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23 Dec 2016 06:23:38
Bob Stauffer (Oilers insider radio personality) recently commented about the Oilers looking at adding a scoring RW, preferably with term, either after the Xmas break or before the deadline (which I realize is essentially the same thing) . He didn't name any names but Stauffer has a dendancy to hint at things that end up actually happening so I'm wondering if something is already in the works. Many fans pondered bringing Iginla back to his hometown (ish) to finish his career, others reco'd players like Bobby Ryan. My thought was Gustav Nyquist. He's having an off year after a stellar one last season, but has proven he can score. Detroit may finally miss the playoffs for the first time in forever, and he has 2yrs left on a contract whereby a NMC kicks in at the end of the season. With Datsyuk gone and Zetterberg on the down slide of his career, maybe they are finally ready to restock.

Curious if folks see it as a plausible move, what it might take to get him, or if there are more viable options to consider instead.

I had a couple ponders, tho not at great length, re: proposals. They were:

To EDM: Gustav Nyquist
To DET: 2nd 2017, 3rd 2018, Griffin Reinhart

or

To EDM: Gustav Nyquist
To DET: Anton Slepyshev, Caleb Jones, 2017 4th

In mockery of Pinball: Thoughts?

Chirp

1.) 23 Dec 2016 08:01:26
Idk just seems like bits and pieces for a proven scorer in Gus. Need to give something the wings would actually want, i don't see them being great trading partners.


2.) 23 Dec 2016 13:22:31
You're probably right, BJ. My proposals are likely full of hesitation since I'm not going to be convinced that the Oilers make the playoffs this season until they actually MAKE the playoffs. A 1st might be necessary to get Nyquist, along with additional add-ons. That said, if the deadline is near and the Oilers are still in the position they're in now, what about 2017 1st, 2018 3rd, Anton Slepyshev for Nyquist?


3.) 23 Dec 2016 13:22:31
You're probably right, BJ. My proposals are likely full of hesitation since I'm not going to be convinced that the Oilers make the playoffs this season until they actually MAKE the playoffs. A 1st might be necessary to get Nyquist, along with additional add-ons. That said, if the deadline is near and the Oilers are still in the position they're in now, what about 2017 1st, 2018 3rd, Anton Slepyshev for Nyquist?


4.) 23 Dec 2016 21:20:07
DET would either want a top 4 D or picks and in the first trade they get picks and possibly a future NHL D. I don't think Slepyshev is someone they need or want. With the expansion draft coming it'll probably be a buyers market. If they plan a rebuild then I don't think it's too bad.


5.) 23 Dec 2016 22:52:17
Yeah I think OIlers would need to add the first for him and I think they'll sneak into the playoffs. Still seems a bit early for them to trade t away tho.


6.) 24 Dec 2016 19:56:23
As a Wings fan I'm surprised you guys think that highly of Nyquist, he's not very good 😅.


 

 

26 May 2016 02:12:46
To Van:
Gudbranson
5th round pick

To Fla:
McCann
2nd round pick
4th round pick


Surprising trade given the time of year. I personally think FLA wins it, but a decent trade for both.

Chirp

1.) 26 May 2016 02:15:27
Yes Florida wins it.


2.) 26 May 2016 02:16:14
it is a okay trade fla wins it but we need d depth and mccann the odd man out it is good.


3.) 26 May 2016 02:33:54
I absolutely hate it.


4.) 26 May 2016 02:34:41
Florida needed picks. Great trade by them.


5.) 26 May 2016 02:35:20
McCann and a 2nd. Seems awful for the Nucks, especially since they should be in rebuild mode. Almost as if the GM refuses that they need to rebuild.


6.) 26 May 2016 02:35:47
I mean we do need RHD but I think we could have gotten more. Not to mention we add a 2nd (hopefully the torts compensation not our 35th OA) but I just feel it's underwhelming.


7.) 26 May 2016 02:37:43
Who's going to play D for Florida with Mitchel, Cambell and now Gudbranson likely gone.


8.) 26 May 2016 02:57:31
Think Yak woulda been an option for them? I thought Petrovic woulda been the one to trade Yak for. What's McCann's ceiling?


9.) 26 May 2016 03:06:39
The more I think about it, it might be a pretty even trade. Van adds a big dude on D (decent, tho never lived to true expectations), FLA adds forward help but also a 2nd which could be used to add a prospect of Gudbranson's type. Plus I guess this is supposedly suggesting that Matheson is stepping into the NHL next season for the Panthers. And in reading twitter, it's sounding like this was an analytics-based trade, which is interesting.


10.) 26 May 2016 03:16:58
Canucks got destroyed.
Gubdrandson is a good defenceman, but certainly a dissapointment when was selected in the top 3 i believe. Becomes 3rd defenceman for Vancouver (their roster rn)

McCann is a great prospect, personally i thought McCann>Gub

Guess you never know.


11.) 26 May 2016 04:51:31
Sorry I meant 33rd*. I need to see more of Gudbrandon first. I wouldn't be to upset with a McCann for Gudbranson swap but add a 3rd instead and keep the 2nd,4th and 5ths off the deal. Why does Benning just love trading his 2nd round picks despite the fact that he's from a "scouting background"?

Every single year Benning has traded away a 2nd.
2014- a 2nd (Roland Mckeown) for Linden Vey
2015- a 2nd (Rassmus Andersson) for Sven Bärtschi
2016- a 2nd in the trade for Gudbranson
2016- a 2nd in the trade for Sutter
Dunno about that last one, but I think I'd like to have those other two back, 2 pretty good D prospects. Could be why our defensive prospects are lacking in quality.


12.) 26 May 2016 05:00:59
@Eb
I wanted the Oilers to take Petrovic in his draft year. That's looking like a bummer nowadays, he's looking like a great shutdown guy. I doubt FLA would be interested in Yak. Could see a decent D prospect trade for Yak out of CAR perhaps.


13.) 26 May 2016 06:49:55
@Chirp, really you don't think Panthers could use another winger? And yeah I think I'd be happy with that. I wanna believe Juulsen could happen but I'm not sure Yak would do well under Therien.


14.) 26 May 2016 07:01:33
Honestly, I was surprised to see the Preds trade for a forward in this trade. But after thinking about it a bit I suppose they do have a few older players that could use replacing so I suppose I kinda get it. But to trade for Yak as well on top of it? I just don't know what they'd trade away for him that Edm would be ok with, unless it's a dump and a pick or prospect. Jokinen and a 3rd? I dunno. I see Yak going elsewhere.


15.) 26 May 2016 20:03:29
@Chirp after this trade yeah it probably wouldn't work.
@Bud they still have Ekblad, Kulikov, Petrovic, Matheson.


 

 

26 Feb 2016 00:47:31
Ladd traded to Chicago.
That should get things rolling.

Chirp

 

 

25 Feb 2016 00:12:27
If Drouin is traded by the deadline, I'm going to make a low-percentage rando guess at the return:

To STL: Drouin
To TB: Schmaltz, Edmunson, 2nd


Better return if he is traded in the off-season. Rip away, though.

Chirp

1.) 25 Feb 2016 00:50:49
Remove edmundson.
You have a deal

Schmaltz is 1st pairing in ahl wolves will make top 4 jump next year and 2nd pick.


2.) 25 Feb 2016 04:08:35
@Colt55 (RussianTank) : Chris Wideman was the best defenceman in the AHL last year, and just signed a 2 year 1.6 million a year deal. AHL performance can be a good metric but means nothing.


3.) 25 Feb 2016 04:48:33
@sens1
Schmaltz will probably be Parayko v2.0 so he is worth $15mil/ yr immediately. And 8 Calders.


4.) 25 Feb 2016 05:58:28
Look at tj Brennan the numbers he puts up in the ahl but never gets to the show hard to judge people in the ahl.


5.) 25 Feb 2016 06:57:14
Congrats Chirp, you lost your virginity. Did it feel good? I see you had to come back and defend your performance though. It's okay, you can't please everyone. I know you've been waiting a long time for this, keep it up!


6.) 25 Feb 2016 13:43:56
Leafs17 funny ha ha ha ha ha

No you're not funny.


7.) 25 Feb 2016 13:50:44
Chirp @sens if you can't gauge a player by ahl performance or college performance or juniors poo erformance the how the he'll do we Guage a player. Guess we don't. Here let ne gauge by oilers standards. He was a first round pick so he holds infinite more value then his performance lol. Schmaltz 2nd for a cry baby player seems fair.


8.) 25 Feb 2016 16:12:01
You're just a rookie JF, put chirps pants back on for him and let him defend himself.


 

 

15 Jan 2016 19:31:06
To ARZ: Tinordi
To MTL: Stefan Elliott (just cleared waivers) and John Scott (all-star)

Not quite the return some of the duller Habs fans here had been saying he was worth.

Chirp

1.) 15 Jan 2016 19:35:49
Habs got the All Star forward they were looking for with that. LOL.


2.) 15 Jan 2016 19:38:09
Crap. Now Habs fans will say told ya so, Told ya Tinordi was worth an all star.


3.) 15 Jan 2016 19:44:50
Domi joining Team Pacific? Or is there an exception where someone at the caliber of Scott can play for another division since he's so good.


4.) 15 Jan 2016 19:56:59
I guess I have to bite my tongue on this one. Montreal did wind up getting an all star in return for Tinordi.

Sike. can't believe you short bus riders believed he would even come close to getting a decent return. What a joke.

The Montreal Canadiens, ladies and gentlemen. 5 wins since November without Price. Tell me again how they're a stanley cup contender even without him.


5.) 15 Jan 2016 20:09:20
Now how will MTL aquire Yakupov or Hopkins? Tinordi was always the key piece.


6.) 15 Jan 2016 21:19:47
The Coyotes Just Traded Scott and victor bartley to the tabs for Stefan Fournier and jarred tinordi.


7.) 15 Jan 2016 22:16:56
I hope this is just a deal that was done to open something up for another trade but probably not.


8.) 15 Jan 2016 23:35:09
This thing keeps trying to correct me. It was supposed to say Habs.


 

 

 

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06 Jul 2017 14:20:45
Peter Chiarelli said on record in the evening of July 1st that Oilers have had some talks with other teams about possible trades. I haven't kept up with recent Oilers news all too much, has any info slipped around regarding what sort of trades he was speaking of? Any names shown up in media? Kinda curious what position he'd be looking at. Most likely seems like it would be 6/7D (likely RHD) or 3rd line C. I know Cody Eakin was a supposed target, curious if they may be chatting with Vegas about him. Also wondering who it is Edm might be offering up in any possible trades.

Chirp

1.) 06 Jul 2017 15:20:54
Haven't heard anything in the last few days.


2.) 06 Jul 2017 15:49:25
I read that Strome told Chiarelli that's he's more comfortable at C. Might possibly mean there not looking for a 3 C.


3.) 06 Jul 2017 15:50:15
Heard rumblings about a gallahger for RNH trade.


4.) 06 Jul 2017 16:26:02
Not enough for RNH unfortunately, would have to add to that for sure - then again, EDM did take DD for some reason. Gallager would help with the RW depth, but don't know if EDM would be looking for that kind of pest. I'd rather give up Shaw and a prospect/ picks.


5.) 06 Jul 2017 18:34:44
The difference in contracts make a lot of difference mtl might have to add something small but it wouldn't have to be a lot.


6.) 06 Jul 2017 19:09:16
After comparing the two of them, they are actually pretty close, biggest difference is still position. Centers have more value than wingers.


 

 

03 May 2017 00:57:43
Good god, Don Cherry is an old bitter dementia-ridden quack. How is that bent twig still on tv? Ron McLean looks in pain trying to follow along with the utter gibberish spewing from that old farts slobbering mouth.

Chirp

1.) 03 May 2017 04:29:53
. wha?

You come up with insults I wouldn't even come up with if i tried.

''Dementia-ridden quack''.
''bent twig''
''utter gibberish spewing from that old farts slobbering mouth. ''

Chirp.
Chirp.
Chirp.


2.) 03 May 2017 08:12:48
Lol Barrie 😂.


3.) 03 May 2017 20:34:39
He is one of if not the most respected spokesmen for the NHL I personally enjoy his show.


4.) 05 May 2017 03:23:18
Well you personally think Marner is worth Patty Kane so that's not saying much bud.


5.) 05 May 2017 10:50:55
Why does that not surprise me, VB?


 

 

27 Apr 2017 06:50:23
Obviously I'm a homer for the Oilers and glad to see them take Game 1, but that was a great back and forth game. It didn't have the same ebb and flow for each team dominating in parts of every period, it felt like an equal battle throughout.

Regardless of the eventual outcome, this ANA/EDM series is going to be a good one.

Chirp

1.) 27 Apr 2017 07:11:45
Seemed like so many lost battles on the boards and give aways at the blue lines for the Oil. Felt like Oil stole one, the three or so shots that beat Talbot and hit posts helped too. Not to say Anaheim deserved it either I just think Oil can play a lot harder than that. Happy to see the team winning games without McDavid too.


2.) 27 Apr 2017 17:41:15
Adam Larsson looked like the second coming of Bobby Orr on that rush. didn't know he had that in him.
First 2 periods were really tight I thought, Talbot seemed a little shaky at times I thought. but did enough to win the game. Its nice that the Oilers don't have to rely just on McDavid for offense. ya contain him, Draisaitl gets 4 points. Letestu pops in 2.Oilers are a lot more than just McDavid. they are a lot more balanced team than I realized. so far so good.


3.) 27 Apr 2017 22:03:05
After the first two periods I was so happy that we didn't look out of place, or getting crushed. We belonged and I thought it was anyone's game/ series then. Def super happy with them getting the win and basically without McDavid leading the way. Such a good team win.

Drai, Larsson, Letestu, Talbot. All great games.
Getzlaf, Kesler and Perry are such D-bags! Wow. Never realized how much hacking, slashing and cross checking they do, especially away from the play. Getzlaf especially. Couldn't believe it.


 

 

20 Apr 2017 03:24:11
Look, I'm not trying to start anything. Caps won, cool cool, whatev. I want the Caps to win but leafs are playing well. It's up for grabs.

That said:
That disallowed goal for the Caps in the 3rd due to "goaltender interference."?

What.
The.
F**k?

That is one of the most ridiculous disallowed goals I've seen in a long time. Backstrom is never in the crease, holds his arms above Andersen to avoid contact, the very minor contact that does occur is a good 3 seconds before the shot (AND outside the crease), and maybe most importantly ANDERSEN GRABS BACKSTROMS LEG. Not only is it evident in the video, but even the sportsnet homers commented on it (yet still said "derp! yup! no gloall! derp!")

HOOOOW is that goalie interference?! Seriously. I'm still perplexed. That was such a BS call that my skin itches. Wow.

Chirp

1.) 20 Apr 2017 04:49:01
Im going for the Leafs. and I was surprised as well. so the fact they held on for the win was Ok to me. as i'm not a die Hard Leafs fan. jus an anti Ovie fan.


2.) 20 Apr 2017 05:17:22
Agreed. Also Gardiner was more or less holding Backstrom at the edge of the crease making contact unavoidable.


3.) 20 Apr 2017 06:42:40
Maybe I'm totally wrong on this, but doesn't the crease no longer really matter, at least in judging goaltender interference?

Regardless, I think what the league is going for is to have it so that essentially no contact is allowed with the goalie. It may not be the best outcome in some circumstances, but what it does do is allow for a lot more consistency and removes a lot of the grey zone that would be created if some contact is allowed while some is not.

I watched the game on and off, but don't remember seeing the play at any time, so I can't comment directly on it, but judging by the responses it seems to fall in line with what i said about the NHL seeming to want a more or less no tolerance policy on hits to the goalie.

Maybe not the most articulate response since I've been awake for about 44 of the past 48 hours, but I think it gets my idea across.


4.) 20 Apr 2017 09:01:47
@Shankar

If the NHL did do this it would be ridiculous.

A goalie has his crease and now he can just step up and get ''interfered'' by the guy that is screening him?

BS.


5.) 20 Apr 2017 11:19:33
That goal should have been a goal, refs were kinda mad not to allow that one. But the first one, it should've been goalie interference on Nick Backstrom, he ran right lver Freddy. So I guess either way, they got one goal and got one taken back. Again, I too am not trying to start anything cause I do agree with yiu, but I just feel like it could be something of a makeup call for the first goal.


6.) 20 Apr 2017 12:20:57
also, just saying, there have been way worse calls before. like the minny/ chicago offside. its just weird that you decide to make a post on this one only.


7.) 20 Apr 2017 12:34:58
also, i know i'm ramblin, but thiss one is about the actual post.

I'm pretty sure if the ref called it a goal on the ice and TOR challenged, there would still be a goal on the ice.


i think its because the ref made the stupid first call of waving it off in the first place which made it hard to overturn. Cause, the overturn had to be fully conclusive, which in this case, is like 95% conclusive, but not entirely. Just because of that little 'nudge', i'm pretty sure its hard to overturn the goal. If there was nothing (like the Gardiner goal/ Kadri interference game 1), then it can be oveturned. However, because it was 'technically' inconclysive over whether the leafs dman shoved Backstrom into Freddy, it seemingly had to be considered a nogoal. i personally had no problems with it of it was a goal, however, i do PARTIALLY understand where the refs are coming from on the call.


8.) 20 Apr 2017 20:53:32
Agreed TopShelf, the call on the ice holds a lot of weight and that's probably the main reason it was a no goal.


 

 

03 Apr 2017 19:48:43
Anyone else hate this new positioning system for the playoffs? Montreal is 1st in the Atlantic with 99pts. Boston is 2nd in Atlantic and have 92pts. Toronto is 3rd in the Atlantic and have 91pts.

Meanwhile, NYR have 100pts and are in the 1st wild card position.

Dumb.

Chirp

1.) 03 Apr 2017 19:55:18
Ya. I like the old way. I hope they change it back.


2.) 03 Apr 2017 20:12:55
The NHL is very stubborn, however with all of the backlash they have been getting over the last few years for this system I can see this being talked about in upcoming meetings.


3.) 03 Apr 2017 22:51:03
old way is better, but they main reason for the new way was to hype up division rivalries, which isn't a bad thing.

what didn't make sense was the changed schedule so that teams play less in their own division so that all teams get a home and away vs all teams.


4.) 04 Apr 2017 00:00:33
I understand WHY they did it, but that's not the point. This format is ridiculous. Rangers won't have home advantage in spite of being better all season than any team in the opposing division? That's absurd. The whole thing is absurd.


5.) 04 Apr 2017 06:43:27
I get why they did it, too. But the system is still trash. The team that finishes second in the atlantic is going to get home ice, but they'll only have the 6th most points in the conference, which is stupid. Not to mention NYR maybe having more points than the winner of the atlantic. The only decent thing with this is that the top 8 teams will still get in and almost surely will always get in, because it's hard to imagine a time when the 6th place team in one division has more points than the 3rd most in their competing division.

What I'd like to see is 1-16 seeding for the playoffs, but for a myriad of reasons it's basically impossible. Maybe a simple 1-8 in each conference could work, as that's similar to what was in place before.


 

 

 

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19 Jul 2017 14:17:45
@Vancity: Drai+? No. I agree that the OP is absurd but Drai is making a name for himself and is younger. Straight up is more reasonable but I'd rather Edm keeps Drai.

As for the proposal, Klefbom or Larsson would need to be added by Edm, and possibly a prospect like Benson. In other words, FAR too much to make Isles bite. Would ruin what Edm has going. Trade makes no sense for Edm.

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17 Jul 2017 21:43:06
HAHAHAH!
This can't be a legit proposal, can it? The top 2 Philly players for overpaid Phaneuf and scraps? Giroux AND Voracek would start with Chabot, plain and simple.

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17 Jul 2017 21:40:52
I don't foresee any further tweaks to the Oilers lineup in the near future. They took grand steps last season, made some minor lineup changes earlier this off-season, and can still afford RNH as a 2/ 3C under the current cap so why mess with what was working last season? They're entering playoff mode and moving a two-way C of RNH's calibre would be foolhardy. Maybe next off-season they explore options but RNH will be an Oiler this season barring a very solid proposal (which this one is not) .

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17 Jul 2017 21:36:37
Wennberg is CBJs 1/ 2C. This would make them exponentially weaker at C than they already are. Horrible trade for them, it's completely one-sided for MTL.

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12 Jul 2017 01:24:43
And DAL, having just lost Eakin (and now Faksa from this proposal), what do they think about this?

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Every comment I make is reasonable, it's the readers of said comments who are wrong. :P

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This 88 fella sounds like a real winner.

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I've thought the same from the beginning. He may get a decent player in the return (SJ seems like a recent rumored interest so let's say Hertl), but beyond that I'd pin the remainder on a 3/4 young player, a B-prospect, and a 2nd. At best.

Kessel is a one-D player (deny it all you want, leafs fans, it's still true), he has a monster contract that could hurt a team down the line, and is coming off a not so great season where his value has dropped a bit. If SJ offered up Hertl and those other pieces, I'd take it as Nonis. I don't see a 2015 1st coming from a team for Kessel, and only a 2016 1st being up for grabs unless I'm a team like the Wings who really don't need a 1st round pick to build a team.

Disagree all you want, at least I defend my position.

Chirp

 

 

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GOOD:
CBJ ditches a useless contract.
TOR ditches a player they highly overpaid for.

CBJ saves money.
TOR can afford the cash strap.

CBJ gets a player they are hoping can revitalize his career.
TOR opens cap space.

BAD:
CBJ gets a player that has performed well under his pay grade and still has years left. Could be a crutch down the line.
TOR opens cap space but since Horton is on LTIR, they can never go below the cap beyond what his cap hit would be if he were a player (as per the CBA) so a full rebuild where they are a bottom-cap team cannot apply as they restructure their team unless they take his contract on as part of their cap. Essentially, if they are below the cap by more than what Horton would make, they still absorb that cap hit. Not a lot of room to build with.

I'm impressed that very few leafs fans here didn't run with this trade as a "HAHA CLARKSON TRADED! EVERYONE ELSE IS DUMB!"-kinda trade. There's no clear winner here at the moment. It's a pretty darn straight-across move that (I can't believe I'm saying this): helps both teams.

Hopefully it works out for both.

Chirp

 

 

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Chuck, if I really need to explain this to you again, then you're even more dense than you let on.

Oilers are 10-11-3 since that disaster Eakins was fired. They're trying, and they're not doing all that terrible. Leafs fired their coach while in playoff contention, have been in a downward spiral ever since, and have done NOTHING to try and fix that. The players are trying, but CLEARLY the system is flawed. And the "coach" behind the bench has no business being there. It was a ridiculous move to begin with, has proven to be even worse than could have been predicted, but hey it's McDavid or Eichel so why try and fix it, right? Generational players come along and suddenly the leafs are the worst team in the league as soon as mgmt realizes they don't have a team that can win the cup? Pathetic. What a group of losers. And leafs fans just deny it or go along with it because they're just as bad. Blinders on forever. You're sad, man. Just plain sad.

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