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18 Mar 2018 22:19:29
If, by the draft, Toronto feels Calvin Pickard and/ or Garrett Sparks are ready to be full time, good NHL backups:

Curtis McElhinney and Matt Martin to the New York Islanders in exchange for the rights to Thomas Hickey and a 2nd Round Draft Pick (CGY) .

- I just commented on anothers posters post about Phillip Grub to the Islanders, and I felt that that may not be the right direction for them to go in because they need a proven NHL starter. Again, I stand by those words. However, McElhinney would not be put into a starters position, he'd be a backup to another goalie that the Islanders would acquire (Craig Anderson, Antti Raanta, Jacob Markstrom, Cam Ward. someone with starter experience) . Macs numbers are extremely solid, with a 2.09 GAA and a 10-4-1 record. He also has 3 shutouts in those 15 games. A mid 2nd would be a fair price to pay for an above average backup tbh.

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19 Mar 2018 00:30:20
Woah. Too much for those two. Easy No from Islandees.

19 Mar 2018 10:26:26
Yeah, that's what I thought. Maybe a 3rd? Idk. Cause Mac has been phenomenal this year, and a team like the Islanders would be desperate enough to try and acquire him. With Macs stats, I wouldn't take less than a 3rd tho, he's been unreal.

19 Mar 2018 15:29:54
I don't really see where it's a lot considering hickey is a ufa that you would still have to sign even after aquiring his rights. No guarentee he signs. could turn out to be just a 2nd for martin and mac. And if there is one team in the league that might want martin it could be the islanders.

20 Mar 2018 02:44:17
@TSS he’s been great as a back up, but he’s 34. He’s not one of those back ups that you hope to acquire cheap and hope he becomes your starter. He is what he is. He been great behind the busiest goalie in the league. But he’s not a guy I’d put a ton of faith in starting a ton of games which is what isles would want. I think they have younger guys that they can get without trading those assets to play 15-20 games.

17 Mar 2018 22:13:28
Predicting the habs will beat the leafs tonight but I hope I'm wrong lol

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18 Mar 2018 03:03:04
go leafs go.

18 Mar 2018 15:47:59
MapleLeafs beat the Laval Rocket.

18 Mar 2018 18:20:52
Good prediction.

18 Mar 2018 18:27:05
At least I got what I wanted yup lol. The hell with the prediction.

19 Mar 2018 19:15:26
Coins about to be flipped, I say, I think it's going to be heads but I want it to be tails. Look like a genius either way, Right? Lol.

19 Mar 2018 23:30:06
No yup it's impossible to look like a genius on this site cause everyone already knows everything.

20 Mar 2018 02:44:52

17 Mar 2018 17:12:29
Who is everyone's hart trophy nominees?mine are
1 mackinnon
2 malkin
3 hall

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18 Mar 2018 15:50:52
Pretty good list.

Maybe not the top pick, but I think a guy like Blake Wheeler should get some consideration. If Flames make playoffs, Johnny Gaudreau could get some votes. however, your 3 are probably the top.

18 Mar 2018 16:12:11
If Aves make the playoffs I say McKinnon.

18 Mar 2018 18:21:39
Wheeler should get some talk too for sure, agreed Sosa. Such a good leader for the Jets, especially Liane.

18 Mar 2018 19:28:43
Wheeler has been good but I wouldn't take him over any of the 3 I've mentioned. If avs make the playoffs I think it's Mack hands down. Malkin is tearing it up and without him the pens probably don't make the playoffs this year. and Taylor hall has 30 more points then any other player on his team. There are a handful of guys who could be just outside of those 3. Kucherov, gaudreau mcdavid wheeler ovechkin and laine if he wins the rocket are all in the same boat pretty much.

16 Mar 2018 18:10:14
Anyone want to make some predictions on the playoff line up?

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16 Mar 2018 20:50:03
I'm so original. But I'm liking Tampa, Preds, Jets, Pens.
I think I'm cheering for a Bolts Jets final. Jets win.
But I'm thinking as most people a Bolts Preds final would be damn good. Preds maybe the favorite.

17 Mar 2018 00:01:20
What I have is:

Bolts and Jackets out of the East and Sharks and Preds out of the West.

What I want to see happen:

Leafs and Pens and Jets and Vegas.

17 Mar 2018 03:06:37
Only two teams I care about are not going to make it.

15 Mar 2018 04:37:39
Hey biased jim how silly would winnipeg look if they had traded multiple picks to swap picks with toronto to draft Matthews instead of laine.? I mean I'm not coming out and saying laine is better but like yup says "stats don't lie"

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15 Mar 2018 04:43:42
Before you reply with some of your usual reasoning remember the things you have said about dahlin. And also the comparisons you made about pacioretty and other players. I'm ready for those so don't waste your time. Also the good old reliable I'd rather have the center any day excuse is played out too.

15 Mar 2018 05:15:28
I don’t think you can go wrong with either player habby. Both players are near a ppg in their short careers. Mathews has battled injuries this year which you can’t predict. Laine is a pure sniper but Mathews is pretty good at that himself. I would’ve been happy with either but the leafs haven’t had a #1 center since Sundin. They had a sniper in Kessel and got nowhere. Please continue, don’t let me get in the way of your argument.

15 Mar 2018 06:04:35
Yes leafs17 all valid points like usual from you. forgive me for what may be said next lol, it will be directed at only one person.

15 Mar 2018 11:49:32
Imo, i like both, but I think the Leafs would be doing worse with Laine than Matthews. Both are extremely talented, but if Leafs take Laine instead, our centre depth becomes putrid and pretty awful, and as seen by many good teams, you need good centres to do well. I think both teams go the right player though, Matthews to be the number 1 centre on a team w/ o one, and Laine to be the unstobbale number 1 winger on a team with a solid centre in Schiefele already.

15 Mar 2018 13:15:55
I would much rather have Matthews than laine. I have never said a bad thing about laine, he’s An insane talent. Difference is he’s going to get paid just like Matthews is and keeping in mind exactly as I said about patches like you want me to, I’d rather have the player who does more. No one can shoot like laine besides ovechkin, and I give him tons of credit for that. But I don’t want my team to have a rocket Richard trophy winner on it at the expense of Stanley cups. I’m a huge ovi fan too and don’t think it’s fair when he takes all the blame for caps lack of playoff success, however looking at history I don’t think it’s hard to see that Crosby over ovi, or Lemieux over Brett Hull etc is the better route to team success. A legit do everything centre gives you a much better chance at being a champion than a sniper winger.

In saying that, Winnipeg wouldn’t trade the farm to move up and take Matthews because they already had 22 or 23 year old scheiffele in that role on one of the best contracts in the entire league. Along with a great team top to bottom. The habs on the other hand don’t have a legit building block under 29 in ANY position. So comparing that makes zero sense. Unless they don’t want a guy like Dahlin to help them win because they have Mete as their building block on the blue line?

15 Mar 2018 14:51:07
Hahahahahahahahahaha. Why didn't you just write a book? . Laine hits more and plays a more gritty game so by your logic doesn't that make him better.?

15 Mar 2018 15:08:52
Also when I made the arguement that Dahlin could be a player as impactful as Matthews, does that mean you’re saying Boqvist is comparable to laine?! Laine was breaking scoring records over seas and winning league championships and medals internationally at 17. Pre draft laine was a lot closer to Matthews than Boqvist is to Dahlin, you’re just too stubborn or stupid to admit that.

15 Mar 2018 15:40:26
Habby fishing and twisting conversations. Pretty funny.

15 Mar 2018 16:03:16
No jim I was referring to your comparison of generational talent. Which I took as, considering matthews was drafted first overall by your logic meant he was a lot better then anyone else in the draft. My question to you on this post was whether or not winnipeg would look pretty stupid now if they had traded multiple picks to toronto to draft Matthews instead of laine. But you probably wouldn't admit that either because according to you matthews is a GOD and by the way you were talking he's already won a cup. You know that comment where you said you wouldn't want a rocket richard winner at the expense of a cup. Like wtf? You wouldn't want the leagues leading goal scorer on your team? Has matthews won a cup that I'm not aware of?

15 Mar 2018 16:06:40
You can argue Matthews isn’t more complete if you want, you just sound dumber by the post. Matthews has 45 more blocked shots, 54 more takeaways with 7 less giveaways in 8 less games than laine. And that’s fine, laines strength obviously shows through in his offensive game as a pure sniper and he’s great at it. Saying that, laine has 9 more goals and 1 more assist while playing 8 more career games. His offence is better, but not blowing Matthews out of the water to make up for the rest of the game Matthews plays. your argument is going nowhere here.

15 Mar 2018 16:38:29
Should we get a new tab up top for Habby vs. Jim posts.

15 Mar 2018 17:15:27
No, thunder I’m done lol he’s shown he’s a closed minded ignorant habs fan. Probably one of the 15000 that boo the American national anthem when Brian gionta was their captain, hal Gill was assistant and pacioretty was leading scorer, all Americans. He fits the bill lol.

15 Mar 2018 17:36:29
Yes yup that's seems to be the way with a few guys on this site.

15 Mar 2018 17:50:06
Ah good one jim I'm a racist toward Americans now cause I don't agree with everything you say lol.

15 Mar 2018 18:08:11
American isn't a race lol.

15 Mar 2018 18:14:51
I’m not dumb enough to think America is a race, called you ignorant, not racist. And by you thinking America is a race shows ignorance.

15 Mar 2018 18:18:40
But jim all those stats don't mean anything pacioretty has close to 10 times more hits then saad but saad is the more physical player right? I guess advanced stats only matter when comparing a leaf player. i guess I could have been more like leaf fans and go to games with a paper bag on my head lol.

15 Mar 2018 18:32:47
And I thought you were done lol.

15 Mar 2018 18:59:51
There’s a few idiots in every crowd in every stadium. Never seen a whole crowd dismiss an entire nation over a hockey game anywhere but Montreal. It wasn’t a few ppl. The people not booing were the minority by a long shot.

15 Mar 2018 19:27:10
Jim stupid things happen in every crowd if you were not so biased you would see that. you hate the habs and your there fans just admit it. I honestly don't care nobody here is going to think less of you we can all see it with your posts. The embarrassing thing is your user name. Just change it man. pretty much anything would be better then it is.

15 Mar 2018 19:33:43
They booed once in protest of the Iraq war and another time cause they hate boston. it wasn't right I'll admit to that but it doesn't seem so bad when you know the reasoning.

15 Mar 2018 20:01:09
Every game of a series vs Boston but that’s not the days when their core were all Americans. It was after that. It was a game I was actually at against Philly when I saw it live, and seen it on tv plenty of times since. And it’s not bad when you know the reason lol one of your reasons is they hate the bruins haha not that bad to boo a national anthem because you’re losing to one team of 23 players. And booing an anthem in front of American players for a war across the world. Jesus.

15 Mar 2018 20:09:24
Must have slipped my mind that G Tim Thomas of the bruins and LW JVR of the Flyers were doubling as secretary of defence for the US at that time.

15 Mar 2018 20:52:29
Just putting it out there. Doesn’t Matthews and Nylander split faceoffs? You can argue a center is more valuable but if he’s not taking faceoffs I’m pretty sure another player will take over thag losition which Nylander is capable of. And he does become a center then the leafs would currently have a center depth excluding Matthews of Nylander, Bozak and kadri (also plekanec but he’s there short term) so add in Laine and his gritty style of play with tremendous goal scoring abilities seems like a very intriguing option and it’s not like Matthews is big and can throw huts all the time so it’s not like Nylander would be any worst. Just putting it out there.

15 Mar 2018 22:20:08
@AO99 I get your point. But Nylander wasn’t so sure to be a big impact centreman like Matthews should be. He’s looked decent there in the short term. Matthews takes the mass majority of the face offs. Nylander has been at centre since Matthews has been hurt and occasionally in the offensive zone on the strong side nylander will take it or if Matthews gets waived out.

Nylander also had a brief run at centre earlier in the season and they’re kinda grooming him as an option at centre if bozak leaves. Overall Matthews has taken almost 200 more facepffs while playing 17 less games than Nylander. And most of those face offs by nylander is when he was centering his own line, not taking them for Matthews. Also Matthews is not a physical guy that’s going to lay big hits, but Of you don’t think he’s big, I don’t know who you’re looking at, or you’re a monster lol he’s 6’3” 220 and very strong on pucks. Nylanders very strong on pucks for his size tho as well.

15 Mar 2018 22:38:10
Basically what I’m saying is I’m 100% sure that Matthews will be a good legit number 1 centre. Nylander might be able to be a top centre, but we could find out he’s best as a complimentary scoring winger and if you don’t have Matthews, then you’re forcing Nylander to be that and it’s the Drouin situation again. Leafs waited 10 years for a top centre and wouldn’t be willing to risk that again on what I’ve seen from Nylander in the middle so far.

16 Mar 2018 00:27:13
That was hard to read. You guys done yet?

14 Mar 2018 11:34:51
Have a legit comparison question. I was perousing another site and saw some comen's I thought were completely wrong.

It was stated that darnell nurse was over all a better defenseman than colton parayko. I know I'm a bit bias but I just don't see it and advanced stats agree with me

With out being to vicious can I get whom you think and why.

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14 Mar 2018 15:15:04
Whoever suggested nurse is better is either a homer or just don't know hockey. It isn't even close ATM. I like nurse and he is improving but he's nowhere near parayko yet. maybe someday but not yet.

14 Mar 2018 21:12:02
Nurse better then Parayko? What? Nurse is maybe half the defensemen that Parayko is. Parayko is a Elite top 2 defensmen. Nurse is a solif top 4 D but if he's your best defensmen in your locker room your screwed. If Parayko is your best defesemen in your team (wich he is not rn because of Petro in St louis who I value just a notch over) they're can still be guys like Dumba, Klefbom, Ellis, Ekholm behind him. See what I mean? Petro and Parayko is a categorie over all those last guys that I put Nirse with in a year or two. Right now is games needs to improve drasticaly before even being serously considered better all arohnd then Parayko.

14 Mar 2018 22:37:50
Definitely parayko right now and I assume for a long time.

13 Mar 2018 23:50:14
Which 5-Man Squad would you rather have?
(Ignore contracts, term, entry-level status: just focus on the players)

Squad A:
(D) Aaron Ekblad (2014 1st Overall Pick)
(C) Leon Draisaitl (2014 4th Overall Pick - Redraft would have him 1st/ 2nd Overall)
(C) Connor McDavid (2015 1st Overall Pick)
(W) Patrik Laine (2016 2nd Overall Pick)
(C) Nolan Patrick (2017 2nd Overall Pick)

Squad B:
(C) Jack Eichel (2015 2nd Overall Pick)
(C) Auston Matthews (2016 1st Overall Pick)
(C) Nico Hischier (2017 1st Overall Pick)
(D) Rasmus Dahlin (2018 Presumed 1st Overall Pick)
(W) Andrei Svechnikov (2018 Presumed 2nd Overall Pick)

For me, this is super close. I'd probably lean towards Squad B because the talent level seems to be very close between the players. Idk tho.

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14 Mar 2018 03:30:25
I think the two best players are on squad A so I'd have to go with that one.

14 Mar 2018 03:32:14
McDavid and who cares. He is the best player. He makes everyone bettet.

14 Mar 2018 04:07:48
We'll van city apparently he doesn't make lucic better but yeah he's still the best there.

14 Mar 2018 04:23:03
Ahahahha he can’t make Lucic better, A player that has scored 30 goals in the past and isn’t even 30 years old yet but people still think Mcdavid is better Crosby.

14 Mar 2018 09:29:30
Easily A.

14 Mar 2018 16:18:49
The group with Drouin.

14 Mar 2018 22:43:43
Group A because group B has 2 players who have never played in the NHL. If you had them on 2 different groups, would be a more fair question. Best player is clearly on group A, and then Matthews in group B I think is next with Laine 3rd, although lately Laine has definitely made a case for himself while Matthews has been out hurt.

15 Mar 2018 04:12:25
But but but biased jim rasmus dahlin is already better then bobby orr eventhough he's never played an nhl game.

15 Mar 2018 13:17:36
I’ve never said anything remotely close to that lol I said he’s a lot better than the guy being taken 5th or 6th and that pro scouts say he’s further ahead in his development than Karlsson was at the same age.

15 Mar 2018 16:07:33
So he has the value of 2 lottery picks and 3 2nd rounders but he's not any good. Make up your mind man.

15 Mar 2018 16:35:07
You’re showing the tool you are. In bright colours. You have this bitterness that's comes out whenever someone says the habs aren’t great or made a dumb decision. Get that in check before you’re mark Lepine 2.0 over a game man.

15 Mar 2018 16:40:47
Last week I thought after a cpl days of working how great every Canadiens player was and kissing your ass in every reply, it would give you some peace and we could go back to being honest again but apparently you weren’t ready for honesty yet. Montreal will be a powerhouse soon enough with or without Dahlin or any other prime player to build around. They are well on their way to it already with Victor Mete, Charlie lindgren and drouin as the three young guys in the most important position. Plus add in their first rounder from last year who said “it’s exciting being picked by such a great organization like the Maple leafs” moments after being picked by the habs haha.

13 Mar 2018 15:47:15
Just a question:

If Seattle was to get an NHL team with an expansion draft involved, would you prefer to see a different type of protection system for that draft?

Cause looking at Vegas right now, they got a boatload of talented players because the expansion draft only allowed minimal protection. Players like James Neal, David Perron and even MAF are too good to be lost. They should be compensation if the expansion team decides to pick a bad contract, or whatever.

Cause for teams who build a stackes team (Nashville, Minnesota), they're losing a really good player for no reason.

In this future draft, Carolina would certainly lose a guy like Haydn Fleury, Toronto would lose a guy like Connor Brown, Nashville would lose one of their good forwards if they protected 4/ 4. It just doesn't seem right tbh.

I'd prefer a protection scheme of:

10 skaters and 1 goalie.

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13 Mar 2018 16:32:59
Or something like 12 skaters/ goalies, so you can protect like two goalies and ten skaters.

13 Mar 2018 18:06:17
Well now the table has been set as to say by the previous expansion, I can't see them changing it. I was/ am not a fan of the last expansion draft., I think of teams like Nashville, Columbus ect who had to suffer through some really tough years to begin there franchise. now I think that way was a little to harsh, somewhere in the middle Of like to see.
Good on Vegas for taking advantage of the expansion draft and doing a great job with it however.

13 Mar 2018 20:51:04
To be honest, i think the success of Vegas has a lot to do with the amount of scouting they did. Even after i saw the team picked i thought - meh. A lot of those guys were just not getting the ice time they deserved or were capable of taking on with their previous teams because of who was in-front of them.
Also, don't think you should be able to protect 2 goalies per team. the expansion team wouldn't stand a chance for years. Not often you get a team with MAF and Murry as their 1/ 2. probably should have traded MAF to NYI before the draft for some good assets.

13 Mar 2018 20:57:19
Would you be saying the same thing if they weren't overachieving.
The fact that all those players came together with the same sense of "my team didn't want me" and created a tight group that has gelled so well together, is impressive. No one really saw it coming. Helps that about 15 players are having career years. I think they are the definition of a team and teamwork. Good for them.

13 Mar 2018 23:21:54
Turkey and yup got it right. I'd be shocked if the Seattle team came in with the same rules and were even competitive. on top of this being arguably the biggest suprise of the season with Vegas over achieving at pretty much every position teams will probably not make the same mistakes they did last year which allowed Vegas to pick up a few good players. and tbh I can't see Vegas making the playoffs next year or getting out of the 1st round of the playoffs this year.

14 Mar 2018 00:41:41

Naw, I just genuinelly don't feel that its fair for teams like Columbus, Nashville and Minny to lose quality players that they got through hard building. Idk. Especially with James Neal. I felt like he was a prime reason why the expansion draft rules/ protection limits were kinda flawed. he's a 25+ goal scorer and is still at a relatively decent age. Someone from Nashville that would've been fair would've been like Colin Wilson, or Austin Watson or someone like dat. Those are like the real 'cast-offs' who need a new home. That might just be my opinion tho. Hopefully i explained it decently, lol.

14 Mar 2018 01:27:54
I think this system works. It gives an expansion team a chance to win right from the start. Vagas' success is not just because of the players they picked up. It also has a lot to do with coaching and style of play. They were winning games with AHL goalies. It also helps new markets. They are on the front page of the papers for good reasons not because of how bad they are.

14 Mar 2018 22:57:01
Nashville and Columbus etc were not paying $750 million for a team, plus arena, leases, equipment etc. This is a $1.25billon investment in the NHLs product as where 20 years ago I’d be shocked if it as more than $250-300 million. The NHL and the owners that get those expansion fees are very aware that if you want that kind of money to be part of your league, these guys want some advantages to be good teams and compete sooner to start making back that massive start up cost. New Owners won’t put out that kind of money up front if they aren’t going to have a legit shot at playoff revenues and deep runs for 10-15 years.

14 Mar 2018 22:59:37
Also I agree that Vegas is not the typical scenario and Seattle would have a better team than Columbus and Atlanta etc of the start, but I would bet my house on them not repeating Vegas’s first year success. This is one of the most unbelievable instant chemistry stories in sports history, not just hockey.

13 Mar 2018 15:12:15
Bigest surprise of the year in the nhl:

Van: Boeser

St Louis: Brayden S

Boston: Heinen

Col: Kerfoot

Phil: Giroux

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13 Mar 2018 15:51:50
William Karlsson gets a mention.

13 Mar 2018 16:34:00
The Golden Knights in general deserve a mention.

13 Mar 2018 19:58:45
Ya like 15 of their players are having career years. Lol. They are over achieving for sure.

14 Mar 2018 23:07:14
I still can’t get over that Florida gave them marchessault (66gp 22g 43a - 65pts) just to take Rielly Smiths (66gp 22g 38a - 60pts) contract. If smith even plays 80% as good for the next 3 years as he has this year, his contract is fine. 5 mill for a 26 year old 20g/ 50pt man isn’t going to cripple you.

12 Mar 2018 22:04:54
Quick question. Why can’t offsides be as simple as if any part of your body is over the line before the puck then it’s offside. It’s a simple as that in soccer and I think it works brilliant. Of course some linesman make a bad call but the rule is clear and everyone can accept it.

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12 Mar 2018 22:45:06
I personally find the offside rule in soccer to be one of the most unnecessarily complicated rules in sports lol it’s as subjective, if not more subjective than hockey.

12 Mar 2018 23:51:31
I feel like the rule where a players skate has to be in the ice for it to be onside is a bit ridiculous. Shouldn’t be challengable. It is so abused and just wastes time off the clock when they challenge for offside. I think it should be when both skates break the vertical plane it is offside.

13 Mar 2018 03:08:09
Sorry how is the soccer rule complicated? Either a part of your body is infront of the last man back or he’s not, it’s pretty simple. I’d like hockey to take an approach like that where if any part of your body is over the blue linen before the puck then it’s offside. No stupid skate exception or any bs like that.

13 Mar 2018 11:50:34
So then reversely if any part of the puck hits the blue line in the offensive zone is it cleared and offside if played? Hockey has been a sport where the whole of an object has to cross the line. Whole puck for goals/ offside etc. Makes sense it would remain consistent that way. The skate on/ off ice thing is stupid though doesn't make much difference so shouldn't impact offsides.

13 Mar 2018 17:59:39
Well soccers rule is when a pass is made, then they look at the plane of offside. That’s why I said it’s unnecessarily complicated. The rule isn’t bad the way it is. It’s the challenge being used far beyond what it was implemented to do. It was brought in because Duchene scores a goal while being 12 feet offside. It was not intended for coaches and fans to complain about a quarter inch when a linesman has to make that call at full speed, from ice level while avoiding being run over by 220 lb players. Obviously the coaches will use it to the letter of the law to gain advantage, but the rule isn’t that complicated.


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