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23 Feb 2019 04:48:30
Kadri out with a concussion? Gardiner not at practice for a maintenance day? I say fake news, lol. I'm going to go with a different idea

Kadri/Gardiner for Ferland/Pesce.

Toronto has been linked to both of these players. Ferland brings in the physical presence and Pesce is a good RD on a reasonable contract. It's a small sample but it looks like Nylander is capable of playing center at the NHL level, if necessary.
Carolina could use center depth. Staal is not all that anymore and he's injured. Gardiner would be an offensive boost from the point.
It has been said that it has to be a money in, money out deal for the leafs. Ferland has a smaller cap hit than Gardiner and they're both UFA's. Kadri/Pesce would be the main pieces for both teams, both on similar contracts for years to come.


1.) 23 Feb 2019 05:28:07
Tavares/ Marner/ Hyman
Matthews/ Kapanen/ Johnsson
Nylander/ Ferland/ Marleau
Gauthier/ Brown/ Lindholm
Pesce/ Reilly
Zaitsev/ Muzzin
Hainsey/ Dermott.

2.) 23 Feb 2019 16:30:14
The only way I’d make that trade from a leafs POV is if they took Zaitsev. I believe Gardiner holds more value then Ferland And Kadri has more value then pesce also that leaves a huge hole at the 3rd line C position.

3.) 23 Feb 2019 16:46:01
How are we in a position where we are arguing both that Gardiner is a detriment to a team AND that he has more value than the top 2 way forward currently on the market?

4.) 23 Feb 2019 19:19:42
Gardiner is Toronto’s 2nd/ 3rd best dman as a dman he is out producing Ferland. 51 points as a deffensman is Elite.

5.) 23 Feb 2019 21:51:55
Ferland is not a C.

6.) 23 Feb 2019 21:49:54
Vbb’s he got 52 points once and is on pace for 40. Not too bad at all but Gardiner is not elite.

7.) 23 Feb 2019 22:13:52
If Nylander plays 3C vbb’s, the leafs still look pretty good.

8.) 23 Feb 2019 22:30:29
I'd rather keep Kadri if I was a Leafs fan.

9.) 23 Feb 2019 23:19:44
If you’re talking to me triplets, I put the Center first. Marner and Kapanen are not center either but Tavares and Matthews are.

10.) 24 Feb 2019 20:38:31
Just saw the third line lol, sorry. Curious: Why would you put the C first? Never seen that.

11.) 25 Feb 2019 05:06:23
I don’t know. It’s the centers line, so I put him first. When you’re talking about a line you would say Matthews line.



24 Jan 2019 05:50:17
Anaheim is 30th in the league in scoring and the injuries continue. The leafs are in need of a RH, stay home defenseman.

Kapanen for Manson

Anaheim gets a 22 year old winger with speed & skill. This also gives Anaheim more money this season to add at the deadline.
Toronto gets a 27 year old, physical RH defenseman. He is on a reasonable contract for the next 4 years as well.
I think this is a fair trade one for one. RH defenseman are at a premium but the age difference evens that out. Maybe a small tweak is necessary.


1.) 24 Jan 2019 11:09:12
Age difference does not even that out lol. Kapanen can be included in a package to get Manson but not straight up, comon. he's a 22 year old winger who's having a good season playing with some of the best young talents and veterans in the game. His value is similar to Arturi Lekonen. Add Johnson to the trade and a second rounder and I think its closer.

2.) 24 Jan 2019 12:26:27
Arturi Leckonen has nothing on Kappy.

3.) 24 Jan 2019 13:56:52
I don’t think the leafs add that much boom boom. Yes Kapanen is playing with talent, for the first time in his career. Guess what, every team has talent. I think Kapanen would do just fine with Getzlaf and Rakell too, or anywhere else for that matter. Manson is 5 years older, that’s a pretty big difference.

4.) 24 Jan 2019 15:50:29
I think it would be a fair trade. This is the kind of defenseman the leafs should expect in a Kapanen deal.

And to the “Arturi Lehkonen has nothing on Kappy”. sure he does, he has worse linemates. I’m not saying I don’t like Kapanen; but him and Lehkonen are similar in they way they don’t drive their lines, but can produce when put in a good situation.

5.) 24 Jan 2019 15:53:15
If Manson is traded for anything under a significant overpayment and the Leafs aren't the one to get him, that's a fail by Dubas. Big defensive RHD on a solid contract in his prime. If it costs Kapanen and Johnson or whatever they should do that deal without hesitation.

6.) 24 Jan 2019 16:25:41
Kapanen definitely gets the water brewing for Anaheim but they're needs to be good little pieces added to get a big RHD in his prime.

7.) 24 Jan 2019 17:15:13
Kappanen has Elite speed and can play in any situation he reminds me of Chris Kriender who I believe is a very underrated player in his own right.

8.) 24 Jan 2019 19:29:32
@vbbbb and like kreider he is really streaky and inconsistent. Lehkonen can also play in any situation and you may not admit it but he is better defensively then kapanen. So overall slight edge on offence for kap edge on defence for lehkonen overall they are pretty even at this point.



10 Jan 2019 04:26:59
Just a couple ideas to try and help both teams.

Toronto trades Brown to Edmonton for Kassian and a 2nd? They have similar cap hits, I added the pick from Edmonton because Brown is better and younger.
Toronto gets tougher, Edmonton gets a little deeper.


Toronto trades Kapanen to Edmonton for Kassian and Bear? Toronto gets tougher and another RD in their system. Edmonton gets a top 6 forward that could be real good with McDavid. I'm thinking Edmonton might have to add to this but I know Oiler fans really like Bear.

Are either of these fair value? I'd rather a Nylander/Nurse swap but I don't think that would ever happen.


1.) 10 Jan 2019 05:32:11
I personally wouldn’t include a 2nd to get brown, it would be a 3-4th round because like you said Toronto needs some grit and I don’t see brown worth that much.

2.) 10 Jan 2019 05:32:33
And Kassian and bear for Kapanen go right ahead.

3.) 10 Jan 2019 11:36:32
I wouldn't do the Kapanen deal to be honest. Kassian honestly has very low value, wouldn't trade away a guy on pace for 20/ 50 for him and Bear, even if Bear is highly regarded, aince he hasn't played much in the NHL. First trade i'm on board with, although, i don't think wed get a second.

4.) 10 Jan 2019 16:38:12
Thanks guys. I really don’t want to lose Kapanen and I don’t know a lot about Bear. I would like Kassian on Toronto though.

5.) 10 Jan 2019 20:52:55
Bear is former whl dman of the year and is a pp qb with an absolute cannon, shorter dman but with experience may be a competent offensive 3rd pairing dman.

6.) 11 Jan 2019 00:06:03
Thanks notdelusional. The leafs seem to like the little guys.

7.) 11 Jan 2019 04:27:48
Kapanen is a top six player. Looks like a perennial 20+ goal scorer. He is worth more than a depth forward and depth prospect. Kassian for Brown makes more sense.



30 Dec 2018 00:29:13
Seguin for Kotkaniemi, Alzner and a 1st?
I might be way off here but Montreal should go after Seguin while Weber & Price are still in their prime.
Montreal gets a #1 center and gives them a real good 1/2 down the middle. They also dump Alzner's contract.
Dallas gets a solid young center, 7 years younger than Seguin. They will also save $ once Seguin's new contract kicks in next year.


1.) 30 Dec 2018 01:22:15
No. not going to trade KK. I understand your logic behind the deal, the more I see of KK, the more I like.

2.) 30 Dec 2018 02:23:10
Price has been playing like trash if anything Dallas should go after Weber imo they have a better team just need better secondary scoring. They’re a good team that can’t put it together much like Saint Louis And Florida.

3.) 07 Jan 2019 16:43:49
No to Seguin. Should have stayed in Boston with Thorton.

4.) 07 Jan 2019 16:45:38
Why in would Habs want to deal with Dallas. They are going nowhere still dreaming of the Hull days twenty years later.



18 Nov 2018 23:50:42
Nylander for Bennett, Stone & 1st?
Calgary adds a top 6 forward and I don't think they have a need for Stone or his contract. Toronto gets some much needed grit who is also the same age as Nylander, a decent RD and a mid to late 1st probably. Calgary definitely gets the best player in the deal and rid themselves of Stone's contract but I think it also helps the leafs salary wise. Stone could be ok for a couple years until Liljegren or Sandin are ready. I know there are a lot of different views about Bennett on this site but I like the way he plays and I think he still has more potential.

Leafs also pick up Luke Schenn just because I love the guy and I don't want to see Marincin ever again.





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23 May 2019 07:32:32
Considering Trouba is a Michigan boy, does anyone think Stevie Y puts his stamp on the team with a big trade for Trouba?


1.) 23 May 2019 12:33:52
I wouldn't be suprised if he tries to get him. Not sure who would go the other way., I don't believe Jets can have a lot of salary coming back? With Laine and Conner needing contracts.
What do you think Jets will need in return?

2.) 23 May 2019 20:57:22
They need a 2C and LHD.

Detroit: Athanasiou And 2nd rd 2019

Jets: Trouba

Anathansiu becomes 2c.

3.) 23 May 2019 23:28:08
Detroit doesn't have the players that the Jets would want.

4.) 24 May 2019 03:47:32
It seems like no team has the players the jets would want.

5.) 24 May 2019 17:36:22
Jets sure don't want Ron Hainsey!

6.) 24 May 2019 19:51:23
Good point Noel, out of left field.

7.) 24 May 2019 21:11:36
Don't mock Hainsey as he is a generational player now that he plays in Toronto.

8.) 24 May 2019 22:03:57
How did Ron Hainsey end up in this post?

9.) 24 May 2019 22:12:27
A jets fan thought they’d throw Hainsey in there Sosa. Islandjet really likes Hainsey too. Maybe the great Trouba for Hainsey and Gauthier? Gauthier could slide in at 2c in Winnipeg.

10.) 25 May 2019 12:11:52
Maybe the 6th overall and Athanasiou for Trouba plus? Winnipeg is in a win now so they’d want a roster player back, not just a pick. AA can play center, maybe Winnipeg adds a prospect?

11.) 25 May 2019 12:19:54
Chevy will not do an Oilers and make a trade like Hall for Larssen. I believe the Jets want a young #1 center or a solid #2 center with a #1 pick at the draft. The Wings don't have much to offer the Jets that make them better unless Yzerman wants to give up players he shouldn't.

12.) 25 May 2019 20:16:35
It could possibly be AA plus one of the Wings defensive prospects and a pick. Depending on which guys are involved.

It may need to be someone other than AA though as it doesn't look like he can play center.



24 Apr 2019 21:28:39
4 Canadian teams don't make the playoffs and not much is said. Calgary and Winnipeg both had home ice advantage and get eliminated in 5 & 6 games, still not much is said. The leafs who did not have home ice advantage get eliminated in 7 games and the gloves are off. Myself and a few other leaf fans on here never said the leafs were going anywhere. You kids must hang on to that Toronto media stuff and let it eat away at you. I'm sure there will be no complaints about the media for a while now that they will point fingers at everyone involved. I apologize to the kids in Winnipeg that have nothing to do but curl up to a bottle of whiskey and pray for it to stop snowing and for the leafs to lose. I will also hold in my prayers that a very angry poster will stop listening to the media. Last but not least, a tired old man that knows absolutely everything, thinks Price is garbage but Danault is gold.


1.) 24 Apr 2019 21:48:16
Oh my god. 😂🙄🤦🏼‍♂️
Drop the act, dude.
I can’t believe you are actually trying to play victim here. It takes a true leafs fan to have that sort of egotistical audacity.
Leafs are gone, who cares? I’m glad, but seriously, who cares?

2.) 24 Apr 2019 22:06:24
I guess some of us just get tired of hearing from you and the other Leaf homers how every Leaf player is elite and every Leaf player is worth more than all other players in the league combined.

Maybe if you guys were a little more realistic and not so arrogant about a Leaf team on par with the Florida Panthers. Maybe that would help?

3.) 24 Apr 2019 22:42:29
Daneult isn't gold but he's better then Kadri. And price was garbage for 2 years. i may or may not know everything lol but I do know my own team.

4.) 25 Apr 2019 00:33:52
Kadri had more goals last season ( 32 ) all of danaults combined aside from 2016-2017 ( 13 goals- career high ) season. Danault has scored 37 goals in 268 games. Goals win hockey games.

5.) 25 Apr 2019 02:06:21
Actually defence wins hockey games and daneult is much better at that. Plus setting up goals is important too. And if daneult was given the power play time Kadri gets he'd have a few more goals as well. Daneult is montreals top penalty killer while Kadri is not considered responsible enough to even be put on the ice short handed. Kadri is a dirty scumbag that someone is going to pop like a zit soon and daneult plays a clean game and don't put his team in penalty trouble in every important game he plays. But you guys can keep him if he's so great and ill gladly keep daneult.

6.) 25 Apr 2019 02:25:15
Leafs are a good team but not as good as how hyped they are. No defence & a horrible bottom 6.

7.) 25 Apr 2019 03:44:26
God have mercy, one things for certain, Edmonton, Montreal and Winnipeg fans can really pile on the hate for the Leafs.

Whats true?
The Leafs played a piss poor god awful game seven.
The leafs wasted away game four and six on home ice when they couldve put boston away.
Mike babcock made extremely stupid decisions which cost the team greatly in gm7.
Nazem kadri was selfish and chose to use his stick as a weapon resulting in a hefty suspension.

Yes. Who’s denying it? No one. Stop acting like we are. I’ll own up to it. Sure as hell. But let's get to the other stuff:

Auston Matthews had 5 goals in 7 games after 73in62. that's elite production. that's better than anything Laine did, and he peformed much bettter than Schiefele in the playoffs.
Tavares-Marner held the fort against the Bergeron line. Marchand had 9 pts mainly on the PK. however, both tavares and marner did not put up stellar points (JT had 6 points in 7, but oh well), and i will acknowledge that. However, mthey were playing head to head against Patrice Bergeron, who everyone will quickly acknowledge as the undisputed selke winner. For what they did, they did their part. And in the reg season, 94 points and 47 goals is elite.
Nylander was brutal. End of story there. there's always next year for him (and Nikolaj Ehlers)
Johnsson and Kappy played like second line scoring threats. Not elite, but they’re the depth that certainly helps. Couldve been better in the playoffs yes, but they were good imo.
Zaitsev, for all the heat he's taken as being dead weight on skates, played extremely well with Muzzin and played Bergerons line really well. Muzzin himself was excellent.
Rielly was elite, throughout the series, throughout the regular season. Easily could argue that, apart from maybe Brandon Carlo, he was the best dman in the series.
And Fred was elite, except for an absolute fart in game seven.

So please. Don’t come at me at least with ‘laffs’ or ‘67’ or ‘danault>kadri’ or whatnot. We all have our biases, and clearly a lot of you don't like the leafs. But please, dispute what I've said, just don't make it into a childish taunting game which results in ‘haha florida panthers haha’, when, i mean, you won last year, but you lost in 5 to Vegas. Don’t be tootin your horn so soon bud. Yall were out before us this year.

8.) 25 Apr 2019 05:35:04
See Topshelf, you’re trying to compare the Leafs to the Jets again and that simply isn’t fair or accurate. Yes, the Jets and Leafs both got knocked out in the first round this year. However, the Jets actually won two series last year and played in the WCF. So, the Jets at least have two playoff series wins in the salary cap era while the Leafs have zero.

That’s why a more accurate team comparison for the Leafs is the Panthers. They are the only two teams without a playoff series win in the salary cap era.

So, don’t be getting all up and arrogant about how elite the Leafs are, when the Leafs have done exactly nothing to warrant it.

9.) 25 Apr 2019 05:38:07
I guess it sucks to have the cancel the parade again hey.

10.) 25 Apr 2019 07:46:21
Top shelf provides stats, Joe provides the past. 2 series wins, that is good. However, what is fair and accurate is the leafs had more points than the jets, and a better goal differential. Andersen’s GAA and save % was better. The leafs had 7 guys with 20+ goals. 5 guys with 70+ points. Are those accurate enough? Both teams were terrible for half the year. I can’t help but feel you and Jet got beat up a lot on the school yard. My daddy can beat up your daddy, lol.

11.) 25 Apr 2019 11:06:44
4 guys with 70+ pts, my apologies.

12.) 25 Apr 2019 13:07:17
Leafs won the most playoff games of any Canadian team, so Leafs can have the title as best in Canada for what its worth. regardless, not one team made it past the first round. so which really cares about bragging rights this year.

13.) 25 Apr 2019 16:23:10
Marner>>>>>>>>>Laine And his 50 points


Kadri>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Danault. Advanced statistics show Kadri is the better player defensively.

14.) 25 Apr 2019 18:55:06
Vbb this started yesterday about how leafs fans are super biased and your just continuing to prove that point lol.

15.) 25 Apr 2019 20:32:07
I think vbb forgot a few >. There is no chance any player in the NHL is that close to any Leaf player. Let alone Jet players being that close. I mean according to vbb Zaitsev >>> McDavid. So, there is no chance a Jet player can be that close.

Try to get those > more accurate next time vbb.

16.) 25 Apr 2019 21:12:48
Well let’s compare Pts/ 82GP

Mathews 88Pts per 82GP + 45goals vs Schifele 84Pts in 88GP

On top of this Schifele plays on a top line with Kyle Connor and Blake Wheeler who are both better then Kap And Johnsson. Schifele also Averages over 2min more per game. Mathews also had a scoring slump after coming back from injury earlier before his injury he was set to out produce McDavid. Also Mathews is like 5 years younger.

Marner vs Laine

Marner put up 95 points this season Laine but up 50. Obviously Laine is a very good player and I’m a big fan but right now after that season you can compare the two.

Tavares vs Wheeler

Center is a more valuable position and Tavares scored 48 goals. Wheeler is great but isn’t in the same class as Tavares.

Trouba vs Rielly

Do I really have to explain?

Andersen vs Hellybuck and Nylander vs Ehlers


The last post was an exaggeration but the leafs definitely have better forwards.

17.) 25 Apr 2019 21:15:28
Haha this is great. I'm grabbing the popcorn.

Jets get eliminated and all six of their fans grasp the only the life rope they can reach -- ripping on the Leafs. I've never understood how people let another team occupy so much space in their heads. Is that from all the forced media exposure maybe? (don't get a ton of NHL coverage in general in my neck of the woods but if I was force fed it all the time maybe I would be just as pathetic) .

In the meantime I'm going to keep on focusing on what's important. MY HARTFORD WHALERS! (I'm semi kidding -- I stopped following the team after they moved away so I'm only sorta kinda jumping on the Canes bandwagon right now) . Enjoy the tourney fellas it's going to be hot and hockey-less in no time.

18.) 25 Apr 2019 22:45:13
I'm just going to end my participation in this . if leaf fans want to think they have the best players in the world just go ahead. I'm not arguing all off season this year about it like I did with Jim and a few others last year. Lol same result this year with the addition of Tavares which last summer was suppose to make them a contender and virtually unstoppable but so be it I guess. Congrats on being only slightly worse then last year.

19.) 26 Apr 2019 00:29:27
joe with more jibberish, no facts. Sosa is right about no Canadian team getting out of the 1st round, so who really cares. It’s also nice to hear from a neutral fan in unsportsmanlike.

20.) 26 Apr 2019 04:09:12
But habby I like arguing with you, lol. I think you know I don’t think the leafs have the best players in the world. I bash them quite often. I knew they weren’t built for the playoffs and we discussed that. However they got my hopes up once again. Until a Canadian team actually does something, 90% of the people on this site should tone it down a notch.

21.) 26 Apr 2019 06:48:35
I don't mind arguing either lol. But this is going down the same path as last year and I'm just not interested enough to bother with it this year lol. If a different topic comes up I might get back in the arguing mood.

22.) 26 Apr 2019 07:25:14
Mcdavid > Marner
Draisaitl > Matthews
Gaudreau > Tavares
Giordano > Rielly
Tkachuk > Nylander
Lindholm > Kadri

Stats don't lie

23.) 26 Apr 2019 08:48:15
Sounds good. I’m sure I’ll think of something to piss you off, lol. It can be a long off season when everyone only wants to bitch.

24.) 26 Apr 2019 11:06:27
Lol you’re right Seanmoneyhands if you combine the Flames and the oilers they have a better team then the Leafs. But when’s the last time Guadreau scored 48 goals and Drais is not better then Mathews. The rest I agree with tho.



07 Apr 2019 02:53:31
That f'n American with a hat trick in his first game, good for him. Just wondering Sosa, are you going to hate this kid too or is he ok?


1.) 07 Apr 2019 05:47:36
Lol. one game doesn't make a career. but it was impressive. If, he stays a humble good kid. like Brock Boeser, then I'll like him.

2.) 07 Apr 2019 06:32:31
I’m sure you will like him. You didn’t like Matthews before the ear to the crowd so I’m guessing it has something to do with the team they play for. The habs have a good future.

3.) 07 Apr 2019 07:16:17
Actually, I didn't mind Mathews until this season. I always thought he was overhyped. I just seen a cockiness in his game this year. well when he was on fire.
I'm interested to know what ya think Marner should get on his contract.? I think he is the better player. Do you think Dubas overpayed Mathews. don't get me wrong. he's a good player., but I think he is the 4th best player on Leafs. I'd take Marner, Tavares, Reilly over him.

4.) 07 Apr 2019 13:29:20
We have already gone over this. The fact poehling is from Minnesota which essentially a part of Canada makes him ok lol. No but seriously if conservative Claude had played him more the 10 mins tonight like the 17 plus minutes Matthews played in his debut we might have saw a new record holder.

5.) 07 Apr 2019 14:29:52
Marner will get something like Eichel IMO but I’d take Eichel over Marner anyday and I love Marner.

6.) 07 Apr 2019 15:55:23
I don’t know Sosa. Marner brings it every shift where as Matthews seems to be less engaged sometimes.

7.) 07 Apr 2019 16:23:15
That's what I mean Leafs17. seems like Mathews has 2 to 3 games in a row games where he looks like one of best 3 or 4 players in the league, then takes 5 or 6 off.
I just feel Dubas made a mistake paying him what he did. Marner has a strong case to get just as much if not more.

8.) 07 Apr 2019 19:44:33
I guess we’ll see. Considering what it cost to get Tavares in which other teams were willing to pay, I don’t think Matthews was going to take less. If they win a cup with this core, I don’t care if they don’t for another 50 years, lol.

9.) 07 Apr 2019 23:10:26
Ya. winning a cup nowadays is so hard. I feel the same with Habs. jus want one for Price!? But, I think that is a far off dream with current roster., there is some good young talent on the way, however, by time they are all in prime, Price will be on downswing I beleive.



28 Feb 2019 04:23:09
Gardiner & Dermott out, I guess we haven't seen the end of Marincin like I was hoping, lol. The leafs are going to get burned spotting teams a goal or two and not showing up until the 2nd period. Unfortunately I missed this game but they were down 1-0 and getting out shot 13-2 when I checked in the first. This has been a pattern as of late and the top teams in the league will finish the job once ahead by a couple.


1.) 28 Feb 2019 05:10:03
You think sandin lillegren or Rosen will get a shot?

2.) 28 Feb 2019 08:50:38
I doubt Sandin or Liljegren but that would be nice to see. Rosen or maybe even Borgman? I don’t even know if Borgman is still around but he likes to throw the body at least. I think Babcock likes Marincin for some reason I can’t figure out.

3.) 28 Feb 2019 11:42:44
NAh, problem is, both Rosen and Borgman are inmured atm. Their first choice was probably Rosen tho, but obv he's unavailable, and I don’t think Dubas is willing to bring up the kids (Lily and Sandin) so early.



22 Feb 2019 03:47:24
E.Staal has to go back to Carolina for the playoff push.


1.) 22 Feb 2019 06:00:12
That's possible and interesting.




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25 May 2019 18:30:37
Not even close. Miller has way more value.




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23 May 2019 22:15:08
Trouba has quickly become the best defenseman to ever play. It’s too bad he doesn’t want to play for Winnipeg. Considering he also has had a concussion along with other injuries, wants out and wants big $, I’d say you take the best offer you get and show him the door. If Winnipeg loses Trouba and Myers, the d core will be just as solid as their center depth.
Just curious Zamboni, how is it you text like a scholar when you first came to this site, now you text like English is your 4th language? Did you run into a wall named Jamie Benn just like the Trouba did, yes?




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23 May 2019 22:00:57
Don’t forget philly doesn’t make the trade because Trouba wants big $, Ehlers is a question mark and Perrault is a cap dump.




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22 May 2019 02:41:31
I’m sorry biasjoe, do you not see how my comment about Trouba is directly related with your gf’s comment on Kadri?




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22 May 2019 00:22:05
Fans of every base keep calling the jets girls out as they try to downgrade every leaf player. Bahaha!





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I think that was a terrible deal by the lightning. Gudas, a 1st & 3rd for a 30 year old average d man. They could have had Polak for Gudas alone. Polak was the 1st name that I could think of, but there had to have been better options for cheaper. Personally, I hope the leafs keep Polak.




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@steamer do you understand that it doesn't go against Toronto's cap? Big difference. The owners are paying, they owe us one. They'll probably raise ticket prices to get their money back.




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That's Toronto for you. I think they should have waited too




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Not really