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13 Jul 2018 13:01:33
Confirmed trade:

Ott:Smith

Edm:3 rd 2019

I was very surprise when I saw the trade. Why give a third for an overpaid 3/4 liner? Maybe Edm wants to protect Mcdavid even more? Can Oilers fan explain?

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13 Jul 2018 14:46:29
I haven't seen anything about this trade. Although I do really like Z. Smith and always have. I think he is at least $1M overpaid. I would love him in the bottom six tho. Another leftie tho, Edm needs a rightie winger.
Plus I think Edm only has about $4.9 in cap space and need to sign Nurse to a bridge deal. And maybe one more cheap forward contract.
Also, I would give a 3rd for Smith and hope they retain $1M or so. I've always been a fan of him.

13 Jul 2018 17:26:45
Can you explain this non confirmed trade?

14 Jul 2018 19:56:40
Still waiting for the confirmation here.

15 Jul 2018 03:13:58
I’m still waiting too and I don’t even care. I’m a fan of Smith too.

12 Jul 2018 14:14:58
Here is my way to early 2018-2019 NHL projected standing.

Met
1.Washington
2. Pittsburgh
3.Columbus

Atl
1.Tampa
2.Toronto
3.Boston

Wild card
1. Florida
2. Philadelphia

West

Cen

1.Winnepeg
2.Nashville
3.Saint Louis

Pac
1. San Jose
2. LA
3. Anaheim

Wild card
1. Dallas
2. Minnesota

Lottery
15. Las Vegas
14. Edmonton
13. Calargry
12. Colorado
11. Montreal
10. New York Islanders
9. New Jersey
8. New York Rangers
7. Carolina
6. Chicago
5. Buffalo
4. Arizona
3. Detroit
2. Vancouver
1. Ottawa

What do you guys think?

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12 Jul 2018 15:33:53
Minnesota doesn’t make playoffs imo.

Zona, CGY and Vegas should be better imo. Zonas a dark horse for playoff this year.

12 Jul 2018 15:34:21
And CGY>>LA imo.

12 Jul 2018 15:53:21
It's possible I think calgary will be better though.

12 Jul 2018 22:18:23
I doubt Vegas makes the playoffs and Minnesota still has suter, a top goalie and depth at every position. IMO suter is still a top 5 dman. Maybe Calargry makes the playoffs. And I don’t see how Arizona steps up they need another Elite presance to do anything.

13 Jul 2018 04:28:18
I think Oilers get in, and my Habs are closer to a shot at Number 1 draft pick.

12 Jul 2018 00:50:37
Max Pacioretty (LW - 4.5 Million x 1 Year) + Paul Byron (RW - 1.75 Million x 1 Year) + Jordie Benn (D - 1.1 Million x 1 Year) + 2019 4th Round Draft Selection to the New Jersey Devils in exchange for Joey Anderson (RW - ELC) + John Quenneville (C - 800K x 1 Year) + 2019 1st Round Draft Selection.

- New Jersey makes this move to remain competitive in a heavy Metro division, especially after standing pat on the free agent front. Taylor Hall can’t carry this team again, and adding support players like Patches and Byron may help.
- Montreal trades away roster bodies in an attempt to tank. Anderson is a solid prospect who projected to make NJ out of camp and could do so in MTL. Quenneville has not shown much but is a centre prospect with success in the AHL, and could be of use. The 1st is the kicker though, its unprotected, and if NJ slides out in a heavy Metro division, the pick is lottery. As well, Patches right now probably doesn’t have as much value as he should (The announcement yesterday, that Bergervin won't offer him a contract), so adding more pieces makes the package enticing.

New Jersey lineup:
Taylor Hall - Nico Hischier - Jesper Bratt
Max Pacioretty - Travis Zajac - Kyle Palmieri
Marcus Johansson - Pavel Zacha - Paul Byron
Miles Wood - Brian Boyle - Blake Coleman

Will Butcher - Damon Seveson
Jordie Benn - Sami Vatanen
Andy Greene - Ben Lovejoy

Cory Schneider
Keith Kinkaid.

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12 Jul 2018 13:54:19
I wouldn’t trade a 1st round pick if I were NJ I’m really not a believer in their roster at all I think they take a step back but that’s my opinion. Value wise it may not be to bad tho.

I think that pick will be 8-9 ovr.

11 Jul 2018 13:47:30
St. Louis Blues:

•) 2nd Round Pick 2019
•) 6th Round Pick 2019
•) Robert Bortuzzo
•) Rights for Daniel Noel


Edmonton Oilers:

•) Adam Larsson
•) 7th Round Pick 2019.

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11 Jul 2018 15:51:16
That's a trade only Chiarelli would do. lol.

11 Jul 2018 16:45:10
Lol I’m surprised chiareli hasn’t made his annual franchise ruining trade yet this year.

11 Jul 2018 17:08:42
chirellis a knob.

11 Jul 2018 17:09:02
Lol yeah, he is due to do that. Maybe something around draisatl for Ceci?!

11 Jul 2018 17:49:25
this trade makes no sense. Noel is a? borts is a 3rd line tough guy dman, the picks do nothing. EDM says no thanks.

12 Jul 2018 00:54:16
If Chia made this trade I don't think anyone on this site woukd be surprised lol.

12 Jul 2018 22:19:44
Yupp and McJesus would have a hernia.

11 Jul 2018 13:46:37
What do u guys think of the news of the so call threateing emails that came from Hoffmans fiance turned out to be this girl Melinda Karlson grew up in Ottawa with. Did the Karlsons acused them(Hoffman's) too soon beforr actualy tracing down to the real sender? Because after all it did ruin Mike's career in Ottawa and broke the friendship he had within the organazation and the fans. What do u guys think of the situation?

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11 Jul 2018 16:41:55
We'll if this is true then obviously they accused them to soon. But if they hadn't put the wheels in motion they may have never found out who was doing it.

11 Jul 2018 17:16:31
What are you talking about?! I think you read the headlines wrong. The girl, Melinda, who grew up in Ottawa is Melinda Currey. She married Erik Karlsson and is now Melinda Karlsson lol Unless something new has come out in the last few minutes, Hoffman’s fiancé, Monika Caryk, is still the one they’re investigating.

11 Jul 2018 18:19:46
Jim I think you read that wrong. "This girl" meaning some random girl, not someone also named Melinda.

Either way, If it's not Hoffmans finance, The biggest question mark I've had this whole time is of its not Hoffmans girl, Why can't Hoffman and Karlsson just talk theme selves in person and be like hey man this isn't us, we are so sorry this is happening to you but we are being targeted and we should go to the police on the down low and figure this out between just us.

This is such a strange story all around that it's come out this much. I don't know what to think.

11 Jul 2018 18:45:40
Oh okay. I can’t find anywhere, where an update saying it’s not still Hoffman’s girl they’re looking at. I’d be interested to read it though, where is it colt?!

11 Jul 2018 19:37:59
Wasn't it more than just social media posts but some things actually said face to face as well?

11 Jul 2018 23:59:16
@thunder, yeah apparently there was a lot of face to face arguments and it was known by all the other wives and gf’s that they hated each other. But The messages that pushed it over the edge (taunting Melinda about the death of her baby and calling her a drug addict) used exact wording that other people had heard Hoffman’s gf use in person about Melinda and that’s what allowed them to make the connection (so I read in some of the stories anyway, nothing confirmed obviously)

12 Jul 2018 11:50:05
Its in the ottawa citizens where it says that a girl that Melinda Karlson grew up with could be the one who sent that but nothing confirm.

11 Jul 2018 00:20:09
Mtl: Pacioretty, 4th round pick,
Blues: Robert Thomas, 3rd round pick

Or

Mtl: Pacioretty
SJ: Josh Norris, jeremy Roy, 2nd round pick

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11 Jul 2018 04:21:39
Yeah your not getting Robert thomas. Nothing NFL has will pry Robert thomas from the blues. also blues only have 3.3 million of cap. That goes to Edmondson and schmaltz. Next year jaybo, and gunner are gone freeing up 8.3 million. Patches just doesn't fit the mold.

11 Jul 2018 18:50:15
Nothing the NFL has? Not even Tom Brady and Bill Belichick?! Could win St Louis a SuperBowl instead of a cup. Lol

But seriously, Redwing, you have to be old colt. You just have to be!

11 Jul 2018 19:35:19
JJ Watt could bring a nice physical presence could be worth trading Robert Thomas.

12 Jul 2018 11:48:00
Imagine if watt could play NHL hockey. He loves hockey and can skate. But imagine e NHL level skill. Or Lebron James. Massive freak athlete. Imagine him as a power forward. Next Eric Lindros. Lol.

12 Jul 2018 22:59:27
Freaking autocorrect.

10 Jul 2018 22:56:03
Vancouver Trades:
RD Chris Tanev $4.45
LW Tyler Motte $925,000

Toronto Trades:
2019 1st Round Pick
RW Kasperi Kapanen $863,333
RW Nathan Horton IR $5.3

Toronto gets a much needed right handed shut down defenceman to play along side puck movers Rielly or Gardiner and would fit in great with a babcock system who are in win now mode with the Tavares signing.

They also shed Horton's $5.3M cap hit in the deal which will give them more options down the line. Their 1st rounder will most likely be a late pick so not the end of the world there

Vancouver gets another 1st round pick and gets a quality prospect in Kapanen to add to the cupboard. They take on Horton's deal for the next 2 years which they can easily afford. It also opens up a spot on D for Quinn Hughes

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11 Jul 2018 02:46:33
I don’t see Canucks ownership ltaking on Hortons contract. It’s uninsured, so most players on LTIR, an insurance company pays 80% of it instead of owners. Owners on the hook for all of Hortons. Not many can/ will do that.

11 Jul 2018 02:56:33
Take out he Horton contract because he’s never going to play again so that cap gets erased onto LTIR but he’s still going to get paid and out of any team in the league willing to pay that it’s toronot so I don’t think it’ll ever get moved or anything else. Apart from that trade seems pretty fair tbh. Canucks get a pick most likely 25-31, and receive a top 6 potential forward and Toronto gets what they want which is a good rhd while losing a roster player but they gain a winger back that could play 3rd mostly 4th like which is where Kapanen would have played this year anyways.

10 Jul 2018 15:21:51
Kucherov signs 8 year extension

8x $9.5 mill.

Kinda complicated the Karlsson situation?!

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10 Jul 2018 17:39:21
Nah. Now Tampa knows exactly what they have to work with. I don't think Kuch was ever going to be the casualty of a Karlsson addition.

10 Jul 2018 17:58:50
That’s possible. Other thing I was thinking is that he probably got a NTC in it, like all stars do these days signing long term. But that wouldn’t kick in until next July 1st. Maybe yzerman trades him with a fresh 8 year deal before that to maximize his value. I did hear they had discussed moving him (but maybe that’s if they couldn’t get this deal done)

10 Jul 2018 22:48:44
complicates ek, but he goes to the west now.

but kuch signing helps the leafs HUGE. 9.5 for a hundred point guy? how can matthews ask for 10 when he hasn't sniffed 100 points yet? how can marner or nylander ask for 8 plus if they are 60 point players?

matthews 8 x 9m, nylander 3 x 5m, marner 8 x 6.5m.

yes i turned it into a leaf post, don't you hate that? hahah.

11 Jul 2018 02:12:28
9.5 in tampa is about the same as 11.5 in toronto ovie.

11 Jul 2018 02:53:13
Matthews can and will still ask for 10+ because mcdavid is 12.5 and Eichel is 10 and he should slot in between them (and draisatl at 8.5 too) He’s a big franchise centreman, kucherov is a skilled winger. It definitely helps leafs with the marner and Nylander ones tho who are both skilled wingers who can’t carry Kucherovs bag to the rink yet.

11 Jul 2018 10:44:28
Has nothing to do with EK, Kuch was going to be re-signed regardless. And unless its a bridge deal, which I highly doubt, AM will ask and get 10M+. It's the Leafs lol.

11 Jul 2018 12:19:47
Not sure what your “it’s the leafs” implies. If Matthews puts up similar #’s, does he not deserve 10+? Are you referring to Tavares’? Other teams offered more. Toronto does have a salary cap just like every other team, we just don’t get players at a discount rate like Tampa. Is someone upset their team lost out on Tavares and maybe Karlsson? Kucherov is making 10+ in the real world other nhl teams live in, lol.

11 Jul 2018 14:50:29
Leafs17 you do get players at a discount rate. You just said you got Tavares at a discount haha. The tax advantage is so overstated and wasnt an issue until a team in a no tax state started winning. O6 teams have been using their prestige of winning cups before expansion and northern teams the advantage of being close to players families as advantages to sign players forever its not suddenly some teams have advantages now because of tax.

11 Jul 2018 15:12:26
How did eichel get $10M then Ovie? Mathews isn't worth as much as eichel then?

11 Jul 2018 17:14:58
matthews is worth as much as eichel, i'm saying eichel is over paid. imo you shouldn't make 10 million if you're not a 90+ point player or 50-60 point potential dman who can defend.

11 Jul 2018 19:02:36
@jbs, you’re right that other teams have advantages like location and history, however those are advantages that their ownership (past and present) have created for themselves over the years by winning or maintaining a fan base.

It’s not an advantage that’s government controlled like taxes. I have no problem with Tampa doing what they’re doing, they’re staying within the rules and building a great team. But saying state tax rates is the same as allure of a former Stanley cup champion or an old team is not the same thing lol in a salary cap league when there can be a $2-3 million dollar swing per year on a players take home pay, it’s a little more of an advantage than history and saying “look at our jersey, Bobby Hull wore it too”. Come on lol.

11 Jul 2018 21:07:05
Is it though Jim? because it sounds like that's exactly what happened with Tavares. Decided to give up 2-3 mill take home to go to Toronto because he grew up there. The tax issue wasnt an issue and didn't draw players when Tampa was bad that's why i think its getting overstated. I think Tampas ability to sign there guys has more to do with current culture than strictly tax break. Every market has their draws and to complain about one teams advantages while ignoring your own is what bothers me, since such a big deal is being made about taxes post Kucherov extension.

11 Jul 2018 21:40:44
Thanks Jim. I really didn’t think I’d have to defend my comment. I like Tampa and Yzerman is great, I was just curious about the triplets subtle jab at the leafs.

11 Jul 2018 21:43:14
I’ll just say this even if the Ligntning Trade Callahan and Johnson while letting Stralman ( will probably demand 5.5 mil ) Couburn and Giradi walk that’ll leave about 26 million to resign Point, Vaisalisky and Karlsson. + Sergachev of not traded.

Vais will probably look at Prices contract and compare stats ( his are better ) I’d say definitely no less then 7.5 and my guess is 8.5

Assuming Point produces as much as he did last season he’ll get around 6-7 million

Karlsson would probably sign for 9.5 like Kuch.

That leaves the Bolts with 2 million in cap to fill in the 2nd line RW and 5th And 6th dman. Not to mention their current prospect cupboards will be bare from the Karlsson Trade.

The smartest thing to do would be to resign all of their players and stay away from Karlsson.

12 Jul 2018 08:16:26
No way Vasy gets Price money or even 8.5, I'd say 7 is the absolute max. Point will most likely get a bridge contract as Kuch did, sth like 3x5m. Stralman would not demand 5.5, imo. I guess TB tries to re-sign him to a Coburn-like contract. Don't worry, Yzerman got this.

14 Jul 2018 01:15:41
Anything is possible. I hope you’re wrong tho lol Tampa is the leafs biggest barrier from winning a cup. Also Hellybuk ( I butchered this guy’s name bad I know ) signed a a lot cheaper then I thought maybe he signs for something similar?

10 Jul 2018 15:09:31
Kuch signed 8/9.5M extension, what does this do about Karlsson?

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11 Jul 2018 10:44:35
nothing.

09 Jul 2018 05:40:07
Detroit has a great draft in my opinion but they really missed in their 3rd round in Seth Barton. The guy does not stand a chance of making it to the NHL

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09 Jul 2018 14:15:03
I don’t know why I bother asking, besides curiousity and boredom, but how do you know that an 18 year old kid that professionals ranked as between 60-100th best hockey player in the world his age has a 0% chance of playing in the NHL?

10 Jul 2018 03:53:58
Watched him play all year. Average BCHL Defensman. Played against him my whole life. Nothing special. Not 3rd round pick worthy.

10 Jul 2018 11:49:58
He probably stole your gf because he was better then u and now you're jealous and seeking revenge. Lol.

10 Jul 2018 12:52:44
Ahahahaha colt😂.

10 Jul 2018 16:44:23
Sounds like a jealousy thing. If you played against him, you can have your opinion, but I wouldn't trust your assessment over all the people that work for the scouting services, and all the NHL scouts, Ken Holland and the people he employs lol I played against a few guys growing up that made the NHL. And a cpl of them I remember back when we were 14-15 and they were definitely not way better than everyone else, some of them weren’t even the best on the team every year, but obviously scouts saw something in them they didn’t see in others and they were right. Obviously there’s busts, but these guys know what they’re doing a lot more than us.

11 Jul 2018 21:33:43
I like the guy and all but you watch the other guys in the BCHL who were drafted and you can tell that they are good. Watching guys like Tychonik, Weatherby, Demin and so on. Watching Barton, he doesn’t stand out at all. Just an average BCHL d man who had a good first 10 games.

 


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