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10 Dec 2018 00:48:12
Leafs- nylander, zaitsev and '19
2nd round pick
St. Louis- petreingelo and Carl Gunnarson

Leafs get a top rh dman they need. Petro has 2 years left on his deal and would be a great fit for the leafs as a good two way d man who is in his prime, brings leadership and is affordable for this year and next. They also take on gunnersons contract to evennout the salary but will be off the books after the season. St. Louis gets young top winger who can put the puck in the net and a dman to fill the void as their 2nd pair dman, if St. Louis is going to start a retool I think this could be a good return of young assets for petro as well as they get to keep Parayko who is young enough to fit their rebuild. I realize that Dubas told nylander he wouldn't be traded but with I don't see how with nylander a contract they can afford marner and Matthews, this gets them some extra cap space for next year

Who adds or is it close?

mertle

1.) 10 Dec 2018 01:29:25
Toronto would still need to add to compensate the Blues for taking Zaitsev's contract. Nylander + would be closer and the Leafs hang on to Zaitsev instead of adding extra to get rid of him.


2.) 10 Dec 2018 02:01:45
i'd do it, seems about even. maybe change the 2nd to a 1st.


3.) 10 Dec 2018 03:02:48
Nylander liljgren zaitsev 1st

Petro.


4.) 10 Dec 2018 09:41:26
Toronto adds and no.


5.) 10 Dec 2018 15:08:14
No chance leafs add Liljgren unless Kyrou or Thomas come back.


 

 

28 Nov 2018 03:47:07
Leafs trade- nylander and borgman or Rosen
Jackets- Panarin, Murray and conditional 1st

Leafs get a ufa left winger, young defensive d man who in my opinion plays a Brent seabrook style that will compliment Rielly we'll. Also a conditional 1st if Panarin doesn't resign with leafs. Panarin wants to play in a big market with modelling opportunity for his wife which TO can provide and if he doesn't want to stay leafs get the pick

Columbus gets a very good young winger to replace Panarin as it doesn't look like he'll want to resign with them and a depth defenceman.

mertle

1.) 28 Nov 2018 12:32:56
Why you call panarin a ufa? he's signed as of now, nylander is a rfa and you left that part out. Would much rather have panarin for 10 than nylander for 8 next year but Toronto can't afford either. Toronto going to have to take a lesser defenseman cause no ones giving close to equal in when everyone knows the situation. Nylander has a 60point season playing with Mathews, no one is paying close to what he's asking little alone give up great assets to get him. Might get a justin Faulk straight across.


2.) 28 Nov 2018 18:04:25
He’s going to be a ufa, it gives the leafs even more scoring depth for the playoff push and they can let him walk after the season because they won’t be able to afford him and take the pick. Jackets get a similar player whose younger and controable, at least they know they have his rights for the next 4 years so they don’t lose Panarin for nothing and Murray is currently their 4th dman who I think given the chance can take on a larger role than the one he is currently in.


 

 

26 Nov 2018 05:06:09
Zona - Strome and perkins
Chi- shmaltz

Confirmed!

Is it just me or did zona get absolutely fleeced!

mertle

1.) 26 Nov 2018 05:32:27
It’s supposed to be perlini not perkins. my bad. auto correct.


2.) 26 Nov 2018 06:09:16
Ya guess coyotes want more immeadiate help at center but wow the fact perlini also included really good for coyotes if potential is reached.


3.) 26 Nov 2018 10:42:35
So bad for coyotes.


4.) 26 Nov 2018 10:43:24
Imo strome will be the best player of the trade.


5.) 26 Nov 2018 10:44:02
I really don't know how to feel about this as a chicago fan. I really like schmaltz game, and he got 52 points last year. i thought he'd be a future core piece once the likes of toews, seabrook, keith, etc got traded or retired. but I really like that they got perlini and strome. with all 3 players still being young (21-23) and former 1st round picks this could go either way. it was a steep price for arizona but who knows, schmaltz could explode into the scene and become an elite player for arizona and perlini and/ or strome could become busts. you never know when it comes to these young players. as a chicago fan i'm hoping for the best for these players to excel in chicago.


6.) 26 Nov 2018 14:26:05
They’re all still young, but based on stromes potential alone I’d say Strome alone was worth more than shmaltz and a pick but to throw in perlini is crazy! Both those guys if given a chance to play with other skilled players could put up much better numbers. Shmaltz and perlini at this point already put up similar numbers albeit they play different positions but still. I don’t know how chayka thought this would be a good trade.


7.) 26 Nov 2018 15:14:06
I really can’t see Strome becoming more then a 3rd liner same with Perlini as of now Yotes get the best player. It’s a strong opinion but as of now I’ll take Schalmltz I’m on the Coyotes side here.


8.) 26 Nov 2018 15:35:51
Erie Otters put up a good tweet too saying “Strome had some good seasons playing with Debrincat on his wing, just sayin’“ lol I don’t really subscribe to reconnecting guys from junior and expecting it to work because the competition and Defense they face is so different, but at this price, it can’t hurt to try.


9.) 26 Nov 2018 16:01:19
This is the best move stan bowman has made in a long long time. Might be actually good enough to save his job. strome with actual playing time with say Kane or debrincat should flourish. But I mean even perlini could be the best player in this deal in a couple years. schmaltz had a real good season last year hasn't looked as good this year but could still turn it around in Arizona being more of a go to guy. Its just the edge goes to the hawks cause they get two guys back who can potentially just as good or better then schmaltz has been this year. Sort of like the pacioretty deal for montreal if tatar scores 17 or more goals for the habs it's a win no matter what patches does caused 17 goals replaces what he did last year plus we got suzuki and a 2nd as an added bonus/ back up plan.


10.) 26 Nov 2018 16:05:57
Oops i meant to say good for Chicago not coyotes but we’ll see who comes out on top soon enough.


11.) 26 Nov 2018 17:06:43
I had to read this trade a couple times on different sites, I wasnt sure if it was an error or not . I think Chicago made out like bandits on this.
Feel bad for the guy leaving Chicago. seems like when you go to Arizona, it's just to play and get paid . , but don't plan on playing past early April.


12.) 26 Nov 2018 20:21:46
Looks like a the start of more trades to come from Chicago. Removed Smaltz to eliminate the only big contract signing for next year. More bodies added that can be moved down to Rockford if necessary while juggling lineup. Next 2 or 3 defenseman being moved for draft pick's or forward's. Then with extra bodies on forward, make a move for top 4 defensive defenseman.


13.) 26 Nov 2018 20:27:37
Looks like the start of more trades to come for chicago.


14.) 27 Nov 2018 02:29:30
Still too early to tell. Schmaltz looking like the best player so far.

@sosa

Don’t feel bad for Schmaltz. It’s not like Chicago is doing anything either. Both teams going to be bottom feeders for a while still is my guess.


15.) 27 Nov 2018 04:30:36
Yes, time will tell but smaltz is the best player at the moment but if strome can figure out his game, might be good for Chicago, at this point strome is looking like a bust.


16.) 27 Nov 2018 05:56:15
Ya but LeafsGM., at least Hawks have some pride., and history. Coyotes are a joke. Only thing that was good about em is they were the Jets. . now that isn't even good. The new version is better.


17.) 27 Nov 2018 06:50:32
I thought the old version of Jets with Hawerchuck, Selanne, Tkachuk, Housley, Zhamnov, Steen was pretty good too. Lol.


 

 

24 Nov 2018 17:04:41
Leafs panthers deal

Leafs- Matthews, Gardiner
Florida- Barkov and Ekblad

Leafs get a top end two way center who I think is a more consistent as far as staying healthy and a defenceman struggling to live up to his potential who could use a change in scenery. Leafs get cap stability and 2 very good players. Florida is having another disappointing season and need to change something up so they trade for a elite/franchise centerman who if he can stay healthy is a game changer and they get a offensive dman who over the last few seasons has put up good numbers and they can afford to resign them both.

Matthews>Barkov
Ekblad>gardiner

Maybe some 2 or 3 round picks to be added but is it close as far as value?

mertle

1.) 24 Nov 2018 22:33:36
The difference between Mattews and Barkov is smaller then the difference between Eklbad and Gardiner. Plus Ekblad himself s not that far off in terms of value to Eklbad. Then putting Barkov on top and only getting a mediocre UFA is a joke. And for those reasons Florida is out.


2.) 24 Nov 2018 22:39:02
I think Florida adds a piece like Hubberdeau.


3.) 24 Nov 2018 22:59:58
Matthews has more value than Barkov, though in my opinion not by much, however Ekblad to me is leagues above Gardiner so for me the Leafs would have to add something else of substantial value.


4.) 24 Nov 2018 23:24:38
Barkov and Matthews aren’t very far off. Matthews could be like Malkin while Barkov like Bergeron. You probably take Malkin over Bergeron yes, but that difference isn’t warranting a huge downgrade of Ekblad to Gardiner.

No from Cats.


5.) 25 Nov 2018 01:24:01
Numbers suggest Gardiner is better atleast offensively then Eklblad.


6.) 25 Nov 2018 03:14:33
Vbb bruh come on.


7.) 25 Nov 2018 03:28:33
Matthews is better than barkov, Ekblad better all round than Gardiner and being RHD makes him far more valuable to leafs. However barkovs contract eats up a ton of the difference between him and Matthews. We can all assume Matthews will be $11 mill range and I believe barkov is around $6 mill (just under i think) long term. That’s a huge advantage. I say no because I don’t want to trade Matthews, not because the value isn’t there. Barkov and Ekblad combined will make in the $13 mill range. That’s huge value.


 

 

20 Nov 2018 12:15:04
Just for fun:

Arizona- Keller, Strome, Chychrun 2019 1st
Leafs- Matthews, nylander (unsigned) and Gardiner.

Leafs have taveres and kadri at the moment as 1/2 punch and doing well. Keller is capable of playing center but currently plays left wing which I think leafs lack, leafs take a chance on Strome reaching his potential while adding to their center depth and get a young 2 way defenceman.

Coyotes get their hometown boy to help with ticket sales and marketing, they get a potential elite winger who they can afford and Gardiner who they could also afford to resign if he chooses to stay that is. I threw in the first from zona to make up for the lack of proven nhl talent coming from zona. Remember it's just for fun!

mertle

1.) 20 Nov 2018 12:34:22
Matthews and Gardiner is more then enough, no need to throw in Nylander.


2.) 20 Nov 2018 13:01:20
Oh good times. That was fun. Thanks.


3.) 20 Nov 2018 13:52:28
Malkin, 1st for Mathews and Nylander! Just for fun!


4.) 20 Nov 2018 13:54:04
Wouldn’t get Mathews alone.


5.) 20 Nov 2018 14:15:57
I realized that leafs were slightly over paying, but my thought was that yes Matthews is a great player and will get better, but with 2 separates shoulders now he’s more prone to shoulder problems from here on out, nylander wants more than he’s worth and Gardiner is a ufa and the leafs also won’t be able to afford him if they sign Matthews and marner next year so he’s basically as good as gone too. Keller is a fantastic player who like Matthews is already producing at a good pace and hasn’t yet hit his ceiling, not to mention he doesn’t or hasn’t had a serious injury to this point plus is versitile as being a natural center who also plays the wing, Chychrun is the type of damn the leafs need with Rielly and dermott as puck moving more offensive minded which Chychrun and Zaitsev compliment nicely, Strome still has potential to be a top center at least a number 2 so with taveres they already have a bone died number 1 center and leafs also get a 1st which could be anywhere between 10-20. sure leafs give a lot but they are getting a lot in return, don’t see why it’s so far fetched as far as value for value. Matthews is not
Mcdavid or Crosby, he’s extremely good yes but in my opinion he’s not or will be in the same category as mcDavid so he’s not unreadable. maybe in a couple years when the oilers continue to miss the playoffs and mcdavid asks for a trade out!


6.) 20 Nov 2018 14:37:07
Mathews will out produce all these players combined in a full 82 game season.


7.) 20 Nov 2018 16:24:58
The daily over exaggerating by VBB.


8.) 21 Nov 2018 01:09:32
Keller gets 60-70=Nylander. So Mathews for Strome, Chychrun And 1st

Chychrun= 20 points

Strome=20 Points

Mathews=100+ points.


 

 

 

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09 Jun 2018 01:12:12
Depth move for leafs to bring in some additional depth and playoff moral. May help the young guys try a little harder.

Leafs- 4th round pick conditional 7th and maybe a cap dump
Vegas- chick with her tits on the glass.

Vegas gets pick for the future to help them build on conditional 7th if she gets implants. Leafs get chick who's willing to do what it takes to get the crowd and guys going, may give young guys like nylander more reason to go to the corners and battle... what do ya think....is it enough or too much from the leafs?

mertle

1.) 09 Jun 2018 12:14:45
I'd spend a lot of time in the corners maybe a little too much. Plus she wouldn't need implants those puppies looked just fine the way they are.


 

 

12 Jan 2018 20:02:33
Hypothetical scenario.. you're building team Canada olympic team for the upcoming Olympics (nhl players are coming)... you can take 13 forwards 7 defence and 3 goalies... who you taking. If you're American who you taking?

mertle

1.) 12 Jan 2018 20:20:16
I can't participate, it will make me sad - lol.
Team Canada would be outrageous.


2.) 12 Jan 2018 21:52:07
Is anyone even really interested in the Olympic hockey.? Have to admit, I'm not. Maybe I'll tune in, but not the big event it's been in the past, where my whole life kinda stops and scheduled by the games lol
. Like Turkey said. To sad. lol.


3.) 12 Jan 2018 23:36:40
Im not usually a bitter person but just thinking about the team that Canada could put on the ice. I just made a mess in my pants. hah. Anyways yeah it’s too bad but has there ever been a time where Canada has so many top players in their prime that could be playing. you could say the same thing about the ‘mericans. February will be a sad month for what could have been.


4.) 13 Jan 2018 00:28:08
I've loved k get stop al hockey since I was a kid playing Nintendo and PlayStation. Always picked Canada. Hate that NHLer aren't going. I do love watching almost all winter Olympic sports. Some over my favorite two weeks. I think games with be super early morning hrs like Sochi, so with that and no NHLers the tv ratings for Canada and U. S games will be terrible.
I won't go out of my way to watch or stay up late or get up early for it like Sochi that's for sure.
I think the American team would be the most improved. Fuk sales I'm so sad no NHLers are going.


5.) 13 Jan 2018 02:04:10
Benn-McDavid-Seguin
Marchand-Crosby-Bergeron
Stamkos-Tavares-Schifele
Getzlaf-Towes-Hall
Mackinnon

Vlasic-Doughty
Peitrangelo-Burns
Keith-Weber
Subban

Price
Hoaltby
Crawford.


6.) 13 Jan 2018 05:38:16
Come on Nylander. At least give credit to who wrote that lineup.


7.) 13 Jan 2018 05:38:40
Disregard.


8.) 13 Jan 2018 12:33:42
This was Chris johnstons Canadian from Sportsnet lineup
You can google it the read article.

McKinnon McDavid Stamkos
Marchand Crosby Bergeron
Benn toews Schiffle
Hall Tavares Stone
Ex: Seguin Giroux

Keith doughty
Rielly petrangelo
Giordano Hamilton
Ex: Vlasic Subban

Price
Holtby
Crawford.



No Weber. Getzlaf. Perry. Carter.
Keeping dominant World Cup line of Marchand Crosby Bergeron together.

I would probably have Vlasic Subban and burns in instead of Rielly gio and Hamilton myself.
There's a look and something close to what it could be.

What changes would you make?


9.) 13 Jan 2018 13:17:05
What lol I litterly made that up in my head lol. @yup.


10.) 13 Jan 2018 13:54:36
My lineup would look like

Hall McDavid Stamkos
Marchand Crosby Bergeron
Couturier Tavares Stone
Benn Getzlaf Scheifele
MacKinnon Giroux

Keith Doughty
Rielly Pietrangelo
Giordano Subban
Vlasic Parayko

Holtby
Price
Crawford.


11.) 13 Jan 2018 16:37:19
Someway I would have Brent Burns in. even If he isn't having a Norris kinda year., but No way he doesn't make my team.


12.) 14 Jan 2018 04:15:10
I'm actually more interested in it now. Let's face facts canada could have put 3 teams in it before and each one could have won it. So even if they had lost you probably weren't actually beating the best canada had to offer. right now I just feel like it's more of an even playing field. i'm actually a little excited for it now I think there's going to be more emotion and physical play then before.


 

 

06 Dec 2017 15:51:44
Arizona isn't going to be competitive any time soon and leafs need a upgrade on the back end.

Ari- OEL
Tor- nylander, dermott, kapinen and 2018 1st

Toronto lands a very good 2 way d man who at this point in his career I'm sure would like to play some actual meaningful games. Arizona gets 2 young controllable top 6 forwards one of which can play wing or center, good defense prospect who may be nhl ready next year and a mid to late 1st. Leafs may have to throw in a cap dump plus a puck depending on what Arizona's cap situation is.

mertle

1.) 06 Dec 2017 21:02:47
OEL is worth a ton, this might be what it takes to get him, however if this is what it would take, leafs pass.


 

 

01 Dec 2017 22:51:19
Based on doughty's recent comments I don't think he'll resign in LA. I do think Toronto would be a good fit for him and I think have the assets for him. Yes they could wait until he becomes a free agent but my guess is 30 other teams are going to be interested. LA does a signs doughty 7 years 10.5/year and trades with Toronto

LA- Doughty

Tor- nylander, dermott, kapenen and this years 1st

With nylander being a part of the package Leafs won't have to worry about giving his big raise and not being able too afford doughy. It's obvious leafs would get a right handed young(ish) top d man, and kings get top 6 winger possibly 2 depending how you value kappinen, s potential top 4-6 d man and a mid- later 1st. Good offer from leafs and for kings it's better than losing him for nothing. Like I said it'd be a sign and trade

mertle

1.) 02 Dec 2017 03:07:05
If he's just going to sign there as a UFA after next season, as you say. Then why trade that much for him. If he wants to sign in Toronto he will, and no need to worry about 29 other teams or having to trade for him to show him you want him. He'll damn well know you want him lol.
But, you will have to let one of Marner or Nylander go in the next comin years of Doughty comes to Toronto. Especially for more than PKs $9M which is what he says he's worth and what he wants.
If LAK knows he's not resigning with them they take this deal and run.


2.) 02 Dec 2017 04:41:25
Just for fun, It’s possible to have them all, just need a solid stream of cheap young players coming in like Chicago and Pittsburgh. That’s where Leivo, kapanen, Sosh, dermott etc come in. Theoretically:

Matthews $11, marner $6, nylander $6,
Marleau $6.25, kadri $4.5, hyman $2.25
Brown $2.1,

Rielly $5, Doughty $10.5
Gardiner $4, Zaitsev $4.5

Andersen $5

That’s $67.1 million worth of guys locked up for 1-5 more years after doughty would be available. The cap seems to be going up $2-3mill a year, it’s at 75mill today. Say it’s near $80 mill in 2 years. Gives them 13 mill left with 7 good forwards, a good top 4 D and a great goalie. With a few entry level contracts and a few cheap veterans for bottom pair D (Polak type) and 4th line (dom Moore type) and a cheap veteran back up, it can be done. The bargains this management got on guys like kadri, Rielly, zaitsev and Andersen over the past 2 years allow them flexibility. Also marleaus deal overlaps this by only a single year. Then 6mill more is free for raises or other shopping.

I’m not saying this will happen, it’s a long time till then and things can change. Leaf fans have been lead on by UFAs before lol but people saying it’s impossible isn’t true. For the first time in decades they have a management team that I believe can pull stuff like this off.

Anyway, criticize away lol.


3.) 02 Dec 2017 12:57:21
And @Unbiased, Marleaus up in a year, so 6 million free.


4.) 02 Dec 2017 21:30:08
Isn't this Marleuas first of three years? He has two more years after this one, no?


5.) 02 Dec 2017 23:56:29
I’m a huge doughty fan, I’d like to see him on the leafs I just don’t think he’d choose the be there if he hit the open market. That’s why I suggested the sign and trade. Leafs give up a bunch yes but they also get exactly what they want in doughty. But yeah I guess if he was to sign a contract knowing that he’d be traded to a team he didn’t want to go to he wouldn’t sign. I just wanted to get if the offered package would be acceptable for doughty.


 

 

30Jun 2017 19:24:16
What would it take from the leafs to pry Ilya samsonov from Washington. If Washington is in win now mode and already has holtby signed long term would a trade for let's say JVR, dermott and maybe a 2nd round pick for samsonov and maybe orpik or another plug as a cap dump. Anderson is good but st 28 years old by the time the leafs are contenders he'll be on the wrong side of 30. How far off am I?

mertle

1.) 30 Jun 2017 21:25:34
Jeez Jvr dermott AND a second? for a good goalie prospect AND a crappy cap dump? no thanks from the leafs that's way too much.


 

 

 

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11 Dec 2018 02:01:11
So Ottawa gets a possible future Norris trophy winner for a 26 year old 3rd line winger (top 6 on crap teams), a center prospect that is yet to play a game in the nhl and isn’t getting younger, Paul who is no longer a relevant prospect of a prospect at all, a over paid 5-7th defence and a conditional 1st. GTFOH! You can’t possibly think that Columbus would even consider this! To quote BIlly Madison’s high school principal “What you’ve just said is One of the most insanely idiotic things I’ve ever heard. At nompoint in your ramblng incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on our souls”.

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08 Dec 2018 22:28:40
Sergachev is worth more than that. He’s not having the greatest year but he’s still young, no where near his ceiling yet. Tampa says no.

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30 Nov 2018 23:12:33
I’d do the dumba deal just don’t think Minnesota would part with him as they’d be considerably weaker on the back end and no way Vancouver trades this years 1st for a player that is similar to what they already have in boeser (boeser is much better, but they play similar style) . Leafs don’t need another offensive minded d like Faulk, personally I don’t mind the zona trade, I like Chychruns style of play, I think he was a steal in the 2016 draft! Also don’t mind the Calgary trade.

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29 Nov 2018 22:44:28
No way St. Louis trades Tarasenko for a player that probably won’t resign given their looking like they’re headed towards a rebuild. If they’re going to trade Senko it’s be for picks and prospects more than likely.

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28 Nov 2018 18:04:25
He’s going to be a ufa, it gives the leafs even more scoring depth for the playoff push and they can let him walk after the season because they won’t be able to afford him and take the pick. Jackets get a similar player whose younger and controable, at least they know they have his rights for the next 4 years so they don’t lose Panarin for nothing and Murray is currently their 4th dman who I think given the chance can take on a larger role than the one he is currently in.

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