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17 Jan 2018 04:51:28
If I'm Garth Snow, does the emergence of Barzal change my way of thinking????
I have been obvious about my desire for the Habs to land Tavares.. ya it's still a crap shoot... however... if I am Snow.,, I build around Barzal.. I don't let Tavares get to July 1st, but trade him for top dollar.. yes !! I want my Habs to get him , however.,I have 2 trades.. who ya take.
FOR Tavares

2nd 18,× 2(both)
1st 2019

These deals are both on the contingent that he signs 8x11 at 88 once he is traded.


1.) 17 Jan 2018 06:08:49
I take Horvat, Joulevi, Van 2018 1st over
Galchenyuk, Lindgren, Juulsen, two 2018 2nds, 2019 1st.

2.) 17 Jan 2018 06:11:16
Horvat is the most proven of all this. I think Juolevi has more value than pretty well all the Montreal pieces. And that Van forst this year should be pretty good.

Make he Montreal 1st 2018 not 2019 and it changes it a bit. It still prefer Van package over Montreals.
Mainly becaUs Horvat is proven and the other two pieces are more potential than any of MTLs.

3.) 17 Jan 2018 07:29:26
Uhhhh no you definitely don’t build around barzal you keep Tavares who is a top 10 player in the world lol. I see your reasoning but no way, I really do think he will resign in New York and imo neither of these trades are enough to get him (im talking value wise not as he’s a UFA) .

4.) 17 Jan 2018 08:09:31
Good points both Edmonton Boyz.

McJesus. yes Tavares is top 10, however, resign him for 8 years, puts him at what? 35? Or Barzal, focus on him, Bellows. ext. In 8 years both are in middle of Prime. I get what your saying

Wouldn't surprise me however, at end if career. m Barzal, more points than John Tavares
I really like Tavares, however, I often wonder, is he a Superstar. or Really good player. there is a diffdefence.

5.) 17 Jan 2018 14:02:55
I think Mtl shouldn’t sign Tavares
We already have bad contracts

Not to mention that 80 million goalie.

6.) 17 Jan 2018 15:12:37
I would say having that 80 million dollar goalie is a good reason to get an 80 million dollar centreman to go with your 80million dollar defensman because they are so committed now, after those moves and trading sergachev, deciding to go another direction now will set any rebuild back many years before it even begins.

7.) 17 Jan 2018 16:19:33
Too much for a rental because Tavares would never re-sign in Van.

Montreal would be better off to just snag him at UFA time w/ o losing assets.

8.) 17 Jan 2018 17:54:40
I think one of the reasons Tavares might stay in NYI is the emergence of Barzel. Not saying it's the only reason, but it's one of many and it does help a little.

9.) 17 Jan 2018 18:20:36
Tavares is a superstar now, and you don’t trade those players. Barzal emerged as a very fun player to watch this year but tbh he had to play two extra years in junior! He wasn’t projected to be this good but unreal player for islanders now his skating is phenomenal but you still don’t trade Tavares. You keep him and you have him, Barzal, bellows, and all those other guys who will come up.

10.) 17 Jan 2018 22:49:03
I agree you try to keep Tavares if you can, and as much as he is saying the right things about wanting to stay, he isn’t holding any talks. As a management team you want to show patience with him and respect him by at the same time the deadline is coming and if he isn’t going to stay, you have to make a plan. You can’t have the best player your team has seen in decades walk for nothing.



30 Nov 2017 22:18:34
!Habs aquire Cracknell from NYR for Holland.

Huh?? Anyone else have any idea why this was made.. Bergevin must be bored?? Or is it jus so he can say he did something.?


1.) 01 Dec 2017 03:44:24
I don't like this. Holland is a pretty good depth forward. Cracknell is not.

2.) 01 Dec 2017 04:58:29
A little of both? Trying to make it look like he's trying.

3.) 01 Dec 2017 06:11:42
I’m surprised Holland wasn’t on the starting roster. I thought he was pretty good in Toronto.

4.) 01 Dec 2017 13:52:37
Holland was signed for 2 years next year being a one way contract. i guess they couldn't see a situation where he would be making the starting lineup this year or next year so they traded him for a guy who brings about the same value to laval and is a ufa at years end that they don't even have to try and find a place for next season. Not hard to figure out guys.

5.) 01 Dec 2017 14:10:45
Apparently holland ask for a trade when he saw Daniel carr + byron Froese being call to play for the big team and not him.



19 Jun 2017 20:01:17
send Tanev and Virtanen
send Kane and Beaulieu.


1.) 19 Jun 2017 21:38:06
I think buffalo passes on this one. If virtanen was more ready I think it could work.

2.) 21 Jun 2017 01:54:46
No way from Van. I wouldn't trade Tanev for Kane and Virtanen for Beaulieu.



17 Jun 2017 19:03:04
Beaulieu to Sabres for a 3rd... hmm not sure how I feel bout that..
Must be something else in the works


1.) 17 Jun 2017 19:06:30
Yeah he must have a trade for a dman coming back I'd assume.

2.) 17 Jun 2017 19:20:10
It's obviously the best deal the Habs could get for him.

3.) 17 Jun 2017 19:22:16
Great deal for the sabres.

4.) 17 Jun 2017 19:37:46
Definitely something in the works in order to help the loss in Defense.

As for this trade though, I see it as pretty reasonable. Beaulieu is good but often overrated in terms of value. So I think Montreal got the best they could for him because there are a lot of teams that have their own Beaulieu type that aren't worth what the Beaulieu asking price started as.

Either way, I hope Beaulieu turns it around for Buffalo and Montreal finds a way to make up for their loss in defensive depth.

5.) 17 Jun 2017 20:03:32

6.) 17 Jun 2017 21:44:47
Really think beaulieau will excel on the Sabres.



05 Jun 2017 17:39:56
I see a lot of deals in here that relate to Galchenyuk and Sergachev.. ect.. so i'm going to go off the board, probably piss off Yup and McJesus(sorry guys). Lol

Charlie Lindgren


Only way i'd ever wanna part with Sergachev is if a number one center is coming back..
Ok.. let me have it.. I know i'm going to get a beating on here for this. Haha


1.) 05 Jun 2017 19:28:29
Is that better long term for Montreal tho?

2.) 05 Jun 2017 19:41:21
Can't see Montreal giving up both Galchenyuk and Sergachev.

3.) 05 Jun 2017 20:39:50
I love drais and I'd make that trade as Montreal would EDM? Chuck is high risk high reward. IMO chuck peak is a Duchene type.

4.) 05 Jun 2017 21:45:11
McJesus. Its hard to say, but I value Draisaitl extremely high. other than McDavid and Mathews, I like him as the best young center in the game. I like him ahead of Eichel.

5.) 05 Jun 2017 22:30:48
Leon is not going anywhere, sorry. pretty much in the untouchable zone.
Webber or Price are the only 2 that might have a smidgeon of a hope for Montreal to get Leon in trade for.

If you want Pouliot ( Good French boy) for Sergachev that might be a realistic trade that Bergie and PC can explore?

6.) 05 Jun 2017 22:48:53
After the SJ series people were wondering if Drai would show up. After the amazing series versus Anaheim, people think he's all that. Wonder what his true value is?

7.) 05 Jun 2017 23:39:27
His true value is a number one center that will get 80+ points.

8.) 05 Jun 2017 23:41:19
Pouliot for Sergachev? And I thought my request was maybe a little out there. FT4A, your in a different world altogether.
And we've been there done that with Pouliot.

9.) 05 Jun 2017 23:59:32
No thanks. We are keeping McDavid/ Drai combo for ever. Haha.

10.) 06 Jun 2017 00:00:24
And their D is solid and will improve. Def wouldn't trade Drai for a prospect still. Would be a legit already established guy. And you know I like sergachev.

11.) 06 Jun 2017 00:47:50
Untouchable in Edmonton. They traded Gretzky! As the saying goes if Gretzky can be traded, anyone can be traded.

12.) 06 Jun 2017 01:14:52
Pouliot for Serg? Pouliot= a plane ticket to Tuscan.

13.) 06 Jun 2017 01:48:47
Pouliot doesn't get you a top D prospect. Some oilers fans are offering picks to take his contract and you want one of the best D prospects in the game right now? This was actually a good thread with oilers fans not being offended or attacking the guy and then comes ft4a lol leafs will give you nylander to take Ference contract for you too if you want.




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15 Jan 2018 01:49:04
This is sort of an add on to my HALL of FAME post from earlier
How bout.. who should be in that isn't...
Name one.. or more.. ya think maybe shouldn't be..
Make a top 5 or whatever off top of your head.
Kevin Lowe
Curtis Joseph
Alex Mogilny
Theo Fluery
Pat Verbeek
Mike Vernon

I have only one guy in the HHOF, I question, had a better career than the ones I mentioned above..( bring out Tankie(Colt)) and that is Bernie Federko..
Ya, he was a good player in the 80s, had a few 100 pt seasons.. Tim Kerr had a few high 50s in goal seasons.. not in Hall. I think even Brian Propp had a bigger impact.. but.. no a Hall of Famer

What you guys think.
Yup... if Federko is in.. should Doug Weight.. or say Ryan Smyth be in?? Maybe it's the Canadian in me.. but they both seemed like more impact players.


1.) 15 Jan 2018 02:04:28
What about Vincent Damphousse?

2.) 15 Jan 2018 04:29:52
As a Habs fan. would love to see him. Personnaly think If Federko is in. why not Damphousse. And then there is Pierre Turgeon.

3.) 15 Jan 2018 04:54:56
Don't really keep up on the hall of fame thing but did steve larmer or keith tkchuck ever get in. How about roenick?

4.) 15 Jan 2018 16:08:00
Doesn't look any of the 3 mentioned by you are Habby. case could be made for all 3.

5.) 16 Jan 2018 00:24:59
Did bobby smith get in?

6.) 16 Jan 2018 02:27:50
No For Bobby Smith.

7.) 16 Jan 2018 02:33:47
Screw Kevin Lowe! Lol 😂😂.
And MacT.

8.) 16 Jan 2018 05:34:41
Lol. Yup. as players. not Fro t office stuff. Lowe was a really solid defensive D.

9.) 16 Jan 2018 16:36:47
Ok. Sure.
Screw them in the front office!
That sounds bad 🙈🙈.



14 Jan 2018 22:37:01
Being a kid in 80s I was lucky enough to witness the offense of that era and look at scoring lists when at least 10 to 15 guys had a 100 points , and 50 goals.. it's obvious a different era.. so when I think of the new Generation Hall of Famers, I get stumped.. I'm kind of from the thinking, 500 goals.. 1000 points ect.. so.. and , that's not happen for many players .. so maybe you can guys can help me with this. Obvious we know, Karlson, Crosby, Ovechkin are Hall of Famers.. and Keith ect.. so I'll ask bout some of the guys that I WONDER

Are they Hall of Famers
Anze Kopitar
Patrick Marleau
Roberto Luongo
Nicolas Backston
Shea Weber
Corey Perry
Ryan Getzlaf
Jonathan Quick
Tuuka Rask
Henrik Zetterberg

This one may be controversial, as he's only 26 I think, but is John Tavares on his way to a Hall of Fame career.. or a just a very good career.. same could be said for Victor Hedman I suppose.


1.) 15 Jan 2018 00:04:40
Kopitar - two cups, so prob.
Marleau - for sure.
Luongo - for sure.
Backstrom - probably the most underrated centre in the league, he's an absolute beast. So yeah from me.
Weber - probably.
Perry - idk tbh. I think he gets in, but when compared to the others on the list, he isn't on par with them imo.
Getz - yeah.
Quick - don't think so.
Rask - no.
Zetterburg - forsure.

2.) 15 Jan 2018 00:21:43
I think winning a cup or not will have a huge affect on the players you listed. the ones that have will probably get in the ones who haven't as of now will probably not.

3.) 15 Jan 2018 00:29:21
Intersting list. Could argue all of them I think.
Look at Stanley Cups as a big boost. Like Kopitarbit then a guy like Patty Meho doesn't have a cup but has great numbers.
Interesting list tho for sure.

4.) 15 Jan 2018 12:43:02
Anze Kopitar - yes
Patrick Marleau - yes
Roberto Luongo - yes
Nicolas Backston - I'd say yes, but I guess no
Shea Weber - no
Corey Perry - no
Ryan Getzlaf - yes
Jonathan Quick - 50:50, he has two Cups
Tuuka Rask - no
Henrik Zetterberg -yes.



14 Jan 2018 17:32:54
Hey Yup..
Did ya make it the Vegas game?? If so.. what was it like ..


1.) 14 Jan 2018 18:58:21
Nooooo I am so mad I didn't make it work out. A friend of mine went, said it was so fun. Like 5000 Oilers fans there. So many got together and filled a bar before the game, chanting and everything. Said it was just so much fun. Vegas puts on a good show. I've watched a bunch of their games in tv and their atmosphere in the arena looks so awesome no matter who's playing. I am going to Vegas in Feb tho for some big poker tourneys, that's why I didn't go now. Looked like a fun game tho
I wonder who went out partying. McDavid turned 21 yesterday and they have their 5 days off now. Ha.

2.) 14 Jan 2018 22:23:31
So I can some idea. Habby., Yup. what would you guys give for him?
As a Habs fan, I don't know If wanna send my 18 1st round pick.
I find Dman, really hard to value.
He may Very well be worth a ton.

For comparison. I really like Ekholm outta Nashville. who ya take? And is it close. Cause over the years on here, the way OEL is talked about. he's on par with Lidstrom ect.

3.) 15 Jan 2018 00:24:57
Wrong place again Sosa lol but I'd take OEL over ek holm any day of the week and twice on Sunday. its not even close IMO. I'm not sure if there is a deal to be had from montreal I don't think they would want to give up the asking price with the way the season is going.

4.) 15 Jan 2018 00:25:37
He will get a nice package from wherever he goes.

5.) 15 Jan 2018 00:33:43
Man you posted a comment to a wrong thread, again. Get yourself together man

I actually like OEL more than Ekholm. Easily
If you were to ask about Josi or OEL, that's a lot closer to me and might be a tie.

I would give Klefbom, 1st and something else. It even sure what tho. It would probably have to be a Moto or Nuge. Still probably would I think. Not even sure they would take that or get better offers from someone else. For OEL.

6.) 15 Jan 2018 01:13:33
Once again. I posted on wrong post. Geeze, I'm getting old an senile.



14 Jan 2018 00:16:20
This isn't about players or teams, but commentators. So I'll probably get roasted. Anyway, I'm not a huge fan of Jim Hughson, I was brought up watching hockey listening to a True legend, my all time fav Bob Cole. and absolutely loved him and Harry Neale as a team.

There is IMO a guy who could be the next great Canadian NHL game caller, Gord Miller. Maybe it would take away from World Jrs. and I know he does NBC, but If I were Rogers I'd be trying to get him as my top guy.

Him and Ray Ferarro IMO are the new Cole/Neale, well of this generation.
Hughson/Simpson can call the West coast games, or, better yet, get Cuthbert. Anyway, I'm sure some of you will roast me, or just not care, lol.


1.) 14 Jan 2018 00:22:29
Agree with everything except the ray Ferraro part. I would sooner have pierre McGuire doing commentary then him and that's saying something.

2.) 14 Jan 2018 02:10:57
Oh I agree Habby. I like Pierre. But I also like Ferarro. Lol.

3.) 14 Jan 2018 02:36:27
I agree. I love Bob Cole. He is amazing. You don't even have to watch the game just listen to him and you know how the game is going.

4.) 14 Jan 2018 03:01:18
That is saying something habby. I can’t stand listening to McGuire speak. I may be bias here but Joe Bowen is amazing. It sounds like you’re watching the game when listening to a game on the radio. I don’t know their names but the Ducks or Sharks announcers are the worst. They are the most bias announcers other than maybe Micky Redmond.

5.) 14 Jan 2018 04:02:41
God, McGuire is annoying as ****. Same w. Romanuk, lol.

Agree with Leafs though, Bowen is a leaf legend and is one of the best in the business.

I also hate Jack Edwards, but who doesn't?
And the Panthers announcers are so dull. When the other team scores, its like 'eh'. They're the worst imo, but not the most biased. That goes to Romanuk or Edwards.

I agree with Cole tho. he's good. And I like Gord Miller. Idk why people don't like him.

6.) 14 Jan 2018 04:11:06
There are really not that many good ones and yes McGuire sucks too I'd just slightly rather him the Ferraro lol. even old dick Irvin was better then most commentators now.

7.) 14 Jan 2018 04:25:45
Pierre McGuire is the absolute worst. Lol
I hate Drew Remenda one of the Oilers commentators, and lots of the fan base can't stand him either.

Ron McLean is the best. But not really a commentator. Bob Cole is a legend of course. Eddie Olcyk is terrible.

8.) 14 Jan 2018 19:21:41
Holy mackinaw yup, we agreed on something. Maybe we can be friends after all. If I ever come across a crap load of money I’m going to buy a bunch of tickets to a leaf game and fly some of you in for it. It would be nice to put a face to the name since it’s been at least 5 years for me on this site.

9.) 14 Jan 2018 22:25:33
Pick me! Pick me! Lol.

10.) 14 Jan 2018 22:42:04
Lol. I've always found this site funny for how totally annonymous it is. Imagine if it was Facebook with your profile attached, Instant posts, How different some of these convos would be. Ha.



13 Jan 2018 01:11:57
Being a BC , I end up with a lot of Canucks games.., as A Habs fan, Thomas Vanek was a bit of a sore spot. I keep thinking if Bergevin woulda brought him back this year,, think the offense woulda been a little different.. He's playing really good for the Canucks...
However,, I think Benning , who I once thought was horrible(not anymore), basically bought himself some good future assets for a million
If I'm a true contender,, why not get him as a rental.. it seems like his fall from grace has humbled him some, and he plays with more effort..
I think Pens... he's a player who is smart enough to play with Crosby.


1.) 13 Jan 2018 05:36:21
Ya I thought Benning brought some guys in as I like to call "asset managment pieces". Sign him for cheap, hope to dump him for anything you can get. Harsh terminology, but someone's that's how you have to think as a GM.
Basically buying an extra draft pick for $1M or less.
Sometimes it works out pretty damn good in the long run.
Because I thought wtf are the crap rebuilding Canuks doing signing all these free agents for? Vanek. Gagner. Del zortto (? ) some others. Are they trying to contend? They are sending a confusing signal to their fans. If they were rebuilding, just give ice time to youngers.

2.) 13 Jan 2018 05:37:34
I'm drunk. Did that last post end without conclusion?

Did I miss Anything or does it make sense? Lol

Leafs17, What did I miss bro? Come
Out of the woodworks to bash me.
Or how did I hurt your feelings? I'm sorry.

3.) 13 Jan 2018 17:33:43
I’m pretty sure there was a conclusion. You should drink more often, you weren’t a d bag in the first post. Must be because it was Sosa.




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17 Jan 2018 08:09:31
Good points both Edmonton Boyz.

McJesus. yes Tavares is top 10, however, resign him for 8 years, puts him at what? 35? Or Barzal, focus on him, Bellows. ext. In 8 years both are in middle of Prime. I get what your saying

Wouldn't surprise me however, at end if career. m Barzal, more points than John Tavares
I really like Tavares, however, I often wonder, is he a Superstar. or Really good player. there is a diffdefence.




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17 Jan 2018 04:39:56
Don't apologize Buck. that's what they say. 2 year window. so. with this whole salary cap world. ya never know. A GM may read into it. realize, I could win a cup, but at a Huge sacrifice. jus like our Habs, couple years ago. they were pretty damn good. Price at 6.5., Patches 4.5. Subban at whatever. shoulda added to those guys. we were close. but. well ya know.
This isn't the days when you thought Dynasty! . so . if a team had to give a top young prospect. for a star. ya do it.




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17 Jan 2018 04:32:44
Oh Hells ya to this.




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17 Jan 2018 04:32:18
Not nearly as bad as your one up above.




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17 Jan 2018 04:31:31
Other than Jags the Senior citizen. who the Mofo are dem guyz?





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