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21 Sep 2019 17:00:19
“According to sourced from the Jets, the team has received a substantial offer from the Buffalo sabres for winger Patrik Liane.

The offer included RHD Ristolainen, winger connor Sheary and two first-round picks. The deal would obviously be contingent on an extension which Liane continues to skate in Switzerland waiting to receive”

Not my words. Enjoy.

yupp

1.) 21 Sep 2019 17:17:09
Interesting, though I’ll remain skeptical until one of the major guys report on it. As for the trade itself? It would certainly help both teams, and EichelLaine would be nasty.


2.) 21 Sep 2019 17:21:48
Not likely true if it was supposedly leaked from the Jets. Nothing. Ever. Leaks. From. TNSE.


3.) 21 Sep 2019 18:12:45
I'm interested to see if this plays out as a real trade, considering its worse than most proposals I've seen posted lately lol.


4.) 21 Sep 2019 19:28:35
- *hears something he doesn’t like. - *crosses arms and cries “NOT TRUE, nothing. Ever. Leaks. From. My. Team! ” Lmao. Too good.

This just shows the value a team believes to be of Liane. NJ and Buffalo are going after Liane with offers.
This offer is even worse than any Risto/ Reinhart deal you guys have cried to not being close. Man I hope Liane is trades. You guys make me hate the Jets. And I’ve always liked and kinda cheered them on in a way.


5.) 21 Sep 2019 20:28:45
Don't get your panties in a knot yupp. I'm simply stating that if the rumour supposedly came from Winnipeg, then you can 100% put it down as fake.

Nothing, absolutely nothing, is EVER leaked from Winnipeg. Buffalo might be leaking it to see if it garners any interest but it wasn't leaked by Winnipeg. I'm sorry facts upset you so much. If you knew anything about the Jets, you would already know this.


6.) 21 Sep 2019 20:53:29
Hahaha. Lmfao. ✌️✌️.


7.) 21 Sep 2019 21:33:44
FYI Marcus, When I said “enjoy” at the end of that post it was for the rest of the people on this site because I knew you would provide some entertaining remarks. You did not disappoint. I appreciate you.


8.) 21 Sep 2019 22:44:57
It’s funny how memarkusjoe’s ‘local’ rumors are credible, but when someone else posts a WPG runout it’s can't be trusted at all.

This dude is a clown.


9.) 21 Sep 2019 23:03:36
After Laine through some team mates under the bus, I'm guessing they won't want him back as a team mate. Basically said he had a bad year last year cause his linemates. Guys a selfish lazy player. don't care how skilled he is, locker room cancer. Any team would be fools to give up more than a 1st and top 4 de.


10.) 21 Sep 2019 23:19:07
Does marcus work security in Winnipeg's head office and monitors all employees phone calls? Just don't know how he knows everything that goes on there? Wonder if they know he's on a website letting everyone know their inner workings and who they're looking at trading. Only cause things he says are facts, not just his regular fan opinion.


11.) 21 Sep 2019 23:54:11
I agree with typo. It’s one thing to love your team, but open your eyes to reality. Between the Jets fans, the Leaf fans, and the one Blues guy on this site, no one has any respect here. You all need to grow up.


12.) 22 Sep 2019 03:38:24
So all the rumours with Laine came from the other 4 or 5 teams? But 100% not from winnpeg? Seems fishy.


13.) 22 Sep 2019 11:43:44
"Nothing, absolutely nothing, is EVER leaked from Winnipeg. "

*google search for the Evander Kane locker room drama from 2015* =

There's reportedly more to the Evander Kane saga than some inappropriate attire.

According to multiple reports, including CBC News, the Winnipeg forward failed to show up for the Jets' game in Vancouver this week following an incident involving teammate Dustin Byfuglien.

It was reported that Kane missed a pre-game meeting, and that he couldn't be reached until approximately an hour before the start of the game, when Kane answered his cellphone and said he wouldn’t be playing against the Canucks.

A few hours after the reports surfaced, the Jets placed Kane on the injured-reserve list. Kane, who has been playing injured for most of the season, will miss at least the next two games.

The report also said that, earlier in the day, Kane showed up to the arena wearing a track suit instead of a suit — a violation of the team's dress code — and that Byfuglien later threw those clothes into the shower.

The Winnipeg Free Press had reported that Kane was scratched because of the dress-code violation.

^^ The Winnipeg Free Press.


14.) 22 Sep 2019 12:56:22
If the leafs had the cap I’d give

Nylander, Lilijgren, 1st 2020, 1st 2021 and 1st 2022

For

Laine

He’d be putting up 60+ goal seasons on a line with Tavares and Marner.


15.) 22 Sep 2019 15:54:43
Hahahaha Dave. That HAS. TO. BE. WRONG. Nothing, absolutely nothing, is EVER leaked from Winnipeg.
Lmfao. I really really hope Liane is traded.


16.) 22 Sep 2019 16:04:52
The 3 firsts would be nice vbbb, but an overpaid winger and a bust prospect would need to be replaced with something better.


17.) 22 Sep 2019 16:20:07
@Drw Dave, you're funny. You realize there is a difference between the Winnipeg Free Press which is a newspaper in case you don't know and TNSE which is the group that actually owns the Jets right?

The info could have come from a 1000 different sources. Just none from TNSE. I'm disappointed in you. Lame effort.


18.) 22 Sep 2019 16:57:15
How is Liljegren a bust prospect? Lol. I hate the Leafs and even I know he’s a good D prospect.


19.) 22 Sep 2019 17:45:57
‘Im disappointed in you’

Who asked for your seal of approval lmfao.


20.) 22 Sep 2019 17:54:17
Lmao. It’s because he’s not a Jet Vertius. Just ANOTHER example of how much a huge homer he is. It’s absolutely hysterical. Super entertaining. If Liljegren was a Jet he would be a slam dunk top pairing D prospect, because he’s not, he’s a bust.


21.) 22 Sep 2019 19:04:25
@Memarcus Now I'm concerned you might be trying to tell me that the Winnipeg Free Press is involved in fake news. If you recall this story, it was 100% true and there was multiple sources reporting the same thing.

The fact that the organization would want to keep it tight-lopped and handle it internally doesn't mean nothing is ever leaked.

I admire your unyielding loyalty to your favorite franchise, but you come across as a 10 year old hockey fan whose favorite player can't be matched statistically by anyone. "Laine's better" only works once. Its virtually impossible to debate with you on here. Its not that you overvalue Jets players, its that you extremely undervalue other teams players in comparison.


22.) 22 Sep 2019 19:29:04
Actually it's hard to debate with you Dave. When we say that a player is to old, or doesn't fit our needs, or just isn't good enough, we have every right to. You're asking for our player, that we have no reason to trade, why shouldn't we be picky?

Laine has done more before he turned 21 than all but a handful of players in hockey history. But we're just supposed to accept your evaluation that Laine is nothing special and every single prospect offered for Laine easily passes him in ability even though many are the same age or older and have done less.

But you've deemed them as fair value, so we're not allowed to disagree with you because we're obviously homers.

If Laine is so worthless why are there 10 proposals a day begging for Laine? Especially when according to you the Jets are anyways getting the better player? Could it be that you know they're lowball offers and you're doing your best to justify them to other similarly biased posters, so you can whine about how unreasonable Jets fans are?


23.) 22 Sep 2019 20:31:24
I’ve never seen a single post on here ‘begging’ for Laine. It’s just people posting things for fun.

See, the issue with you memarcusjoe (asides from your incredible bias and hypocrisy) is that you take things too seriously. You see someone talking about a Jets player and instantly go full tilt because they aren’t being referred to as gods, then you start spewing out false facts and insult other teams players and prospects in a wild and sorry attempt at justifying your own players.

And then, when called out on your stupidity, you immediately call all of us delusional, biased etc. when in reality you just can’t swallow your ego and admit you are wrong. The very fact that it’s always ALL OF US and never YOU that is wrong is telling enough.

Your a head case and a clown.


24.) 22 Sep 2019 22:05:00
Yah saying he’s a bust is very ignorant he’s definitely proven to not have the offensive potential he’s thought to have but he has a solid defensive ability very few defensive deffensman can skate like he can. I could see him developing into something like Anton Stralman.


 

 

18 Sep 2019 16:11:11
-Byfuglien using this leave of absence to ponder his hockey future. As tweeted out by Bob McKenzie. Would be a massive blow to Winnipeg if he was to retire or not be all there this season. With already losing Myers and a Trouba, their D without Buff would be one of the worst in the league.
And with the central being so strong and the other problems with a Liane and Connor, They need to get their stuff together soon!
Does this Buff and Liane issue make Winnipeg want to trade Laine for D help even more?

-Rantanens agent says “not close at all” with contract negotiations.

-Calgary and NJ were talking about a possible Brodie for Coleman swap. Would save $2.8M for Calgary to sign Tkuchuk would be a huge blow to the back end but they need some money somehow. What a steal and addition for NJ that would be.

yupp

1.) 18 Sep 2019 16:15:29
Man. WPG could honestly be a bottom feeder team this year and that’s just crazy to say.


2.) 18 Sep 2019 17:15:38
I also read that Laine and Rantanen have the same agent and he said it was not close for both players in regards to balancing term and AAV.


3.) 18 Sep 2019 17:31:25
I think with how things have gone so far and seem to be going, A 3 year deal for both, Rantanen $9M and Liane $7-7.5M. That’s just what I would try to do as the team.
Rantanen def worth more as the more well rounded player for sure. Rant could even get more $$ for more longer term. $10M for 7/ 8 years could be great for both sides there.

Anyone know any rumoured numbers asked or offered by either sides there?
I was actually surprised at the $$ number for Boeser and Mcavoy. Two great deals.


4.) 18 Sep 2019 18:39:34
Now Maurice's refusal to play Niku, Nogier and Poolman a bit over the last 2 seasons is coming to haunt this team. Now we have Morrissey and an group of 7/ 8 caliber d-men and rookies who Maurice won't play. Laine and overpaid Little have zero chemistry yet Maurice forces them to play together and trade for a #2 center for the playoffs. I hate to say this but the Jets are a mess and unless they are able to change some things they will not make the playoffs.


5.) 18 Sep 2019 19:04:29
If Buff retires it’s an interesting position for the Jets as I believe I read they would be under the cap floor. And need to sign one of the wingers right away. I forgot what I read about penalties and all that, it seems like a complicated scenario.
If Buff doesn’t play this year that’s Buff, Trouba, Myers and Chariot. 4 of the top 5 minute D men from last season. Pretty big change.


6.) 18 Sep 2019 22:07:26
The Jets deserve better man.


7.) 18 Sep 2019 22:37:28
Wow we get it you have the Tradebreaker app on your phone.


 

 

14 Sep 2019 15:57:38
TOR: Marner, Holl, Marincin

DET: Larkin, 2031 6th round pick.

Thoughts?

yupp

1.) 14 Sep 2019 16:46:33
I literally just made a comment about how we would finally be done with this then I see this post. Yupp Yupp Yupp.


2.) 14 Sep 2019 17:43:58
Sorry. Larkin for Liane*!


3.) 14 Sep 2019 22:21:05
That’s much better! I would definitely prefer Liane on my team. Way better than Marner and Laine!

Beware of Liane, the next great player of all time!


4.) 15 Sep 2019 07:10:21
Top 5 goal scorer of all time maybe.


5.) 16 Sep 2019 15:52:52
Who’s a top 5 goal scorer of all time maybe?


6.) 16 Sep 2019 16:52:10
Laine.


 

 

06 Sep 2019 21:43:32
TOR: Marner

DET: Larkin

Thoughts?

Maybe Tor adds Holl and/ or Marincin and Det adds a 6th rounder.

yupp

1.) 06 Sep 2019 22:23:27
Larkin us worth more then Marner hands down.


2.) 07 Sep 2019 01:50:34
Sep 2019 19:29:19
tHE ReD wINGs wILl nOT bE trAdINg LaRkiN aT tHiS tImE

unless Mcdavid, MacKinnon, Karlsson, The KHL, Greenland, the city of Ottawa, and trouba are all part of the trade🤣.


3.) 07 Sep 2019 12:21:12
Any deal involving Marner would either need a 100+ point player coming back or a deal that destroys the other teams future.


4.) 07 Sep 2019 16:14:40
Larkin>Marner.


5.) 07 Sep 2019 19:52:11
@Vb. Why would a 100+ point player need to be coming back when Marner hasn’t even hit that mark yet?


6.) 07 Sep 2019 23:04:24
Because he was 6 points away from that mark and is still a child wait until he’s an adult he’ll be unreal.


7.) 07 Sep 2019 23:08:07
What about a three way trade:

Leafs: Laine
Jets: Larkin
Detroit: Marner

Who wins and who loses here?


8.) 08 Sep 2019 08:03:18
Leafs get absolutely destroyed.


 

 

06 Sep 2019 17:42:55
MTL: Domi

WPG: Liane

Thoughts?

yupp

1.) 06 Sep 2019 19:29:19
tHE jeTS wILl nOT bE trAdINg lAiNe aT tHiS tImE

unless Mcdavid, MacKinnon, Karlsson, The KHL, Greenland, the city of Ottawa, and trouba are all part of the trade🤣.


2.) 06 Sep 2019 19:51:17
One local rumour for teams that call about Laine is that Chevy is asking for a good, young roster player with some term and 2 firsts/ A prospects.

So, it doesn't sound like Laine will be moved unless or is a pretty good return.

The Jets needs are 2C and top 4 RHD.   Wingers, bottom pairing defenseman and goalies have minimal value to the Jets.


3.) 06 Sep 2019 22:17:29
Honestly, I'm not sure Montreal's does this anymore. Domi is just too important for the team.


4.) 07 Sep 2019 16:03:43
I don't believe that The Jets will be trading Laine soon, especially to the Habs unless they are getting quality not quantity back and Domi is not the type of quality the Jets need.


5.) 12 Sep 2019 18:49:26
hmm let's see North American vrs Finn. noooooooo


 

 

 

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22 Sep 2019 16:16:15
Hello Mr. Marcus and Mr. Islandjet.
Question for you, IF* Liane was to be traded, say to one of maybe Carolina, Nee Jersey, Buffalo, Montreal, Anaheim, LAK or Detroit. What would you want and expect back from each team?

yupp

1.) 22 Sep 2019 16:38:22
Nothing. I highly doubt the Jets have any intention of trading Laine.

It's pointless trying to start a civil discussion on this board about theoretical trade values IF Laine was traded. Almost everyone here suffers severely from recency bias and can't possibly evaluate trades objectively and also taking team needs into account.

So it will just end up with a bunch of whining and name calling.


2.) 22 Sep 2019 17:06:54
The Jet shouldn't trade Laine at this time, but if they do any possible return has to be quality rather than quantity.


3.) 22 Sep 2019 17:57:55
No no no, All you do is bash all the trade posts involving Jets players because they aren’t good enough. So here’s your chance to say what those players are worth. I want your trade ideas/ expectations on record here since you bash all them. So, if he is traded, what would you expect to be the return. Players names please. Simple discussion, I’m not bashing you in anyway, just want to know from the Jets fans what they would expect back if player was to be traded.


4.) 22 Sep 2019 17:59:17
Islandjet I would agree with you, if I was to trade Liane I would want quality over quantity as well, to still try and be a cup contender and not take a step back.
Can you give some examples/ names of the quality you would think would be offered by other teams?


5.) 22 Sep 2019 18:07:21
If we do play along for fun though, what kind of grounds rules do you want us to set for this exercise yupp.

Going from the offers that you guys all deem as fair here, for evaluating Laine it would be:

- Jets fans can ONLY base Laine's value on last season and accept that we will only get half of that value, at best, because we have to trade him.
- At 21, Laine is a finished product, will never, ever get any better and is starting to go downhill.
- Just because every fan base here wants Laine, it is only because he's a crappy player and you're just trying to help us out.

When Jets fans evaluate players from other teams:

- If they are a current player, we can ONLY evaluate them on their career year and have to accept they will continue to improve no matter how old they are.
- We can only ask for 4th line players unless they are over 30 years old, then we can request a 3rd liner.
- If we ask for a prospect, we must evaluate them at their maximum potential minimum, even if they are the same age or older than Laine and have shown nothing yet.   As prospects always reach their maximum potential and never bust (except for Laine) .

I would imagine that's what you would consider reasonable?   Or, would any asks based on this still be too unreasonable by Jet fans?


6.) 22 Sep 2019 18:13:06
It’s simple. Very very simple. What would you want back in a trade for Liane. Names of players from other teams you would expect/ want in a trade for him - Lianes value to you with names of other players coming back in the trade.
Very simple. You don’t need to complicate it.


7.) 22 Sep 2019 18:14:05
No need for another response besides your value of Liane with names of players you believe would be involved in any Liane trade.


8.) 22 Sep 2019 18:44:28
No matter what players Memarcusjoe and I would think would be fair compensation for Laine or Connor it would just become fodder for the list of trollers that claim we're homers and unrealistic so why should we bother.


9.) 22 Sep 2019 19:15:15
As Islandjet says, it's pointless. Just look at all the offers on the main page for Laine now. Objectively, you can see all are incredibly lowball offers, trying to get something for nothing.

Yet Jet fans are the ones being accused of being biased homers for turning them down.


10.) 22 Sep 2019 20:37:39
What do you two believe Lianes value is. Name some players from other teams you believe would be offered. Simple as that. Why are you so sacred to say? Just answer the question.


11.) 22 Sep 2019 20:38:40
Ok. If they are low ball offers. Then answer my question. What’s his value to you guys. Name some players you would expect in an offer. Very very simple. Don’t deflect or ignore. Answer the question.


12.) 22 Sep 2019 20:45:34
If it's pointless for you guys to actually make a proposal concerning laine then it's pointless for you to keep going against everyone on here that makes one. But yet you continue to do so.


13.) 22 Sep 2019 23:37:37
I’m not a jets fan. But I would like to play this game.
Carolina would for sure be a top 4 defenseman going back to the jets. Maybe not Pesce or Slavin but possibly Dougie Hamilton? That would be the base maybe with a small add from Carolina.

I imagine anything from New Jersey would have to involve hischier. They don’t exactly have a lot of disposable players but Laine playing with hall and Hughes could be magic. This fits for the jets because they get a young centre man that can play second line minutes. Only a year apart in age too.

I could see something being worked out with buffalo around Risto or Reinhart. I think if it’s either than buffalo adds but if it’s both then it’s much closer in value.
I’m a Habs fan but I genuinely don’t see the Habs having anything valuable to help the jets now. Unless they worked something out around Jeff Petry potentially. I think the jets would rather keep Laine than take Petry.

Anaheim has an abundance of forward prospects they could use as a base in any Laine trades but I don’t believe Winnipeg needs prospects and I don’t see any value on Anaheim’s roster that would fit the jets needs and timeline/ preferred Player age. LA could send maybe Martinez and some picks/ prospects. But I think they’d have to be good picks or prospects because Martinez is old. Not sure how that would work for either team. Last Detroit, assuming Detroit won’t deal Larkin for the world, Detroit needs to get further into the rebuild before we could consider them contenders in the Laine sweepstakes.

But I believe Larkin would be equal or more value for Laine from Detroit. But based of team needs and preference, I don’t think this would work out. Keeping in mind this is all hypothetical and that I don’t believe Laine is going to be traded. Also chevys ask is based on the jets perceived value of Laine. Not the way the rest of the league sees it especially recently. In the event he does get traded, it’ll be less than chevys ask but more than other teams garbage.


14.) 23 Sep 2019 01:59:08
Lol Bergevin, nice effort but you didn’t even really completely answer the post when it was meant for two Jets fans not you. Just a bunch of blah blah.
I want exact names in the packages or single person these two Jets fans think Lianes value is.
Not, oh well it would start with so and so and be a so and so add on or blah blah.


15.) 23 Sep 2019 04:05:26
My bad. Just thought I would give it a try.


16.) 23 Sep 2019 06:05:40
How many times can one person spell LAINE wrong? Bergevin you played the game wrong, lol. This is yuppies site and he rules it with an iron fist. Bergevin and habby are too good for this conversation, let the 3 stooges battle this one out. 😂.


17.) 23 Sep 2019 07:14:47
Since memarcus/ islandjets=same person, is too afraid to post what he truly believes, i'm going to assume based on what he was asking for Trouba and what he's be turning down for Laine, he's wants/ hope for a return like this:

Carolina: Slavin, Necas, Fleury

Win:Laine

New Jersey:Hischier, Severson, Butcher

MTL: Kotkaniemi, Brooks, Phoeling, Gallagher





Jets:Laine.


18.) 23 Sep 2019 09:53:23
Hamilton, Necas & 2nd for Laine

Ristolainen & Reinhart for Laine

Hischier & Severson for Laine


 

 

17 Sep 2019 16:15:13
-What a deal for Vancouver with Boeser. Great contract.

-Liane says in interview while practicing in Switzerland that the bold out isn’t about money, he says he wants top line minutes with Wheeler and Schiffle. I don’t see a problem with that, that’s a great line and you still have good wingers with Connor and Ehlers to play second line. Super loaded top line like Boston might not be a bad thing. ? I also don’t think Liane should get any more than Wheeler tho, $8.5M?

yupp

1.) 17 Sep 2019 18:10:56
OH my how far would Jeff o Neil throw marner under the bus if he had cause this much trouble.


2.) 17 Sep 2019 18:57:51
I agree that Laine would be on the top line on any NHL team. However, I don’t think any player should come out in public and say that “there are top lines and then there is our line. ” That is not going to sit well with some players. I think he will be traded.


3.) 18 Sep 2019 04:26:12
Laine is referring to being saddled with Little since he joined the Jets whom he has zero chemistry with. Unfortunately it seems Maurice plans to do the same this year so no wonder Laine wants a change. Maurice is the cause of a lot of the Jets problems. However even though Laine has a good point he has to learn to shut up as these comments will not endear him to the fans when he comes back.


4.) 20 Sep 2019 23:11:05
He's pretty much saying he's better than wheeler and schiefele. what a joke. if he's really as great as he thinks he is, he shouldn't have a lack of chemistry with anyone on the Jets team. but apparently he needs to be surrounded with good players, which leads me to believe that he's really not that great.


 

 

15 Sep 2019 15:05:25
Wow Boston’s got a great culture of not overpaying guys. Great contract for Mcavoy. I thought he was going to get $7/ 8M on a shorter term deal.
I read yesterday something about the 2015 draft, could be the best draft ever. And Boston has three picks in a row with Chabot, Barzel and Connor all picked after their three picks. Imagine they picked those three. Didn’t double check that, just read in an article. Interesting tidbit.

yupp

1.) 16 Sep 2019 03:55:32
At first I thought the Weresnki and McAvoy were solid for both sides and they mostly are. I’m now leaning more towards the teams winning these deals. Yes they have to be qualified at 7+ for there 4th years but they probably should be making that long term anyway. The teams stole a couple million in cap space for 3 years.


2.) 16 Sep 2019 12:36:07
They are able to do it as the leaders (and/ or best players) of the team bought into that mentality and make less than they could elsewhere. Detroit had similar success with Lidstrom — said this is the best player/ leader of our team and will be the highest paid, and everybody else has to get in line behind him.

I suspect Brayden Point’s deal will reflect a similar mentality, given that other stars on that team have signed team friendly deals (I don’t think point is going to get anything close to what Marner signed for, even if it’s an 8 year deal but that’s just a guess) .


3.) 16 Sep 2019 18:20:00
Point contract will probably be smaller in Tampa because of the tax difference just like all the other guys they sign.


4.) 16 Sep 2019 22:01:49
If Point gets 7.5 million in Tampa he will be making just as much as Marners 10.9 million in Toronto because of the tax difference.


5.) 17 Sep 2019 02:10:49
I read about a study that KPMG had done regarding the impact of playing in different jurisdictions and the impact on after-tax salary. It’s not that big a difference.


6.) 17 Sep 2019 18:15:23
Yeah and for every one you read there a 5 more that says it makes a huge difference I'll stick to the majority.


7.) 17 Sep 2019 20:06:35
I'll stick to the one that exists and was performed by experts.


8.) 17 Sep 2019 22:01:43
I'll stick to ones that were performed by those who have actually seen it first hand.


 

 

14 Sep 2019 16:06:17
My initial thought when I seen Marner sign 6 years $10.893M Orr was that if the reports were true a few days ago that he turned down 7/ 8 year deals of $11M, That he got ripped by fans and media so bad the last few days, that he himself wanted to put an end to this and said let’s make this deal now I’m sick of this. The public pressure was enough to want to just end it.
And I just watched Friedman’s interview on it and he said the same thing. Also noting the struggles they will have after this season with only Rielly signed on D. Barrie will want like $8M. Muzzin will want a large amount. Anderson up in two years. Reilly keeps this play up he’ll want like $10M+.
Is the Leafs window right now this season? Will they have as good a chance next year or years after with the cap troubles?

Leafs now have 3 players in the top 7 paid in the league. Yikes.
Mcdavid $12.5M
Panarin $11.6M
Mathews $11.6M
Karlsson $11.5M
Tavares $11M
Doughty $11M
Marner $10.89M.

yupp

1.) 14 Sep 2019 16:13:03
This isn’t bashing or anything what so ever.
Two simple points for discussion.
-Do you think the player himself just wanted to put an end to this and get a deal done?
I do, and props to Marner for that. I even tho I still believe it’s a bit of an overpayment for sure, props to him for not holding out for more or as much as Mathews like was always reported. Good for you, get it done, only missed one day of training camp, get there and join your team you have a big season ahead.

-And, is the Leafs window to win the cup now all of a sudden like this season now? Is this the best team they will probably have for a while? Unless they somehow have some amazing ELC cheap players come up, where will they find the money to pay the D core? Only real hope in the pipe is Sandin and Liljegren? No 1st picks last or this season? Just simple discussion, is their window now?
No bashing at all, sorry Leafs17 for anything that hurts your feelings buddy. (Always feel I need to say that upfront from now on) .


2.) 14 Sep 2019 16:43:53
Marner is a steal of a deal tho for his age it’s more valuable then all besides McDavid.


3.) 14 Sep 2019 16:50:05
Due to their cap crunch, they could be the Blue Jackets of this season where they have to go all in.

How they add more to this at deadline to go all in is questionable? Who would be the odd guys out to bring in the better players?

Connor Brown? Zach Hyman? Cody Ceci?


4.) 14 Sep 2019 17:03:01
Lol sounds like a pretty good problem to have — you know guys can be traded right?

They are definitely all in this year. But they will be for the next five. Yeah they may lose a muzzin or barrie next year but the cap is going to keep creeping higher so it’s not as desperate as you seem to want to make it. Their window isn’t closing this season with that many young stars and they don’t have any boat anchor contracts.


5.) 14 Sep 2019 17:24:20
I’ve tried to tell these people the same thing unsportsmanlike. I don’t mind having a lot of high end talent that need to get paid. I’m sure they’ll have to shuffle guys around over the years to keep others, big deal. They kept their core together like Dubas said he would and many people laughed. Did he over pay, maybe? I don’t know the exact percentages but when the penguins won the cup they had 6 guys taking up a huge portion of the cap. Why don’t we discuss the oilers now, bahaha.


6.) 14 Sep 2019 17:30:24
Hey look, the thing is, no matter what, the Leafs signed all three of the big three, and John Tavares, and their cast is still damn solid. Why are we looking 2+ years in the future when right now this is prolly the best leaf team to be iced in possibly the last few decades? This upcoming offseason, Barrie likely walks, and Muzzin is likely retained a 6x4 or so, since he's an older UFA he's not going to be getting crazy term or AAV. Cecis gone as well, so 4M off the books, and then the bext summer Freddy can be had for like 7-8M like MAF. And mos up in three years so that's a later issue. All with increasing cap. AM, WN, JT and MM were the biggest kssues and they're all here.


7.) 14 Sep 2019 19:50:57
Im not sure if I’m a genius or if everyone else is just ignorant. There is a thing called inflation and there is a strong possibility that the cap could increase to 100 million sooner rather then later. Multiple theories support this such as expansions for example.


8.) 14 Sep 2019 20:52:56
Genius is a stretch but yes most are ignorant. Yupper looks for things to talk about other teams because his team is brutal. They were given the best player in the world and are ranked #26 this year, ouch! I love that I’m always in his head though.


9.) 15 Sep 2019 04:53:17
My team is brutal %100 and I’ve said that for a year or so now. You should know, you hang on my every word.
Why are you crying?
“Maybe” an overpayment? Lmao. Whatever you need to tell yourself man. Leafs have a great team this season
I’m a huge fan of Barrie and Kapanen, and love Reillya game. They have a lot better team than last year, but you won’t have as good a team next year, but they’ll still be pretty damn good. Hope Nylander has a great year because then teams would take him in a trade and give you a. Good D man, if that need comes up, to me that’s the best option to stay balanced when you’re going to need to bring in some top 4 D next year on good contracts. Unless Barrie and muzzin and Cici and Dermott take a discount. Never know.

Lmao. You’re NEVER ever in my head. You’re a cry baby whiner always shadowing me. You make me laugh time in time out man.
I just admired my team is brutal and praised your team. YET you’ll still have hurt feelings over it somehow and deflect, cry and change the subject.


10.) 15 Sep 2019 05:23:45
Cap goes up but there are years like this one where it went up 1.5 mill or whatever and there was talk it might not go up at all. Expansion will help but we might not hit 100 mill cap until after the Marner deal is done, and other players cap hits will inflate as well.


11.) 15 Sep 2019 13:47:01
Lmao vbb


12.) 15 Sep 2019 14:36:33
I’d say a 10 year timeline at most for the cap to reach 100+ million.


13.) 15 Sep 2019 14:47:08
I think if I was a young player I would rather a 6 year deal at 10:8 then a 7 or 8 year deal at 11mil as it would give me a chance at a 2nd bigger deal quicker.


14.) 15 Sep 2019 16:03:13
So replying after you call me out for no reason is crying? Blow me!


15.) 17 Sep 2019 23:02:36
By no means is Marner a steal of a deal. Sebastien Aho makes 2.5 million less and he's debatable better then Marner when you consider he's a center and gets more goals on a worse team with lesser good teamates. Draisailt also makes 2 million money and is a big solid center that can potential get 40 goals. Marner is worth Aho money tops and got at least 2.5 million more then he should of gotten.


16.) 18 Sep 2019 14:38:47
Drai potentially get 40 goals. He’s a 50 goal scorer! That’s only happened I think 5 times since 2012 and Ovi was 4 of those 5 times. Just shows how crazy hard it is to score 50, and Drai has. Hopefully he keeps it up, but if he was an RFA now with that group he would get more than Marner without a doubt. The fact he’s making $8.5M 2.4M less than Marner. AND signed two years longer!


17.) 18 Sep 2019 22:43:36
How many of those 50 goals were McDavid going end to end and shooting the puck at Drais and the puck deflecting in off his body. I’d like to see that number probably at least 30.


 

 

12 Sep 2019 03:05:25
“Why are you letting this kid and his dad run the show here? Enough is enough. Take one of the deals, if not, go play somewhere else. Go be Mitch Marner in Carolina. Now you’re pissing everyone off and everyone hates your guts. And they should”.
-Jeff O’Neil, Toronto media.

Is this this harsh Toronto media Gardiner went to a smaller market teams agin and not MTL or Canadian.
Does Jeff ONeil have a valid point?

yupp

1.) 12 Sep 2019 08:39:30
Jeff o Neil is an idiot and always has been.


2.) 12 Sep 2019 10:46:23
ONeil is a walking pylon, even in commentary.
I do find the Marner camp stuff to be pretty damn annoying and I’m not even a leafs fan. It’s almost like they saw the Nylander method and thought “we can do that too! ” And, yup, they can. But does it help ANYONE, including them?! No! He’s been offered great money and has turned it down. Want the same but 3yrs? Front loaded or f**k off. It’s an obvious ploy wanting max money in the final year so he can ask for even more on the new contract.

Look, I get that it’s all a business and the agent is being paid to get his client the best money he can. That’s his job. But cmon. Sometimes agents are wrong. I feel like this is one of those cases. Offer Marner 11, 10, 9.5 on 3yr sliding scale with hefty bonuses and if he says no then trade him. He’s not worth all this BS.


3.) 12 Sep 2019 12:03:42
The problem I see with O’Neil’s post is the “go play somewhere else” part. I don’t think there are any teams lining up to pay Marner that kind of $ in addition to having to give up whatever in a trade for him.

Marner has not signed an offer sheet. So either there has not been any offer sheets at all, or there has but they have not been close enough to what he is seeking financially for him to sign them. That’s a pretty clear signal that no team is looking to pony up what you are demanding, and maybe it’s time to re-evaluate how in touch with reality your demands are. Because if you’re not making that kind of money in the NHL, you aren’t getting it in any other league either. So it would seem he has pretty much priced himself out of hockey at this point.

Agents are supposed to put the interests of their clients first, but there is more to that than just the contract. Your public perception impacts your marketability, and no doubt Marner’s is taking a hit right now because it’s pretty clear that his camp is being unreasonable.

I also don’t understand why Marner (and other RFA’s holding our or looking for short term deals) do not value the security and peace of mind you would get with a long term contract. Sure if you sign a 3 year deal you can reload again with the new CBA and make a few extra mill. You could also blow your knee out in those 3 years and never be the same player again and never get that big pay day at all. Somebody offers you $77 or $88 mln GUARANTEED but that’s not enough? I hope the owners push for non-guaranteed contracts at the next CBA like they have in the NFL. Would make things more interesting because right now half the talk on hockey boards is about $ and contract issues instead of the game itself. End rant.


4.) 12 Sep 2019 12:25:24
Why is Marner situation any different than Point? And you don’t see people saying this crap about Point. An RFA won’t accept a front loaded contract that ends in them still being an RFA, since whatever they make in that last year is what sets the qualifying offer next time they hit the RFA market. Leafs screwed themselves here I think, wouldn’t give him schedule B bonuses on his ELC and backed themselves into a corner with the Mathews deal assuming Marner would take a discount. Give him 3 year 11ish AAV but backloaded a bit and he probably takes it.


5.) 12 Sep 2019 16:05:53
This is the type of pressure the Toronto media and some fans are famous for and put their players through. O'Neil is one of many that will bully or shame Marner even after he signs a deal and has an off season.


6.) 12 Sep 2019 17:48:21
Well, Marner reportedly turned down an offer that would make him among the top 5 paid players in the league.

I'd say that opens the door for criticism if he has a down year.

You want to be paid among the best you better play among the best.


7.) 12 Sep 2019 21:28:35
I'm amazed that this biased shill for the Leafs is allowed to be on national sports programs where you would expect a commentator to be unbiased. He's a homer that should be on Leaf only shows.


8.) 13 Sep 2019 00:00:21
Jeff O’Neil is a crazy Leaf homer. And for him to say this is kinda surprising.


9.) 13 Sep 2019 03:12:50
That sounds a little over the top from O’Neil but these greedy kids need to tell their daddy’s and agents to take a step back.


10.) 13 Sep 2019 20:59:15
Marner will be paid 3-5 million more then he's worth. He's worth 9 million and will get 12-12.5 million.


 

 

 

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22 Sep 2019 20:54:02
All these Jets guys can do is cry that all these posts and offers are terrible but they can’t even say who they would want or expect back in a trade themselves.
I’m trying to give them a legit chance at it on the talk page here but they are too stunned it seems. We’ll see.

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22 Sep 2019 17:54:17
Lmao. It’s because he’s not a Jet Vertius. Just ANOTHER example of how much a huge homer he is. It’s absolutely hysterical. Super entertaining. If Liljegren was a Jet he would be a slam dunk top pairing D prospect, because he’s not, he’s a bust.

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22 Sep 2019 15:54:43
Hahahaha Dave. That HAS. TO. BE. WRONG. Nothing, absolutely nothing, is EVER leaked from Winnipeg.
Lmfao. I really really hope Liane is traded.

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22 Sep 2019 15:49:43
Ya I don’t see Liane a good fit in Detroit. I see him a good fit in Carolina first. Maybe Buffalo. Maybe Montreal but as soon as he takes a few games off and is terrible defensively he’d be ripped to shreds by fans and media.

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22 Sep 2019 15:47:35
Easy F no form Edm. Wow.

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