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04 Sep 2018 15:27:20
Calgary trades Rasmus Andersson to Toronto for McElhinney, Leivo and a 2nd round pick. Fills needs for both teams.


1.) 04 Sep 2018 16:09:13
Lol from Calgary.

2.) 04 Sep 2018 17:04:11
Fills calgary's need for ahl players?

3.) 04 Sep 2018 18:14:48
Fills the need of a qualified back up netminder for the oft injured Smith. And Leivo is just as good and if not better than the players currently on the Flames 4th line.

4.) 04 Sep 2018 22:23:56
take out the second and this gets you stone.

add a first if you want rasmus.

5.) 04 Sep 2018 23:40:33
Lol? Wasnt Andersson a 2nd round pick? he's a stud now even though he hasn't really played in the nhl?

6.) 04 Sep 2018 23:32:15
Don’t see it actually filling eithers needs because leafs need a for sure NHL Dman tonpkay good in his own zone. I’m not convinced 100% that’s Andersson . Easy no from Calgary though because he has potential to be a good impact player and the pieces going the other way don’t. Leafs take the deal and run, just don’t think it solves the problem they have right now. They have high potential Dmen in the system.

7.) 04 Sep 2018 23:39:03
And wasnt Andersson a 2nd rounder? So they get a similar pick back plus one of the best back up options from last year plus a decent 3rd or 4th line player. didn't realize he was the second coming of Nik Lidstrom all the sudden.

8.) 04 Sep 2018 23:49:33
Leivo wouldn't crack calgary's line up, who would you take out? Calgary has to many players on one way contracts so they need to ship out a couple roster players, andersson is 2 way so he's not the guy their going to trade.

9.) 05 Sep 2018 04:52:16
If Brower could crack the lineup lievo could.

10.) 05 Sep 2018 16:23:47
Well Brower was bought out so obviously not cracking flames roster, they signed and traded for better players this offseason. Vbb, who would you take out of calgary's lineup that leivo would replace since that other guy couldn't answer the question.

11.) 05 Sep 2018 20:15:30
Well top 9 is pretty set. But projected lines that I see have a furth line of Derek Ryan centring Curtis Lazar and a spot that has been vacated by brouwers buyout. So I’d say there’s a RW spot for him there, and I’d take him over Lazar as well. Unless these websites and I am missing someone, which could be the case, I’d say he cracks flames lineup.

12.) 05 Sep 2018 20:20:38
And saying Brouwer was bought out so that means he couldn’t crack the roster isn’t exactly correct. He couldn’t crack the roster as a $4+mill player is fair to say. If Brouwer was making $2 mill or less he would have a spot on just about any team in the leagues bottom 6. And since Leivo is making just about league minimum, he would have a spot on 90% of the leagues bottom 6 also, unfortunately not the one team that actually has him.

13.) 05 Sep 2018 21:34:15
I knew that and I’d replace the guy who is replacing Brouwer with Lievo.

14.) 06 Sep 2018 03:44:40
Gudreau-monahan-neal Tkachuk-backlund-frolik bennet-lindholm-hathaway czarnick-ryan-lazar/ jankowski. I suppose leivo could beat out Lazar/ jankowski 4th line but think Lazar is better suited for a 4th line guy but doubt he beats out those two and Hathaway, but I could be wrong. Think he's better than lazar but for the role I think you'd want leivo playing style in the top 9.

15.) 06 Sep 2018 17:43:05
Donscherry thinks zetterberg or or Gilmore would be worth 7th round draft picks when about to enter their primes, doesn't matter where you were drafted, matters how you progress. Andersson was a 2nd round pick but maybe by the end a lot of teams will be saying they shoulda taken him top half of the 1st, or maybe never established himself but right now is a pretty good prospect with high potential.

16.) 06 Sep 2018 17:48:13
Hey Shoots, i could of responded but when you make a ridiculous statement like "AHL players", its not really worth a response. McElhinney was one of the best backups in the league last year. Leivo can't make one of the deepest offences in the sport but he succeeded in the AHL and ecery time he was given playing time in Toronto. Like Jim said. I take him over Lazar and whoever would be your 4th line RW. Leivo also has the ability to move up the lineup in case of injury.
But let's see how the Flames do when the inevitable injury happens to Smith.
Also wasnt Andersson a 2nd round choice? I offered that in return plus pieces that help the Flames. If you are going to make an argument, at least make it a reasonable one. Andersson is not the 2nd coming of Lidstrom, he profiles as a 3-6 dman nothing more.

17.) 10 Sep 2018 12:24:34
That trade makes no sense, first of all draft position doesn't mean anything. All that means as a junior player teams thought you had a chance of being a star. So by saying 2nd round player for second player doesn't mean squat. I'm sure any team now would trade a 4th round pick for Gaudreau. Calgary doesn't need a older back up goalie they need to figure out if any they have will be Smith replacement. You guys might thing leivo is a good trade to us, if Calgary puts Andersson on the trade block the return will be a lot higher than that

18.) 10 Sep 2018 12:25:11
You guys that keep saying 2nd round player for 2nd player that means absolutely nothing. Draft is where teams think how good you are at that time. Ask any team now I bet all day long they trade a 4th rounder for Gaudreau I would even bet most would trade their first round. Yes Calgary needs a back up but not a 35 year old guy we need one of the young ones to step up and take that role.Leivo might be a decent prospect but if Calgary puts Andersson on the market the return would be a lot higher than that. Even if he only become 2nd pairing Dman the value is a lot higher than a bottom 6 forward.

19.) 12 Sep 2018 09:21:22
So what exactly has Andersson proven in the NHL to get such a high return? He is projected at a 2nd pairing dman at best. And by the way, Gaudreau IS A PROVEN nhler, Andersson is not so your comparison sucks. When Andersson proves himself in the Nhl then you cab argue.

20.) 18 Sep 2018 01:51:49
LMAO my comparison sucks? You are saying Andersson was a 2nd so here's a old ass goalie a player you don't need and a 2nd round draft pick. When Gaudreau was drafted no one though his potential was this high, drafting is luck unless you get the rare time like Crosby, OV or McDavid. So unless you have a crystal ball to determine Andersson potential no GM in their right mind would take the trade you offered. A 2nd line dman is worth a hell of a lot more than a 35 year old back up a bottom 6 forward and a 2nd round pick and if Toronto finishes where everyone thinks they can you might as well call that a 3rd round pick.

21.) 18 Sep 2018 01:56:28
And I never said the value of Andersson I said he's worth more as a potential 2nd line dman. With saying that how do you think the players your offering are worth anything? 35 year old back up goalie might get you a year or 2, Leivo had what 22 points in 55 games? That doesn't mean he's proven and a 2nd round pick that could just mean you get another AHL player.



21 Jun 2018 22:38:14
To Toronto - Dougie Hamilton

To Calgary - William Nylander, 25th overall and Bracco.


1.) 22 Jun 2018 01:37:20
That’s a lot for Dougie if flames don’t take that jeez.

2.) 22 Jun 2018 01:38:47
Would want a more reliable dman then Hamilton for Nylander. Would rather add a lot and go after Eklblad.

3.) 22 Jun 2018 03:43:17
Nylander alone would be enough, if not more than Hamilton.



05 May 2018 03:49:53
Nylander, Liljegren, Bracco or Timashov and a 1st

For Doughty who immediately gets signed to an extension.

My personal belief is Nylander is real good but not quite what Marner or Matthews are. LA gets a lot of youth for someone who may not resign at the end of next year.

This is conditional on Doughty signing the extention


1.) 05 May 2018 05:19:29
And what would you want the signing to be? Term and $.

2.) 05 May 2018 05:44:09
I’d rather have Nylander over Marner imo.

3.) 05 May 2018 06:59:41
McJesus I've read that there's some in Toronto that think Marner is very close to Mathews in value. They share the same agent apperently and I've read their camp thinks Marner is within $2M from Mathews. Like is Mathews gets $11M then Marner is at least $9M.

I'm curious what this original poster thinks Doughty should be signed for term and $ from Toronto tho.

4.) 05 May 2018 11:55:55
I’d take Marner over Nylander. He looks real good for a 4th liner.

5.) 05 May 2018 13:09:26
Yah I think Marner is very close to Mathews value wise but Nylander is much less valuable.

6.) 05 May 2018 16:32:17
Damn that’s crazy if they are that close in value and especially if you think 2 mil away in potentially salary. I just prefer Nylander because of that wicked shot but pretty close imo for value between the two of them. Just if I had to pick one I’d stick with Nylander.

7.) 05 May 2018 16:40:58
I’ve watched every game that the 3 of them Have played, like most leaf fans on here probably have. I see Matthews far above the others. Used to value marner and Nylander very closely but I think marner has shown he’s a lot more versatile and has the ability to create plays from the wing like usually you expect from a centre and is one of the most competitive players going, backchecks and plays pretty good defensively. Nylander can protect the puck really well, obviously has a wicked release and can beat unscreened goalies with a wrist shot from 40+ feet which not many guys do anymore, but can get lost in big games and needs to be reminded once in a while to compete harder. The puck follows him round and he will get 10 chances some games, but if it’s not coming easy one night, he doesn’t seem as willing to work to change things as marner. I value Mitch higher for sure.

8.) 05 May 2018 19:13:37
Marner > Nylander.

9.) 05 May 2018 22:36:55
I would take doughty at 7 or 8 years and 9-10 million. I would also front load the contract so the last couple years he wouldn't be as hard to move if needed.

10.) 05 May 2018 22:40:33
I didn't say I think they are $2M away from each other. I said o read that their camp and the organization might think that.

11.) 05 May 2018 22:41:14
Just saying that because I believe they all value Marner more than Nylander at this point. Fans including.
Which was my original point to this post.

12.) 05 May 2018 23:45:36
are you saying 3 of those pieces and a 1st or one of those and a first?

13.) 06 May 2018 15:43:43
One of those and a 1st doesn't get a signed Drew Doughty. Its 3 and the 1st.



20 Jan 2018 22:48:48
To Winnipeg - JVR and Carrick/Polak

To Toronto - Myers

Why? For Winnipeg. Getting JVR would allow them to put Perrault where he seems to play better on the 3rd line and they can put JVR with Little and Ehlers who can play both wings.

For Toronto. Put Myers with Gardiner on 2nd pairing. Have Dermott and Polak or Carrick on the 3rd pairing until Zaitsev is back.


1.) 21 Jan 2018 00:37:18
No from Winnipeg.

2.) 21 Jan 2018 01:18:38
No chance the Jets give up Myers for a rental that would play on the 3rd or 4th line.

3.) 21 Jan 2018 02:41:26
Winnipeg won't be giving up Myers for a rental.

4.) 21 Jan 2018 16:31:25
Jets wouldn’t do it but JVR would not be a 3rd or 4th liner lol.

5.) 21 Jan 2018 17:14:06
Thats funny because 2 months ago people were wanting Myers traded for a bag of pucks. And JVR would be playing 2nd line.

6.) 21 Jan 2018 18:29:36
JVR has been playing 3rd line a lot this year tho. Third line now is JVR-Bozak-Brown.
With Schiffle out and wheeler over to center jvr would be in the top six in Winnipeg, yes.
Tough decision when Schiffle comes back as their top six has been just fine. Wheeler Schiffle Conner liane little Ehlers. They all have great chemistry I'm not sure I would bump any of them for jvr.



17 Nov 2017 11:06:28
To Toronto OEL and Strome

To Arizona Marner, Dermott, Kapanen/Leivo and a 1st in 2018


1.) 17 Nov 2017 11:38:05
Arizona laughs.

2.) 17 Nov 2017 11:54:39
arizona laughs? toronto laughs that's almost 4 first rounders maybe that's why your last.

3.) 17 Nov 2017 12:19:17
"Almost" 4 first rounders lol. good one john.

4.) 17 Nov 2017 15:38:02
First rounders are first round picks before the pick is made, and maybe if it’s a guy that was taken in the first round in either of the last 2 drafts. I’ll give you marner and the first as “first rounders” I don’t consider a guy taken wth a late first 4 drafts ago, a guy taken 2nd round 3 drafts ago, or a guy taken 3rd round 6 drafts ago 1st rounders haha.

5.) 17 Nov 2017 21:56:45
you so called hockey people get your facts straight marner 1st round kapenen 1st round 2018 1st round dermontt 31 st pick one shy of a 1st round.

6.) 18 Nov 2017 00:18:15
Kapanen at pick 22 is "almost" a second rounder then by that theory.

7.) 18 Nov 2017 00:21:35
And dermott was actually pick #34.

8.) 18 Nov 2017 03:16:14
what are you sens fans it's the same.




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07 Sep 2017 12:20:23
Galchenyuk, Pacioretty and Juulson to NYI for Tavares and Lee.


1.) 09 Sep 2017 14:05:13
if i'm montreal i don't give that up unless he signs an extention south of 10m. and i don't see tavares signing for less than toews and kane.



07 Jul 2017 14:55:01
Interested to know what kind of rhd the leafs could get with a package of JVR, Kapanen/Bracco/Leivo and the 2018 1st rounder. What opinions are out there?


1.) 07 Jul 2017 15:56:56
I don't think u can lump Leivo in w Bracco and Kappanen. Their values are higher than his.

2.) 07 Jul 2017 16:51:31
None that are top 2 very few that are young top4. Probably a 30 + top 4 maybee.

3.) 07 Jul 2017 17:21:50
I think leivo will be better then both of them scene him play a lot in years past reminds me of a mark stone underrated type of player.

4.) 08 Jul 2017 01:32:28
Burns or Hedman of course Maybe take the pick out and could get Doughty.

5.) 08 Jul 2017 15:23:56
Would prefer to trade Brown over Kappy.

6.) 08 Jul 2017 15:24:01
JVR, Connor Brown, Travis Dermotte and 2018 1st for Trouba.

JVR+ for Honka and Lethonen

Connor Brown and 2018 protected 1st for Tanev

2nd Rd and Lievo for Mike Green.

7.) 08 Jul 2017 19:24:42
Why get Burns or Hedman when you can get Adam Larsson?

8.) 08 Jul 2017 19:27:47
Why get Doughty when you could get Adam Larsson though?

9.) 09 Jul 2017 01:01:54
Brown is already better then kappy. Kappy won't be that good nhl yes but not a sure top 6.

10.) 12 Jul 2017 23:54:12
You can't get Adam Larsson tho. Nice try.



26 Apr 2017 18:17:47
Saying it again as I think it's the best option for the leafs.....

JVR and Carrick for Manson and Bieksa plus pick improvement going the leafs way. Ducks get to keep Vatanen, Fowler and Lindholm while Toronto has a top 6 defense of

Reilly Manson
Gardiner Zaitsev
Dermott/Hunwick/Polak Bieksa

Makes leafs tougher on the back end and gives the ducks a top 6 forward they can protect.


1.) 26 Apr 2017 19:51:31
I think if you can convince a team to take Bieksa, Anahiem would have to sweeten the pot a little more, as your doing them a HUGE favor. Not really sure what though.

2.) 26 Apr 2017 21:34:21
I think you're right. Without trading any big assets this would be the way to go for both teams.

3.) 26 Apr 2017 22:34:52
Doesn't Bieksa have a NMC where he would have some control where he wants to go?
I think At this point in his career he would say no to a trade to the Leafs to be honest.
And Leafs could just sign a FA D man for their third pairing or give the ice time to a younger guy.

4.) 26 Apr 2017 23:29:30
Ya, he does have a NMC, so he would have to waive that. He may for Toronto Yup. its becoming more attractive to play there. But who knows.
I also agree, they could just go oit and sign a UFA.

5.) 27 Apr 2017 01:19:41
So Toronto protects Reilly, Manson, Gardiner and Bieksa. Who do they leave unprotected?



26 Feb 2017 15:57:29
As a leaf fan I wouldn't mind seeing Nash and Klein traded to Toronto. It's about a 10.5 mil cap hit with both contracts expiring after next year. Could you imagine Nash on Matthews left wing? The Rangers could use the cap space and I would imagine be very happy getting the cap space. With this, maybe the leafs could pick up some young assets such as picks or prospects. Would also open the leafs up to trading polar and or hunwick for more picks. What offers could you see having these players traded?


1.) 26 Feb 2017 16:44:52
well to be taking on all that cap leafs better be receiving some other pieces. I don't think Lou is nice enough to anybody favours.

2.) 26 Feb 2017 17:00:18
Maybe in the offseason.




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26 Apr 2019 02:51:02
Yes they can match. And he will be getting more than that.




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21 Apr 2019 14:06:02
With Zaitsevs play in the playoffs, the Leafs can keep him. He has played very well.




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18 Mar 2019 20:55:45
Boom boom, just like many you overated Hamilton. I would rather Pesce. Better all round game.




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07 Mar 2019 16:00:30
no he is not better than Reilly. On Toronto Hamilton is top 2 solely because of having no good RHD. Sorry my opinion is different than yours and I am not basing my opinion solely on this year. I have watched him since coming into the league and I am not impressed at all. Just my opinion though as I have said all along. Maybe he gets traded to the Habs and you could find out for yourself.




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06 Mar 2019 12:49:55
Boom boom, he is not a top 2 dman. I know my opinion is unpopular but he is far from solid defensively and offensively is as streaky as it gets. Same as Faulk, overated.





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