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07 Jan 2018 20:19:41
I posted similar proposals a while back and got mixed reviews. With the position the Oilers are in I think the Leafs/Oilers could help each other. I'd really like to see the leafs have some more grit, especially if they make the playoffs. The Oilers could use more speed and talented wingers.

Kapanen, 2nd for Nurse?
Kapanen, Gardiner for Nurse, 3rd?

Are either of these fair? Oiler fans have said there is a lot of depth on LD, maybe they could give up Nurse to bring in Kapanen. In the 2nd trade they replace Nurse with a mobile defenseman and add Kapanen. I know the leafs are looking for a RH defenseman but IMO this will improve their team while waiting for Liljegren to develop.

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1.) 07 Jan 2018 20:24:24
I mean if I had to choose one of the two it would clearly be the second one where Edmonton gets back Gardiner and Kapanen, and i'd personally do that in a heartbeat. Nurse is starting to look like a good player lately he’s one of the few bright spots for the oilers this year but I think oilers could benefit more from the way Gardiner plays which is way more offensive. And oilers have terrible prospect pool and Kapanen would be a nice addition with no RW depth.


2.) 07 Jan 2018 20:51:45
Lol. The Oilers aren't trading Nurse right now. If they were it would be in a package for a better D man coming back. Not a few smaller pieces.


3.) 07 Jan 2018 20:57:08
I would call for Chiarelis head if he made one of those trades.


4.) 07 Jan 2018 21:31:45
I’d also expect a better package but if I had to pick of the two for sure the second one imo.


5.) 07 Jan 2018 21:52:16
Yea Oilers gets fleeced.


6.) 07 Jan 2018 22:27:24
I just think Nurse is an immovable asset for the oilers.


7.) 07 Jan 2018 22:55:39
I’ll take Gardiner 10/ 10 times over Nurse but I’d do the 1st deal in a heartbeat.


8.) 08 Jan 2018 00:17:14
Nurse can easily get a better package


9.) 08 Jan 2018 00:54:59
Sorry yup, but Gardiner is not too bad either. I know points don’t mean everything but take a look at them when you get a chance. Call for Chiarelli’s head is a little dramatic like you usually are. Kapanen could skate circles around half of the forwards on your team right now. By the way, you tube Darnell Nurse fights and see if he ever takes the visor off. He fought Reaves, Shaw, Haley all while the other guy didn’t have a visor, with plenty of time to take it off. He must be a d bag like Kadri. No need to be one yourself cause it’s me posting. I could understand not wanting to move Nurse because he is one of your teams few bright spots, but don’t make it sound like he is a Drew Doughty or something. Craig Button had so many wonderful things to say about the Oilers, I thought maybe some speed up front and on defense would help. You’ve made 3 trade rumours in 5 years so tone it down a notch.


10.) 08 Jan 2018 01:13:17
Why do you just reply to me? What's with your small hard on for me man? 5 out of 6 people commented wouldn't trade Nurse for what you proposed. If Kapanen is so great then keep him, If I'm trading Nurse its in a deal that's upgrading him or for a legit top 6 winger. Not Kapanen.
Lmao. You're hilarious man.
I've never once hinted Nurse is like a Doughty, I'm not that stupid. You whine a lot towards me. You entertain me. These deals are terrible for Nurse, you're coming out ahead and you know it. That's why you posted.


11.) 08 Jan 2018 01:14:13
@McJ you changed your tune quite a bit after yup posted. No need to agree with your fearless leader all the time. You and Ebs are usually pretty solid Oiler fans. Maybe my proposal is off but like you originally said, Gardiner’s style of play could be what the Oilers need and Kapanen could be in most teams top 9.


12.) 08 Jan 2018 01:31:35
I think Gardiner is being undervalued here. Yup acting very dramatic and above all as usual.


13.) 08 Jan 2018 03:24:18
Gotta agree with leafs17 on this.


14.) 08 Jan 2018 03:53:28
I don't agree with leafs17


15.) 08 Jan 2018 04:21:48
You’re way off like usual chirp. Flamers and Key habs disagree, no problem. Pavelec thinks Nurse is an immovable piece which I can understand. McJ would take the deal with Gardiner “in a heart beat. ” (Oiler fan no? ) Nylander would take Gardiner over Nurse straight up. Where’s the 5 of 6 people? Are you looking at disagrees cause you should know how that works. Your comments to people are why you have people calling you out on a daily basis, not just myself. I think I explained why I posted the rumour. Toronto needs grit IMO, Oilers need speed. I also said they could help each other. The 2 players offered are good players, even though they wear blue and white. Maybe Edmonton should sit back and watch the season go by? Did you look up Nurse fights? Always a pleasure!


16.) 08 Jan 2018 04:55:52
It's not a rumor! It's your suggestion. Lol
And it's terrible! Nurse isn't available.


17.) 08 Jan 2018 05:06:05
When I commented 5/ 6 McJ, Keyhabs, Pavalec, Flamers and me said this was bad. You and Nylander said is was believable. Sorry, that's 5/ 7 if you include yourself.
5 out of 7 comments at that point said its bad for Edm.

They are decent players, I never said they weren't.
But the Oilers aren't making Nurse available for them. Chierelli would be run out of town instantly for it.


18.) 08 Jan 2018 05:58:15
Read McJ’s original reply again. You like to pick and choose what to read. You call keyhabs delusional on a regular basis but now he’s credible? No offence to him. Anyways, I thought it would help both teams. It’s not like I offered two grizzled veterans. Gardiner puts up respectable #’s every year and Kapanen has shown he can play. Both are young, smooth skaters. Your comment about keeping Kapanen if he’s so good shows you don’t have a clue. Teams trade from a position of strength. Just curious what you think they should do? Go for another 1st overall? There may only be one player on that team not available when Chiarelli is run out of town.


19.) 08 Jan 2018 12:21:20
The proposition is terrible? Well so are the Oilers this year. Every team, when in a state of freefall, will tend to make trades that do not bode well for themselves,

They clearly aren't winning with this core @yup. I haven't seen anyone say Nurse is an immovable asset. Aren't your top two dman Larsson and Klefbom? Why is Nurse so immovable, especially considering the team needs offensive dmen like Gardiner, and skilled forwards like Kapanen. Come on. Nurse isn't a top dman, and he isn't going to be. he's a top4 dman, and honestly, the 2nd deal is pretty fair.

The Oilers need to shakeup. You can't just keep saying no to every Oilers trade.


20.) 08 Jan 2018 14:53:02
Actually Nurse and Larsson I would say are out 1-2, when considering who is available or not. Nurse is 22 and showing signs this year now of becoming what we hope he will. I would say Klefbom is available tho, but in a package with a equal or better RHD coming back not this stuff proposed by Leafs17. Nurse is considered part of the core. I agree we need a shake up, But it's not going to be Nurse. Lol.

No, no these deals aren't fair and they don't make the Oilers better. They aren't giving away 22 year old nurse who is improving big time this year for those pieces. I would say maybe to Klefbom because I think he could be made available, not nurse, for this.
I wouldn't trade Klefbom for this stuff either tbo. Would be in a deal for a better return.


21.) 08 Jan 2018 19:57:23
That’s a more reasonable explanation yup. If you didn’t come out like it was the worst trade suggestion in NHL history, we’d all have some respect for you. Not that you care about that anyways but I was trying to help both our teams needs. Looking back, I think my first proposal should have been Kapanen and a 1st instead for Nurse. The second proposal I still think is fair and so do others. I guess that’s why you and I are not GM’s.


22.) 09 Jan 2018 15:05:52
Oilers say no, gardiners a plug. if kapanen is so great, keep him.


 

 

02 Dec 2017 09:07:50
Kane to Edmonton for a 1st (lottery protected). Edmonton needs scoring.

Giroux to Montreal for Galchenyuk, Scherbak & Plekanec. Philly can let Plekanec walk and have cap space and a couple young forwards. Montreal must go all in while Price is in his prime.

Iginla signs in Calgary, just cause

Toronto gets a 3-4 RH d man for Kapanen and a 1st. Leafs don't lose Marner or Nylander and wait for Liljegren to develop. Maybe Tanev, Stone, Braun, Ceci, Schenn, McQuaid, Bogasian? I don't know if any of these guys are available but just a thought.

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1.) 02 Dec 2017 11:01:20
I would do Kapanen and a first for Ceci, don't think that Dorion would however. Sadly.


2.) 02 Dec 2017 15:32:13
I don’t think Chucky should be traded.


3.) 02 Dec 2017 17:11:14
what kane? would help if you said what team. if chicago, not even close, if buffalo a bit much.


4.) 02 Dec 2017 18:28:46
Clearly he didn’t mean patty kane but no way I’d give up a 1st for Evander especially since he’s UFA.


5.) 02 Dec 2017 19:06:23
I put Kapanen and a 1st as the trade bait coming from Toronto. All those defense listed have different value and some couldn’t get both from Toronto. Maybe just Kapanen or just the 1st could land one of these guys if their team was out of contention.


6.) 02 Dec 2017 19:15:23
Sorry PKane88, I definitely didn’t mean your buddy.


7.) 03 Dec 2017 10:15:21
If Hanzel and Ladd can get a 1st + as UFA to be at deadline then E. Kane will get more than just a 1st.


8.) 03 Dec 2017 10:15:54
I would give just a 1st for Neal or E. Kane any day of the week.


 

 

24 Nov 2017 05:33:34
The leafs could use a physical d man that will fight like Nurse. I'm not trying to low ball anyone, just wondering if these teams could help each other.

Nurse for Gardiner & Kapanen? Edmonton gets a puck moving defense man having an off year points wise but has been much better offensively. Gardiner is 5 years older. Kapanen could add some scoring depth.

Nurse for JVR & Kapanen? Maybe JVR can be resigned.

Nurse for JVR & Gardiner?

Any of these close?

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1.) 24 Nov 2017 05:46:27
If oilers were offered either of those trades I’d hope Chiarelli would take it. Don’t get me wrong I like nurse and he’s progressed well in his game for the most part and playing well this season, but having a proven dman to replace him and another skilled forward would be a great deal for Edmonton.
But would Toronto be willing to give that up for Nurse?


2.) 24 Nov 2017 14:20:36
I don't think this works for Tor. they are looking to solidify their top 4D and giving one away still leaves a hole in their line up.


3.) 24 Nov 2017 22:14:09
Nurse is an interesting piece but gardiner is a top 4 Dman that Babcock likes. Can’t guarantee that with nurse. I would say no from leafs on both of them. Only reason to move one of the 3 top 4 Dman (Rielly, Gardiner or zaitsev) leafs have is if it’s in a package for a far better D. Otherwise it’s a lateral move, but getting a bit younger like Turkey said. Not worth losing kapanen or JVR for that.


4.) 25 Nov 2017 07:42:45
Thanks for the comment. I liked the Gardiner and Kapanen one the best myself. Kapanen is a good top 9 forward and Gardiner would likely help add some offense from the defense. Nurse being so much younger is why I put Kapanen in there. Who knows, maybe a speedy winger like Kapanen will fit with McDavid instead of Maroon. I’d just like Nurse in the leafs line up to add to their toughness. Other than Martin, the leafs don’t have anyone.


 

 

04 Nov 2017 20:27:59
I still think a deal could be made for Montreal to acquire the #1 French Canadian centre they desperately need. Not that the French part matters but the city loves it.

Giroux & a young defense prospect for Pacioretty & Galchenyuk?

Other pieces would need to be added but Philly has a lot of defenseman coming up and could use some wing depth IMO. Montreal needs a #1 center and young defense. It would have to be one of Philadelphia's defenseman lower on the list for this to be fair. Any ideas?

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05 Feb 2017 16:59:37
I think St.Louis needs to go after Duchene in a big way. Having Duchene & Stastny is a very respectable 1/2. I think it would take Fabbri, 2017 1st & a top young D man, not named Parayko. I'm not sure if other teams would offer more but I think the value is fair. What do you think Colt? Can you make an honest evaluation of the players and maybe an idea of which D man to add to the deal?

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1.) 05 Feb 2017 17:50:14
I'd say Parayko straight up for Dushene. Then they sign Shatty to a 6×6 contract with a NMC.


2.) 05 Feb 2017 18:04:15
To Colorado Avalanche:
- D Kevin Shattenkirk
- F Jori Lehtera

To St-Louis Blues:
- F Matt Duchene
- D François Beauchemin.


3.) 05 Feb 2017 18:12:56
Parayko straight up lol no from Colorado.


4.) 05 Feb 2017 18:46:12
I just read Fabbri is out for the season. There goes that idea.


5.) 06 Feb 2017 03:43:11
Blues are not tradin parayko. With that said we are not going to pay a kings ransom for duchene if we do that then we will only create more holes on the team.


6.) 06 Feb 2017 04:26:53
You have to give to get Colt. I don't suggest Trading Parayko what so ever, but defense is a position of strength at the moment. If trading a top D prospect, a mid 1st and a good forward is what it takes to get a #1 center, I think you do it. Shattenkirk will bring back a nice package to replace some that's lost to bring in Duchene. Or the Blues can be happy with last years run and just sit back and watch the world go by.


7.) 06 Feb 2017 21:13:03
no you don't if your team drafts well. Blues don't need duchene he is way over priced. Blues have some promising talent developing. Shatty is gone colton parayko is our RHD of the future. the blues have another dman in Schmaltz ready to step in plues wallman and DUnn on the left. As for our center issues. We have Tage Thompson and Jordan Kyrou who by the way is having a great season. If that wasnt enough Barbashev has looked very good in his first few games.

i believe in small retools vs selling the farm for talent.

Parayko is not getting trade.


8.) 06 Feb 2017 21:37:18
Are you replying to 10 people at once? I said " I don't suggest trading Parayko. " You've said yourself they need a #1 center and right wingers. You are always right though so there is no having a conversation.


 

 

 

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11 Jan 2018 02:05:58
What is MacKenzie doing saying the 1st round is set for Boston/Toronto? There is half a season left. I could see if there was 20 games to go.

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1.) 11 Jan 2018 03:38:34
Unless Toronto goes into a tailspin (which they are prone to do) . It is set. I don't think Florida can catch them. So Toronto will open the playoffs in Boston.


2.) 11 Jan 2018 03:54:24
With the way the Atlantic is shaping up it's almost obvious the Leafs and Bruins are going to meet. Tampa's running away with the division, Ottawa and Buffalo have been dog rubbish this year, Detroit and Florida are meh, and Habs can't score unless it's against the Canucks.


3.) 11 Jan 2018 04:36:14
Umm. . It's January 10th. Nothing is set. ya I doubt my Habs are in., at this point Kinda want them to finish last overall and have best odds at 1st overall.
Teams can go on horrendous losing skids, unbelievable winning streaks, so until the trade deadline, it's to early to tell who is going to finish where.


4.) 11 Jan 2018 06:25:23
Thank you Sosa. Way too early when the leafs are in the conversation. I know they’re a different team now but I’ve seen way too many late season collapses. Any team but Buffalo can catch Toronto or Boston.


5.) 11 Jan 2018 16:16:23
Leafs17, think you can add my Habs to that list as well. Lol.
I think your Leafs are the real deal, as long as the young kids can keep there composure, they will be fine. my sleeper in the Atlantic is Florida., That's the team that could push Bos/ Leafs.


 

 

03 Jan 2018 19:48:22
No comments on Maroons hit yap? I'm sure if that had been Kadri we'd be hearing about it.

Leafs17

1.) 03 Jan 2018 21:08:20
I’m not comparing Maroon to Kadri at all. Kadri is often looking for a cheap hit and rarely fights back. Just curious as to how you fail to mention when an Oiler takes a run at an unsuspecting player?


2.) 03 Jan 2018 21:44:18
Hey buddy. How are your feelings today? You seem to want some attention. I'll give in.


3.) 03 Jan 2018 21:58:04
Just your opinion on the hit would do?


4.) 04 Jan 2018 05:21:21
Hey yup.

Also, from the play Drew Doughty made the wrong move. Instead of trying to put his shoulder down and absorb the hit (correct move) he moved everything out of the way except his head.


 

 

15 Dec 2017 11:16:51
Does anybody know if Vegas would have the assets to acquire Karlsson? I've been pulling for them since watching their home opener after the tragedy when all the first responders were brought out on the ice. I thought they'd be a decent team with all the guys having something to prove after being unprotected. I'm sure nobody expected them to be this good.

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1.) 15 Dec 2017 14:22:44
I don't think they do. although they are having an exceptional inaugural season, remember they have had only 1 entry draft.
I think Vegas has a plan, and although they have been really good, I can't see them going away from that.


2.) 15 Dec 2017 20:28:19
Thanks. I figured they really only had picks and it would require too many to get him. I’m not sure if Ottawa wants to rebuild or on the fly?


 

 

10 Dec 2017 23:36:01
Took a detour home from my sons hockey tournament to see the hockey hall of fame. Managed to get tickets to the game. Go Leafs!

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1.) 11 Dec 2017 01:51:04
Oh my goodness. That's like the coolest thing ever. Thanks for letting us know bro.
Hopefully Reilly doesn't make another great open ice hit on a teammate. It really is too bad Mathews is so injury prone so early in his career. But you're undefeated without him! Maybe it is time to trade him after all.
I say this in the second intermission. Good game to be at. Your goalie is playing well. Should be a god third period. Good luck my friend.


2.) 11 Dec 2017 02:33:31
Get yourself a McElhinney jersey after that game. Wow.
39-23 in shots for the Oilers. 6 posts.
Great game by the Leafs goalie! Well done.


3.) 12 Dec 2017 03:41:12
That would be really cool but too bad you're a leafs fan. i'd hate being let down since 76


4.) 12 Dec 2017 04:40:33
It’s 67 actually, And let’s not pretend the flames have had a lot to cheer about either lol one cup and an ownership that wants to move the team to Houston. that’s a problem Toronto will never have.


5.) 12 Dec 2017 07:52:26
If you find a girl that will put up with your sarcasm and have kids one day, you’ll learn that things like that are pretty cool. I’ve been around this site for a while yup, I believe you’ve updated us on a few games you were at over the years. You also met every NHLer and partied with them, that’s pretty cool too. I won’t be too hard on you, I understand you’re salty. McD stopped every chance he had by a back up goalie, the leafs winning every time they meet. Maybe you’ll find a goal scorer with that top 5 pick. Cheers!


6.) 12 Dec 2017 14:27:20
Not going to lie, I thought you were a millennial with how you were offended and hurt feelings about everything, up until last week when you said you were married with kids.
Kinda shocked me
Where was I salty here? I praised your goalie for the game he played and said well done. No sarcasm there. You're always salty when replying to me. You need to get over it my friend.
That was impressive but frustrating to watch! 😂 Lol. My team is extremely frustrating to watch Right now and CLB and NSH next three days. 😩😩.


7.) 13 Dec 2017 08:03:54
Your first 3 sentences you were just being a person and then you were ripping the leafs. I apologize if I don’t follow your internet etiquette and treat everyone like they’re an idiot. I treat everyone with respect, even if I don’t know them. Yes I call people out (you and chirpy) for disrespecting people.

I also have a son your age that lives out near Edmonton and I’m doing my best to raise all 3 of them to be nice people, my bad. I’m not offended what so ever yup, I just don’t get it. Take a look at the best posters on this site. Unbiased Jim, always respectful and knowledgeable. Top shelf and Sosa as well. There’s no reason we can’t talk hockey and be respectful.


8.) 13 Dec 2017 18:23:35
I honestly can't even keep track of your feelings anymore. Can't tippy toe around you. When I praise your goalie and say good game, and bash my own team a little, that's one of the most respectful things ever. you're feelings are hurt somehow and then whine about talking with respect. I just don't get it. lol.

I've been super respectful on here to others lately, maybe not to you but you even admit you don't return the favor to me. So why should I be respectful to you when you straight up admit I'm the only one you bash on this site.
I can take the bashing, but don't bash me then whine about me bashing someone else once in a while. I'll continue to say that. It's crazy.


9.) 13 Dec 2017 20:21:50
chirp chirp! Count the lol’s you use over the course of a day. You must crack yourself up. It’s your own comments you lol too as well. Lol, lol, lol.


10.) 13 Dec 2017 21:13:37
No you and your tender feelings make me laugh a lot.
You resorted to trying to make fun of me using a word too many times? I still seriously think your some young millennial.


11.) 14 Dec 2017 00:23:49
I used one Lol in that last comment. What in the actual F are you talking about now? 😳.


12.) 14 Dec 2017 01:11:17
You have some serious issues if you are now whining about me using a certain word too many times. That's so messed up man. You need some help. Take a vacation.


 

 

30 Nov 2017 11:45:30
The columnist Ryan Lambert had all kinds of good things to say about the oilers in the article, "what we learned." Is this guy a hater or is he just pointing out the obvious?

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18 Jan 2018 13:21:03
Please stop trading away Liljegren before we see how good he is. The leafs are not winning the cup this year.

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18 Jan 2018 12:21:22
If you ask Ed nicely, I’m sure he’ll tell you that I’m not Nylander. It’s not Mathews fault the media is the way it is. No need to get your panties in a bunch at all leaf fans.

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18 Jan 2018 07:13:21
Why is Mathews overrated Flamer? I understand Nylander is extreme with the Marner and Nylander talk, but c’mon. You’ve already told everyone you only watch Alberta teams, so your knowledge of players is very limited. No one person is going to bring in a cup, not even Johnny hockey! Look at the Oilers with McDavid. The leafs are a FEW key pieces away from winning a cup. How could Calgary win a cup anyways when the officiating is out to get them? That was the funniest thing I’ve ever heard someone say. Try and watch some other teams play before judging players, you sound like a dotard!

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08 Jan 2018 20:54:37
Bogasian is hurt as often as he plays.

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08 Jan 2018 19:57:23
That’s a more reasonable explanation yup. If you didn’t come out like it was the worst trade suggestion in NHL history, we’d all have some respect for you. Not that you care about that anyways but I was trying to help both our teams needs. Looking back, I think my first proposal should have been Kapanen and a 1st instead for Nurse. The second proposal I still think is fair and so do others. I guess that’s why you and I are not GM’s.

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I think that was a terrible deal by the lightning. Gudas, a 1st & 3rd for a 30 year old average d man. They could have had Polak for Gudas alone. Polak was the 1st name that I could think of, but there had to have been better options for cheaper. Personally, I hope the leafs keep Polak.

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Thanks

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@steamer do you understand that it doesn't go against Toronto's cap? Big difference. The owners are paying, they owe us one. They'll probably raise ticket prices to get their money back.

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That's Toronto for you. I think they should have waited too

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Not really

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