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23 Jan 2019 22:06:12
Leafs- Gardiner
Blue jackets- Murray and Peeke

If this is the year jackets are all in with the likeliness that bob and Panarin are going to be gone next season they add even more scoring to their blue line and may be able to get him resigned next year. Leafs get a younger more defensively responsible d man in murray, also cheaper.

I like Murray's game I think it's more of what the leafs need, Gardiner may be more offensively skilled but leafs need better actual defence. Because of the skill difference I added in peeke, another 2 way d prospect for the leafs, can't have too many decent defence prospects... just ask Nashville.

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21 Jan 2019 00:06:13
Leafs- nylander
Nash- fabbro and '19 1st

Saying that fabbro will join the preds after ncaa season is over, if he's good enough to join the preds he's definatley good enough to join the leafs. So leafs get a young controllable two way right handed dman they want. They save cap space for next year and nylander goes to western conference. Preds gain more scoring and I believe they can afford his contract as well. Win win for both teams

mertle

1.) 21 Jan 2019 00:59:22
Honestly man I doubt Nashville wants Nylander contract they all have such good contracts on that team then and he’s obvs not living up to what he should be playing. I think Nashville declines imo.


2.) 21 Jan 2019 03:07:40
Fabbro is a very highly rated prospect player. Very impressive, his numbers have gotten better every year since being drafted, even as the compete level has increased. Between Fabbro and Liljegren, at least one of those guys should work out as Rielly’s partner, and hopefully the other replaces Zaitsev.


3.) 21 Jan 2019 11:55:07
If I'm Preds I keep Fabbro.


4.) 21 Jan 2019 14:10:59
Why Nashville give up fabbro and a 1st for 7 million guy on pace for like 12 points and -30? Seems like horrible deal for Nashville. Or is there a superstar on Nashville that can make him better than he is?


5.) 21 Jan 2019 14:12:11
Maybe fabbro alone but that's a stretch.


6.) 21 Jan 2019 16:59:10
Why would any team want over paid Nylander. In the game against the Coyotes he was on the bench laughing and joking. All this while his team is losing and he is playing horribly. That's not the type of player any good team would want.


7.) 21 Jan 2019 20:35:11
I saw that video highlight of Nylander this morning again too. I didn’t have a good impression of him either. I actually boo’d the tv. It’s impossible to blame Nylander for all the Leafs misfortunes. But it seems entirely too coincidental that they start losing shortly after he rejoined them. He’s unbalanced the entire team as they try to fit him back in the roster. It’s not working out the way they had hoped. Nylander was a distraction all year, and now he is even worse than a distraction. He’s physically contributing to this skid in Leafs performance. I’m starting to wonder if maybe Dubas is regretting not trading Nylander now? At minimal, I hope Dubas has learned a valuable lesson about making public statements and promises that are dependent on other people in order to fulfill. Now Dubas still has to contend with Matthews and Marner, and is under a very public spoken obligation not to trade Nylander. It’s commitments like that, made to the public, that Dubas absolutely has to keep. He can’t break those promises. The backlash would be brutal.


 

 

11 Jan 2019 17:53:19
Tor- nylander
Col- Timmins 19 1st

Leafs get a very good defence prospect, who should make the team next year, sure they could trade nylander for someone to help now but in my opinion I'd rather trade for a younger possibly higher ceiling d man than a Brett Pesce or something similar, even if it doesn't help them now. Toronto also adds cap space to help with the possibility that marner wants more than originally expected.
Colorado gets secondary scoring in nylander to take pressure off the big line as well as gives nylander a change in scenery to maybe help him find his game back.

mertle

1.) 12 Jan 2019 01:24:09
Leafs don't need a d prospect at least not for willie . they need a d to try and win the cup in the next three years.


2.) 12 Jan 2019 02:35:43
Timmins has yet to play a game this year as he recovers from a very serious concussion. While Timmins used to be ranked just as highly as Makar, and even higher depending on the analyst, Makar is the better choice by far now.


3.) 12 Jan 2019 05:40:07
My first thought was Makar, I changed it to Timmins based on style of play, but I personally think Makar has a higher ceiling than Timmins. I just don’t think they should trade nylander for a d man like Pesce. Nothing personal towards Pesce cause I do think he’s good but if you could get someone like Makar that sure hasn’t played a nhl game but more than likely will be a much better player than Pesce wouldn’t you rather get the better player. If leafs were to trade nylander for pesce I think they’d be settling on lesser value just to add someone they think is a slight upgrade now rather than get a guy that’ll be a huge upgrade next year and the year after. rant over.


4.) 12 Jan 2019 21:25:29
The thought of trading Nylander for a prospect player, no matter how highly rated, automatically carries risk, as the prospect is so unproven. In Makar’s case, he’s playing NCAA, which is significantly less competitive than AHL or KHL. When looking how well the class surrounding him in the last couple draft years has done, you have to believe that Makar is going to be every bit as good as analysts predict.

Certainly his numbers continue to improve every year, even as the compete level as increased at the same time. He is the model of “today’s” NHL defenseman. I expect good things from this young man. The increase in quality of players coming into the NHL the last few years is incredibly impressive. Nylander for Makar is a trade that works for both teams. Before Timmins got his bell ring, I would have agreed with you on Timmins as good choice as well.


 

 

10 Dec 2018 00:48:12
Leafs- nylander, zaitsev and '19
2nd round pick
St. Louis- petreingelo and Carl Gunnarson

Leafs get a top rh dman they need. Petro has 2 years left on his deal and would be a great fit for the leafs as a good two way d man who is in his prime, brings leadership and is affordable for this year and next. They also take on gunnersons contract to evennout the salary but will be off the books after the season. St. Louis gets young top winger who can put the puck in the net and a dman to fill the void as their 2nd pair dman, if St. Louis is going to start a retool I think this could be a good return of young assets for petro as well as they get to keep Parayko who is young enough to fit their rebuild. I realize that Dubas told nylander he wouldn't be traded but with I don't see how with nylander a contract they can afford marner and Matthews, this gets them some extra cap space for next year

Who adds or is it close?

mertle

1.) 10 Dec 2018 01:29:25
Toronto would still need to add to compensate the Blues for taking Zaitsev's contract. Nylander + would be closer and the Leafs hang on to Zaitsev instead of adding extra to get rid of him.


2.) 10 Dec 2018 02:01:45
i'd do it, seems about even. maybe change the 2nd to a 1st.


3.) 10 Dec 2018 03:02:48
Nylander liljgren zaitsev 1st

Petro.


4.) 10 Dec 2018 09:41:26
Toronto adds and no.


5.) 10 Dec 2018 15:08:14
No chance leafs add Liljgren unless Kyrou or Thomas come back.


 

 

28 Nov 2018 03:47:07
Leafs trade- nylander and borgman or Rosen
Jackets- Panarin, Murray and conditional 1st

Leafs get a ufa left winger, young defensive d man who in my opinion plays a Brent seabrook style that will compliment Rielly we'll. Also a conditional 1st if Panarin doesn't resign with leafs. Panarin wants to play in a big market with modelling opportunity for his wife which TO can provide and if he doesn't want to stay leafs get the pick

Columbus gets a very good young winger to replace Panarin as it doesn't look like he'll want to resign with them and a depth defenceman.

mertle

1.) 28 Nov 2018 12:32:56
Why you call panarin a ufa? he's signed as of now, nylander is a rfa and you left that part out. Would much rather have panarin for 10 than nylander for 8 next year but Toronto can't afford either. Toronto going to have to take a lesser defenseman cause no ones giving close to equal in when everyone knows the situation. Nylander has a 60point season playing with Mathews, no one is paying close to what he's asking little alone give up great assets to get him. Might get a justin Faulk straight across.


2.) 28 Nov 2018 18:04:25
He’s going to be a ufa, it gives the leafs even more scoring depth for the playoff push and they can let him walk after the season because they won’t be able to afford him and take the pick. Jackets get a similar player whose younger and controable, at least they know they have his rights for the next 4 years so they don’t lose Panarin for nothing and Murray is currently their 4th dman who I think given the chance can take on a larger role than the one he is currently in.


 

 

 

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21 Feb 2019 00:24:31
With minny trading away coyle I wonder if
Wild are giving up on the year and unloading some assets. If that's the case what would it take for the leafs or oilers to land dumba? If it was a hockey trade I'd say nylander from the leafs, most will say a overpayment from leafs but to get what you need you may have to overpay and it may be a slight overpayment but considering both of their ages and contracts I'd donor for the leafs.

Oilers probably have to give Hopkins and maybe a small add like benson or bear or something. I know most poker fans would say the bear is going to be a good player and whatever but if you could have dumba, a proven nhler with reasonable term left not to mention shows mcdavid and others (fans) that losing is no longer acceptable

mertle

1.) 21 Feb 2019 03:00:51
I don't think Minny moves on from a guy like Dumba.


2.) 21 Feb 2019 03:37:59
I think most would say not enough from the leafs mertle.


3.) 21 Feb 2019 21:41:55
I agree Sosa, dumba isn’t a guy they should move, but with them trading Nino and now coyle one has to think there might be a rebuild coming and s guy like dumba would bring in a very good return. I wasn’t necessarily propositing that minnybtrade dumba just if anyone else thought maybe they were heading in that direction of a total tear down and rebuild.


 

 

29 Jan 2019 00:36:14
Leafs aquire Muzzin from kings for grunderson, rights to durzi and '19 1st. What do you think leafs fans, I think it's a good trade for both teams more so the leafs. Apart for him not being right handed I think he fits the mould for what leafs need for a shut down/defensive d man, who also has offernsice ability and affordable, Replaces Gardiner for next year. Good trade.

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06 Jan 2019 18:25:07
From what I've heard Dougie Hamilton would rather go to museums and site see rather than join teamates at clubs and such. Based on his past being labelled a party animal and being traded for it I don't blame him for wanting to change his ways. But even still now he's considered "not a team player" which I don't understand. Anyways in saying all that if it is indeed true I'm curious to know if Edmonton should consider trailing RNH for Hamilton straight up... what are your thoughts Oiler fans

mertle

1.) 06 Jan 2019 18:48:55
I thought that he was always into that kind of stuff and it didn’t go over well in Calgary. I never heard of him being a party animal.


2.) 06 Jan 2019 19:52:38
I think we was a party guy in boston.


3.) 06 Jan 2019 21:00:32
Nuge always puts up decent numbers if it weren’t for injuries but this season is a bit of a breakout season for him I think. He’s too valuable to the Oilers to make that trade. Especially since Hamilton is having a bad season. If it was possible to get Hamilton for less than I’d be all for it. Chiarelli is more interested in overpaying for number 6-7 D though.


4.) 06 Jan 2019 23:45:42
But at what point do the oilers management decide that this “core” isn’t working? Something needs to be done and trading mcdavid or draisatl wouldn’t be smart. nuge would bring back a good return specifically to a team like hurricanes that lack scoring and have a surplus of defence. Oilers were looking for a puck moving right hand shot dman, Hamilton makes less than nuge and fills a more important slot than 3rd line center.

If I was the oilers I’d try to trade nuge and a 2nd or 3rd for Hamilton and gautier. Gautier could be a good scoring winger beside mcdavid. Next year Yamamoto should be around and that gives them 2 scoring wingers. I don’t know. I’m not even a oilers fan but it pisses me off that after all this time and high draft picks they are still trash, i don’t know how management puts up with icing damn near the same rubbish each year and expecting different results year after year. They say when something’s working you don’t fix it but this teams been broke for the last decade and nothing seems to be done. waste of mcdavid.


5.) 06 Jan 2019 23:59:45
You sure you’re not thinking of Seguin being the party guy in Boston? Never heard that about Hamilton.


6.) 07 Jan 2019 00:49:51
I don’t think they should trade Hopkins either. Not that their defense is any good but they are 25th in the league in goals for. I don’t know how they fix this mess but bringing in guys like Rieder, Rattie, etc. and thinking they’re going to be top 6 players is a joke. I guess they hope Bouchard becomes a stud and Lucic retires. I would send Lucic to the press box and let someone else try to earn a job.


7.) 07 Jan 2019 01:56:10
It’s not from a lack of making moves Mertle. Nuge has been with the team the longest and he’s like 24. Nuge isn’t a 3rd line center though. The Oilers have no depth scoring so they need him. Chia just needs to get an actual decent D instead of wasting assets on #7 D. Bouchard, Jones and Bear coming up should help the Oil D. Think Faulk would come at a cheaper price? Use skinner as a model?


8.) 07 Jan 2019 04:35:49
Hamilton for Nuge is a fair trade I could even see Carolina throwing in a sweetener.

Hamilton And Julian Gauthier for Nuge?

Gauthier was a 1st round pick in 2016 a Scoring winger which is one of Edmonton’s biggest needs.

Edmonton should not be trading 1sts tho.


9.) 07 Jan 2019 21:42:07
I just think that at this point they need to make a big splash, not another minor league swap, not trading for bottom pairing players. Even something drastic like trading Hopkins and this years first, unprotected for pietrengelo/ Parayko and kyrou or something similar to kyrou. They haven’t done anything the last 7 years with nuge so why not try something new. Trading away this years forst tells fan that they’re at least trying to be better. If St. Louis is looking to rebuild then a top 10 pick and a top 6 youngish center is a good start. Paryko/ petro instantly improves their defence and they also get a scoring winger. Again they need to do something that fills needs and tells the fans that losing isn’t acceptable anymore.


 

 

09 Jun 2018 01:12:12
Depth move for leafs to bring in some additional depth and playoff moral. May help the young guys try a little harder.

Leafs- 4th round pick conditional 7th and maybe a cap dump
Vegas- chick with her tits on the glass.

Vegas gets pick for the future to help them build on conditional 7th if she gets implants. Leafs get chick who's willing to do what it takes to get the crowd and guys going, may give young guys like nylander more reason to go to the corners and battle... what do ya think....is it enough or too much from the leafs?

mertle

1.) 09 Jun 2018 12:14:45
I'd spend a lot of time in the corners maybe a little too much. Plus she wouldn't need implants those puppies looked just fine the way they are.


 

 

12 Jan 2018 20:02:33
Hypothetical scenario.. you're building team Canada olympic team for the upcoming Olympics (nhl players are coming)... you can take 13 forwards 7 defence and 3 goalies... who you taking. If you're American who you taking?

mertle

1.) 12 Jan 2018 20:20:16
I can't participate, it will make me sad - lol.
Team Canada would be outrageous.


2.) 12 Jan 2018 21:52:07
Is anyone even really interested in the Olympic hockey.? Have to admit, I'm not. Maybe I'll tune in, but not the big event it's been in the past, where my whole life kinda stops and scheduled by the games lol
. Like Turkey said. To sad. lol.


3.) 12 Jan 2018 23:36:40
Im not usually a bitter person but just thinking about the team that Canada could put on the ice. I just made a mess in my pants. hah. Anyways yeah it’s too bad but has there ever been a time where Canada has so many top players in their prime that could be playing. you could say the same thing about the ‘mericans. February will be a sad month for what could have been.


4.) 13 Jan 2018 00:28:08
I've loved k get stop al hockey since I was a kid playing Nintendo and PlayStation. Always picked Canada. Hate that NHLer aren't going. I do love watching almost all winter Olympic sports. Some over my favorite two weeks. I think games with be super early morning hrs like Sochi, so with that and no NHLers the tv ratings for Canada and U. S games will be terrible.
I won't go out of my way to watch or stay up late or get up early for it like Sochi that's for sure.
I think the American team would be the most improved. Fuk sales I'm so sad no NHLers are going.


5.) 13 Jan 2018 02:04:10
Benn-McDavid-Seguin
Marchand-Crosby-Bergeron
Stamkos-Tavares-Schifele
Getzlaf-Towes-Hall
Mackinnon

Vlasic-Doughty
Peitrangelo-Burns
Keith-Weber
Subban

Price
Hoaltby
Crawford.


6.) 13 Jan 2018 05:38:16
Come on Nylander. At least give credit to who wrote that lineup.


7.) 13 Jan 2018 05:38:40
Disregard.


8.) 13 Jan 2018 12:33:42
This was Chris johnstons Canadian from Sportsnet lineup
You can google it the read article.

McKinnon McDavid Stamkos
Marchand Crosby Bergeron
Benn toews Schiffle
Hall Tavares Stone
Ex: Seguin Giroux

Keith doughty
Rielly petrangelo
Giordano Hamilton
Ex: Vlasic Subban

Price
Holtby
Crawford.



No Weber. Getzlaf. Perry. Carter.
Keeping dominant World Cup line of Marchand Crosby Bergeron together.

I would probably have Vlasic Subban and burns in instead of Rielly gio and Hamilton myself.
There's a look and something close to what it could be.

What changes would you make?


9.) 13 Jan 2018 13:17:05
What lol I litterly made that up in my head lol. @yup.


10.) 13 Jan 2018 13:54:36
My lineup would look like

Hall McDavid Stamkos
Marchand Crosby Bergeron
Couturier Tavares Stone
Benn Getzlaf Scheifele
MacKinnon Giroux

Keith Doughty
Rielly Pietrangelo
Giordano Subban
Vlasic Parayko

Holtby
Price
Crawford.


11.) 13 Jan 2018 16:37:19
Someway I would have Brent Burns in. even If he isn't having a Norris kinda year., but No way he doesn't make my team.


12.) 14 Jan 2018 04:15:10
I'm actually more interested in it now. Let's face facts canada could have put 3 teams in it before and each one could have won it. So even if they had lost you probably weren't actually beating the best canada had to offer. right now I just feel like it's more of an even playing field. i'm actually a little excited for it now I think there's going to be more emotion and physical play then before.


 

 

 

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18 Feb 2019 00:52:25
That’d be a good trade for oilers. Jost will be a very good scoring forward and Barrie is what the oilers have been after for the last year or so. Honestly I think it’s too much from Colorado, given jost’ age and ceiling I think they (col) should hang on to him, if they are to trade him I think they’d want someone who is a bit younger and more of an offensive threat than Hopkins. Nothing against Hopkins but if scoring is what Colorado is after than I think jost will be a better scorer than Hopkins and with maker and Timmins making the team next year I don’t think this trade will make them better.

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14 Feb 2019 22:29:48
Don’t think sens would take that. Late 1st, Petan, a guy that peg fans seem to trade fast enough, also he’s small and what 23 years old and another 21/ 22 year old potential middle 6 winger. I would think that sens would/ should be able to fetch a 1st, roster player and a very good prospect not a late 1st and 2 decent to so so prospects. And island jet still thinks it too much yet again showing off his homer colours.

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31 Jan 2019 14:55:10
Hahah, I totally agree yup, I read Bobrovsky and Panarin and thought it’s not great but could be tweaked to work then I saw every other player of value from Columbus included and I literally lol’d. good stiff.

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31 Jan 2019 14:53:18
I think it’s too much from Florida. That 1st could be a lottery pick, not to mention it sounds like Florida may be a place Panarin resigns in the summer given geographical position and bigger city stuff. and the ocean.

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29 Jan 2019 00:49:35
I’m a seabrook fan, unfortunately he’s a shell of his former self. If this was 4/ 5 years ago I’d have been excited to see him in the blue and white, but given his age, rapid decline and long term contract it’d be foolish for the leafs to do this. Zaitsev is younger, cheaper and st this point may actually be better than seabrook. Makes zero sense for leafs. Chicago would gladly accept this deal.

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