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02 Dec 2019 15:33:38
Everyone is talking about hall to oilers let's get real it won't happen

If kreider doesn't resign with rangers

Rangers: Kreider

Oilers: 2nd round pick + prospect like Lagesson (2nd turn to 1st if oilers make if past 2nd round)


Or Oilers should go after toffoli

Oilers: Pulju , 2nd round + Gagner

Kings: Toffoli

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1.) 02 Dec 2019 17:53:02
Pulu window closed, so no more Pulu rumors till end of the season.

Hall to Oilers, yes a dream with the cap situation. Hall to the Habs has way more merit.

With the draft supposed to be a better one this year, teams probably want to keep their 1st round picks.

Don't think Tofoli is a bad target, but don't see Gagner on an expiring contract as something LA would want.


2.) 02 Dec 2019 18:52:04
Puljujarvi could definitely be added in a trade this season. Hall to Montreal doesn’t make much sense to me. I’m surprised it gets talked about as much as it does. And Gagner in the trade is for cap reasons obviously LA wouldn’t have much need for him.


3.) 02 Dec 2019 19:29:41
Hanger is not an nhl player anymore. He is an AHL player who gets called up occasionally to fill in. Even Oiler’s know he is finished. He might get lucky and get a minimum paying one year contract next year, but for most part he is finished in the nhl.


4.) 02 Dec 2019 21:33:51
I’m guessing your Gagner comment is coming from someone that doesn’t watch him play. He has skill and grit/ work ethic. I think he’s an NHL player and if he can get good on the PK he’d be able to play for a few more seasons. I think he makes the team better but I could see with his age and the young players coming up him not getting resigned.


5.) 02 Dec 2019 22:08:26
He’s been in the AHL every year for the last five or six years including this one has he not?


6.) 02 Dec 2019 23:15:06
Gagner is terrible. Especially for the money he makes and when they play him in the top 9. He should be a 13th forward for $900K at most. Good attitude extra forward to travel with the team and be a healthy scratch 55/ 82 games if the year. That’s it. He doesn’t make any team “better” with that price tag.


7.) 03 Dec 2019 02:05:50
He’s only really spent one half season in the AHL but yeah due to his age and role he’s been on the outside looking in for the past few seasons. He’s also two seasons removed from 50 points. I do agree with him being overpaid obviously but that’s not what we’re talking about. He’s the guy they have filling in on the 2nd line while Nuge is out. He has the skill to play with good players.


8.) 03 Dec 2019 02:07:29
I would compare his situation to Tyler Ennis. Hopefully he can grind out a couple more seasons.


9.) 03 Dec 2019 15:37:32
Ennis is making $800K on a one year deal.
Gagner is on the last year of a 3 year $3.15M deal. Not sure their situations are the same. And with the retained salary from the Gagner Spooner trade to make the trade even money wise Gagner is basically costing $4M. For 1G 4A in 16 games. While getting a ton of top 6 I’ve time.
I would highly disagree with him having the skill to play a top six role. He’s a good person, good for the locker room, but he’s not a top six player nor does he make a team
Any better what so ever, especially at that price. Next year he can make $900K and be a useful 4th liner to someone. That’s where he belongs.


10.) 03 Dec 2019 19:31:52
I’m assuming you won’t see this but I’m going to say it anyway. Lol I’m not disagreeing with his salary. Again that’s not what this is about. For the second time. I think it’s similar to Ennis because they both were solid skill NHLers earlier in there careers and now at 30 there barely getting contracts. He doesn’t get tons of top 6 minutes? He’s filling in top 6 right now for an injury yes. He’s usually not one of the guys they plug in the top 6 and I think he should be though. And he also barely gets PP time only because the first PP gets pretty much the full 2 minutes.


 

 

20 Nov 2019 11:08:45
Devils: Hall (resignerad)

Oilers: Larsson , Gagner , Pulju + conditional 1st round pick) if oilers make it to second round in playoffs its 1st otherwise its a second

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1.) 20 Nov 2019 17:57:46
Hall will not resign, he's got the Erik Karlsson / Dougthy / Marner itch to get to free agency already. Signing Hall means goodbye to RNH and Edm needs this team player more so than Hall's oft injured pouty downer attitude.

Realistic deal IF Edm even wanted the Hall cancer back would be a 2nd rounder, and they'd have to send 6 mill in Salary back to NJ or balance it out with NJ taking retention. Gagner, Manning +2nd for Hall's balance of year rental with 1M retained would be how it has to be.


2.) 20 Nov 2019 20:59:10
I don’t like this deal because the Oil can’t afford to lose Larsson yet. And I think he makes the chances of Hall resigning a lot better.
But holy west is best you think a 2nd rounder and cap dumps get you a player a year removed from an MVP? Why do you think he’s a cancer? I’d assume you’re totally wrong.


3.) 21 Nov 2019 03:15:20
Hall as a rental is worth a 1st plus a b-prospect and maybe a bottom six roster player. He’s not going to get anything long term with huge potential. If you want a long term player with upside potential, you take the pick. If you want to plug a gap in your lineups, you take the roster player. You want to gamble on a prospect with upside, then you take the prospect.

A bottom six roster player, a b-prospect, and a 1st. Some combination of that will get you Hall. Don’t expect anything more.


 

 

18 Nov 2019 18:33:02
If oilers would trade mcdavid what would a real offer look like?

My suggestions:

Vancouver: Pettersson , Hughes + a first

Colorado: mackinnon , makar

Toronto: Matthews , kapanen + a first

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1.) 18 Nov 2019 19:33:06
Why would any team trade all those pieces for McDavid? You’d be setting yourself back. More so, McDavid isn’t getting MacKinnon AND Makar, nor is he getting Pettersson AND Hughes. Get out of dream land.


2.) 18 Nov 2019 21:51:38
Yah no way Vancouver and Colorado make that trade.


3.) 18 Nov 2019 23:54:58
Mackinon alone is pretty clost to McDavid in value.


4.) 19 Nov 2019 05:01:51
Mcdavid is modern time gretzky no other player comes close.

If mcdavid played on tampa last year instead of stamkos or point he would prob get 150-180 points

Pettersson is a 70-80p player ofc mcdavid would fletch both Pettersson and hughes.


5.) 19 Nov 2019 05:03:31
McDavid could get Quinn Hughes & Pettersson. But i don't think he would get MacKinnon & Makar.

My offer from my own team would probably be Sean Monahan, Juuso Valimaki, Jakob Pelletier & Dustin Wolf. Steep but i'd do it from a Flames perspective. Mcdavid makes everyone around him better. Him and Gaudreaus speed would be a huge oof to the oposing team


6.) 19 Nov 2019 09:09:18
Leafs scream hell yes and run with it. VAN and COL prolly decline.


7.) 19 Nov 2019 09:54:30
You’re crazy if you think he’d score 180 on Tampa.


8.) 19 Nov 2019 13:35:35
You’re crazy if you think Marner will be battling Mcdavid for scoring titles for years to come.


9.) 21 Nov 2019 04:55:37
He is in pace for 150 with oilers?! Last years tampa was one of the best all time teams (before playoffs)


 

 

28 Oct 2019 21:46:21
Oilers: Gagner , Manning , pulju

Ottawa: Bødker , batherson

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08 Oct 2019 13:10:57
Oilers: Russel , Bear + 2nd round pick (maybe + a Ahl player like maximov with potential)

Jets: Ehlers

Jets get 2 dmen that can make the roster , bear have proven that he can play at nhl level and have great potential to be a good offensive RD


Oilers get a Top 6 LW to play with RnH and neal

Swechamp

1.) 08 Oct 2019 13:53:08
Lol. Not close. A cap dump, a meh prospect and a second doesn't get you anywhere near a first line winger.


2.) 08 Oct 2019 14:00:46
I would do Lipon for that though. It gives the Oilers a player that is easily top 6 for them.


3.) 08 Oct 2019 14:04:32
. But you would need to keep Russel.


4.) 08 Oct 2019 15:29:51
Another dumb post trying to rob the Jets.


5.) 08 Oct 2019 15:44:54
how about

nurse, puljijarvi and Bear

for

ehlers, pollman.


6.) 08 Oct 2019 16:02:47
No thanks from Winnipeg. Nurse is going to want a big raise next year and isn't worth giving up Ehlers for.


7.) 08 Oct 2019 16:03:57
With Larson out the Oilers aren’t trading Nurse unless it’s in a deal for an upgrade on D.
Russell would be a top pairing on the Jets right now tho boys 😂😂.


8.) 08 Oct 2019 16:04:59
Nurse > Ehlers & Poolman


9.) 08 Oct 2019 16:13:39
im getting 2 differant stories here

either nurse is greater than ehlers
or
ehlers is greater than nurse

cant have both

so
nurse straight up for ehlers.


10.) 08 Oct 2019 16:18:29
Nurse is a low end second pairing guy. Definitely won't get Ehlers straight up. Puljujarvi holds zero value for the Jets and Bear is meh.


11.) 08 Oct 2019 16:44:26
If Nurse was on the Jets he would be one of the best top pairing guys in the league to Marcus.


12.) 08 Oct 2019 16:50:47
I don't think so yupp. Jets fans rate players objectively. Homers like yourself, see Nurse as a god.


13.) 08 Oct 2019 16:52:04
At least you don't deny Nurse is a low end second pairing defenseman at best.


14.) 08 Oct 2019 17:34:52
is ehlers considered a top line guy to jets fans?

this is where i'm confused

thought this deal was a 2nd line forward for a 2nd pairing D

once they tranfer to their new teams they both become 1st line/ first pairing guys

am i missing something here?


15.) 08 Oct 2019 18:33:14
You might understand this better craigger. Would you trade Nylander for Nurse? No, you wouldn't and we all agree that Ehlers is better than Nylander and also has a better contract. Nurse simply isn't good enough for the Jets to consider moving Ehlers for.


16.) 08 Oct 2019 18:52:33
And Morrisey is a number 1D I’m guessing? I’d say Nurse and Morrisey are pretty comparable.


17.) 08 Oct 2019 19:30:45
Lol. Ebs. Nurse is nowhere near the same quality as Morrissey. Morrissey has played and excels on the top pairing. Nurse can't play top pairing and is best suited to low end 4D duties. Nurse is basically Zach Bogosian without the injury history.


18.) 08 Oct 2019 20:18:04
Lmao. No where do I say he is a god. You’re trying to put words in my mouth to try and push your homer idea. And I bash my team constantly, unlike yourself.
You should just like Trudeau. Lol.
Ehlers isn’t better than Nylander or Nurse. But you're a waste of time to even try having a conversation with.
Hope you have a great day tho little guy.


19.) 08 Oct 2019 20:37:50
Trade talent wise would work if Jones, Legasson or Samkarov were in the mix instead of Bear.

Cap wise, Oilers I don't' think have the cap space to do this unless there was 1M retention by Winnipeg, or Manning was traded instead of Bear.

Both teams are suffering from thin D's right now, so 2 dmen out of Edm, 0 back seems a little unlikely at this time. Russel would really help the Jets thin D for sure and Ehlers would help Edm's forward lines. But trade with Bear favors Winnipeg too heavily and the cap problem exists.


20.) 08 Oct 2019 20:39:05
I bet Nurse averaged more ice time per game and had more points than Morrissey last year.


21.) 08 Oct 2019 20:52:35
Now you're feelings are hurt yupp? You're the one who was trying to pass Nurse off as a top pairing defenseman. Talk about homerism. I agree though you are far too biased to have a good debate with.


22.) 08 Oct 2019 21:13:20
The only reason Nurse had more minutes is because Edmonton had an awful defense and Nurse was slightly better than the other crud they had. Minutes don't make a player top pairing quality. Ability does.


23.) 08 Oct 2019 22:03:08
Nurse has Klefbom to compete with for ice time on the left side. Who does Morrisey have? Maybe he had more minutes because he plays both special teams. A D doesn’t just get lucky and get 40 points. It may have been a good year for him but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him back in the 35 point ish range.

And settle down I’m not saying Nurse is better. Just like Yup didn’t say Nurse is a godly number 1. But to say there not even close shows your homerism. The only thing you can do is put words in other people’s mouths.


24.) 08 Oct 2019 22:41:01
First of Nylander > ehlers everyday

Why do you keep saying Oilers d is bad?
Jets got a bottom 5 d core right now

I mean even Ottawa got better d lineup than jets got against penguins tonight.


25.) 08 Oct 2019 23:06:37
Nurse and morrisey are basically the same guy same age and handed same advanced stats

Only thing is nurse is bigger much bigger

Nurse is also a bit more offensive and hasn't had the rhd that morrisey had to develop beside. Guess this year morrisey will get to play with no help so we will see how he really does. If you don't want to help morrisey with a partner enjoy the watch. your loss. trading offece, which is winnipegs strength, for defence help would be wise but hey whatever

And yes i'd do nylander for nurse last season. however, now leafs don't truely need a dman so i wouldn't do deal now.

Ill ask you this memarcusjoe. if morrisey was on edmonton would you trade ehlers for him?


26.) 09 Oct 2019 05:42:09
Nurse worth way more then ehlers, how is this a conversation? Craziness.


27.) 09 Oct 2019 00:55:33
Nurse is another example of the Oilers mishandling a young player. Due to their traditionally weak defense the Oilers rushed Nurse and expect him to be their #1 d-man before he was ready. He makes way too many mistakes over and over again that a true #1 doesn't do. Also he will expect a large contract next year that he doesn't deserve. Having said that he's the best d-man the Oilers have.


28.) 09 Oct 2019 02:00:57
If Morrissey was on Edmonton, yes I would trade Ehlers for him. Nurse isn't the same quality though. Nurse has terrible hockey sense which keeps him as a #4D, Oilers fans always complain about him and we're only guaranteed of having him for one season.

Morrissey is a top pairing D, has hockey smarts and is all around better than Nurse. So, it's not a good comparison. Especially when you throw in Morrissey's contract compared to Nurse's.

Then when you consider that Ehlers has a 6 year contract at a bargain rate and Nurse has one year left on his contract before asking for a big raise and is also LD, which isn't a long term need. All this makes it makes it pretty easy to turn down for the Jets.

I know panic trades like this one are fun to discuss, but think of it this way. Would Nurse make the Jets more of a Cup contender? No, definitely not. The Jets are in for a rough year this season, so wasting excellent, young assets, signed long term, on a marginal upgrade that won't make or break the season, is terrible asset management. Ehlers will be much more valuable to the Jets long term than one year of Nurse.


29.) 09 Oct 2019 06:51:33
Nurse is another example of the Oilers mishandling a young player. Due to their traditionally weak defense the Oilers rushed Nurse and expect him to be their #1 d-man before he was ready. He makes way too many mistakes over and over again that a true #1 doesn't do. Also he will expect a large contract next year that he doesn't deserve. Having said that he's the best d-man the Oilers have.


30.) 09 Oct 2019 06:53:57
If Morrissey was on Edmonton, yes I would trade Ehlers for him. Nurse isn't the same quality though. Nurse has terrible hockey sense which keeps him as a #4D, Oilers fans always complain about him and we're only guaranteed of having him for one season.

Morrissey is a top pairing D, has hockey smarts and is all around better than Nurse. So, it's not a good comparison. Especially when you throw in Morrissey's contract compared to Nurse's.

Then when you consider that Ehlers has a 6 year contract at a bargain rate and Nurse has one year left on his contract before asking for a big raise and is also LD, which isn't a long term need. All this makes it makes it pretty easy to turn down for the Jets.

I know panic trades like this one are fun to discuss, but think of it this way. Would Nurse make the Jets more of a Cup contender? No, definitely not. The Jets are in for a rough year this season, so wasting excellent, young assets, signed long term, on a marginal upgrade that won't make or break the season, is terrible asset management. Ehlers will be much more valuable to the Jets long term than one year of Nurse.


31.) 09 Oct 2019 06:56:09
Nurse worth way more then ehlers, how is this a conversation? Craziness.


32.) 09 Oct 2019 09:58:18
since he started in the league morrisey has had a top 4 RHD to play with. Buff, trouba or myers take your pick. Every time morrisey hit the ice 1 of these guys where on it with him.

Lets see if morrisey truely is what you all write he is without a partner.

Nurse and morriseys advanced stas are identical and that's with morrisey having someone capable of holding their own every time he went on the ice on the right side. Say bye bye to morrisey looking half descent.


33.) 09 Oct 2019 12:27:24
Nurse signed the same bridge deal as Morrissey so there’s a good chance he signs a similar long term deal. Also he’s an RFA so your not guaranteed him for only a year.
Nurse played all of his junior years and when he was brought in he definitely wasn’t expected to be a number 1. Why do you make this stuff up? Morrissey played a whole 50 more AHL games than Nurse. Not a lot.
And yes Island Jet he makes mistakes, no one said he was a true number 1. Lol.


34.) 09 Oct 2019 16:04:31
Lol. You’re such an idiot Marcus 😂😂.
Kinda make me laugh tho, at you not with you. It’s been pretty sad for a while now my man.


35.) 10 Oct 2019 09:39:15
Marcus just keeps digging his own grave with his comments. People can clearly see you are a complete homer and call others Homer's when you clearly lack knowledge of nhl and only watch your own team and say everyone else is garbage. Nurse would get ehlers+ he's a 2nd line guy at best.


 

 

 

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09 Feb 2019 11:48:07
Why doesn't any team sign Tye felhaber?

I don't watch ohl but he's stats looks good?

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1.) 09 Feb 2019 15:23:26
I thought dallas did.


2.) 09 Feb 2019 15:25:01
Overagers always put up good stats, it’s what they do in the previous draft years that’s telling. He will probably be signed a bit later, I feel undrafted signings take place a bit later than this in the season most times. A quick google has him linked to the Stars.


 

 

01 Jul 2018 18:27:58
JT to Leafs Done deal

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21 May 2018 00:18:02
After seeing Larsson and oel play together oilers must see the value?

Offer klefbom or nurse and 1st pick plus a young forward yamamoto or benson..

May be much to pay but oel and Larsson has chemistry and Will be a top pair D in nhl

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02 Dec 2019 15:26:29
Penguins gave up Kessel for him, why would they take a capdump for him? As a oilers fan i would ofc say yes.

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21 Nov 2019 04:55:37
He is in pace for 150 with oilers?! Last years tampa was one of the best all time teams (before playoffs)

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19 Nov 2019 05:01:51
Mcdavid is modern time gretzky no other player comes close.

If mcdavid played on tampa last year instead of stamkos or point he would prob get 150-180 points

Pettersson is a 70-80p player ofc mcdavid would fletch both Pettersson and hughes.

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02 Nov 2019 19:50:24
Why trade him that low? After this year he will be a ppg player in Finland and value will be higher.

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24 Oct 2019 15:36:02
Its going to take atleast appleton to get pulju.

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