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09 Nov 2018 23:20:14
I might be way off here but Minnesota is looking for scoring and Pittsburgh is looking to change things up.
Spurgeon, Fehr & a 1st for Kessel
Spurgeon, Eriksson for Kessel

Spurgeon improves Pittsburgh's defense, Fehr adds some center depth and has already played there, plus a 1st. In the second proposal, I really don't know much about Eriksson but he's young and from what I've heard from you guys, he's supposed to be good. The cap in both deals are similar. Although Kessel only plays at one end of the rink, he is at the top of the league in scoring year after year. You have to give to get.


1.) 10 Nov 2018 04:50:20
Erikson El might become a bust at this point.



23 Oct 2018 10:13:03
Babcock has said he'd like a couple bigger bodies up front. Mantha is off to a slow start and Ithere's rumors of a possible change of scenery.

Kapanen plus 2019 1st for Mantha?

Kapanen 1st round 22nd OA 22 years old
Mantha 1sr round 20th OA 24 years old
Kapanen has the speed and although a small sample size, the talent to play in the top 6. He is also 2 years younger. Mantha is a proven scorer but doesn't put up big point totals. He has size but apparently lacks intensity sometimes. I added the 1st because Mantha is more proven. Is it fair value wise?

Or ignore all of this and sign Nash when he's ready.


1.) 23 Oct 2018 13:18:32
Is there really that much a difference between the two players, a 1st round pick difference? With all the Leaf fan praise for Kapanen I'm a little surprised to see you would add a 1st to him for Mantha.

2.) 23 Oct 2018 14:13:26
I don’t think there’s a huge difference in skills, mantra has had more time to prove himself than kappy. He’s not 6’5 like mantra but he can fly and works his ass off. The last thing Babcock wants is a guy who lacks intensity.

3.) 23 Oct 2018 15:30:19
I’ve always been a fan of Kapanen, this is the first we’ve seen him play in the top 6. It may not be the best idea to trade him but a power forward is much needed IMO. Babcock demands intensity and I think playing on a team that is supposed to be contending would help Mantha with that. Maybe the 1st is not needed but Mantha has proven himself more, mostly because of age and Kapanen not cracking the top 6 until now. I’d rather trade Nylander + for Mantha and one of Detroit’s young RD prospects but I don’t know enough about them to make such a proposal.

4.) 24 Oct 2018 22:08:38
I don’t think the difference is a 1st round pick. I also know that Babcock hates lack of intensity. I think he would rather Kapanens speed and look elsewhere for size. Mantha was a beast of a goal scorer in junior, bit till he shows a bit more in the NhL, I don’t think the return is a younger good player and a 1st.



20 Jul 2018 20:40:10
Winnipeg: Trouba
Edmonton: Draisaitl


1.) 20 Jul 2018 21:04:08
I doubt Edmonton would do it and the Jets can't afford Draisaitl's contract. But value wise as long as Draisaitl can actually start carrying a line as a 2C, it is pretty good. 2C for a top pairing RHD.

2.) 20 Jul 2018 21:46:52
Memarcuswindowlicker approves.

3.) 20 Jul 2018 22:03:27
Oh boy. much rather Draisatl to Trouba.

4.) 20 Jul 2018 22:09:44
Lmao no from oilers come on joe.

5.) 20 Jul 2018 22:12:59
Edmonton needs Drat way more than they need Trouba. Also value wise it isn’t there. Imo. Especially Trouba thinking he’s a top 10 dman in the league. Not a chance.

6.) 20 Jul 2018 23:02:47
Sorry guys, I was just trying to make a point of how ridiculous all the Trouba trades were getting. I really didn’t think biasjoe would think this is fair.

7.) 20 Jul 2018 23:29:18
I prefer you keep Draisaitl as well. The longer the Oilers have that much tied up in bad contracts up front and keep rolling out an ECHL quality defense, the longer they stay anchored to dead last in the West.

8.) 20 Jul 2018 23:47:12
Ya crap, back to back 70 point - 22 year old, big solid strong centers are so terrible to have. Sucks.

9.) 21 Jul 2018 03:18:53
Have fun resigning your core Marcus, especially when Trouba who ain't even the number one dman on your team wants 7 million and has temper tantrums because he's playing behind Buff.

10.) 21 Jul 2018 06:20:45
HAhahaha wtf sick chirp.

11.) 21 Jul 2018 09:12:37
ECHL quality defence? Larsson is just as good as Trouba. Klefbom and nurse are just as good as and if not better then Myers. Not do mention they grabbed Bouchard who has top 2 potential and have Bear in the pipe line. I’m pretty sure Klefbom would score 3 goals per period in the ECHL.

12.) 21 Jul 2018 11:26:53
Wow vbb. 👏👏👏. Salute - No sarcasm there.

13.) 21 Jul 2018 17:26:46
Vbb you just mentioned how to defence on Edmonton who are as good as Myers. The jets bottom pairing defence.

14.) 21 Jul 2018 17:31:42
This trade would only happen if the Oilers retained $2 mil per year of Draisaitls contract.

15.) 21 Jul 2018 19:44:36
@IJ your so biased, its not even funny, lol.

Your idea of a realistic trade is probably Nico Hischier for Trouba. Lol.

16.) 21 Jul 2018 23:25:54
Myers/ Moreissy is their 3rd best dman.

17.) 22 Jul 2018 00:09:06
Not even close vb. Myers is fourth at most probably fifth when kulikov is actually health. Myers has issues in his end.

18.) 22 Jul 2018 06:17:31
Haha alpaca. 2 weeks ago jets fans were saying Myers would be top pair on half the teams in the league. Now vbb names guys better and just to discredit that you say Myers is terrible lol. New level of little man syndrome. Most clueless fans.

19.) 22 Jul 2018 15:14:43
You'll notice none of those were me.

20.) 22 Jul 2018 15:59:08
You’re saying Kulikov is better than Myers lol and that no oilers Dman is as good as either of them. That makes you, islandjet and MarcusJoe all one. If you did a one to one comparison of why you would rather Myers over klefbom, I can respect that. Just coming out and saying no one on Edmonton is as good as Kulikov who was being scratched in buffalo after being traded from Florida for very little is clearly just trash. Klefbom and Larson are clearly better than Kulikov. And better than Myers.

21.) 23 Jul 2018 06:32:50
Never commented on edmontons defence. I simply pointed out that he compared them to Myers. Your reading an awful lot into my comments. And yes a healthy kulikov is as good or better than Myers.



20 Jul 2018 20:39:28
Winnipeg: Trouba
Toronto: Matthews


1.) 20 Jul 2018 21:06:06
Yes, let's see you talk Leaf fans into this. A generational player, 10 or 20 times better than McDavid for a crappy D man?

2.) 20 Jul 2018 21:38:19
ok this is obviously a bad trade but . Mathews 20x better than Mcdavid? that's a joke, Mcdavid is the best hockey player in the world . Mathews is Maybe Top 10.

3.) 20 Jul 2018 21:38:59
How about what a jets fan thinks biasjoe? Is Matthews good enough to carry a 2nd line? Is that enough to offer for a top 10 d man in the league?

4.) 20 Jul 2018 22:04:55
Who said Trouba was crappy and who said Matthews is so much better than McDavid? Marcus get your head checked please.

5.) 20 Jul 2018 22:41:38
No from jets Trouba is a god. He deserves 10 million because he’s a true #1rhd. It’s McDavid or bust- Jets fans.

6.) 20 Jul 2018 23:32:16
I for one have never heard anyone say that Trouba was crappy and I don’t even think that vbb’s would say Matthews is better than McDavid. Biasjoe has had a rough couple days to say the least.

7.) 21 Jul 2018 03:19:51
Trouba>EKs wheels + Kanes hands + Charas height + McDavids hockey IQ.

8.) 21 Jul 2018 05:55:17
I don't understand why everyone overvalues leafs players? I obviously don’t think he’s as good as McDavid he’s on the Eichel level imo. Maybe abit better ( 40 goals vs what ever Eichel got but yah ) .

9.) 21 Jul 2018 18:04:37
I never thought I would agree with vbbbvvbb. Matthews has shown in the playoffs that he is not a generational talent but a good player.



20 Jul 2018 20:38:56
Winnipeg: Trouba
Ottawa: Karlsson


1.) 20 Jul 2018 20:58:24
Ottawa adds. Karlsson is inconsistent and injury prone, whereas trouba is a star in the making, leading the jets to the conference finals.

2.) 20 Jul 2018 21:08:30
Nope. Jets can't afford to pay Karlsson what he wants with the players they have coming up for renewal.

Plus, as Montreal taught us, you don't trade a really good young defenseman for a really good old one.

3.) 20 Jul 2018 22:45:17
Crazyattack- I agree. Soccer has Renoldo, Basketball had Jordan, Baseball had Babe Ruth and the NHL has Trouba.

4.) 20 Jul 2018 23:08:29
Vbb that might be your best response ever lol.

5.) 21 Jul 2018 04:05:24
@vbbbvvbb finally the first time I agree with you, except its spelled Ronaldo

6.) 21 Jul 2018 05:56:18
Sorry man I don’t follow anysport besides hockey lol.

7.) 21 Jul 2018 16:15:55
And marcusjoe, you could also say that trade would never happen because Karlsson would never move to Winnipeg. Like Trouba has tried to leave and will again, his rights are owned there and didn’t want to be there. Why would a guy who could go to 31 cities be there. Couldn’t convince Paul Statsny to leave $750k on the table to live there for a chance to win, not getting a Karlsson anyway.

8.) 21 Jul 2018 17:34:41
No chance as the Jets won't be able to sign Karlsson for what he wants, unless the Jets trade him for what they would want.

9.) 21 Jul 2018 17:50:35
This is laughable easy Ottawa says no and walking away.




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06 Nov 2018 11:21:01
Just when you thought the drama in Ottawa was over. They should just fold the organization and start fresh somewhere new. No offence to Sens fans but this past 6 months has been a disgrace. It looks like some good young talent coming up too but even Chabot was involved this time. I know it may not seem like a big deal in comparison to other things going on, but this doesn't sit well with management. How long before the assistant coach steps down or is replaced? Any comments Rambo?


1.) 06 Nov 2018 17:33:18
This is an overblown story. It’s not flattering on the players, but it’s not a big deal. The problem is just the timing and the situation. If it was any other team, it’s nothing. But because it’s like the 5th or 6th embarrassing leak out of the Sens in a year, and they traded away good players in an attempt to get back on track it seems far worse. Add in that 2 of the players in the car were Duchene and Chabot., One guy that they were hoping to convince to stick around and one guy they’re hoping to be a face of the team going forward and it’s not good lol.

2.) 06 Nov 2018 17:57:34
Is Rambone an uber driver in Phoenix?

That just sucks that happened to Sens players with the way that organization has gone the last few months. I bet players talk like that all over the league. That über driver is a major dick for that breach of privacy. I feel for the guys on this one. We all know how much a joke the Sens organization has been. This is a tough one. Cherry on top.

3.) 06 Nov 2018 19:41:36
IMO it’s a fairly big deal Jim. 100% every other team does this. But it’s going to separate the room. I’m sure they lost a lot of respect from the coaches and some players. Kinda sounds like the coaches aren’t very good and they should change things up though. Lol.

4.) 06 Nov 2018 20:51:38
I don’t mean it’s not a big deal within the room and with the coaches. It’s going to be awkward to work through. But media wise, if it was another team (not habs or leafs because media jumps on someone who farts in these markets) it would be a quick story and blow over in a day or so. But because of the recent history in Ottawa, it’s gping to be read into far more than elsewhere. It’s going to have people figure out which guys in that car were the ones that spoke out during the Karlsson-hoffman stuff, what side were guys on, who has said that they’ve moved on and everything is going well and then be caught mocking coaches and admitting they don’t care. If all the other crap hadn’t happened, it wouldn’t be as bad is all I’m saying.

5.) 06 Nov 2018 21:20:32
Yeah it would be a big deal no matter what organization it was.

6.) 06 Nov 2018 22:07:25
Yes jim, it's magnified because of the issues ottawa have had lately. And it's really not a big deal for what the players were saying cause players talk about coaches and vice versa all the time. But getting caught is what makes it bad.



31 Oct 2018 22:27:34
There's been talk of the NYR clearing out all UFA's for the rebuild. I'd like to see the leafs get McQuaid on the back end. He's a guy that plays nasty as the games get bigger. Leafs could probably get him for next to nothing and we won't have to watch Marincin try and play hockey anymore.


1.) 01 Nov 2018 01:41:18
How did NYR get him again? He was from Boston, wasn't he? I was surprised when Boston let him go because that type a d man is great for a playoff battle.
Would be a great fit for Toronto and a playoff battle. Add some grit some of you on here want.
Good post. Good idea.

2.) 01 Nov 2018 01:51:18
I think that would be a decent guy for the Leafs. His foot speed isn't there, but he does have a toughness to his game that I think could benefit the Leafs.

3.) 01 Nov 2018 02:16:16
You could probably get McQuaid for just a pick too. 3rd or 4th? Probably 4th? Not familiar with his whole skill set but know he's a big stay at home defender. Third pairing?

I've read Kevin Hayes name a lot lately. But he carries a $5.18M hit. I think he would be a good fit maybe Winnipeg on the third line as a playoff rental. NYR would have to retain tho.

Zuccarello would be a good pick up for any team. At $4.5M if they retain he could bring them back something decent maybe. Might be a good fit for Edm come deadline if they are in a good spot, which very well could be looking at the pacific right now. Might fit nicely on Drais wing.

I've also read that Winnipeg will more than likely hang on to UFA to be Myers for an "all in" playoff push. The article noted that they may not be able to resign him as they have a lot of talent that will be getting paid this off season and might not be able to fit Myers and he may be odd man out unfortunately.

4.) 01 Nov 2018 02:35:51
I would say the leafs are going to go after Hayes, and what I’m about to say next is dead serious ok, this is not a joke.
I’m friends with someone who knows the leafs photographer. He said that the leafs are downplaying Matthews’s injury. You ready for this leafs Fans?

Mathews is actually going to be out for 4 to 5 MONTHS, not weeks.

I am dead serious about this, you can down play it, or you can just laugh at this post and shake your head, I would probably do the same. But I’m not lying, it’s bad, and the leafs need to lock up Nylander now, which is probably why they are downplaying it (my guess) . Or at least they need another center because we can’t have Lindholm as the third line center, we will barely make the playoffs that way

Again I’m being dead serious, go ahead and judge me but I’m telling the truth, if it’s not then you can rip on me all I want.

5.) 01 Nov 2018 03:10:09
Depends on what Myers wants for money if he takes third pair money then I don't see him leaving.

Also depends on what is happening with Trouba.

6.) 01 Nov 2018 04:26:55
I hope you’re wrong thermo. Either way they still have a Tavares/ Kadri top 2 and all kinds of money for this year. I wouldn’t let it change Nylander negotiations what so ever. A trade for a top 4 dman should still be a possibility. Obviously without Matthews and Nylander it won’t be easy but every team goes through sh*t like this.
Yupp McQuaid was traded for Kampfer and late pick I think. It would be real nice getting a dman like him if they make the playoffs. Could play Boston again and having him against his former team would be nice. I also mentioned Zuccarello in the summer for Edmonton because of his speed to play with MCDavid.

7.) 01 Nov 2018 04:34:09
Does anyone wonder if this injury is as serious as mentioned above. does that maybe change the negotiations with the upcoming Mathews contract.

8.) 01 Nov 2018 12:34:58
I think with him having that injury in the past, and now being out long term because of it, Matthews is going to probably sign either a bridge deal, or a long term deal that is under $12 mill.

9.) 01 Nov 2018 12:35:10
Zucc is now on the wrong side of 30, I would welcome him as a rental, to play with Drai and not offer him a contract after. I think he'll be 32 start of next season so this off season he will be looking for that last decent contract like 4/ 5 years $5M or something and someone else can lay that. I really wanted Grabner for McDavid and Nuge but Rattie had such a great seasons end with that line so they knew they were keeping that together to start the year. Drai is the one who needs a winger. Nuge and McDavid can have anyone.
Namestnikov is another Ranger I wouldn't mind at all.
Kreider as well.

10.) 01 Nov 2018 15:45:55
Always been a fan of McQuaid. I would like this move as long as that isn’t ‘the solution’. To get him as a 6th man with some grit, love it. Still need to get someone to play top 4.

11.) 01 Nov 2018 15:48:56
@themostleaf I wouldn't be shocked if this is true. if surgery is required on the shoulder most times that takes 5 to 6 months to recover from. it was a real hard smack so anything is possible. It would be a shame for him to miss that much time though especially after the start he had.

12.) 01 Nov 2018 16:05:54
A guy I work with said he wouldn't be surprised if it was a few months. He's has shoulder problems from hockey hits and 2 procedures done and was 5/ 6 months to rehab the one time. That's if it's as bad an injury as that. Wait and see I guess.

13.) 01 Nov 2018 16:10:04
McQuaid is definitely not the solution Jim. McQuaid at a small price along with maybe Pesce like some Nylander rumors are suggesting would be a nice start.

14.) 01 Nov 2018 16:57:45
I've had shoulder issues since I was playing football, and I was little skeptical when I heard 4 weeks. Shoulders are brutal to heal. took me about 6 months. and to this day, still have issues 20 years later. can't shoulder press free weights. sometimes it jus gives out., like almost slips? Anyway. I'm sure he will have way better care and rehab ect than I did. just hope for the kids sake it heals fully. and I can go back to not liking him haha.

15.) 01 Nov 2018 21:18:02
Manson would still be my 1st choice. He’s a stay at home dman that can put up points and will fight anyone. I don’t know that Anaheim would be willing to part with him but they are 24th in the league in goals for. With Perry out long term and on the decline, a deal starting with Nylander and Manson sounds great for both sides IMO.

16.) 01 Nov 2018 23:54:13
Especially after he wanted to play out thebyear for his contract. And with the start he had, was on track for a massive pay day. I don’t think this injury all of the sudden gets him less but missing 15, 20, 25 games could really stop him from getting more.



13 Oct 2018 21:55:04
I never believe anything I read from hockey buzz but Nylander for Nurse is interesting. The leafs could use a big, physical dman and Nylander with McDavid would be more dangerous than any of their current options.


1.) 13 Oct 2018 23:02:15
Yeah it's a good base for a deal.

2.) 13 Oct 2018 23:15:08
I would think that would be a decent return to pursue for Nylander, if the Leafs decide to move him. However, I don't think the Oilers could afford Nylander since they are so cap crunched. Plus the Oilers probably can't let go of Nurse with Sekera hurt.

3.) 14 Oct 2018 14:51:46
Some rumour twitter account posted one of Nylander to Nashville for Subban too. And Preds would be retaining 22%. (Not sure where that number comes from) but probably just bs too. That would make PK a 29 year old $7mill Dman, and would be a great deal for leafs. However if Nashville Does that, I know they need offense more than D, but that makes Nylander like a $10 mill winger ( $8mill contract + $2 mill retain to get him) . That’s where his rumor falls apart for me lol.



05 Oct 2018 09:12:37
I didn't realize Baertschi just resigned but whatever.




05 Oct 2018 09:07:42
There's been a few Nylander for Boeser proposals with added parts. I really don't see why Vancouver would consider trading him but adding Nylander to their young group would be ideal. I may be way off here but I was thinking

Nylander for Baertschi, Tanev & a 1st?

The leafs get a decent LW, a shutdown RH defenseman (although injury prone) and a high 1st. Vancouver gets the best player in the deal to add to their young core. Toronto brings in more salary than Nylander will cost but allows them to let Gardiner or Hainsey walk, maybe both. Is this fair, is the 1st too much of a risk for Vancouver?


1.) 05 Oct 2018 10:10:47
I’m going to answer my own question here. The 1st is way too risky for Vancouver.

Nylander for Baertschi, Tanev and a 2nd?

2.) 05 Oct 2018 12:40:32
Imo no. I’m just scared of doing the 1 good player for 3 pieces trade, cause oftentimes, the team trading the good player gets screwed over (Thornton, etc. ) . I hope Ny can sign. If not, i'd be on board for trading him for a defenseman (LD/ RD doesn't matter imo) like Lindell, Manson, etc. and then trading Gardiner for a RHD if we did acquire a LHD.

3.) 05 Oct 2018 17:52:05
Canucks tanev sven lind 3 rd pick.

4.) 05 Oct 2018 21:09:48
I get that Topshelf. A one for one would be ideal if they could pull off a Jones/ Johanssen, but I’d be ok with 2 lesser value players and a pick if they improve defensively.

5.) 06 Oct 2018 00:46:44
I think that's a good trade, the one with the 2nd rounder.

6.) 06 Oct 2018 01:39:32
I’d rather do Nylander straight up for the 1st.

7.) 06 Oct 2018 06:20:24
I would do that too vbb’s. It would save a lot of money and their depth at forward is not a problem. I don’t think Vancouver would do that though.

8.) 06 Oct 2018 12:37:46
Boeser-Petterson-Nylander would be tempting for Vancouver.

9.) 06 Oct 2018 15:51:23
Nylander would fit in nice with almost any team.




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16 Nov 2018 12:06:12
Yes a bridge deal would be too nice. Still no way I’d trade Matthews. The thought of a #1 dman and maybe more in return is interesting but if he can stay healthy I think it would be a mistake.




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16 Nov 2018 06:47:04
Crosby/ Malkin are definitely better Sosa but Tavares/ Matthews are pretty much PPG players. I think I could put up 20 goals playing with either of them, lol. The key I guess to trading Matthews that I forgot to mention would be a legit #1 dman.




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16 Nov 2018 04:17:11
I’d rather keep the center depth even though Matthews injuries are a concern. Pittsburgh has proven for years that you can put almost anyone with a good center and they will produce. Not this year of course, I don’t know what’s going on in Pittsburgh. Kapanen was tearing it up playing with Matthews. Leafs need him back but I think they’d have to at least consider a bridge deal to make sure he can stay healthy.




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15 Nov 2018 23:43:29
I think you forgot to add Nylander+.




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13 Nov 2018 04:09:25
I don’t think Toronto loses that deal.





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I think that was a terrible deal by the lightning. Gudas, a 1st & 3rd for a 30 year old average d man. They could have had Polak for Gudas alone. Polak was the 1st name that I could think of, but there had to have been better options for cheaper. Personally, I hope the leafs keep Polak.




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@steamer do you understand that it doesn't go against Toronto's cap? Big difference. The owners are paying, they owe us one. They'll probably raise ticket prices to get their money back.




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That's Toronto for you. I think they should have waited too




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Not really