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16 Jan 2018 02:52:05
Chi: Hartman, Seabrook, 1rd pick 2018


Obviously th pick is added to dump Seabrooks contract.Chi does that plus they get a very good solid RHD that has a deal that's almost up I believe. Not 100 percent sure tho. Chi gets a replacement for him while adding a very good forward prospect and another first rounder.Does it work for both teams?

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16 Jan 2018 12:40:57
I meant Colorado in the last part lol.

16 Jan 2018 02:46:53
B. Point + S. Koekkoek for J. Faulk + V. Rask

Canes get a #1 center for now and the future. Tampa Bay gets a top pairing d man to play with Hedman and they already have great center depth. Other peices can be added from with side but this is a base

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16 Jan 2018 04:16:58
Not sure Tampa is looking to trade Point. His production for cheap and controllability is too valuable for them. Maybe theyd move Johnson in a deal like this but he obviously doesn't have the same value. Could see Koekkoek Johnson Stephens and a pick or something dunno if Carolina would take that though.

16 Jan 2018 05:30:57
Not sure why Bolts would even consider this. Point is a really good player, young. and cheap.

16 Jan 2018 14:19:34
Point is cheap for now but looking a year ahead they have to sign him and Sergachev each of which (it they continue their current growth) are easily worth 6+ mil. No way they can afford this. Anyways they already have a great center core but when looking at their defense it isnโ€™t fantastic, they could definately use another puck moving d man and Faulk is right handed, something they lack. Also Faulk is signed for under 5 mil.

16 Jan 2018 16:30:58
Point is after next season. Sergachev the year after that. Doubt either gets 6+ in rfa honestly. Kuch Johnson Hedman Palat etc. All didn't in their second contract. Callahan is off books by the time Sergachev needs a contract. Girardi Coburn Stralman in time for Point. Tampa is in a much better cap spot than people are giving them credit for especially if the cap goes up. If they trade a center itll probably be the guy Point replaces (Johnson) not Point himself. Johnson struggled at center this year as well their center depth exists but they don't have a bunch of sure fire top 6 guys.

16 Jan 2018 17:58:08
jbs you're really good at this, I agree with everything you said. Also, there's Killorn who'd def go before Point does.

16 Jan 2018 23:02:49
Jbs, I agree with you but if Sergacheb continues to dominate he will be asking for 7+ million even as a rfa. he's just that good.

17 Jan 2018 00:28:29
No he wonโ€™t look at his TOI + his useage in his own end is limited.

17 Jan 2018 00:59:56
3 points in his las 12 games on a team as easy to get points on as tampa isn't really dominating.

17 Jan 2018 02:40:38
Sergachev has been great but he's got a lot of learning to do still especially in D end. People said Kuch was going to get 7+ on his last deal and he got 4.5. If he gets 7 something might have to be done but i still think that's Johnson/ Killorn before Point. If cap increases like Bettman says i still think itll be ok.

17 Jan 2018 02:50:31
Gabby ypur just mad that we traded him for Drouin lol.

16 Jan 2018 02:09:06
Win:Morrisey,1 rd 2018

Mtl:Patches,3 rd pick 2018

I don't really know exactly how much Morrisey is worth but, Mcjesus mention a first and young player.One of are biggest needs beside center LHD.Is this clost? Does Winnipeg need/want Patches? And is this price reasonable if so

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16 Jan 2018 05:33:12
I don't think they want or need Patche in Winnipeg. they may have the best set of wingers in the league. with Wheeler ( when Shieffle is healthy) Laine and Ehlers leading the way.

16 Jan 2018 17:08:15
Wpg isn't going to trade arguably there best dman of late for patches let alone add a first. Morriseys looking like a stud.

17 Jan 2018 02:49:13
Well thanks TBA. Like I mention I don't know about his value. I just remeber the day he was drafted how they said he would become a very good solid pick moving D. Sounds like a defensemen I'd like to add to my team lol.

16 Jan 2018 02:05:45
Dallas: Gurianov

NYI:Ho sang

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15 Jan 2018 01:49:04
This is sort of an add on to my HALL of FAME post from earlier
How bout.. who should be in that isn't...
Name one.. or more.. ya think maybe shouldn't be..
Make a top 5 or whatever off top of your head.
Kevin Lowe
Curtis Joseph
Alex Mogilny
Theo Fluery
Pat Verbeek
Mike Vernon

I have only one guy in the HHOF, I question, had a better career than the ones I mentioned above..( bring out Tankie(Colt)) and that is Bernie Federko..
Ya, he was a good player in the 80s, had a few 100 pt seasons.. Tim Kerr had a few high 50s in goal seasons.. not in Hall. I think even Brian Propp had a bigger impact.. but.. no a Hall of Famer

What you guys think.
Yup... if Federko is in.. should Doug Weight.. or say Ryan Smyth be in?? Maybe it's the Canadian in me.. but they both seemed like more impact players.

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15 Jan 2018 02:04:28
What about Vincent Damphousse?

15 Jan 2018 04:29:52
As a Habs fan. would love to see him. Personnaly think If Federko is in. why not Damphousse. And then there is Pierre Turgeon.

15 Jan 2018 04:54:56
Don't really keep up on the hall of fame thing but did steve larmer or keith tkchuck ever get in. How about roenick?

15 Jan 2018 16:08:00
Doesn't look any of the 3 mentioned by you are Habby. case could be made for all 3.

16 Jan 2018 00:24:59
Did bobby smith get in?

16 Jan 2018 02:27:50
No For Bobby Smith.

16 Jan 2018 02:33:47
Screw Kevin Lowe! Lol ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚.
And MacT.

16 Jan 2018 05:34:41
Lol. Yup. as players. not Fro t office stuff. Lowe was a really solid defensive D.

16 Jan 2018 16:36:47
Ok. Sure.
Screw them in the front office!
That sounds bad ๐Ÿ™ˆ๐Ÿ™ˆ.

15 Jan 2018 00:52:16
Ott: Hoffman, Ceci
LA: Gaborik, Clague, Iafallo, 2nd (1st if LA makes it to West Conf. Final).

LA Rosa Gaborik contract, gets Hoffman who could play with Carter when he returns. Ottawa gets rid of the bad contract they will give Ceci before they have a chance to offer it, get a great prospect and someone who may chip in more in bottom 6. And maybe Gaborik has a little gas left in tank.

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16 Jan 2018 02:39:36
Hey Greg I'm going to go on a limb and say that you're a LA fans right?

14 Jan 2018 22:37:01
Being a kid in 80s I was lucky enough to witness the offense of that era and look at scoring lists when at least 10 to 15 guys had a 100 points , and 50 goals.. it's obvious a different era.. so when I think of the new Generation Hall of Famers, I get stumped.. I'm kind of from the thinking, 500 goals.. 1000 points ect.. so.. and , that's not happen for many players .. so maybe you can guys can help me with this. Obvious we know, Karlson, Crosby, Ovechkin are Hall of Famers.. and Keith ect.. so I'll ask bout some of the guys that I WONDER

Are they Hall of Famers
Anze Kopitar
Patrick Marleau
Roberto Luongo
Nicolas Backston
Shea Weber
Corey Perry
Ryan Getzlaf
Jonathan Quick
Tuuka Rask
Henrik Zetterberg

This one may be controversial, as he's only 26 I think, but is John Tavares on his way to a Hall of Fame career.. or a just a very good career.. same could be said for Victor Hedman I suppose.

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15 Jan 2018 00:04:40
Kopitar - two cups, so prob.
Marleau - for sure.
Luongo - for sure.
Backstrom - probably the most underrated centre in the league, he's an absolute beast. So yeah from me.
Weber - probably.
Perry - idk tbh. I think he gets in, but when compared to the others on the list, he isn't on par with them imo.
Getz - yeah.
Quick - don't think so.
Rask - no.
Zetterburg - forsure.

15 Jan 2018 00:21:43
I think winning a cup or not will have a huge affect on the players you listed. the ones that have will probably get in the ones who haven't as of now will probably not.

15 Jan 2018 00:29:21
Intersting list. Could argue all of them I think.
Look at Stanley Cups as a big boost. Like Kopitarbit then a guy like Patty Meho doesn't have a cup but has great numbers.
Interesting list tho for sure.

15 Jan 2018 12:43:02
Anze Kopitar - yes
Patrick Marleau - yes
Roberto Luongo - yes
Nicolas Backston - I'd say yes, but I guess no
Shea Weber - no
Corey Perry - no
Ryan Getzlaf - yes
Jonathan Quick - 50:50, he has two Cups
Tuuka Rask - no
Henrik Zetterberg -yes.

14 Jan 2018 19:12:24
Arizona has set an asking price for OEL.
Two "top flight" players as well as a 1st round pick.
Also shopping Hjalmersson.

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14 Jan 2018 19:56:41
When they say top flight. What are they taking about? Like Stone? Or a Gallagher? Because 2 Stones and a 1st i think are way to much.
I think OEL is a good Dman. don't get me wrong. But I don't see him in the upper echelon of D. maybe it's because being in Arizona, it's not about hockey there but soap opera about the business aspect.
Maybe someone can educate me about OEL. I see his offensive stats are good. how is his D? I guess that's what i'd like to know, is he a complete guy like Hedman?
I jus don't know enough about the buy to judge his value.

14 Jan 2018 20:18:24
He's still in the top 15 dmen in the league for sure. Probably top 10 if he was anywhere else other then arizona.

14 Jan 2018 20:39:32
Ya I'm not really sure myself. i'm hoping it's not two established top line wingers type a thing. Maybe like A prospects with good potential? One top prospect and one established good player?
I'm not sure. The only Bing I'm taking out of this is that's he's now in fact available for trade. Weather he was or wasn't before when Chayka was saying he isn't available, who cares. He is now. And yes a hell of a piece for any blue line.
There's a lot of big names out there that could change teams for next season. It's kinda exciting.
Lots going on around guys like Karlsson, Tavares, Doughty. That's not saying they are moving, also not saying they aren't. Who knows.
E Kane. Pacioretty. Hoffman. Johnson. OEL. JVR (? ) .
Lots of bigger names could be had.

14 Jan 2018 23:42:33
Kadri, Rielly And 1st. Iโ€™d hate trading Rielly and Iโ€™d try replacing him with Gardiner.

15 Jan 2018 04:35:18
I'll put this in the right post. but it's prob all effed up now. thanks Habby and Yup on your OEL insight.

15 Jan 2018 16:37:36
Im don't think plus/ minus is a great stat but he's like - 40 this year so.

14 Jan 2018 17:32:54
Hey Yup..
Did ya make it the Vegas game?? If so.. what was it like ..

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14 Jan 2018 18:58:21
Nooooo I am so mad I didn't make it work out. A friend of mine went, said it was so fun. Like 5000 Oilers fans there. So many got together and filled a bar before the game, chanting and everything. Said it was just so much fun. Vegas puts on a good show. I've watched a bunch of their games in tv and their atmosphere in the arena looks so awesome no matter who's playing. I am going to Vegas in Feb tho for some big poker tourneys, that's why I didn't go now. Looked like a fun game tho
I wonder who went out partying. McDavid turned 21 yesterday and they have their 5 days off now. Ha.

14 Jan 2018 22:23:31
So I can some idea. Habby., Yup. what would you guys give for him?
As a Habs fan, I don't know If wanna send my 18 1st round pick.
I find Dman, really hard to value.
He may Very well be worth a ton.

For comparison. I really like Ekholm outta Nashville. who ya take? And is it close. Cause over the years on here, the way OEL is talked about. he's on par with Lidstrom ect.

15 Jan 2018 00:24:57
Wrong place again Sosa lol but I'd take OEL over ek holm any day of the week and twice on Sunday. its not even close IMO. I'm not sure if there is a deal to be had from montreal I don't think they would want to give up the asking price with the way the season is going.

15 Jan 2018 00:25:37
He will get a nice package from wherever he goes.

15 Jan 2018 00:33:43
Man you posted a comment to a wrong thread, again. Get yourself together man

I actually like OEL more than Ekholm. Easily
If you were to ask about Josi or OEL, that's a lot closer to me and might be a tie.

I would give Klefbom, 1st and something else. It even sure what tho. It would probably have to be a Moto or Nuge. Still probably would I think. Not even sure they would take that or get better offers from someone else. For OEL.

15 Jan 2018 01:13:33
Once again. I posted on wrong post. Geeze, I'm getting old an senile.

14 Jan 2018 05:24:00
Just an idea but I think it's be cool if the NHL created an All-NHL team at the end of each season. Exactly the same as the NBA (they have 3 All-NBA teams). This would recognize the true best players that season and wouldn't be a fan vote like the All-Star game is because let's face it the All-Star is a popularity contest.

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14 Jan 2018 06:22:56
Umm. we have the 1st All star team
And the 2nd. since like the 50s or something. Even an all rookie team.


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