a good core then you can start giving up picks and young assets for vets, nucks aren’t there yet that they can or should be trading away prospects. If they made this trade they’d still be bottom of the barrel team.

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08 Apr 2018 17:38:10
Agree with yup, nucks are in rebuild, makes no sense for them to give up those assets for yes, arguably the best d in hockey, but he’s in his prime now and if they're not going to win now then it’s stupid to give up those young assets.

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