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16 Feb 2020 03:02:31
To Columbus

Josh Anderson and David Savard

To Toronto

Kasperi Kapanen and Tyson Barrie

Each team trading a pending UFA.


1.) 16 Feb 2020 04:23:16
I thought Savard has another year.

2.) 16 Feb 2020 13:10:34
Two players having awful years for two having decent ones, doesn’t seem fair to me.

3.) 16 Feb 2020 14:36:40
Anderson is a UFA. Who are the two players having awful years? If you mean Savard, I haven't seen or heard anything about playing bad. Anderson has been hurt, is due to return soon and is not an offensive guy. He never has bad years. He's just not an offensive guy.



15 Jul 2019 23:33:17
Toronto sends Marner and Liljegren and a pick to Anaheim for Manson, Rakell and Kase.

Toronto's defense would be Reilly Manson
Muzzin Barrie
Dermott Ceci


1.) 15 Jul 2019 23:50:38
I’d be really disappointed if this is what Toronto got i'd rather 4 1sts I love Rakels contract but he’s a huge down grade and Manson is a solid number 3 but he’s nothing special. I’d consider if it was Lindholm instead of Manson.

2.) 15 Jul 2019 23:51:21
Probably the best Marner proposal yet tho.

3.) 16 Jul 2019 00:24:46
Although Rakell is a downgrade he still is pretty good. Manson is the tough physical presence they need on defense and I think Kase could be a good 2nd liner one day.

4.) 16 Jul 2019 00:26:21
The 4 1sts won't help Toronto with there current lineup. By the time those players are ready to play if at all, Toronto's team will be very different. I would rather players than picks.

5.) 16 Jul 2019 00:48:28
Manson is a deffensman they need once Muzzin is gone the leafs will have no one physical on the backend what if the leafs added a 2nd and Anaheim added a 1st?



06 Jul 2019 20:23:18
How about a deal of RFAs?

Marner and a prospect like Bracco to Philly for Provorov and Konecny?

Philly is already pretty solid on defense and Marner gives them two solid lines.

Leafs have a defense of

Reilly Barrie
Provorov Muzzin
Dermott Ceci.


1.) 06 Jul 2019 20:26:23
That's not bad actually.

2.) 06 Jul 2019 21:46:58
Oof if Provonov was a RHD I’d probably take that I believe leafs decline.

3.) 07 Jul 2019 02:21:29

4.) 07 Jul 2019 08:03:41
The Leafs certainly don't decline this, VB, c'mon. A #1 D is moooore than enough to make up for the difference between Konecny and Marner.

5.) 07 Jul 2019 11:23:45
I think that's ok, maybe philly adds a draft pick.

6.) 07 Jul 2019 14:51:41
Konecny has minimal value compared to a top 15 player in the NHL. Would you do this trade for Kucherov?

7.) 07 Jul 2019 16:32:46
In no world does Provorov have more value than Marner. I get the position importance but Marner is a top winger in the league. Provorov is a good young dman who is not a number 1 yet or may never be.

8.) 07 Jul 2019 17:24:04
Mariner has more value then provorov but konecky has way more value then bracco on top of that the leafs could probably sign both of those players for the price of marner.

9.) 07 Jul 2019 17:47:44
Vb it’s not Konecny for Marner one for one so your Kucherov comment is immediately disregarded. You’re ignoring the fact that there’s a franchise defenceman going back the other way.

10.) 07 Jul 2019 22:13:36
Franchise dman is a huge overstatement he’d be a number 2/ 3 on almost all playoff teams.

11.) 08 Jul 2019 10:21:49
He's still very young tho. Provorov is easily seen as a future #1 if he isn't one yet.

Also, Kucherov is worth more than Marner, esp considering he's signed at like 2M less than what Marner going to get and that's for 8 more years. Not even mentioning he had 128 pts last year.

12.) 08 Jul 2019 12:59:38
You don’t think Marner can score a 128 points next season?

13.) 08 Jul 2019 17:58:39
Provorov and Konecny aren’t signed either. I can see the two combined making more than Marner. Can Leafs afford this?

14.) 09 Jul 2019 08:28:49
VB, I said this earlier: talk to me about this once he's done it.
He hasn't even cracked a 100 yet, so maybe don't talk about 130, eh?



04 Sep 2018 15:27:20
Calgary trades Rasmus Andersson to Toronto for McElhinney, Leivo and a 2nd round pick. Fills needs for both teams.


1.) 04 Sep 2018 16:09:13
Lol from Calgary.

2.) 04 Sep 2018 17:04:11
Fills calgary's need for ahl players?

3.) 04 Sep 2018 18:14:48
Fills the need of a qualified back up netminder for the oft injured Smith. And Leivo is just as good and if not better than the players currently on the Flames 4th line.

4.) 04 Sep 2018 22:23:56
take out the second and this gets you stone.

add a first if you want rasmus.

5.) 04 Sep 2018 23:40:33
Lol? Wasnt Andersson a 2nd round pick? he's a stud now even though he hasn't really played in the nhl?

6.) 04 Sep 2018 23:32:15
Don’t see it actually filling eithers needs because leafs need a for sure NHL Dman tonpkay good in his own zone. I’m not convinced 100% that’s Andersson . Easy no from Calgary though because he has potential to be a good impact player and the pieces going the other way don’t. Leafs take the deal and run, just don’t think it solves the problem they have right now. They have high potential Dmen in the system.

7.) 04 Sep 2018 23:39:03
And wasnt Andersson a 2nd rounder? So they get a similar pick back plus one of the best back up options from last year plus a decent 3rd or 4th line player. didn't realize he was the second coming of Nik Lidstrom all the sudden.

8.) 04 Sep 2018 23:49:33
Leivo wouldn't crack calgary's line up, who would you take out? Calgary has to many players on one way contracts so they need to ship out a couple roster players, andersson is 2 way so he's not the guy their going to trade.

9.) 05 Sep 2018 04:52:16
If Brower could crack the lineup lievo could.

10.) 05 Sep 2018 16:23:47
Well Brower was bought out so obviously not cracking flames roster, they signed and traded for better players this offseason. Vbb, who would you take out of calgary's lineup that leivo would replace since that other guy couldn't answer the question.

11.) 05 Sep 2018 20:15:30
Well top 9 is pretty set. But projected lines that I see have a furth line of Derek Ryan centring Curtis Lazar and a spot that has been vacated by brouwers buyout. So I’d say there’s a RW spot for him there, and I’d take him over Lazar as well. Unless these websites and I am missing someone, which could be the case, I’d say he cracks flames lineup.

12.) 05 Sep 2018 20:20:38
And saying Brouwer was bought out so that means he couldn’t crack the roster isn’t exactly correct. He couldn’t crack the roster as a $4+mill player is fair to say. If Brouwer was making $2 mill or less he would have a spot on just about any team in the leagues bottom 6. And since Leivo is making just about league minimum, he would have a spot on 90% of the leagues bottom 6 also, unfortunately not the one team that actually has him.

13.) 05 Sep 2018 21:34:15
I knew that and I’d replace the guy who is replacing Brouwer with Lievo.

14.) 06 Sep 2018 03:44:40
Gudreau-monahan-neal Tkachuk-backlund-frolik bennet-lindholm-hathaway czarnick-ryan-lazar/ jankowski. I suppose leivo could beat out Lazar/ jankowski 4th line but think Lazar is better suited for a 4th line guy but doubt he beats out those two and Hathaway, but I could be wrong. Think he's better than lazar but for the role I think you'd want leivo playing style in the top 9.

15.) 06 Sep 2018 17:43:05
Donscherry thinks zetterberg or or Gilmore would be worth 7th round draft picks when about to enter their primes, doesn't matter where you were drafted, matters how you progress. Andersson was a 2nd round pick but maybe by the end a lot of teams will be saying they shoulda taken him top half of the 1st, or maybe never established himself but right now is a pretty good prospect with high potential.

16.) 06 Sep 2018 17:48:13
Hey Shoots, i could of responded but when you make a ridiculous statement like "AHL players", its not really worth a response. McElhinney was one of the best backups in the league last year. Leivo can't make one of the deepest offences in the sport but he succeeded in the AHL and ecery time he was given playing time in Toronto. Like Jim said. I take him over Lazar and whoever would be your 4th line RW. Leivo also has the ability to move up the lineup in case of injury.
But let's see how the Flames do when the inevitable injury happens to Smith.
Also wasnt Andersson a 2nd round choice? I offered that in return plus pieces that help the Flames. If you are going to make an argument, at least make it a reasonable one. Andersson is not the 2nd coming of Lidstrom, he profiles as a 3-6 dman nothing more.

17.) 10 Sep 2018 12:24:34
That trade makes no sense, first of all draft position doesn't mean anything. All that means as a junior player teams thought you had a chance of being a star. So by saying 2nd round player for second player doesn't mean squat. I'm sure any team now would trade a 4th round pick for Gaudreau. Calgary doesn't need a older back up goalie they need to figure out if any they have will be Smith replacement. You guys might thing leivo is a good trade to us, if Calgary puts Andersson on the trade block the return will be a lot higher than that

18.) 10 Sep 2018 12:25:11
You guys that keep saying 2nd round player for 2nd player that means absolutely nothing. Draft is where teams think how good you are at that time. Ask any team now I bet all day long they trade a 4th rounder for Gaudreau I would even bet most would trade their first round. Yes Calgary needs a back up but not a 35 year old guy we need one of the young ones to step up and take that role.Leivo might be a decent prospect but if Calgary puts Andersson on the market the return would be a lot higher than that. Even if he only become 2nd pairing Dman the value is a lot higher than a bottom 6 forward.

19.) 12 Sep 2018 09:21:22
So what exactly has Andersson proven in the NHL to get such a high return? He is projected at a 2nd pairing dman at best. And by the way, Gaudreau IS A PROVEN nhler, Andersson is not so your comparison sucks. When Andersson proves himself in the Nhl then you cab argue.

20.) 18 Sep 2018 01:51:49
LMAO my comparison sucks? You are saying Andersson was a 2nd so here's a old ass goalie a player you don't need and a 2nd round draft pick. When Gaudreau was drafted no one though his potential was this high, drafting is luck unless you get the rare time like Crosby, OV or McDavid. So unless you have a crystal ball to determine Andersson potential no GM in their right mind would take the trade you offered. A 2nd line dman is worth a hell of a lot more than a 35 year old back up a bottom 6 forward and a 2nd round pick and if Toronto finishes where everyone thinks they can you might as well call that a 3rd round pick.

21.) 18 Sep 2018 01:56:28
And I never said the value of Andersson I said he's worth more as a potential 2nd line dman. With saying that how do you think the players your offering are worth anything? 35 year old back up goalie might get you a year or 2, Leivo had what 22 points in 55 games? That doesn't mean he's proven and a 2nd round pick that could just mean you get another AHL player.



21 Jun 2018 22:38:14
To Toronto - Dougie Hamilton

To Calgary - William Nylander, 25th overall and Bracco.


1.) 22 Jun 2018 01:37:20
That’s a lot for Dougie if flames don’t take that jeez.

2.) 22 Jun 2018 01:38:47
Would want a more reliable dman then Hamilton for Nylander. Would rather add a lot and go after Eklblad.

3.) 22 Jun 2018 03:43:17
Nylander alone would be enough, if not more than Hamilton.




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07 Sep 2017 12:20:23
Galchenyuk, Pacioretty and Juulson to NYI for Tavares and Lee.


1.) 09 Sep 2017 14:05:13
if i'm montreal i don't give that up unless he signs an extention south of 10m. and i don't see tavares signing for less than toews and kane.



07 Jul 2017 14:55:01
Interested to know what kind of rhd the leafs could get with a package of JVR, Kapanen/Bracco/Leivo and the 2018 1st rounder. What opinions are out there?


1.) 07 Jul 2017 15:56:56
I don't think u can lump Leivo in w Bracco and Kappanen. Their values are higher than his.

2.) 07 Jul 2017 16:51:31
None that are top 2 very few that are young top4. Probably a 30 + top 4 maybee.

3.) 07 Jul 2017 17:21:50
I think leivo will be better then both of them scene him play a lot in years past reminds me of a mark stone underrated type of player.

4.) 08 Jul 2017 01:32:28
Burns or Hedman of course Maybe take the pick out and could get Doughty.

5.) 08 Jul 2017 15:23:56
Would prefer to trade Brown over Kappy.

6.) 08 Jul 2017 15:24:01
JVR, Connor Brown, Travis Dermotte and 2018 1st for Trouba.

JVR+ for Honka and Lethonen

Connor Brown and 2018 protected 1st for Tanev

2nd Rd and Lievo for Mike Green.

7.) 08 Jul 2017 19:24:42
Why get Burns or Hedman when you can get Adam Larsson?

8.) 08 Jul 2017 19:27:47
Why get Doughty when you could get Adam Larsson though?

9.) 09 Jul 2017 01:01:54
Brown is already better then kappy. Kappy won't be that good nhl yes but not a sure top 6.

10.) 12 Jul 2017 23:54:12
You can't get Adam Larsson tho. Nice try.



26 Apr 2017 18:17:47
Saying it again as I think it's the best option for the leafs.....

JVR and Carrick for Manson and Bieksa plus pick improvement going the leafs way. Ducks get to keep Vatanen, Fowler and Lindholm while Toronto has a top 6 defense of

Reilly Manson
Gardiner Zaitsev
Dermott/Hunwick/Polak Bieksa

Makes leafs tougher on the back end and gives the ducks a top 6 forward they can protect.


1.) 26 Apr 2017 19:51:31
I think if you can convince a team to take Bieksa, Anahiem would have to sweeten the pot a little more, as your doing them a HUGE favor. Not really sure what though.

2.) 26 Apr 2017 21:34:21
I think you're right. Without trading any big assets this would be the way to go for both teams.

3.) 26 Apr 2017 22:34:52
Doesn't Bieksa have a NMC where he would have some control where he wants to go?
I think At this point in his career he would say no to a trade to the Leafs to be honest.
And Leafs could just sign a FA D man for their third pairing or give the ice time to a younger guy.

4.) 26 Apr 2017 23:29:30
Ya, he does have a NMC, so he would have to waive that. He may for Toronto Yup. its becoming more attractive to play there. But who knows.
I also agree, they could just go oit and sign a UFA.

5.) 27 Apr 2017 01:19:41
So Toronto protects Reilly, Manson, Gardiner and Bieksa. Who do they leave unprotected?



26 Feb 2017 15:57:29
As a leaf fan I wouldn't mind seeing Nash and Klein traded to Toronto. It's about a 10.5 mil cap hit with both contracts expiring after next year. Could you imagine Nash on Matthews left wing? The Rangers could use the cap space and I would imagine be very happy getting the cap space. With this, maybe the leafs could pick up some young assets such as picks or prospects. Would also open the leafs up to trading polar and or hunwick for more picks. What offers could you see having these players traded?


1.) 26 Feb 2017 16:44:52
well to be taking on all that cap leafs better be receiving some other pieces. I don't think Lou is nice enough to anybody favours.

2.) 26 Feb 2017 17:00:18
Maybe in the offseason.




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16 Feb 2020 14:36:40
Anderson is a UFA. Who are the two players having awful years? If you mean Savard, I haven't seen or heard anything about playing bad. Anderson has been hurt, is due to return soon and is not an offensive guy. He never has bad years. He's just not an offensive guy.




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05 Feb 2020 19:11:20
No from Toronto. Rather Kapanen be used to obtain a defensive dman. Better asset management.




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02 Feb 2020 19:02:34
Nylander for Domi. good one.




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29 Jan 2020 18:00:50
What about Manson and Kase for Kapanen and Johnsson? Add picks where they see fit.





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